21/11/2017 Breakfast

Hello - this is Breakfast,

with Louise Minchin and Dan Walker.

Theresa May gets the backing

of her cabinet to offer

a bigger Brexit payout.

Senior ministers have agreed that

Britain should offer

more money to the EU,

if it clears the path for trade

talks to begin.

But the Prime Minister is facing

anger from some of her own MPs

who are accusing the EU

of holding the UK to ransom.

Good morning - it's Tuesday

the 21st of November.

Zimbabwe's parliament prepares

to take legal action to force

Robert Mugabe from power.

Early screening for lung cancer.

Doctors say a trial using mobile

scanners in supermarket car parks

has proved a huge success.

Work experience is the link

between education and the economy.

But in some places fewer than 1

in 10 young people get any.

I'm taking a look at

how to improve that.

In sport, could Mike Ashley's days

at Newcastle be numbered

following a formal bid

for the football club?

And it's only November,

but could getting in the festive

mood early but help improve

your winter wellbeing?

It's like celebrating joy. Like, I

was so excited to come to the

Christmas markets this evening.

Christmas trees up at ridiculous

times. Everyone is waiting to put

pictures of Christmas trees on

Facebook.

And Carol has the weather.

You can see the lights of Regent

Street behind me. It is mild around

London, mile across many parts of

the UK. Some rain in the north and

the West so that further east you

are, the dry conditions are here but

more details on 15 minutes.

Good morning.

First, our main story.

Theresa May looks set to offer

the EU a bigger divorce bill payment

in return for starting

trade talks next month.

The BBC understands the move

was approved at a meeting of senior

cabinet ministers yesterday.

The UK had been told it

must make more progress

on its financial offer,

if talks are to move

into the next phase.

But political uncertainty

in Germany has complicated

the picture, with Chancellor Angela

Merkel saying she would prefer

new elections rather than lead

a minority government.

It follows a breakdown in coalition

talks, which plunged the country

into political crisis.

We can get the latest on that

from our correspondent,

Damien McGuinness, who is in Berlin.

But first, let's speak

to our Political Correspondent Alex

Forsyth in Westminster.

Alex, what else came out

of yesterday's meeting?

We are. To reason they effectively

gathered some of her senior figures

around her to try to thrash out the

issue of money because that has been

stuck just -- such as stumbling

block -- block and part of the

problem for to reason they is there

a different views about what should

be done in Cabinet, some saying

let's agree to some more, others

saying, if you give away too much,

you have no cards that to play down

the line. To reason they had already

indicated the UK would meet its

current Budget obligations. That

amounts to some 20 billion euros. It

is understood when the meeting took

place, there was broad agreement the

UK must up its financial offer but

only if the European Union agrees to

start talking trade in December in

return. No figures have been

discussed yet but the danger for to

reason they is if she agrees to pay

too much, she could anger some of

her own Brexit MPs who say it is a

fine line to keep everyone happy and

there is this added convocation

because there is a time pressure on

these talks and now there is

political uncertainty in Germany,

one of the EU's biggest figures

which could further complicates

things or slow things up and sum up

thinking that to reason they should

have waited to see how that plays

out before giving more in terms of

money.

Our correspondent,

Damien McGuinness, is in Berlin.

Could we see a snap election

in Germany in the coming months?

It really depends what happens over

the next few days. Right now, there

is political gridlock because as

Alex said, there is a failure really

to form a coalition here. It's

important not to overstate the

connection between Brexit in the

political crisis in Germany because

there is no direct impact in one

sense. That is because the

negotiations feature exactly zero

Times in the coalition talks. There

was a document in which Brexit was

not mentioned once and any attempts

by pro- Brexit MPs would be

rebuffed. German politicians across

the board are united in the Brussels

stance effectively and how it's been

dealing with Brexit. Having said

that, it's also true that political

instability here in Germany is not

good for the EU as a whole and it

there is a deadlock year and

gridlock in a long drawn-out process

of new elections, that does mean it

heart are potentially for Germany to

offer or take part in pushing

forward. To many of the Britain a

better deal. It does make things

more difficult and does mean there

could be more political instability

over the next few months.

Much to

consider.

We'll speak to Conservative MP

Nigel Evans and Green Party

co-leader Caroline Lucas about this

just after 8 o'clock.

A scheme aimed at detecting lung

cancer, earlier is to be extended

to thousands more patients.

NHS England says the use of mobile

scanners at supermarkets

and shopping centres

in Greater Manchester proved

so successful, similar schemes

will now be rolled out to other

parts of the country.

Caroline Rigby has more.

It has saved my life, definitely

saved my life, because I could have

gone maybe two or three years and it

could have spread everywhere.

Michael Brady was diagnosed with

lung cancer thanks to a project

which offered extra screening to

smokers and former smokers in some

of the poorest Manchester areas.

Patients thought to be most at risk

were given CT scans in Mobile trucks

and supermarkets at shopping

centres. Lung cancer is the biggest

cancer killer in the UK, claiming

35,000 each year. NHS England says

during the pilot one case was

detected every 33 people screamed

and four out of five cases were

diagnosed early when the disease is

easier to treat. -- easier. Similar

schemes in London and the North of

England. Many have welcomed it but

there are warnings there will be

extra staff needed if more lives are

to be saved.

President Trump has announced

that the US is re-designating

North Korea a state sponsor

of terrorism, nine years

after it was removed from the list.

He said the move would

trigger "very large"

additional sanctions

to be announced later.

Mr Trump blamed the country's

nuclear programme, and support

for what he called international

acts of terrorism.

South Korea has welcomed the move.

Robert Mugabe is faces

being impeached after refusing

to step down as

President of Zimbabwe.

The country's ruling party, Zanu-PF,

could ask parlimament to begin

the process today.

The 93-year old, who

remains under armed guard

in the Presidential palace,

is accused of allowing his wife

to usurp power and many believe

he is now incapable of governing.

Last night, the military

suggested a plan was emerging

for the transfer of power.

We have made the consultation with

the President to agree on a roadmap

to the prevailing situation in the

country. The Zimbabwe defence and

security services, are encouraged by

new developments which include

conduct between the President and

the former vice president. He is

expected in the country shortly.

The Argentine Navy says noises

picked up by two ships

in the South Atlantic on their sonar

equipment are not coming

from a missing Argentine submarine.

