Episode 15 Holiday of My Lifetime with Len Goodman


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'Childhood holidays? Ho-ho, the anticipation seemed endless.

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'The holiday itself? Well, it was over too quickly.

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'So in this series I'm going to be reliving those wonderful times

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'with some much-loved famous faces.'

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THEY SCREAM

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'Every day, I'll be arranging a few surprises

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'to transport them back in time.'

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Oh, look!

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-SHE LAUGHS

-It's just as I remember!

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'We'll relive the fun...'

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HE SQUEALS WITH LAUGHTER

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'..the games...'

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-BOTH: Yes!

-We got 'em!

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'..and the food of years gone by...'

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Yummy!

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Welcome to 1959!

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-Total happiness.

-Yes, perfect.

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'..to find out how those holidays around the UK helped shape

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'the people we know so well today.'

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Bruce Forsyth.

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BRUCE FORSYTH IMPRESSION Marvellous, Len, you're still my favourite.

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'So buckle up for Holiday Of My Lifetime!'

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You know, Len, I'm quite enjoying being on me holidays with you.

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'On today's journey through time, I'm in luscious Kent,

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'picking up our mystery holiday-maker

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'in a 1920s steam train.

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'And, no, I'm not turning into a giant,

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'this is a world famous little locomotive!'

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HORN HONKS

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Today I'm on my way to pick up a celebrity that's not only

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a comedian but a lover of the great outdoors.

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This is him as a young 'un.

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He was born in 1941 in Rochdale, Lancashire.

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Now, this likeable lad became famous in the '70s

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in one of the best comedy groups.

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Now, does that ring a bell?

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Another clue, and this is a "Goodie" -

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he's a twitcher.

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Yes, a birdwatcher.

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You got him? You must have it by now!

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We're on our way to meet the loveable Lancashire lad,

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Bill Oddie.

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Bill! I'm heading your way!

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'73 years ago, Bill was born to parents Lilian and Harry.

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'And though he was born in Rochdale, he grew up in Quinton, Birmingham.

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'When his mum became ill and was hospitalised indefinitely,

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'Bill was raised by his dad, an accountant,

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'and his grandmother.

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'He went on to study at Cambridge University

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'and it was starring in drama club performances with the likes of

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'John Cleese that whetted his appetite to later appear on screen.

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'In the '70s Bill created and acted in hit TV comedy The Goodies,

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'and soared to stardom.

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'A father and grandfather, Bill's now best known for turning

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'his lifelong passion for birds into a successful broadcasting career,

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'and has presented long running series like Bill Oddie Goes Wild.'

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I have now attracted an audience of about 20 cows.

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'But today I'm choo-chooing into the station to find out how

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'he used to spend his free time on holiday as a child.'

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My god!

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Well, it's always as well to have a second string to your bow, isn't it?

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-Exactly!

-Yeah.

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# When you grow too old to dance

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# You can drive a train, boom-boom! #

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Well, I tell you, was you expecting this?

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Erm, no, I wasn't really, although I knew it was here.

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'The Romney, Hythe and Dymchurch railway

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'is the Smallest Public Railway in the World,

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'and has been transporting tourists on trips

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'along its 13 miles of Kent track for 87 years!'

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So, Bill, where are we going?

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Well, I think you may have heard of it.

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-We're going to Dungeness.

-Ah, right.

-Yeah?

-Yeah.

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-The actual Dungeness.

-You've got the power station down there.

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Ah, that's the thing, you have now,

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but not when I first came here.

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Right, well, we'll try and get rid of that for you

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so it looks authentic.

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-And what year is it?

-It was 1957.

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-I was 13.

-Ah, I was an older boy!

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I was 16.

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-Right.

-Yeah, I was 16,

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and it was the first holiday,

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my first trip away with just a couple of other friends from school.

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Well, let's go and get on one of the carriages

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and we'll have a little natter.

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-Yeah, and who's driving, then?

-Not me.

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-First class?

-Always first class for you, Bill.

-Always first class, yeah.

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'First class for a class act,

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'and this dinky little number will get us to Dungeness in no time!'

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'On the south-east coast of England,

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'Dungeness is the most southerly part of Kent,

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'and lies between Dover and Hastings,

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'on the tip of the Romney Marsh peninsular.

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'A 12 square mile spot, its 6,000-year-old stretch of shore

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'is the largest in the whole of Europe.

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'It's always been populated by fishing families who still

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'form the backbone of local life.

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'But the landscape was changed forever with the controversial

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'power station built in 1965.

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'And though it may appear to be super industrial here, it's home to

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'some of the most diverse wildlife in the whole of the UK.

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'No wonder it's popular with conservationist Bill!

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'Today I'm taking him back to re-live those exciting days

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'when he travelled here as a teen with his mates...'

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It was an adventure. We had no idea what it was really going to be like.

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'..enjoying the sights, smells and noises

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'in a wildlife lover's paradise!'

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If we went over there now

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we'd be drowned out by...

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HE CROAKS

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Really?

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'And we'll see just how those days in Dungeness shaped Britain's

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'best-known birdwatcher.'

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This isn't just a matter of saying, "Oh, isn't this cute?"

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It's a little bit of life in your hands.

