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Welcome to Wales Today. Our top story:

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It costs more than ?200 million a year.

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Tonight questions over whether Welsh Government's policy

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of funding university tuition fees can continue.

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I think that education should be accessible to everyone.

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We shouldn't have to consider our financial background

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when we decide where we're going to go and what course we want to do.

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Jailed for stealing ?10,000 during a police raid in Swansea.

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We're in Spain as Wales becomes the first part

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of the UK to introduce new organ donation laws, how has Europe's

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Built in 1900, one of our oldest velodromes could

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Learning from the master of his trade.

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Nigel Owens training the next generation of referees.

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13 flood warnings in force tonight as heavy and persistent

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Good evening. It costs more than ?200 million a year, and tonight

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there are questions over whether the Welsh Government's policy of funding

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Welsh university students can continue. At the moment, students

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pay the first ?3,500 of their fees wherever they study, the rest is

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an estimated 90 million of that goes to universities in England for

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students who choose to study there. Tonight, universities here, and

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opposition parties, say the current situation is untenable.

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This is made in Wales policy which done and stressed the benefits of

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devolution. Exactly five years today, ministers announced Welsh

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students would be protected from a hike in fees. Now that our questions

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about whether the money is going to those who need it most. They should

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be to issue an fees grant for some students and alone for others. That

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is not a big worry because if you look at what has happened in England

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where everybody has got a loan, De Vries and a grant, the loan has not

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deterred people who are coming from disadvantaged backgrounds.

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Universities, the next app for the students at this college and

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Swansea. Why do think about the subsidy at the moment? Being

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available to everyone, the same amount of money. It's good everyone

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has opportunities from working-class backgrounds but I don't see how they

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all need the subsidy that when people are very capable of paying it

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themselves. I like it that everyone has the same sort of standard. It

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would help those who can't really afford it that everyone has the same

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sort of standard. It would help those who can't really afford it but

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manage to go. Universities hope any savings from the new fee system

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would go directly to them. They argue tens of millions of pounds

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leaves Wales every year to pay for the tuition of 12 students in

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England. But a recent report suggested Wales wasn't losing money.

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?153 million leaves Wales with the 20,000 or so students who go to

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study in England. But ?182 million coming to Wales with the 30,000

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students who make the journey in the year direction and study here. We

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accept the current system is not sustainable for the whole of the

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next Assembly, it needs configurations. We would like to

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guarantee those students who study in Wales in Welsh institutions they

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will get a similar deal to what they are getting now. We would have a

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fund that would be for the most disadvantaged, poorest students.

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Rather than spreading the money across all students as happens at

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the moment, at huge cost, we would say this is going to be means

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tested. The Lib Dems were scrapped the fee grants, spending more on

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students living costs and on universities. Ukip has previously

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advocated cutting fees for maths and science students. An investment in

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young people, that is how the Welsh Government describes its subsidy.

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It's commissioned a report considering other options and it

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will be published after next year's Assembly election.

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Welsh Labour MP's can decide for themselves whether or not to support

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Party leader Jeremy Corbyn will allow a free vote

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on the matter after meeting the Shadow Cabinet earlier.

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Our parliamentary correspondent David Cornock is at Westminster.

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What is the mood amongst Welsh Labour MPs? We are getting a clearer

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idea tonight of just how Labour MPs, Welsh Labour MPs will vote when it

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comes to whether or not to extend air strikes to Syria. Paul Flynn is

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a firm opponent of territory action and compare David Cameron to Adolf

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Hitler and accused the Prime Minister of being deluded over his

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plans for the future of Syria. There are serious arguments going on

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within the Shadow Cabinet. Nia Griffith, the Shadow Welsh

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Secretary, said tonight she has spoken out in the Shadow Cabinet

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against air strikes because she simply does not believe there are

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plans that would make the future of Syria say. On the other hand, Chris

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Bryant, the -- the Rhondda MP, he is worried what would happen if one of

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his constituents was killed in a terrorist attack. He is worded

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something has to be done about IS. The vote could come as early as this

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Wednesday. We are expecting a statement by the Prime Minister in

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the next hour or so. Thank you very much.

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Two policemen have each been jailed for two years

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for stealing ?10,000 during a police drugs raid in Swansea.

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Stephen Phillips, a former detective sergeant

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in the South Wales force, and his colleague Michael Stokes were found

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The judge said their actions were a gross abuse of trust, which had

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The officers were close friends and had worked together at Swansea

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Central police station in the organised crime team. The court

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heard by 2011 each of them had significant debts and a gambling

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habit. In 2014 they took part in grades on properties into eddies and

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Swansea belonging to a suspected drug dealer. The court heard how six

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to ?1000 was found in the two saves in the raid but when members of the

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family were not charged, their money was returned, the check they were

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given amounted to ?51,000. The jury was told the officers had stolen the

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rest of the cash during the many count. They'd taken large bundles of

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notes. The family 's complaint following the rape of his house, the

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-- following the raid of his house, an investigation was launched.