The sub with 44 crew on board

disappeared 6 days ago

off the coast of Argentina.

Relatives are waiting

patiently for news.

The United States has sent

specialist underwater rescue

equipment to help in the search,

which has been hampered

by heavy winds.

Paul Hollywood has accused former

presenters Mary Berry and Mel and

Sue of abandoning the show when it

moved to Channel 4. He says the

criticism he received was not fun

and that he felt he became the most

hated man in the country. You can't

have a pop at Mary Berry, can you? I

don't know. He is on the front page

of many of the papers. You are going

to be with us for the papers but you

have all the sport fries as well.

I

got my glasses on. For reading the

paper later. Can't read the paper

without them?

No. Those are

excellent.

Aren't they brilliant?

I

will have a go. Hello.

Oh, my

goodness. Very good. Can I do them

now? We have all tried my glasses

on.

They are fabulous.

I just love

them. Anyway. What's going to happen

at Newcastle?

Newcastle have been quite a leaky

club at the moment. Would be

interesting to find out where

information is coming from.

Could Mike Ashley's time as owner

of Newcastle United be coming

to an end?

A financial firm led

by British businesswoman

Amanda Staveley has

launched a takeover bid

in the region of £300 million.

Newcastle are yet to comment

publicly on the news.

Brighton twice came from behind

to draw 2-2 at home to Stoke.

They are now unbeaten in five

Premier League matches while Stoke

are only four points

above the relegation zone.

Australia rugby union head coach

Michael Cheika is being investigated

over his comments and conduct

during the defeat against

England on Saturday.

He reacted angrily when a series

of decisions went against his team

at Twickenham.

And the rematch between David Haye

and Tony Bellew has been pushed back

to either March or May next year.

Haye has torn a bicep

in a freak training accident.

Bellew won the original fight -

and the second clash had been due

to take place at London's

O2 Arena next month.

You as training and training on the

stairs, we have seen his extreme

training regime. -- he was. He was

on stairs and he fell down. They

were just stairs. In the gym, there

are sets of stairs.

Justin Johnson

did that? He fell down the stairs

and he was the overwhelming

favourite.

What was -- was he

training?

He was foolishly wearing

socks. I've fallen down the stairs a

couple of times before. It's not

nice. Top to bottom of the stairs.

And I didn't have anything to drink.

At first? No, tumbling.

Twice in two

months. Was it the middle of the

night and was a dark?

I'd just had

new baby. I was discombobulated.

That is a good work -- good word.

There was no style involved. Full

tumble and crying.

We are all glad

you have recovered. Moving on from

the stairs tumble. Paul Hollywood is

on the front page of the newspapers.

Also front page of the mail as well.

We are talking about people being

offered cancer scans. The front page

of the Times this morning.

Mentioning the death of Charles

Manson. The picture of here is of

Angela Merkel. The possibility of

another German election next few

months. The Brexit bill. The likes

of Jacob Rees-Mogg who are saying

that Brexit talks should stall.

I love how newspapers use pictures

to tell a story. That is the Angela

Merkel front page. She might have

had something in her right.

It made the Telegraph?

In a different form.

Angela Merkel facing battle for

survival. You could use that for an

eye test.

In America, you get politicians,

like Ed Miliband doing the cough

mixture.

This is an interesting story.

Sailors from the Royal Navy will

perform that first changing of the

guards next week at Buckingham

Palace. What are you reading over

there?

British Gas, you might remember that

announced they were getting rid of

the standard variable tariff, the

most expensive tariff, which people

can end up on, where it is variable

depending on what is happening with

gas prices and electricity prices,

which is leading the papers this

morning. The government, you will

remember, Theresa May suggested she

would bring a cap on energy prices,

so it is energy companies trying to

pre-empt what might happen. They say

that is not why they have done it.

It is good news for people who are

on these rates. Just another story,

obviously there is lots of food

delivery companies now, mainly to

your home, but apparently you can

get it to the pub. If you are in a

pub, or an establishment that

doesn't serve food, you can deliver

it now to serve food straight to the

pub. I am sure I have done that

before. I am sure I have had Peter

in a pub.

Have you?

Yes -- pizza in

a pub.

Talking about weird injuries,

Stuart broad, get in on this picture

here, he has been mysteriously

injured in Brisbane ahead of the

first test on Thursday. That is a

bruise. Do you know what happened?

He was hit by a stray golf ball. An

assailant overhit his driver and

struck him on the back. Joe Root was

having a laugh. It could be quite

serious. We need him. And before I

go, I want to show you this.

Favourite headline, who else would

you call if you had a club and

needed a manager? Fireman Sam, West

Brom in talks with Sam Allardyce. I

have not given any way to that. I

thought it was a nice headline.

Lovely stories as well about Jana

Novotna, she worked for the BBC for

BBC Wimbledon. She was so

warmhearted and brilliant. The news

of her death hit many people hard.

Thank you.

From festive adverts

to music in the shops,

Christmas seems to arrive earlier

and earlier every year.

But how soon is too soon

to start celebrating?

It's been suggested that putting

up your decorations sooner can

actually make you feel happier.

Do you agree?

We went to the Manchester Christmas

Markets to find out if people

are feeling warm and fuzzy

inside or frustrated that it's too

much too soon.

I love Christmas. It is my favourite

time of year.

November is a good

time.

No, I think December onwards,

not November.

The earlier, the

better. I love the vibes. I have

been looking forward for this.

Yes.

By the time Christmas comes, I am

fed up with John Lewis and

Sainsbury's.

Wait until December.

When I was little, we put it up on

Christmas Eve.

It can start in

September, we will still be here.

It

is celebrating joy. I was so excited

to come this evening.

People start

putting up the trees at ridiculous

times. Everyone is rating to put up

pictures of Christmas trees on

Facebook.

As soon as Halloween is

done, anything can come out

Christmas related. Is it

controversial?

I think we need to

know what you think about this.

I

really want to hold on until

December the first.

That is too

early for me.

I can see.

The weekend

of the ninth or the 10th, giving you

a buildup to get the juices flowing.

Lots of you have got your

decorations up. Some of you like to

start early and some of you just

before Christmas.

As soon as the

tree goes up, I start eating Brazil

nuts.

Nothing wrong with that.

You

can't have an entire month of nuts.

It looks like Christmas has come

early.

Good morning, Carol.

It looks like Christmas has come

early.

