02/12/2017 - Part 2 Breakfast

Hello, this is Breakfast with

Naga Munchetty and Charlie Stayt.

Coming up before 9.00, Darren Bett

will have a summary of the weather.

But first, at 8.30,

this is this morning's main news:

Donald Trump's former national

security advisor, Michael Flynn,

is prepared to testify

against the President's

son-in-law, Jared Kushner,

according to US media reports.

It's thought Mr Flynn,

who pleaded guilty to making false

statements to the FBI,

will say he was directed to hold

discussions with Kremlin officials

by senior members of Trump's

campaign team, including Mr Kushner.

The White House says Mr Flynn has

implicated no-one but himself.

The UK National Cyber Security

Centre has warned government

departments not to use

Russian anti-virus software

if their computers contain sensitive

information.

The Russian company, Kaspersky Lab,

was banned from US government

networks earlier this year,

because of concerns it had ties

to intelligence agencies in Moscow.

The company denies having

links to the Kremlin.

Despite its warning,

the National Cyber Security Centre

says the general public shouldn't be

concerned about using the software.

Our guidance is to choose

an anti-virus product that

meets your needs and does well

in industry standard tests.

We're not saying, and we

specifically say this

in our guidance on the blog,

that we are not telling people

to rip out Kaspersky

willy-nilly because that

makes no sense.

This is about entities that may be

of interest to the Russian

government, so for us that's

about national security

systems in government,

of which there are very small

number, and for example

if you have a business negotiation

that the Russian government

may be interested in.

Two former police officers

who leaked allegations that

pornographic images had been found

on the Tory minister,

Damian Green's computer,

were in "flagrant breach"

of their own code of conduct,

according to the former

Attorney General, Dominic Grieve.

Mr Green, now the First Secretary

of State, has repeated his

insistence that he didn't view

pornographic material

on the computer.

The former Attorney General said

he found the behaviour

of the ex-officers troubling.

They choose to put material that

an ordinary citizen would be

prohibited from acquiring under data

protection rules into the public

domain on their own judgment...

Now, there is a way

of dealing with that.

If you think something is relevant,

you do it by proper, official means.

You do not go freelancing,

as these two officers have done,

and it has the smack of the police

state about it.

Pope Francis is spending his

final day in Bangladesh,

after using his highly-anticipated

Asia trip to express support

for the Rohingya Muslims.

Yesterday, the Pope met a group

of refugees and referred to them

using the word "Rohingya"

for the first time.

He was criticised for not

using the term on his earlier visit

to Myanmar, which does not regard

them as an ethnic group.

White House officials have indicated

that President Trump is likely

to announce next week

that the United States

will recognise Jerusalem

as the capital of Israel.

The status of Jerusalem

is highly contentious,

with both Israelis and Palestinians

claiming all or part

of the city as their capital.

Critics have warned

that the decision by Donald Trump

could jeopardise peace negotiations.

It's feared there could be hundreds

of job losses at Toys R Us,

after the retailer announced it

would close around

a quarter of its UK stores.

The move, which would see

the closure of 25 shops,

is part of a deal by the owners

to renegotiate debts

with its landlords.

It's thought christmas trading

and gift vouchers will not be

affected by the move.

Refugee families who are being

resettled in the UK from Syria,

should not be forced to split up,

and be allowed to bring children,

up to the age of 25, with them.

The British Red Cross is calling

for current rules to be relaxed,

so that older family members are not

left behind in war zones.

This week, the Home Office announced

that over the past two years around

9,000 Syrians had been allowed

into the UK under its Vulnerable

Person Resettlement Scheme.

Let's be clear.

We are talking about children

who are part of the family unit.

People watching this now,

think of your family,

the children who still live at home,

who may be away studying.

That's what we're talking about.

Let's bring those

families back together.

Families belong together.

A new scheme, which aims

to recognise more places and people

with historic importance,

is set to be launched

by Historic England.

The heritage body wants people

to suggest sites that deserve to be

permanently acknowledged,

but aren't already

marked with a plaque.

The campaign will be

piloted over three years.

A huge waterspout has

formed off Italy.

It was spotted off the coast

of Sanremo, before moving

inland as a tornado.

The weather phenomenon caused

significant damage to the city,

but luckily no-one was hurt.

With the wind gathers and the force

of that draws water up into the air.

This phenomenon and dead cause

damage to the city. We will see

pictures -- the phenomenon and

caused significant damage to the

city. You can see items from boats

being whipped up by winds and water.

But luckily nobody was hurt.

Dramatic images.

8:35am is the time. Now the sport.

Later on... We will know who is the

rugby league World Cup winner.

Will it be Australia again? There

are so confident and they have won

three out of the last four are not

even the lead story in the Brisbane

Times but forth on their website.

England are in the imagine anything

could happen.

England must play on the

overconfidence by Australia and can

draw on the heard of some years ago

when they did not even make it into

the final because of New Zealand in

London at Wembley. They can draw on

those years of hurt and then back to

1995 when England were in last place

in the World Cup final and guess who

they lost to? Australia and

Australia have already beaten them

in the group stages of this year's

permit. But the gap at because these

travelling fans are confident there

can provide a big upset.

I'm very helpful.

Cos I've put a big bet on.

Really good atmosphere,

but I think the home of

rugby league is back in the UK.

We started it.

We need the England

boys to win, for sure.

22 years, man, come on!

England this year have just been

so much better than recently,

so, you know, we are actually

in the chance, I think.

We've been around all day and we've

been around all week,

actually, and it's been all week.

The final is live on BBC One, where

the build-up is already under way.

You can also follow

the match on Radio 5 Live

and via the BBC Sport website.

We will keep you up-to-date on BBC

Two as well and the news channel.

Down in Brisbane, England are

warming up in the dark blue shirts

and not a sell-out but Australia are

overconfident. They are hoping for

40,000 fans inside the stadium.

There is the captain for today, Sam

Burgess. McLauchlan is injured.

Popping over 40,000 inside and

52,000 capacity stadium. 6000

England fans from England

supporting, and there will be a

fantastic atmosphere full of

friendly rivalry and banter. A great

shot of the warm up from above as

they swing there are likes. Sam

Burgess is the captain today. He was

captain in the four Nations and has

experienced. Australia taking a lie

down and a stretch. Insight into how

they warm up with the exercises...

