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Childhood holidays. We all love them, don't we? Fun in the sun,

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sand castles, swimming in the sea.

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Can't beat 'em.

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So in this series I'm going to be reliving those wonderful times

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with some much-loved famous faces...

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Everyone a winner. Come on, hook a duck.

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..and some of the most surprising guests have the most

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fascinating holidays.

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THEY LAUGH

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-Here she comes.

-It's a tug-of-war!

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Hey!

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We'll relive the fun...

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WHISTLE BLOWS

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..the games...

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and the food of years gone by...

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That is a little taste of childhood right there.

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..to find out how those holidays around the UK helped shape

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the people we know so well today.

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I'm giving you a standing ovation.

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So buckle up for Holiday Of My Lifetime.

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Can you come on all my holidays?

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Oh-ho! I'm excited today.

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I'm meeting an old friend

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who's been having breakfast with the nation for years.

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She was born in Canterbury in Kent in 1961.

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What a cutie!

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She began her career on radio before bouncing onto our screens

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as a news presenter.

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And she had so much fun working with my old mate Eamonn Holmes on GMTV

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where she worked for 15 years.

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Aw! She always started our day with a smile.

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And I met her when she was on Strictly.

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Now, she didn't win but I tell you what,

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she did some memorable performances.

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Oh-ho! The thought of them haunts me now.

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From Panorama to Watchdog to Loose Women,

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I tell you, this girl's one tough cookie.

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Oh, and she's a smart one too.

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She's everybody's breakfast buddy.

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Oh-ho! It's only Fiona Phillips.

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And I'm on my way to pick her up in this fabulous Ford Anglia estate

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just like the one her dad used to drive.

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I bet she was a handful in the back, bouncing about.

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Fiona was born to Phil and Amy Phillips in Kent

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on New Year's Day in 1961.

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The family later moved to Southampton where she grew up

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alongside her brothers.

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Fiona's career began as a local news reporter but was soon catapulted

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into the nation's hearts as the bright-eyed presenter on GMTV,

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where she stayed for over a decade.

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Since then, she's been a regular face on Loose Women, the BBC

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and shone brightly on the Strictly dance floor.

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Along with her numerous other TV appearances, she's a newspaper

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columnist, radio presenter and active charity ambassador.

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And she's a mum too. I don't know how she fits it all in.

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Today I'm taking her back to a memorable summer holiday

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of her childhood and I've even got the car to match.

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-CAR HORN TOOTS

-Gosh. It's a little old Anglia!

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-Fiona.

-Len!

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I can't believe you fitted in there. We must've been smaller in the '70s.

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-What do you think of the wheels?

-I love them.

-Good to see you.

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-So good to see you too.

-Look at it.

-That takes me back.

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-My dad always used to have Anglias as company cars.

-Oh, right.

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-So this was the car?

-I can't believe... That was the car.

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We thought it was the grandest car ever. Look at it.

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It looks as though it's smiling at the front too. It's lovely.

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So where were you going off to?

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We were going off to the Norfolk Broads.

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-Ooh, I've never been.

-Well now's your chance, isn't it?

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-Yes.

-Hopefully.

-What a bit of luck. And what's the year?

-1975.

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I know it well. '75? Muhammad Ali, the Thrilla in Manila.

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Rod Stewart. # Sailing. #

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And we're going to go on your holidays. Come on!

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Good, good, good. I can't wait.

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To the east of Norwich

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and the west of Great Yarmouth

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the Norfolk Broads straddle the

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counties of Norfolk and Suffolk.

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'Set amongst beautiful marshland fields and tangled woodlands,

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'it's home to 125 miles of waterways...

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'..and a quarter of Britain's rarest species.

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'But it's not all wildlife.

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'7 million visitors holiday here every year

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'so jump aboard as I set sail with Fiona Phillips

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'on a trip down memory lane to 1975.

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'With some fun little puppet pals...'

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I'm covered in glue.

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'..and poodle perms...'

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-Dun-dun!

-Ha-ha-ha!

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-Oh, Brian.

-Hey!

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-Calm it down.

-Take it easy, Brian.

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'..as we enjoy a peaceful cruise...'

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-There's something very graceful about it.

-Yeah, leisurely.

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I'm liking it.

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'..through the beautiful Norfolk Broads.'

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But before any holiday begins you must first get there.

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for Fiona, that meant a long car journey with Mum, Dad

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and her two brothers.

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So was coming down here to the Norfolk Broads,

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was that a typical holiday for you?

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No, no, no. This was like...

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It was like a foreign trip coming to the Norfolk Broads

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cos my mum was Welsh and so our holidays were us being

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-dragged around our relations in Wales.

-Oh, right.

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So that was always our holiday.

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So the Norfolk Broads, this was a big, big holiday.

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This was a foreign trip.

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So there was your dad here,

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-there's your mum.

-Mum.

-Baby on the lap.

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With Andrew, my little brother,

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-who was about two and a bit, three then.

-Right.

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And then there was David, my other brother,

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who's about 20 months younger than me

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and me in the back.

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So where did you live?

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We lived in a three-bed semi in Southampton.

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It was a long journey then from Southampton.

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Yeah, it must've been. I can't... Do you know, I can't remember much

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of the journey apart from who was in the car.

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-And had you been on a boat or anything before?

-No. God, no.

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That was always my dad's dream though.

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He said he'd love to live on a boat.

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So for him I think it was...

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He worked hard all his life and I think he wanted

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-a holiday that he thought was a real splash out, you know?

-Yeah.

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-That's great though, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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# You've done it all... #

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Back in 1975 it wasn't just Fiona

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and her family embarking on a long journey.

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Dougal Haston and Doug Scott had a lot further to travel

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as they became the first Britons

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to reach the summit of the world's highest mountain, Everest.

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And this is the route that all

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expeditions to the south-west face have used, is it?

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Yes, it's the standard route.

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The man who climbed to the highest heights of the silent film era

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also hit the headlines as Charlie Chaplin received

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a knighthood from the Queen at the ripe old age of 85.