Good morning, Carol. Good

morning. Keep Christmas in December.

You see why businesses have to start

early. Look at the magnificent light

twinkling in the darkness on Regents

Street. London is a light with

Christmas lights. As indeed are at

many other towns and villages in the

UK. The forecast for us all is

fairly cloudy and mild, and some

will see some rain at times. If we

start looking around the country at

nine o'clock this morning, we have

some rain across northern England

and Scotland, and a little dry

weather to start with as well. It is

very mild at the moment.

Temperatures will go up quite high

for the time of year. We have rain

from the west moving east through

the course of the day. So the dry

weather will be across central and

eastern areas with cloud at times.

We might see a little drizzle coming

out of the cloud at times and

brightness in the shelter of the

hills. By the time we get to three

o'clock in the afternoon we will

have the rain moving north across

Scotland. Further south into

northern England we will have rain

crossing the Pennines. For

north-east England you will have

some bright skies and then for the

Midlands there is rain across the

north Midlands, nothing very heavy,

four East Anglia, Essex, Kent, the

Isle of Wight, a lot of cloud around

with limited brightness. To the

south-west of England, we have a

fair bit of cloud, the odd spot of

rain or drizzle coming out of that,

and we have rain across parts of

Wales as well, a lot where it is not

raining, and for Northern Ireland

one or two showers and a little

brightness across the north of

Northern Ireland. It is unseasonably

mild today. As we move through the

evening in overnight we have

distinctive band of rain. One in the

north of Scotland will be heavy and

persistent with winter is across the

Northern Isles. And here the wind

will strengthen gusting to gales or

possibly even severe gales. But a

mild night for most of us. The final

for Scotland, the north-east, in

cold conditions. But for the rest of

us, double figures. As we head on

into tomorrow, more rain in the

north and west. Some of it will be

heavy and persistent, particularly

so across, for example, Cumbrian

Fels, Snowdonia. The further east,

it will be dry. This rain is heading

towards the east. Still mild for

many but cooler conditions spreading

across into northern England and

Northern Ireland. And then by the

time we get to Thursday we have the

rain clearing away from the

south-east, a new band will come in

across the south-west and we also

have a band across the northern half

of Scotland, which will turn wintry

later on in the day as it is going

to be colder. In between, there will

be some dry weather, and just south

by then that looks like it is

hanging onto the milder conditions.

For the rest of us, temperatures

will be tumbling. It is lovely here

this morning, I must say.

will be tumbling. It is lovely here

this morning, I must say.

Isn't it

lovely, I must say. Thank you.

Let's

move to one of the main stories this

morning, Zimbabwe.

His party want to impeach him

and the military are on the streets

of the capital, Harare,

but despite this, Robert Mugabe

remains the President of Zimbabwe.

So what now for the man who has

ruled the country for 37 years?

Gilbert Nyambabvu is editor

of the news website,

New Zimbabwe, and he joins us now.

Good morning and thank you very much

for joining us. It has been an

extraordinary couple of days. So

what will happen? There is talk of

impeachment. Is it likely to start

happening today?

The more important

development overnight, contact has

been initiated between the two

principal players in this farcical

drama. Mugabe spoke with the former

vice president, thought to be behind

the coup. And he is expected to be

continuing negotiations with Mugabe

so I expect that should lead to a

resolution of the crisis one way or

another.

In terms of the possibility

of impeachment, what sort of process

would that take, and where would

that lead Robert Mugabe to

eventually beat, maybe in prison,

would he leave Zimbabwe, what do you

think?

It is not easy for the ruling

party. What will have to happen is

the process be initiated this

morning. A committee of parliament

will be chosen to discuss it. Then,

if the committee thinks there are

grounds for impeachment, it comes

back to a joint sitting of the

Senate and they also have an

assembly to carry through the

impeachment, after which Mugabe

won't be president. And then what

happens after that is the vice

president takes over for a period of

up to 90 days in which time the

ruling party must advise the Speaker

of who their new leader is.

Could

Robert Mugabe ignore the process,

like he has ignored the calls to

step down?

It is difficult for him

to ignore the impeachment process

but I am not sure how sincere the

ruling party are on the impeachment

process. I suspect they are using

that to force him to negotiate. The

impeachment is not the easiest route

for the ruling party. They will have

to make serious concessions to the

opposition. They need the support of

the opposition to carry through. Not

all of these MPs support what is

going on. Some of the concessions

the opposition demand include

political reforms to ensure free and

fair elections and ZANU-PF will

never reform itself out of power.

They also demanded a coalition

government. ZANU-PF does not want

that. My sense is the impeachment

process is to force Mugabe to come

to an agreement in this process

which started with Mugabe.

How much

support do you think there is in

Zimbabwe for Robert Mugabe?

In terms

of the ordinary people?

Yes.

He

would have got a sense of that on

Saturday. Generally, Zimbabwean clue

that won him to go. His spokesperson

said something important with the

Financial Times -- Zimbabweans want

him to go. It is not on the will of

the people but with those who wield

power and those who wield power at

the moment the military. In his

view, he really doesn't care what

people think, that is why he can't

ignore is ignored the demonstration

on Saturday.

There is no sign of

Grace Mugabe?

No, it is believed it

is at the family private home.

OK.

And how key is what happens to her

to the future of Zimbabwe?

I think

it is important, Mugabe will seek

guarantees for her safety, if he

decides to set down, which I don't

expect he will. He has always said

he will retire the Mugabe way, which

means going out in glory, in a

dignified way. So he will try to

ensure that he is allowed to

continuing office until the ZANU-PF

congress in December, which might

choose a new leader, allowing him to

finish his term, which should end

next year during the elections. So

than a contest will be held.

It

sounds as you say unlikely he will

spend any time in jail eventually

because if he goes there will have

to be a deal signed that will allow

him to leave with his head held

high?

Exactly, he will try avoid any

of this.

Good to talk to you, thank

you for talking to us.

Thank you for

having me.

Time now to get the news,

travel and weather where you are.

We have a packed programme, we

haven't even mentioned Paloma Faith

is coming on the programme.

You have

now.

Vanessa Feltz has a Breakfast show

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We'll bring you all the latest

news and sport in a moment,

but also on Breakfast this morning:

We'll be looking at why so many

older people feel excluded

from the high street and why

more seating could help

tackle the problem.

The government has promised to scrap

tampon tax next year.

