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The future of steel making in Port Talbot hangs

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Thousands of miles away at Tata headquarters in India the board

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is deciding the Welsh plant's future.

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Everybody is very worried. Morale is down but people are up for the

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We think we can succeed if we get some backing.

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Tonight we're in India watching Port Talbot's fate unfold.

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I have been speaking to a representative. They are

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tight-lipped about the meeting and unwilling to confirm if we will have

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a decision on the fate of Port Talbot today.

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And I'm at the steelworks, where workers are fighting

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The school trip from Blaenau Gwent caught up that shooting

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Tonight an anxious mum's praise for the teachers.

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I can't wait for them to come home to thank them for everything they've

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And do you struggle getting an appointment to see you doctor ?

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The groundbreaking experiment in Prestatyn offering GPs and other

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It's the biggest steel plant in Britain and tonight the entire

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workforce of 4,000, along with many more thousands of jobs which depend

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upon it, are waiting to know if Port Talbot steelworks

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Its owners, Tata, have been meeting in Mumbai to consider

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whether to continue investing in the plant, which is losing

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a ?1 million a day or cut their losses.

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Tonight, we'll take you to India for the latest there,

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but we begin in Port Talbot where our Business Correspondent,

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It's dominated the Port Talbot skyline for generations, but the

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fate of the steelworks won't be decided here. The Tata board are

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meeting for the half thousand miles away in on by. They will have to

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decide whether to support a survival plan for forward in Port Talbot. One

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of the delegates who travels to India gave us his reaction.

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We are in the dark. The Tata board, as I understand it, are still

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meeting. We are waiting for a representative to come to the Hotel

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to speak to us. We have had no contact with them since meeting

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yesterday. We made the case for the fantastic

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workforce we have in Port Talbot that always delivers whatever it's

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asked to deliver. We left it at that. It was left them

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with an agreement that we would have another meeting after the board

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meeting to make. Tata pays more than 100 million

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pounds a year in salaries in Wales. ?750 -- jobs are going at the site.

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Everybody is very worried. Morale is down. People are left for the fight.

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They think they can succeed if they get some backing behind us.

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Some of the biggest departments as Port Talbot includes steel and slab,

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with 641 people are employed. 473 work in Ireland. 453 are in

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engineering. That is the worst hit section in the current round of

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redundancies with 40% of staff at risk.

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Tata has invested heavily in Port Talbot but the current plan calls

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for an extra ?100 million of investment.

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As with any big monthly national company there is competition within

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it for different parts of the business that wants extra funding.

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Concern is that with Port Talbot losing ?1 million a day, the boards

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in Mumbai might decide that enough is enough and refuse that extra

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investment. Save our steel! The Chief Executive

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of Tata Europe marched through Brussels with workers demanding that

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the EU take action to stop cheap Chinese steel folding into Europe.

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It's not only about the jobs at the steelworks, further redundancies

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here will also have a huge impact across the wider economy.

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Port Talbot steel workers are relatively well-paid, so if people

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were to lose their jobs it's not going to be easy for them to find

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similar employment of the same salary. That takes purchasing power

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out of the local economy. Unions also want more to be done

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about the UK and Welsh government energy costs on business rates.

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We are determined to continue working with Tata to do everything

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possible to secure the longer term interests, strategic interest of the

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UK and protect and preserve as many jobs as possible.

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If Tata decide not to back the planet leaves Port Talbot with an

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uncertain future, the hope is that it won't mean steel-making vanishing

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for blood. -- for good. We'll be live in Port

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Talbot in just a moment. But first let me take you to Mumbai,

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in India, where Tata's board has been meeting and where that

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delegation from Wales, including steel workers,

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the Community Union and the local MP Stephen Kinnock have

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also met Tata officials. The BBC's Mumbai Correspondent,

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Yogita Limaye, has been It's a difficult decision

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that the Tata group have I've been speaking to

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a representative through the day. They have been in evasive

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and tight-lipped and will not confirm whether or not

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we were have a decision on the fate We've also been speaking

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to a delegation from Wales That's delegation includes members

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of the steel worker union They expect to meet a senior board

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member from Tata to find out It has been a difficult

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decision for the Tata group, they have been seeing one

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of the reasons why the businesses in the UK are suffering

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is because of cheap Chinese imports. They can't match the price

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the Chinese are selling this steel. One of the reasons why they say it's

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expensive to produce steel in the UK is because of the regulatory costs

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and higher electricity cost. The Port Talbot plant has been

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losing an estimated ?1 million, or $1.4 million every

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day over the past year. That's why there are fears

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that they might decide to close down The union, however, is hoping

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that the company will That plan comes at a cost,

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there will be job losses, 750 jobs will be cut at Port Talbot,

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but at least the plant will remain open and that means the bulk

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of the 4000 workers there So that's the picture in India

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where Tata's owners are based. Let me take you to Port Talbot now,

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and our Business Correspondent, Brian.