Just like the breakfast team here.

Yes, that is what we were doing.

England looked relaxed and they have

learned a lot from their opening

game defeat against Australia. 18-4.

Brian Noble earlier was saying that

he thinks England will produce a

surprise today. He was the last

person to inspire a victory for

Great Britain and it was not England

over Australia back in 2006, was it?

Some pictures of

buses... And now the cricket.

We've had two rain

interruptions on day one

of the second Ashes Test,

but play well under

way again in Adelaide.

England made an early breakthrough,

after some confusion

between the Australian openers.

They tried to take advantage

of a miss-field from

England, but it backfired.

Australia are getting on top despite

that early breakthrough.

Yes,

Australia 137-2 in their first

innings. The sun has been peeking

out from behind the crowds in

Adelaide, which was nice. We have

had some like the rain delays this

afternoon and the weather has not

been inviting for the thousands of

fans that were queueing up here

outside the stadium earlier on

today. 53,000 in total, which is a

record for the Adelaide Oval. It was

cold and Chile. It was damp and it

was not pleasant for the fans, and

barely had they played away than we

had to link the rain delays, so they

could regroup. England won the toss

and they chose to bowl a brave move

from Joe route. They did eventually

make the breakthrough for an

unlikely source, a run out. Cameron

Bancroft, a run out by Chris Wouk 's

410. It was a right old mix-up from

the Australian openers. A mis-field

from Moeen Ali. To run out Cameron

Bancroft... A superb field from him

and then they lost a second wicket

later. The other opener, David

Warner, cot behind off the bowling

of Chris, 47. Australia were two

down at that point. They should

thankfully be three down because

another has been dropped in the

team. He reached his half-century

and captain Steve Smith is in.

Interesting verbal exchange between

Steve Smith and Stewart broad. Some

bad blood you sense between teams.

Australia going nicely, 137-2.

How much pressure is there on

England? They lost the opening test

in Brisbane. Michael Vaughan has

been saying this test in Adelaide is

a must win because they like playing

these days night matches with the

pink rather than Red Bulls.

Gas,

-- read balls.

The first Ashes day night test and

the first time they have been using

one of these, a pink ball, and this

was the one they were using. Moeen

Ali was bowling with this, so thank

you to England for letting us borrow

it. It is pink because it is easier

to see under floodlights than the

traditional red one. But there is a

sense that it does behave

differently as well. Simply during

the twilight session, which is

coming up over the next hour or so,

a sense that it does swing a bit

more. That in favour of the England

bowlers, like Jimmy Anderson, and

Stewart broad, are good and I can

all swing. More tricky for the

batsman to pick up under

floodlights. The next hour or so

could be pivotal for England. They

will need to make this pink ball

swing and get it into this Test

match.

Thank you very much. And the Swiss,

you must get that ball signed and

then bring it back to the kids as a

souvenir. Now let's speak to

somebody in London. What have you

made a reaction so far? Do you agree

with Michael Vaughan, because it is

a day and night match with the pink

ball, England have to win it?

Yes, England have been positive.

There was negativity around this and

everybody talking about, if we could

get out of Brisbane with a draw it

would be superb. We lost and got

hammered. It in by ten wickets. In

Adelaide, straightaway Arisaig --

there is a positivity. England

bowled the new pink hole and

snowballing into twilight. Two shots

to bowl out Australia. -- the pink

ball. Positivity is there anything

in there and have bowled with

aggression and a plan but Australia

has just started to get on top of

this.

It looks great behind you in the pub

in London. Just take us back to your

days, when people were sledging in

Australia, because Jimmy Anderson

said it was the worst he had known.

How that might affect the Ashes

tour?

Once you got through the airport in

Australia, it starts. The media are

on your back, and you realise there

will be a battle from start to

finish. And the young lads in the

first Tents, they will do absolutely

superb. The only ones who will be

angry will be our tail and when they

got stuck in... They got stuck into

Route, and big players for us, so an

ethical ready yards in again, from

England, you have seen and

aggression to Smith, the captain,

they attacked Smith. Trying to get

on top and show that. You should

see... I am drinking IPA with people

here. Australians are watching here

and watching the game together. It

has been fantastic. There is

probably more here than out there on

the pitch.

Will have do hope for England that

they can try to get some more

wickets in the session after dinner.

And other lager brands are available

and many will be drunk, I imagine,

today.

Is there an excuse for an early

table, since the rugby is on at 9am?

Decadent at... Even at an airport,

you see people having lager at an

airport at this time of day.

Quite closely seen the odd tipple.

Pub landlords have been toasting

England's World Cup draw,

because all of their games in Russia

will be played at 7pm in the evening

or Sunday afternoon,

so people don't have

to take time off work.

They can all get together to watch,

perhaps in a pub.

Diego Maradona was the man

who pulled England's name out

of the pot in the Kremlin.

Gareth Southgate's side

are in a group with Belgium,

Tunisia and Panama, but he says

a good draw on paper

doesn't mean anything, given

England's recent World Cup record.

We've been good at writing teams off

and then getting beaten,

so we have to make sure that we're

prepared for all of those games.

It's fantastically exciting

to be here for the draw

with every other coach.

It's been a great experience

and really looking forward

to getting on with it.

The big game in the Premier League

today is the evening kick-off

between Arsenal and Manchester

United.

Celtic play Motherwell in Scotland,

and the FA Cup continues.

Last night, non-league

AFC Fylde, earned a replay

with Wigan Athletic of League One,

Danny Rowe's penalty

giving them a 1-1 draw.

So both sides will be

in Monday's third-round draw.

Newcastle snatched a very late

victory at Northampton,

There is no Dan Walker in the studio

because he is travelling for the FA

Cup. He goes on tour and I think he

is going to Fleetwood today. Find

out where he is at 12 o'clock. I

think it is power hour so don't miss

it.

Alfie Hewett has joined

Gordon Reid in the semi-finals

of the Wheelchair Tennis Masters.

He came from a set down to beat

Stephane Houdet of France.