But with the budget looming,

we'll discuss whether the move goes

far enough to end

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modern society and politics.

Good morning.

Here's a summary of this morning's

main stories from BBC News.

to reason they look set to offer the

EU are bigger divorce and returned

the trade talks. The BBC understands

the move was given a go-ahead at a

meeting of senior Cabinet ministers.

The Prime Minister is acted to put

the offer to the EU later this week,

Britain told it must make more

progress if talks are to move on to

the next phase.

Robert Mugabe faces being impeached

after refusing to step down

as President of Zimbabwe.

The country's ruling party, Zanu-PF,

could ask parliament to begin

the process today.

The 93-year old, who

remains under armed guard

in the Presidential palace,

is accused of allowing his wife

to usurp power and many believe

he is now incapable of governing.

Last night, the military

suggested a plan was emerging

for the transfer of power.

We have made further consultation

with the President to agree on the

roadmap in the prevailing situation

in the country. The Zimbabwe defence

and security services are encouraged

by new developments which include

conduct between the President and

the former vice president, Emmerson

Mnangagwa, who is expected in the

country shortly.

A scheme aimed at detecting lung

cancer, earlier is to be extended

to thousands more patients.

NHS England says the use of mobile

scanners at supermarkets

and shopping centres

in Greater Manchester proved

so successful, similar schemes

will now be rolled out to other

parts of the country.

There is an increase in cages found

at stage one or two when the disease

is more easily treated.

President Trump has re-declared

North Korea as a state sponsor

of terrorism - nine years

after it was removed from the list.

Mr Trump said the move

would trigger very large

additional sanctions,

which will be announced

in the future.

He blamed the country's nuclear

programme, as well as its support

for what he called "international

acts of terrorism".

South Korea has welcomed the move.

The Argentine Navy says noises

picked up by two ships

in the South Atlantic on their sonar

equipment are not coming

from a missing Argentine submarine.

The sub - with 44 crew members

on board - disappeared six days ago

off the coast of Argentina.

The United States has sent

specialist underwater rescue

equipment to help with the search,

which has been hampered

by heavy winds.

Paul Hollywood has accused his

former Bake Off colleagues including

Mary Berry of abandoning the show.

She and Mel and Sue that the

programme when it moved to Channel

4. He says the criticism he received

was not fun and that he felt he

became the most hated man in the

country. There you go. That brings

you up-to-date with Bake Off news.

The latest Bake Off news. If you

didn't want to be the most hated man

in the country, would you criticise

Mary Barry? Would you do that? Let's

not go there.

Let's talk about Mike Ashley

instead. His time as owner of

Newcastle United could in fact be

coming to an end.

A financial firm led

by British businesswoman

Amanda Staveley has

launched a takeover bid

in the region of £300 million.

Newcastle are yet to comment

publicly on the news.

Brighton twice came from behind

to deny Stoke all three points

at the Amex Stadium

in the Premier League last night.

Stoke took the lead

through Choupo-Moting -

his third goal of the season.

Jose Izquierdo got the final goal

of the night to earn Chris Hughton's

side a point - Brighton are now

unbeaten in five league matches.

I would have liked more, certainly,

it probably the overall performance

wasn't good enough to get all three

points and I thought we showed great

credit and character to come back

twice from being behind the Wallaby

overall, I think the draw was a fair

result.

West Bromwich Albion are looking

for a new manager after sacking Tony

Pulis.

A 4-nil home defeat to Chelsea

left the club one point

above the relegation zone and ended

Pulis's reign after less than three

years in charge.

He is the fifth Premier League

manager to be dismissed this season.

Gary Megson has been put

in temporary charge.

Australia head coach Michael Cheika

is being investigated

for his comments and conduct

during Saturday's match

against England at Twickenham.

The disciplinary authorities

are investigating

with an update expected later.

Cheika reacted strongly to a series

of decisions that went

against his side in the 30 points

to 6 defeat, while he also

was involved in an exchange

with a supporter.

Staying with rugby union

and Sarah Hunter will win her

hundredth cap for

England women later.

She'll lead the Red Roses out

against Canada for the second match

in their autumn series.

The 2014 World Cup winner was named

World Player of the Year last year.

David Haye's heavyweight rematch

with Tony Bellew has been postponed

after a freak training accident.

The fight was due to

take place next month,

but Haye slipped during a stair

conditioning session

and tore his bicep when he grabbed

a bannister to stop himself falling.

He's had surgery and it's now hoped

the fight will go ahead next

March or May.

After retiring from football, former

Liverpool and Manchester United

striker Michael Owen

turned his attention horse racing.

And ownership in particular.

(OOV) But now for the first time

he'll compete as a jockey -

his first race will be at Ascot

in aid of the Prince's Countryside

Fund.

Owen will be the only

novice in the race.

He first sat on a horse less

than a year ago and started riding

for the first time in April.

We tried to put the on the nice

horses to start with, one is that

aren't keen spin and spin around so

I've had a gentle introduction but

there is no hiding place, you have

to go and do it and the ups and

downs, the weight loss, getting

dumped on the floor, the pain. It's

all been a massive learning curve

and way harder than I thought.

He must have known how hard it was

going to be. Anybody knows that

jockeys are about as tough as boxes,

they had to be incredibly tough.

Just one year he has done that.

Have

you ever been on one of those fake

bourse machines?

We always send

Michael Rushall to go there when

that happens.

Have you done that? I

tried it but it looked ridiculous.

I

am not built to be a jockey. Me

neither.

From cleaners to security guards,

more than 3 million people

in the UK are outsourced

to companies rather than being

employed directly by them.

That can mean less generous

pensions, as well as holiday

and sick pay.

But a group of staff

are seeking a landmark tribunal

ruling that they have the right

to negotiate better terms

and conditions at the

university where they work.

It could have wide implications

for other outsourced workers.

Let's discuss this with

Hannah Reed who works

in employment rights at the TUC.

They give are joining us. What

exactly is the problem?

There is a

real concern. When we go into the

workplace we see different

colleagues and we think we are all

employed by the same organisation

that many will have been outsourced

and they will often be receiving

less pay, losing out on sick pay and

most importantly, they will not have

a say over how their working lives

are organised. This case really

looks at ensuring that everybody in

the workplace has a fair deal,

everybody gets the same decent pay

and conditions.

You talk about being

outsourced. Most of them all many of

them will be employed by an agency

is why does the agency not have

responsibility for them?