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Is it to be Sir Charles or Sir Charlie from now on?

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Sir Charles.

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Six years after oil was discovered off the coast of Aberdeen,

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the Queen officially opened the UK's first oil pipeline,

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pumping 10,000 barrels of North Sea black gold every day.

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That first trickle will grow and by 1977,

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supplies from the Forties Field alone should amount to

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at least one quarter of the oil

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we require as a nation.

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But also striking gold that year in the world of music was

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Steve Harley and Cockney Rebel with their smash hit,

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Make Me Smile (Come Up And See Me).

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# Come up and see me

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# Make me smile

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# Or do what you want running wild. #

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And smiling is exactly what holidays are all about.

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And after their long car journey,

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Fiona and the rest of the family had at last arrived.

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Now, Fiona, does this bring back any happy memories of 1975?

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Oh, do you know, what it does bring back, obviously, my mum, my dad.

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Memories of them. I remember when I got here the boat had rough plastic.

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I suppose it was like a floating caravan really.

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Yeah, that's exactly what it was and I don't remember us moving anywhere.

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Oh, you just...

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-We were floating but I think we just floated!

-You just slept in it.

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We didn't actually go anywhere.

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Today we'll be doing a lot more than just floating on the Broads

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but I want to know more about Fiona's holiday boat.

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-So what did your boat look like?

-It was long.

-Right.

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It was clad in wood around the top bit and the rest of it,

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I assumed fibreglass, a creamy coloured fibreglass.

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It had a horrible old, faded orangey old curtains at the window.

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Very '70s, actually. Very orange and brown.

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Well, to relive those days,

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I found a boat that's of similar age

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to the one Fiona holidayed on -

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the Jenny Wren, captained by James.

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-So, now look at this one coming in.

-Yeah.

-The Jenny Wren.

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Would that have been something like...?

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Something like it but it was a bit bigger.

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Well, it's got better curtains, hasn't it?

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Ours had old faded orangey things just sort of hung there.

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They're all pinned back and they look nice.

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Although my dad, bless him, he thought it was really...

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-BOTH:

-The bees knees, yeah.

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He was on a boat for a week, you know?

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-Now, I'm going to do something nautical here.

-OK.

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Can I get the rope and pull it in or something?

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I'd love to do something nautical.

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I'm a good catcher. Do I pull it?

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You'll have to give me a hand here.

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Come on. Grrah! Ha-ha! Ha-ha!

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-So my brothers and my dad would have done this.

-Yeah, well...

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You want me to take it round there?

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You haven't done a figure of eight here. You have to do...

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-Let's put that... There you go like that.

-Oh.

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You see, a figure of eight.

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Well, I've never been on a boat like this.

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You see, I'm very impressed I've remembered that, actually.

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-You've done well. Shall we get on?

-Yes. Shall we?

-Come on.

-Ooh, dear.

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-James.

-Good morning.

-Len. This is Fiona.

-Hi, James.

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-Hi.

-Nice to meet you.

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What year is this boat? Would it have been around in '75?

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-Yes, she certainly was. She was built in the early

-'50s. Ooh.

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Well, I reckon that would have been about the age

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cos it was very similar to this.

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-I like it.

-Yeah, I love the wood. The wood is warm, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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-Shall we set sail and have a little mooch along?

-That would be nice.

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SHE CHUCKLES Come on, James!

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Away...

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-Shiver me timbers.

-Shiver me timbers! And off we go.

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Oh, I'm going to enjoy this.

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There's something very graceful about it, isn't there?

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Yeah, leisurely. I'm liking it.

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This is the life, isn't it?

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On a day like this you could be in the South of France

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but here we are in Norfolk

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sailing along on the old boat.

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But if the unpredictable British weather

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took a turn for the worse, Fiona's family could always escape inside.

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I wonder if this interior brings back any memories.

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-You're nearly hitting the roof here. Mind your head.

-Yeah, I did.

-See?

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-Ooh! You're able to move between...

-It is compact, isn't it?

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It's lovely though. And this must have been...

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You must be able to pull these out and make the beds out of them.

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Goodness knows how though. I don't know. Oh, that's a drawer.

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I don't know. I can't remember how you do that.

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-Yeah.

-Ooh.

-Oh, no don't. Don't break it. It's 60 years old.

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To put us back in 1975, I've even got one of the original

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holiday brochures Fiona's dad booked their trip through.

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That would have been the time, won't it?

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-That is it.

-"Come boating with Hoseasons."

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-1975.

-Ah, 1975!

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My goodness!

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I guess your dad got this magazine cos it's fabulous.

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Ah, now I like the look of that one but it's...

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I remember him looking through it all proud.

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Now I think, hang on... Ours was like that. It's like a sort of...

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-It's like a bungalow on a boat!

-Yes.

-Yeah, it was similar.

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-I remember you could walk around the side...

-Yeah.

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-..because I had an incident.

-Oh, you fell in?

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Well, I went outside and daydreaming over the side and I fell in.

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My dad just went, "Ooh, God, she's fallen in."

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-Didn't try and rescue me.

-No rescuing.

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-No throwing in the life buoy or whatever.

-No.

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And my brother jumped on...

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There was a little rowing boat, he jumped onto a rowing boat

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-and rescued me.

-There you are.

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And I had to go straight in that bathroom,

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in that plastic bath next to the chemical toilet.

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-Oh, no.

-Yes.

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And when Fiona wasn't being dragged out of the water by her brother,

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she was busy following her mum around the many souvenir shops

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that surrounded the Broads.

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My mum saw this blessed old...

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And you would've seen them in lots of people's houses I'm sure,

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and she thought it was the Crown Jewels. It was a carthorse.

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Do you remember those old Shire pony,

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china Shire pony with all the leather straps and everything

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with a grey horrible old cart on the back with all brass and...

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Pride of position when we got home

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and I lived with that thing for years!

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Oi! I've got one of them on my mantelpiece

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right beside the glitter ball.

