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Hello.

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This is Breakfast,

with Louise Minchin and Charlie

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Stayt.

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It is "Russia's crime."

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The US joins Britain in blaming

Moscow for last week's

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nerve agent attack.

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At the United Nations,

its ambassador demands action

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after Britain expels

23 Russian officials.

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But the Kremlin again denies any

involvement in the attempted murder

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of former spy Sergei

Skipral and his daughter.

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The lab where scientists helped

identify the nerve agent used

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What's in our bottled water?

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The World Health Organization

investigates after hundreds,

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even thousands, of tiny particles

of plastic are discovered

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in a number of leading brands.

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Openreach, the firm in charge

of our broadband network is hiring

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thousands of new trainees

to boost coverage and speed.

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But is it enough to get

more of us on line?

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I'll speak to the boss in charge

of the project just before seven.

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In sport, it's a Messi

masterclass for Chelsea.

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They are knocked out

of the Champions League after losing

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3-0 on the night at Barcelona.

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And are we seeing the

first signs of spring?

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Matt is has the weather

for us this morning.

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We will have that shortly.

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Good morning.

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First, our main story.

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The White House has backed Britain's

decision to expel 23 Russian

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diplomats in response to the nerve

agent attack on a former spy

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and his daughter in

Salisbury 11 days ago.

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The explusions are just one

of the measures Thereasa May

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is putting in place after Russia

missed the deadline to explain

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what had happened.

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Our reporter, Keith Doyle, has more.

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Late-night comings and goings at the

Russian embassy in London 23

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diplomats considered to be

undeclared spies will be making

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preparations to leave written after

the decision yesterday to expel

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them. -- written. While Russia

remains defiant it was not involved

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in the nerve agent attack, other

world powers are backing Britain.

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One member stands accused of using

chemical weapons on the sovereign

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soil of another member. The

credibility of this council will not

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survive if we fail to hold Russia

accountable.

Russia was to blame,

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the Prime Minister told MPs, and

that is why action must be taken.

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There is no alternative conclusion

other than that the Russian state

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was culpable for the murder of

Sergei Skripal and his daughter.

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This represents an unlawful use of

force by the Russian state against

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the United Kingdom.

The Labour

leader, Jeremy Corbyn, said the

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response should be based on clear

evidence. Russia insists it was not

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involved and it will retaliate.

Prime Minister Theresa May is

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destroying international law and

international relationships.

Last

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night, the chemical weapons watchdog

was asked to verify Russia was

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behind the attack in Salisbury.

There is now a fully evolved

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diplomatic row which is likely to

escalate. As this goes on, Sergei

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Skripal and his daughter

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Skripal and his daughter remain

critically ill in hospital.

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And Keith joins us now

from the Russian Embassy in London.

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How has Russia reacted

to these sanctions?

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In the early hours of this morning,

the UN were meeting. Various lines

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from them. What is Russia saying?

Russia is still denying any

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involvement. Be called the UK liars,

and said they will retaliate. --

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They. We are waiting for the Russian

response in the next few days. The

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significant move overnight was the

statement coming from the White

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House. That significant statement

showed a lot of support for the UK.

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That statement said the United

States stands in solidarity with its

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closest ally, the United Kingdom.

That shows not only strength, but it

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comes from the White House and

Donald Trump and is aimed at Russia.

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Of course, that support is for the

measures Theresa May announce

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yesterday, including the expulsions,

banning some high-level meetings

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between the two countries, and of

course, the fact that no ministers,

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members of the royal family, will go

to the World Cup this summer. There

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is new travel advice for fans going

to the World Cup coming from the

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Foreign Office. It says they should

be aware of the possibility of anti-

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British sentiment and harassment and

avoid any protesting or

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demonstrations. That is the advice

from the Foreign Office that it is

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ongoing, this situation.

-- Foreign

Office.

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We'll be speaking to

the Foreign Secretary,

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Boris Johnson, about this just

at 7:40 this morning.

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The labratory where scientists

helped identify the nerve agent used

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in Salisbury is to get more funding

from the government as part

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of a defence

modernisation programme.

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An extra £48 million for a new

Chemical Weapons Defence Centre

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at Porton Down, will be announced

by Gavin Williamson in his first

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major speech as Defence

Secretary later today.

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A review into the potential impact

of plastic in water is to be

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launched by the World Health

Organization after particles of

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micro- plastics were found in 11

major brands of bottled water, only

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two of which are available in the

UK. David Shukman has the details.