They may be

employed by an agency also this

company but the real concern is a

lot of employers choose to

outsourced workers in order to cut

back on wages and cut back on pay

and conditions so these individuals

who might have previously been

directly employed by the same

employer will find they are being

paid less per hour and losing out on

holiday pay and sick pay.

Let's get

back to the agency thing. Why are

the agencies not pay in holiday pay?

They might well be paying minimum

standards that many outsourced

workers don't receive the going rate

for the job. Many individuals who

are outsourced workers are women,

BME workers who are already

disadvantaged. What's the TUC

believes is that all working people

should receive the going rate for

the job.

I know they are pursuing

this. How would it work the UN and

ideal world? Would you judge on

everybody in the same building? How

would you begin to judge things?

The

TUC believes the government should

bring together unions and employers

to agree on what the going rate

should be to make sure there was a

level playing field and make sure

whether you are employed directly by

a company or by a service company or

an agency, you receive that going

rate of pay. We believe it's

important that all individuals

whether they are employed to an

agency or a service company, they

should have a voice in the workplace

and the best voice you can get in

the workplace is having a trade

union representing you.

With the

university, if they were to go on

and win their case, would there be

widespread changes?

Means employers

would consider thinking twice and

keep staff directly employed that it

could mean the main employers, the

employers at the top of the chain,

would have a responsibility to

ensure that whenever they outsource

their staff, those staff receive a

fair deal but also to ensure they

are getting paid the rate for the

job.

We talk about holiday pay and

pensions. Some of these people might

have missed out on all of those

pensions, holiday pay.

What happens

to that? This case particularly

involving cleaners, when cleaning

contractor outsourced, individuals

receive lower rates of pay. What we

are arguing is there should be a

level playing field for everyone.

Thank you for your time and

practised.

Not many 91 -year-olds

are asked to help with dancing,

particularly when they describe

their owners dancing. Next year is

the 70th anniversary of the SS

Empire Windrush, bringing the first

wave of post-war Caribbean

immigrants to the UK Colin Patterson

has been to rehearsals to find out

more.

The Empire Windrush brings to

Britain many Jamaicans. They served

this country well. History being

turned into dance. Next year as the

70th anniversary of the Empire

Windrush bringing the first large

group of post-war Caribbean

immigrants to the UK. Swing, swing.

Don't go too soon. Sharon Watson is

the artistic dance director of dance

company in Leeds, inspired by her

own mother's journey from Jamaica in

1960s and decided to create a piece

about Empire Windrush.

It resonates

without family in leaving a home and

place. Relocating somewhere new,

somewhere different.

I picked her

brain considerably. Her mum had come

along to see the work in progress

and it was bringing back memories of

own arrival in the UK.

You could see

icicles hanging down from the

windows which you don't see now. I

had a big coat on a big boat and we

had never seen them before. It was a

bit unusual for me.

Members of Leeds

Caribbean community had also been

invited Sydney could give feedback

based on their own voyages.

That

Windrush, it reminds me so much,

like sardines packed in that boat.

And they are thrilled the story will

be on stage next February.

When the

younger people come and see what's

going on, they understand what the

old ladies and old gentleman had to

go through.

So this is Leeds,

1940... 1948. Phoenix has also made

an old discovery they hope they can

show. Alfred Gardiner is 91, lives

in Leeds and came over on Windrush.

His agreed to share his memories to

help shape the production. He was a

mechanic in the RAF in Britain

during the Second World War and a

lack of work at home made him want

to come back.

In Jamaica at the

time, if you haven't got a job, you

are a nobody.

What was it like on

Windrush?

We had six ex- army boys

who want to commandeer our money.

Between us, we got them on the boat.

We were busy hiding the money. Three

men in a toilet hiding.

That is what

happened. What can I say, it's part

of history now. It is history. And

70 years on, Alford, who worked in

factories and had nine children,

thinks getting on Windrush was a

great decision.

I have family,

music. I support. After them three

things, good luck for everything

else.

You strike me as a man who has

enjoyed life.

And I am still

enjoying it. And I will always be

enjoying it.

10am and I will be back in half an

hour.

Oh, what a charming man.

Yeah.

Windrush: Movement of

The People will premiere

at the West Yorkshire Playhouse

in February, before

touring the country.

Shall we find out about the weather?

Carol is looking festive. It might

be cold.

Carol is looking festive. It might

be cold.

It might indeed. Today, it

is mild. Look at this display of

Christmas lights, the Spirit of

Christmas on Regents Street, which

comprise of 300,000 LED lights, they

are or nor mind. It is mild to start

the day across many areas. If we go

from Northern Ireland over to

England - Scotland borders, even

south of that, roughly between ten

and 14 degrees at the moment. It is

cold in Scotland. Generally, for

most of us, the forecast is a mild

one, it is fairly cloudy and there

is also some rain in the forecast.

So, the rain at the moment is across

Scotland and northern England. A lot

of dry weather currently. However,

we have another band of rain which

is going to swing in from the west

through the course of the day. So,

the further east that you are, it

will be drier. Even as we head into

the afternoon, we have a move north

across Scotland, so the Central

Lowlands, into the Highlands and the

Grampians. South of that, cloudy and

dry and very mild with temperatures

in double figures. South across

northern England, fairly cloudy,

rain across the Pennines. North-east

of England have something bright.

And we have rain in parts of the

north Midlands. In East Anglia,

Essex, Kent, down to the Isle of

Wight, a lot of cloud, limited

brightness and the cloud for example

in the south-west of England is

thick enough for the odd spot of

rain but nothing too heavy. Moving

into Wales, more rain, the north

hanging on to some cloud, with

breaks in the sheltered hills, and

for Northern Ireland, rain to the

south of Northern Ireland, not

immune to some showers, a little

brightness in the north of Northern

Ireland. Through the course of the

evening and overnight there are two

distinctive band of rain you can see

on the charts. The first across the

north of Scotland is likely to be

heavy and persistent. And across the

Northern Isles, where it will be

cold, we are looking at wintry

showers. For the rest of us, it is

going to be another mild night,

unseasonably so, with temperatures

in double figures. Then as we head

into tomorrow, increasingly

tomorrow, the wind is going to

strengthen, especially in the west,

with Gusts to gale force. Windy in

southern counties as well, and more

rain coming in across the north and

the west, some of which will be

heavy and persistent, particularly

across Snowdonia, the Cumbrian Fels,

and drifting eastward. Tomorrow,

London might hit 15 Celsius. Then as

we head into Thursday, the rain will

clear from the south-east, then

later in the day we've got more rain

coming in across the south-west, and

we've also got rain and snow across

the northern half of Scotland,

primarily the Grampians and the

Highlands, and some of that snow

will get down to road level.

