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Hello, this is Breakfast,

with Dan Walker and Louise Minchin.

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Robert Mugabe clings to power,

as he refuses to stand down

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as President of Zimbabwe.

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In an extraordinary speech live

on TV, in which he had been expected

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to quit, the 93-year-old

instead promised to stay

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on for weeks to come.

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The operation I have alluded to did

not amount to a threat to our world

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cherished constitutional order. Nor

was it a challenge to my authority

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as head of state and government.

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Good morning, it is

Monday 20 November.

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Also this morning: Two

days before the Budget,

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Theresa May sets out a plan

for better transport between English

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cities and their

surrounding suburbs.

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Reducing the number

of stillborn babies.

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Pregnant mums are told that

sleeping on their sides

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could save hundreds of lives.

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70 years since their marriage

at Westminster Abbey,

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the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh

celebrate their platinum wedding

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anniversary with the release

of three new portraits.

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Good morning from this co-op

distribution centre, as we look at

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how retailers are preparing for the

festive period. If analysts are

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correct, it will be a tough one. I

am looking at why.

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In sport: A terrible return

to the Premier League

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for David Moyes, as his West Ham

side are beaten 2-0 by Watford

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in his first match in charge.

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And Carol has the weather.

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Good morning. A fairly cloudy day

ahead. We have some rain and drizzle

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in the west, drifting eastwards,

depositing some snow on the hills

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north of the Central Belt. And for

most of us today it will feel

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milder. I will have more details in

15 minutes.

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The Zimbabwean President,

Robert Mugabe, has shocked

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the nation by refusing widespread

demands for him to stand down.

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Giving a speech live on TV

while under house arrest,

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during which he had been expected

to resign, he instead

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announced his intention to lead

next month's congress

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of the ruling party.

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He has now been given a deadline

of midday today to quit,

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or face action.

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Our Africa editor Fergal

Keane has this report.

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MARIMBA MUSIC.

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The very music seemed designed

to drain any drama out

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of the moment.

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And perhaps the geniality

of the encounter was a giveaway.

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Robert Mugabe didn't look like a man

about to walk into the wilderness.

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And his words, delivered 15 minutes

into a rambling address,

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confirmed that he intended to stay

as leader of the country and party,

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The congress is due

in a few weeks from now.

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I will preside over its processes,

which must not be prepossessed

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by any acts calculated to undermine

it, or to compromise the outcomes

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in the eyes of the public.

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He praised the military

and acknowledged the crisis

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in his country and party.

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This appearance has shocked

Zimbabweans, who were prepared

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to witness his resignation.

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I think we're being played.

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We're being played.

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I feel let down.

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By now we should have produced

some sort of result,

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but we have nothing.

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It's like we are back to square one.

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I think the whole nation

was expecting him to resign,

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and we're all shocked.

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I think people will be

depressed, confused.

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There are big questions now.

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How can Robert Mugabe preside over

a party which today removed him

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from the leadership?

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Once-loyal supporters met to warn

that he would be impeached

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by parliament if he did't step

down from the presidency

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This is the moment when Robert

Mugabe lost power in his own party,

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the party he dominated for so long,

and has now been replaced as party

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leader by a man who was one

of his closest allies for decades.

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The Crocodile...

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The new leader, Emmerson Mnangagwa,

is known as 'the Crocodile,'

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celebrated here for

his ruthless cunning.

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But when it gets his prey...

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He may have agreed to pause,

but he is unlikely to stop

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until he ousts his old comrade.

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We will be speaking to a member

of ZANU-PF about this in just over

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half an hour.

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The Government has announced plans

to transform transport links

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in cities across the UK,

making it easier to get

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from the suburbs to the centre.

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It comes just days before

the Chancellor delivers his first

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Autumn Budget.

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Our political correspondent

Eleanor Garnier joins us

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now from Westminster.

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You really got ascends from the

newspapers and the news over the

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weekend that the Chancellor is under

a lot of pressure --. Ascends.

And

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the prime Minister has a busy day

ahead of her as well, with a budget

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just a few days away. The Prime

Minister and the business Secretary

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will be in the West Midlands,

spelling out some of those plans to

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improve transport links between city

centres and suburbs, all with the

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aim of improving prosperity. Later

on, the Prime Minister will be

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chairing what I think could be a

very significant meeting of the

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Cabinet's Brexit committee. That is

a group of senior ministers who

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decide the government's negotiating

position. We know that in those

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Brexit negotiations money has been a

key sticking point. That is partly

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because the EU and the UK have taken

very different approaches to

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settling the bill. It is also

because the UK has been making sure

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taxpayers here don't pay any more

than they need to. It is also

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because, within the Cabinet, there

has not yet been agreement on the

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way forward when it comes to the

cash. So at that crucial meeting

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today, will those ministers come to

an agreement? As EU politicians

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remind us, time is ticking. I think

we can expect a lively meeting.

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Germany is facing a political crisis

after Angela Merkel's attempts

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to form a three-party

coalition government failed,

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following weeks of negotiations.

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The leaders of the pro-business

Free Democrats unexpectedly pulled

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out of talks last night.

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It represents a serious

setback for Mrs Merkel,

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who during 12 years in power

was seen as a symbol of stable

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government in Europe.

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government in Europe.

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Police say there were no injuries

to suggest any other person

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was involved in the death

of missing teenager Gaia Pope.

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The 19-year-old's body was found

on Saturday in a field near Swanage,

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11 days after she was last seen.

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Dorset Police are treating her

death as unexplained,

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pending toxicology results.

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Today marks the 70th wedding

anniversary of the Queen

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and the Duke of Edinburgh.

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They have been married longer

than any other royal

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couple in history.

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They will celebrate the latest

in their long line of milestones

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privately with family

and friends at Windsor.

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Our royal correspondent

Sarah Campbell reports.

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In the gloom of postwar Britain,

their marriage was, in the words

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of Winston Churchill,

a flash of colour.

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He was the dashing naval officer,

she the future Queen.

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In the 70 years since,

theirs has proved to be

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a relationship which has truly

stood the test of time.

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It's worked because their

personalities and their characters

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complement one another.

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They're quite different,

in many ways, but Prince Philip

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is the first

to make the Queen laugh

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uproariously, and is probably

the only person who can also

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tell her to shut up.

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Pictured in 1939, 18-year-old Philip

first caught Princess Elizabeth's

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eye on a visit to

Dartmouth Naval College.

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It was the beginning

of a friendship which grew

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into a lifelong partnership.

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The Queen has referred to him

as her strength and stay,

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the Duke remarked that tolerance

is essential to any happy marriage

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and the Queen, he added,

has that quality in abundance.

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70 years after the royal couple

exchanged their vows here,

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the bells of Westminster Abbey

will peal for more than three hours

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in their honour.

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These images have been released

by the Palace to mark

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the couple's milestone anniversary.

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The Queen and Prince Philip

will celebrate at a private party

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at Windsor Castle this evening.

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Some breaking news in the last few

minutes. Criminal and former cult

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leader Charles Manson has died in

prison in California. He was 83. His

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followers committed a series of

notorious murders in 1969. Their

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victims included the actress Sharon

Tate, wife of the director Roman

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Polanski, at their home in

Hollywood. Manson himself was

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originally centred to death before

that penalty was abolished in

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California. Instead his sentence was

changed to life in prison. Over the

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course of his life in prison he

applied for parole on 12 separate

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occasions. Last time that took place

in 2012. The parole board said he

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appeared to have not made any effort

to rehabilitate himself. He killed

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no one himself but his followers

carried out those murders on his

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orders and he was convicted of those

murders and sentenced to death in

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1971, which was then commuted to

life in prison.

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Olympic gold-medallist and the chair

of UK Sport Dame Katherine Grainger

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has urged British sports to improve

the welfare of athletes.

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Several governing bodies

are embroiled in bullying

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allegations, and Grainger said

they must rise to the challenge

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of improving

high-performance culture.

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It comes as UK Sport releases

new guidance to coaches and staff

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on how to treat athletes

with more respect.

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And she will be joining us at 8:10

a.m.. We are talking about Platinum

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wedding anniversaries for Her

Majesty, the Queen, but how about

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this.

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We all start out hoping that

marriage will last a lifetime.

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But when you go out and buy your

household appliances together,

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you probably give them

five years, tops.

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But one couple in Exeter are selling

off some whitegoods they bought more

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than 50 years ago,

and they are still in working order.

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Sydney Saunders and his wife,

Rachel, have a tumble-dryer,

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water boiler, cooker,

and washing machine.

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They bought some of them

when they got married in 1956,

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and have been using most

of them ever since.

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We would be interested to hear

from you if you have any appliances

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as old, or even older, than those.

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So, if you have got anything,

get in touch with your stories

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and pictures via e-mail

or on social media.

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I am sure my parents have some

knocking around somewhere. We

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returned to our main story this

morning, news coming in from

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Zimbabwe where Robert Mugabe made a

speech in which he was expected to

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stand down. He said he will stay on

for at least a few weeks while ZANU

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PF, the ruling party, hold a series

of meetings. Let's go to Zimbabwe's

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capital, Harare. What is the latest

that we no?

Well, the latest,

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really, is that that deadline for

Robert Mugabe still stands. From his

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ruling party, ZANU PF, who fired him

as their leader yesterday, they set

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him a deadline of resigning by mid-

day to day local time. That is less

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than four hours' time, and if he

hasn't resigned by then they will

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commence impeachment proceedings

against him. He clearly isn't going

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to resign, he made that rambling

speech last night when most of

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Zimbabwe expected him to say he

would quit. At the end of 20 minutes

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he had not talked about all the

concerns about him at all. It was

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extraordinary, people looked at each

other and said what on earth

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happened to that, because he is just

continuing for a few weeks, at

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least. The deadline stands. The

impeachment process could begin

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tomorrow in the Parliament kindly,

and they would need a two thirds

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majority in both chambers of

Parliament to impeach him.

And we

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will have more reaction to that and

be speaking to somebody from the

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Zanu-PF Party a little later on this

morning, about 6:40 a.m..

You know

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the Times for everything!

I know, I

have memorised them.

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Sport now, and Sally is here.

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I wonder if David Moyes ever looks

back and things I should have stayed

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at Everton in the glory years?

Well,

he does need a challenge.

He was not

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looking entirely happy yesterday in

his new job.

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David Moyes's first game in charge

of West Ham ended in defeat.

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They lost 2-0 at Watford,

with goals in either half

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from Will Hughes and Richarlison.

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West Ham remain in the Premier

League's bottom three.

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Not the best start for David Moyes,

and the fans not happy.

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Chris Coleman is the new

manager of Sunderland.

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Coleman resigned as Wales boss

on Friday and takes over

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the north-east side,

who are bottom of the championship

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after one win in 17 games.

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Has tennis got a new star?

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Grigor Dimitrov wins the world

tour title in London,

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and will finish the year

third in the world.

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The race to Dubai, the contest to be

the European Tour's top golfer,

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goes right down to the final hole,

as England's Tommy Fleetwood beats

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fellow countryman Justin Rose

to take home the trophy

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for the first time.

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He was hugely emotional after that

win, with a lot of lovely pictures

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in the papers today. We will talk

about him and just a moment.

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Let's take a look at what's

happening with the weather.

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Let's take a look at what's

happening with the weather.

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Here's Carol.

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Good morning. We have a mixture of

weather this week coming our way.

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Low pressure will dominate through

the week. Mild conditions. Some

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could hit 15 degrees. There will be

rain and snow at times largely in

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the hills and it will often be windy

from tomorrow. Today we have low

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pressure moving west to east. We

have a band of rain and Rizal. We

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also have south-westerly wind. This

mild air is putting in. It will be

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coldest around Cape Ness and the

Northern Ireland. Across Scotland it

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is a cold start. We have re- moving

west to east, snow on the heels Hill

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-- hills in the north. Across

Northern Ireland and England we have

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a band of rain moving from the west

to the east, not particularly heavy,

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though at times it could be, and

that extends in towards Kent. Behind

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it, there will be a lot of cloud,

but not the temperatures, tens, 11s

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and 12s. Through the day the rain

pushes east and it will be quite

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murky and wet in Scotland, northern

England and Northern Ireland with

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some rain coming in across the

south-west. Any sunshine today will

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be at a premium. If we see it it is

likely in east Wales, Herefordshire

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for example, and the west Midlands.

Temperatures are not worthy because

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in central England at this time of

year the average temperature is

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seven or eight. For some of us it

will continue to climb through the

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week. As we move overnight, we have

rain from today across Scotland and

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another ban comes in behind it

moving west to east. There will be a

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lot of cloud, murky conditions, and

one or two breaks. These are the

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night-time temperatures. You can see

in Scotland it won't be as cold as

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the night that has just gone.

Tomorrow a band of rain continues to

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move north eastwards. A lot of cloud

coming in behind it. And another

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weather front comes from the west,

bringing more rain. But we are still

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in the south-westerly flow. Tomorrow

it will be a windy day wherever you

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are. You will see some gales with

exposure. Look at the temperatures.

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Ten in Aberdeen, 12s, 13s, 14s even

into the south-west. Tuesday to

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Wednesday we have an array of

weather fronts coming our Way and an

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array of low pressure as well, but

behind this, embedded in this area,

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we will see some cold conditions

coming our way. If we look at

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Wednesday, a lot of cloud, windy and

mild, then the cold air comes in

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during the course of Thursday. For

some of us by the time we get to

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Friday there is the chance of some

snow on the hills not just across

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Scotland, at the Pennines and hills

of Wales as well. But that of course

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could change as Friday is a long way

off. Thank you.

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Not as cold as I was expecting it to

be.

I know. Slightly disappointing.

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Not as cold as I was expecting it to

be.

I know. Slightly disappointing.

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I was ready for all of the layers.

I

know. Me too.

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Let's take a look at today's papers.

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If you are wondering, step is out

and about.

I am going to start with

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the Platinum couple. The Queen and

the Duke of Edinburgh. One of these

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three portraits to mark the 70th

anniversary. And lots of papers

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talking about Zimbabwe. Even last

night they were saying Mugabe clings

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on. He was expected to resign in the

TV address but he didn't. The other

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thing is Theresa May may offer more

in the Brexit divorce deal - that is

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being discussed. There is a Cabinet

meeting later today.

The Mirror also

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has a picture of the royal couple.

70 years together in pictures. And

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the UK is vulnerable, it says. And

Ant and Dec...

The programme

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started.

Yes, yesterday. The first

appearance from Ant since going

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through rehab as well. Yes,

absolutely. And they were back to

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their best.

And on the Financial

Times, because death is out, looking

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at Mugabe and Zimbabwe. And talking

about this earlier, this Brexit

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divorce deal earlier, May might set

it higher than first thought.

On the

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front of the Mail, millions spied on

by greedy top universities, spying

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on ex- students in a drive for

donations. And a picture of Alan

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Jones, taken off air over sex

harassment claims -- Aled Jones. He

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says he won't appear on the BBC till

it is sorted out.

The Daily

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Telegraph is similar to the other

papers as well. But at the bottom of

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the newspaper, on their front page,

bargain hunters hope to find

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unbeatable discounts during the

Black Friday shopping frenzy. The

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deals are often no different to

others during the year. I might have

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guessed it.

You mean they are

pulling the wool of our eyes?

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Unbelievable.

The Mirror, lovely

picture of Tommy Fleetwood, here he

0:19:520:19:59

is, and can you just see him and his

wife and baby Frankie, who is seven

0:19:590:20:05

weeks old. Can we just say

congratulations for even being

0:20:050:20:09

there. Of course, Tommy Fleetwood,

he won the Race to Dubai. His baby

0:20:090:20:18

Frankie fast asleep throughout. He

is to get married in a couple of

0:20:180:20:21

weeks. What a year for him. They it

would be great if he goes to

0:20:210:20:27

Hollywood. What, Frankie?

No?

No.

Maybe not.

0:20:270:20:35

LAUGHTER I want to bring your

attention to this.

I will keep

0:20:350:20:39

going, shall I? A picture of Tony

Pulis. Fantastic interview on Radio

0:20:390:20:46

5 Live, he is really talking

straight about his future. I just

0:20:460:20:52

want to bring your attention to

this. Fans expect to see ambition.

0:20:520:20:56

No one goes to the cinema to watch

the news.

They used to.

They used

0:20:560:21:02

to, given a?

In the old days.

Sometimes it is so crazy -- didn't

0:21:020:21:09

they?

I want to show you a bit of

panic in a moment, but one thing,

0:21:090:21:13

the £1 bingo competition was banned

after council accused pensioners

0:21:130:21:19

based on

0:21:190:21:20

after council accused pensioners

based on illegal gambling dens. It

0:21:200:21:22

is true.

0:21:220:21:24

based on illegal gambling dens. It

is true. The Gambling act says you

0:21:240:21:27

cannot participate in bingo it in

towards cash prizes paid for by an

0:21:270:21:31

entry fee.

I can see there are

rules.

Maureen Price is not happy.

0:21:310:21:40

76, great-grandmother, said "It is

stupid. We only play for peanuts. It

0:21:400:21:45

is a bit of fun and it is

disappointing that they won't let us

0:21:450:21:49

do it any more".

I am with them on

that. I agree, yes. Silly.

Anyway,

0:21:490:21:55

yes. Interesting story. Now, we

mentioned Ant and Dec. Strictly.

0:21:550:22:04

Gemma Atkinson will be here as well.

And also Blue Planet. So many people

0:22:040:22:09

in tears. Because of the pilot

whale.

Yes. I am thankful I went to

0:22:090:22:17

bed before this moment. Thank you.

We are going to play a sad piece

0:22:170:22:23

from Blue Planet.

Pilot whales have

big brains. They can certainly

0:22:230:22:30

experience emotions. Judging from

the behaviour of the adults, the

0:22:300:22:38

loss of the infant has affected the

entire family. Unless the flow of

0:22:380:22:51

plastics and industrial pollution

into the world's oceans is reduced,

0:22:510:22:57

marine life will be poisoned by them

for many centuries to come.

Such a

0:22:570:23:06

sad thing. It was to do with

pollution, that is what they

0:23:060:23:09

thought?

Not conclusive proof. That

is what they think. There was a big

0:23:090:23:14

section about plastic and David

Attenborough said 100 years ago we

0:23:140:23:19

invented plastic and now it is

causing issues. It was just really

0:23:190:23:24

moving to see the pilot whale cling

on to its calf. The rest of the pot

0:23:240:23:29

affected by that as well.

The other

interesting thing was about the

0:23:290:23:34

plastic ducks that went over the

side of the container ship. It was

0:23:340:23:38

an experiment. All of the oceans are

interconnected.

It was a 15-year-old

0:23:380:23:42

rubber duck that went around all of

the world's oceans and ended up in

0:23:420:23:47

Scotland.

Amazing.

That is a proper

Kroos, though, isn't it? One other

0:23:470:23:52

thing, which I have lost, OK. Tech

speak helps English rather than

0:23:520:23:59

Harms it. People were moaning about

the use of emojis, irregular

0:23:590:24:04

spelling and abbreviation in text

messages, but they are deaf, not

0:24:040:24:07

sloppy, or a sign of the decline in

written English. So-called textism

0:24:070:24:13

helps to convey meaning in the

absence of conversation, according

0:24:130:24:19

to Hampton University in New York,

they say they often add lols and

0:24:190:24:24

smiley faces to communication for

the sake of clarity of expression.

0:24:240:24:27

Not all bad.

So don't moan at your

kids.

0:24:270:24:31

Women are being advised to sleep

on their side in the last three

0:24:310:24:35

months of pregnancy to avoid

having a stillborn baby.

0:24:350:24:37

A study of just over 1,000 women

found the risk doubles if women go

0:24:370:24:41

to sleep on their backs

in the third trimester.

0:24:410:24:43

Our reporter Ali Fortescue has more.

0:24:430:24:47

I knew something was wrong. I woke

up in the morning and I knew

0:24:470:24:51

something was wrong. And we went to

the hospital and when they couldn't

0:24:510:24:57

find the heartbeat they nipped off

to go and find a doctor, I knew that

0:24:570:25:02

there was something not quite right.

Lots of cards. These are his

0:25:020:25:07

footprints.

Great lost baby Lewy at

35 weeks and she still doesn't know

0:25:070:25:11

what caused her stillbirth.

--

Grace. He was just so tiny, he was

0:25:110:25:18

perfectly formed. He had a beautiful

upper lip. And I think you always

0:25:180:25:24

think about the what-ifs, what if I

did this differently, why has this

0:25:240:25:29

happened? What have I done wrong? A

lot of guilt. Just sadness beyond

0:25:290:25:38

anything that I have ever

experienced.

Grace says she was

0:25:380:25:44

never given any advice on sleep

positions when she was pregnant. She

0:25:440:25:48

is one of around 1000 women to have

taken part in the Midlands and north

0:25:480:25:52

of England stillbirth study, the

largest of its kind. It found that

0:25:520:25:56

one in 225 pregnancies in the UK

ended in stillbirth. That is around

0:25:560:26:01

11 babies a day. It also found that

the risk of stillbirth drops nearly

0:26:010:26:05

4% if women sleep on their site in

the third trimester. That could save

0:26:050:26:11

around 130 live the year in the UK

-- side.

# there were two in the bed

0:26:110:26:17

and the little one said rollover.

The study comes alongside a Charity

0:26:170:26:21

campaign. The advice is simple,

sleeping on your site could halve

0:26:210:26:25

the risk of a stillbirth.

You might

end up in all sorts of positions

0:26:250:26:28

when asleep. But the important thing

to remember is to start on your

0:26:280:26:32

side.

It is hard to know for sure

but it is thought when you like on

0:26:320:26:36

your back you might put weight on

important blood vessels and

0:26:360:26:39

restricting the flow of blood

vessels to the baby. Research has

0:26:390:26:45

shown that the number of stillbirth

in the UK has gone down but the

0:26:450:26:49

figures are still high and above

those in many other high income

0:26:490:26:52

countries.

We want to be one of the

best countries in the world and one

0:26:520:26:56

of the safest places to have a baby.

So there is lots of work to do. This

0:26:560:27:01

study will contribute to that. It

has simple advice to give to women

0:27:010:27:05

to cut the risk of having a

stillbirth.

Grace has now started a

0:27:050:27:08

new chapter. Nine months ago, Rubin

joined the family.

Hearing the baby

0:27:080:27:11

cry in the delivery room was just

amazing.

She will never know what

0:27:110:27:15

would have happened if she had this

advice but Grace hopes her story and

0:27:150:27:19

her part in the study can save

lives.

0:27:190:27:24

And that is really interesting. They

say to sleep on your site because

0:27:240:27:28

you are most likely to stay on your

side for a considerable amount of

0:27:280:27:32

time.

Don't worry if you wake up on

your back.

Yes.

0:27:320:27:36

We'll be speaking to an obstetrician

involved in the study just

0:27:360:27:39

after 8am this morning.

0:27:390:27:40

You can get details of organisations

offering support with the issues

0:27:400:27:43

discussed in that film

at bbc.co.uk/actionline.