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I'm classy like that.

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Tourists, like Fiona and her family, have been setting sail

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along the Broads since Victorian times

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but it wasn't until the 1950s that they hit on the theory

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of how the Broads got to be what they are today.

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It was generally thought that the Broads were just natural lakes

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and rivers but in the 1950s it was discovered by Joyce Lambert,

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who was a botanist and she was working in some of the Broads here.

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The sides were vertical or they were stepped.

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So she put forward a paper to say that they had been dug by man

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and they were dug for peat.

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And peat was used for heating and for homes.

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So great quantities of peat were dug which made holes.

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And these holes were filled in

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in the 1400s by a great rise in the water.

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And then they were formed as broads or lakes

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but now we know them as broads.

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We're taking a break from sailing

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to hop on to dry land to get some supplies,

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just like Fiona did on the Norfolk Broads adventure.

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Plus, I want to know how she got her pocket money back in the '70s.

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You used to have a paper round.

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-I had a morning paper round, an evening paper round.

-Really?

-Yeah.

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And I was so good at my job,

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I got promoted to working in the newsagents.

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-Really?

-Yes.

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Was that so that you could buy whatever you wanted rather than say,

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-"Mum, I want this"?

-Absolutely.

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I wanted everything that was in fashion

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and my mum always said to me,

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"If you want fashion things, you get out and work for them."

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-Yeah.

-And I did. And that's given me an independence.

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I've never had to rely on anyone else. Fortunately.

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-And that's carried on, I guess, throughout your life really.

-Yeah.

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And I suppose on your holiday you'd come in places like this

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with your dad to collect, get bits and pieces.

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-What would you be getting?

-I'd be getting Smash Hits.

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Anything with the Bay City Rollers or David Essex or Donny Osmond on.

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And there was one called Disco 45 and it was really hip

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because it had the lyrics of the songs of the time in there.

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-Of all the hits, yeah.

-Really? Let's look here a moment.

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-Was it something like...

-Oh, no!

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You've got one. With David Essex on!

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-Oh, my goodness.

-Was it a bit like this one?

-Wasn't he dreamy?

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Why don't we pop off and we can have a little read

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of Disco 45 Song Book?

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-We don't just read Disco 45, you sing it!

-Sing it! Oh!

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A Len and Fiona duet, what fun!

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And don't worry, I have paid for the magazine.

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The Norfolk Broads are alive with exciting things to see and do.

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So if you're heading to these parts

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then I've seven top tips for your visit.

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Regular visitors will be familiar

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with the wonderful windmills in the area.

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And this little beauty is one of the most active of them all.

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But you won't find a grain of flour in sight.

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Built in 1874, Hardley Windmill's purpose was purely to pump water

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from nearby marshes into the River Yare.

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Before it closed down in the middle of the last century, it was

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capable of raising an incredible 12 tonnes of water every minute.

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After standing derelict for years, its sails now turned once more.

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The Broads have so much beauty to offer but most

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only access a fraction of it

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and it's the shallow backwaters that are havens for wildlife.

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Have a paddle down some of the undisturbed ways or get a

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guided tour with canoe man Mark Wilkinson

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and trusty dog, Mr Darcy.

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Canoeing is obviously a fantastic way to see the Broads

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in the fact that one, it's incredibly environmentally friendly.

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Yeah, we're not disturbing anything,

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we're not causing any pollution.

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It's very, very easy.

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You don't have to be any great expert.

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You can be a complete novice

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and you can spend a day out on the water and have a wonderful time.

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It also gives you access to the bits where the motor boats can't get to.

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You know, the water gets too shallow, starts to get really muddy,

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get's tree roots in it, like we've got down here.

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The motor boats can't go there.

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Canoes, we need two, three inches of water and we can go

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almost anywhere we like.

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I'm with Fiona Phillips in the Norfolk Broads,

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where she and her family holidayed back in 1975.

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We've headed to the riverside to rekindle some teenage memories.

0:18:340:18:39

-Here it is. Disco 45 Song Book.

-Disco 45!

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-Freddie Mercury in there, bless him.

-Were you good at school?

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Ah! No.

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Yeah, do you know, my dad always said to me,

0:18:490:18:52

"It's a criminal waste of intelligence."

0:18:520:18:54

In primary school, I won a national poetry prize, I won another...

0:18:540:18:59

I won an art prize.

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I was always being marched around the rest of the classes by

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the headmaster to read out my brilliant English essays.

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And then I went to secondary school and it all went wrong.

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And I thought fooling around in class was really cool,

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doing no work, not doing the homework.

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I took my O-levels, as they were then.

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I got English cos you didn't have to revise and I got a B for that.

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-And I'd got Ds and Es for the rest of them.

-Really?

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And I'll never ever forget my mum and dad's face

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when those results came in.

0:19:320:19:33

I retook all my O-levels and did three A-levels,

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started three A-levels at the same time.

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And I had to stay three years at sixth form

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so all my friends left and I was still there.

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So you came to your senses eventually and realised...

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I did come to my senses. I did an English degree.

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-Did you?

-I did, yeah. At a polytechnic, not a university

0:19:510:19:54

cos I'd left it so late. And during that, actually, I thought,

0:19:540:19:57

"Yeah, I'd quite like to be a journalist."

0:19:570:19:59

And I did a postgraduate certificate in radio journalism

0:19:590:20:03

and then I worked for a year at one station for absolutely nothing

0:20:030:20:09

In the end, they gave me a job because I'd make myself so...

0:20:090:20:13

They needed me and I was doing everything for nothing.

0:20:130:20:16

And in the end they started paying me.

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-Was that on a radio station?

-Yeah, a local radio station.

-Right.

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Fiona's big break in radio really changed her life.

0:20:230:20:27

And speaking of changes...

0:20:270:20:28

The boats sailing through the Broads today are very different to those

0:20:340:20:38

of the 1970s.

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Holiday-maker Caroline Male remembers what it was like

0:20:400:20:43

when she came here all those years ago.