Reid and Hewett are the reigning

Wimbledon doubles champions.

There's live coverage

from Loughborough on the BBC Sport

website and connected

televisions from 11.00.

Tiger Woods said he'd

proved his latest back

operation had been a success,

after he shot another under-par

round, at the Hero World

Challenge in the Bahamas.

It's his first tournament for almost

a year, but he's now seven under,

at the half-way stage,

tied for fifth place.

Charley Hoffman is the leader.

England's Tommy Fleetwood

who was leading is three shots back.

It is so busy with the World Cup

final and rugby league to begin.

People have been asking about the

new year but Wales and South Africa

is in rugby union. Last of the

autumn internationals. You were

edging to tell me something about

pink bowls or coloured balls?

Do you know how Andy Smith was

talking about the pink cricket ball.

And the red Cricket ball. There is a

thing in golf, they are

introducing... There have always

been coloured balls but there is a

new brand and one of them is read

and I was trying to play with this,

and one of the things I noticed, you

know opposite colours, you learn

your opposite colours... Red and

green are opposite... Actually, it

looks very difficult. I found it

difficult to hit it because of the

stark contrast between green and

red. It is against the grass but I

wondered how that would affect the

game? When you have got such...

White... It is similar.

No, green and red because it is

against grass.

The pink ball is not that different

to the red ball but if you go in

golf from a white ball to a rebel it

is a jumper. Charlie drinks his cup

of tea. A tumbleweed flies over...

I don't think there is a tumbleweed

that it is interesting the way

colours about sports. Changing

technology...

A lot of players play domestically,

so it probably takes some getting

used to.

And technology goes across different

sports. They pick up ideas against

each other.

Rugby league final pick-up at nine.

Australia start 71 on.

It's 8.46 and you're watching

Breakfast from BBC News.

The main stories this morning:

Donald Trump's former security

advisor, who admitted lying

to the FBI, could be prepared

to testify against the

President's son-in-law over

contacts with Russia.

Government departments

are being advised not to use

anti-virus software from the Russian

company, Kaspersky Lab,

because of concerns it has links

to the Kremlin.

Here's Darren Bett with a look

at this morning's weather.

Here's Darren Bett with a look

at this morning's weather.

Still quite cold across the eastern

side of England this morning. Slowly

but surely weather is changing. We

will find it turning milder through

the weekend. Rather than blue skies

and wintry showers we have got more

cloud this weekend and the cloud is

thick and will give us rain and

drizzle from time to time. A dull

picture with cloudy skies for many

through the morning. Rain and

drizzle across East Anglia and South

East, fading away and damp towards

the south-west. Rain coming in

towards the north of Scotland. We

will hang on to cloudy skies and

some drizzly showers across Wales.

Also the south-west and into the

Midlands perhaps. Temperatures

struggling up the eastern side of

England, especially Southeast and

East Anglia, five or six Celsius,

quite cold. Sunshine perhaps

north-eastern part of England and

East Pennines and the Scotland a

glimmer of brightness, and Northern

Ireland, too, and some rain and

stronger winds for the northernmost

part of Scotland. Wetter weather

over the Highlands. What happens

this evening and overnight is

patchy, mostly light rain sinking

further south, moves away from

Scotland at the Northern Ireland

coming to Wales... Through northern

England was the Midlands and East

Anglia. Weather front. Keep the

temperature up as the cloud breaks,

behind that in Scotland it could

turn chilly. Otherwise a mild night

ahead. Really cold are we had

recently, actually all the way into

the near continent. Instead,

although we have high pressure

towards the West, rounded up of it,

we are drawing down some milder air.

Having said that, a chilly start

across eastern Scotland, sunshine

for a while across Scotland, and we

will seek cloud breaking up in

northern England, so a chance of

sunshine and perhaps improving

through the day across East Wales,

Midlands and East Anglia and maybe

the south-east were temperatures

will be higher than today, nine or

10 Celsius. Across the western UK,

cloudy and dull. Damp as well. This

is how we start the new week, cloudy

skies were many again, best chance

of sunshine across the eastern side

of the UK. Mild start at nine or 10

Celsius. Middleweight could get

rather wet and then called are

returned by the end of the week.

Back to you. -- middle of the week

could get wet.

The UK's largest ATM network, Link,

is proposing an overhaul that

could see a significant

reduction in the number

of free-to-access cash machines.

In response to the plans

announced last month,

the Chair of the Commons Treasury

Select Committee, Nicky Morgan,

has written to the company for more

details on the numbers likely

to be affected.

Paul Lewis from Radio 4's Money Box

programme has been looking

at the plans and joins us now.

at the plans and joins us now.

We have got accustomed to the idea

of a cash machine we don't have to

pay for, but they are present.

That is right, and a great many are

operated by private companies,

24,000 privately operated machines.

They are free to use or free to us.

They make their money because every

time we use one, the banks that run

the Link network you mentioned

earlier, the banks that run that

network pay them a fee. And the

banks want to cut at the because at

the moment it is 25p every time we

use a machine. In future they want

it to be 20p. It may not sound much

but that is good to by a fifth. We

are using the cash machines less

often because we are doing more

contactless payments. The private

operators have got fewer people

using machines and now they are

facing a reduced fee and it is them

who say that could mean a lot of

machines will simply be taken away.

So carry on that thought process,

what will be? -- what will be affect

the edit happens?

Nicky Morgan, chair of the Treasury

Select Committee, says there will be

fewer machines. She is trying to buy

now from Link what its assessment is

because it has not produced an

estimate. She is concerned they will

be taken away from places where

people do not have access to banks,

and we have heard this week another

300 branches are closing between

Lloyds and RBS. That is in the next

few months. So we will have fewer

banks and they operate some machines

on their own premises, and possibly

fewer cash machines as well. She is

concerned there will be people who

don't have access to cash machines

in their locality, or if they do,

there will be some of these that

charge you to get your own money

out, which is often £1.50 or

thereabouts.

What about the banks? What do they

say?

The banks say they want things to be

more efficient. What that seems they

mean is they want to be paying the

private operators less and I think

they really... The implication is

they want to slow the expansion of

free to use cash machines by saying,

well, you will not get paid as much

money. So it would be that

worthwhile. The banks say it is

efficiency but there is a formula

which works out this 25p fee and

they are planning to scrap that.