0:27:430:27:50

We told you that Steph was in here

for the paper run.

0:27:500:27:53

The run up to Christmas

is traditionally a time

0:27:530:27:55

when shoppers splash the cash,

but there are signs we might be

0:27:550:27:59

planning to spend

a little less this year.

0:27:590:28:01

That is what Steph is investigating

this morning.

0:28:010:28:03

Good morning. Yes, I am in a

distribution centre. You can see

0:28:030:28:08

this truck has just been emptied.

They have something like 3600

0:28:080:28:15

products sent to 260 shops in this

region and 200 people work here

0:28:150:28:20

doing that. As you say, we are here

talking about spending this festive

0:28:200:28:26

period. Analysts are suggesting that

we will spend less this year than in

0:28:260:28:31

the past. If you look at what we are

likely to spend less on, it is

0:28:310:28:36

clothing, travel and big-ticket

household items. The reason why it

0:28:360:28:41

is because of what is happening with

our pay and the fact that prices we

0:28:410:28:46

pay for things are going up faster

than wages. In other words, in real

0:28:460:28:50

terms, we have less money than we

did. If you look at the stats on

0:28:500:28:55

where we are spending the money, one

third of it is spent online rather

0:28:550:28:59

than in shops. I will talk about all

of this little later on. First, the

0:28:590:29:04

news, travel

0:29:040:32:23

rest of the week.

0:32:230:32:24

I'm back with the latest

from the BBC London newsroom

0:32:240:32:26

in half an hour.

0:32:260:32:28

Now, though, it's

back to Dan and Lou.

0:32:280:32:30

Bye for now.

0:32:300:32:31

Hello, this is Breakfast,

with Dan Walker and Louise Minchin.

0:32:320:32:35

It is 6:30am.

0:32:350:32:36

We will bring you all the latest

news and sport in a moment.

0:32:360:32:40

But also on Breakfast this morning:

As the Queen and Prince Philip

0:32:400:32:43

celebrate 70 years of marriage,

Breakfast has been to meet another

0:32:430:32:46

platinum couple, to find out

the secret of staying together

0:32:460:32:49

for seven decades.

0:32:490:32:50

From Olympic legend to one

of the most powerful people

0:32:500:32:53

in British sport -

Dame Katherine Grainger will be

0:32:530:32:55

here to tell us how she will use her

new job to take on sport's

0:32:550:32:59

culture of fear.

0:32:590:33:00

After this week's American Smooth

brought their highest score yet,

0:33:000:33:04

we will be asking Strictly's Gemma

and Aljaz if they can

0:33:040:33:07

dance their way to the top

of the leaderboard.

0:33:070:33:12

Good morning.

0:33:120:33:15

Here is a summary of this morning's

main stories from BBC News:

0:33:150:33:18

The Zimbabwean President,

Robert Mugabe, has defied widespread

0:33:180:33:20

demands that he step down.

0:33:200:33:21

In a highly anticipated

speech to the nation,

0:33:210:33:24

during which he had been expected

to resign, he instead

0:33:240:33:26

announced his intention to lead next

month's congress of the ruling

0:33:260:33:29

Zanu-PF Party, much

to the disappointment of those

0:33:290:33:31

who had gathered to celebrate.

0:33:310:33:38

I think we're being played.

0:33:380:33:39

We're being played.

0:33:390:33:41

I feel let down.

0:33:410:33:44

I think by now we should have

produced some sort of result,

0:33:440:33:48

but we have nothing.

0:33:480:33:48

It's like we're back to square one.

0:33:480:33:52

I think the whole nation

was expecting him to resign.

0:33:520:33:55

I think we're all shocked.

0:33:550:33:59

I think people are going to be

depressed, confused.

0:33:590:34:05

I think it is enough, enough is

enough.

The people of Zimbabwe have

0:34:050:34:12

shown that they are sick of it.

0:34:120:34:23

The American criminal and former

cult leader Charles Manson has died

0:34:230:34:26

in prison in California.

0:34:260:34:27

He was 83.

0:34:270:34:28

Manson's followers committed

a series of notorious

0:34:280:34:29

murders in 1969.

0:34:290:34:30

Their victims included

the actress Sharon Tate,

0:34:300:34:32

wife of the director Roman Polanski,

at her home in Hollywood.

0:34:320:34:35

Manson himself was initially

sentenced to death, before

0:34:350:34:37

the penalty was abolished in

California, as James Cook reports.

0:34:370:34:40

Charles Manson. The name itself is

synonymous with evil, a killer who

0:34:400:34:44

did no killing, but whose crimes

shocked the world. In August 1969,

0:34:440:34:49

followers of his cult broke into the

Hollywood home of Sharon Tate. The

0:34:490:34:54

pregnant actress, who was married to

the director Roman Polanski, was

0:34:540:34:58

brutally murdered along with four of

her friends. The next night, the

0:34:580:35:02

so-called Manson family killed

again, tying up and murdering a

0:35:020:35:07

wealthy couple. This was the

ramshackle mansion, death Valley,

0:35:070:35:10

where Manson lived in a commune with

his young runaway fans. They

0:35:100:35:15

apparently used LSD and saw the

guitar playing ex-convict is a kind

0:35:150:35:20

of saint, or perhaps a devil.

Charles Manson was charged not with

0:35:200:35:24

wielding a knife or firing a gun but

with controlling and directing the

0:35:240:35:27

killers.

I don't accept the court, I

don't accept the whole situation. I

0:35:270:35:34

was in the desert minding my

business. This confusion belongs to

0:35:340:35:39

you. It is your confusion. I don't

have any confusion. I know what I

0:35:390:35:44

have done, and no man can judge me.

I judge me.

What have you done,

0:35:440:35:51

Charlie?

And why had he done it?

Apparently to start a race war. It

0:35:510:35:57

would be called Helter-skelter, and

he would use it to seize power. In

0:35:570:36:02

1971 Manson was sentenced to death

on seven counts of murder, later

0:36:020:36:06

commuted to life in prison. Over the

years, Charles Manson applied for

0:36:060:36:10

parole Time and time again, but he

died a prisoner, having shattered

0:36:100:36:14

the peace and love of the 1960s with

diabolical violence.

0:36:140:36:19

Germany is facing a political

crisis, after Angela Merkel's

0:36:190:36:22

attempts to form a three-party

coalition government failed

0:36:220:36:24

following weeks of negotiations.

0:36:240:36:25

The leaders of the pro-business

Free Democrats unexpectedly pulled

0:36:250:36:28

out of talks last night.

0:36:280:36:29

It represents a serious

setback for Mrs Merkel,

0:36:290:36:31

who during 12 years in power

was seen as a symbol of stable

0:36:310:36:35

government in Europe.

0:36:350:36:40

Police say there were no injuries

to suggest any other person

0:36:400:36:43

was involved in the death

of missing teenager Gaia Pope.

0:36:430:36:45

The 19-year-old's body was found

on Saturday in a field near Swanage,

0:36:450:36:49

11 days after she was last seen.

0:36:490:36:50

Dorset Police are treating her

death as unexplained,

0:36:500:36:53

pending toxicology results.

0:36:530:37:02

Today it is the 70th wedding

anniversary of the Queen

0:37:020:37:05

and the Duke of Edinburgh.

0:37:050:37:06

They have been married longer

than any other royal

0:37:060:37:09

couple in history.

0:37:090:37:09

They are celebrating their platinum

wedding anniversary with the release

0:37:090:37:12

of three new portraits,

and will be spending their day

0:37:120:37:15

with friends and family

privately at Windsor.

0:37:150:37:23

There are pictures of them on most

of the front pages, some very nice

0:37:230:37:28

quotes, as well. 70 is an awfully

long time.

It is, in a good way.

0:37:280:37:35

Congratulations to them. And how

long will David Moyes last in his

0:37:350:37:40

new job?

Hopefully more than one

game.

You never know, maybe we will

0:37:400:37:46

turn him around. It is very early

days, too early to say.

0:37:460:37:51

West Ham remain in the Premier

League's relegation zone,

0:37:510:37:53

after David Moyes lost his

first game in charge.

0:37:530:37:55

They were beaten 2-0 at Watford.

0:37:550:37:57

Watford's goals came in either half,

from Will Hughes and this

0:37:570:38:00

strike from Richarlison.

0:38:000:38:01

Another impressive performance

from Marco Silva's side -

0:38:010:38:03

the Watford boss remains linked

with the vacant manager's

0:38:030:38:06

job at Everton.

0:38:060:38:06

And disappointment for Moyes,

in his 500th Premier League game

0:38:060:38:09

as a manager.

0:38:090:38:16

We made a couple of chances

to get ourselves goals.

0:38:160:38:18

We didn't get them today.

0:38:180:38:20

You know, the goals change games.

0:38:200:38:21

If you get them, you know,

it covers a multitude of sins.

0:38:210:38:24

We didn't take the chances today.

0:38:240:38:26

So we have to play better,

that's what I think.

0:38:260:38:29

I didn't really enjoy

bits of the performance.

0:38:290:38:33

But, if we'd got the goals in,

I think it would have turned things

0:38:330:38:36

around a bit.

0:38:360:38:37

In the Scottish Premiership,

Hearts returned to Tynecastle

0:38:370:38:39

after six months away while the main

stand was redeveloped.

0:38:390:38:42

They could only manage a 1-1 draw

against Partick Thistle,

0:38:420:38:45

though, Kris Doolan's late equaliser

spoiling the home side's day.

0:38:450:38:48

Chris Coleman's new job

after resigning as manager of Wales

0:38:480:38:50

will be to take charge

of Championship side Sunderland.

0:38:500:38:53

They are bottom of the table,

after just one win in 17 matches.

0:38:530:38:56

Coleman has signed a 2.5-year deal

to replace Simon Grayson,

0:38:560:38:59

who was sacked last month.

0:38:590:39:00

He will be in charge for tomorrow

night's game at Aston Villa.

0:39:000:39:04

No Roger Federer, Rafa Nadal

or Andy Murray in the end-of-season

0:39:040:39:07

World Tour Final in London,

but we still got plenty

0:39:070:39:10

of entertainment, and a victory

for Grigor Dimitrov.

0:39:100:39:12

He was up against David Goffin,

in a final few predicted.

0:39:120:39:15

Dimitrov is called Baby Fed,

because his style is like Federer's,

0:39:150:39:18

and he showed off his skill

in the decisive third set.

0:39:180:39:21

He went on to win the biggest

title of his career,

0:39:210:39:24

and in the process,

earn nearly £2 million.

0:39:240:39:37

It has been a tremendous two weeks

for me, honestly. It is such an

0:39:370:39:40

honour to play here. This two weeks

has been one of the best two weeks I

0:39:400:39:48

have ever had. I am lost for words,

I am not going to live. Usually I am

0:39:480:39:53

good at that, but today is just one

of those days.

0:39:530:39:59

The finale to the European golf

season came down to the very last

0:39:590:40:02

hole, but Tommy Fleetwood has won

the race to Dubai for the first

0:40:020:40:06

time, just ahead of fellow

Englishman Justin Rose.

0:40:060:40:08

Rose had started the day

in terrific form.

0:40:080:40:10

But the wheels came off his

round on the 12th hole,

0:40:100:40:13

putting his second

shot into the water.

0:40:130:40:15

Two more mistakes handed

Fleetwood the title.

0:40:150:40:17

He had an anxious wait

before it was confirmed,

0:40:170:40:19

but it has been quite a year

for the 26-year-old from Southport.

0:40:190:40:26

It's been a big one.

0:40:260:40:27

Baby Frankie arriving

safely, and he's great.

0:40:270:40:29

I'm going to get married

in a couple of weeks.

0:40:290:40:34

And yeah, I mean, it's been

the best year of my life,

0:40:340:40:37

by an absolute mile.

0:40:370:40:38

And, you know, on the course,

it's been great.

0:40:380:40:41

I've played some of the best golf

of my career, and done things

0:40:410:40:45

that

I've never done before.

0:40:450:40:49

And, off the course,

I'm just such a happy person.

0:40:490:40:55

So, it's - you know,

we'll have to think

0:40:550:40:58

of ways to better this one.

0:40:580:40:59

Champions Exeter have gone back

to the top of rugby union's

0:40:590:41:02

English Premiership,

but they were made to work for it

0:41:020:41:05

by Harlequins at Sandy Park.

0:41:050:41:06

It wasn't the best performance

from the defending champions,

0:41:060:41:09

but they ended up sealing

a bonus-point win thanks to two

0:41:090:41:12

tries from Jonny Hill.

0:41:120:41:13

That puts them two points

clear of Saracens.

0:41:130:41:15

There were also wins yesterday

for Bath and Leicester.

0:41:150:41:17

It has seemed like a long build-up,

but England have arrived in Brisbane

0:41:170:41:21

ahead of the first Test

at the Gabba, starting on Thursday.

0:41:210:41:24

No Ben Stokes, of course,

as the all-rounder awaits the result

0:41:240:41:27

of the investigation

into an incident outside a Bristol

0:41:270:41:29

nightclub in September.

0:41:290:41:30

The ECB have said Stokes won't join

the tour while he remains

0:41:300:41:33

under police investigation.

0:41:330:41:34

His team-mates, though,

are still hopeful he can play a part

0:41:340:41:37

at some stage.

0:41:370:41:38

It'd be amazing if

Stokesy comes out here.

0:41:380:41:42

I am sure you guys would all think

the same.

0:41:420:41:45

He's a fantastic cricketer.

0:41:450:41:46

We don't know what's

going on at the moment.

0:41:460:41:49

That's completely out of our hands,

and until that's resolved,

0:41:490:41:52

we actually don't know

what is going to happen.

0:41:520:41:57

But I'm sure that it will get

resolved, sooner rather than later,

0:41:570:42:00

we hope, because at the end

of the day, we want the best

0:42:000:42:04

cricketers playing in the Ashes.

0:42:040:42:07

It does feel like quite a long

build-up. Definitely ready for it to

0:42:070:42:12

start.

Are you ready for Christmas?

I am actually really organised. I

0:42:120:42:17

have done a whole lot of wrapping.

Shops, rats and delivered.

Haven't

0:42:170:42:21

shopped. -- shopped, wrapped and

delivered.

Louise has no interest in

0:42:210:42:36

this story.

No, I have spent all my

money and what they are saying,

0:42:360:42:41

Steph, is many people might not.

I

can't believe that. That is made

0:42:410:42:48

that you already have your Christmas

sorted. I need you in my life. Let

0:42:480:42:52

me tell you where I am. I am at a

distribution centre in the

0:42:520:42:57

north-east. It is here you will get

all the products coming out, about

0:42:570:43:01

130 trucks every day bringing

products in, getting organised,

0:43:010:43:04

sending them out again, all over the

region to about 260 shops. Certainly

0:43:040:43:10

a busy operation. The reason we are

here is that at this time of year is

0:43:100:43:15

when these guys get really busy.

John is the divisional director for

0:43:150:43:19

the North, the Co-op. What does it

involve, getting ready for

0:43:190:43:23

Christmas? How much have things

changed for you?

Along with the

0:43:230:43:28

summer, Christmas is our biggest

trading period of the year.

0:43:280:43:32

Customers tend to trade up at

Christmas and buy lots of different

0:43:320:43:35

products. So we have done a lot of

work in terms of building our

0:43:350:43:39

festive ranges and ensuring we are

best placed to serve customers every

0:43:390:43:42

day.

Does it involve getting more

staff? Will this place get busier,

0:43:420:43:50

what does it mean in practical

terms?

Generally we will be busier

0:43:500:43:57

as we get things right for

customers, so exceptionally busy.

0:43:570:44:00

And obviously the reason we are here

is that our statistics out from

0:44:000:44:04

analysts suggesting we will not be

spending as much this Christmas as

0:44:040:44:08

we have done in the past. What does

that mean for you? Do you change the

0:44:080:44:12

way you do things? What does it

mean?

So for us, we are hoping and

0:44:120:44:17

planning to be busy, to have real

growth. So the convenience sector is

0:44:170:44:22

buoyant. Customers are increasingly

busy, and are looking to shop, often

0:44:220:44:31

all the time. We expect to do well

over the course of the period, and

0:44:310:44:35

we plan for a busy festive period.

Thank you very much, we appreciate

0:44:350:44:41

talking to you this morning. It is

important to talk about the bigger

0:44:410:44:44

picture, as well, what it means for

all retailers. And we have Diana

0:44:440:44:48

here. I know we talk a lot about

what is going on in the retail

0:44:480:44:53

world. What do you make of this

stuff from analysts, saying that

0:44:530:44:56

people will not be spending as much

this Christmas?

0:44:560:45:00

All of the data released has been

similar to what we

0:45:000:45:04

All of the data released has been

similar to what we released, and

0:45:040:45:05

Visa saw sales drop in October, and

that is a product of high inflation

0:45:050:45:10

and an interest-rate rise. It is

reflecting what consumers are

0:45:100:45:15

feeling, which is the fact that

household budgets are constrained.

0:45:150:45:19

When we talk about inflation

figures, what it means in real terms

0:45:190:45:23

is people just don't have as much

money because wages haven't been

0:45:230:45:27

keeping up with prices going up.

Absolutely. Our wages are fixed.

0:45:270:45:32

They are going up by minimal

amounts. Yet prices are going up

0:45:320:45:36

more than that. The overall

inflation rate of 3% is average.

0:45:360:45:41

Some products are going up by more

than that. If you are buying those

0:45:410:45:45

products, they are much more

expensive. Inevitably, budgets are

0:45:450:45:51

brought back and something has to

give.

Who are the winners and

0:45:510:45:54

losers?

It is interesting, with the

visa data this perennial and

0:45:540:46:00

increasing demand for experiences is

still continuing. So the restaurant

0:46:000:46:05

chains and eating out venues will

still continue to work because

0:46:050:46:09

people want experiences. We have had

enough of stuff. People will buy

0:46:090:46:13

presents of course but yet they want

to have more eating out and leisure,

0:46:130:46:18

so that will be a winner. Fashion is

really struggling at the moment,

0:46:180:46:22

really having a tough time, and the

visa data reflects what we see with

0:46:220:46:28

sales data, which is fashion is

finding it tough.

And where are we

0:46:280:46:32

spending money, because we have

talked in the past about the growth

0:46:320:46:35

of online. Is it still happening,

are we spending more online?

The

0:46:350:46:39

growth is happening. But it is

slowing. That is inevitable. With

0:46:390:46:44

every new venue and sector, there is

huge growth in the beginning and

0:46:440:46:49

overtime that growth minimises and

levels off. And that is the same

0:46:490:46:53

with online. Yes, it is growing. And

convenience is perfect. We don't

0:46:530:46:57

want to go out to destinations

necessarily and over budget. We do

0:46:570:47:04

that on data, but it is still a

small proportion of the total spend.

0:47:040:47:08

80% is still in store.

Interesting.

Thank you. I just want to take you

0:47:080:47:15

further down here. It is

fascinating. They have 3500

0:47:150:47:19

different products. You can just

imagine. It goes on for miles, all

0:47:190:47:24

of the different shelves of products

going out to around 260 shops in the

0:47:240:47:30

region. 400 people work here. I was

speaking with a lot of them who

0:47:300:47:35

started earlier on. You have the

milk distribution centre as well. A

0:47:350:47:39

really busy time this morning to get

the fresh milk to the shops.

0:47:390:47:43

Certainly a very busy operation. And

it is quite cool as well because of

0:47:430:47:48

energy-saving lights. They come on

when you walk down the aisle to make

0:47:480:47:54

sure it is not wasting energy. I

will be here through the morning to

0:47:540:47:58

talk about how retailers are

preparing for this busy time.

0:47:580:48:00

Although it feels quite spoolily

quiet. You are all on your own. --

0:48:000:48:07

spookily.

Jump around. See you little bit

0:48:070:48:10

later. Thank you. It is 6:48am.

0:48:100:48:14

You're watching

Breakfast from BBC News.

0:48:140:48:16

The main stories this morning:

Zimbabwe's leader Robert Mugabe has

0:48:160:48:19

vowed to stay in power for several

weeks, despite mounting calls

0:48:190:48:22

for him to stand down.

0:48:220:48:30

Charles Manson, notorious head of a

cult which he directed to commit

0:48:300:48:33

nine murders, has died in hospital

aged 83.

0:48:330:48:40

I was thinking of the weather.

I

think you were.

In your revelation,

0:48:400:48:47

almost everybody at Christmas is

ready.

It has thrown new.

I was

0:48:470:48:52

thinking, where is my gift?

Apparently I have been left out. You

0:48:520:48:57

have one.

It is early days.

Bless

you. Yes, Lou has a month to get to

0:48:570:49:04

the shops.

I know where I am on the

list.

0:49:040:49:07

LAUGHTER.

I know that Steph hasn't finished

0:49:070:49:11

either because I haven't sent her my

0:49:110:49:12

I know that Steph hasn't finished

either because I haven't sent her my

0:49:120:49:12

list. Anyway. This morning we have

Christmas like weather, with some

0:49:120:49:19

snow on high ground in Scotland. And

through the week it will be mild.

0:49:190:49:23

Much more mild than we would expect

at the end of November. There will

0:49:230:49:27

be rain and it will be windy,

particularly from tomorrow. What is

0:49:270:49:32

happening today is low pressure is

dominating the weather with a set of

0:49:320:49:35

fronts to bring rain from the west

towards the east and some transient

0:49:350:49:40

snow on the higher routes north of

Central Lowlands and we have some

0:49:400:49:44

south-westerly winds. That is a mild

direction for us. It is pulling all

0:49:440:49:49

of this Atlantic air across most of

the UK except for the far north-east

0:49:490:49:55

of Scotland, Cape Ness and the

Northern Isles, where it is still

0:49:550:49:58

cold. It is cold to start across

Scotland with rain and drizzle

0:49:580:50:01

moving from the west to the east.

Snow on higher ground, slushy areas

0:50:010:50:05

to look out for. And we have rain

moving across Northern Ireland and

0:50:050:50:10

northern England. You can see it

extending down three East Anglia

0:50:100:50:13

into Kent as well. And we are

looking at 8am. Behind it, there

0:50:130:50:20

will be cloud, murky conditions, and

look at the temperatures, tens and

0:50:200:50:24

11s, which would be good maximum

temperatures at this time of year.