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'Before any holiday truly begins, first you must set out on a journey.

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'We all remember that eager anticipation of the golden moments

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'that lie in wait at our magical destination.

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'Today, we're squeezing into carriages 66% smaller

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'than the average sized train! Whoo-hoo!'

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-11...

-Oh, gor blimey! I'm stuck!

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BILL LAUGHS

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-Right, there you go.

-You in?

-Yeah.

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'And we're off!'

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-So, Bill, tell me, why Dungeness?

-Why Dungeness?

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Cos I've never, ever been on a normal holiday.

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My mum was in hospital right the way through the period I was growing up.

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My dad really didn't get about very much.

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Like so many schoolboys of my age, my era, 1940s, you know,

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I used to collect birds' eggs.

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Three of us set out, 1957, at the age of 15 or 16,

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to go to the nearest bird observatory,

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and that was at Dungeness, and you'll get, sort of,

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training in bird watching and bird ringing and all that kind of thing.

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There were one or two specialities.

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I remember stone curlew is one of them that we hoped we would see.

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And did you see one or...?

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We did eventually, it took a bit of finding cos, well, you can hear 'em.

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BILL WHISTLES

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It's as though there's a bird in this carriage.

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-BILL LAUGHS

-That was so realistic!

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'In 1957, Bill and his birding buddies caught two standard sized

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'trains to get from Birmingham to Dungeness.'

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You must have been so excited, the three of you, off on an adventure!

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It was an adventure, we had no idea what it was really going to be like

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to be away from families and all that.

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But mainly we didn't know what it would look like,

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and I remember we'd been told where to get off, er, to coin a phrase.

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There's nobody there, there's no station, it's just a platform.

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You get off, walk towards the sea,

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you'll see a lighthouse in the distance, you know.

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-Well, it's kind of like a treasure hunt, isn't it, that?

-Yeah.

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-It really is.

-Are you excited to come back here, or...?

-Yeah.

-Yeah!

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'In 1957, the world was a very different place.

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'Britain was experiencing a post-war boom, and Prime Minister

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'Harold "Supermac" Macmillan's slogan was,

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"You've never had it so good."

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'One of the top selling tunes of the year was That'll Be The Day

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'by Buddy Holly & The Crickets.

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Whoa-r-r, That'll Be The Day!

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'The BBC's Panorama broadcast an April Fools Day report

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'claiming to show spaghetti being harvested in Switzerland!

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'A fresh-faced Patrick Moore was the first person to pilot

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'a non-fiction astronomy series.'

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It's coming out, yes - there is the Moon.

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And not long after The Sky at Night's television debut,

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Russia launched the Sputnik satellite -

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the first man-made object ever to leave the Earth's atmosphere,

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followed by the first space pioneer - a dog.

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A Russian husky called Laika...

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To begin Bill's adventure back on Dungeness soil,

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I've brought him to where his holiday of a lifetime began.

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Well, Bill, is this how you sort of remember it to be?

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Absolutely and completely, yeah.

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This is flashback time, serious flashback time.

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Let's face it, there's plenty of parts of Britain,

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let alone parts of the world,

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where you have a big flat area like this.

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It would have a park on it, a theme park,

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or it would have been a new town.

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And obviously, this is well protected.

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Other than the two power stations,

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Dungeness has barely changed in 57 years.

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And to preserve the abundance of wildlife,

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it's been declared a National Nature Reserve,

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Special Protection Area,

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Special Area of Conservation

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AND a site of scientific interest!

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Phew...that's a mouthful.

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That power station arriving and being constructed,

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would that have affected the birdlife here?

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Well, it wasn't as bad as we expected, cos to them,

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those great big concrete...monstrosities

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are actually cliffs.

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But the big one...

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This...this was some kind of water outflow

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and about 100 yards offshore, it sort of bobbles up

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and it became known as The Patch,

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because it was obviously attracting fish

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and the fish were attracting sea birds.

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People sit there with their telescopes,

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watch birds coming in to The Patch

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and many, many really good, interesting, rare sea birds

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have been seen.

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Talking of telescopes,

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do you go anywhere without your binoculars with you?

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No. You can tell a non-birdwatcher -

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and I hope this doesn't apply to you, mate.

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First thing you do when you buy a pair of decent binoculars,

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throw the case away - you don't need it, all right?

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-Yeah. You just...ever ready.

-Have 'em ready, exactly.

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I left my binoculars at home. And...I wish I hadn't, Bill.

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Mainly because my first surprise

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is a visit to the top of this lighthouse,

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which has the most spectacular vista...

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Lovely! I've always wanted to do that.

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I want to find out how Bill's childhood passion for nature

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would influence him throughout his life.

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Lighthouses have been keeping the ships

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navigating the dangerously narrow Dover Strait safe since the 1600s.

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This beauty was built in 1904,

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but as soon as the power station came along,

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it didn't take a bright spark to realise

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ships couldn't see it anymore, so a new one was built.

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Because this old one was in use during Bill's trip in the '50s,

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he couldn't go up it.

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But now he can, so manager Jill has agreed

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to give us the keys - ho-ho! - which came into the family's hands

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as a bit of a surprise!

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My father came by this lighthouse in 1984.