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My parents had a traditional Norfolk cruiser,

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and we used to spend a month on the Broads every August,

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and that comprised of driving the boat

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from here, there and everywhere.

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We used to cover all four rivers.

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It was a fairly basic existence, I will say.

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We didn't have a shower on board,

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so we had to find showers at various boatyards.

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The loo system, until the mid-1970s, was also very basic.

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You could press the pedal and see the river underneath,

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cos that's actually where all the waste went, which wasn't great.

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There's more proper moorings now than there used to be.

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You used to very much have to sort of moor up on a muddy bank

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and use a land anchor, which is a big sort of metal thing

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that you bang into the ground,

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traditionally known as wild moorings.

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A lot of them have actually got plug-in electricity as well,

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which is great,

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and it means that you don't have to run your engine

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if you haven't been that far to actually make sure

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you've got electricity within the boat for the day.

0:21:390:21:41

We've stepped back aboard our boat for the day

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to relive some of those early memories.

0:21:490:21:51

For teenager Fiona Phillips in 1975, forget the scenery -

0:21:510:21:55

it was all about music and magazines.

0:21:550:21:59

Shall we have a song?

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-Well, I hope you're going to sing it.

-What about...?

0:22:000:22:03

-# Mama, just killed a man...

-Just killed a... #

0:22:030:22:06

No, no, no, wait a minute. We've got to get into character.

0:22:060:22:08

-OK. OK.

-We've got to get a bit into character here.

0:22:080:22:10

I'll be Brian May.

0:22:100:22:12

-Oh, am I Freddie?

-You're Freddie.

0:22:120:22:15

Oh, hang on. Freddie.

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Is that my sole prop? A Freddie moustache.

0:22:160:22:19

Hang on, how do you get this off?

0:22:190:22:21

-Let's have a look. Oh-ho-ho!

-# Mama!

0:22:270:22:30

-# Just killed a man... #

-Oh, yes. Wait a minute.

0:22:300:22:32

Oh, Brian.

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-LAUGHING:

-Oh, you do look like him.

0:22:360:22:39

Don't me laugh cos my moustache comes off.

0:22:390:22:42

-There you are.

-Well, you look like King Charles I.

0:22:420:22:45

-Charles I.

-Trust me.

0:22:450:22:47

-Are you ready?

-Yeah.

-Well, I'll kick it off.

-Yeah.

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# Is this the real life?

0:22:490:22:52

# Is this just fantasy?

0:22:520:22:55

# Caught in a landslide

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-BOTH:

-# No escape from reality

0:22:570:23:01

# Open your eyes

0:23:010:23:04

# Look up to the skies and see

0:23:040:23:11

# I'm just a poor boy

0:23:110:23:14

-BOTH:

-# I need NO sympathy

0:23:140:23:17

# Because I'm easy come, easy go

0:23:170:23:21

# Little high, little low

0:23:210:23:24

# Any way the wind blows

0:23:240:23:28

# Doesn't really matter to me

0:23:280:23:34

# To me... #

0:23:340:23:36

-We've key-changed about ten times.

-I'm no good at singing.

0:23:360:23:40

GUITAR SOLO PLAYS

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Big hair was all the rage in the '70s,

0:23:420:23:45

and music didn't come much bigger than Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody.

0:23:450:23:50

At the time, it was the most expensive single ever made.

0:23:500:23:54

It became Christmas number one in 1975

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and held the top spot for nine weeks,

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but I think our version is almost as good.

0:24:000:24:03

# I see a little silhouetto of a man

0:24:060:24:08

-BOTH:

-# Scaramouche, Scaramouche Will you do the Fandango?

0:24:080:24:12

# Thunderbolt and lightning Very, very frightening me

0:24:120:24:15

-# Galileo

-Galileo

0:24:150:24:17

-# Galileo, Figaro

-Galileo... #

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Does he come in now with a guitar?

0:24:190:24:21

THEY IMITATE GUITAR SOLO

0:24:210:24:25

-Jeez... Ha-ha!

-Oh, Brian!

0:24:250:24:27

-Hey!

-Take it easy.

-Calm it down.

0:24:270:24:29

Oh. I tell you what...

0:24:290:24:31

I think we've docked. Is that what you call it?

0:24:310:24:34

THEY GIGGLE I think...

0:24:340:24:36

I think we've gone past our sell by date,

0:24:360:24:38

I don't know about docked.

0:24:380:24:39

There you are.

0:24:410:24:42

I've got to sit down now. I've overwhelmed myself.

0:24:420:24:44

-I have, and my moustache is coming off.

-Oh...

0:24:440:24:47

# Just gotta get out

0:24:480:24:51

# Just gotta get right outta here... #

0:24:510:24:55

I bet you didn't think in 1975 that you'd be back on the Norfolk Broads

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-singing Bohemian Rhapsody with some...

-With King Charles I.

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With King Charles I.

0:25:040:25:06

Being a rock star is exhausting.

0:25:080:25:09

I think we need a well-earned rest.

0:25:090:25:12

While we catch our breath,

0:25:160:25:17

here's the next instalment of my seven top tips

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for visiting this area.

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Wroxham is often referred to as the capital of the Broads,

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and as well as being home to lovely shops,

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there's also an abundance of boats in the town

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making it an ideal place for a nice day out.

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But if that's not to your taste, try the Mustard Museum.

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It's packed with memorabilia

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charting the history of Norfolk's world-famous condiment.

0:25:410:25:44

Ooh, yummy.

0:25:440:25:45

The mustard shop was first opened

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in 1973 in Bridewell Alley,

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and it was to celebrate 150 years of mustard being made

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in the City of Norwich.

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So, the shop was fitted out with Victorian interior

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to celebrate the era when mustard was first made in the city.

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Mustard has lots of different uses,

0:26:020:26:04

and it's been used for over 2,000 years for different purposes,

0:26:040:26:07

and there was actually a range of

0:26:070:26:09

different medicinal products that were produced.