0:50:240:50:28

Through the day the rain continues

out of Northern Ireland, across

0:50:280:50:32

Scotland, Northern Ireland, cloud

behind it, showers, south-westerly

0:50:320:50:36

winds moving in. Any sunshine will

be are likely. If you see it, most

0:50:360:50:43

places likely in eastern Wales

around Herefordshire and the west

0:50:430:50:46

Midlands. Temperatures range from

six to 13 degrees. You can see how

0:50:460:50:52

the north-east Scotland is looking,

it still cold at this stage. Through

0:50:520:50:56

this evening and overnight, there

will be a lot of cloud around. We

0:50:560:51:00

have today's rain across Scotland, a

fresh band coming in moving

0:51:000:51:04

north-east was through the course of

the night, leaving cloud in its

0:51:040:51:08

wake. Still, south-westerly wind,

still mild, but now it is pushing

0:51:080:51:13

northwards across a large chunk of

Scotland, except for the Northern

0:51:130:51:17

Isles. Tomorrow we start off with

all of the rain, still moving

0:51:170:51:21

north-east was, still a lot of cloud

around, still the south-westerly

0:51:210:51:24

wind, then another weather front the

west. In between these fronts we

0:51:240:51:32

have a warm sector and you will see

temperature-wise, well, 12s, 13s,

0:51:320:51:36

even in the Northern Isles,

temperatures start to creep up. So

0:51:360:51:39

on Wednesday there is an array of

low pressures and weather fronts,

0:51:390:51:43

with a cold front here. There will

be some cold conditions following

0:51:430:51:47

behind. For the end of the week, the

forecasts we are looking at is

0:51:470:51:53

Wednesday, a lot of cloud and mild

weather, rain coming in, then the

0:51:530:51:58

cold front comes in, things turned

chilly apart from in the south, and

0:51:580:52:02

the other thing is on Friday we will

all feel the draft. And we could see

0:52:020:52:07

some snow on the hills as far south

as Wales, but of course it is a long

0:52:070:52:12

way off and it could still change.

So some

0:52:120:52:14

way off and it could still change.

So some Christmas like weather here

0:52:140:52:15

and there.

You promised some sort of

Christmas like weather. Thank you

0:52:150:52:19

very much.

Pleasure. Let's return to

our top story.

0:52:190:52:24

Zimbabwe's embattled leader

Robert Mugabe has vowed to stay

0:52:260:52:29

in power, despite mounting calls

for him to stand down.

0:52:290:52:31

In a televised address,

he said he intends to lead next

0:52:310:52:34

month's congress of

the ruling party, Zanu-PF.

0:52:340:52:36

Yesterday, he was sacked

as its leader and told he has

0:52:360:52:39

until 10am today to resign,

or face impeachment.

0:52:390:52:41

Let's speak now to Zimbabwean

journalist Georgina Godwin

0:52:410:52:43

and Zanu-PF's UK

representative Nick Mangwana.

0:52:430:52:45

Good morning and thank you for

joining us. Step back at it, this

0:52:450:52:51

televised address, many said they

were expecting him to stand down

0:52:510:52:55

gracefully. That is not what

happened.

It didn't happen and

0:52:550:52:59

everyone watching around the world

was stunned. I think that the army

0:52:590:53:03

knew what he would say and

sanctioned what he would say. There

0:53:030:53:08

were suggestions that maybe he read

from a speech, swapped pages. I

0:53:080:53:12

don't think that happened. The army

wanted to give him a dignified

0:53:120:53:15

excerpts. The problem is a

disconnect between the army and the

0:53:150:53:20

party. And I think that there has

not been sufficient communication.

0:53:200:53:24

The party has said they want to

impeach him. War veterans have been

0:53:240:53:28

aggressive in language and they

might take the fight to the streets.

0:53:280:53:31

It is very difficult. What happens

now with the impeachment is that

0:53:310:53:36

parliament will meet and, of course,

many parliamentarians have been

0:53:360:53:42

expelled because they were part of

Grace Mugabe G40 group. It is

0:53:420:53:50

step-by-step, it will take possibly

weeks. They will need the opposition

0:53:500:53:56

to vote with them to make up the two

thirds majority that is needed. This

0:53:560:54:00

is the one chance that we, as

Zimbabweans have, in the great

0:54:000:54:08

March, the ringing endorsement of

Zanu-PF and the army, the people

0:54:080:54:11

that have oppressed us for 37 years,

we did not say it at any point, what

0:54:110:54:17

we really need is electoral reform

and we need to completely change the

0:54:170:54:21

way that the security forces work.

Now, the opposition have a window to

0:54:210:54:26

do that during this impeachment

process.

How long a road is it from

0:54:260:54:32

Mugabe being taken from power and

then free elections? Does it seem

0:54:320:54:36

like a long way away for you, a long

way off?

The elections have to take

0:54:360:54:42

place within five years, which means

August 2018. Zanu-PF and the army

0:54:420:54:48

are in such disarray that is not

possible. They would have to be

0:54:480:54:53

constitutional tinkering. There will

be a transitional body. It depends

0:54:530:54:56

how long that hangs on. White that

is an extraordinary length of time,

0:54:560:55:01

really, isn't it, five years.

You

say that is the earliest?

0:55:010:55:06

By-election has to take place five

years after the last one, so August

0:55:060:55:10

2018, but it will have to be

extended.

We have seen people out on

0:55:100:55:15

the street. They were celebrating.

How dangerous is the situation right

0:55:150:55:19

now?

There are a couple of

flashpoints we need to be careful

0:55:190:55:24

of. The General, does he have

support of the rank and file? Are

0:55:240:55:32

they angry he has made a deal with

Mugabe? Are the people angry. Mugabe

0:55:320:55:37

says he would abide by the people.

The people have spoken. I think we

0:55:370:55:41

as Zimbabweans are very peaceful. A

flashpoint is unlikely. We have to

0:55:410:55:48

look at the regional bodies, the

African Union. The language has been

0:55:480:55:52

very careful. That it is not a coup.

That is so that there are no boots

0:55:520:55:58

on the ground from the regions. We

hope. And then of course the last

0:55:580:56:03

thing is China, who are bankrolling

Zimbabwe to an enormous degree. This

0:56:030:56:08

could not have happened without

their say so. And V NDC have this

0:56:080:56:16

window because I think unless they

do something to open the economy,

0:56:160:56:20

which means Zimbabwe is a stable

place to invest, then they will lose

0:56:200:56:26

China and the economy will totally

collapse.

Thank you very much for

0:56:260:56:31

coming to talk to us. I imagine we

will talk to you again.

Thank you.

0:56:310:56:35

And the big day. That deadline is

10am, so we will follow that

0:56:350:59:58

I'm back with the latest

from the BBC London newsroom

0:59:581:00:01

in half an hour.

1:00:011:00:02

Plenty more on our website

at the usual address.

1:00:021:00:03

Hello, this is Breakfast,

with Dan Walker and Louise Minchin.

1:00:331:00:38

Robert Mugabe clings to power,

as he refuses to stand down

1:00:381:00:41

as President of Zimbabwe.

1:00:411:00:42

In an extraordinary speech live

on TV, in which he had been expected

1:00:421:00:45

to quit, the 93-year-old

instead promised to stay

1:00:451:00:48

on for weeks to come.

1:00:481:00:52

The operation I have alluded

to did not amount to a threat

1:00:521:00:58

to our well-cherished

constitutional order.

1:00:581:01:04

Nor was it a challenge

to my authority as head

1:01:041:01:07

of state and government.

1:01:071:01:12

Good morning, it is

Monday 20 November.

1:01:221:01:25

Also this morning: Reducing

the number of stillborn babies.

1:01:251:01:27

Pregnant mums are told that

sleeping on their sides

1:01:271:01:30

could save hundreds of lives.

1:01:301:01:33

Charles Manson, the notorious head

of an American cult he directed to

1:01:331:01:37

carry out a series of murders, has

died in hospital aged 83.

1:01:371:01:45

70 years since their marriage

at Westminster Abbey,

1:01:451:01:48

the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh

celebrate their platinum wedding

1:01:481:01:51

anniversary with the release

of three new portraits.

1:01:511:02:01

Good morning from this Co-op

distribution centre, where today we

1:02:011:02:05

are looking at how retailers prepare

for the festive period. According to

1:02:051:02:10

the analysts, it is going to be a

tough one for them. I will be

1:02:101:02:14

looking at why.

1:02:141:02:15

In sport: A terrible return

to the Premier League

1:02:151:02:17

for David Moyes, as his West Ham

side are beaten 2-0 by Watford

1:02:171:02:21

in his first match in charge.

1:02:211:02:22

And Carol has the weather.

1:02:221:02:28

Good morning. It is a fairly cloudy

day ahead. We have some rain and

1:02:281:02:32

drizzle moving from the west towards

the east, with some snow on hills in

1:02:321:02:38

Scotland, north of the Central Belt.

For most of us, it is going to be

1:02:381:02:42

unseasonably mild. I will have more

details in around 15 minutes.

1:02:421:02:47

The Zimbabwean President,

Robert Mugabe, has shocked

1:02:471:02:49

the nation by refusing widespread

demands for him to stand down.

1:02:491:02:51

Giving a speech live on TV

while under house arrest,

1:02:511:02:54

during which he had been expected

to resign, he instead

1:02:541:02:57

announced his intention to lead

next month's congress

1:02:571:02:59

of the ruling party.

1:02:591:03:00

He has now been given a deadline

of midday today to quit

1:03:001:03:04

or face action.

1:03:041:03:04

Our Africa editor Fergal

Keane has this report.

1:03:041:03:15

MARIMBA MUSIC.

1:03:151:03:16

The very music seemed designed

to drain any drama out

1:03:161:03:19

of the moment.

1:03:191:03:20

And perhaps the geniality

of the encounter was a giveaway.

1:03:201:03:24

Robert Mugabe didn't look like a man

about to walk into the wilderness.

1:03:241:03:28

And his words, delivered 15 minutes

into a rambling address,

1:03:281:03:31

confirmed that he intended to stay

as leader of the country and party.

1:03:311:03:36

The congress is due

in a few weeks from now.

1:03:361:03:42

I will preside over its processes,

which must not be prepossessed

1:03:421:03:52

by any acts calculated to undermine

it, or to compromise the outcomes

1:03:521:03:55

in the eyes of the public.

1:03:551:04:04

He praised the military

and acknowledged the crisis

1:04:041:04:06

in his country and party.

1:04:061:04:08

This appearance has shocked

Zimbabweans, who were preparing

1:04:081:04:10

to witness his resignation.

1:04:101:04:14

I think we're being played.

1:04:141:04:17

We are being played.

1:04:171:04:18

I feel let down.

1:04:181:04:19

I think by now we should have

produced some sort of result,

1:04:191:04:22

but we have nothing.

1:04:221:04:23

It's like we're back to square one.

1:04:231:04:25

I think the whole nation

was expecting him to resign.

1:04:251:04:28

I think we're all shocked.

1:04:281:04:29

I think people are going to be

depressed, confused.

1:04:291:04:32

There are big questions now.

1:04:321:04:33

How can Robert Mugabe preside over

a party which today removed him

1:04:331:04:36

from the leadership?

1:04:361:04:39

Once-loyal supporters met to warn

that he would be impeached

1:04:391:04:41

by parliament if he did't step down

from the presidency.

1:04:411:04:46

This is the moment when Robert

Mugabe lost power in his own party,

1:04:461:04:51

the party he dominated for so long,

and has now been replaced as party

1:04:511:04:54

leader by a man who was one

of his closest allies for decades.

1:04:541:05:01

A Crocodile...

1:05:011:05:02

The new leader, Emmerson Mnangagwa,

is known as 'the Crocodile,'

1:05:021:05:05

celebrated here for

his ruthless cunning.

1:05:051:05:07

But when it gets his prey...

1:05:071:05:11

He may have agreed to pause,

but he is unlikely to stop

1:05:111:05:14

until he ousts his old comrade.

1:05:141:05:27

The American criminal and former

cult leader Charles Manson has died

1:05:271:05:30

in prison in California.

1:05:301:05:31

He was 83.

1:05:311:05:32

Manson's followers committed

a series of notorious

1:05:321:05:34

murders in 1969.

1:05:341:05:37

Their victims included

the actress Sharon Tate,

1:05:371:05:40

wife of director

Roman Polanski, at her

1:05:401:05:42

home in Hollywood.

1:05:421:05:43

Manson himself was initially

sentenced to death, before

1:05:431:05:45

the penalty was abolished in

California, as James Cook reports.

1:05:451:05:48

Charles Manson - the name itself

is synonymous with evil,

1:05:481:05:52

a killer who did no killing,

but whose crimes shocked the world.

1:05:521:05:56

In August 1969, followers

of his cult broke into the Hollywood

1:05:561:05:59

home of Sharon Tate.

1:05:591:06:04

The pregnant actress,

who was married to the director

1:06:041:06:06

Roman Polanski, was brutally

murdered, along with four

1:06:061:06:08

of her friends.

1:06:081:06:11

The next night, the so-called

Manson Family killed again,

1:06:111:06:13

tying up and murdering

a wealthy couple.

1:06:131:06:23

This was the ramshackle ranch

in Death Valley where Manson lived

1:06:231:06:26

in a commune with his

young, runaway fans.

1:06:261:06:28

They apparently used LSD,

and saw the guitar playing

1:06:281:06:30

ex-convict as a kind of saint,

or perhaps a devil.

1:06:301:06:33

Charles Manson was charged not

with wielding a knife or firing

1:06:331:06:36

a gun, but with controlling

and directing the killers.

1:06:361:06:40

I don't accept the court,

I don't accept the whole situation.

1:06:401:06:45

Like, I was in the desert,

minding my business.

1:06:451:06:47

This confusion belongs to you.

1:06:471:06:53

It's your confusion.

1:06:531:06:54

I don't have any confusion.

1:06:541:06:58

I don't have any guilt.

1:06:581:07:00

I know what I've done,

and no man can judge me.

1:07:001:07:03

I judge me.

1:07:031:07:04

What have you done, Charlie?

1:07:041:07:05

And why had he done it?

1:07:051:07:07

Apparently to start a race war.

1:07:071:07:08

It would be called Helter-Skelter,

and he would use it to seize power.

1:07:081:07:12

In 1971, Manson was sentenced

to death on seven counts of murder,

1:07:121:07:15

later commuted to life in prison.

1:07:151:07:17

Over the years, Charles Manson

applied for parole time

1:07:171:07:20

and time again.

1:07:201:07:24

But he died a prisoner,

having shattered the peace and love

1:07:241:07:27

of the 1960s with

diabolical violence.

1:07:271:07:29

Let's get the very latest on this

story from our LA reporter Peter

1:07:291:07:33

Bowes.

1:07:331:07:37

Thank you very much for your time

this morning. He always wanted to be

1:07:371:07:42

a famous rockstar. You know, we are

talking about him now, and this name

1:07:421:07:48

many years on still causes so many

painful memories for so many people.

1:07:481:07:53

It certainly does, and strikes fear

through the heart of those people

1:07:531:07:58

who lived through that time in the

late 1960s. 1969 it was when the

1:07:581:08:03

killings were carried out, and for a

brief period before the killers were

1:08:031:08:07

caught and eventually taken to

court, people in this town of Los

1:08:071:08:11

Angeles were terrified. The gruesome

nature of those killings, Sharon

1:08:111:08:15

Tate, and of course the other four

people in her home who were stabbed,

1:08:151:08:20

and over are two night period the

next night, apparently choosing a

1:08:201:08:25

random the home of a wealthy couple

in the heart of Los Angeles, and

1:08:251:08:32

they were brutal killings as well.

Some people remember those days with

1:08:321:08:36

a tremendous amount of fear, and the

trial was the longest trial in

1:08:361:08:40

American history at that time, full

of drama. And, as we have just been

1:08:401:08:44

hearing in games's report, all the

parole hearings that he has appeared

1:08:441:08:51

out over the years, once again

reviving memories for people who

1:08:511:08:54

lived through those times -- James's

report.

Peter, thank you very much.

1:08:541:09:01

Peter reflecting on the news that

Charles Manson has died at the age

1:09:011:09:04

of 83.

1:09:041:09:08

The Government has announced plans

to transform transport links

1:09:081:09:10

in cities across the UK,

making it easier to get

1:09:101:09:13

from the suburbs to the centre.

1:09:131:09:15

It comes just days before

the Chancellor delivers his first

1:09:151:09:19

Autumn Budget.

1:09:191:09:20

Our political correspondent

Eleanor Garnier joins us

1:09:201:09:22

now from Westminster.

1:09:221:09:24

Another essential day ahead.

That's

right, and it could be a pretty

1:09:241:09:29

significant meeting of this Brexit

Cabinet committee. It is basically a

1:09:291:09:34

group of senior ministers who decide

the government's negotiating

1:09:341:09:37

position. And we know that part of

the sticking point with Brussels in

1:09:371:09:42

these Brexit negotiations is muggy.

That is partly because the EU and

1:09:421:09:46

the UK have taken different

approaches to settling the bill. It

1:09:461:09:49

is also partly because the UK has

been pushing back to make sure

1:09:491:09:53

taxpayers here do not pay any more

than they need to. But it is also

1:09:531:09:57

because, so far, the Cabinet has not

yet agreed on a way forward when it

1:09:571:10:01

comes to the cash. So when these

ministers get together with the

1:10:011:10:05

Prime Minister later on, will they

be able to come to an agreement?

1:10:051:10:10

Well, as EU politicians continuously

point out, the clock is ticking. So

1:10:101:10:13

the pressure is certainly on, and it

is a busy day for the Prime

1:10:131:10:19

Minister. She will be in the West

Midlands with the Chancellor,

1:10:191:10:23

highlighting plans to improve

transport links between cities and

1:10:231:10:26

suburbs, all with the aim of

improving productivity.

1:10:261:10:38

Germany is facing a political

crisis, after Angela Merkel's

1:10:381:10:41

attempts to form a three-party

coalition government failed

1:10:411:10:43

following weeks of negotiations.

1:10:431:10:44

The leaders of the pro-business

Free Democrats unexpectedly pulled

1:10:441:10:46

out of talks last night.

1:10:461:10:48

It represents a serious

setback for Mrs Merkel,

1:10:481:10:52

who during 12 years in power

was seen as a symbol of stable

1:10:521:10:55

government in Europe.

1:10:551:11:05

Today it is the 70th wedding

anniversary of the Queen

1:11:051:11:07

and the Duke of Edinburgh.

1:11:071:11:09

They have been married longer

than any other royal

1:11:091:11:11

couple in history.

1:11:111:11:12

They are celebrating their platinum

wedding anniversary with the release

1:11:121:11:15

of three new portraits,

and will be spending their day

1:11:151:11:17

with friends and family

privately at Windsor.

1:11:171:11:19

Our royal correspondent

Sarah Campbell reports.

1:11:191:11:21

In the gloom of postwar Britain,

their marriage was, in the words

1:11:211:11:24

of Winston Churchill,

a flash of colour.

1:11:241:11:26

He was the dashing naval officer,

she the future Queen.

1:11:261:11:29

In the 70 years since,

theirs has proved to be

1:11:291:11:31

a relationship which has truly

stood the test of time.

1:11:311:11:36

It's worked because their

personalities and their characters

1:11:361:11:43

complement one another.

1:11:431:11:45

They're quite different,

in many ways, but Prince Philip

1:11:451:11:47

is the first to make

the Queen laugh uproariously,

1:11:471:11:50

and is probably the only person

who can also tell her to shut up.

1:11:501:11:54

Pictured in 1939, 18-year-old Philip

first caught Princess Elizabeth's

1:11:541:12:02

eye on a visit to

Dartmouth Naval College.

1:12:021:12:04

It was the beginning

of a friendship which grew

1:12:041:12:07

into a lifelong partnership.

1:12:071:12:12

The Queen has referred to him

as her strength and stay.

1:12:121:12:15

the Duke remarked that tolerance

is essential to any happy marriage,

1:12:151:12:18

and the Queen, he added,

has that quality in abundance.

1:12:181:12:20

70 years after the royal couple

exchanged their vows here,

1:12:201:12:23

the bells of Westminster Abbey

will peal for more than three hours

1:12:231:12:27

in their honour.

1:12:271:12:27

These images have been released

by the Palace to mark

1:12:271:12:30

the couple's milestone anniversary.

1:12:301:12:31

The Queen and Prince Philip

will celebrate at a private party

1:12:311:12:34

at Windsor Castle this evening.

1:12:341:12:49

Some lovely quotes from the front

pages. Prior to the wedding, Prince

1:12:491:12:53

Philip told the Queen Mother he had

fallen in love completely with her

1:12:531:12:57

daughter. Philip once remarked my

job, first, second and last, is

1:12:571:13:01

never too late the Queen down.

70

years, quite something.

1:13:011:13:09

The President of Zimbabwe,

Robert Mugabe, has defied demands

1:13:091:13:12

from the army and his

own party to step down.

1:13:121:13:14

In an address to the nation last

night, the 93-year-old made no

1:13:141:13:18

mention of a resignation,

even though the ruling Zanu-PF Party

1:13:181:13:20

has given him until 10:00am

today to hand over power

1:13:201:13:23

or face impeachment.

1:13:231:13:26

Our correspondent Ben Brown

is in the country's capital,

1:13:261:13:28

Harare, for us.

1:13:281:13:29

What has the reaction been?

1:13:291:13:34

So many people expecting him to

perhaps stand down, and that is not

1:13:341:13:38

what he did.

Good morning, Louise. A

huge sense of disappointment and

1:13:381:13:43

anger, really, among many

Zimbabweans who watch that speech

1:13:431:13:47

last night, just assuming he was

finally going to resign. Especially

1:13:471:13:52

after being sacked by his own ZANU

PF ruling party. This is the

1:13:521:13:56

headline in one of the newspapers

this morning, Louise, arrogant

1:13:561:14:00

Mugabe disregards ZANU PF and says

he is going nowhere. Let's get some

1:14:001:14:06

reaction now from one of the

opposition members of Parliament.

1:14:061:14:12

James is from the opposition party

in Zimbabwe. What was your reaction

1:14:121:14:17

when you saw the speech last night?

There is nothing Mugabe said which I

1:14:171:14:22

did not expect. You must know the

system in ZANU PF of entitlement and

1:14:221:14:27

impunity. So that was entitlement

and impunity at play.

Are you angry

1:14:271:14:32

he has refused to resign, despite

all this pressure, the

1:14:321:14:36

demonstrations we saw here?

I am

angry he remains president, because

1:14:361:14:41

his sell by date was in the year

2000, when he lost to the opposition

1:14:411:14:45

party, and again he lost in 2002,

2005 and 2008. So President Mugabe

1:14:451:14:51

has no business, or status.

We

gather there will be an impeachment

1:14:511:14:57

process if he doesn't resign in the

next few hours. Tell us about that.

1:14:571:15:01

How long would that take, to impeach

him?

1:15:011:15:06

It depends how fast parliament

moves. It could take a few months.

1:15:061:15:09

The beauty ease it is a process

provided for in the Constitution

1:15:091:15:16

section 90 seven. It is the only

hope for the country that the

1:15:161:15:19

President is removed in terms of

that section of the Constitution.

1:15:191:15:24

What about the people, we saw

thousands demonstrating over the

1:15:241:15:28

weekend on the streets behind us.

They were euphoric. They thought

1:15:281:15:32

Robert Mugabe was on the verge of

going. Do you think there will be

1:15:321:15:36

more demonstrations now he is

refusing to resign?

I'm not sure

1:15:361:15:39

about that but what you saw was an

expression of the anger people have

1:15:391:15:45

had over the years. It might

surprise someone like you that there

1:15:451:15:50

was all of that euphoria. It doesn't

surprise a person like me. People

1:15:501:15:55

have wanted President Mugabe to go

since 2000, when we started voting

1:15:551:16:01

for the MDCT.