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We were going to an auction to buy a car

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and we ended up with a lighthouse.

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-He bought it in an auction?

-Yes.

-How much did he pay for it?

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He never told me.

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He said, "Good daughters don't ask those questions."

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Well, thank you so much for allowing us to visit.

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We're going to start our way up.

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Bill and I had better brace ourselves -

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made with 3 million bricks, it's 150 feet high

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and there's no lift!

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"Dungeness Lighthouse - any person entering these premises

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"does so at their own risk."

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-Yeah.

-Lead on.

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The 169 steps to the top are NOT for the faint-hearted -

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or this couple o' creaky fellows.

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How's the knee then, Len?

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Well, the knee is holding up, thank you.

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-We've got two good knees between us, I think.

-I think so.

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BILL LAUGHS

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Well, this is my first - I'm a lighthouse virgin.

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I've been up a few in my time.

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You never forget the first time.

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I can't wait for Bill to see the extent

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of his holiday turf from 1957 -

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if we can actually get out to the viewing platform.

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-Are we going to go out in this...?

-Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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-What, through here?

-Yes.

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-There I am - come on, Bill.

-I don't know what to do, either.

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LEN LAUGHS

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-Look at you!

-Now what do we do?

-Take my arm.

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-We'll do it that way.

-Leg first.

-Argh! That's it, that's it...

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-Hey!

-Excellent.

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-Cor, this is...

-Fantastic, isn't it?

-Look at it.

-That's fantastic.

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-That is a view.

-See the wind farm right on the horizon there?

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That's sort of where Dungeness starts or ends,

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whichever way you look at it

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and it's been built up over the years to come further and further out.

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Way up here, you can see where the sands meet the water -

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and what a wonderful but harsh landscape

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for a teenage boy's holiday!

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You must have been a determined young lad to have

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got off at that station

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and marched your way across that...you know?

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-I mean...we didn't quite know what we were coming to!

-Yeah.

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As far as we knew, it might be a lovely beach resort

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with lots of palm trees and lots of birds.

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But...hey, if you're going to be determined and reckless,

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-I think 16's probably the age to do it.

-I agree.

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Well, I think it's time we went back in before my wig blows off.

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But bird obsessed Bill's got other ideas...

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I bet there's a few birds been seen from up here.

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You can imagine a bird of prey circling around, couldn't you?

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And it's a bit breezy today...

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TAPPING

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What? Who?

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Ah!

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# The phantom of the lighthouse is calling me... #

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BILL CHUCKLES

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Characterised by its unusually mixed terrain,

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inland is a mass of marshland.

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You look at all those bushes, you know -

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at ground level, you can't see that.

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No - I don't think they were there when I first came.

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This time of year, if we went over there now,

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we'd be drowned out by...

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HE IMITATES CROAKING

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-Really?

-Yeah.

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I don't know my mother-in-law was going to be over there.

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BILL WHEEZES WITH LAUGHTER

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The marsh frogs, which have come over from France, somehow -

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I don't think they swam The Channel - they're all over the place here.

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And the noise - it's a bit later in the spring, when they spawn.

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So I'm pretty sure they'll be going at it so loud.

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I think it's time to make the descent.

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THEY IMITATE CROAKING

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OK...

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'Bill's passion for all things animal

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'is rubbing off on me already!'

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-That was good.

-It was, wasn't it?

-That was interesting.

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-The knee's feeling it, though.

-A little bit, yeah.

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THEY LAUGH

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Nothing an ice pack won't sort out, though.

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Dungeness may be largely unspoilt,

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but it has subtly changed over the years.

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And what historian Owen Leyshon

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doesn't know about the lay of this land isn't worth knowing!

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Dungeness used to be called Nanny Goat Island

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and this was before the power station was built.

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It was an isolated community and so, to get their milk,

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each dwelling, each house, had a goat

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which wandered around or got tethered for milking purposes.

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Today, we've lost the goats and the sheep as well,

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and so the bushes have taken off in the 1950s and '60s

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and we have quite lush, wooded areas on Dungeness

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which wasn't the case back in the '30s, '40s and early '50s.

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600,000 people visit Dungeness each year.

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Before its decommissioning in 2006, the first-built Dungeness A

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was the oldest operating nuclear power station in the world.

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The second, Dungeness B, is capable of supplying energy

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to more than 1.5 million homes.

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The public can take a free tour of the station

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to learn all about electricity production.

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With hundreds of miles of trails to choose from,

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the Romney Marsh Countryside Project, set up in 1996,

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encourages people to enjoy the countryside

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with guided walks and cycle rides.

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Camber Sands is a five-mile stretch of glorious golden beach

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and is crying out for a holiday-maker's bucket and spade!

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Just a stone's throw from here is Rye's Old Pier Amusement Arcade.

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Old pennies, that stopped being circulated in 1971,

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can be bought from the Heritage Centre

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so you can play fully working machines

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dating back to the 1900s - what fun!

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Part of the magic of any childhood holiday

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is the excitement of staying somewhere new -

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the sights, sounds and smells

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of those hotels, motels and campsites.

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When Bill went to Dungeness in 1957 to learn about all things birdie,

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he stayed in these cottages that were built in the 1800s.