They will actually reduce the fee at

a time when under the formula it

probably should be increasing. They

are just setting efficiency and cash

machine operators say, well, no, it

is not efficiency cabana but they

are trying to squeeze us out and we

will be taking thousands of machines

away. It is a battle between the

two. Where will and, that depends on

the discussions that are going on.

The intervention of Nicky Morgan

this week is an interesting part of

that, I think.

Thank you very much, presenter of

Money Box.

When Billy White was living

on the streets in Wigan,

little did he know his life would be

turned around thanks to a chance

meeting with a man who offered him

a cigarette on Remembrance Sunday.

That man was Roy Aspinall.

We'll speak to them in a moment,

but first here's Katie Wray

with more details on why

their meeting was so special.

Roy Aspinall, former

infantryman with

the Queen's Lancashire

Regiment,

and Billy White, until

recently, sleeping rough

on the streets of Wigan.

They were strangers

until on Remembrance Day they found

themselves in the same churchyard.

Billy was sitting outside on a wall

when Roy approached him.

I grew up without knowing

all his siblings.

Billy knew he had a big brother

but no idea where to find him.

After the men met, they compared

birth certificates,

and that's when they realised

they were siblings.

Billy is no longer homeless.

Just in time for Christmas,

he's moved in with his big brother.

Katie Wray, BBC News.

Brothers, Roy Aspinall

and Billy White, welcome.

Good morning.

Morning.

This is a great story.

A fantastic story.

We saw how you both met through a

chance meeting, but the detail of it

really is, how did you know? How did

you recognise parts of each other? I

will be honest, I do not see it.

What was it?

It was the old photographs I had,

old photographs of my mother and he

does have a lot of features of my

mother.

OK.

That was what caught my eye on the

churchyard. We took it from there.

Were you drawn to Billy?

Yes, and no. Do are not aiming?

It is not an everyday thing.

No, but...

When he came over to me, I thought,

who is this? You don't usually get

random people coming over,

especially when they ask you

questions like, who is your mum and

who is your sister? I thought...

Did it happen that quickly? Take us

through the encounter. You walk up

to Billy...

Yes, and it was just initial chat

from there.

You are saying, how are you doing?

I started it with a cigarette, to be

honest. I offered a homeless man a

cigarette, and the facial features

caught my eye, and I could not

resist.

You said, what did you say?

I asked his name and he said, Billy

White.

But I have a memory of

William White

is a little child.

The odds are putting it together was

slim.

The next you said was?

I rang our sister who I met at the

beginning of this year, Liz. And I

rang her and she confirmed it and

she had not seen him for 15 years or

more. I let them talk on my mobile

phone, and once it was confirmed,

that was it.

The background to this is a

fractured family from when you were

young. Can you put this into context

for as?

We were split up when we were young.

I never saw Roy until Rundgren

Sunday, the first time in 28 years

of my life. A big shock for me. --

Remembrance Sunday. At is when we

were younger. I'll lived with my

mother until the age of ten and then

from ten to 17 I was put into the

care system and we were moving

radically different children's

homes. One got out of care, I was

back staying with my mother, and my

mum moved to Ireland and I went

there to stay with her for a while

but then came back over here. From

there, everything... I met my

partner, which... That's where

everything went downhill from,

really. I lost my partner and ended

up being on the streets. Things were

getting worse and worse for me while

I was on the streets. I was getting

to a point in my life where I just

wanted... That was it.

You had given up.

Yes, literally.

He also lost a child in 2013, which

was sad.

You have a difficult time, and you

were at a low point...

Of my life.

Then this happens. In other

circumstances, if you are doing fine

this the surgery, but feels more

important because of your

circumstances.

My life went from nothing to... It

is still coming around and things

are still happening. Every day, you

know what I mean? I am getting

myself into employment due to my

brother taking me in off the

streets.

Double things like having an

address, isn't it?

I am managing to get stability and

finances for my son as well, because

I have to fight for my son at the

minute, which is a difficult thing

to do, as well as keeping stress

from being when I was homeless and

everything like that, and problems

and everything...

A place of support from Ben has

helped me to pass it on.

We one of those people who has...

You went up to what you thought was

a stranger and it turned out to be

different.

Yes.

Is that in your nature?

Not at all. It is just a role that I

have picked up within the Ed's Place

organisation that I volunteer my

time for. It was a poke in the dark.

I went that way and I was not

supposed to walk that way in the

church. I just decided to go that

way to catch the bus. And I find

this guy.

Some things are meant to be and it

is lovely to see the two of you

together.

Ears like my guardian angel.

Someone is definitely looking over

us.

Family Christmas?

Definitely.

We hope there are more of us out

there that we don't know of yet that

do want to come and...

Yes.

Coming to our family unit as well,

you know? Life is about family and

you should not be separated or live

away from your family.

No, that is very true.

I like the fact that I have this all

the brother that I knew I had but I

had never seen him. I did not know

he was alive and had kids or

anything?

Enjoy your Christmas and I am

pleased for you.

Coming up in the next half hour...

We'll be reviewing this morning's

papers with the writer

and broadcaster, Simon Fanshaw.

Stay with us - headlines coming up.

Hello, this is Breakfast with

Naga Munchetty and Charlie Stayt.

The investigation into Russian

meddling in the US election closes

in on President Trump's inner

circle.

His former National Security Advisor

Michael Flynn admits lying

to the FBI as US media reports that

he's prepared to implicate

the president's son-in-law,

Jared Kushner.

Good morning, it's Saturday

the 2nd of December.

Also this morning:

A big day for England fans

in Brisbane as they get ready for

the Rugby League World Cup final.

Yes, England will face the hosts

Australia whom they haven't beaten

since 1995, which was also the same

year they were last in the final.

They lost to Australia. Here are the

players coming out in Brisbane.

Here are the players

coming out in Brisbane.

Cyber security experts warn

government departments

against using Russian anti-virus

software, saying it

could be exploited.

Do you want to see my beard? I have

a real beard.

I have a real beard.