0:26:090:26:11

For example, mustard plasters and mustard baths,

0:26:110:26:15

which were used to help cure colds,

0:26:150:26:18

and also mustard oil, which was a cure for rheumatism.

0:26:180:26:22

Head along the Norfolk Broads and you'll find yourself in Norwich.

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It started off as an Anglo-Saxon settlement on the River Wensum.

0:26:250:26:29

After the Norman invasion,

0:26:290:26:31

it transformed into a wool and weaving city,

0:26:310:26:35

but it's also a place that's special to Fiona

0:26:350:26:38

because this is where her broadcasting career

0:26:380:26:41

really kicked off.

0:26:410:26:42

Well, at last we've arrived in Norwich.

0:26:420:26:45

-And it's lovely.

-It is really lovely.

0:26:450:26:48

And you got your first big break, I think, in Norwich.

0:26:480:26:51

Yeah, it was really funny.

0:26:510:26:52

-I was doing a mixture of local radio news and traffic reports.

-Right.

0:26:520:26:57

Where I worked doing traffic reports,

0:26:570:26:59

they said something about a screen test.

0:26:590:27:01

And I told my mum I'd done the screen test,

0:27:010:27:03

and she was really excited.

0:27:030:27:04

And then, about two days after I'd done it,

0:27:040:27:07

I got this phone call from the producer,

0:27:070:27:09

and he said, "Er... I'm sorry to tell you...

0:27:090:27:12

"you got the job!"

0:27:120:27:13

-Oh!

-And I was like...

-SHE SCREAMS

0:27:130:27:15

-I just remember screaming. And...I was on my own.

-Yeah?

0:27:150:27:19

-And then I was... Phoned my mum straightaway, obviously.

-Yeah.

0:27:190:27:22

Oh, great, hey?

0:27:220:27:24

Yeah, and it was... Yes, it was based in Norwich.

0:27:240:27:26

It was a live programme on a Friday night

0:27:260:27:28

which went out in the South East and East Anglia.

0:27:280:27:31

Well, now, a couple of problems actually getting to Margate -

0:27:310:27:33

-by road at least.

-Yes, if you take the car, how right you are.

0:27:330:27:37

The M2 - lots of roadworks on that.

0:27:370:27:39

First of all junctions 3 and 4

0:27:390:27:41

and again between junctions 5 and 6 -

0:27:410:27:43

that's between Sittingbourne and Faversham.

0:27:430:27:45

If you actually do manage to get there,

0:27:450:27:47

there's plenty of parking, but you have to pay,

0:27:470:27:49

so take plenty of loose change with you,

0:27:490:27:51

or take the train to Margate.

0:27:510:27:53

That was my first live TV, really.

0:27:530:27:56

-Well, obviously, Norwich gives you happy memories.

-Yeah, very much so.

0:27:560:28:01

And so what we're going to do, we're going to go and have fun.

0:28:010:28:04

-Ooh!

-Come on, girl.

0:28:040:28:06

I've got a treat in store for Fiona

0:28:090:28:11

with no strings attached.

0:28:110:28:13

I've arranged for us to visit the Norwich Puppet Theatre

0:28:130:28:17

where they make these little critters.

0:28:170:28:19

Look at that face.

0:28:190:28:21

I'm not sure teenage Fiona would've loved this place,

0:28:210:28:23

but I like to broaden horizons.

0:28:230:28:26

So, what I thought we could do is we could make a puppet each.

0:28:260:28:31

Could we? I'm not artistically talented at all.

0:28:310:28:34

-Oh, that's a shame, because I am.

-Good.

0:28:340:28:36

-And I thought you could try and do one of me...

-Right.

0:28:360:28:39

..and I will try and do one of you,

0:28:390:28:41

and then Zara will be the judge.

0:28:410:28:44

So, I've made a start.

0:28:440:28:46

-This one is...

-Yeah.

-..you.

-That's me.

0:28:460:28:48

-I'm glad you've clothed him.

-LAUGHING:

-Well, yes.

-Thank you.

0:28:480:28:51

And this, of course, is the gorgeous Princess Fiona.

0:28:510:28:54

Exactly.

0:28:540:28:56

'There's so many bits and pieces here,

0:28:560:28:58

'it's hard to know where to start.

0:28:580:29:00

'Perhaps right in the middle.'

0:29:000:29:02

And straight on goes her little tiny snubby nose.

0:29:020:29:06

'But before I get too far into the puppet-making zone,

0:29:060:29:09

'I want to find out more about Fiona's days on GMTV.'

0:29:090:29:14

Tell me a little bit about working with Eamonn.

0:29:140:29:17

Oh, do you know?

0:29:170:29:18

You can't put two people together and make chemistry - you can't.

0:29:180:29:22

-Yeah.

-We'd come from our audience.

0:29:220:29:24

We were like our audience, and we understood the audience,

0:29:240:29:28

and we had the same sense of humour.

0:29:280:29:31

-Yeah, that's great.

-Yeah.

0:29:310:29:32

You certainly did have...

0:29:320:29:33

You know, you could see the chemistry coming through

0:29:330:29:37

with the pair of you.

0:29:370:29:38

We sometimes were incapable of going on, because we were...

0:29:380:29:41

we'd made each other laugh so much.

0:29:410:29:43

-And we hoped people at home were laughing too, but...

-Yeah.

0:29:430:29:45

Really, that doesn't matter, I don't think.

0:29:450:29:47

As long as you're having a good time,

0:29:470:29:49

-I think that comes across.

-I think it does, yeah.

0:29:490:29:51

-And you can tell if people get on and you can tell if they're...

-Yeah.

0:29:510:29:55

..you know, just... I think that all comes out.

0:29:550:29:57

But I must say, that period of you and Eamonn on GMTV,

0:29:570:30:02

I think that was the absolute best

0:30:020:30:05

because you could tell there was so much joy going on...

0:30:050:30:08

-Yeah.

-..and you could feel it.

-Yeah.