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Once the royal naval signal station,

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they became the Bird Observatory Headquarters in 1952.

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There's the name - "Dungeness Bird Observatory."

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That still excites me, just to see those words.

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Bryan Murray's been a trustee of the Observatory for years.

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-Bryan, is it?

-Bryan Murray, yeah.

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-Hi, Bryan.

-How do you do?

-I'm OK, thanks.

-Bryan - Len Goodman.

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Bryan's going to show Bill where him and his pals

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bunked for their week's trip back in '57.

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Back then, Bill paid four shillings to stay here,

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but there would have been no hot water or electricity.

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Eh...luxury! Look at that.

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We didn't have white or magnolia...

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And forget en-suite bedrooms -

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Bill and his pals slept in a pretty primitive dormitory.

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Well, it wasn't like this. I mean, it so wasn't.

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As I remember, I don't think there were bunk beds.

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I don't think there were beds at all, literally.

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It was just, sort of, a sleeping bag on the floor.

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I bet you three young lads, away from home,

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all kipping down together - you had some laughs, did you?

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There is a fun element.

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It's like a sleepover, in a way, something like this

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and it's a little bit rough and ready - it was then.

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Let's push on.

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THEY LAUGH

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Despite its name, the observatory wasn't just about bird watching,

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but a place of monitoring and conservation,

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all under the watchful eye of one man.

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The warden, who is long gone now, was a very famous man called Bert.

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What he did do was wake us up - this was early September -

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at something like 3.30 or 4.00 every morning.

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He would wake us up, say, "Come on, everybody out, everybody out",

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and it was our job to go round a number of these traps

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and drive the birds into the trap.

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It sounds rough, but it isn't - the bird would be unharmed.

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But then, if we caught something at the end,

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he would be measuring the bird, weighing the bird,

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ringing the bird, releasing the bird.

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And it was a great way of actually learning stuff, you know?

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At 15 or 16, you didn't know

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about how to even identify a lot of the birds.

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Do people, if they happen to see a nest or whatever,

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do they jealously guard it and don't tell others?

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Or are they quite open about it and say, "You've got to come down here,

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"there's a nesting pair of...lesser spotted whatnots"?

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Less spotted whatnots? You see, there speaks a dude.

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Everything's lesser spotted.

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A dude being a well-spoken, posh, well-meaning birdwatcher

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who's probably got the gear, but doesn't really know that much

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and would never, ever talk about a lesser spotted whatnot, would they?

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I apologise.

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Well, that's me told!

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I may not know my birds,

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but while Bill was studying his chaffinches,

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I was studying me cha-cha-chas!

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So, we know where Bill used to stay in 1957, but decades ago,

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accommodation for holiday-makers was like hens' teeth

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here in Dungeness.

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In the 1920s, railway workers bought old rolling stock for ten quid

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and converted them into holiday homes.

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Today, they can sell for a fortune

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but in the '30s, families rented them for £3 a week.

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We came here and stayed at this bungalow,

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which is a converted railway carriage

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and it's still here.

0:22:190:22:20

I can remember coming on the train, I'd have been about three.

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We said, "Can we go to the beach, Mum?"

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The beaches were absolutely divine, and it still is.

0:22:250:22:28

We stayed there until, when it was time for a meal,

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my father would open the bedroom window and whistle.

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And we'd say, "That's Dad", and we'd come flying home for our dinner

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and it was all very exciting.

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When I look back, it was bleak, but we never thought it as bleak.

0:22:420:22:48

We just thought it was beautiful, because actually, then,

0:22:480:22:51

the sun shone all day long, we never had bad weather,

0:22:510:22:55

that I can remember.

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But that's us - when you're children,

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you never remember the bad.

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You only remember the good.

0:23:000:23:02

Bill may be best known for his encyclopaedic knowledge

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of all things feathery,

0:23:070:23:08

but he made animals appealing to the masses

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thanks to his comedy background.

0:23:120:23:14

Literally a once-in-a-lifetime moment for me

0:23:140:23:16

and for this dragonfly.

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# There will be bluebirds over

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# The white cliffs of Dover... #

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Oh, incidentally, by the way, in case you've ever wondered,

0:23:250:23:28

there won't.

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I want to know how he got into entertainment,

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and as he's completely at home in the comfort of a twitcher's hide,

0:23:320:23:36

'it's the perfect place to find out how he flourished.'

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Let me ask you, Bill - you've come back here,

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as you know, from when you were 15, 16.

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Did you have any idea how your life was going to go?

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Not in any way. At that stage, I certainly hadn't a clue.

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I was quite lucky in having a dad

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that...had ambitions for me, actually.

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He lived vicariously through me, to a point, and as regards a job,

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when I went to university

0:24:050:24:06

and just before I was about to leave university, I still had no idea.

0:24:060:24:11

Talking of university, you met John Cleese there.

0:24:110:24:16

-What was he like?

-Not just John -

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Eric Idle was there, Graeme Garden, Graham Chapman,

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Tim Brooke-Taylor was in the same college.

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So, yeah, a whole bunch of people

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who happened to get together at that stage.

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How did you then get into showbusiness?

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I think the word has to be "accident".