Mugabe, the oldest

head of state at 93, and it looks

1:16:011:16:07

like he could still be around, as

you have said, for at least a couple

1:16:071:16:11

of weeks or months even.

What we

must now tell Zimbabwe is that the

1:16:111:16:17

removal of Mugabe must follow due

process. We want to go to

1:16:171:16:25

constitutionalism. That is what the

community expects us to do. And we

1:16:251:16:29

must follow the Constitution. The

best way to do it is either

1:16:291:16:33

President Mugabe resigns by

notifying the Speaker of parliament

1:16:331:16:38

in terms of 96 section one of the

Constitution, he informs the Speaker

1:16:381:16:42

of parliament, or he is removed by

impeachment.

Thank you very much for

1:16:421:16:48

being with us, opposition MP here in

Harare, capital Zimbabwe. The

1:16:481:16:58

impeachment proceedings might take

time, and against all of the

1:16:581:17:01

pressure from the people, his own

party and the army, Robert Mugabe is

1:17:011:17:06

still technically President of this

country, even though,

1:17:061:17:10

extraordinarily, he is still

technically under house arrest after

1:17:101:17:14

the military takeover.

Yes,

extraordinary times. Thank you very

1:17:141:17:17

much indeed.

1:17:171:17:18

You're watching

Breakfast from BBC News.

1:17:181:17:20

The main stories this morning:

1:17:201:17:24

That is where we start, the

embattled President Robert Mugabe is

1:17:241:17:30

facing a deadline set by his own

party to resign after a surprise

1:17:301:17:34

speech where he refused to stand

down. Charles Manson, notorious head

1:17:341:17:40

of a cold, which he directed to

commit nine murders, has died in

1:17:401:17:44

hospital aged 83. We will have more

on that news about Charles Manson

1:17:441:17:52

with the man who wrote a very

interesting book about his life and

1:17:521:17:55

times as well.

1:17:551:17:56

Time now to take a look at this

morning's weather with Carol.

1:17:561:17:59

That is a very nice

1:17:591:18:00

That is a very nice picture, a bit

of splashing about in the mud.

Yes,

1:18:001:18:03

it is a cracker. For some of us we

have some rain. And the forecast is

1:18:031:18:08

quite unsettled. One thing you will

notice is it is going to be mild

1:18:081:18:12

through the course of the day and

for some it is already miles.

1:18:121:18:16

Tomorrow it will be windy offence.

Quite strong wind as well. Today low

1:18:161:18:20

pressure is dominating the weather

with fronts moving west to east,

1:18:201:18:24

taking rain with it. Snow on the

Scottish hills. Look at this heat

1:18:241:18:29

coming from the Atlantic.

South-westerly winds, which for us

1:18:291:18:32

is a mild direction, as indicated in

yellow here. It moves across the

1:18:321:18:37

British Isles, except for the

north-east of Scotland, where it is

1:18:371:18:40

still cold and away from the west of

Scotland it is a cold start with

1:18:401:18:45

rain, snow on the hills north of the

Central Lowlands, so some slushy

1:18:451:18:49

weather on the high routes and rain

moving across Northern Ireland and

1:18:491:18:52

northern England this morning. Here

we are already into the high

1:18:521:18:55

temperatures as you can see. In the

west, 11 and 12s. That rain will

1:18:551:19:00

move east through the morning. It

will leave a lot of clout behind it,

1:19:001:19:06

some murky conditions, damp and

drizzly weather, but nothing wrong

1:19:061:19:08

with those temperatures for this

time of November. Through the day we

1:19:081:19:11

hang onto a lot of rain across

northern England and Scotland. It

1:19:111:19:15

will be particularly heavy. -- it

won't be particular heavy. This

1:19:151:19:20

noble fate and wrangle will turn

later and then showers across Wales

1:19:201:19:23

coming in. Some brightness across

parts of east Wales, Herefordshire,

1:19:231:19:31

the west Midlands, for example.

Temperatures above where they should

1:19:311:19:33

be at the state in November. The

average is seven or eight. We are

1:19:331:19:37

looking at 13s. The tempo to will

continue to climb. Across Scotland,

1:19:371:19:42

three in the Northern Isles, and

about seven. Those temperatures will

1:19:421:19:46

also climb. Through this evening and

overnight rain rejuvenates across

1:19:461:19:51

Scotland. We have a band coming from

the south-west moving north

1:19:511:19:54

eastwards. This south-westerly wind,

this cloud and murky weather. Look

1:19:541:20:00

at the temperatures now. Even at

night across the north of the

1:20:001:20:03

country we are looking at

temperatures higher than they

1:20:031:20:06

currently are. As we move through

tomorrow we still have the rainbows

1:20:061:20:10

in north eastwards. Then later in

the day we have a new band of rain

1:20:101:20:14

coming in across Northern Ireland,

fringing into western parts of the

1:20:141:20:18

UK. A feature of tomorrow's weather

will be the wind. It will be quite

1:20:181:20:23

windy. In the west in exposed areas

we are looking at some gales.

1:20:231:20:27

Temperatures climbing up. 10 degrees

in Aberdeen. 14 in Plymouth and St

1:20:271:20:32

Helier. As we head into the end of

the week, low pressure is driving

1:20:321:20:37

the weather and we have a cold front

putting in an appearance. Behind

1:20:371:20:40

that we see a return to some cooler

conditions. So to translate that

1:20:401:20:44

onto the charts, on Wednesday it is

still cloudy, still very mild for

1:20:441:20:50

the time of year, but it is turning

cooler on Thursday.

Thank you very

1:20:501:20:54

much.

1:20:541:20:55

Let's take you back to the story

that has been breaking over the last

1:20:581:21:02

hour. The notorious cult leader

Charles Manson, convicted of the

1:21:021:21:06

murder of nine people, has died in

prison. Geoff Quinn wrote a

1:21:061:21:11

biography about Charles and joins us

from Texas on the phone. Thank you

1:21:111:21:15

for coming on the programme. So,

reacting to the news Charles Manson

1:21:151:21:20

has died at the age of 83. For those

viewers just turning on their TVs,

1:21:201:21:26

remind us why he was so notorious.

Charles Manson was not only

1:21:261:21:32

notorious for the so-called Tate

Lobbe murders in America, in 1969,

1:21:321:21:40

but also for his great sense of

public relations. He played the

1:21:401:21:47

American people and people across

the globe like a puppet master.

1:21:471:21:53

Always able every few years to get

back to our attention with an

1:21:531:21:59

incendiary interview, claiming he

was engaged to a young follower, a

1:21:591:22:04

couple of years ago there was a near

death, supposedly. Frankly, I am a

1:22:041:22:08

little surprised that he expired

this time. If Manson somehow could

1:22:081:22:13

be a where of the reaction to his

death, he would be thrilled. What he

1:22:131:22:19

always wanted more than anything

else was attention. And obviously

1:22:191:22:22

right until the end that's what he

got.

He always carefully managed

1:22:221:22:27

that attention and the press

interest in him as well. These

1:22:271:22:30

murders took place at the end of the

1960s. It is worth reminding people

1:22:301:22:35

that he did not take part in the

murders. He convinced others as part

1:22:351:22:40

of this Manson family to take the

lives of others.

That is true.

1:22:401:22:47

People always forget when we say

that that he was in fact personally

1:22:471:22:51

involved in the murder of a ranch

hand in LA named Shorty Shea, after

1:22:511:23:01

the Tate murders, so despite what

mythology would tell us, Charles

1:23:011:23:05

Manson shed blood and killed

himself, so he was not only someone

1:23:051:23:10

who incited others to murder, he was

a murderer himself.

And, Jeff, you

1:23:101:23:16

looked into his early life in your

book - did you discover anything, or

1:23:161:23:21

speak to anyone that suggested that

there may be things to be learned

1:23:211:23:25

which led to what he did in later

life?

Actually, I was able to talk

1:23:251:23:31

to his sister and his cousin and

these were people who had never been

1:23:311:23:36

interviewed before that always tried

to stay out of sight. Even as a

1:23:361:23:43

child, five, six years old, Manson

was fascinated with violence, he was

1:23:431:23:48

particularly interested...

(INAUDIBLE).

1:23:481:23:50

And he actually attacked his cousin

with a sickle when he was still a

1:23:501:23:59

tiny child. He was disagreeable from

an early age. He was violent.

1:23:591:24:03

Hundreds of people who have talked

about him and dealt with in three is

1:24:031:24:07

life, I could not find one person

who could ever recall one kind thing

1:24:071:24:12

he had done for another person or a

generous thing he had done. He was

1:24:121:24:16

simply a despicable human being.

Thank you for your time this

1:24:161:24:21

morning. The Life and Times of

Charles Manson. Charles Manson has

1:24:211:24:30

died at the age of 83. The law

changed in California and he was

1:24:301:24:35

sentenced to life in prison. It is

just coming up to 7:25am.

1:24:351:24:40

Women are being advised to sleep

on their side in the last three

1:24:401:24:44

months of pregnancy to avoid

having a stillborn baby.

1:24:441:24:46

A study of just over 1,000 women

found the risk doubles if women go

1:24:461:24:50

to sleep on their backs

in the third trimester.

1:24:501:24:52

Our reporter Ali Fortescue has more.

1:24:521:24:56

I knew something was wrong.

1:24:561:25:00

I woke up in the morning and I just

knew something was wrong.

1:25:001:25:04

And we went to the hospital

and when they couldn't find

1:25:041:25:07

the heartbeat they nipped off

to go and find a doctor,

1:25:071:25:10

I knew that there was

something not quite right.

1:25:101:25:12

Lots of cards.

1:25:121:25:13

These are his footprints.

1:25:131:25:16

Grace lost baby Lewy at 35 weeks.

1:25:161:25:18

She still doesn't know

what caused her stillbirth.

1:25:181:25:23

He was so tiny, he was

just perfectly formed.

1:25:231:25:26

He had a beautiful upper lip.

1:25:261:25:29

And I think you always

think about the what-ifs,

1:25:291:25:33

what if I did this differently,

why has this happened,

1:25:331:25:35

what have I done wrong?

1:25:351:25:37

A lot of guilt.

1:25:371:25:38

Just sadness beyond anything that

I have ever experienced.

1:25:381:25:48

Grace says she was never given any

advice on sleep positions

1:25:481:25:51

when she was pregnant.

1:25:511:25:55

She's one of around 1,000 women

to have taken part in the Midlands

1:25:551:25:59

and North of England Stillbirth

Study, which is the largest

1:25:591:26:02

of its kind.

1:26:021:26:03

It found that one in 225 pregnancies

in the UK ended in stillbirth.

1:26:031:26:08

That's around 11 babies a day.

1:26:081:26:12

It also found that the risk

of stillbirth drops by nearly 4%

1:26:121:26:16

if women sleep on their side

in the third trimester.

1:26:161:26:16

if women sleep on their side

in the third trimester,

1:26:161:26:19

which could save around 130

lives a year in the UK.

1:26:191:26:22

# There were two in the bed,

then the little one said,

1:26:221:26:25

"Roll over".

1:26:251:26:26

The study comes alongside

a Charity campaign.

1:26:261:26:28

The advice is simple,

sleeping on your side could halve

1:26:281:26:30

the risk of a stillbirth.

1:26:301:26:32

You might end up in all sorts

of positions when asleep.

1:26:321:26:35

But the important thing to remember

is to start on your side.

1:26:351:26:39

It's hard to know for sure but it's

thought when you lie

1:26:391:26:47

on your back you could be putting

weight on important blood vessels

1:26:471:26:50

and restrict the flow

of blood to the baby.

1:26:501:26:52

Research has shown that the number

of stillbirths in the UK has gone

1:26:521:26:56

down, but the figures

here are still high and above those

1:26:561:26:59

in many other high-income countries.

1:26:591:27:00

We want to be one of the best

countries in the world and one

1:27:001:27:04

of the safest places to have a baby.

1:27:041:27:06

So there's lots of work to do.

1:27:061:27:08

And, actually, this study

will contribute to that,

1:27:081:27:10

because it has given us some simple

advice to give to women to cut

1:27:101:27:12

the risk

of having a stillbirth.

1:27:131:27:15

Grace has now started a new chapter.

1:27:151:27:16

Nine months ago, Rubin

joined the family.

1:27:161:27:18

Hearing the baby cry in the delivery

room was just amazing.

1:27:181:27:23

She'll never know what would have

happened if she'd had this advice,

1:27:231:27:27

but Grace hopes her story

and her part in the study

1:27:271:27:30

can save lives.

1:27:301:27:31

We'll be speaking to an obstetrician

involved in the study just

1:27:311:27:34

after 8am this morning.

1:27:341:27:36

You can get details of organisations

offering support with the issues

1:27:361:27:38

discussed in that film

at bbc.co.uk/actionline.

1:27:381:27:45

Let us know what you think about

that and anything else we are

1:27:451:27:49

covering this morning. We are going

to get the news, travel and weather

1:27:491:27:52

wherever you are this morning. We

will see

1:27:521:31:14

as we head into

the rest of the week.

1:31:141:31:16

I'm back with the latest

from the BBC London newsroom

1:31:161:31:19

in half an hour.

1:31:191:31:22

Hello, this is Breakfast,

with Dan Walker and Louise Minchin.

1:31:221:31:25

Here is a summary of this morning's

main stories from BBC News:

1:31:251:31:28

The Zimbabwean President,

Robert Mugabe, has defied widespread

1:31:281:31:30

demands that he step down.

1:31:301:31:32

In an address to the nation last

night, the 93-year-old made no

1:31:321:31:35

mention of a resignation,

even though the ruling Zanu-PF Party

1:31:351:31:38

has given him until 10:00am

today to hand over power

1:31:381:31:40

or face impeachment.

1:31:401:31:49

Germany is facing a political

crisis, after Angela Merkel's

1:31:491:31:52

attempts to form a three-party

coalition government failed

1:31:521:31:54

following weeks of negotiations.

1:31:541:31:55

The leaders of the pro-business

Free Democrats unexpectedly pulled

1:31:551:31:57

out of talks last night.

1:31:571:31:59

It represents a serious

setback for Mrs Merkel,

1:31:591:32:01

who during 12 years in power

was seen as a symbol of stable

1:32:011:32:05

government in Europe.

1:32:051:32:12

Police say there were no injuries

to suggest any other person

1:32:121:32:15

was involved in the death

of missing teenager Gaia Pope.

1:32:151:32:18

The 19-year-old's body was found

on Saturday in a field near Swanage,

1:32:181:32:21

11 days after she was last seen.

1:32:211:32:23

Dorset Police are treating her

death as unexplained,

1:32:231:32:25

pending toxicology results.

1:32:251:32:39

Officials says the search

for an Argentine naval submarine

1:32:391:32:41

that went missing with 44 crew

on board is being hampered

1:32:411:32:44

by bad weather conditions.

1:32:441:32:45

Teams from several countries have

intensified their efforts

1:32:451:32:47

in the South Atlantic to find

the ARA San Juan submarine,

1:32:471:32:51

which vanished last Wednesday off

the Argentine coast.

1:32:511:32:53

The US navy has sent a second ship

with special tracking equipment

1:32:531:32:56

and deep-sea rescue modules

to join the search.

1:32:561:32:58

Today it is the 70th wedding

anniversary of the Queen

1:32:581:33:01

and the Duke of Edinburgh.

1:33:011:33:02

They have been married longer

than any other Royal

1:33:021:33:05

couple in history.

1:33:051:33:05

They are celebrating their platinum

wedding anniversary with the release

1:33:051:33:08

of three new portraits,

and will be spending their day

1:33:081:33:11

with friends and family

privately at Windsor.

1:33:111:33:20

And that picture and the others are

on the front page of many of the

1:33:201:33:24

papers. There is a lovely piece in

the Telegraph, saying she loved him

1:33:241:33:28

from the first time she saw him. He

was her act of rebellion, she her

1:33:281:33:32

act of conformity.

1:33:321:33:34

In ten minutes' time, we will bring

you the weather, with Carol.

1:33:341:33:39

I was going to say the weather will

have Carol, but it is the other way

1:33:391:33:44

around, normally.

Which came first,

Carol or the weather?

You can do the

1:33:441:33:54

weather, if you like.

No, I can

barely do the sport! David Moyes has

1:33:541:34:00

had a tricky start, and you do look

at him sometimes, I said to you

1:34:001:34:05

earlier, a penny for those thoughts,

having left Everton, gone to

1:34:051:34:09

Manchester United, gone abroad, back

again.

What about positive thoughts?

1:34:091:34:14

He is thinking I am at a new club, I

will turn things around and we will

1:34:141:34:20

have a great rest of season.

1:34:201:34:22

West Ham remain in the Premier

League's relegation zone,

1:34:221:34:24

after David Moyes lost his

first game in charge.

1:34:241:34:27

They were beaten 2-0 at Watford.

1:34:271:34:28

Watford's goals came in either half,

from Will Hughes and this

1:34:281:34:31

strike from Richarlison.

1:34:311:34:32

Another impressive performance

from Marco Silva's side -

1:34:321:34:34

the Watford boss remains linked

with the vacant manager's

1:34:341:34:37

job at Everton.

1:34:371:34:38

And disappointment for Moyes,

in his 500th Premier League game

1:34:381:34:41

as a manager.

1:34:411:34:45

We made a couple of chances

to get ourselves goals.

1:34:451:34:48

We didn't get them today.

1:34:481:34:49

You know, the goals change games.

1:34:491:34:51

If you get them, you know,

it covers a multitude of sins.

1:34:511:34:54

We didn't take the chances today.

1:34:541:34:56

So we have to play better,

that's what I think.

1:34:561:34:59

I didn't really enjoy

bits of the performance.

1:34:591:35:01

But, if we'd got the goals in,

I think it would have turned things

1:35:011:35:05

around a bit.

1:35:051:35:05

In the Scottish Premiership,

Hearts returned to Tynecastle

1:35:051:35:08

after six months away while the main

stand was redeveloped.

1:35:081:35:10

They could only manage a 1-1 draw

against Partick Thistle,

1:35:101:35:13

though, Kris Doolan's late equaliser

spoiling the home side's day.

1:35:131:35:16

Chris Coleman's new job

after resigning as manager of Wales

1:35:161:35:19

will be to take charge

of Championship side Sunderland.

1:35:191:35:21

They are bottom of the table,

after just one win in 17 matches.

1:35:211:35:25

Coleman has signed a 2.5-year deal

to replace Simon Grayson,

1:35:251:35:27

who was sacked last month.

1:35:271:35:29

He will be in charge for tomorrow

night's game at Aston Villa.

1:35:291:35:36

No Roger Federer, Rafa Nadal

or Andy Murray in the end-of-season

1:35:361:35:39

World Tour Final in London,

but we still got plenty

1:35:391:35:42

of entertainment, and a victory

for Grigor Dimitrov.

1:35:421:35:44

He was up against David Goffin,

in a final few predicted.

1:35:441:35:47

Dimitrov is called Baby Fed,

because his style is like Federer's,

1:35:471:35:50

and he showed off his skill

in the decisive third set.

1:35:501:35:53

He went on to win the biggest

title of his career,

1:35:531:35:56

and in the process,

earn nearly £2 million.

1:35:561:36:03

It's been a tremendous two

weeks for me, honestly.

1:36:031:36:05

It's such an honour to play here.

1:36:051:36:07

This two weeks has been one

of the best two weeks I've ever had.

1:36:071:36:11

I'm lost for words,

I'm not going to lie.

1:36:111:36:14

Usually I'm good at that,

but today is just one of those days.

1:36:141:36:23

The finale to the European golf

season came down to the very last

1:36:231:36:26

hole, but Tommy Fleetwood has won

the race to Dubai for the first

1:36:261:36:29

time, just ahead of fellow

Englishman Justin Rose.

1:36:291:36:32

Rose had started the day

in terrific form.

1:36:321:36:34

But the wheels came off his

round on the 12th hole,

1:36:341:36:37

putting his second

shot into the water.

1:36:371:36:39

Two more mistakes handed

Fleetwood the title.

1:36:391:36:41

He had an anxious wait

before it was confirmed,

1:36:411:36:43

but it has been quite a year

for the 26-year-old from Southport.

1:36:431:36:52

It's been a big one.

1:36:521:36:54

Baby Frankie arriving

safely, and he's great.

1:36:541:36:56

I'm going to get married

in a couple of weeks.

1:36:561:36:58

And yeah, I mean, it's been

the best year of my life,

1:36:581:37:02

by an absolute mile.

1:37:021:37:03

And, you know, on the course,

it's been great.

1:37:031:37:05

I've played some of the best golf

of my career, and done things that

1:37:051:37:09

I've never done before.

1:37:091:37:10

And, off the course,

I'm just such a happy person.

1:37:101:37:13

So, it's - you know,

we'll have to think of ways

1:37:131:37:16

to better this one.

1:37:161:37:18

Champions Exeter have gone back

to the top of rugby union's

1:37:181:37:21

English Premiership,

but they were made to work for it

1:37:211:37:24

by Harlequins at Sandy Park.

1:37:241:37:25

It wasn't the best performance

from the defending champions,

1:37:251:37:28

but they ended up sealing

a bonus-point win thanks to two

1:37:281:37:31

tries from Jonny Hill.

1:37:311:37:32

That puts them two points

clear of Saracens.

1:37:321:37:34

There were also wins yesterday

for Bath and Leicester.

1:37:341:37:40

It has seemed like a long build-up,

but England have arrived in Brisbane

1:37:401:37:43

ahead of the first Test

at the Gabba, starting on Thursday.

1:37:431:37:46

No Ben Stokes, of course,

as the all-rounder awaits the result

1:37:461:37:49

of the investigation

into an incident outside a Bristol

1:37:491:37:51

nightclub in September.

1:37:511:37:53

The ECB have said Stokes won't join

the tour while he remains

1:37:531:37:56

under police investigation.

1:37:561:37:57

His team-mates, though,

are still hopeful he can play a part

1:37:571:38:00

at some stage.

1:38:001:38:03

It'd be amazing if

Stokesy comes out here.

1:38:031:38:05

I am sure you guys would

all think the same.

1:38:051:38:08

He's a fantastic cricketer.

1:38:081:38:09

We don't know what's

going on at the moment.

1:38:091:38:12

That's completely out of our hands,

and until that's resolved,

1:38:121:38:14

we actually don't know

what is going to happen.

1:38:141:38:17

But I'm sure that it will get

resolved, sooner rather than later,

1:38:171:38:20

we hope, because at the end

of the day, we want the best

1:38:201:38:23

cricketers playing in the Ashes.

1:38:231:38:29

I have been listening to a lot of

the players being interviewed over

1:38:291:38:34

the last few days, and one of the

great things they talk about is how

1:38:341:38:38

the locals are supporting, you know,

obviously the home side, and just

1:38:381:38:45

giving already a little tiny bit of

needling to the ponds, already.

--

1:38:451:38:52

Poms.