The Christmas Grotto

with a difference -

how one mum has created a "silent

Santa" night to help

children with autism

enjoy the festive season.

England's untold history -

the public is asked to nominate

places that deserve to be part

of a new national memorial scheme.

Our weather could not be more

different this weekend. We have got

milder Atlantique air with a lot of

cloud and rain, not a great deal of

sunshine, but the temperatures are

rising.

US media reports say

Donald Trump's former

national security adviser,

Michael Flynn, who has

admitted lying to the FBI

about his contacts with Russia,

is prepared to give testimony that

implicates the President's

son-in-law, Jared Kushner.

Mr Flynn has agreed to co-operate

with an investigation

into Russian meddling in the US

Presidential election.

It's thought he'll tell

investigators he was taking

directions from senior members

of Donald Trump's campaign team.

The White House says Mr Flynn has

implicated no-one but himself

in the investigation.

Our Washington Correspondent

Laura Bicker has more.

Michael Flynn, a retired three star

general, left the court

in Washington to a familiar chant.

"Lock him up."

He'd once encouraged Donald Trump

supporters to use a similar version

against rival Hillary Clinton.

The 58-year-old played a key part

in Mr Trump's campaign

and often travelled with him.

If I did a tenth,

a tenth of what she did,

I would be in jail today.

He was rewarded with the post

of national security adviser,

Kaspersky is used by consumers

and businesses as well as some parts

of government to protect systems

from criminals and hackers.

But now a new warning about Russian

anti-virus software,

amid fears it could be

used for spying.

Secrets of global significance...

At Britain's National

Cyber Security Centre,

they say they've not seen actual

proof of such espionage,

but they've told government

departments not to use Kaspersky

for systems containing

sensitive data.

This is specifically about entities

that may be of interest

to the Russian government

and so for us that's

about national security

systems in government,

of which there are

a very small number.

Kaspersky Lab has already denied

allegations that it's been used

for espionage in America.

We don't do anything wrong.

They are just speculating

about some rumours, opinions

and there is zero of the hard data.

400 million people use Kaspersky

products around the world,

but officials say they're not

telling the general

public to stop using it.

Kaspersky Lab denies any wrongdoing,

but today's warning is another sign

about growing fears over the risk

posed by Russia.

The conduct of two

former police officers

who leaked allegations that

pornographic images had been found

on the computer of the now

First Secretary of State,

Damian Green, have been

criticised by the former

Attorney General, Dominic Grieve.

Mr Green has repeated his insistence

that he didn't view the material.

Our political correspondent

Tom Barton joins us now.

There are reports on the front pages

that the Cabinet is split over this

issue. There were threats of

resignation from David Davies who

said Damian Green had not been

treated fairly. There is an issue

with the way the information is

coming out.

Yes, that is right.

After those further claims

yesterday, by a second former Met

Police officer surrounding these

allegations, that pornography was

found on his computer in his

Parliamentary office and was seized

in a police raid in 2008, we have

seen his colleagues in the

Conservative Party rallying around

him. The Brexit secretary David

Davis said he should not go. Last

night on Newsnight the former

Attorney General questioned the

conduct of the officers making these

allegations.

conduct of the officers

making these allegations.

They choose to put material that

an ordinary citizen would be

prohibited from acquiring under data

protection rules into the public

domain on their own judgment.

There is a way of dealing with that.

If you think something is relevant,

do it by proper, official means.

You do not go freelancing as these

officers have done and it has

the smack of a police

state about it.

Damian Green is the Prime Minister's

closest police will ally, the second

most important person sat around the

Cabinet table, and he has

consistently denied these

allegations. But this row matters

because it puts his word, his

denial, it pits that against the

Word of two former serving Met

Police officers. Senior government

officials are investigating this.

The Cabinet Office ethics chief Sue

Gray is carrying out a review. Both

into these allegations and separate

allegations, also denied by Damian

Green, of inappropriate conduct

towards a Conservative Party

activists. We are told the Prime

Minister could receive her report in

the next few days.

Thank you very

much, we will be covering it very

closely in the next few days.

closely in the next few days.

Pope Francis is spending his final

day in Bangladesh after using his

highly-anticipated Asia trip

to express support for

the Rohingya Muslims.

Yesterday, the Pope met a group

of refugees and referred to them

using the word "Rohingya"

for the first time.

He had been criticised

for not using the term

on his earlier visit to Myanmar.

It does not regard them as an ethnic

group.

White House officials have indicated

that President Trump is likely

to announce next week

that the United States

will recognise Jerusalem

as the capital of Israel.

The status of Jerusalem

is highly contentious,

with both Israelis and Palestinians

claiming all or part

of the city as their capital.

Critics have warned

that the decision by Donald Trump

could jeopardise peace negotiations.

It's feared there could be hundreds

of job losses at Toys R Us

after the retailer announced it

would close around

a quarter of its UK stores.

The move, which would see

the closure of 25 shops,

is part of a deal by the owners

to renegotiate debts

with its landlords.

It's thought Christmas trading

and gift vouchers will not be

affected by the move.

Five people have been ended, two

critically, after a car hit a number

of pedestrians in London. The

collision happened between Brixton

and Stockwell and police say they

are not treating it as terrorism.

Refugee families who are being

resettled in the UK from Syria,

should not be forced to split up

and be allowed to bring children,

up to the age of 25, with them.

The British Red Cross is calling

for current rules to be relaxed

so that older family members are not

left behind in war zones.

This week, the Home Office announced

that over the past two years around

9,000 Syrians had been allowed

into the UK under its Vulnerable

Person Resettlement Scheme.

Let's be clear.

We are talking about children

who are part of the family unit.

People watching this now,

think of your family,

the children who still live at home,

who may be away studying.

That's what we're talking about.

Let's bring those

families back together.

Families belong together.

A new scheme which aims to recognise

more places and people with historic

importance is set to be launched

by Historic England.

The heritage body wants people

to suggest sites that deserve to be

permanently acknowledged but aren't

already marked with a plaque.

The campaign will be

piloted over three years.

A huge waterspout has

formed off Italy.

It is a remarkable image.

It is a remarkable image.

It was spotted off the coast

of Sanremo before moving

inland as a tornado.