Something to bear in mind if you are

travelling. Then the cooler air will

filter in that bit further south as

well. Did you know that Regents

Street was the first St to actually

have festive Christmas lights? That

was way back in 1954. Dan, did you

switch them on?

Oh, what?

(LAUGHTER)..

Carol.

Hang on a

minute! That was unnecessary. I have

been really nice this week.

minute! That was unnecessary. I have

been really nice this week.

That was

unexpected, wasn't it?

She has been

working on that for a while, you

ratbag.

Thank you very much indeed.

Excellent, they would have looked

different in 1954.

Thank you. I was

going to chat to Carol, but I can't

be bothered any more. We are talking

about Christmas decorations.

Yes.

And we mentioned it last week, when

did they go up in your house?

You

have to wait till December.

At least

December?

Yes.

Lots of people have

gone very early.

I know. That was

the Christmas decoration falling

down in the background.

They don't

go up in the studio and to two weeks

before Christmas.

We will get some comments on this in

a moment. Lots of people have got in

contact to say when it is right,

wrong and playing insane.

Yes, more

on that later.

First of all, Steph

is talking about unpaid work

experience.

Lots of discussion about

this. Did you do work experience?

Yes, the BBC World Service Latin

American section.

It led you to a

great job. Dan?

I put floppy disks

in the olden days into piles of ten.

That was my work experience.

Who did

you work for?

Packaging company near

Gatwick airport.

And it has served

you well, clearly.

Yes, thank you.

Good morning. Work experience is a

great way of bridging the gap

between what you do at school and

what he might do for a living and

for business it is good to connect

with talent. There has been some

criticism about it with some

employers exploiting these young

people who come and work for them.

What can be done to make sure this

doesn't happen?

I'm joined by businesswoman

Sherry Coutu, who wants

to change that.

Good morning. What is it you want to

do?

I want to make it really easy

for all young children between 16

and 18 to find great work experience

with small companies and large

companies and medium-sized

companies. And there is research

that shows 140 hours of work

experience between 16 and 18 makes

it much easier to think about jobs

they will hold or create later on in

life. And with the world going very

quickly, bringing it all together in

a single place, making it easier for

the young person, on a mobile phone,

is a dream.

This is a charity

launch, so what are the issues with

work experience? It is a great way

to solve the skills gap to have

young people getting skills early

on, but many young people struggle

to get work experience.

Often they

will go to companies at a no. But

there are 5 million companies in the

UK. -- that they know. It is hard if

you don't know them or your teacher

doesn't know them and you don't know

where to look. So you go to the

large ones. 100% of new jobs come

from small and medium-size companies

in the UK. If you put them into a

single place and they like using

phones, so we put it on the phone,

and you just make it easy so with a

couple of taps you can say, I am

interested in that, so you get

recommendation engines to say, well,

have you thought of this one, or

this one? So the same thing that an

engaged parent or teacher can do,

but we go further afield than what

you would with your own contacts.

Essentially it is to help young

people find work experience. What

about the employers' side of it, how

you can make sure they will provide

good work experience for people?

Yes, good enough work experience -

the children rate the work

experience that they have and if you

provide not great work experience

then you know what to do better. We

provide The Briefing and everything.

So these work experience types for

children this age, you know, try a

project, there are lots of how to

guides so that the business leaders

know confident in what they are

doing. So you think, will this be

meaningful, will it make a

difference? Everyone wants to make a

difference. If you run a small

company, you love the company, so it

provides great experience. It just

gives them role models that allows

them to know what they need to do.

What is the definition of meaningful

work experience, what would you say?

I think one where the young person

knows they made contribution and for

the business I don't want someone

just filing discs like you said, I

would rather a project that you know

will help the company. So to be

about work experience, you know,

what can we do that would be great

for the young person? Have them on

the Monday, present a project on

Friday, and that is a deal with a

beginning, middle and end.

That can

be a lot of work and it can be tough

to get people responsibility if they

are only teenagers.

I don't think it

is tough. There is a lot of things

we can all do. And we know that the

single biggest issue we have a small

business is the talent coming in the

door will stop they don't really

know how to work. If I have someone

coming in from 18 who has had a

summer job and an Easter job and

another one and I know they are far

more thoughtful and they feel

comfortable about what they will do.

I think we all need to lean in and

make a difference here. There is one

point a million children who are 16,

17 or 18, -- 1.8 million people. The

world is changing really fast. So

without helping... I think about

Dunkirk, the move. When you see all

of the soldiers on the beach and you

think, there is no way we can help

them all. But actually what they did

is they got all of the people on the

small boats to come across the

Channel and pick them up. To me,

that is the analogy. Look at the

children on the beach. Let's help

them make the bridge into the world

of work a lot more easily.

Fascinating. I wish we had more

time. That is it for now. That was

really interesting. Thank you. And

good advice.

You're watching And good advice.

Breakfast.

-- You're watching Breakfast.

Still to come this morning:

They've entertained fans for almost

a century and the Pope

and Whoopi Goldberg

are honorary members.

We'll be talking extreme

stunts and slam dunks

with the Harlem Globetrotters

a little later.

until 10am and I will be

back in half an hour.

Hello - this is Breakfast,

with Louise Minchin and Dan Walker.

Theresa May gets the backing

of her cabinet to offer

a bigger Brexit payout.

Senior ministers have agreed that

Britain should offer

more money to the EU,

if it clears the path for trade

talks to begin.

But the Prime Minister is facing

anger from some of her own MPs

who are accusing the EU

of holding the UK to ransom.

Good morning - it's Tuesday

the 21st of November.

Zimbabwe's parliament prepares

to take legal action to force

Robert Mugabe from power.

Early screening for lung cancer.

Doctors say a trial using mobile

scanners in supermarket car parks

has proved a huge success.

I'll be speaking to the boss

of budget airline EasyJet -

about how they're swooping

in on struggling rivals,

after the airline

industry's tough summer.