0:24:320:24:35

The show from Cambridge, 1963,

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we went to London, we went to America,

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and when I got back to London in 1965,

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it was like...some moment.

0:24:450:24:47

I remember thinking, "I think this is what I do, now."

0:24:470:24:51

How did The Goodies come about?

0:24:510:24:53

We wanted to do something very visual,

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based on cartoon values and silent movies,

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that sort of thing.

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You just came along, really, and just...

0:25:010:25:03

But we were not unknown, you see.

0:25:030:25:06

That's what people perhaps don't realise.

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We had worked on other shows.

0:25:080:25:10

Bill has many strings to his bow - in the '60s and '70s,

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he released numerous singles,

0:25:140:25:16

naturally tinged with his fabulous humour.

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-# We're gonna knit

-Baby, gonna knit all day

0:25:200:25:22

-# We're gonna knit

-Gonna knit my blues away

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# Ah, knitting's better, better, better... #

0:25:260:25:29

I heard a rumour - that's all, a little rumour -

0:25:290:25:33

that...two of your LPs were produced by George Martin.

0:25:330:25:39

Yeah, that's true.

0:25:390:25:40

None other than The Beatles' music producer!

0:25:400:25:44

This is memory lane.

0:25:440:25:46

It was like going round full circle -

0:25:460:25:49

you started off in '57,

0:25:490:25:51

coming down here and looking at birds

0:25:510:25:53

and then you sort of drifted back into that.

0:25:530:25:55

Well, it never stopped, you see.

0:25:550:25:58

The secret to this piece of fortuitous timing,

0:25:580:26:01

em...was that I had never stopped being a birdwatcher.

0:26:010:26:05

The Goodies ended about 1980 - I think it was TV-am,

0:26:050:26:10

they were in the habit of ringing me up and saying,

0:26:100:26:14

"We'd like to do a little wildlife piece", you know.

0:26:140:26:18

And it really went from there.

0:26:180:26:19

I suppose what I felt was, "Oh, wait a minute,

0:26:190:26:22

"they're accepting me as being a wildlife person

0:26:220:26:25

"as well as just a gimmicky comic who happens to know something about it."

0:26:250:26:29

One of Bill's fondest memories from 1957

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was being sent out by the observatory warden,

0:26:330:26:36

to help pop small rings round birds' legs

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to monitor the population.

0:26:390:26:41

-So, Bill...

-Yeah.

0:26:420:26:43

What exactly is this?

0:26:430:26:45

LAUGHING: That's a good question!

0:26:450:26:47

Um...it's called a Heligoland trap.

0:26:470:26:51

Heligoland is a little island which I think is owned by Germany,

0:26:510:26:54

had a bird observatory on it, years and years ago,

0:26:540:26:58

and somebody invented this in order to catch the birds to ring them, OK?

0:26:580:27:03

In my day, schoolboys would move forward into those bushes

0:27:030:27:07

and just chivvy the bird up this funnel,

0:27:070:27:11

which is getting smaller and smaller and smaller,

0:27:110:27:13

till it gets to the end bit, and chivvy it into the box,

0:27:130:27:17

take the box out.

0:27:170:27:18

-Let's imagine - '57...

-Yeah.

-You and I got down there...

-Yeah.

0:27:180:27:23

Shall we go and do a bit of chivvying?

0:27:230:27:25

Yeah, we'll do a bit of chivvying. We'll go and drive the trap round.

0:27:250:27:28

That's the noise - psh-psh-psh-psh!

0:27:280:27:31

Psh! Psh-psh-psh-psh...

0:27:310:27:33

-Psh-psh-psh-psh. Psh-psh-psh-psh.

-Psh!

0:27:330:27:37

-Psh-psh-psh-psh.

-Ooh...oh, oh...

0:27:370:27:39

-Psh-psh-psh-psh.

-Psh!

0:27:390:27:41

You sure I'm doing this right?

0:27:410:27:42

Psh-psh-psh!

0:27:420:27:44

'Well, no birds are showing up today,

0:27:440:27:46

'so I think you'd better use your imagination.'

0:27:460:27:49

-Bird flies in there, and then...

-Through the door.

0:27:490:27:53

Yeah, that's good. You're getting the idea.

0:27:530:27:56

-I've got the knack of this, now.

-I think so.

0:27:560:27:58

-I put my hand in there.

-There you go. That's good.

0:27:580:28:02

-Like that? Ooh...

-To the manor born.

0:28:020:28:06

-Ring it?

-Yeah. Then, eventually...

0:28:060:28:09

It was as if it was here.

0:28:100:28:13

That moment...you can imagine it, especially if you're just up,

0:28:130:28:18

you haven't been before.

0:28:180:28:19

It's really exciting and just now...

0:28:190:28:21

You never know what's going to come out.

0:28:210:28:23

Sometimes you don't know what's going to come out, exactly.

0:28:230:28:25

Bill and I may not have had a close encounter

0:28:270:28:29

with any tweeters today, but every year in Dungeness,

0:28:290:28:33

200 different species fly in and around these glorious shores.

0:28:330:28:38

The Royal Society for the Protection of Birds

0:28:400:28:43

have been on the go here since 1906.

0:28:430:28:47

The man-made lakes created back in the '50s

0:28:470:28:50

attract many winged wonders, like the great crested grebe.