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Bottles of water are feature of

everyday life around world. But the

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new tests commissioned by

journalists have found something

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unexpected, tiny particles of

plastic in the water. At this lab in

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New York state, test thing was

carried out on more than 250

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bottles. -- testing. A special kind

of dye that sticks to plastic was

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added.

Under special like it

sparkles like stars.

On average, per

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litre, there were ten large

particles, each larger than the

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width of a typical human hair and

confirmed as being plastic. Smaller

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particles were also

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confirmed as being plastic. Smaller

particles were also found. On

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average, 314 per litre. They were

not confirmed, but were

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average, 314 per litre. They were

not confirmed, but were probably

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plastic. At the moment, there are no

rules covering these micro- plastics

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or any agreed way of checking for

them.

It is an indication that we

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should be concerned. It is not

catastrophic, the numbers we are

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seeing, but it is concerning,

especially if you look at... If you

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are drinking only bottled water and

you do this every day over eight,

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you know, a year, we are talking

thousands of litres of plastic. --A.

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We contacted all of the companies

involved. This is what Nestle told

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us.

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us. And Evian said of the study...

Coca Cola, which makes Dasani, said

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this.

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This is the first time that cold

water has been tested for plastic on

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this scale. -- bottled. 11 different

brands bought in nine different

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countries. And in almost every case,

they found some plastic. What does

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this mean for our health? The Food

Standards Agency says it is unlikely

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micro- plastics could cause harm.

But the World Health Organization

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now wants to review the evidence,

and scientists say more evidence is

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needed.

As we become more aware of

the prevalence of micro- plastics

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and the potential harm they might

cause, I think we need to start

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thinking now about how we

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thinking now about how we reduce

those inputs so that we're not

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stoking up a huge problem for the

future.

The advice, if water is

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dirty, bottled water is much safer.

But this study raises questions

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about where plastic can end up and

whether the Chinese pieces can

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affect our health. -- tiniest. David

Shukman, BBC News, New York State.

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The Brexit Secretary, David Davis,

has said he's prepared to accept

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the EU's offer of a shortened

transition period of under two years

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after the UK leaves

the European Union in March 2019.

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He said he would agree to a call

for the transition to end

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in December 2020 if that helped

to secure a deal at next week's EU

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Summit.

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The use of food and medical

supplies as a weapon of war

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by the Syrian Regime has been

branded as "utterly abhorrent"

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by the Foreign Secretary Boris

Johnson and International

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Development Secretary

Penny Mordaunt.

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In a joint statement to mark

the seven years of conflict

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which has gripped the country,

they branded the war as "one

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of the longest and bloodiest"

in recent history.

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A British man is standing

trial in Cambodia charged

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with making pornography.

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If Daniel Jones is convicted,

he could face up to a year

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in prison.

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Our south-east Asia correspondent,

Jonathan Head, is watching

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the trial from Bangkok.

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Jonathan, remind us of this case?

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It is not clear what it is about. He

was arrested in January in a party

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that he was hosting. These are quite

common in places near the great

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Buddhist temple of Angkor Wat.

Tourists joint pub crawls, parties,

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enjoying themselves drinking. It is

not clear what else was going on.

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The police produced images that

apparently came from a previous

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party used for publicity with people

in suggestive poses, though with

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clothes on. It is bizarre they think

it is pornography. But the

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authorities are saying they want to

crack down on people being too loose

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and enjoying themselves.

Unfortunately, some backpackers got

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targeted. Only Daniel Jones remains

targeted. The other have been

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released on bail.

It is difficult to

get across what is going on exactly,

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but thank you.

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Ministers are being called

on to introduce a faster phase-out

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of petrol and diesel cars,

currently set for 2040.

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The MPs have also demanded

a new Clean Air Act,

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and say the motor industry should

finance a clean air fund.

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The government says it'll

publish its own proposals on air

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pollution later in the year.

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Here's our environment

analyst, Roger Harrabin.

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The air in many of Britain's cities

is officially unfit to breathe.

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And the MPs are angry that,

despite a series of court cases,

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the government has

not cleaned it up.

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The young are particularly at risk,

and the MPs' report has received

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support from UN children's

organisation, UNICEF,

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which says that Britain's children

deserve to breathe clean air.

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The government aims to end the sales

of diesel and petrol

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only vehicles by 2040,

but the MPs say it is inadequate.

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India will do it ten years earlier.