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Alongside his collie, he was found guilty of further corruption

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charges. The defence in this case was trying to paint a picture of a

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police force where this kind of behaviour was endemic.

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They would, wouldn't they. I wouldn't accept that point. I will

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repeat the point I made, look at the lengths we went to to investigate

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this case, look at how hard we worked with our colleagues to make

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sure we did have a successful prosecution. That demonstrates just

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how far we will go in identifying and rooting out corruption. The

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sentencing them to two years, the judge said you demonstrated a

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contempt for the laws you were meant to uphold. She said there was

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planning and subterfuge and this was a gross abuse of trust. She added,

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such conduct behaviour has until damaged to the public's confidence

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in the police. -- untold damage. 17 flood warnings have been issued,

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as heavy rain continues to affect This was the scene at Aberystwyth

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seafront earlier today with rough Mid and West Fire and Rescue Service

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have been dealing with around 50 different incidents relating to

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the weather with call-outs in Welshpool, Machynlleth and Newtown

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although they say there haven't been In the Conwy Valley the river

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has burst its banks at Llanrwst. Transport links there have also been

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disrupted with railway lines between North Llanrwst to

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Blaenau Ffestiniog closed. We'll have a full weather forecast

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with Sue Charles just before seven. North Wales Police

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and the care watchdog have launched a joint investigation into

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allegations of poor care standards Radio Cymru's Manylu programme

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revealed last week that the watchdog had banned Plas-y-Bryn

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in Bontnewydd from accepting new residents after three inspections

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in less than a year. The home says it's in the process

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of addressing concerns. A builder from Llanelli who spiked

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a workmate's hot chocolate with amphetamines because he thought it

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would be a "good joke" has been told Kevin Johnstone admitted to

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Swansea Crown Court that he unlawfully and maliciously caused

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amphetamines to be administered. One of the world's leading

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transplant experts has said a change in the law in Wales may not

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increase organ donation rates here, It comes as Wales prepares to become

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the first UK nation to presume that people are willing to give their

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organs unless they've opted out. Spain has the highest donation rate

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of any country in the world and the man in charge of its

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national transplant organisation has been speaking exclusively to our

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health correspondent Owain Clarke. This is his special report

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from Madrid. If you are waiting

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for an organ transplant, arguably there is no better place

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in the world to live than here. Proportionately,

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more organs are donated after death But why are rates here so much

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higher than in many other countries? Some have speculated that Spain's

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world-beating organ donation rates might be down to the fact that

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the country has a presumed consent law, similar to the one that comes

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into force in Wales. But is that the key reason

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for Spain's success? This man is considered to be

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the godfather of the Spanish When he took the reins in 1989,

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Spain's donation rates What we did is practically

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to change everything. The Spanish model is to have

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the adequate person, the adequate The so-called transplant coordinator

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which is a medical doctor, we put one or even more if the hospital is

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big, in every hospital with the possibility

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of having an organ donor. I've been given rare access to

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one of the country's biggest intensive

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care units to speak to one of them. Doctor Del Rio leads a team

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of six doctors and two nurses Their job is to make sure that

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nobody who might end up being a suitable organ donor falls through

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the net. In organ donation here it is

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a part of the job, the daily job. To think of organ donation almost

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in this environment is to think of ordering a blood test, an x-ray.

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It's that natural? But even though the law in Spain

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presumes everybody is a willing donor unless they object,

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in reality if families say no, Proportionally fewer families

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in Spain refuse than almost Transplant coordinators usually

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go to the schools and talk to When they go back to

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their homes they talk to In fact all the experts agree

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the law itself is only More important, they say,

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is the work of the transplant coordinators and making sure enough

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intensive care beds are available. But whatever the reason for Spain's

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success, those who have been given a new lease

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of life are internally grateful. Raquel Nieto expresses her gratitude

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for the gift of new lungs People need to see that

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organ donation works. If a family donates their loved ones

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lungs and see the effect it could You are giving somebody a new life.