0:30:080:30:11

And I look back on those days very, very fondly.

0:30:110:30:14

There's a lot of chemistry in puppet-making, too, you know?

0:30:140:30:18

I'm covered in glue.

0:30:180:30:20

But I'm feeling very confident about my creation.

0:30:200:30:23

She doesn't stand a chance.

0:30:240:30:27

I've been doing puppets like this for nearly 50 years.

0:30:270:30:30

Look at that. Just look. It's as though...

0:30:300:30:33

It's as though she's standing next to me now.

0:30:330:30:36

Fiona's making some final touches to her...thing,

0:30:370:30:40

but now it's time to reveal our craftwork.

0:30:400:30:44

-Right, I've finished with him...

-Right. Now, put yours in here.

0:30:440:30:48

SHE LAUGHS Put...

0:30:480:30:50

You've given me a mohican.

0:30:510:30:53

Oh, look. But I've given you... Look, a 7 as well.

0:30:530:30:57

-Oh, that's kind.

-Oh, no, it's gone.

0:30:570:30:58

And I've put you in the ballroom hold.

0:30:580:31:01

However, I'm not very pleased with my nose -

0:31:010:31:04

Cork Nose Goodman... FIONA LAUGHS

0:31:040:31:06

..if I want to be honest.

0:31:060:31:08

Well, let's get Zara in. Zara, come forward, please.

0:31:080:31:11

How many marks are you going to give my...?

0:31:110:31:14

Look at her golden hair.

0:31:140:31:16

How many are you giving that?

0:31:160:31:18

-Maybe a seven.

-IMITATES LEN:

-Seven!

0:31:180:31:20

Another seven. OK, yeah, I'll except a seven.

0:31:200:31:24

Now, go over to Fiona's. What are you going to give that?

0:31:240:31:27

I think I'd probably go...

0:31:270:31:31

with an eight.

0:31:310:31:32

It's the first time I've ever won anything!

0:31:320:31:36

-That is the most hurtful thing.

-I didn't even win raffles!

0:31:360:31:39

You've colluded. There's been a collu...

0:31:390:31:42

Go on. Well done.

0:31:420:31:44

I was robbed. I was robbed!

0:31:440:31:47

I'm not having this. The blooming liberty.

0:31:470:31:50

For some, a holiday is about sampling the local delicacies,

0:31:500:31:54

but for 14-year-old Fiona Phillips,

0:31:540:31:56

you just couldn't beat a good old-fashioned bag of fish and chips.

0:31:560:32:00

However, you've got to sing for your supper with old Lenny boy.

0:32:000:32:04

-This is the place. Ooh!

-It's lovely. Wow.

0:32:050:32:08

-Hello.

-Now, I know...I know you're hungry, but...

-Yeah?

0:32:080:32:11

-..you used to work in a paper shop, right?

-Yeah.

0:32:130:32:17

So... And you never know how your career can turn and change.

0:32:170:32:20

-No, you don't.

-Do you?

-You don't.

0:32:200:32:22

So, they've allowed us to serve fish and chips

0:32:220:32:27

from behind the counter.

0:32:270:32:29

Oh, that would be brilliant.

0:32:290:32:31

'First up, proper chip shop clobber.

0:32:310:32:33

'Oh-ho-ho, I'm going to be good at this.

0:32:330:32:36

'So, we look the part -

0:32:360:32:37

'all we need now is our first customer.'

0:32:370:32:40

Now, look intelligent.

0:32:400:32:42

-Ah! Hello.

-Hello.

-What are you after?

0:32:420:32:45

Can I get cod and chips with a sausage on the side, please?

0:32:450:32:48

Cod and chips with a sausage...

0:32:480:32:50

Cod and chips with a sausage on the side. Anthony.

0:32:500:32:53

All right...

0:32:530:32:54

-That's that.

-'Get in there, Fiona.'

0:32:550:32:58

Do you want a large portion?

0:32:580:32:59

I've given him... I've given him a large one.

0:32:590:33:02

-There you go. Salt and vinegar?

-Yes, please.

0:33:040:33:06

-OK.

-I like doing this.

-You're good.

0:33:060:33:08

There you go. It's not wrapped very nicely, but...

0:33:080:33:11

No, wait a moment. We've got to get...

0:33:110:33:13

-The fish isn't ready.

-The fish is not ready.

0:33:130:33:15

-Oh, I've given him his chips...!

-THEY LAUGH

0:33:150:33:19

Shall I give you some fresh chips?

0:33:190:33:20

I feel really guilty now.

0:33:200:33:22

-I mean, they are still warm. Hot.

-No, they'll be fine.

0:33:220:33:25

You've wrapped them beautifully.

0:33:250:33:27

-'Scuse the fingers.

-There you go.

0:33:270:33:29

-Oh, no, that won't fit.

-It's all right.

0:33:290:33:31

You see them hanging out of the end.

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I'll fold it over.

0:33:330:33:35

'It fits now!'

0:33:350:33:36

Have you seen what he's done to your fish?

0:33:370:33:40

-I've only snapped the tail off.

-He's bent it over.

0:33:400:33:43

-7.85, nine quid, tenner.

-There you go.

0:33:430:33:45

-Thank you.

-Cheers a lot.

0:33:470:33:48

Can I have your autograph? You're our first customer.

0:33:480:33:51

-Thank you very, very much.

-And probably our last.

0:33:510:33:53

-Thanks a lot. Thank you.

-Bye.

-Thank you. Bye. Bye.

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Employees of the Month? Definitely.

0:33:560:33:59

I think that went beautifully.

0:34:010:34:02

Anthony, if we're going to do any more,

0:34:020:34:04

you've got to buck your ideas up...

0:34:040:34:06

-Yeah.

-..cos that was far too slow. God.

0:34:060:34:08

'Right, I've had enough of serving the smiley locals of Norwich.

0:34:080:34:12

'I think Fiona and I deserve some chips to ourselves,

0:34:120:34:15

'although she's very healthy these days, is Fiona.'