The weather phenomenon caused

significant damage to the city

but luckily no-one was hurt.

It is quite a spectacular sight.

Amazing pictures. It is 11 minutes

past nine.

It is 11 minutes past nine.

The film "Wonder" starring

Julia Roberts and Owen Wilson

tells the story of a young boy

navigating his first year at school.

He's a child who experiences

a tougher time than many

because he has a congenital

condition, which affected

how his face formed.

Now a charity is calling on schools

to do more to support children

going through similar experiences

because of facial disfigurements.

Research by the organisation

Changing Faces suggests

almost half are bullied.

We'll discuss this in a moment,

but first let's hear

from 13-year-old Marcus.

Hi, I am Marcus, I am 13,

I have a facial disfigurement.

They kept on calling me butt face,

Scarface, Joker and one of them said

if they looked like me,

they would kill themselves.

It made me feel really upset

but I didn't tell anyone at first,

but then my mum kind of knew that

I was a bit down so then

she asked me what was wrong

and then I told her.

I made a DVD and it, like,

said all the information

about what I was going through,

what happened, all the operations.

I hoped people would understand

a bit more after they watched it

because everyone gets stares,

but it is more, when you have

a facial disfigurement.

It is not you that is

the problem, it is them.

And if you are going

through this sort of time,

then you need to tell someone.

Becky Hewitt is the chief executive

of the charity Changing Faces

and Lucy Ritchie was born

with Treacher Collins syndrome.

Good morning to you. You see, first

of all, let's talk about how your

experiences compare with markers who

we heard a moment ago. How has it

been for you in school and in those

situations?

I have had quite a

positive experience compared to some

of the other people who have

disfigurement. But I think with this

film that is coming out and the work

that Changing Faces does it will

open up the discussion.

We were

lucky enough to talk to the author

of the book which the film was based

on and Treacher Collins is not

assigned to the main character as

what he has. The author said to us

that she wanted to talk about the

issue of bullying and facial

disfigurement and not talk about

Treacher Collins. But you have it,

tell us what it is.

It is a facial

disfigurement so I do not have any

cheekbones, I have no years and I

have a very small airway. This

developed during birth. It is how I

was born.

And the work that is being

done now to get a more positive

conversation, or more upfront

conversation about disfigurement

more generally, is that what you

were trying to achieve?

Yes, we want

to start conversations about visible

difference and looking different. It

is not something people feel

comfortable discussing. We want to

move to a place in schools where

they value difference so they will

say to kids, we are all different,

you are different from your friends,

difference is nothing to be

frightened off, it is what makes us

all unique and brilliant. If we can

get people speaking about that, they

are much more likely to be welcoming

to kids who look a bit more

different.

People often say that

youngsters in amongst themselves are

often very accepting. There is also

the side issue of bullying and that

can happen, but at the same time

young people can be very accepting

of difference if they are not guided

in a different direction by adults

who bring with them lots of other

issues. What do you think?

I think a

lot of kids are really accepting. It

is down to sort of educating people

about disfigurement. The more they

are educated, the more they will be

aware. Most kids I come across have

been quite positive. If they are

negative I think it is more just

scared and curious from what I have

found.

One of the things the film

highlights, and the book is written

from a different perspective about

the young boy, what have you learnt

about people being tolerant as might

your friends will have known about

the operations and the painful

procedures that you have gone

through.

Definitely my friends and

family get more upset about staring

and other people's reactions

compared to what I do. I definitely

noticed different types of stairs.

You get curious or sympathetic

stairs, but as a whole...

How do you

react to those? Say you are in the

supermarket...

I am completely

immune to it.

If people are staring

at me with curiosity rather than

horror or resentment, curiosity or a

pity as you mention, would you say I

walked up to them?

I have never done

that, usually I smile and say hello.

It probably should be something I do

more often, but I am pretty immune

to it, I do not tend to notice it is

much any more. As I say, I think my

friends and family if they could

with a something but I try and hold

them back.

Has progress being made?

Are we in a better place than we

were 30 years ago?

Some progress has

been made and we have seen a slight

improvement in the kind of implicit

bias, people who automatically

associate less positive things

towards people who look different.

But we also think there is an

enormous amount to be done, so our

research shows 50% of young people

are experiencing bullying in schools

and almost all of those those

schools are not well equipped to

deal with it. But we know there is a

massive opportunity to reach young

people and if you talk to young

people when they are young, they

move forward. We did great work in a

school during anti-bullying week and

afterwards 60 children wrote as

letters to talk about the positive

impact on them and how it had taught

them to see things differently.

Although there is a lot to overcome,

we also know if we get in there and

have conversations there is an

opportunity to make things better.

That is good for all kids because

they could be a society where looks

are not important.

What would you

say to children watching with or

without facial disfigurement who are

being bullied or challenge because

they look different?

If you have the

attitude that you are no different,

other people will adapt to that.

Just because you look different does

not mean you are any different in

the inside, so just go with that

attitude and hopefully more people

will accept that.

And as you said,

embrace the fact that we are unique.

Thank you so much.

90 minutes past nine, let's have a

look at the weather.

Our weather is changing and it will

turn milder this weekend but we have

got a lot more cloud and it is thick

enough to give us a bit of rain and

drizzle. It is a dull picture,

cloudy skies for many of us, a bit

of rain and drizzle in East Anglia

and the South fading away. Still

damp in the south-west. Rain coming

in towards the north of Scotland. We

will hang on cloudy skies. Those

temperatures struggling on the

eastern side of England, especially

in the South East and East Anglia.

Still quite cold. Some sunshine in

North eastern parts of England,

South East of Scotland a glimmer of

brightness, but we will see some

rain and slightly stronger winds.

The wet weather over the Highlands.

This evening and overnight that

patchy rain sinks further south and

moves away from Scotland and moves

into Northern Ireland, Wales,

through northern England and East

Anglia. It keeps the temperatures

up, but behind that in Scotland it

could turn rather chilly. Otherwise

a mild night ahead. The cold air is

in the near continent and although

we have got high-pressure towards

the West, around the top of it we

are drawing down milder air. There

will be a chilly start in eastern

Scotland and some sunshine and the

cloud will break up more in northern

England, perhaps improving through

the day in east Wales, the Midlands

and East Anglia and maybe eventually

in the South East. On the western

side of the UK it is cloudy, dark

and damp. This is how we start the

new week. Cloudy skies for many.