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India will do it ten years earlier.

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India will do it ten years earlier.

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They say government must

work with local councils

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to stop pollution-related deaths.

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This really needs to be stamped out.

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We need to improve it.

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And that's why the whole report

talked about bringing government,

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local authorities, together,

so we can work across,

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not just here in London,

but across the country.

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The government says it's looking

beyond cars to smokers,

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fuel, and wood stoves

in its strategy, due

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later

in the year.

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Roger Harrabin, BBC News.

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Now, we told you yesterday

there was a possibility copper coins

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could be scrapped due to a fall

in demand after the Treasury

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launched a review into the role

of cash and digital payments.

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But don't worry, you can

save your pennies.

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A spokesman for Theresa May told

a Westminster briefing there were no

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plans to phase out one and 2p coins.

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I did not want to be too excited,

but I was upset about this. I

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launched a campaign from the sofa to

keep the pennies. I am not saying

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that is why they are being kept.

Is

that why they are being kept?

I do

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not think I have anything to do with

it.

Are people panicking?

Charities

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were worried. They talked about the

fact you have those pots on counters

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for charity. People were saying you

cannot take those away or they will

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not get donations.

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not get donations.

Sometimes they

say they will, then later, no.

The

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point is that we are right now.

Tell

us

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us of a tale of woe for Chelsea

undone by Messi. Barcelona has

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announced it are incredible. They

are into the Champions League final

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eight. We are running out of

hyperbole for Messi.

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First, it was Manchester United.

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Now, Chelsea have exited

the competition at the hands

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of Spanish opposition.

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Antonio Conte's side were beaten 3-0

in the Nou Camp by Barcelona and one

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of the game's greatest ever players.

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There was a reminder of the dangers

of racing at the Cheltenham Festival

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as Ruby Walsh was taken to hospital

with a suspected broken leg

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after this fall.

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He'd only come back to the sport

last week after four months out.

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England Rugby Union head coach,

Eddie Jones, has apologised

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unreservedly after derogatory

and offensive comments about Wales

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and Ireland made during a private

event last year emerged on line.

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The Rugby Football Union will also

apologise to both the Welsh

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and Irish unions.

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In the wheelchair curling this

morning, Great Britain have lost

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to South Korea.

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If other results go against them

in the next couple of hours,

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it means they could be out.

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They have one more game of their own

later in the round-robin stage,

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that's against China.

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Quite a strange picture of

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wheelchair curling. They're just

sitting still. No action. That's all

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we have due to rights reasons. It's

a Channel 4 event.

Can I just say,

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he walked off with a suspected

return leg, Walsh. -- Broken. They

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are tough. This is the picture in

the papers today since you brought

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it up.

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There he is, squashed under the

horse,

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There he is, squashed under the

horse, there's the leg as he is

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being carried off.

The horses OK?

The horse is fine, yes. It's one of

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the risks, if you're going to ride

horses at breakneck speeds of a

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large fences, unfortunately you're

going to break some bones along the

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way and Ruby Walsh knows that better

than most.

Why it's called breakneck

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speeds!

Shall we look at the front pages

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quickly? We are talking about

Stephen Hawking, as we did yesterday

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all day, lots of pictures of him in

the papers and analysis about his

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impact on all of us. So much

analysis of the Russian spy story

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and Russia threatens retaliation as

Theresa May expels 23 diplomats. She

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was talking about that in Parliament

yesterday.

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I love the quote at the top of the

Daily Telegraph, that quote from

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Stephen Hawking.

You can't hear that too many times!

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We must bolster our defences, these

are the comments from Gavin

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Williamson, the Defence Secretary.

We will be speaking incidentally to

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Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson this

morning in connection with all

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developments overnight, the UN

talking about the Russian attack

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overnight, we will have more on that

through the morning this morning.

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The Russian spy story makes the

front page of the Mirror. Cold War

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two they are calling it, the Sun

talking about it and Jeremy Corbyn

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as well in the Daily Mail.

The front page of the Times, they

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are reflecting on the voices in

connection with the attack in

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Salisbury. These were comments from

President Macron's spokesman

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yesterday and I draw your attention

to one of these quotes, he said once

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the elements are proven, then the

time will come for a decision to be

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made. Some voices are saying, what

exactly is the evidence? We will

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talk to Boris Johnson about that

later.

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Ben, you want to talk about a

massive global company and not great

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news for the UK?