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You are giving a family life. My son can talk to me about

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tomorrows now. 800 miles away at Llandough hospital

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in Cardiff, Kimberly, who is also an accomplished artist,

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is hoping her life can also be She has cystic fibrosis which

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means every breath is a struggle. She has spent much

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of the past year in this ward, unable to even go on honeymoon,

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waiting, hoping for one phone call. You can't plan anything because you

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don't know what is going to happen. You have to have your phone on

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you constantly in case they call. Everyone else seems to be going out

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enjoying life and I feel like I'm stuck, and I'm just waiting

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and the world is passing me by. She argues if the new law will mean

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that call could come quickly, for Even if it is just

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about getting more people to talk At every family table, when

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they eat together, they have to talk Talk about what you want

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your family to say. What is clear is the more organs

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that are available for transplant, But the lesson from Spain perhaps is

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the law is only part of the picture. And in tomorrow's programme we'll be

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live from Wales's only organ transplant unit behind the scenes

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speaking to doctors, nurses, Back to tonight, much more to

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come before seven o'clock. One of the oldest outdoor velodromes

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in the UK looks set And how about this

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as an apprenticeship. Nigel Owens inspires

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the next generation The UN conference

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on climate change is underway in Paris, with the ambition

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of finding a global approach to Wales will be represented in the

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discussions but what is happening Our environment correspondent, Iolo

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ap Dafydd, has been finding out. The Paris climate summit to be the

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largest yet, and important enough to attract hundreds of world leaders.

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This conference will be a ground breaking piece of collective

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responsibility and making a difference for the future global

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impact. I am excited that Wales will be playing its part in that. Not

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everyone agrees that we are partly to blame for warming the planet with

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emissions from factories and vehicles. The bustle jollity of

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scientists believe human induced climate change is happening. Welsh

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ministers claim sustainability is at the heart of their policies but

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others argue fully consistent approach especially as the

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government wants an M4 relief road for Newport and a new racetrack for

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Ebbw Vale. The Welsh Government has done some good work and yet come on

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the other hand they are now going to push ahead with this circuit of

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Wales in Blaenau Gwent which will destroy hundreds of tonnes of Pete.

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Changes to the climate is predicted to be to heavy rainfall and more

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extreme weather. That will have impact as well on transport, energy

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and food. This committee cafe staffed by volunteers and fiscal

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prepares and sell surplus food donated by local shops. Otherwise it

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would be taken to landfill sites. We go and collect surplus food from a

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number of local shops and supermarkets in the eerie, bring it

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back to the cafe and turn it into healthy, affordable meals for

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everybody in the community. The cycle for Wales, the waste charity,

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estimates that we produce 227,000 tonnes of household feud waste a

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year. A former environment minister is urging for more action. We have a

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fight and our hands. We have a serious fight on our hands.

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Demonstrators in Cardiff over the weekend were keen to stress the

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importance of battling climate change. And reduce the amount of

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polluting gases in the atmosphere. As the Paris climate summit starts,

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there are some doubts as to whether the pledges made by countries

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worldwide to deduce harmful emissions like carbon dioxide will

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actually be met and would be legally binding.

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Motor racing, rugby and cycling now. Tomos has tonight's sport.

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It's one of the oldest outdoor velodromes in the UK and now

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Carmarthen's cycling track looks set to be developed so it can host

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The county council's agreed to contribute almost half the cost

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of renovating the track with the rest coming from Sport Wales.

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The success of Olympic champions like Geraint Thomas has propelled

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Newport velodrome may be the home of Welsh cycling but Carmarthen is

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The council has agreed to invest half of a ?600,000 scheme to bring

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their track up to the level required for national competition.

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Initially, it will be used for training, both club and club

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clusters. There will be a mixture of clubs coming together. Also the

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Welsh performers team will be using the facility to train rather than

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travelling up to Newport. Built in 1900, it's the oldest

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outdoor velodrome still in use. In its heyday it was magnificent,

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huge crowds watched world records being set,

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it was right at the forefront. The concept of pacing which has

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so revolutionised the sport of cycling was actually developed

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here using a motorbike out in front cyclists realised they were

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able to achieve higher speeds Recent years have been

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a lot more bumpy though and the money is needed for a new all

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weather track and safety fencing to I think it is scraping the surface

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now. Things like this are fundamental. I think it is great and

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we will get more people into cycling. In 2008, a similar scheme

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was announced. It never got off the ground but this time there is more

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confidence. Last time we were looking for funding from various

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lottery. Of course, all that money went towards the Olympic Games. This

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is now post the Olympic games and what we're trying to do is to ensure

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that we have all the facilities people will want.

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The condition of the track means it's off limits for now.

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With a new future could it lead to another world champion like

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World rally championship driver, Elfyn Evans, will not be one

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of the two main drivers at his M-Sport team for next year

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Evans, who's from Dolgellau, finished this year's Championship

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Last month he was officiating at the Rugby World Cup Final,

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now Nigel Owens is helping to find the next generation of referees.

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The increase in the number of rugby matches at schools and

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colleges means there's more demand so the Welsh Rugby Union is aiming

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to lower the age at which people can take charge of a schools match.

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If you do roll this way, it isn't a problem.