Best chance of sunshine in the east

side of the UK. The middle part of

the week it could get wet and cold

air returned by the end of the week.

air returned by the end of the week.

air returned by the end of the week.

And you're watching

Breakfast from BBC News.

The writer and broadcaster,

Simon Fanshawe, is here to tell us

what's caught his eye.

He is blending in very nicely with

the server.

It is my Christmas

jacket.

First let's look at the front pages.

It's Meghan mania in the papers

today with Prince Harry's fiance

gracing most of the front pages.

The Sun's front page is dedicated

entirely to Ms Markle,

calling her a mega star.

The Guardian leads with the guilty

plea of Donald Trump's ex-national

security adviser Michael Flynn.

The Daily Telegraph also leads

on the case of Michael Flynn.

He admitted yesterday lying. The

question is what information he

might provide.

The question is what

information he might provide.

And the Daily Mail leads

with the story about Damian Green.

The Tories are at war with Scotland

Yard. Simon, where are you starting?

There is a story in the Guardian in

Manchester about the Scouts. The

first ever Buddhist Scout group. Do

you remember Scouts or whatever they

were?

1908 it started.

I took part

in a documentary and I remember

thinking we can send out scouting.

When I got to the end I thought,

there is nothing to send up, it is

terrific. We discovered that there

is a British Muslim Scouting

Association and there is an odd

association with Baden Powell, white

Christian. But the Scouts are trying

to spread their wings. Without being

a big advocate for them, it is fun.

This guy is a research scientist at

Manchester University and he started

this Scout group and it is centred

around Buddhists but it is open to

all.

It would send out the wrong

message if it was only for

Buddhists. The whole point is you

come to the group.

And they meet at

the Buddhist temple so if there is

any religious worship it would be

Buddhists, but they go out and they

do their water not all over.

In 2014 atheist Scouts, bearing in

mind Baden Powell once described

atheists as the worst sort, the

founder of the Scouts movement, but

in 2014 atheist Scouts were given

the right to do their squaring in,

the promise without saying duty to

God they our Scout values.

I am a

big fan of the Scouts.

Your next

story?

It is the times and it is the

constant fascination with what is it

that forms sexual orientation? The

thing that researchers in this area

are absolutely love is a pair of

identical twins because they are

identical, so they are genetically

absolutely similar, but these two

women, Rosie and Sarah are sisters

and they are identical twins and

Rosie on the left is lesbian and

Sarah on the right is not. So the

question is what happened? These

researchers are saying their genetic

structure is the same and they are

looking at is their early evidence

of deviation from gender

stereotypical behaviour? And when

does that start to show itself? They

have asked twins to bring pictures

of them throughout their childhood.

What they are discovering is it

demonstrates non-gender

stereotypical behaviour which

started very early on. If you look

at the other insect picture of the

two of them you will see that on the

left that is Sarah dressed as Wilma

Flintstone and on the right is her

sister dressed as Fred Flintstone.

They are also saying it may be

genetics, but the theory at the

University of Essex says it made

well be to do with different

nutrition and levels of hormones

pre-birth in the womb. Even though

they are identical twins they have

different experiences in the lumen.

The suggestion is Rosie who dressed

as Fred Flintstone is gay and the

other one is not.

There is an

interplay between sexual orientation

and gender specific behaviour. You

are starting to demonstrate

difference even when you are

unconscious about it. The idea that

gay men are camp is about not being

stereotypically masculine.

Without

wanting to be flippant, in a way

everyone is wearing a dress. They

are all wearing tunics because they

did not have trousers in Fred

Flintstone's day. And so did the

Romans.

They were not trousers, but

on the other hand Wilma was very

definitely wearing a 50s dress.

It

was all the rage in prehistoric

days! Shall we finish off?

This is a

campaign the Daily Mail is running.

It is shocking. When people throw

away plastic it breaks down but only

to a certain degree. If you throw it

away in the beach it gets into the

water and fish and things like that

feast on it like it is plankton. But

they cannot digester. If you then

eat the fish you are eating

undigested plastic. If you look at

that picture, you can see there is a

beach with discarded litter on a

beach in Cornwall and people are

saying stop throwing away plastic in

places where it will not biodegrade.

Put it in a bin and take it away.

Put stuff in the bin, it is not

hard!

I got run over the other day

at a traffic light because somebody

who something out of their car and I

picked it up and threw it back in

again. I was on my bike. As I went

off the guy tried to run me over. I

thought, I am pointing out you

dropped something.

In the same

breath I would say be careful. It is

one thing to be right, it is another

thing to be...

Dead.

Nice to see.

Happy Christmas.

This is Breakfast.

We're on BBC Two until ten this

morning, when Angela Hartnett takes

over in the Saturday kitchen.

We were just talking about plastic

and seafood and you have to be

mindful as chefs and you have got to

show that you are sourcing well.

We

have got a fantastic story later in

the show so make sure you tune in

and watch it. Our special guest

today is the wonderful Gregory

Porter. You are here to face food

heaven and hell will stop what is

heaven?

A great rib eye steak. And

hell? Pickled fish.

What are you

cooking today?

We are going to cook

some fish in a paper bag. With loads

of seasonable vegetables like

celeriac, walnuts and Apple,

seasonal ingredients.

Lovely to have

you as always, Ken.

I am doing a

spring roll filled with chicken and

sun-dried tomatoes.

That sounds

delicious. How are you?

We have got

wine on the show today and other

drinks as well.

And no plastic

straws! And you guys are at home in

charge of whether Gregory eats food

heaven or food hell at the end of

the show. Check our website for

details. See you at ten.

Sometimes I

play the game about which think I

would like to eat most. A spring

roll?

Yes.

Yes.

Coming up in the next half hour:

Is there somewhere or someone

you think should be recognised

for their historical importance?

We'll be hearing about plans for

a new memorial scheme in England.

Hello, this is Breakfast with

Naga Munchetty and Charlie Stayt.