0:28:500:28:54

Down the coast at Rye Bay,

0:28:560:28:58

they enjoy Scallop Week every February -

0:28:580:29:01

a festival celebrating seafood dishes.

0:29:010:29:05

Foodies come to indulge in the cookery schools

0:29:050:29:08

and tasting events on offer.

0:29:080:29:10

Delicious.

0:29:100:29:11

Dating back to 1623,

0:29:110:29:14

The Pilot Inn has always been popular with the locals.

0:29:140:29:18

Centuries on, it's a modernised family-run pub,

0:29:180:29:22

renowned for serving some of the finest fish and chips in England.

0:29:220:29:26

Back in '57, the birds Bill and his buddies saw

0:29:290:29:31

with would be noted each day back at HQ,

0:29:310:29:34

and there's a special treat for Bill -

0:29:340:29:36

Bryan still has his logbook!

0:29:360:29:39

Oh, WEO - that's me, yes.

0:29:390:29:42

"Red-necked phalarope, one."

0:29:420:29:44

-Oh...

-What we found here, Bill, is your actual entry

0:29:440:29:49

from September '57.

0:29:490:29:51

BILL CHUCKLES

0:29:510:29:52

And despite my tender years, I could write reasonably legibly

0:29:520:29:56

and use some extraordinarily presumptuous, big words.

0:29:560:30:01

Look at me...

0:30:010:30:02

BILL LAUGHS

0:30:020:30:04

"During the afternoon one party visited the Midrips whilst another

0:30:040:30:08

"proved their skill at hitting tin cans with stones on the beach.

0:30:080:30:12

"And seeing remarkably few birds at the same time.

0:30:120:30:15

"The day was tinged with melancholy and regret.

0:30:150:30:19

"Some exceptionally appetising meals

0:30:190:30:21

"were cooked in the evening..." That's nice.

0:30:210:30:23

"..and the company retired fervently praying for a premature rush

0:30:230:30:26

"in the next morning, before their time expired."

0:30:260:30:30

That is so flippin' pretentious! Tells a story, doesn't it?

0:30:310:30:35

You look back through these things.

0:30:350:30:37

Having read that, it was obvious you were going to be a comedy writer.

0:30:370:30:41

I think I already was, having read that! Either that or a complete prat.

0:30:410:30:46

No holiday experience is complete without sampling the local food.

0:30:520:30:56

Those new tastes and textures, so different to home,

0:30:570:31:01

transform our palate for ever.

0:31:010:31:03

Unless, that is, you're Bill Oddie!

0:31:030:31:06

When he came here in his teens, he couldn't splash out

0:31:060:31:09

on a freshly caught fillet of fish costing a whopping 20 pence!

0:31:090:31:13

Baked beans back then were 5p for a large tin

0:31:130:31:17

and not surprisingly,

0:31:170:31:19

they were Bill's - and the housewives' - favourite!

0:31:190:31:22

# Heinz 57, Heinz 57

0:31:220:31:26

# You'll have meals to plan each day, you and Heinz can make them gay

0:31:260:31:31

# Get together right away

0:31:310:31:33

# With Heinz 57. #

0:31:330:31:35

For Bill and his pals, beans on toast was the diet of kings

0:31:350:31:38

after a long day of learning at the observatory.

0:31:380:31:41

Don't worry about the Hairy Bikers, this is

0:31:410:31:44

you and I doing beans on toast.

0:31:440:31:47

I put you in charge of the beans...

0:31:470:31:48

-Yes.

-..and I'll put myself in charge of the toast.

-Yes, OK.

0:31:480:31:53

It's not going to make a series, you know that.

0:31:530:31:56

-BOTH:

-# Every little bean should be heard as well as seen

0:31:560:32:00

# And every piece of toast should...

0:32:000:32:03

# Please you the most

0:32:030:32:06

-# So let's... #

-Who did the cooking, Bill? Was it yourself?

0:32:060:32:09

I don't remember anybody cooking, and I should imagine we had gas,

0:32:090:32:12

although even that might have been a bit too modern.

0:32:120:32:17

We probably just found a couple bits of driftwood and rubbed them

0:32:170:32:20

together till we had a spark.

0:32:200:32:24

-Or we ate them cold.

-Here we are. Ooh, lovely.

0:32:240:32:28

Yum-yum! 'Simple but hearty grub.

0:32:280:32:31

'I mean, the bird fanciers staying here

0:32:310:32:33

'weren't likely to rustle up duck a l'orange.'

0:32:330:32:36

Well, I know that your staple diet back in '57 was beans,

0:32:360:32:42

-but now, what's your favourite?

-I'm not a foodie, at all.

0:32:420:32:45

The ambience of a place and the friendliness,

0:32:450:32:49

-that is what matters to me.

-My taste is very basic. I'm egg and chips.

0:32:490:32:54

And you must be a ham, egg and chips man?

0:32:540:32:56

No, I was brought up that way, which is probably why I'm not now.

0:32:560:33:01

My dad did all the cooking.

0:33:010:33:03

Sadly Bill's mother was in a psychiatric hospital for many years,

0:33:030:33:07

so Bill was brought up by his dad and then his granny.