0:34:150:34:18

I understand you're a vegetarian.

0:34:180:34:21

I am. Well, I've always loved animals.

0:34:210:34:24

We lived near a cattle market in Canterbury at one time,

0:34:240:34:28

and when Mum told me what happened to them,

0:34:280:34:30

-it really made...

-Yeah?

0:34:300:34:31

Yeah, so I don't eat meat because I like animals.

0:34:310:34:36

And weren't you voted Sexy Vegetarian of 2007?

0:34:360:34:41

Apparently so. WORLD'S Sexiest Vegetarian.

0:34:410:34:44

And Russell Brand was named the World's Sexiest Vegetarian Male.

0:34:440:34:49

-Russell Grant?

-No, Russell Brand!

-Oh, Russell Brand.

0:34:490:34:53

-Could've been Russell Grant!

-Could've been Russell Grant.

-Yeah.

0:34:530:34:56

Now, I'll tell you something else - it put me off for life almost.

0:34:560:34:59

You did that programme about sugar,

0:34:590:35:02

how much sugar was in...

0:35:020:35:04

-The Truth About Sugar.

-The Truth About Sugar.

0:35:040:35:07

But sugar in supermarkets

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isn't just limited to sweet treats,

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it's actually in quite a few savoury products as well,

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and often with a lot more sugar than you'd think.

0:35:140:35:18

Now, did that change you as well as it changed virtually everyone?

0:35:180:35:22

I was just really worried

0:35:220:35:23

cos I've always brought my kids up with nice food,

0:35:230:35:26

and soon as they become old enough

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to buy food in shops and supermarkets,

0:35:280:35:31

they just eat junk now and so much of it.

0:35:310:35:34

I mean, they buy cans of fizzy drink by the shed load.

0:35:340:35:37

And I was just really worried about

0:35:370:35:39

-the amount of sugar they were packing away.

-Yeah.

0:35:390:35:41

And I'm even more worried now I did the programme,

0:35:410:35:44

cos it's in so many things,

0:35:440:35:46

and there's so much of it in everything.

0:35:460:35:48

Speaking of watching what you eat,

0:35:480:35:50

I think we'd better walk off these chips.

0:35:500:35:52

While we do, here's the last of my seven things to do

0:35:540:35:58

in and around the lovely Norfolk Broads.

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If you're a foodie,

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here's something else to really get your taste buds tingling.

0:36:010:36:05

Each season, thousands of Cromer crabs are caught

0:36:050:36:09

on the chalky Norfolk reefs

0:36:090:36:11

and brought ashore where they're turned, by hand,

0:36:110:36:14

into a lovely local delicacy.

0:36:140:36:16

These crabs are famous for their tender and sweet flesh,

0:36:160:36:20

and they taste every bit as good as they look.

0:36:200:36:23

Ooh, yummy.

0:36:230:36:24

No trip to Norwich would be complete

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without a visit to the city's awe-inspiring cathedral.

0:36:270:36:30

This 900-year-old ecclesiastic gem

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is one of the best examples of Romanesque architecture

0:36:340:36:37

in the whole of Europe.

0:36:370:36:39

Air enthusiasts will go into a spin

0:36:390:36:42

at the City of Norwich Aviation Museum

0:36:420:36:45

in Horsham St Faith.

0:36:450:36:47

These impressive machines chart the history of aviation

0:36:470:36:50

across the East of England.

0:36:500:36:52

Tell us more, Colin.

0:36:520:36:53

The Aviation Museum has been on this site

0:36:530:36:55

from around about 1984, 1985.

0:36:550:36:59

It's original conception

0:36:590:37:00

was in the late 1970s.

0:37:000:37:02

We have a complete range of aircraft here.

0:37:020:37:04

We have 14 full aircraft -

0:37:040:37:06

15 if you include the Harrier that's currently being built.

0:37:060:37:09

We've an extensive range of archives,

0:37:090:37:11

and we have two military aeroplanes that they can view from the inside.

0:37:110:37:16

Our two most historically significant aircraft

0:37:160:37:19

are our F27 and Handley Page Herald.

0:37:190:37:22

The F27 has recently undergone significant restoration

0:37:220:37:26

and has been re-sprayed in its originally Air UK colours.

0:37:260:37:31

However all of the aircraft here represent aircraft

0:37:310:37:35

that have flown from bases in Norfolk.

0:37:350:37:37

Spending the day with Fiona,

0:37:400:37:41

it's easy to see she's had a long and clever career

0:37:410:37:45

since her 1975 holiday,

0:37:450:37:47

but one job offer came with real power and responsibility.

0:37:470:37:51

You got a job offer from Gordon Brown.

0:37:510:37:53

Yes, I did, when he was forming his government in 2007,

0:37:530:37:58

and he asked me to be Public Health Minister.

0:37:580:38:02

And I didn't quite know how I could do that without being an MP,

0:38:020:38:06

and... Yeah, yeah, it was a great honour to be asked.

0:38:060:38:09

I can remember sitting there with him,

0:38:090:38:11

and when he said it, I thought, "Oh, gosh," you know,

0:38:110:38:13

-"Does he really mean me?"

-Yeah.

0:38:130:38:16

Well, politicians can be competitive,

0:38:160:38:18

and when Fiona came on Strictly, she wasn't, really.

0:38:180:38:21

I did love her, though.

0:38:210:38:22

But today, bringing back memories of the fairground she visited in 1975,

0:38:220:38:27

I want to see if I can bring out some competitive spirit.

0:38:270:38:30

Well, you may not be that competitive,

0:38:300:38:32

but I've got to tell you, I am.

0:38:320:38:34

So, I'd like us to have a go at the old coconut shies.

0:38:340:38:36

I bet you would.

0:38:360:38:38

I tell you what - it's nothing to do with knocking one off,

0:38:380:38:40

-it's hitting one.

-OK, OK.

0:38:400:38:42

-Just hitting it...

-All right.

-..will count.

0:38:420:38:44

So, it's a target thing rather than a...