In sport, could Mike Ashley's days

at Newcastle be numbered

following a formal bid

for the football club?

And it's only November,

but could getting in the festive

mood early help improve

your winter wellbeing?

It's like celebrating joy.

Like, I was so excited

to come to the Christmas

markets this evening.

Christmas trees up

at ridiculous times.

Everyone is waiting to put pictures

of Christmas trees on Facebook.

And Carol has the weather.

You can see the lights

of Regent Street behind me.

It is mild around across

many parts of the UK.

Except Scotland.

Some rain in the north and the West

so that further east you are,

the dry conditions are here but more

details in 15 minutes.

Good morning.

First, our main story.

Theresa May looks set to offer

the EU a bigger divorce bill payment

in return for starting

trade talks next month.

The BBC understands the move

was approved at a meeting of senior

cabinet ministers yesterday.

The UK had been told it

must make more progress

on its financial offer,

if talks are to move

into the next phase.

But political uncertainty

in Germany has complicated

the picture, with Chancellor Angela

Merkel saying she would prefer

new elections rather than lead

a minority government.

It follows a breakdown in coalition

talks, which plunged the country

into political crisis.

We can get the latest on that

from our correspondent,

Alex

Forsyth in Westminster.

Money has been a huge problem. Not

just for the EU which wanted more

but that the UK government. There

were different views about what the

UK needed to pay. To reason they got

some senior figures to thrash out

the government's negotiating

position. We understand there is

broad agreement they should up the

financial offer that only if the EU

agrees to start talking about trade

in transition when they next meet in

December. There is no figure that

has been mentioned in part of the

reason that is deliberate. To reason

they knows that if they pay a

certain amount, that might anger

some MPs in their own backbenchers,

particularly those who are adamant

we shouldn't be paying the European

Union too much. Getting the

agreement from Cabinet might up the

offer that there is this extra layer

of political instability coming from

Germany. That matters because

Germany is influential in the EU. It

is a chance the UK to push the

negotiations forward. Others feel

about the strength and stability of

Angela Merkel, it could affect

things.

Damien McGuinness in Berlin.

The front page of the Times mentions

what Alex said. They say to reason

they needs to exploit Angela

Merkel's political weakness. What is

the situation in Germany?

Right now,

it is political uncertainty. We are

in a state of gridlock. Talks broke

down to the new coalition

government. Today, the German

President is meeting with the

leaders of various parties to

persuade them to get back to the

table. A couple of different

options. Those potential partners,

it could be fresh elections or a

minority government. Neither option

is ideal. She does come out of both

options potentially weakened. The

Brexit connection is interesting.

There is no real direct link in a

sense. Brexit wasn't mentioned

during four weeks of coalition

negotiations between those for

parties. All politicians in Germany

are pretty united on saying that

actually it's Brussels that needs to

deal with the UK. In a sense,

whatever happens on German politics

-- in German politics doesn't have a

direct effect. As Alex mentioned,

what happens in the EU's largest

economy does have an impact on the

broader EU and if anything it could

make Britain's position worse

because it there is a weakened and

divided EU, it might make it more

difficult for Brussels to give

Britain a good deal.

Damien, thank

you. We will discuss this further

with conservative MP Nigel Evans and

Green Party MP Caroline Lucas.

Robert Mugabe is faces

being impeached after refusing

to step down as

President of Zimbabwe.

The country's ruling party, Zanu-PF,

could ask parlimament to begin

the process today.

The 93-year old, who

remains under armed guard

in the Presidential palace,

is accused of allowing his wife

to usurp power and many believe

he is now incapable of governing.

Last night, the military

suggested a plan was emerging

for the transfer of power.

We have made further consultation

with the President to agree

on a roadmap on the prevailing

situation in the country.

The Zimbabwe defence and security

services are encouraged

by new developments which include

conduct between the President

and the former vice-president,

comrade Emmerson Mnangagwa,

who is expected in the country

shortly.

President Trump has announced

that the US is re-designating

North Korea a state sponsor

of terrorism, nine years

after it was removed from the list.

He said the move would

trigger very large

additional sanctions

to be announced later.

Washington's latest and most

anticipate -- anticipated salvo in

its war of words with North Korea,

Donald Trump expected to use

pressure on the regime.

This will

impose further sanctions and

penalties on North Korea and related

persons and supports a maximum

pressure campaign to isolate the

murderous regime.

The President says

this should have been done long time

ago. The is compelling. President

Trump is warning of what he calls

large sanctions. North Korea is

under crippling international

pressure and there is not much more

the US can do. We still hope for

diplomacy. The President's Secretary

of State is holding the door open,

talks are still the preferred way to

end the stand-off. More than two

months since North Korea last

carried out a missile test.

Authorities in South Korea say

further tests could come at any time

but they are not seeing any

tell-tale signs of preparation. This

morning, the government welcomed

Washington's latest move but it

would not halt efforts to get North

Korea back to the moment --

negotiating table. But the regime in

Pyongyang is keeping up its

rhetoric. It called Donald Trump and

old lunatic whose recent visit to

South Korea was all nonsense. Amid

this war of insults and pressure,

it's not clear how or if

negotiations can resume.

Staff employed by an outsourcing

company Cordant are asking

a tribunal to rule that they have

the right to negotiate better terms

and conditions with the University

of London where they work.

If the tribunal agrees

that the university should be

recognised as the workers' joint

employer it could have implications

for more than 3 million

people in the UK who work

for facilities companies.

The university says it doesn't

employ any of the staff.

Unions say the workers

have a strong case.

Young Persons Railcard which -- rail

cards are to be extended to 30

-year-olds. The Chancellor is set to

announce a change in Wednesday's

Budget.

Things didn't go according to plan

for one unfortunate cameraman

waiting to capture the moment

the old Georgia Dome sports stadium

in Atlanta, Georgia was demolished.

He was all set up for the money

shot, when this happened.

You can't see it. At bus pulled up

right in front of the camera.

completely

obscuring his view.

Needless to say he wasn't too happy

- we've bleeped out what he says.

You got to question his positioning?

It's the end of an era

for the stadium, which during its 25

year history, hosted two

Superbowls and an Olympics.

We had a stunning performance in

that Olympics. One solitary gold

medal. Steve Redgrave.

Imagine that

poor cameraman as well.

I think it

was a man, because you could hear

it. He had one chance to get the

shot.