0:33:070:33:10

Single parenting was tough in the forties and fifties,

0:33:100:33:14

funds would have been tight,

0:33:140:33:16

but Bill's doting dad did his best for his only son.

0:33:160:33:19

When I had to admit to myself I was interested in the birds,

0:33:190:33:24

I asked my dad for a pair of binoculars

0:33:240:33:27

for my 10th, 11 birthday, something like that, got a little bird book

0:33:270:33:31

and that was it.

0:33:310:33:33

Once a bird-watcher, always a bird-watcher.

0:33:330:33:35

It's not just rare birds that can be glimpsed here,

0:33:390:33:42

it's also a fine place for fishing.

0:33:420:33:45

To become a member of a sports angling club

0:33:450:33:48

costs about ten quid a year -

0:33:480:33:50

or you can sea fish for free.

0:33:500:33:53

With its deep fast water, it's world famous as a hot spot for cod!

0:33:530:33:58

Ooh, I love cod!

0:33:580:34:00

The late English film director Derek Jarman

0:34:000:34:03

made a famous postmodern garden

0:34:030:34:05

on the shingle shore here, which can be admired from the road.

0:34:050:34:09

And during the war, large concrete structures called sound mirrors

0:34:100:34:14

were designed as an early warning system detecting enemy aircraft.

0:34:140:34:19

Three different designs of this cunning invention can be seen

0:34:190:34:23

at Greatstone, just outside Dungeness.

0:34:230:34:25

Despite its wild appearance,

0:34:270:34:29

Dungeness really gets under the skin of many who come here.

0:34:290:34:33

But there have been times

0:34:330:34:34

when only a chosen few would be allowed onto its hallowed turf,

0:34:340:34:38

as long-term resident Dilys remembers.

0:34:380:34:41

When my father brought me the first time he said,

0:34:410:34:45

"I'll take you to the end of the world and you'll never go back."

0:34:450:34:49

"Well, what are we doing living here?"

0:34:490:34:51

But I love it.

0:34:510:34:52

Outside people originally were not allowed to come here to live.

0:34:520:34:58

My mother-in-law lived here, and she came in 1914.

0:34:580:35:05

I came here to live in 1946,

0:35:050:35:09

but during the war no-one was allowed to come here to stay.

0:35:090:35:12

Because the soldiers were here, it was all mined.

0:35:120:35:17

Being a stone's throw from France, during the Second World War,

0:35:170:35:21

PLUTO - that's "pipeline under the ocean" for you and me -

0:35:210:35:26

was in Dungeness.

0:35:260:35:27

It pumped much needed fuel for the D-Day landings in Normandy.

0:35:270:35:32

The destruction caused by the post-war clear up is

0:35:320:35:37

almost impossible to imagine more than 60 years later.

0:35:370:35:39

Here on the RSPB reserve, the artificial lakes,

0:35:390:35:43

the landscape just feels a bit lusher.

0:35:430:35:44

We're a little further away from the sea,

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feels a bit more of a jungle, but in the comfort of the hides

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and the visitor centre you can get to see a wide range of birds.

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Back in '57, Bill wasn't as hands-on with the birds on Dungeness

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as he would have liked, so I've organised a real "tweet"

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and am taking him deep into the woods

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to meet Martin Randall from the RSPB.

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Having you here must be like royalty turning up.

0:36:100:36:14

Must be like the Queen coming in.

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-Absolutely.

-Me?

-Yes, you!

-Like the Queen?

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You are the queen of bird-watchers. You are.

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You are beloved by these men, they all aspire to become you.

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'Many species are on the decline, so the RSPB have 60 nest boxes

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'to encourage breeding, and in this one are two baby tree sparrows.'

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When I was a kid, just near where I lived in Birmingham,

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there was a flock of a couple hundred tree sparrows,

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all around the country, just in the fields.

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'To help track the population,

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'Richard will be ringing the babies with their own unique number.'

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-Ooh, little baby.

-There we are, little baby tree sparrow.

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They've got a lovely chestnut cap, and this baby,

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it's not quite got its chestnut hue yet.

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And also they've got a little black spot on the cheek.

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But on the adult they've got a beautiful pure white cheek

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with a little black spot on it.

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I've been entranced by Bill's enthusiasm for birds,

0:37:260:37:29

so I'm loving learning more about all this.

0:37:290:37:32

I am, I'm becoming a fan!

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How old is that little birdie?

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-This bird is now...about ten days old, I think.

-That old?

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'Don't be shocked by the pliers,

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'popping this metal ring on is completely painless.'

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And where's Mum now, she's shot off?

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She'll be out looking for food, along with Dad.

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So what happens if they come back and they've all gone?

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There's a stuffer in the hole so they can't get in.

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So they come back and be a little surprised and fly off again,

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probably eat the bit of food they've brought back,

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but then they'll come back again and the stuff will be gone.

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Once the birds are hatched and doing pretty well in the nest,

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it's amazing what can happen and they DON'T get spooked about it.

0:38:140:38:19

-It's very nice, though.

-I know.

0:38:190:38:21

All snuggled.

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One thing we're doing with the adults here

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at RSPB Dungeness is colouring them.

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So that we can see them in the field and identify them with binoculars.