Potentially not great news,

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Unilever, the consumer goods giant,

it makes all sorts of things, you

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will know the brands if not the

company. You open your cover...

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Chances are it is a Unilever

product, Persil, Dove, Marmite, they

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have said this morning they could

move their headquarters to Rotterdam

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in the Netherlands. Traditionally it

has had two bases, one in London and

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one in Holland, it has said they

will move the base to the

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Netherlands. Will a lot of people

jumping on this as a story about

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Brexit and it is a view Unilever

wants to leave the UK. That's not

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the case. They have said this could

be to do with a failed takeover bid,

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they were subject to a big takeover

bid last year from American firm

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Kraft, that didn't happen, so they

want to slimline to make sure they

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are in a good position to take on

the competition in the market but it

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would mean they dropped out of the

FTSE 100, the list of the UK top 100

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companies.

You were talking about coppers

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earlier, one in three adults can't

calculate their change, this is in

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the Mail, so maybe they don't need

these coppers. They've done a study

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looking at whether we know how much

we should get back when we pay in

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cash at the shop, one in ten can't

work out the value of supermarket

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offers and fewer than half can't

work out the most basic financial

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grass and one in three can't

calculate the amount of change they

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are due -- crafts.

Thanks for that,

we will be talking about that with a

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guest later on.

We will be setting a maths test for

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that later as well.

The very

thought!

You are both welcome to

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have a go. We are asking the

question, aren't we?

I did check

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earlier, Charlie, you could do this.

That's the whole point, we shouldn't

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be afraid of numbers and numeracy

and maths.

Very true, very true.

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I definitely have some kind of

mental block when it comes to

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numbers I think.

I can work out my

change. We will do it together.

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Maybe today will be the turnaround.

All I need is a bit of confidence in

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the BBC Breakfast maths test.

Naga

has volunteered to take GCSE.

Some

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people have.

And Tim and Jane.

A

couple of mine before we move on?

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You saw Ruby Walsh, that is the best

picture. I was going to show you

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Messi...

Go on, hold it up!

This is

Messi celebrating and Arsenal's

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women winning the Continental Cup

for a record fifth time beating

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Manchester City last night. Got to

get the sports pages in, guys!

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Thanks very much.

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Darren has the weather.

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No frost on Thursday morning but

more rain around, very wet in

0:19:550:19:59

Northern Ireland and still some rain

here first thing. Here's our rain

0:19:590:20:03

band, should be moving north away

from Wales and the Midlands and the

0:20:030:20:07

south-east, heading into northern

England, giving snow the mountains

0:20:070:20:10

of Scotland. Behind the rain we get

some sunshine, that could trigger

0:20:100:20:14

some sharp showers, potentially

thundery, but lifting temperatures

0:20:140:20:17

into double figures and underneath

the wet weather further north it

0:20:170:20:22

will be colder. The cold weather yet

to arrive, the wet weather in

0:20:220:20:27

Scotland turning to sleet and snow

over higher ground, heavy, thundery

0:20:270:20:30

showers pushing north into northern

England into the back of the wet

0:20:300:20:34

weather, again affecting Northern

Ireland for a time and more

0:20:340:20:36

downpours and sunshine to the south

were temperatures again 12 to 13,

0:20:360:20:41

quite a bit colder underneath the

rain further north. We start

0:20:410:20:44

obviously with some rain but as we

head to the weekend it's going to

0:20:440:20:49

get significantly colder, easterly

winds could bring snow showers

0:20:490:20:51

mainly to England and Wales.

0:20:510:20:55

Thank you very much, Darren.

0:20:550:20:57

Have you ever been asked

to work a free trial shift?

0:20:570:21:00

It's not unusual for an employer

to ask to see you in action

0:21:000:21:04

for a few hours before

they offer you the job.

0:21:040:21:06

But when does that cross the line

and become exploitation?

0:21:060:21:09

Tomorrow, an MP is hoping to push

a bill through parliament

0:21:090:21:12

which would ban them completely.

0:21:120:21:13

Here's our business and consumer

correspondent, Nina Warhurst.

0:21:130:21:18

If you cook a steak, pull a point,

load a dishwasher, it is a trial not

0:21:190:21:26

a trial. At this Edinburgh pub staff

are always paid for their labour but

0:21:260:21:32

when Meegan worked a full shift for

a restaurant, she's edgy was

0:21:320:21:36

effectively at staff, and at times

she was left alone with children in

0:21:360:21:41

a creche. Both occasions more hard

work for more than five hours for no

0:21:410:21:45

money.