Coming up before 10.00:

Mike will have the sport and Darren

will have the weather.

US media are reporting that

President Trump's son-in-law,

Jared Kushner, has been implicated

in the investigation into claims

that Russia interfered

in the election process.

The former national security

adviser, Michael Flynn,

has accused a "very senior member"

of the president's transition team

of directing him to make contact

with foreign governments.

It's thought Mr Flynn,

who pleaded guilty to making false

statements to the FBI,

will say he was directed to hold

discussions with Kremlin officials

by senior members of Trump's

campaign team, including Mr Kushner.

The White House says Mr Flynn has

implicated no-one but himself.

The UK National Cyber Security

Centre has warned government

departments not to use

Russian anti-virus software

if their computers contain sensitive

information.

The Russian company, Kaspersky Lab,

was banned from US government

networks earlier this year,

because of concerns it had ties

to intelligence agencies in Moscow.

The company denies having

links to the Kremlin.

Despite its warning,

the National Cyber Security Centre

says the general public shouldn't be

concerned about using the software.

Our guidance is to choose

an anti-virus product that

meets your needs and does well

in industry standard tests.

We're not saying, and we

specifically say this

in our guidance on the blog,

that we are not telling people

to rip out Kaspersky

willy-nilly because that

makes no sense.

This is about entities that may be

of interest to the Russian

government, so for us that's

about national security

systems in government,

of which there are very small

number, and for example

if you have a business negotiation

that the Russian government

may be interested in.

Two former police officers

who leaked allegations that

pornographic images had been found

on the Tory minister,

Damian Green's computer,

were in "flagrant breach"

of their own code of conduct,

according to the former

Attorney General, Dominic Grieve.

Mr Green, now the First Secretary

of State, has repeated his

insistence that he didn't view

pornographic material

on the computer.

The former Attorney General said

he found the behaviour

of the ex-officers troubling.

They choose to put material that

an ordinary citizen would be

prohibited from acquiring under data

protection rules into the public

domain on their own judgment...

Now, there is a way

of dealing with that.

If you think something is relevant,

you do it by proper, official means.

You do not go freelancing,

as these two officers have done,

and it has the smack of

the police state about it.

Five people have been injured,

two critically, after a car hit

a number of pedestrians in London.

The collision happened

between Brixton and Stockwell.

Police say they are not

treating it as terrorism.

White House officials have indicated

that President Trump is likely

to announce next week

that the United States

will recognise Jerusalem

as the capital of Israel.

The status of Jerusalem

is highly contentious,

with both Israelis and Palestinians

claiming all or part

of the city as their capital.

Critics have warned

that the decision by Donald Trump

could jeopardise peace negotiations.

It's feared there could be hundreds

of job losses at Toys R Us,

after the retailer announced it

would close around

a quarter of its UK stores.

The move, which would see

the closure of 25 shops,

is part of a deal by the owners

to renegotiate debts

with its landlords.

It's thought Christmas trading

and gift vouchers will not be

affected by the move.

Pope Francis is spending his

final day in Bangladesh,

after using his highly-anticipated

Asia trip to express support

for the Rohingya Muslims.

Yesterday, the Pope met a group

of refugees and referred to them

using the word "Rohingya"

for the first time.

He was criticised for not

using the term on his earlier visit

to Myanmar, which does not regard

them as an ethnic group.

A new scheme, which aims

to recognise more places and people

with historic importance,

is set to be launched

by Historic England.

The heritage body wants people

to suggest sites that deserve to be

permanently acknowledged,

but aren't already

marked with a plaque.

The campaign will be

piloted over three years.

A huge waterspout has

formed off Italy.

It was spotted off the coast

of Sanremo, before moving

inland as a tornado.

This is it. It is created by wind

sucking up water through a tunnel of

a. It rises and it looks like a

water tornado above the sea. This

did move inland.

The weather phenomenon caused

significant damage to the city.

You can see close up images of boats

on the coastline which were moored

up, but luckily we can report nobody

was hurt.

Those are the main

stories this morning.

Now let's look at the sport. England

are playing Australia to become...

Rolled cup rugby league.

Are we telling the

score?

It may have been wishful thinking to

think England were complacent,

because they are so used to seeing

Australia win, but the Australian

team have turned up and they are

competitive. They are winning.

England held out for 15 minutes

before finally buckling under the

pressure and it has taken some tough

defending from England. Australia

did not like this tackle. The

rivalry boiled over for some seconds

of fisticuffs. Eventually the

winners powered through to score at

the corner there, and converted to

put the champions 6-0 up. Chances at

both ends since then but Australia

very much on top.

It's the final session on day one

of the second Ashes Test,

but play well under way

again in Adelaide.

Under the lights come around this is

a day night match with England

looking to build on their own

success.

Australia tried to take advantage

of a miss-field from

England, but it backfired.

Cameron Bankcroft run

out by Chris Woakes.

David Warner has gone, three runs

short of his half century.

Australia have since settled into

the groove, with Steve Smith the

captain... A dropped catch was

survived to negative 50. In the

second over at the final session, he

is gone. A wicket in the last while,

James Anderson, giving Australia

141-3. If England gets more they

will feel they are right in this.

Pub landlords have been toasting

England's World Cup draw,

because all of their games in Russia

will be played at 7pm in the evening

or Sunday afternoon,

so people don't have

to take time off work.

They can all get together

to watch, perhaps in a pub.

Diego Maradona was the man

who pulled England's name out

of the pot in the Kremlin.

Gareth Southgate's side

are in a group with Belgium,

Tunisia and Panama, but he says

a good draw on paper

doesn't mean anything, given

England's recent World Cup record.

We've been good at writing teams off

and then getting beaten,

so we have to make sure that we're

prepared for all of those games.

It's fantastically exciting

to be here for the draw

with every other coach.

It's been a great experience

and really looking forward

to getting on with it.

The big game in the Premier League

today is the evening kick-off

between Arsenal and Manchester

United.

Celtic play Motherwell in Scotland,

and the FA Cup continues.

Last night, non-league

AFC Fylde, earned a replay

with Wigan Athletic of League One,

Danny Rowe's penalty