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Let's talk to two people who are watching and waiting for that

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decision to come from Mumbai. Barry Evans is a steel worker here, you

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also represent the community union and Tony Taylor, URA councillor and

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former steelworker. Barry, how sure are you that you can convince Tata

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of the need to go ahead with this plan as it is?

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Obviously, it's been backed and supported by independent experts.

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We believe in the workforce. We back the plan, we just hope we get the

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board's support today. It is a huge impact on the local

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community, these are well-paid jobs and the people put a lot of money

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into the local economy? That is correct. They've is no plan

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B. I keep reiterating all the time you are talking about 15,000 jobs,

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it's not going to be soaked up by the local community. They will be

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suffering, small shops closing and further deprivation.

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It will decimate Port Talbot. What about that idea of there is no plan

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B? If they turn around tonight and say they don't accept the proposal,

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what next? Obviously, that is the worst-case

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scenario. We have two remain optimistic and hopefully will

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support us. They've been supportive up until now. Have faith in us, and

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we will repay them. We need support from the Welsh government,

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Westminster, and the UB and government as well.

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Are you satisfied with this sport you're getting?

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Not at all. The Welsh government should be doing a lot more.

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Westminster are making the right noises but doing nothing. I'm

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disappointed in our UPN MEPs. They should be backing the steel industry

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they should be dumping Chinese steel and subsidising energy prices. When

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you look at that plant it uses the same amount of energy as a city the

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size of Cardiff or Bristol. The least they can do is give us a bit

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of help. Both the Welsh government and UK

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Government has said they are committed to tartar and Port Talbot

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and want to try and make it work. We have a lot more on this urbanite

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including in the late bulletin. Back to you, Jamie.

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Tributes have been paid to a five-year-old boy who died

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Five-year- old Ned Jones, from Capel Bangor near Aberystwyth,

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and 77-year-old Margaretta Jones were among four people who died

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in the crash on the A470 in Powys on Friday.

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The Headteacher at Ysgol Gymraeg Aberystwyth,

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where Ned Jones was a pupil, described him as a "dear

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The Police are appealing for witnesses to the crash.

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Home owners will have to pay an average of ?47 more in council

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New powers allowing the Welsh Government to borrow

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millions of pounds to fund investment should be spent

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on building new houses, rather than on a new motorway south

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of Newport according to the Liberal Democrats.

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By 2018, Welsh Ministers will be able to borrow up to ?500 million.

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Labour wants spend some of this on a new M4 relief road.

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But Welsh Lib Dem leader, Kirsty Williams, says its priorities

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Parents in Blaenau Gwent have praised teachers at a local high

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school after pupils were caught up in a shooting

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No one from Tredegar Comprehensive was hurt, but one mother who spoke

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to her daughter during the incident says teachers were instrumental

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in helping to calm anxious loved ones.

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A man with a gun tries to enter the famous white

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Teenagers from Tredegar comprehensive were inside

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On the phone to her mum as shots were fired yesterday,

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recalling what happens again this afternoon.

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The police were running past us shouting things like 'Get out

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of the way' and stuff like that.

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Then one came back and said we need to hide in this room.

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For her mum it' s been an emotional couple of days.

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We put her on loudspeakers so we could all speak to her.

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Thinking she would tell us what sort of day she'd had.

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It wasn't the reaction I was hoping for when I answered the phone.

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She screams down the phone, saying that some man has a gun.

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No one from the school was hurt, the gunman is now in hospital

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The school has since posted photos of people's continuing their history

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Nothing can stop them according to one Facebook post.

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Parents are full of praise for teachers.

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The teacher I spoke to was reassuring, she was calm

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If she is calm, the kids are calm as well.

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I'm sure all the parents appreciate everything that they've done.

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I really can't wait for them to come home to thank them

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Chelsea's Brother, Kyle had this message for his sister

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It was never likely to be a mistake any of them would forget,

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mums and dads still anxiously waiting to see them

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Do you struggle getting an appointment to see your doctor ?

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The groundbreaking experiment in Prestatyn offering GP

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And despite defeat a couple of players stake a claim to be

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in Chris Coleman's Wales squad for this summer's tournament.

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UKIP leader Nigel Farage says the funding Wales gets from Brussels

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would be available from Westminster if Britain left the EU.

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Tonight in Newport he'll be addressing a rally as part

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of the campaign for a Leave vote at June's referendum.