1:38:521:39:01

We are cutting down on spending this

year compared to last year.

Is that

1:39:011:39:05

why you haven't got the present?

I

have got Sally one, Carol, Naga...

1:39:051:39:19

Steph has a present coming her way.

If you want to pick one up, for me,

1:39:191:39:23

that would be lovely.

I have loads

of ideas. Not least there are 60,000

1:39:231:39:28

bottles of the sector in this

distribution centre alone --

1:39:281:39:36

prosecco. We have thousands of Ox is

of sweets, as well. I think Dan will

1:39:361:39:44

be up for that. Louise is a very

healthy person, so I will have to

1:39:441:39:48

look at what I will get her, and

Sally might like some prosecco as

1:39:481:39:52

well. It is around 3500 different

product lines. Easy for them at this

1:39:521:39:56

time of year. There are around 400

people who work here, and we are

1:39:561:40:01

talking about this today because new

research suggests we are not going

1:40:011:40:04

to spend as much this Christmas as

we have done in previous years. I

1:40:041:40:08

will talk a bit about why that is

the case in a minute. First we will

1:40:081:40:12

chat to John, he is the managing

director for this division, this

1:40:121:40:17

region. Tell us a bit about how you

prepare for Christmas.

Hello, Steph.

1:40:171:40:22

At the core, Christmas is our

biggest trading period of the year

1:40:221:40:26

so a lot of planning and preparation

goes into ensuring that we get it

1:40:261:40:29

right. Our customers tend to trade

up at Christmas, so we have a lot of

1:40:291:40:34

exciting, new, irresistible products

from deserts to party food to

1:40:341:40:40

delicious confectionery. And our

stores are geared up to suggest that

1:40:401:40:46

we can serve customers over the

Christmas period -- dessert. Both in

1:40:461:40:51

stores and remotely, there is a lot

of extra work, but a great time of

1:40:511:40:56

year in terms of customers.

And how

are people shopping? What is

1:40:561:40:59

interesting is how people have

changed from the big shop two more,

1:40:591:41:03

Little and often.

We absolutely see that. What we tend

1:41:031:41:07

to find is that people are

increasingly busy so they tend to

1:41:071:41:16

shop more, little and often, and

from a convenience point of view

1:41:161:41:19

that is convenient for us. We're

enjoying that changing customer a

1:41:191:41:22

beer.

Thank you for your time this

morning. That is one perspective,

1:41:221:41:30

from the co-operative group. What do

other retailers say? This research

1:41:301:41:35

from These are you saying that it

could be a tough time from all

1:41:351:41:39

retailers this year -- Visa. This is

something we have talked a lot about

1:41:391:41:43

in the past, haven't we? Tell us

your thoughts on what is happening

1:41:431:41:48

in retail at the moment.

Inflation

has gone up 3% now, so household

1:41:481:41:53

budgets are squeezed, as wages are

not going up by anywhere near that.

1:41:531:41:58

An inflation rate of 3% is an

average, so some prices are going up

1:41:581:42:04

by more than 3%, and if you are

paying for those products, and your

1:42:041:42:08

wages are only going up by 1%, you

are clearly worse off. People are

1:42:081:42:14

feeling the pinch.

Who are the

winners and losers?

Fashion is

1:42:141:42:18

finding it really tough at the

moment. Sales in fashion have

1:42:181:42:21

declined. They have for a long time

and you will see that in the sales

1:42:211:42:26

going on. Experienced retailers, so

food and beverage, hospitality, they

1:42:261:42:30

have all seen increases in sales,

actually. People want to go out have

1:42:301:42:36

experiences, and leisure. In a way

they are substituting that for

1:42:361:42:39

buying product now. We can do that

online and when people want to go

1:42:391:42:43

out, they want to have fun and have

an enjoyable time.

You mentioned

1:42:431:42:46

online. I will bring in James from

Experion.

We have experienced a boom

1:42:461:42:56

in online logistics, because of the

changing way we all shop. While big

1:42:561:43:01

distribution centres like this and

delivery vehicles are the kind of

1:43:011:43:05

visual manifestation of that, it is

all powered by data.

And how much is

1:43:051:43:10

that changing? Is online still way

we are seeing a lot of growth?

We

1:43:101:43:15

are certainly witnessing a boom.

Last year on Black Friday and cyber

1:43:151:43:18

Monday alone weep processed 24

million address validation checks,

1:43:181:43:23

which is vital to make sure that

people get their presence in time.

1:43:231:43:28

And this will increase further, by

about 20%.

Thank you very much for

1:43:281:43:32

your time. Before we go, we will

have a look down this isle. It is

1:43:321:43:36

fascinating is seeing how this work,

works, they scan things, and I will

1:43:361:43:43

go and carry on looking for

presents. I am actually rubbish at

1:43:431:43:47

buying presents. I am to obvious, I

need some inspiration.

I think you

1:43:471:43:52

might have been a bit obvious with

your 60,000 bottles of prosecco for

1:43:521:43:56

Carol. Thank you, so you a bit later

on.

-- see you a bit later on.

1:43:561:44:07

A plan to improve public transport

links in cities across the UK,

1:44:071:44:10

and backing for driverless cars.

1:44:101:44:12

It is a fitting way to start

the week for a Government

1:44:121:44:15

that is trying to show it does

still have a sense of direction.

1:44:151:44:19

Some £250 million have been

allocated to the West Midlands.

1:44:191:44:21

Business Minister Greg

Clark can tell us more.

1:44:211:44:23

He joins us now from our

Birmingham newsroom.

1:44:231:44:26

I know you are in Birmingham because

you are talking about an

1:44:261:44:30

announcement on transport today. No

new money, but you are talking about

1:44:301:44:34

improving transport links between

city centres and suburbs. Can you

1:44:341:44:37

give me a sort of practical example

of

1:44:371:44:43

Yes, I will. It is any investment

that will be

1:44:431:44:48

Yes, I will. It is any investment

that will be available to city

1:44:481:44:49

regions like Birmingham. One of the

things we know is, if you think of

1:44:491:44:54

London, it is quite easy to get

around London. You can go from

1:44:541:44:58

Croydon to central London in 20

minutes. In and around our the

1:44:581:45:03

cities you have towns are not far

apart but quite hard to get around

1:45:031:45:08

to. It is not as easy to zip

backwards and forwards. So what this

1:45:081:45:13

will do is to say to places like

Birmingham and the West Midlands and

1:45:131:45:20

other areas across the country where

the travel between the city centre

1:45:201:45:27

and the surrounding towns, between

the smaller towns themselves, slows

1:45:271:45:31

people down, takes a long time to

get to work, difficult for business

1:45:311:45:37

to get in touch with clients, they

should be upgraded so that you can

1:45:371:45:42

improve the productivity of those

areas.

And I want to know if you are

1:45:421:45:46

putting your money where your mouth

is. If we look back at London, 1.3

1:45:461:45:52

billion spent in London, you say the

links are better, Birmingham will

1:45:521:45:56

get £250 million, what do you say to

those who say that there is this

1:45:561:46:02

north- south divide.

This is part of

the long-term industrial strategy

1:46:021:46:07

which is for the first time looking

at those connections between the

1:46:071:46:10

smaller towns and the big cities.

What we will set out next week is a

1:46:101:46:15

whole series of measures so that

places right across the country will

1:46:151:46:19

have more funds themselves. The

Mayor of the West Midlands here has

1:46:191:46:26

been campaigning for precisely this.

One of the things he wants to do is

1:46:261:46:31

connect the light rail from the

Black Country, Riley Hill near

1:46:311:46:36

Dudley, to the rest of the

connections in the West Midlands. It

1:46:361:46:41

is going to make a big difference.

This is something that they have

1:46:411:46:45

been campaigning. I think it is

right that we devolve those funds so

1:46:451:46:51

that people in charge locally can

make those decisions and there is

1:46:511:46:54

more to come.

Let's talk about the

budget which is of course this week

1:46:541:46:58

as well. And we know that the

election was meant to revitalise the

1:46:581:47:01

party along with the party

conference. What does Philip Hammond

1:47:011:47:04

have to do to make sure that

happens?

One of the important things

1:47:041:47:10

that we have to do is to address

some of the opportunities but also

1:47:101:47:16

some of the challenges over the next

few years. And one of the things we

1:47:161:47:20

are talking about today is the

future of new technology in cars. In

1:47:201:47:25

West Midlands, famous the world over

for its cars. Cars are changing and

1:47:251:47:29

there is a revolution in how they

are powered. They are going from

1:47:291:47:35

diesel and petrol to electric. They

are being automated. You've got

1:47:351:47:39

intelligence systems driving them.

We need to be at the forefront of

1:47:391:47:43

that. We can be. We have one of the

best reputations in the world. To be

1:47:431:47:48

at the forefront you have to invest

in it and so what we are doing

1:47:481:47:52

through the budget and this will be

a big theme of it is investing in

1:47:521:47:56

the areas for the future in research

and development and also in the

1:47:561:48:01

skills people will need to make use

of these technologies. So looking to

1:48:011:48:05

the long-term, making sure we are

fit for the future as a country, is

1:48:051:48:10

the aim of the project.

I want to

ask specifically about Philip

1:48:101:48:15

Hammond. He has been in the papers

this weekend. He was given the

1:48:151:48:20

nickname "Friendless feel", others

say he is set up to fail. Is it his

1:48:201:48:29

last budget?

Anyone in his position

faces a difficult job to balance the

1:48:291:48:34

requirements that we have, to

properly fund the public services

1:48:341:48:37

and also to invest in the future. He

is a guy with a cool head, he has

1:48:371:48:44

been looking at all of the

requirements that are there. The

1:48:441:48:47

fact that what we are talking about

today here in the West Midlands,

1:48:471:48:54

investment, new investment in the

industries of the future, investment

1:48:541:48:58

in training for people so that they

have those skills, investment in

1:48:581:49:02

making sure that our towns and

cities are better connected, I think

1:49:021:49:06

it shows the whole government is

looking at what we need in the

1:49:061:49:10

long-term to be prosperous and to

improve our productivity.

Let's talk

1:49:101:49:14

about Brexit as well. We know that

there is a Cabinet meeting as far as

1:49:141:49:18

I understand. There is a suggestion

that we might be prepared, the

1:49:181:49:22

government may be prepared to double

the divorce bill. Would you back

1:49:221:49:26

that? Figures of £40 billion. ARU

suggesting it is the right idea?

1:49:261:49:31

Forgive me, the right approach to

any negotiations, including this

1:49:311:49:38

one, is to exercise discipline, and

as the EU is doing, that you form

1:49:381:49:48

your negotiating position, you

deploy that in a united way, rather

1:49:481:49:52

than talking about it in advance. We

want to get a good deal. I think

1:49:521:49:58

everyone... There is a real

groundswell of opinion not just in

1:49:581:50:02

this country but I think on the

continent that we want and need to

1:50:021:50:07

get the deal that brings us

together.

OK, can I just...

And go

1:50:071:50:13

on to talk about these important

terms on the final deal as to how to

1:50:131:50:17

trade with each other which, given

the opportunities that I have just

1:50:171:50:22

been talking about, it would be

crazy to do that in a full hearted

1:50:221:50:28

and vigorous way.

Would you back

money being spent and how would you

1:50:281:50:32

sell that to other members of your

party who seem vehemently opposed?

1:50:321:50:36

As I say, I take a simple view on

this. When we discuss our

1:50:361:50:44

negotiating position, you have to do

that in private. I think you need to

1:50:441:50:49

maintain the discipline of that. He

set out your position and then you

1:50:491:50:53

take that to deploy in the

negotiations to come. It doesn't

1:50:531:50:58

serve our national interest for

individual ministers to speculate

1:50:581:51:02

about what that position should be.

The Business Secretary joining us

1:51:021:51:08

from Birmingham, Greg Clark, thank

you for your time.

1:51:081:51:10

Let's find out what the

weather has in store.

1:51:101:51:13

It was milder than we expected it to

be. You are quite right. The last

1:51:131:51:21

three Mondays it has been really

cold. Today away from the west it is

1:51:211:51:25

fairly mild to start the day with

temperatures in double figures. And

1:51:251:51:29

through the day it will be a mild

week for most of it. There will be

1:51:291:51:34

some rain at times. It will be windy

especially from tomorrow. What we

1:51:341:51:38

have at the moment is low pressure

dominating the weather. With the

1:51:381:51:41

fronts taking rain from

1:51:411:51:42

dominating the weather. With the

fronts taking rain from the west to

1:51:421:51:43

the east, it will deposit snow on

the Scottish hills above the Central

1:51:431:51:48

Lowlands, and also want again we've

got some south-westerly wind coming

1:51:481:51:52

in, that is a mild direction for us,

as indicated by the yellow on the

1:51:521:51:57

chart. Still the Northern Isles and

the north-east Scotland sticking out

1:51:571:52:00

in the blues for you. It is cold. It

is a cold start across Scotland this

1:52:001:52:06

morning. We have snow in the

Highlands of the hills, so there is

1:52:061:52:09

going to -- there will be some

slushy weather. And then there will

1:52:091:52:19

be some band of rain coming in and

some drizzle. So this afternoon it

1:52:191:52:23

is cloudy and wet across northern

England. The rain won't be very

1:52:231:52:26

heavy foremost. Cloud across East

Anglia, down to Kent, the Midlands,

1:52:261:52:31

the Isle of Wight, and that is thick

enough for the odd spot of light

1:52:311:52:35

rain and drizzle. The same into

south-west England. You can see the

1:52:351:52:39

odd spot of rain coming out of the

cloud. It would be raining all of

1:52:391:52:44

the time. In north Wales around

Herefordshire and the west Midlands

1:52:441:52:48

we could well see some sunshine.

Northern Ireland, lots of cloud

1:52:481:52:52

through the day. Some splashes of

rain at times. Cloudy and still cold

1:52:521:52:59

particularly in the Northern Isles.

The maximum temperature only two

1:52:591:53:02

degrees. Through the evening and

overnight we see the rain rejuvenate

1:53:021:53:07

across Scotland with Winterman is in

the hills. South-westerly winds

1:53:071:53:14

again. Look a mild it is. These

would be good daytime temperatures

1:53:141:53:18

for the time of year. The mild

weather pushes up further north into

1:53:181:53:22

Scotland. It won't be as cold at

night as well. Tomorrow we start

1:53:221:53:26

with the rain in Scotland continuing

to drift north eastwards. Then a new

1:53:261:53:30

band comes in across Northern

Ireland, parts of Wales and

1:53:301:53:34

south-west England. Tomorrow will be

noticeably windy and gales in the

1:53:341:53:40

north-west. Temperatures by then 11

in Glasgow, ten in Aberdeen. Quite

1:53:401:53:45

different from today. 14 as we push

into the south-west. Heading into

1:53:451:53:50

Wednesday, low pressure is

dominating the weather. We have a

1:53:501:53:54

couple of cold fronts coming in. At

the end of the week on Friday it

1:53:541:53:58

will start to turn a bit colder from

the north.

Thank you very much

1:53:581:54:03

will start to turn a bit colder from

the north.

Thank you very much for

1:54:031:54:03

that. Are you an apology.

Why?

Someone said I love your new haircut

1:54:031:54:13

and I didn't notice you have had a

haircut.

I don't mind. It is fine.

1:54:131:54:18

Is it too late?

No.

1:54:181:54:25

As we've been hearing this morning,

the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh

1:54:251:54:28

are marking their 70th

wedding anniversary.

1:54:281:54:30

But how do you make a success

of a long marriage?

1:54:301:54:33

By noticing things, I think.

1:54:331:54:35

To find out, Breakfast's John

McGuire has been speaking to one

1:54:351:54:38

couple who are also celebrating

seven decades together,

1:54:381:54:40

and are as happy today

as they were on their wedding day.

1:54:401:54:43

We are delighted to share such a

special year with you and hope that

1:54:431:54:49

your celebrations are particularly

happy and memorable.

Among the cards

1:54:491:54:55

in honour of Jim and Betty's wedding

anniversary is one from another

1:54:551:54:59

platinum couple.

We had one for our

60th, one for our 60 feet and this

1:54:591:55:05

one.

They first met as teenagers as

Bettie, evacuee from Bristol, writer

1:55:051:55:13

Jim's place in Gloucestershire. They

were married five years later in

1:55:131:55:19

1947.

The Princess has been in the

Abbey for nearly an hour.

The royal

1:55:191:55:25

wedding of Princess Elizabeth and

the Duke of Edinburgh took place in

1:55:251:55:28

Westminster Abbey before Kings,

queens and outside hundreds of

1:55:281:55:33

thousands of people. Although of

course there celebrations were more

1:55:331:55:39

modest, Betty and Jim were

determined not to let post-war

1:55:391:55:43

austerity hamper their special day.

Clothing coupons, you know. I had to

1:55:431:55:49

borrow a wedding dress.

I had a

little car that are sold to my

1:55:491:55:56

father and he gave me the money that

I used.

We were lucky to have a

1:55:561:56:06

wedding cake. A two tier wedding

cake. Usually the cakes were made

1:56:061:56:10

out of cardboard and then they would

lift it up and there would be a

1:56:101:56:14

little cake inside. Food was

rationed.

From the palace twopenny,

1:56:141:56:18

Elizabeth and her husband waived to

the crowds.

The Queen's golden

1:56:181:56:22

anniversary were invited to

Buckingham Palace. And 20 years on

1:56:221:56:30

Betty and Jim are the guests of

honour at a family party with their

1:56:301:56:34

five daughters, 14 grandchildren and

12 great-grandchildren. Yes, I like

1:56:341:56:44

to see them after school, on the

weekend and stuff. And you know they

1:56:441:56:48

have been to Buckingham Palace?

Have

a?

Yes, when they were married for

1:56:481:56:52

50 years.

I didn't know that.

Do you

know who else has been married for

1:56:521:56:56

70 years?

The Queen.

My friends at

school were like, that is a long

1:56:561:57:01

time.

It is indeed. What is their

secret?

We have always loved each

1:57:011:57:05

other. We have always been very

loving. That is the thing. We don't

1:57:051:57:14

treat each other like strangers. We

always kiss good night. Hold hands.

1:57:141:57:18

Yes.

So, has Jim and Betty danced the

1:57:181:57:28

anniversary waltz or possibly their

70th time, hopefully they will keep

1:57:281:57:33

dancing for many more.

1:57:331:57:38

I love them. I think there was a

clue in their chairs they were

1:57:381:57:44

sitting in. They were very close

together. It was definitely his and

1:57:441:57:48

hers. See what I mean?

And did you

notice that Betsy said quite a lot

1:57:481:57:55

and Jim just said yes. He just

agreed. That is the key.

1:57:552:01:21

Hello, this is Breakfast,

with Dan Walker and Louise Minchin.

2:01:232:01:26

Robert Mugabe clings to power

as he refuses to stand down

2:01:262:01:29

as president of Zimbabwe.

2:01:292:01:32

In an extraordinary speech live

on TV

2:01:322:01:34

in which he had

been expected to quit,

2:01:342:01:36

the 93-year-old instead promised

to stay on for weeks to come.

2:01:362:01:46

The operation I have alluded to did

not amount to a threat to our well

2:01:462:01:54

cherished constitutional order, nor

what it a challenge to my authority

2:01:542:01:58

as head of state and government.

2:01:582:02:09

Good morning.

2:02:112:02:13

It's Monday 20th November.

2:02:132:02:16

Also this morning: Charles Manson,

the notorious head of an American

2:02:162:02:21

cult which he directed to carry out

a series of murders,

2:02:212:02:23

has died in hospital aged 83.

2:02:232:02:29

Reducing the number

of still born babies -

2:02:292:02:31

pregnant mums are told that

sleeping on their sides

2:02:312:02:33

could save hundreds of lives.

2:02:332:02:35

70 years since their marriage

at Westminster Abbey,

2:02:352:02:40

the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh

2:02:402:02:43

celebrate their platinum wedding

anniversary with the release

2:02:432:02:45

of three new portraits.

2:02:452:02:50

Good morning from this distribution

centre where today, I am talking

2:02:502:02:56

about how retailers prepare for the

festive season. If the analysts are

2:02:562:03:00

right, it's going to be a tough one,

so I will be looking at what is

2:03:002:03:03

happening.

2:03:032:03:05

In sport - a terrible return

to the Premier League

2:03:052:03:07

for David Moyes

2:03:072:03:08

as his West Ham side

are beaten 2-0 by Watford

2:03:082:03:11

in his first match in charge.

2:03:112:03:14

West Ham remain in the relegation

zone.

2:03:142:03:16

And Carol has the weather.

2:03:162:03:20

It's a cloudy start the day. It will

be cloudy throughout much of the

2:03:202:03:25

day, with the rain pushing from the

west east and possibly some snow in

2:03:252:03:28

the hills of the Highlands. But it

is much milder and becoming milder

2:03:282:03:31

as we go through this week.

2:03:312:03:37

The Zimbabwean President,

Robert Mugabe, has shocked

2:03:372:03:40

the nation by refusing widespread

demands for him to stand down.

2:03:402:03:45

Giving a speech live on TV

while under house arrest

2:03:452:03:48

during which he had been expected

to resign, he instead

2:03:482:03:50

announced his intention to lead

next month's congress

2:03:502:03:52

of the ruling party.

2:03:522:03:54

He's now been given a deadline

until ten o'clock this morning

2:03:542:03:56

to quit or face action.

2:03:562:03:57

Our Africa Editor Fergal

Keane has this report.

2:03:572:04:07

MARIMBA MUSIC.

2:04:092:04:11

The very music seemed

designed to drain any

2:04:112:04:13

drama out of the moment.

2:04:132:04:15

And perhaps the geniality

of the encounter was a giveaway.

2:04:152:04:17

Robert Mugabe didn't look like a man

about to walk into the wilderness.

2:04:172:04:20

And his words, delivered 15 minutes

into a rambling address,

2:04:202:04:24

confirmed that he intended to stay

as leader of the country and party.

2:04:242:04:28

The congress is due here

in a few weeks from now.

2:04:282:04:37

I will preside over its processes,

which must not be prepossessed

2:04:372:04:40

by any acts calculated to undermine

it, or to compromise the outcomes

2:04:402:04:43

in the eyes of the public.

2:04:432:04:53

He praised the military

and acknowledged the crisis

2:04:542:04:56

in his country and party.

2:04:562:04:58

This appearance has shocked

Zimbabweans, who were preparing

2:04:582:05:00

to witness his resignation.

2:05:002:05:04

I think we're being played.

2:05:042:05:05

We are being played.

2:05:052:05:07

I feel let down.

2:05:072:05:09

I think by now we should have

produced some sort of result,

2:05:092:05:12

but we have nothing.

2:05:122:05:13

It's like we're back to square one.

2:05:132:05:15

I think the whole nation

was expecting him to resign.

2:05:152:05:17

I think we're all shocked.

2:05:172:05:18

I think people are going to be

depressed, confused.

2:05:182:05:21

There are big questions now.

2:05:212:05:22

How can Robert Mugabe preside over

a party which removed him

2:05:222:05:25

from the leadership?