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Learning from the master, Nigel Owens helping teenagers keen

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The Welsh Rugby Union says with more matches played at schools and

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The game has grown, it says, since rugby officers tasked with

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promoting the sport started work at 80 schools around the country.

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Most people start refereeing by chance because all of a sudden

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they referee a couple of school games and then, I enjoyed that,

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Some of these here today may be thinking,

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I'll do the course, I'll help referee at some schools games in

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schools but I'm not really thinking about going into refereeing yet.

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When they start refereeing they will enjoy it.

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The immediate aim for the 16-year-olds is to referee

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a schools match, but the WRU hope some will stay on in the role

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eventually officiating in the national leagues and

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There are more than 2600 licensed referees in Wales,

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nearly all are volunteers but just 14% are under 25.

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When you turn 50, your legs start to slow down a

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little bit and perhaps you have been refereeing for ten or 15 years and

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We have to ensure, as a department and as a union,

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we have sufficient match officials coming through on the conveyor belt

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To help achieve that, the Union is in the process of

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lowering the age at which someone can become the referee

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Similar sessions will be held across the country in the coming

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months all aimed at finding the next Nigel Owens.

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Next week we'll find out who's the BBC Cymru Wales Sports

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All will be revealed at the Wales Sport Awards next Monday.

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So, let's have a look at the eight nominees.

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There are eight nominees for the BBC Cymru Wales Sports Personality

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They are Gareth Bale, Wales and Real Madrid footballer whose goals

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Ospreys and Wales rugby union international,

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Dan Biggar, who had a standout Rugby World Cup and Six Nations.

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Double world champion and world record holder,

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European Games gold medallist and World Grand Prix winner,

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The new IBF world featherweight champion, who also defended his

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Back from injury to qualify for the 2016 Olympics,

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Classic winner and career best Tour de France finisher,

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Wales and Swansea city captain, Ashley Williams, who led his country

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To vote for your favourite sports personality dial:

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Or to vote by text simply text the surname of your choice to:

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Voting will close on Saturday the 5th of December at 6pm.

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Please do not vote after this time as your vote will not count

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For full terms and conditions visit bbc.co.uk/sportwales.

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The winner will be announced at the Wales Sport Award on Monday

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Many flood warnings in force tonight.

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Sue's here with the weather forecast.

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Very wet and windy weather over the past 48 hours. Exceptionally strong

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gusts. 93 Mars power in north-west Wales. Still wet and windy night

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ahead. The Met office has an ongoing warning in place for the wind and

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the rain, force along exposed coasts and the rain falling on saturated

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ground and in swollen rivers. Flood warnings today for the Conwy and

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Duffy Valleys. Dozens of flood alerts, full details on Natural

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Resources Wales website. This evening remains wet and windy for a

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time but the wind will start to ease. The rain moving northwards,

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eventually becoming lighter with outbreaks of drizzle. Into the

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colder air in north Wales. Tomorrow's overcast with outbreaks

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of drizzle. Generally cloudy winds stronger. Generally turning dry in

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the afternoon in the south and east and very mad tomorrow for the 1st of

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December. 12 Celsius in Pembrokeshire, 14 in Conwy although

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not always feeling like that in the wind and rain. Tomorrow night 's's

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cloudy with patchy drizzle. Gusty winds again on high ground and along

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exposed coasts. Mild overnight at 8-11 sources. Wednesday starts trite

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but there is further drain on the weight with this front arriving from

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the north-west later. A respite on Wednesday morning, rather cloudy

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with outbreaks of drizzly rain but turning increasingly wet and windy

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from the north-west later on Wednesday. The rain continuing

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overnight into Thursday as that waving weather friend moves back and

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forth and eventually clearing later on Thursday. Further rain early on

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Thursday but improving from the north-west through the day, winds

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easing and the rain clearing Southeast was. It very uncertain few

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days. That on Friday, dryer, clear and colder but not staying that way.

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Looking changeable into the began. It's coming up to seven o'clock,

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the main headlines from the BBC. There are questions tonight over

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whether the Welsh Government's policy of funding student fees is

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sustainable. Universities and opposition parties

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say the policy, where the bulk of students' fees are

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paid by the state, cannot continue. Ministers say it's

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a worthwhile investment. X-Ray's on in half an hour, here's

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Lucy with a preview. On ten nights programme, the

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Pembrokeshire family whose hopes of spending Christmas in their new home

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have been left in tatters. Plus, missing horse trailers. Sluggish

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broadband speeds and dangerous leaking batteries the stop that is

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x-ray tonight at 730. I'll have an update for you here

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at eight o'clock and again That's Wales Today thank you

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for watching from all of us The Hybrid will stand in the ruins

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of Gallifrey and destroy a billion hearts

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to heal its own.

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