A scheme aimed at detecting lung

cancer earlier is to be extended

to thousands more patients.

NHS England says the use of mobile

scanners at supermarkets

and shopping centres

in Greater Manchester proved

so successful, similar schemes

will now be rolled out to other

parts of the country.

Caroline Rigby has more.

It has saved my life,

definitely saved my life,

because I could have gone maybe two

or three years and it

could have spread everywhere.

Michael Brady was diagnosed

with lung cancer thanks to a project

which offered extra screening

to smokers and former smokers

in some of the poorest

Manchester areas.

In an effort to boost early

detection, patients thought to be

most at risk were given CT

scans in mobile trucks

and supermarkets

at shopping centres.

Lung cancer is the biggest

cancer killer in the UK,

claiming 35,000 lives year.

NHS England says during

the Manchester pilot,

one case was detected every 33

people screened and four out of five

cases were diagnosed early

when the disease is easier to treat.

Similar schemes are being rolled out

in London and the north of England.

Many have welcomed it

but Cancer Research UK warns

there will need to be extra

staff needed if more

lives are to be saved.

Brian Hope is a GP and is with us

now. The papers have said they will

be tests in supermarket car parks.

What they have done in Manchester is

they have piloted and targeted

people or an area that actually has

a very high level of lung cancer. I

think that is important in

screening. Screening is not

diagnosis. It is trying to pick out

a population that will be more at

risk than the general population. I

think that's where this has been

really successful in that one, it's

been accessible for people. We are

the people who don't get screened

are often the people who should get

screened. In cervical cancer

screening, we often don't get it. We

often don't get the 20, 30%.

When we

look specifically at lung cancer

survival rates which is poor in the

UK, is that because the right people

are not being screened?

It's very

positive because we know that if we

catch it early, your chances of

survival are much greater. The

higher up that number you get, the

less survival rate is you get up.

Catching it early is absolutely

critical.

There will be a wider

expansion of these mobile schemes.

What's good as they have pirate --

piloted it. They have proved its

worth. We know that it's actually

going to be effective and that's a

really good thing. Also talking

about an introduction, or extension.

The one we have at the minute, when

you have a screening programme. You

don't have a lot of false positives

and a lot of false negatives. This

new test is a Pacific. If it

positive, it means you definitely

need to do something about it so

looking through the whole system of

the NHS, we are not clogging the

system up with people who have a

false positive. Having tests done

that might not need to be done.

Getting people early, that is one of

the key things in treatment.

We have

screening programmes already. It

means that people are reluctant

because people are frightened by the

word, to come forward and all of us

say, if I don't do anything, it's

the opposite of that. The more we do

get tested appropriately, that gives

a better chance of survival.

So if people go to a supermarket car

So if people go to a supermarket car

park or a shopping centre and they

see these screening areas, is it not

on the door or go in?

I don't think

that is happening. You have to have

an appointment, to be referred or

whatever, because that's what

happens with screening programmes.

People say, why am I not in it? You

have to have a system or else it

gets overloaded and the knock-on

effect to the NHS could be negative.

So there has to be as system of

calling people in and having it done

in an appropriate manner.

Very

interesting, thank you. Let us know

what you think about that.

We have been talking about the

Regents Street Christmas lights,

which they have put up since the

1950s. Here is how it was reported

back in 1957.

The Mayor of

Westminster will switch on one of

London's Christmas displays, the

regions -- Regents Street.

I love

that. Absolutely brilliant. They are

still putting up the lights on

Regents Street. Carroll, the first

to have Christmas lights?

That's

right. Good morning. Lots of others

followed of course and you can see

them behind me and the theme is the

spirit of Christmas. They were

switched on by Paloma Faith, who

will be here at 9:05am, and she will

be with Michael Ball, and of course

Emma Bunton as well. Now, the

weather is lovely and mild across

England, Wales and Northern Ireland.

At the moment, temperatures are

between 11 and 14 degrees. In

Scotland, they are lower with a

range roughly between five and ten.

In parts of the Grampians, they are

as low as freezing. For most of the

day, the forecast is cloudy

as low as freezing. For most of the

day, the forecast is cloudy and mild

and some will see some rain at

times. Some of us already have some

rain. This morning at 9am we have

rain in northern England and

Scotland. There is a lot of dry

weather around. It is breezy today

with a Federal cloud. The cloud is

thick enough for the odd spot of

rain is all. -- with a fair bit of

cloud. We have another band through

the day from the west. If we start

the forecast this afternoon in

Scotland at three o'clock you can

see the rain north of the central

belt moving steadily northwards.

South of that in the southern

uplands and northern England, there

is a lot of cloud and across the

Pennines we also have rain moving

from the west to the east. So at

this stage north-east England has

brighter skies. For the Midlands,

into East Anglia and southern

counties, a lot of cloud. The north

Midlands seeing some spots of rain.

And as we drift to the south-west,

we are looking at the cloud thick

enough for the odd spot of rain, but

nothing too heavy. Then we run into

the rain across Wales, a lot of

cloud, raining all the time, when

not it will be fairly grey, and for

Northern Ireland, to the south this

afternoon, with the spot out of the

cloud. The bright skies north of

England. It will be unseasonably

mild temperatures into the midteens.

. Then into the evening and

overnight you can see the

distinctive banns of rain on the

charts with their heaviest and most

persistent across the north of

Scotland. Here across the Northern

Isles it will be wintry. It is going

to feel cold here and the wind will

be picking up. For the rest of the

UK it is going to be relatively mild

once again in the night with

temperatures in double figures. On

Wednesday, more rain across the

north and west, some of that will be

heavy and persistent, particularly

so across, for example, Snowdonia,

the Cumbrian Fels, we will see large

totals and the other feature is it

will be very windy, particularly so

in the west with exposure and

gusting winds across the south and

the English Channel. Tomorrow,

London could hit 15 Celsius. Then as

we head into Thursday, the rain

clears away from the south-east,

there is a dry spell and then we

have more rain coming in from the

south-west, and at the same time

from the word go there will be some

rain across Scotland falling as no

even down to road level across the

Highlands and also the Grampians,

something to bear in mind if you are

travelling. And you will notice the

cooler conditions filtering that bit

further

cooler conditions filtering that bit

further south, so the very south of

England hangs on by the skin of its

teeth to double-figure temperatures.

OK, thank you very much.

Going to have a look at some of the

front pages of the papers.

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