2:05:252:05:28

Once-loyal supporters met to warn

that he would be impeached

2:05:282:05:32

by parliament if he didn't step down

from the presidency.

2:05:322:05:36

This is the moment when Robert

Mugabe lost power in his own party,

2:05:362:05:42

the party he dominated for so long,

and has now been replaced as party

2:05:422:05:50

leader by a man who was one

of his closest allies for decades.

2:05:502:05:53

A Crocodile...

2:05:532:06:04

The new leader, Emmerson Mnangagwa,

is known as "the Crocodile",

2:06:052:06:08

celebrated here for his ruthless

cunning.

2:06:082:06:09

But when it gets its prey...

2:06:092:06:11

He may have agreed to pause,

but he is unlikely to stop

2:06:112:06:14

until he ousts his old comrade.

2:06:142:06:15

The American criminal and former

cult leader, Charles Manson,

2:06:152:06:17

has died in prison in California.

2:06:172:06:19

He was 83.

2:06:192:06:20

Manson's followers committed a

series of notorious murders in 1969.

2:06:202:06:23

Their victims included

the actress, Sharon Tate,

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wife of the director,

Roman Polanski, at her

2:06:272:06:29

home in Hollywood.

2:06:292:06:35

Manson himself was initially

sentenced to death, before

2:06:352:06:37

the penalty was abolished

in California,

2:06:372:06:38

as James Cook reports.

2:06:382:06:39

Charles Manson - the name itself

is synonymous with evil,

2:06:392:06:43

a killer who did no killing,

but whose crimes shocked the world.

2:06:432:06:47

In August 1969, followers

of his cult broke into the Hollywood

2:06:472:06:50

home of Sharon Tate.

2:06:502:06:51

The pregnant actress,

who was married to the director

2:06:512:06:54

Roman Polanski, was brutally

murdered, along with

2:06:542:06:55

four of her friends.

2:06:552:07:01

The next night, the so-called

Manson Family killed again,

2:07:012:07:04

tying up and murdering

a wealthy couple.

2:07:042:07:09

This was the ramshackle

ranch in Death Valley

2:07:092:07:12

where Manson lived in a commune

with his young, runaway fans.

2:07:122:07:18

They apparently used LSD,

and saw the guitar-playing

2:07:182:07:20

ex-convict as a kind of saint,

or perhaps a devil.

2:07:202:07:23

Charles Manson was charged not

with wielding a knife or firing

2:07:232:07:25

a gun, but with controlling

and directing the killers.

2:07:252:07:29

I don't accept the court,

I don't accept the whole situation.

2:07:292:07:34

Like, I was in the desert,

minding my business.

2:07:342:07:37

This confusion belongs to you.

2:07:372:07:39

It's your confusion.

2:07:392:07:40

I don't have any confusion.

2:07:402:07:42

I don't have any guilt.

2:07:422:07:44

I know what I've done,

and no man can judge me.

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I judge me.

2:07:472:07:48

What have you done, Charlie?

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And why had he done it?

2:07:492:07:55

Apparently, to spark a race war.

2:07:552:07:56

It would be called Helter-Skelter,

and he would use it to seize power.

2:07:562:07:59

In 1971, Manson was sentenced

to death on seven counts of murder,

2:07:592:08:03

later commuted to life in prison.

2:08:032:08:06

Over the years, Charles Manson

applied for parole

2:08:062:08:08

time and time again.

2:08:082:08:10

But he died a prisoner,

having shattered the peace

2:08:102:08:13

and love of the 1960s

with diabolical violence.

2:08:132:08:19

Theresa May will chair a meeting

today with ministers

2:08:192:08:23

as they try to find a way to make

progress in the stalled negotiations

2:08:232:08:27

with the European Union.

2:08:272:08:28

They're expected to discuss

the so-called "divorce bill" that EU

2:08:282:08:30

leaders have insisted must be

resolved before the talks

2:08:302:08:34

can move onto trade.

2:08:342:08:35

Our political correspondent

Eleanor Garnier joins

2:08:352:08:36

us from Westminster.

2:08:362:08:43

We have been speaking to the

Transport Secretary about this, Greg

2:08:432:08:47

Clark. They are refusing to discuss

whether they are talking about the

2:08:472:08:53

Brexit bill.

That's right. It could

be a significant meeting later today

2:08:532:08:59

of this Brexit Cabinet committee. It

is a group of senior ministers that

2:08:592:09:03

decide the negotiating position of

the government. We know money has

2:09:032:09:07

been a major sticking point in these

talks. That is partly because the EU

2:09:072:09:11

and the UK have taken very different

approaches to settling the bill. It

2:09:112:09:16

is also partly because the UK has

been pushing back to make sure

2:09:162:09:20

taxpayers here don't pay any more

than they need to. But it is also

2:09:202:09:25

because the Cabinet has not yet

agreed away forward when it comes to

2:09:252:09:27

the cash. So at this meeting, will

those senior ministers finally

2:09:272:09:33

agreed a plan? As EU politicians

keep reminding us, the clock is

2:09:332:09:40

ticking, the pressure is on. It is

going to be a busy day for the Prime

2:09:402:09:43

Minister, because she will be in the

West Midlands as well a few days

2:09:432:09:49

ahead of the Budget, highlighting

plans to improve the transport links

2:09:492:09:52

between the cities and suburbs, all,

they say, in the name of improving

2:09:522:09:57

prosperity.

2:09:572:09:58

Germany is facing a political crisis

after Angela Merkel's attempts

2:09:582:10:01

to form a three-party coaltion

government failed following

2:10:012:10:03

weeks of negotations.

2:10:032:10:05

The leaders of the pro-business

Free Democrats unexpectedly pulled

2:10:052:10:07

out of talks last night.

2:10:072:10:10

It represents a serious setback

for Mrs Merkel, who,

2:10:102:10:12

during 12 years in power,

was seen as a symbol of stable

2:10:122:10:15

government in Europe.

2:10:152:10:18

Today marks the 70th wedding

anniversary of the Queen

2:10:182:10:20

and the Duke of Edinburgh.

2:10:202:10:21

They have been married

longer than any other

2:10:212:10:23

royal couple in history.

2:10:232:10:24

They will celebrate the latest

in their long line of milestones

2:10:242:10:29

privately with family

and friends at Windsor.

2:10:292:10:31

Our royal correspondent

Sarah Campbell reports.

2:10:312:10:36

In the gloom of post-war Britain,

their marriage was, in the words

2:10:362:10:40

of Winston Churchill,

a flash of colour.

2:10:402:10:43

He was the dashing naval officer,

she the future Queen.

2:10:432:10:48

In the 70 years since,

theirs has proved to be

2:10:482:10:50

a relationship which has truly stood

the test of time.

2:10:502:10:55

It's worked because their

personalities and their characters

2:10:552:11:00

complement one another.

2:11:002:11:03

They're quite different,

in many ways, but Prince Philip

2:11:032:11:05

is the first to make the Queen laugh

uproariously, and is probably

2:11:052:11:08

the only person who can also

tell her to shut up.

2:11:082:11:12

Pictured in 1939, 18-year-old Philip

first caught Princess Elizabeth's

2:11:122:11:14

eye on a visit to Dartmouth Naval

College.

2:11:142:11:20

It was the beginning

of a friendship which grew

2:11:202:11:22

into a lifelong partnership.

2:11:222:11:24

The Queen has referred to him

as her strength and stay.

2:11:242:11:28

The Duke remarked that

tolerance is essential

2:11:282:11:33

to any happy marriage,

and the Queen, he added,

2:11:332:11:35

has that quality in abundance.

2:11:352:11:37

70 years after the royal couple

exchanged their vows here,

2:11:372:11:40

the bells of Westminster Abbey

will peal for more than three

2:11:402:11:43

hours in their honour.

2:11:432:11:48

These images have been released

by the Palace to mark the couple's

2:11:482:11:51

milestone anniversary.

2:11:512:11:53

The Queen and Prince Philip

will celebrate at a private party

2:11:532:11:56

at Windsor Castle this evening.

2:11:562:12:04

With a host of sport's

governing bodies embroiled

2:12:042:12:07

in bullying allegations,

the woman with one of the most

2:12:072:12:09

powerful roles in British sport

is calling for improvements

2:12:092:12:11

to the welfare of athletes.

2:12:112:12:12

Dame Katherine Grainger,

who won rowing gold at London 2012,

2:12:122:12:19

said there was "a lot more to do"

on duty of care, and promised

2:12:192:12:23

that would lead to more

medals, not fewer.

2:12:232:12:25

Dame Katherine joins us now.

2:12:252:12:35

Normally, we talk about your

incredible achievements of the

2:12:352:12:37

sport, but there are some real

issues to get to the bottom of this

2:12:372:12:41

morning. The Conservative MP Damian

Collins also chairs the Culture,

2:12:412:12:45

Media and Sport 's committee. He

said "British athletes have fewer

2:12:452:12:49

rights than an Uber driver and

desperately need an independent

2:12:492:12:52

watchdog to try and protect them".

You agree?

It's a very strong

2:12:522:12:59

statement. I have been an athlete

for 20 years. I would disagree in

2:12:592:13:04

that I think athletes do have rights

and they do have a voice. But not

2:13:042:13:08

all of them have been heard. It is

hard as an athlete and as someone

2:13:082:13:15

who has seen the amazing and

inspirational aspect of sport to

2:13:152:13:20

year these stories. You want people

who have been in the sport and have

2:13:202:13:23

loved it and developed and grown and

experience wonderful things, and it

2:13:232:13:29

is heartbreaking to hear that there

are some who have had bad

2:13:292:13:32

experiences within sport. But it is

good that we know that now. I didn't

2:13:322:13:36

know the scale of it. That awareness

means that things are now happening

2:13:362:13:41

and action is being taken.

It is a

long list. British gymnastics has

2:13:412:13:49

hit the headlines. There also

inquiries about GB taekwondo,

2:13:492:13:53

British swimming and canoeing other

things. It seems to be across all

2:13:532:14:00

sports. How has it become endemic?

I

don't think it is endemic. It is not

2:14:002:14:09

across all sports and even within

those sports, it is not widespread.

2:14:092:14:14

But any instances are too many. You

don't want to hear these headlines.

2:14:142:14:19

It is a very high pressured

environment to be in. And everyone

2:14:192:14:26

in it, whether it is athletes or

coaches or support, everyone is

2:14:262:14:30

trying to do incredible feats and

they are being pushed very hard.

2:14:302:14:35

Sometimes it goes too far.

When you

speak to coaches who are involved,

2:14:352:14:41

some of them feel that they don't

know how far they can go now. You

2:14:412:14:44

want it to be a high pressure

environment to manufacture what you

2:14:442:14:48

will get in competition. You want

people to be pushed to physical and

2:14:482:14:53

mental amazing feats, and yet it is

a fine line. How do you get close to

2:14:532:14:59

pushing your athletes to make sure

they achieved without it going too

2:14:592:15:03

far?

There are a few things. We need

to make sure the people in

2:15:032:15:10

leadership positions are supported

in the behaviours that are right.

2:15:102:15:17

And when people have experienced any

situation they are uncomfortable

2:15:172:15:21

with, they need somewhere to go and

be listened to. Ultimately, everyone

2:15:212:15:28

in the system once the success that

we have seen for a long time, but in

2:15:282:15:32

the healthiest possible way. The

challenge is whether we can keep the

2:15:322:15:37

performance at the level we want it

to be at, but make sure the

2:15:372:15:40

integrity and dignity is there for

everyone?

And what about funding?

2:15:402:15:46

There is the approach which has been

talked about, win at all costs and

2:15:462:15:51

you will get lottery funding. Sports

is about winning medals and doctors

2:15:512:15:58

that need to change?

The UK

Athletics is the body that decides

2:15:582:16:06

whether managers. The remit for UK

sport from the government is to

2:16:062:16:11

inspire the nation through

Paralympic and Olympic success. The

2:16:112:16:14

whole point is to get the success.

That is why it exists. That is where

2:16:142:16:20

he we have celebrated in the last

few Olympics and have enjoyed those

2:16:202:16:22

few moments. But for the first time,

and that drive for perfection that

2:16:222:16:28

we are all trying for, sometimes it

gets pushed the wrong side of the

2:16:282:16:33

line. And if it goes anywhere near

the line, we need people who can

2:16:332:16:36

speak out about it or have action

taken quickly. It is not that we

2:16:362:16:41

need to shift our whole thinking of

where sport goes next, it is that it

2:16:412:16:44

needs to be healthier.

2:16:442:16:51

Can I ask you about Sir Bradley

Wiggins because he will make his

2:16:512:16:56

competitive rowing debut next month

and this is on the back of, he has

2:16:562:17:00

been in the news recently, he will

not face charges over what took

2:17:002:17:04

place in 2011. We can see some

pictures of him. I know he spoke to

2:17:042:17:08

Louise a few months ago about how

well he was doing on a rowing

2:17:082:17:11

machine. Is it a surprise to you?

And can he make the switch in sport

2:17:112:17:16

when they are such different

disciplines?

They are different

2:17:162:17:20

disciplines, but I rode with Rebecca

and I was world champion with

2:17:202:17:24

Rebecca a few years ago and she made

a successful swap into cycling. So,

2:17:242:17:29

there is already a mix between

cycling and rowing that exists and

2:17:292:17:32

it's possible. I think, I know that

Bradley is being coached and advised

2:17:322:17:39

by James Cracknell.

He knows a thing

or too.

He won't go lightly on

2:17:392:17:44

Bradley. It will be interesting for

all of us to see how he does.

Would

2:17:442:17:48

you like to see him at an Olympics

if his numbers are right?

If his

2:17:482:17:52

numbers are right and he can move a

boat fast, it will be fascinating to

2:17:522:17:56

watch him compete.

All eyes on Sir

Bradley, thank you.

2:17:562:18:04

Let's find out what the

weather has in store.

2:18:042:18:06

Here's Carol.

2:18:062:18:09

Here's Carol.

2:18:092:18:11

Oh dear, you don't want to be on

that motorway this morning.

We have

2:18:112:18:16

a lot of rain, we've got snow, but

generally this week, it is going to

2:18:162:18:20

turn milder. Rain at times and

windy. To give you a comparison of

2:18:202:18:27

temperatures in Balmoral the

temperature is freezing, but in

2:18:272:18:30

Wales, it is 14 Celsius. That would

be a good day time maximum

2:18:302:18:34

temperature. Much less a temperature

at this time of day. Low pressure is

2:18:342:18:39

dominating our weather and it is

taking rain and drizzle with it from

2:18:392:18:43

the west towards the east, but we

are being bathed in south-westerly

2:18:432:18:46

winds. That's a mild direction for

us hence the higher temperatures,

2:18:462:18:49

but it is not across the north-east

of Scotland and neither will it be

2:18:492:18:53

during today. So you are going to

have a cold day. There goes the rain

2:18:532:18:57

moving through Northern Ireland and

northern England and also Scotland P

2:18:572:19:01

we will see that snow for a time, we

are not looking at huge amounts and

2:19:012:19:05

it is on high ground. As the rain

moves away, the main band, we will

2:19:052:19:09

be left with a lot of cloud and rain

coming out of the remaining cloud,

2:19:092:19:13

nothing particularly heavy, but it's

the temperatures really that are of

2:19:132:19:16

most interest. Looking at 11s and

12s at this time of year, we will be

2:19:162:19:21

looking at 7s and 8s as our

maximums. A lot of cloud across

2:19:212:19:26

southern counties. Rain and drizzle

here and there with brightness and

2:19:262:19:30

spots of rain continuing across

parts of South Wales, but parts of

2:19:302:19:34

Wales especially in the east and

around Herefordshire, the West

2:19:342:19:38

Midlands are favoured for seeing

sunshine today. Northern Ireland,

2:19:382:19:41

when we lose this morning's rain, it

will be replaced with cloud and

2:19:412:19:45

lighter rain, but you can see it is

a narrow band. And the same across

2:19:452:19:49

Scotland. The rain will be on and

off during the day and it will be

2:19:492:19:53

cold. Inverness getting up to a high

of six Celsius. For Orkney and

2:19:532:19:58

Shetland, three Celsius. Through the

evening and overnight, the rain

2:19:582:20:01

rejuvenates across Scotland and on

the hills it could be wintry, a new

2:20:012:20:05

band sweeps in from the south-west

moving north-east wards. The milder

2:20:052:20:09

conditions start to move across

Scotland. So we'll lose the

2:20:092:20:14

freezings that we had and they will

be replaced by 6s and 7s. Tomorrow,

2:20:142:20:18

we start off with the rain. A nice

big arc of it. There will be a lot

2:20:182:20:22

of dry weather and cloudy and the

next weather front comes in from the

2:20:222:20:27

west bearing more rain and tomorrow

we will be bathed in south-westerly

2:20:272:20:29

winds. So it's not going to feel

cold. Ten Celsius in Aberdeen

2:20:292:20:36

instead of the 6 or 7 today and 14s

as we push south and south-west.

2:20:362:20:41

Towards the end of the week, from

Tuesday and into Wednesday and then

2:20:412:20:46

into Thursday, low pressure

dominates our weather. We have got a

2:20:462:20:48

couple of cold fronts and behind the

cold fronts, we tend to pull in some

2:20:482:20:53

colder conditions. So to translate

that on to our graphics, Wednesday

2:20:532:20:57

we are in the mild weather. London

could hit 15 Celsius, other parts of

2:20:572:21:01

the south-west, West Wales could hit

15 Celsius. There will be rain in

2:21:012:21:05

the forecast, but by the time we get

to Thursday, we are starting to see

2:21:052:21:08

cooler weather coming in from the

north. By Friday that will be

2:21:082:21:11

pushing further south and we could

see snow on its hills as far south

2:21:112:21:15

as Wales for example by Friday, but

that's a long way off and that could

2:21:152:21:19

well change Lou and Dan.

2:21:192:21:22

Thank you very much thank

2:21:222:21:23

Thank you very much thank you very

2:21:232:21:24

Thank you very much.

2:21:272:21:30

Women are being advised to sleep

on their side in the last three

2:21:312:21:34

months of pregnancy to avoid having

a stillborn baby.

2:21:342:21:36

A study of just over 1,000 women

found the risk doubles if women go

2:21:362:21:40

to sleep on their backs

in the third trimester.

2:21:402:21:42

Our reporter Ali Fortescue has more.

2:21:422:21:46

I knew something was wrong.

2:21:462:21:47

I woke up in the morning and I just

knew something was wrong.

2:21:472:21:50

And we went to the hospital

and when they couldn't find

2:21:502:21:53

the heartbeat they nipped off to go

and find a doctor, I knew that there

2:21:532:21:57

was something not quite right.

2:21:572:21:59

So lots of cards.

2:21:592:22:01

These are his footprints.

2:22:012:22:02

Grace lost baby Lewy at 35 weeks.

2:22:022:22:04

She still doesn't know

what caused her stillbirth.

2:22:042:22:09

He was so tiny.

2:22:092:22:15

He was just perfectly formed.

2:22:152:22:16

He had a beautiful upper lip.

2:22:162:22:18

And I think you always

think about the what-ifs,

2:22:182:22:20

what if I did this differently,

why has this happened,

2:22:202:22:23

what have I done wrong?

2:22:232:22:24

A lot of guilt.

2:22:242:22:31

Just sadness beyond anything that

I have ever experienced.

2:22:312:22:37

Grace says she was never given any

advice on sleep positions

2:22:372:22:40

when she was pregnant.

2:22:402:22:41

She's one of around 1,000

women to have taken part

2:22:412:22:43

in the Midlands and North

of England Stillbirth Study,

2:22:432:22:45

which is the largest of its kind.

2:22:452:22:48

It found that one in 225 pregnancies

in the UK ended in stillbirth.

2:22:482:22:52

That's around 11 babies a day.

2:22:522:22:55

It also found that the risk

of stillbirth drops by nearly 4%

2:22:552:23:00

if women sleep on their side

in the third trimester,

2:23:002:23:04

which could save around

130 lives a year in the UK.

2:23:042:23:10

# There were two in the bed, then

the little one said, "Roll over".

2:23:102:23:13

The study comes alongside

a Charity campaign.

2:23:132:23:16

The advice is simple,

sleeping on your side could halve

2:23:162:23:18

the risk of a stillbirth.

2:23:182:23:20

You might end up in all sorts

of positions when asleep,

2:23:202:23:22

but the important thing to remember

is to start on your side.

2:23:222:23:28

It's hard to know for sure, but it's

thought when you lie on your back

2:23:282:23:31

you could be putting weight

on important blood vessels

2:23:312:23:33

and restricting the flow

of blood to the baby.

2:23:332:23:43

Grace will never know what would

have happened if she had this

2:23:482:23:52

advice, but Grace hopes the study

and her part in the study can help

2:23:522:23:56

save lives.

2:23:562:23:59

Professor Alexander Heazell,

Clinical Director at the Tommy's

2:23:592:24:01

Stillbirth Research Centre,

joins us now.

2:24:012:24:04

You have looked at this. There are

four studies and it is clear the

2:24:042:24:08

advice needs to be that women should

sleep on their side?

There have been

2:24:082:24:14

four studies, two in New Zealand and

one in Australia and now this one we

2:24:142:24:17

conducted in the UK and all of those

show the same effect that sleeping

2:24:172:24:25

on your back increases the risk of

still birth after 28 weeks.

Some

2:24:252:24:30

interesting detail in the piece that

we just showed there as well. How

2:24:302:24:34

soon after pregnancy then should

women start sleeping on their side?

2:24:342:24:39

So, if terms of the study that we

did and the others, they look after

2:24:392:24:43

28 weeks. This really applies to the

last 12, 14 weeks of pregnancy.

And

2:24:432:24:49

is there any reason why that, that

you know, that that might be the

2:24:492:24:52

case?

So, we know that when a mum

lies flat on her back in pregnancy,

2:24:522:24:59

the weight of the baby can press on

the big blood vessels in a mum's

2:24:592:25:05

tummy which means that less blood

goes back to a mum's heart and that

2:25:052:25:09

means that less blood and less

oxygen reaches the baby. There is a

2:25:092:25:14

plausible reason why this might have

an effect.

We have got lots of

2:25:142:25:18

people getting in contact this

morning. It is worth backing up as

2:25:182:25:21

well again something we heard

earlier. If you wake up and you have

2:25:212:25:25

rolled on to your back, that's not a

cause for concern, is it?

Absolutely

2:25:252:25:29

not. The question we asked what

position do you go to sleep in

2:25:292:25:34

because that's something that you

can change whereas we can't change

2:25:342:25:38

the position that we wake up in.

Right.

We think that's important

2:25:382:25:41

because the position that you go to

sleep in is the position that you

2:25:412:25:45

spend the most time in while you are

asleep.

So how, some people will

2:25:452:25:50

want to sleep on their backs, maybe

that's what they do, how do you

2:25:502:25:54

encourage people and people who

don't feel comfortable on their side

2:25:542:25:57

to do so? In physical terms, I

guess?