I just feel like I was taken

advantage of because I was obviously

0:21:450:21:49

a lot younger and I think they just

saw someone that wasn't going to say

0:21:490:21:54

anything.

Why did you say, hang on,

work day shift here, I should be

0:21:540:21:59

paid.

They said on both occasions if

you didn't go at ahead with the

0:21:590:22:04

underpaid shift then the application

wouldn't go any further.

0:22:040:22:07

Ifill I just had to do it.

Some MPs

say the law must change. Unpaid

0:22:070:22:13

shifts have exploited workers for

too long. Tamara's bill could make

0:22:130:22:18

that practice illegal.

People are

being asked to try out for a job

0:22:180:22:22

that doesn't even exist, companies

are trying to cover staff absences

0:22:220:22:26

in other parts of the business of

this is about ending that

0:22:260:22:31

exploitation, in powering applicants

and making sure when people are

0:22:310:22:34

going for a job there is dignity

right from the application process

0:22:340:22:37

through to starting the job in the

first place.

There's nothing illegal

0:22:370:22:42

about being asked to work a trial

shift as long as it truly is a

0:22:420:22:46

trial, and the difficulty comes if

you need to prove you cross that

0:22:460:22:50

line into working as an employee.

Lots of employers argue that trial

0:22:500:22:55

shifts are the most effective way of

finding out whether a job is the

0:22:550:22:59

right fit for both parties.

Smaller businesses in particular

0:22:590:23:04

have to be careful not to overspend

on recruitment.

0:23:040:23:08

Small businesses can sometimes be

reticent about hiring or even

0:23:080:23:12

looking to expand headcount when the

work is there because they worry

0:23:120:23:15

they're making the wrong decision,

so the more we can do to make sure

0:23:150:23:18

we're hiring the right people, the

better. You just need to be very

0:23:180:23:22

careful that that doesn't cross into

what's exploitative.

0:23:220:23:26

And here it gets tricky, because

unpaid work is theoretically

0:23:260:23:30

voluntary, does that mean legally it

is hard to prove you should be paid?

0:23:300:23:35

There's a perception that legally

this is a grey area, is it a grey

0:23:350:23:39

area? What is illegal is to ask

someone to come in, give up their

0:23:390:23:45

time, provide services, provide

revenue potentially for an employer

0:23:450:23:48

and not pay them at least the

minimum wage if they're under 25, or

0:23:480:23:52

the national minimum wage if their

25 and above.

As far as you're

0:23:520:23:56

concerned there isn't a grey area?

Exactly, I wouldn't say there is a

0:23:560:24:01

grey area, it's as simple as that.

But when something's culturally

0:24:010:24:05

ingrained it is hard to be the first

to make a change, and tomorrow

0:24:050:24:12

Parliament will decide whether to

deliver a shift in the law that

0:24:120:24:15

would force that change for good.

Nina Warhurst, BBC News, Edinburgh.

0:24:150:24:19

Let us know what you think about

that.

0:24:190:24:23

The Department for Business,

Energy and Industrial Strategy says

0:24:230:24:26

it's already illegal to employ

people on unpaid trial work periods

0:24:260:24:29

for an excessive period of time,

or where there's no job

0:24:290:24:32

at the end of it.

0:24:320:24:33

The Government's committed

to spending £25 million on ensuring

0:24:330:24:36

the UK's lowest paid workers

get what they're owed.

0:24:360:24:38

You're watching Breakfast.

0:24:380:24:39

Still to come:

0:24:390:24:40

We'll catch up

with the Radio 1 DJ,

0:24:400:24:42

Greg James, he was forced

to stop his Pedal to the Peaks

0:24:420:24:45

challenge for Sport Relief two weeks

ago because of extreme weather.

0:24:450:24:48

He's back in the saddle now.

0:24:480:24:50

We'll find out how he's feeling

0:24:500:24:51

ahead of the final

part of the challenge,

0:24:510:24:54

climbing Ben Nevis.

0:24:540:25:02

What strikes me is he has chosen

another couple of days where there

0:25:020:25:08

is snow on the road. He has really

bad luck in regards to that, though.

0:25:080:25:13

Quite funny, though.

It will make a

good programme. Good luck to him.

0:25:130:28:35

in half an hour.

0:28:350:28:36

Plenty more on our website

at the usual address.