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Before the event, Mr Farage distanced himself from a UKIP

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assembly candidate who has linked a rubbish problem in part of Cardiff

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As part of a series of extended interviews.

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from both sides of the debate, he spoke to our political

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Another busy day at the medical centre, it has 18,000 patients on

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its books and along with smaller practices in the area is ending its

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contact with the health board at the end of the week. It is because of a

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failure to replace MPs retiring. There are no doctors coming through.

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There is no foreseeable way to bring doctors in. When you look at those

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factors you've got to remodel. They are hoping as we are that this new

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model will work. My sincere apologies, that is the

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wrong film. I'm going to tell you a little bit about that now. It is

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about whether you have trouble getting to see your doctor. In

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Prestatyn they will be a new approach to primary health care.

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Betsi Cadwaladr Healthboard will transfer services to Ahab in the

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town, the former council building, it will be run by the health board

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following the decision by two of the town's practices to close.

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following the decision by two of the Richards has that report.

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Another busy day at the medical centre, it has 18,000 patients

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on its books and along with smaller practices in the area

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is ending its contact with the health board at the end

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It is because of a failure to replace GPs will retire.

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There is no foreseeable way to bring doctors in.

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When you look at those factors you've got to remodel.

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They are hoping as we are that this new

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This building will eventually replace the existing GP surgery in

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Prestatyn. Until then the health board is trying a new system to

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reduce pressure on doctors and meaning patients get seen more

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quickly. The solution they have come up with

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is based on a system pioneered in Alaska and parts of London,

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assigning patients to a team of health care specialists instead of

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one doctor. We've assigned patients in Prestatyn

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two teams, each team contains the professionals you would previously

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have seen in primary care like GB 's, practice nurses, but some new

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roles like occupational therapists and a stronger input from

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pharmacists. As well as social care and prescribing professionals who

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can help us. We are not just focusing on tablets, but on the

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person. Whatever the reason for the change,

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existing patient support is optimistic, although the transition

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period is causing problems with appointments.

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You can't make appointments until next week. Basically, the turnover,

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nothing is occurring. Is that frustrating was my great is

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at the moment, yeah. You just want to see the doctors or nurses, two

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can't do anything. It's going to be wonderful. We're

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going to have doctors, nurses, triage nurses, everything.

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You bet on appointment the same day. You think it will be a better

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system? Yes. Today the council agreed to

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lease the building to the health board. They will move here by the

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end of the year. Now I take you back to Nigel Farage who says that the

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funding Wales get from Brussels would be available from Westminster

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if written left the European Union. Tonight he is addressing a rally in

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Newport. Before the event, Mr Farage distant himself from a Ukip Assembly

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candidate who was link to rubbish problems in Cardiff to immigration.

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Nigel Farage book to Daniel Davies. Mr Farage, a few weeks ago we here

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at Romney Prime Minister saying that if the UK were outside the EU they

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would be no guarantee that Wales would get the billions of pounds he

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has in funding. He is right about that, isn't he?

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What the Prime Minister forgets is that money that comes to Britain

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from the European Union is our money. Half of it gets lost between

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going to Brussels on coming back. Some of the arguments that have been

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put by David Cameron, and indeed Carwyn Jones, Mr Jones suggested

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that agriculture would cease if we were not members of the European

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Union. The fact is Welsh agriculture has been going on for thousands of

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years and was waving before the Common market, exactly as it will do

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after. But that doesn't answer the

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question. You can't give a guarantee about that money that has been spent

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training people in the Welsh workforce infrastructure, all over

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Wales, subsidies to farmers, you can't guarantee... Subsidies are

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completely guaranteed. We would be a self-governing nation. We spent ?6

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million a year on agriculture subsidy. 3 billion of it is spent

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mostly in France! Do you have two adapt your message

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in any way to convince Wales specifically to vote for you?

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You compare what I said tonight to what I said in the rest of the UK.

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Belfast, London, it's the same everywhere. The one difference

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night, here in Wales, is that they will speak about steel. I will talk

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about the fact that expensive energy, initiative started in the

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European Union, and picked up and made worse by the British government

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has damaged steel and heavy manufacturing in this country.

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Let me ask you about your campaign for the Assembly election. Is Gareth

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Bennett going to be a candidate in that election?