Our study showed that the

2:25:572:26:03

majority of mums already do sleep on

their side because in late pregnancy

2:26:032:26:08

it can be uncomfortable. Many mums

actually say they find it very

2:26:082:26:12

difficult to sleep on their backs.

If people are used to it then I

2:26:122:26:16

think what we would want to do is

maybe say we think it's better to

2:26:162:26:19

sleep on your side, we think it's

better for baby and maybe putting a

2:26:192:26:24

pillow behind your back or some

practical measure would be a helpful

2:26:242:26:28

thing to do.

How does our advice

compare with the advice that mothers

2:26:282:26:31

would be getting in our countries?

There is a the lo of varying advice.

2:26:312:26:35

This is part of the problem, isn't

it?

By doing the studies and coming

2:26:352:26:39

up with more clear advice for

pregnant mums that we want to

2:26:392:26:43

actually reduce anxiety and reduce

the sort of old wives tales that

2:26:432:26:51

exist for some mums. In New Zealand

they have begun to give this advice

2:26:512:26:55

to mums and they have seen a

significant fall in the number of

2:26:552:26:58

babies stillborn.

Right, OK. Thank

you very much for talking to us this

2:26:582:27:03

morning.

2:27:032:27:04

You can get details of organisations

offering support with the issues

2:27:042:27:07

discussed in that film

at bbc.co.uk/actionline

2:27:072:27:13

It's time for the news,

travel and weather where you are.

2:27:132:27:15

Bye for now.

2:30:362:30:38

Hello, this is Breakfast

with Dan Walker and Louise Minchin.

2:30:442:30:49

Have you just dropped something?

Let's bring you the headlines at

2:30:492:30:54

8:30am.

2:30:542:30:55

The Zimbabwean President,

Robert Mugabe, has defied widespread

2:30:552:30:57

demands that he step down.

2:30:572:30:58

In an address to the

nation last night,

2:30:582:31:00

the 93-year-old made no mention

of a resignation even though

2:31:002:31:03

the ruling Zanu-PF party has

given him until 10am today to hand

2:31:032:31:07

over power or face impeachment.

2:31:072:31:15

The American criminal and former

cult leader Charles Manson has died

2:31:152:31:18

in hospital in California. He was

83. His followers committed a series

2:31:182:31:22

of notorious murders in 1969, they

were known as the Manson family.

2:31:222:31:26

They're picked in thing to do the

actress Sharon Tate, the wife of the

2:31:262:31:30

director Roman Polanski, who was at

her Hollywood home at the time.

2:31:302:31:33

Manson himself was initially

sentenced to death before the

2:31:332:31:36

penalty was abolished in California.

2:31:362:31:38

Germany is facing a political crisis

after Angela Merkel's attempts

2:31:382:31:43

to form a three-party coalition

government failed following

2:31:432:31:48

weeks of negotiations.

2:31:482:31:50

The leaders of the pro-business

Free Democrats unexpectedly pulled

2:31:502:31:52

out of talks last night.

2:31:522:31:54

It represents a serious

setback for Mrs Merkel who,

2:31:542:31:56

during 12 years in power,

was seen as a symbol of stable

2:31:562:31:59

government in Europe.

2:31:592:32:00

Polce say there were no injuries

to suggest "any other person

2:32:002:32:02

was involved" in the death

of missing teenager Gaia Pope.

2:32:022:32:08

The 19-year-old's body was found

on Saturday in a field near Swanage,

2:32:082:32:11

11 days after she was last seen.

2:32:112:32:13

Dorset Police are treating her death

as "unexplained" pending

2:32:132:32:15

toxicology results.

2:32:152:32:17

Officials says the search

for an Argentine naval submarine

2:32:172:32:22

that went missing with 44 crew

on board is being hampered

2:32:222:32:24

by bad weather conditions.

2:32:242:32:27

Teams from several countries have

intensified their efforts

2:32:272:32:31

in the South Atlantic to find

the San Juan, which vanished last

2:32:312:32:34

Wednesday off the Argentine coast.

2:32:342:32:37

The US Navy has sent a second ship

with special tracking equipment

2:32:372:32:40

and deep-sea rescue modules

to join the search.

2:32:402:32:48

The government has announced plans

to transform transport links in

2:32:482:32:51

cities across the UK, making it

easier to get from the suburbs to

2:32:512:32:54

the centre. It comes days before

Philip Hammond delivers his first

2:32:542:32:59

autumn budget. Theresa May will join

the Chancellor in the West Midlands

2:32:592:33:01

today to wonder -- unveil plans for

investment and research into new

2:33:012:33:06

technologies including driverless

cars.

2:33:062:33:08

Today it's the 70th wedding

anniversary of the Queen

2:33:082:33:10

and the Duke of Edinburgh.

2:33:102:33:12

They have been married

longer than any other

2:33:122:33:14

Royal couple in history.

2:33:142:33:16

They are celebrating their platinum

wedding anniversary with the release

2:33:162:33:19

of three new portraits and will be

spending their day with friends

2:33:192:33:22

and family privately at Windsor.

2:33:222:33:27

A bit earlier, we heard from Betsy

and Jim, didn't we? They have also

2:33:272:33:31

been married for 70 years and they

were giving us the secret of a

2:33:312:33:34

lengthy marriage. It seemed to be...

Be nice to each other, mostly! That

2:33:342:33:40

seem to be the best way gummy yes.

2:33:402:33:43

And coming up here

on Breakfast this morning.

2:33:432:33:46

He took on the tabloids

in the phone hacking trial.

2:33:462:33:51

Lawyer Mark Lewis will be

here to tell us how he's facing

2:33:512:33:54

the biggest challenge of his life,

as he tries revolutionary stem cell

2:33:542:33:57

treatment for multiple sclerosis.

2:33:572:33:58

After this week's American Smooth

brought their highest score yet,

2:33:582:34:03

we'll be asking Strictly's Gemma

and Aljaz if they can

2:34:032:34:06

dance their way to the top

of the leaderboard.

2:34:062:34:11

Also in Blackpool, Tears For Fears

proved they're still ruling

2:34:212:34:24

the world after their standout

performance on Strictly this week.

2:34:242:34:28

We'll be joined by the band's

Curt Smith just after 9am.

2:34:282:34:32

Some songs just always sound good,

do you know what I mean? It does not

2:34:322:34:36

date, does it? Just doesn't state,

brilliant song. You enjoy that!

It

2:34:362:34:44

reminded me of being young.

And the

judges singing along. Where are we

2:34:442:34:49

starting, a big Ashes week?

In a

couple of days on Brisbane.

2:34:492:34:54

West Ham remain in the Premier

League's relegation zone

2:34:542:34:56

after David Moyes lost his first

game in charge.

2:34:562:34:58

They were beaten 2-0 at Watford.

2:34:582:35:00

Watford's goals came in either half

from Will Hughes and this

2:35:002:35:02

strike from Richarlison.

2:35:022:35:04

Another impressive performance

from Marco Silva's side.

2:35:042:35:07

The Watford boss remains linked

with the vacant manager's job

2:35:072:35:09

at Everton and disappointment

for Moyes in his 500th

2:35:092:35:11

Premier League game as a manager.

2:35:112:35:18

We made a couple of chances to get

ourselves goals and we did not get

2:35:182:35:21

them today. You know, goals change

James Comey you get them, it covers

2:35:212:35:25

a multitude of sins. We didn't take

the chances today. We have to play

2:35:252:35:28

better. I didn't really enjoy bits

of the performance but if we'd got

2:35:282:35:32

the goals than it would have turned

things around a little bit.

2:35:322:35:36

In the Scottish Premiership, Hearts

returned to Tynecastle after six

2:35:362:35:39

months away while the main

stand was redeveloped.

2:35:392:35:45

They could only manage a 1-1 draw

against Partick Thistle though,

2:35:452:35:48

Kris Doolan's late equaliser spoling

the home side's day.

2:35:482:35:50

No Roger Federer, Rafa Nadal

or Andy Murray in the end of season

2:35:502:35:53

World Tour Final in London

but we still got plenty

2:35:532:35:56

of entertainment and a victory

for Grigor Dmitrov.

2:35:562:35:58

He was up against David Goffin

in a final few predicted.

2:35:582:36:00

Dmitrov is called Baby Fed

because his style is like Federer's

2:36:002:36:03

and he showed off his skill

in the decisive third set.

2:36:032:36:06

He went on to win the biggest

title of his career and,

2:36:062:36:09

in the process, earn

nearly £2 million.

2:36:092:36:14

No wonder he needed a lie down!

2:36:142:36:17

The finale to the European golf

season came down to the very last

2:36:172:36:20

hole but Tommy Fleetwood has won

the Race to Dubai for the first

2:36:202:36:23

time, just ahead of fellow

Englishman Justin Rose.

2:36:232:36:25

Rose had started the day in terrific

form but the wheels came

2:36:252:36:28

off his round on the 12th hole,

putting his second

2:36:282:36:31

shot into the water.

2:36:312:36:32

Two more mistakes handed

Fleetwood the title.

2:36:322:36:33

He had an anxious wait

before it was confirmed,

2:36:332:36:39

but it's been quite a year

for the 26-year-old from Southport.

2:36:392:36:43

It's been a big one.

2:36:432:36:45

Baby Frankie arriving

safely and he's great.

2:36:452:36:49

I'm going to get married

in a couple of weeks and yes,

2:36:492:36:52

I mean, it's been the best year

of my life by an absolute mile.

2:36:522:36:56

You know, on the course it's been

great, I've played some of the best

2:36:562:37:02

golf of my career and done things

that I've never done before and off

2:37:022:37:06

the course I'm just such a happy

person, so we'll have to think

2:37:062:37:09

of ways to better this one.

2:37:092:37:11

It's seemed like a long build-up

but England have arrived in Brisbane

2:37:112:37:14

ahead of the first Test at the Gabba

starting on Thursday.

2:37:142:37:17

No Ben Stokes of course

as the all-rounder awaits the result

2:37:172:37:21

of an investigation

into an incident outside a Bristol

2:37:212:37:23

nightclub in September.

2:37:232:37:25

The ECB have said Stokes won't join

the tour while he remains under

2:37:252:37:28

police investigation.

2:37:282:37:29

His team-mates, though,

are still hopeful he can play

2:37:292:37:31

a part at some stage.

2:37:312:37:35

It would be amazing

if Stokesy comes out here.

2:37:352:37:38

I'm sure you guys

all think the same.

2:37:382:37:40

I mean, he's a fantastic cricketer.

2:37:402:37:42

We don't know what is

going on at the moment,

2:37:422:37:46

that's completely out of our hands

and until that's resolved,

2:37:462:37:49

we actually don't know

what is going to happen.

2:37:492:37:51

But I'm sure that it will get

resolved sooner rather

2:37:512:37:56

than later we hope because

at the end of the day,

2:37:562:37:59

we want the best cricketers

playing in the Ashes.

2:37:592:38:02

Like I said, not long to wait,

Thursday Brisbane, they are ready.

2:38:022:38:08

Who are your favourite coupling

Strictly?

Gemma and Aljaz, of course

2:38:082:38:13

but I'm not living, they genuinely

are, I love them, I think they are

2:38:132:38:17

brilliant.

He will bump into them on

the way out because they are on

2:38:172:38:20

their way in. You could do a little

shimmy.

No, not for me.

Those samba

2:38:202:38:31

rolls. I don't know what I'm doing!

That was genuinely funny!

I'm glad

2:38:312:38:37

you enjoyed it.

I will have do watch

it back on my player.

It was a big

2:38:372:38:44

weekend in Blackpool on Strictly,

let's look at the highlights.

2:38:442:38:50

Six.

Six.

2:38:562:38:58

Seven.

Seven.

2:38:582:38:59

MUSIC: The Bear Necessities.

2:38:592:39:04

MUSIC: Ruled The World.

2:39:042:39:09

MUSIC: Ever Fallen In Love.

2:39:092:39:17

MUSIC: You Don't Have

To Say You Love Me.

2:39:192:39:25

MUSIC: Downtown.

2:39:262:39:32

Nine.

Nine.

2:39:352:39:37

Ten.

Ten.

2:39:372:39:40

Oh, my God!

2:39:402:39:43

Gemma and Aljaz join us now.

2:39:502:39:55

Breeze! You just ran in! We were

like, calm down, my goodness, if you

2:39:552:40:02

trip? You have come in in a team

outfit.

I got the memo wrong about

2:40:022:40:09

the genes colour. Sorry.

What a

wonderful weekend. Did you love it?

2:40:092:40:14

I want to do it all again, it felt

amazing, to be dancing up north in

2:40:142:40:18

Blackpool and have my family there

supporting me and Aljaz has been a

2:40:182:40:21

dream all week with a choreography,

it has been amazing to learn and we

2:40:212:40:24

got to perform it, it was great.

I

don't think I've ever seen you quite

2:40:242:40:29

so happy. You did this just then as

well. You did so much of that on

2:40:292:40:32

Saturday night as well. Tell us how

good a student Gemma has been

2:40:322:40:36

because you have won the competition

before but you seem to be enjoying

2:40:362:40:40

teaching Gemma because she's

listening to you.

I'm loving it and

2:40:402:40:45

more the fact that obviously the

dances going really well every

2:40:452:40:48

Saturday but it is really how we get

there. We are having so much fun in

2:40:482:40:52

rehearsals. You know, everybody gets

nervous and Gemma was getting a bit

2:40:522:40:59

nervous every single week but I feel

like now, this Blackpool show, we

2:40:592:41:03

finally did it the way we did it in

rehearsals so when the dance was

2:41:032:41:06

done, I can't tell you how happy I

was, I probably should have composed

2:41:062:41:10

myself a bit better but I didn't!

The bit when years dragging me off,

2:41:102:41:16

he's like... We're almost finished

the dance!

Is the lack of nerves

2:41:162:41:20

because of the Blackpool connection?

You said on Saturday, your dad used

2:41:202:41:24

to take you there. What was the

difference?

I don't know what it

2:41:242:41:28

was, it felt more like a show in

Blackpool to me. It was a lot more

2:41:282:41:32

relaxed.

The actress came out?

Yeah,

I felt a bit more comfortable, I'm

2:41:322:41:38

from up north and I'm in the north

and it dawned on me how lucky I was

2:41:382:41:41

to be in Blackpool and for us to

still be in the condition, and Aljaz

2:41:412:41:44

did to me, no matter what happens,

in five weeks, this is finished for

2:41:442:41:49

everyone to enjoy it, make the most

of it and don't let the last couple

2:41:492:41:51

of weeks be tainted by nerves, so I

thought, right.

And you got lots of

2:41:512:41:57

family, they applied for the tickets

and got it. Paige my mum has applied

2:41:572:42:00

for it via Zoe I told her I was

doing a gig, she asked if they could

2:42:002:42:05

come if I got there so it was great,

lovely to them. If you have not seen

2:42:052:42:10

the results, close your is because

the spoiler is that Jonnie Peacock

2:42:102:42:14

was voted off with Oti. You know

what? I know you saw it but have a

2:42:142:42:21

look at the speech he made

afterwards, let's listen to what

2:42:212:42:24

Jonnie Peacock said to the judges

that everyone who took part in

2:42:242:42:31

Strictly, yesterday.

It's been an

absolute one up to be the first

2:42:312:42:35

disabled person and I want to thank

each and every one of you for

2:42:352:42:38

judging me as an equal.

APPLAUSE

You can criticise me, I want that

2:42:382:42:44

criticism from its fantastic and

hopefully pave the way for more

2:42:442:42:46

people to come through and they may

be able to tax their bottom under a

2:42:462:42:51

bit better than me.

It has been one

of the most life changing things

2:42:512:42:56

that could ever happened to me and

Jonnie is not only in inspiration

2:42:562:43:00

but he presents so much more. If

anybody wants to do anything, if you

2:43:002:43:04

put your mind to it, you can achieve

it and that is what he did.

Clearly,

2:43:042:43:10

you could see the judges were really

emotional.

Yeah.

Knew was fabulous.

2:43:102:43:17

He is such a gent, he is brilliant

because every week, we are there

2:43:172:43:20

with him, he is such a gentleman but

he's also got a really funny streak

2:43:202:43:24

and a really dry sense of humour,

we've had so much fun with him. He's

2:43:242:43:27

going to be missed.

Interesting,

because so many Strictly fans obsess

2:43:272:43:33

over the tiny details and he was

getting criticised for sticking his

2:43:332:43:37

bottom out but rather than saying

part of the problem is his

2:43:372:43:40

prosthetic leg, he always wanted to

be judged in the same way as Roy

2:43:402:43:43

Nelson which is part of the reasons

people enjoyed watching him.

2:43:432:43:47

Absolutely and that is why I think

when we were watching him, you

2:43:472:43:51

tended to forget, because every

single dance that he did was just up

2:43:512:43:59

to the standard. I don't think he

had a bad dance on Strictly and his

2:43:592:44:06

last speech sums up his Strictly

story. It was brilliant and very

2:44:062:44:10

inspiring.

A bit of a shock the

other person in the dance-off. Yeah,

2:44:102:44:21

dance-off, not dance floor.

On the

bouncy dance floor.

Of a shock.

Very

2:44:212:44:28

much so. This whole season, you

know, there has been a very shock

2:44:282:44:33

exit, a couple of weeks ago, and

yeah, it just shows you it is a very

2:44:332:44:37

open season, when we always have to

come back every single week fighting

2:44:372:44:41

as best we can. Yeah, Debbie is an

incredible dancer, and an amazing

2:44:412:44:48

performer and Giovanni is one of my

best mates and you never know who's

2:44:482:44:51

going to be in the dance-off so all

we can do is read as hard as we can

2:44:512:44:57

to try to get through.

The fans get

annoyed because they think in recent

2:44:572:45:01

weeks, I know it is hard for you to

comment, but they think Debbie has

2:45:012:45:04

been over marked. Do you enter into

any of that, thinking, is there some

2:45:042:45:09

kind of scheme going on beneath

everything or do you just

2:45:092:45:12

concentrate on what you're doing?

We

just focus on what we're doing, have

2:45:122:45:16

our blinkers on and Aljaz says to

me, even if the judges give them an

2:45:162:45:19

amazing score and comments, if I

feel the dance could have gone

2:45:192:45:23

better, it could have, if they give

us bad schools and bad, but we did

2:45:232:45:26

our best, that is fine because the

public ultimately, no matter how

2:45:262:45:30

good a dance or how you progress,

the public have the decision whether

2:45:302:45:33

you stay or go. That is what we have

to keep in mind and thank you to

2:45:332:45:37

everyone who has got us this far, so

much.

What is next week because it

2:45:372:45:41

is the paso doble...

-Athon. Every

time you say paso doble coming up to

2:45:412:45:54

put your boss dropped. I paso doble

-athon, what we would do in the

2:45:542:45:58

competitions, so it will be more

than one couple on the floor, which

2:45:582:46:01

means for craft, so we try not to

bump into anyone,... I know, I know!

2:46:012:46:07

I love it when it is on Strictly

because it is very exciting and the

2:46:072:46:12

first time, obviously we do the

group numbers when we are on the

2:46:122:46:16

floor together and it is normally a

lot of fun and a lot of shouting,

2:46:162:46:21

"Go on, go on", but the paso doble,

it goes through so fast so you tried

2:46:212:46:25

to dance the whole way through.

It

is the extreme version or will they

2:46:252:46:32

mark you later?

I don't know how it

will work this year but I hope we

2:46:322:46:35

can do our best!

2:46:352:46:37

You won with Abbey Clancy, what week

did you think we have a chance and

2:46:422:46:46

have you had that moment with Gemma

yet?

With Abbey I remember it like

2:46:462:46:51

it was yesterday. Never I have that

moment, it's just the beauty of it.

2:46:512:46:55

We work so hard from week one to the

very end and as soon as you start

2:46:552:47:00

thinking, I might win this thing and

wherever you are, Blackpool or

2:47:002:47:04

whatever, I think that is when you

get worse and worse. You have to be

2:47:042:47:08

better every single week. There's

such a great talent on the show

2:47:082:47:12

every year so you try to do always

your best and not to try and beat

2:47:122:47:17

anyone but, you know, we could go

all the way but we...

You've said it

2:47:172:47:22

now!

I said "I think". You just need

to work as hard as you possible can

2:47:222:47:28

and we have been doing this from the

very first day of rehearsals.

Thank

2:47:282:47:34

you for following the wear white

memo. I don't know why Dan is

2:47:342:47:38

dressed like this. Thank you so

much.

You are doing your radio show,

2:47:382:47:48

training and then here and then in

the gym as well.

2:47:482:47:53

Strictly Come Dancing continues

on Saturday on BBC One at 6:50pm.

2:47:562:48:06

Carol's here with a look at this

morning's weather...

2:48:092:48:14

Carol's here with a look at this

morning's weather...

2:48:142:48:15

Nice to see Gemma and Aljaz on the

sofa there. It's a lovely day as you

2:48:152:48:20

can see from the weather-watchers.

The leaves are down this week. At

2:48:202:48:25

times it's going to be windy,

particularly so from tomorrow. We'll

2:48:252:48:29

have rain as well. One thing you

will notice is, it's much milder.

2:48:292:48:34

Milder for most of the UK today

because as we go through the week

2:48:342:48:38

that theme will continue. Low

pressure is dominating the weather.

2:48:382:48:42

With this weather front, moving from

west-to-east taking the drizzle with

2:48:422:48:45

it, snow on the hills, in the

Highlands, but we are really covered

2:48:452:48:51

in isobars coming up from the

south-west. That is a mild direction

2:48:512:48:54

for us. You can see how the mild air

pushes steadily across most of the

2:48:542:48:59

UK but not across the far north-east

of Scotland where it will remain

2:48:592:49:02

cold. It's cold at the moment across

most of Scotland, away from the

2:49:022:49:07

west, but from the rest of the UK,

we are already off to a good start.

2:49:072:49:15

In Hazarden in North Wales, it's

already 14 degrees -- in Hawarden in

2:49:152:49:22

North Wales. The cloud will be thick

enough to produce some spots of

2:49:222:49:26

rain. It's the temperatures that are

of interest. 11s and 12s, at this

2:49:262:49:32

time of year it would normally be

seven or eight. A bit of brightness

2:49:322:49:40

in the south-west. Splashes of rain

here. East Wales, Herefordshire, the

2:49:402:49:45

West Midlands, likely to see some

sunshine. In Northern Ireland, you

2:49:452:49:49

will be very lucky. It will be a

cloudy day for you with some spots

2:49:492:49:55

of rain. You can see splashes of

rain here and there through the

2:49:552:49:59

afternoon in Northern Ireland and

still cold.

2:49:592:50:01

Through the evening and overnight,

the rain rejuvenates across

2:50:012:50:04

Scotland. We have a band coming in

from the south-west, moving steadily

2:50:042:50:09

north-east wards. We still have the

south-westerly wind. So it won't be

2:50:092:50:12

as cold in the north of the country

as the night just gone. For the rest

2:50:122:50:16

of the country, look at the

overnight temperatures. They'll be

2:50:162:50:22

pretty good maximum temperatures at

this time of year. Tomorrow, the

2:50:222:50:25

first band of rain continues to push

across Scotland and northern

2:50:252:50:28

Neverland and then a second band

comes in across Northern Ireland.