0:38:310:38:34

So we can try and get a handle on how many we've got.

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Would you like to hold one?

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You little beauty. Very sweet, aren't they? Bit petite.

0:38:410:38:47

-I love a petite bird.

-You do, don't you?

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I think I'm getting more and more spiritual as the years go by,

0:38:490:38:52

cos this isn't just a matter of saying, "Isn't this cute?"

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or, "Wow, it's a tree sparrow", it's a little bit of life in your hands.

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-Oh, thank you very much.

-Thank you.

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-That's always a privilege, thank you so much.

-Yeah.

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Lovely, lovely thing to behold.

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Yeah, well, I remember when I first held a bird, was...

0:39:120:39:17

Might have been here.

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I remember that being a really important moment,

0:39:180:39:22

a really important moment, and it's just mind-blowing, it's beautiful.

0:39:220:39:27

Beautiful, beautiful.

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If it wasn't for places like this and people like this,

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I dread to think what would happen to the bird population.

0:39:330:39:38

So, well done, the pair of you.

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Seeing Bill up close and personal with his feathered friends

0:39:400:39:44

shows exactly why he's Britain's best-loved bird expert.

0:39:440:39:48

-There he is.

-Since his early days in the comedy nest,

0:39:480:39:52

his talent knows no bounds,

0:39:520:39:54

and he's still a popular broadcaster and writer.

0:39:540:39:57

Oh, long may it continue! Go on, Bill!

0:39:570:40:00

But sadly, today's Oddie odyssey is over.

0:40:020:40:05

I'm going to treasure the adventure

0:40:050:40:08

I've had with this larger than life national treasure...

0:40:080:40:11

I'm stuck. HE LAUGHS

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..as we hurtled at speed to a bird lover's paradise.

0:40:140:40:18

HE WHISTLES

0:40:180:40:20

Re-living the memories of Bill's first holiday with his pals.

0:40:200:40:24

Well, it wasn't like this. It so wasn't.

0:40:240:40:27

We've had song...

0:40:270:40:29

# Every little bean should he heard as well as seen... #

0:40:290:40:34

..a lot of laughter...

0:40:340:40:35

LEN CHUCKLES

0:40:350:40:36

Look at you. Come on.

0:40:360:40:38

HE MAKES BIRD NOISES

0:40:380:40:40

Really? I didn't know my mother-in-law

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was going to be over there.

0:40:430:40:45

..and as you'd expect, there's one thing that

0:40:450:40:47

really gets Bill's heart aflutter.

0:40:470:40:50

It's mind-blowing, it's beautiful. Beautiful, beautiful.

0:40:500:40:54

It's been wonderful to see just how Dungeness made him

0:40:540:40:58

the witty and warm wildlife enthusiast we all know and love.

0:40:580:41:02

But I can't let Bill leave without a little memento.

0:41:020:41:06

Well, Bill, I've got a couple of things here for you. Oh, yes.

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Firstly, a field guide to the birds of Britain and Europe

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from the fifties, when you would have been coming down here.

0:41:140:41:19

Yes, absolutely, this was the book which revolutionised

0:41:190:41:22

bird-watching for everybody, this is Roger Tory Peterson,

0:41:220:41:26

actually an American, and he developed

0:41:260:41:28

this new type of field guide.

0:41:280:41:30

You can imagine it was, "Whoo!", the Bible, it really was.

0:41:300:41:34

Hold on to your knickers, because also, here is a scrapbook,

0:41:340:41:40

"Holiday of my Lifetime."

0:41:400:41:42

This little book is filled with memories from Bill's time

0:41:420:41:46

back in distinctive Dungeness.

0:41:460:41:49

His holiday here undoubtedly made him

0:41:500:41:52

more interested in nature than he already was.

0:41:520:41:56

So I've got him one last surprise.

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I revel in nostalgia, and every time I look at this, I shall think of you.

0:41:590:42:04

Oh, thank you very much.

0:42:040:42:05

But I've got to tell you one thing - I am never, ever doing Strictly.

0:42:050:42:10

-Bill, it's been an absolute pleasure and a joy.

-It certainly has.

0:42:130:42:18

But it's not just Bill who's been whisked down holiday memory lane.

0:42:180:42:22

-Shall we take the beach?

-I think so.

0:42:220:42:24

-Here we go.

-We're a couple of swells.

0:42:240:42:26

Over the last few weeks there have been some ups...

0:42:260:42:30

some downs...

0:42:300:42:32

-This is quite worrying.

-I'm here to protect you.

-You are here.

0:42:320:42:37

..and even more downs.

0:42:370:42:38

-No!

-BOTH: Aghhhhh!

0:42:380:42:40

We've had good clean fun...

0:42:410:42:43

No, don't do that! Don't do it! Sit down, you're rocking the boat.

0:42:430:42:48

..and even a bit of dirty dancing.

0:42:500:42:53

# Dee dee dee da da, baba ba ba ba... #

0:42:530:42:56

You are a natural.

0:42:560:42:59

But the memories will last another lifetime.

0:42:590:43:02

-Wahey!

-Dave, you're getting a ten from Len - fantastic.

0:43:060:43:11

That's the first one I've ever had.

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