0:28:360:28:38

Now, though, it's back

to Charlie and Louise.

0:28:380:28:41

Bye for now.

0:28:410:28:41

Hello.

0:28:450:28:45

This is Breakfast,

with Louise Minchin and Charlie

0:28:450:28:47

Stayt.

0:28:470:28:47

We'll bring you the latest news

and sport in just a moment.

0:28:470:28:51

Coming up this morning.

0:28:510:28:54

4,000 trainee engineers are to be

recruited by Opeanreach,

0:28:540:28:56

the national broadband provider

to install its super high speed

0:28:560:28:59

fibre network to three

million properties by 2020.

0:28:590:29:03

We'll ask the woman in charge

if they are being ambitious enough.

0:29:030:29:06

Today, classrooms become newsrooms

as part of the BBC's annual

0:29:060:29:09

School Report News Day.

0:29:090:29:10

We'll take a look at an on-line game

designed to teach youngsters

0:29:100:29:13

to detect whether a story

is fake or real.

0:29:130:29:21

#Bye, bye, Miss American Pie...#.

0:29:290:29:34

Ahead of the release

of his new album and UK tour,

0:29:340:29:37

the American Pie singer, Don Mclean,

will join us here on the sofa.

0:29:370:29:40

Good morning.

0:29:400:29:41

Here's a summary of today's main

stories from BBC News.

0:29:410:29:44

The White House has backed Britain's

decision to expel 23 Russian

0:29:440:29:47

diplomats in response to the nerve

agent attack on a former spy

0:29:470:29:50

and his daughter in

Salisbury 11 days ago.

0:29:500:29:52

The explusions are just one

of the measures Thereasa May

0:29:520:29:55

is putting in place after Russia

missed the deadline

0:29:550:29:57

to explain what happened.

0:29:570:29:58

She says there is "no alternative

conclusion" than to believe

0:29:580:30:01

they are to blame.

0:30:010:30:03

The government is to significantly

increase funding for its military

0:30:030:30:05

research laboratory at Porton Down.

0:30:050:30:07

Scientists there have already

helped identify the nerve

0:30:070:30:09

agent used in the Salisbury attack.

0:30:090:30:11

Today, in his first major speech

as Defence Secretary,

0:30:110:30:13

Gavin Williamson will announce that

Porton Down will receive

0:30:130:30:15

an additional 48 million and that

thousands of British troops

0:30:150:30:18

are to be vaccinated

against anthrax.

0:30:180:30:25

Evidence of micro-plastics have been

found in some major brands

0:30:250:30:28

of bottled water, two

of which are available in the UK.

0:30:280:30:31

A study by Orb Media,

a group of not for profit

0:30:310:30:34

journalists, tested bottles from 11

countries and found particles

0:30:340:30:36

of tiny fragments of plastics

in almost all of them.

0:30:360:30:39

The World Health Organization now

says it will launch a review

0:30:390:30:42

into the potential impacts

of plastic on human health.

0:30:420:30:45

Scientists say that there is no

evidence yet to suggest

0:30:450:30:47

it is a cause for concern.

0:30:470:30:55

The Brexit Secretary, David Davis,

has said he is prepared to accept

0:31:010:31:04

the offer of the EU of a short and

transition period after the UK leads

0:31:040:31:08

the EU on March 2019. He said he

would agree to end at 2020 if that

0:31:080:31:16

helped to secure a deal at the EU

summit next week.

0:31:160:31:21

The use of food and medical supplies

as a weapon of war by the Syrian

0:31:210:31:25

regime has been branded utterly

abhorrent by Boris Johnson and Penny

0:31:250:31:31

Mordaunt. In a joint statement to

mark seven years of conflict

0:31:310:31:35

gripping the country, they are

branding the war as one of the

0:31:350:31:40

longest and bloodiest in recent

history.

0:31:400:31:42

Ministers are being called

on to introduce a faster phase-out

0:31:420:31:44

of petrol and diesel cars -

currently set for 2040.

0:31:440:31:47

(TX OOV) The MPs have also demanded

a new Clean Air Act,

0:31:470:31:50

and say the motor industry should

finance a clean air fund.

0:31:500:31:53

The government says it'll

publish its own proposals on air

0:31:530:31:56

pollution later in the year.

0:31:560:32:01

The consumer goods giant, Unilever,

is set to announce it's

0:32:010:32:03

moving its British headquarters

to the Netherlands later.