2:50:282:50:32

Moving from the west once again

towards the east with a lot of cloud

2:50:322:50:36

in-between. Still the south-westerly

wind, still temperatures on the high

2:50:362:50:40

side for this stage in November, ten

in Aberdeen to 14 in Plymouth.

2:50:402:50:46

As we continue through the week, low

pressure also dominates the weather

2:50:462:50:49

for the rest of the week but you can

see we have a couple of cold fronts

2:50:492:50:53

coming our way, which means behind

them, we start to see colder

2:50:532:50:57

conditions. For Wednesday itself, we

still have in the mild weather,

2:50:572:51:01

still a lot of cloud around, and

there's still some spots of rain.

2:51:012:51:06

London, parts of south-west England

and west Wales could easily hit 15

2:51:062:51:10

on Wednesday. Then on Thursday, we

start to see the cold fronts coming

2:51:102:51:15

our way, introducing colder air

behind them. By Friday, at the

2:51:152:51:19

moment, it's looking like snow on

the hills as far south as Wales. So

2:51:192:51:24

change is afoot.

2:51:242:51:25

Mark Lewis first stepped

into the public eye as the lawyer

2:51:302:51:33

who took on the tabloids,

representing the victims

2:51:332:51:35

of phone hacking.

2:51:352:51:37

Now he is in the thick

of a battle of his own.

2:51:372:51:40

Diagnosed with multiple

sclerosis when he was 25,

2:51:402:51:43

a new documentary follows him

as he goes to Israel

2:51:432:51:45

for experimental new treatment.

2:51:452:51:46

We'll speak to him in

a moment but first, let's

2:51:462:51:49

have a look at the programme.

2:51:492:51:50

Give me your right hand.

2:51:502:51:56

He couldn't do that two hours

ago, three hours ago.

2:51:562:52:00

He couldn't do...

2:52:002:52:04

Look.

2:52:042:52:05

Oh, my goodness, yeah,

you couldn't do that earlier.

2:52:052:52:08

He couldn't do move or...

2:52:082:52:10

Do you remember, he could never

shake somebody's hand?

2:52:102:52:13

Watch my left leg.

2:52:132:52:17

I can lift my right leg, look.

2:52:172:52:20

You could not move

your right leg at all.

2:52:202:52:23

OK, so that's quite good.

2:52:232:52:25

Look, look, you couldn't

move it forward, even...

2:52:252:52:27

He couldn't make it...

2:52:272:52:29

You couldn't see anything

with the right leg before.

2:52:292:52:32

I can do things, like, look.

2:52:322:52:35

Yeah, look!

2:52:352:52:39

If this is now, a couple

of hours afterwards...

2:52:392:52:41

Yeah.

2:52:412:52:44

What is going to be tomorrow?

2:52:442:52:45

Mark joins us now.

2:52:452:52:51

Mark is with us now. I've watched

the documentary.

Amazing.

Let's back

2:52:512:52:55

up from that moment because that is

the moment you have been given the

2:52:552:52:59

treatment and this is two hours

later. Before you were given the

2:52:592:53:03

treatment, it's experimental isn't

it, what kind of differences were

2:53:032:53:06

there in your physical appearance

and what you were able to do?

You

2:53:062:53:11

could find the day before, hours

before, I mean look the best way of

2:53:112:53:16

putting it is that I went to the

ward in a wheelchair to have the

2:53:162:53:20

treatment and I came back walking, I

mean not in a wheelchair permanently

2:53:202:53:25

but for long journeys I would use a

wheelchair and I could walk and not

2:53:252:53:29

just walk but walk without a walking

stick.

OK. So that was two hours

2:53:292:53:33

after you had the treatment.

Phenomenal.

Absolutely. I've shaken

2:53:332:53:37

your hand today.

Yes.

Oh, look at

that.

I said to the producer if at

2:53:372:53:44

the end of the programme I shake

hands with my right hand I'll know

2:53:442:53:48

it's there because I used to shake

with my left hand flicking it around

2:53:482:53:52

and I've done that for probably ten

years.

Before you had this

2:53:522:53:56

treatment, what sort of life were

you living and how did it effect

2:53:562:54:00

you?

I've always tried to live my

life and do as much as I can but

2:54:002:54:07

basically I'd work and then I'd

sleep to try and recuperate to be

2:54:072:54:13

able to work again and it's opened

up the ability to do more things.

2:54:132:54:20

One of the things is fatigue with

MS. Very long days. Not being able

2:54:202:54:30

to do things. It's not just an

attitude but it's the ability to get

2:54:302:54:35

on with things.

It's the technical

medical process, removing something

2:54:352:54:41

from you and re-injecting it back

in, explain how it works?

It's your

2:54:412:54:46

own donor. When you were looking in

the past for bone marrow doe

2:54:462:54:51

north-west who were matches, they

take your stem cell from your own

2:54:512:54:54

bone marrow and clone it like Dolly

the Sheep. They haven't turned med

2:54:542:55:00

into a sheep but they clone it, they

do some magic with the stem cell and

2:55:002:55:05

put it back in. Incredibly painful

when they inject it back because

2:55:052:55:10

it's injected back into your spine.

But the result, two hours, I mean

2:55:102:55:15

look it's in Jerusalem and it's a

miracle. It was a good place for a

2:55:152:55:20

miracle cure!

At the moment it's a

testing process and it's called a

2:55:202:55:26

double blind, is that right?

It's a

double blind trial, it means neither

2:55:262:55:31

the Professor in charge of it or the

medical crew know and the patient

2:55:312:55:35

doesn't know so you might be given a

placebo that is imaginary so I've

2:55:352:55:41

had two shots, the first was

miraculous, the second one could

2:55:412:55:45

well have been a placebo, it did

nothing so. We think it probably is

2:55:452:55:50

a placebo.

When will they know the

results of this?

There are 48

2:55:502:55:56

patients and the trial is ongoing.

When they've worked on the patients,

2:55:562:56:01

they'll where the paper. Hopefully

it's worked out and they'll then

2:56:012:56:05

roll it out to the 2.5 million

people worldwide who'll benefit.

If

2:56:052:56:09

you are watching this this morning

and struggling with MS, you just

2:56:092:56:13

think, how much is it going to cost

and will it be paid for, I suppose,

2:56:132:56:17

if it becomes a viable drug? Or a

viable process?

There are always

2:56:172:56:23

problems with paying for medical

treatment which I actually hate. The

2:56:232:56:27

people will look at things and try

to do the maths as to whether or not

2:56:272:56:31

it works out. If it makes you

better, you know, then really you

2:56:312:56:36

need to get it, not just for me, but

for everybody else. But it's there

2:56:362:56:40

and we should be doing it. I mean I

seriously think that within the next

2:56:402:56:45

five to ten years, MS will be

crossed off as a disease that used

2:56:452:56:48

to be a problem and is no longer a

problem.

We see in the programme

2:56:482:56:53

about what it's done to your brain

and they talk about your scarring

2:56:532:56:58

and perhaps the brain may be

shrinking as well. Have you lacked

2:56:582:57:02

back at that and is that making a

difference to your brain as well?

2:57:022:57:06

Fortunately my brain is rather

good...

I know!

And I don't want to

2:57:062:57:11

lose clients when I have this but I

do have tests on the programme which

2:57:112:57:15

probably shows that I out-remember

anybody in terms of being given

2:57:152:57:20

digits to come up with and being

able to sort them out in order.

Do

2:57:202:57:23

you think in some ways then you are

a super patient? ?

I think I'm a

2:57:232:57:30

very difficult patient and what we

can say before the watershed, I

2:57:302:57:33

would be different after the

watershed in my comments, but I'm

2:57:332:57:39

possibly a difficult patient.

They

were looking when they took people

2:57:392:57:44

on board, with a particular type of

determination?

There is an attitude

2:57:442:57:51

thing that they think that if you

wanted to work, it will help and I

2:57:512:57:55

certainly want it to work and gave

everything for it to work.

People

2:57:552:57:59

who see you on the sofa might not

realise the difference it's made and

2:57:592:58:03

how frustrating the condition can

be. Here is another clip which shows

2:58:032:58:09

how MS can effect day-to-day life.

You are all very clever when you are

2:58:092:58:14

disabled. I lifted them or something

or just push it...

2:58:142:58:20

Why is Mark heading towards the

freeway?

Because Mark is really

2:58:292:58:36

frustrated with his limitations and

he'll take it out on everyone else.

2:58:362:58:40

He's so sure that he knows the right

way of doing it. But...

2:58:402:58:47

I'm horrible. I'm horrible to people

who want to help me because it's

2:58:492:58:55

soul destroying. Even that they

recognise that I need help, it makes

2:58:552:59:04

me embarrassed, it's like, please

leave me alone.

You can feel and see

2:59:042:59:08

the frustration. You are probably a

unique person to answer this, do

2:59:082:59:11

people treat you differently in a

wheelchair or on a mobility scooter?

2:59:112:59:21

It's incredible, people come to me,

I'm wearing a suit and I'm sat

2:59:212:59:24

behind a desk and they will ask

midwives but the minute you are in a

2:59:242:59:27

wheelchair and you go somewhere,

people don't talk to you, they talk

2:59:272:59:30

to the person putting it, "Does he

like sugar in his tea?" They don't

2:59:302:59:36

just think you are in a wheelchair

because you can't walk or you have a

2:59:362:59:40

physical limitation, your brain has

gone and you feel like saying to

2:59:402:59:43

them, "Now, just listen to me..."

You don't want to play, "Do you know

2:59:432:59:55

who I am?" But I'm probably cleverer

than you and out thank you and out

2:59:552:59:58

to challenge you, I just got walk as

well as you and I can't use my hands

2:59:583:00:01

as well as you do but overall, I

will probably be to you.

Is it

3:00:013:00:04

frustrating?

Very frustrating. I

know I'm very difficult to live with

3:00:043:00:06

and I'm very difficult to cope with

but it is a frustration with myself

3:00:063:00:12

because when you dream, if you are a

disabled person and you dream, you

3:00:123:00:17

don't dream disabled, when I'm

asleep, I can run and do everything

3:00:173:00:20

and I wake up and I can't do it and

that is just the frustration of

3:00:203:00:24

knowing it can be done, knowing what

I want my body to do but knowing it

3:00:243:00:31

won't follow.

It is wonderful to

meet you and a fantastic documentary

3:00:313:00:35

and good luck to you with the rest

of your treatment.

3:00:353:00:37

The Search for a Miracle Cure is

on Channel 4 on Thursday at 10pm.

3:00:373:00:42

It's a brilliant programme. Mark,

thank you.

3:00:423:00:44

Forecasts out today from the UK's

largest card provider are predicting

3:00:443:00:47

that we'll be cutting back

on spending this Christmas

3:00:473:00:49

compared to last.

3:00:493:00:55

We sent Steph to buy some presents,

I think.

3:00:553:01:01

Good morning, everyone! Lots of

presents here. You can see this is a

3:01:013:01:05

distribution centre of the

co-operative group ones so you have

3:01:053:01:08

around three and a half thousand

different product lines and they

3:01:083:01:10

will be zipped off to around 260

shops in the north of England. About

3:01:103:01:17

400 people work here. A busy

operation, particularly in the

3:01:173:01:21

festive period, of course, so they

are getting ready and gearing up for

3:01:213:01:24

Christmas. For them, a busy time but

we're talking about the retail

3:01:243:01:29

sector overall at moment because new

research out today about this from

3:01:293:01:34

Visa, the credit card company, who

are talking about our spending and

3:01:343:01:38

suggesting, their analysts, that we

won't spend as much

3:01:383:01:41

suggesting, their analysts, that we

won't spend as much this festive

3:01:413:01:41

period as we have done in other

years, and that is because of the

3:01:413:01:45

pressure on wages. If you look at

the numbers around this, it is

3:01:453:01:49

things like we won't spend as much

on travel, on household goods,

3:01:493:01:54

big-ticket items and clothing as

well, so fashion is feeling the

3:01:543:01:57

pressure and if you look at why that

is, it is because of inflation, the

3:01:573:02:02

fact prices have been going up

faster than wages. In real terms, it

3:02:023:02:08

means we don't have as much money to

spend but when we are spending the

3:02:083:02:12

money, if you look at how we are

spending it, in the shops or online,

3:02:123:02:16

lost over a third is spent online

compared to in the shops, that is

3:02:163:02:19

what they are expecting this

Christmas. There are some numbers

3:02:193:02:22

for you and information and we have

some guests to chat to, Diane and

3:02:223:02:25

James. Diane,

3:02:253:02:27

some guests to chat to, Diane and

James. Diane, just on that issue of

3:02:273:02:30

income and it's not going up as fast

as inflation prices, that is where

3:02:303:02:35

the real pressure is, isn't it?

It

is, salaries are going up by one or

3:02:353:02:40

2% but prices are going up by at

least 3% across-the-board, on

3:02:403:02:44

average, so some prices are going up

more than that and some less than.

3:02:443:02:49

But for a household, it is a big

wage gap and price difference and

3:02:493:02:52

they have to make it up.

When we are

talking about the actual pressure on

3:02:523:02:58

household at the moment, which

retailers do you think will suffer

3:02:583:03:02

from this? I mentioned a couple of

things around fashion, that is a

3:03:023:03:05

tough one for people.

Fashion is

really tough because it is

3:03:053:03:09

discretionary to a great degree, you

can manage with what you've got as

3:03:093:03:12

long as you've got clothes so you

don't necessarily need to shift into

3:03:123:03:17

new fashion. Large ticket items will

also likely come under pressure

3:03:173:03:20

because of the amount you need to

spend on them. It is those products

3:03:203:03:23

that are struggling and those have

seen big increases in price. People

3:03:233:03:29

naturally over the last couple of

years have been moving much more

3:03:293:03:33

towards experience and leisure

spend, wanting to spend their money

3:03:333:03:35

when they go out on eating out, and

spending time with their family and

3:03:353:03:40

doing leisure activities rather than

buying things. That is a double

3:03:403:03:43

pressure.

But we are still buying a

lot online and James, tell us about

3:03:433:03:48

what different it is making to

logistics and jobs.

We have seen a

3:03:483:03:53

massive growth in jobs in the

logistics industry so we have

3:03:533:03:57

estimated that since 2010, an

additional 130,000 jobs have been

3:03:573:04:02

created in logistics which now

totals about 1.8 million, lots of

3:04:023:04:06

jobs with us, parroting the data

behind this online activities during

3:04:063:04:10

the Black Friday weekend last year,

we processed about 24 million

3:04:103:04:16

address verification checks, peaking

at about 500 per second. It is

3:04:163:04:20

critical that firms get data quality

right because that enables them to

3:04:203:04:24

be seamless.

But you would say that,

working for your company!

Data is

3:04:243:04:29

one of the powers behind the UK

economy and organisations that don't

3:04:293:04:33

get data rights are not able to

provide a seamless service, from

3:04:333:04:37

order to delivery and don't tend to

have happy customers.

Thank you for

3:04:373:04:40

joining us. I appreciate your time

this morning. That is it from me

3:04:403:04:44

this morning.

Thank you, Steph. Some breaking news

3:04:443:04:50

in the last few minutes, we are just

hearing that the 1998 Wimbledon

3:04:503:04:57

tennis champion, Yana Novotna, has

died after a long battle with

3:04:573:05:00

cancer. She died peacefully in the

Czech Republic surrounded by her

3:05:003:05:05

family and friends. You will

remember famously, this is winning

3:05:053:05:08

the Wimbledon singles finally 1998

and she had famously lost a number

3:05:083:05:16

of files before that, once to Steffi

Graf a few years before where she

3:05:163:05:19

was 4-1 up in the decider, and

double-faulted, and she lost that

3:05:193:05:24

match eventually and she cried on

the Duchess of Kent's shoulder. She

3:05:243:05:30

was taken into the hearts of the

British public, winning Wimbledon in

3:05:303:05:34

1998, was so fondly remembered,

celebrate and cried again but tears

3:05:343:05:38

of joy that time rather than tears

of sadness, really sad news today

3:05:383:05:41

about the death of Jana Novotna. It

is 9:05pm.

3:05:413:07:25

They started their musical careers

as two-fifths of a rock band,

3:07:313:07:34

but seeing electronic pioneer

Gary Numan perform sent Curt Smith

3:07:343:07:37

and Roland Orzabal off

in an entirely different musical

3:07:373:07:40

direction.

3:07:403:07:44

Eighties extraordinaires Tears

for Fears provided the soundtrack

3:07:443:07:47

to the decade with the hits Shout

and Everybody Wants to Rule

3:07:473:07:53

the World, and they have continued

to play to audiences throughout

3:07:533:07:56

the world, most recently rocking

the Blackpool Tower Ballroom

3:07:563:07:58

during this weekend's Strictly.

3:07:583:07:59

We'll speak to Curt in a moment,

but first let's remind ourselves

3:07:593:08:02

of some of their hits.

3:08:023:08:06

Lovely to see you on Strictly, by

the way.

3:08:063:08:11

# Welcome to your life

3:08:113:08:14

# There's no turning back

3:08:143:08:18

# Even while we sleep

3:08:183:08:22

# We will find you

3:08:223:08:25

# Acting on your best behaviour

# Turn your back on mother nature

3:08:253:08:33

# Everybody wants

to rule the world #.

3:08:333:08:38

# Shout, shout,

Let it all out

3:08:393:08:43

# These are the things

I can do without

3:08:433:08:48

# Come on, I'm talking

to you

3:08:483:08:52

# Come on #.

3:08:523:08:56

# And I find it kind of funny

I find it kind of sad

3:08:563:09:00

# The dreams in which I'm dying

Are the best I've ever had

3:09:003:09:04

# I find it hard to tell you

'Cause I find it hard to take

3:09:043:09:07

# When people run in circles

It's a very, very

3:09:073:09:12

# Mad world, mad world #.

3:09:123:09:20

It's a wonderful looking back for

some of us they a certain age.

3:09:203:09:23

Lovely to see you.

Thank you.

I'm

just talking to you because I've got

3:09:233:09:28

teenagers are so many of your songs

have been covered and there's been a

3:09:283:09:31

real resurgence, what is it like for

you?

Well, it works for us and I'm

3:09:313:09:36

suddenly cooled to my children and I

have two teenage girls, 16 and 18

3:09:363:09:41

when they see their favourite bands

citing us as an influence, suddenly

3:09:413:09:45

I am is a cool dad.

Nice! A

resurgence in itself.

Exactly.

3:09:453:09:52

Perbet, tell us about Three because

millions of people will have seen

3:09:523:09:56

you perform on Saturday. Was it a

bit weird?

It was a bit surreal

3:09:563:10:00

because I thought there might be

dancers at the front and their word,

3:10:003:10:03

so you were kind of singing, well,

in front of you was an empty

3:10:033:10:08

ballroom with the audience around

the side and above but it was nice

3:10:083:10:11

to see the audience getting into it

and singing along.

Not just the

3:10:113:10:15

audience, the judges as well!

Yes, I

saw. It was good because if I forgot

3:10:153:10:21

the lyrics, I could watch them.

When

that song was originally released at

3:10:213:10:25

the height of the Cold War,

interestingly, watching it at the

3:10:253:10:28

weekend, it is still incredibly

relevant now.

Yeah, I think that

3:10:283:10:33

some things don't change. I think

the people change. Back then when

3:10:333:10:37

the song was written, it was about

the Cold War so it was Reagan and

3:10:373:10:41

Russia and now it is still America

and North Korea. It is always, it

3:10:413:10:48

seems to be relevant, there always

seems to be a war going on

3:10:483:10:51

somewhere.

We talked about the

covers and the rest of it, is that,

3:10:513:10:56

when you listen to what people have

done with your songs, how do you

3:10:563:11:00

feel?

I think it depends on the

version. I find it really enjoyable

3:11:003:11:05

and fascinating when people do it in

a different way than we did it. I

3:11:053:11:09

mean, there are certain versions of

songs like the Mad World cover that

3:11:093:11:16

was the number one in England, where

the recording is more true to the

3:11:163:11:20

lyrics are now version because our

version was quite up-tempo and the

3:11:203:11:22

lyrics are quite depressing. -- then

our version. I find those

3:11:223:11:28

interesting to hear.

We saw some of

your 80s haircuts, there. That is a

3:11:283:11:33

beauty.

The fact I had some!

The

haircut has changed a lot over the

3:11:333:11:38

years but how has the same elements

changed?

I think it is different, it

3:11:383:11:43

depends on where you live. For me, I

grew up in Bath, I was born in Bath

3:11:433:11:49

and lived there until I was 27 and

then I moved to New York and then LA

3:11:493:11:53

so I have been in the States for 30

years now, hence my somewhat

3:11:533:11:57

mid-Atlantic accent. When you are in

a bigger city like New York or LA,

3:11:573:12:03

it does not really affect you

because I am really, to be honest,

3:12:033:12:07

one of the least famous people you

will see that day.

You have got an

3:12:073:12:14

album out and most of the songs we

are very familiar with and you have

3:12:143:12:17

been writing new material as well.

Most of it is finished, yeah, two

3:12:173:12:21

new tracks on the greatest hits that

has just come out that were taken

3:12:213:12:25

from what is going to be a new

project so we have to replace those

3:12:253:12:31

on that album but the rest of the

album is done so in January or

3:12:313:12:34

February next year, we are going to

finish that record and so the new

3:12:343:12:37

album should be out next May, it is

slated for.

And you will be touring?

3:12:373:12:43

Yes, we are, so I'm told!

We will

get dates at a later stage I'm sure

3:12:433:12:50

but you were at the whirl Abu Tor a

few weeks ago. The last time you

3:12:503:12:53

were there, is this right, 1985?

That's quite a gap!

32 years between

3:12:533:12:59

playing the Albert Hall. It was

fascinating because I was a little

3:12:593:13:02

nervous about it because when we

played there in 1985, the audience

3:13:023:13:08

was quite reserved because the

Albert Hall is one of those venues

3:13:083:13:10

where the hall is really more

important than you and it is very

3:13:103:13:13

formal and amazing to look at. And

the audience was very quiet at the

3:13:133:13:18

beginning and cried off, you had to

work to get them going. But this

3:13:183:13:22

time, they were standing from the

opening moments of Everybody Wants

3:13:223:13:27

To Rule The World and all the way

through. It was an amazing show.

3:13:273:13:30

Lovely to see you. Thank you for

joining us.

3:13:303:13:34

The new album is called

Rule the World.

3:13:343:13:36

That's all we've got time for this

morning on Breakfast.

3:13:363:13:38

We'll both be back tomorrow from 6am

here on BBC One when we'll be

3:13:383:13:41

joined by the singer Paloma Faith.

3:13:413:13:43

Until then, have a good day.

3:13:433:13:44

Bye bye.

3:13:443:13:45

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