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I am the leader of the party. I have nothing to do with candidate

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selections. My job is to chart a political path forward. All I can

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say is the utterances I have seen that of an individual, he doesn't

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look to me to be the kind of person we would be proud of in a few weeks'

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time. So what happens next's don't ask me,

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Ukip has its own... You must be able to see what the

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procedure is. If you want to interview the party

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chairman or those who deal with selection you are free to do so. As

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leader I have nothing to do with that but unless I'm impressed with

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what I have seen. Let's get tonight's

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sport now, here's Tomos. Football, and the Wales manager,

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Chris Coleman, says his side's preparations for Euro 2016 won't be

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undermined by their recent results. Last night's 1-nil defeat in Ukraine

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means Wales have won only one But Coleman believes

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those results have masked Yesterday's game was Coleman's last

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before he names his squad Between now and the end of the

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season the guys will be doing their best to play as well as they can,

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keep as fit as they can for their clubs.

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We hope and pray they stay fit. We will take the 23 that we choose from

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So a busy time ahead for Chris Coleman and his staff,

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he has around eight weeks until he has to name his squad

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The players will gather again in May, and there are important

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dates for Wales fans to look out for.

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June the 1st, the deadline for Chris Coleman to name the 23 players that

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will be spearheading Wales's challenge in France. He hopes they

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will emerge for the season fit and ready. Gareth Balliol could be in

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action for real Madrid as late as May 28. The one that will be in

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Stockholm, against Sweden. Just six days before Wales's opening game.

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The squad will then head to Brittany, Wales will play three

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games across France, Bordeaux, best known for its wine. This is where

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Wales will start their campaign against the bacteria on June 11. --

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against Slovakia. Next to Toulon, its entire population won't fill a

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stadium, capacity, 38,000, the venue for Wales versus England. Four days

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later, Chris Coleman's players backed by an army of fans will head

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south to Toulouse, for their final group game against Russia. The aim

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is to get their hands on this, a trophy that was in Cardiff yesterday

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with Ian Rush. The first game is vital. Don't lose

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the first game. They'll go into every game full of confidence. I've

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got a strong feeling that this is a wide open and. We've got a good

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defence, teams will be playing Wales.

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There are busy weeks ahead, plans would be fine-tuned and players will

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Plenty to ponder between now and the summer.

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Coleman will be doing his homework tonight, as all three of Wales'

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group opponents are playing in friendlies.

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Other news, and the Rugby Players' Association says the England prop

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Joe Marler has been 'hung out to dry in an excruciating media witch hunt'

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for comments he made towards Wales' Samson Lee at Twickenham

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Having initially avoided punishment Marler is to face

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The Rugby Players' Association say Marler is not racially motivated

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and say the matter should have been closed three weeks ago.

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Time for the weather forecast with Sue.

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Thanks very much. We had heavy downpours at times today. Hill snow

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as well mixed in, but the Show was ease tomorrow and more in the way of

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sunshine for most of Wales. Tonight, some dry spells but scattered

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showers. Wintry with snow in the hills, some frost patches in rural

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spots in North and mid Wales, temperatures hover above freezing. A

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dry yet more cycles date tomorrow with lighter winds. A few showers

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around, wintry with a hail risk but wind easing and turning drier and

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brighter through the day. Lighter westerly winds, top temperatures of

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eight Celsius and ten in Cardiff. We see the odd wintry show tomorrow,

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but dry with lighter winds. Temperatures will drop away, subzero

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across mid Wales with overnight frosts into Thursday. A cold start

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but Thursday looks like a springlike day for Wales, sunny spells,

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variable cloud and small chance of a shower. Five of eight to 11 Celsius.

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A brief ridge of high pressure is keeping things quiet and settled,

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but another weather system will push in from the Atlantic on Friday. It

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could be a dry start, but turning cloudy and windy from the north-west

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with rain possible. Then it looks like that front should recede to

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leave a dry year, slightly warmer day on Saturday, but after heavy

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rain at times some improvements tomorrow and Thursday. Today's

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picture is from Martin Rees, threatening globes in the Brecon

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Beacons. -- threatening clouds. You can send your photos via e-mail or

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Twitter. You could also become one of our weather watchers. Back to

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you, Jamie. And tonight's headlines, there is still no official word from

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the Tata board about whether they will accept a rescue plan put

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forward for the steelworks in Port Talbot. More than 700 workers will

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lose their jobs, it would safeguard thousands more.

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You are not automatically or 4000, you are talking 15,000 jobs. It

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won't be soaked up by the local economy, there is going to be

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suffering. You will have small shops closing and further deprivation. It

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The last word tonight from Port Talbot, and our

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Business Correspondent, Brian Meechan.

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Tata is in a very difficult situation, they have invested a lot

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of money and are being asked for more money and more time but it's

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not getting any of the movement in energy costs or Chinese steel. It's

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a difficult situation, and the question is, have they finally run

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out of patience? We will discover that, potentially, tonight.

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We will discover that, potentially, tonight.

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I'll have an update for you here at 8pm,

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That's Wales Today, thank you for watching from all of us

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