0:38:440:38:46

-Yeah, it's a target thing.

-OK.

0:38:460:38:48

Ooh!

0:38:490:38:50

-Oh!

-Oh!

0:38:520:38:54

-Oh...

-Hey, hey, hey!

0:38:550:38:58

-Oh!

-Oh!

0:38:590:39:00

'Now, that wasn't bad, but can Fiona do any better?'

0:39:000:39:05

-Ooh!

-Oh!

0:39:050:39:07

-No!

-No.

0:39:070:39:08

We'll get a bit closer.

0:39:090:39:10

I still won't do it.

0:39:100:39:12

You hit it.

0:39:130:39:14

Oh, you're hitting it lovely now.

0:39:170:39:19

-Well...I mean, it's not budging.

-No, you are.

0:39:190:39:21

-It's not...going anywhere.

-Oh, you've got a double knocker.

0:39:210:39:24

Hold on, there's something I've always wanted to do

0:39:240:39:27

at coconut shies.

0:39:270:39:29

-You see... Get...

-Yeah. And this one.

-Good. Get on with it.

0:39:290:39:32

Fiona admits that she was a bit moody

0:39:330:39:36

when she came here as a teenager,

0:39:360:39:38

but I wonder what Fiona thinks of our Norfolk adventure today.

0:39:380:39:42

Well, I hope you've had a bit more fun than you did

0:39:430:39:47

when you were the 14-year-old sulky girl.

0:39:470:39:50

-Yeah, well, I've smiled a lot more.

-You certainly have.

0:39:500:39:53

And I really appreciate what my parents did

0:39:530:39:56

-to bring us here as well.

-Yeah.

0:39:560:39:58

And I think, you know, thinking of your parents,

0:39:580:40:01

you know, it must be tinged with a little bit of sadness

0:40:010:40:04

because, of course, they both eventually had Alzheimer's,

0:40:040:40:08

and... But then you faced that

0:40:080:40:12

and you wrote about it and did interviews.

0:40:120:40:15

What prompted you to want to do that?

0:40:150:40:17

My parents weren't elderly.

0:40:170:40:19

You know, my mum...had Alzheimer's in her 50s,

0:40:190:40:23

my dad was only in his 60s,

0:40:230:40:24

and I saw the lack of care,

0:40:240:40:27

the lack of understanding by GPs, by hospital doctors,

0:40:270:40:31

and I was angry.

0:40:310:40:32

And I just thought, "Hang on, if I can't deal with this,

0:40:320:40:35

"how...how do other people deal with it?"

0:40:350:40:37

There wasn't proper care, and I'm still cross about that.

0:40:370:40:41

And so I do still do talk about it because it's a real...

0:40:410:40:44

When you have to look after someone 24/7 because they're not...

0:40:440:40:49

Towards the end, they can't be left on their own,

0:40:490:40:51

and, you know, you need help, and it's not there.

0:40:510:40:55

The only way things get improved upon is to make people aware of it,

0:40:550:40:59

and I think that's what you really did.

0:40:590:41:02

You know, when you look back on all the things you've done and that,

0:41:020:41:05

is there any one thing that really makes you proud

0:41:050:41:08

that you're, "Glad I did that."

0:41:080:41:10

I'm glad that I looked after my mum and dad as best I could,

0:41:120:41:16

although I still feel a great guilt that I couldn't do enough,

0:41:160:41:19

and I'm glad that they made...gave me

0:41:190:41:23

their work ethic to get out there aged 11 and do things for myself

0:41:230:41:27

-rather than waiting for them to do it for me.

-Yeah.

0:41:270:41:30

-They're the things I'm most proud of, I think.

-Yeah.

0:41:300:41:34

'It's been lovely spending the day with Fiona

0:41:340:41:37

'and learning about her teenage years.

0:41:370:41:39

'We worked up an appetite...'

0:41:390:41:41

-There you go. Salt and vinegar?

-Yes, please.

0:41:410:41:44

-OK.

-I like doing this.

-You're good.

0:41:440:41:46

'..and rocked till we dropped...'

0:41:460:41:49

There you are. I've got to sit down now. I've overwhelmed myself.

0:41:490:41:52

'..as we sailed down memory lane.'

0:41:520:41:55

-There's something very graceful about it.

-Yeah, it's leisurely.

0:41:550:41:58

I'm liking it.

0:41:580:41:59

-Now...this is a little book of memories...

-Aw.

0:42:060:42:10

-..and you've got me on the front.

-Oh, how lovely.

0:42:100:42:13

A scrapbook of our time in the beautiful from Norfolk Broads

0:42:130:42:17

that will help her remember our boating adventure.

0:42:170:42:21

Earlier, Fiona recalled the horse and cart her mum bought

0:42:210:42:25

when she was here in 1975.

0:42:250:42:27

Well, I've got one final surprise in store.

0:42:270:42:31

Ta-da! SHE GASPS

0:42:310:42:33

It's the... Oh!

0:42:330:42:36

-SHE LAUGHS

-See what I mean?

0:42:360:42:39

-I like it, though, now.

-It's my mum's horse and cart.

0:42:390:42:42

-Well, one similar to it.

-Yeah.

0:42:420:42:44

-Hers was a bit bigger, actually...

-Oh, really?

-..but this is lovely!

0:42:440:42:47

-But I like it, though.

-Well... Yeah.

-Yeah.

0:42:470:42:51

-It was the Crown Jewels in our house.

-Of course.

0:42:510:42:53

-Thank you.

-Well, it's been fabulous.

-Yeah. You too.

0:42:530:42:56

-Thank you very much indeed.

-Thank you so much.

0:42:560:42:58

-I feel very lucky. Thank you.

-No, we've had a lovely time.

0:42:580:43:00

It's goodbye from the Norfolk Broads and 1975.

0:43:000:43:04

Today, Fiona rediscovered her teenage holiday

0:43:040:43:08

that will forever hold a special place in her heart.

0:43:080:43:11

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