0:32:030:32:06

The firm that makes

brands including Persil,

0:32:060:32:08

Dove, and Marmite, is expected say

it wants to consolidate its main

0:32:080:32:11

base in Rotterdam, rather

than using two sites.

0:32:110:32:19

The move is seen as a major blow

as the Government tries to uphold

0:32:190:32:22

Britain's status as a centre

for business after Brexit.

0:32:220:32:24

Students and teachers

across the United States have staged

0:32:240:32:27

a mass walkout to honour the lives

of the 17 people killed

0:32:270:32:30

at a school in Florida.

0:32:300:32:32

Thousands of pupils and staff

left classes for 17

0:32:320:32:34

minutes, linking arms and hugging

each other to remember the victims

0:32:340:32:37

and demand a stronger stance

against gun violence.

0:32:370:32:42

If you were watching

Breakfast yesterday,

0:32:420:32:44

you might remember we told

you there was a possibility copper

0:32:440:32:46

coins could be scrapped

due to a fall in demand

0:32:460:32:49

after the Treasury launched a review

into the role of cash

0:32:490:32:52

and digital payments.

0:32:520:32:53

However, those pennies are set

to stay in the corner

0:32:530:32:56

of your wallets and purses

after a spokesman for Theresa May

0:32:560:32:59

said there were no plans to phase

out one and two pence coins.

0:32:590:33:02

Fear not. They will remain. And I,

for one, am delighted. I was

0:33:020:33:21

complaining a lot about it

yesterday.

If they faced them out,

0:33:210:33:24

what would people do with the giant

glass jars? People would be rushing

0:33:240:33:27

to the bank and post office,

counting them... Lucky we don't have

0:33:270:33:34

to. But the problem has gone away

now. It is OK. What a relief.

I will

0:33:340:33:43

talk about Chelsea, if that's OK.

They have problems, sadly, leaving

0:33:480:33:51

the Champions League. It was always

going to be difficult taking on

0:33:510:33:54

Barcelona, one for the treble now,

at the Nou Camp. There

0:33:540:34:06

at the Nou Camp. There was a huge

banner that said God Save the King,

0:34:060:34:08

referring to Messi. He got a good

one. He nutmegged someone twice last

0:34:080:34:13

night.

0:34:130:34:13

Chelsea have become the third

English team to be knocked out

0:34:130:34:16

of the Champions League

in the last 16.

0:34:160:34:19

They were beaten 3-0 by Barcelona

at the Nou Camp thanks to two goals

0:34:190:34:22

from one of the game's

greatest ever players.

0:34:220:34:25

But both of Lionel Messi's strikes

slipped through the legs

0:34:250:34:27

of the Chelsea goalkeeper

Thibaut Courtois.

0:34:270:34:29

Manchester City and Liverpool

are the only English sides left

0:34:290:34:32

in the quarter finals after Spurs,

Manchester United and now Chelsea

0:34:320:34:35

side were all beaten.

0:34:350:34:40

It was terrible to concede a goal

after only two minutes. But after

0:34:400:34:48

this, I think we tried to play

football. For a long time, we

0:34:480:34:57

dominated the game, and created the

chances to score.

0:34:570:35:01

You were watching that closely.

Ouch. The first time I did not

0:35:010:35:06

realise.

0:35:060:35:16

realise. Nutmegged. That is a bit

embarassing for a goalkeeper.

0:35:170:35:20

The Premier League's joint top

scorer Harry Kane won't be named

0:35:200:35:23

in Gareth Southgate's England

squad for two friendlies

0:35:230:35:25

which is announced today.

0:35:250:35:27

That's after it was confirmed

Kane'll be out until next month

0:35:270:35:30

with ankle ligament damage.

0:35:300:35:31

The Tottenham striker now faces

a battle to be fit for England

0:35:310:35:34

at the summer's World Cup in Russia.

0:35:340:35:36

He may return to full training

just seven weeks before

0:35:360:35:39

the tournament starts.

0:35:390:35:39

On his Twitter account,

Kane said he was "disappointed to be

0:35:390:35:42

out until next month,

but injuries are part of the game.

0:35:420:35:45

Will do everything I can to get back

out there as soon as possible."

0:35:450:35:49

Mark Hughes has been confirmed

as Southampton's new manager

0:35:490:35:52

until the end of the season.

0:35:520:35:53

The former Saints player was sacked

by Stoke City in January but now

0:35:530:35:57

takes charge on the south coast

with Southampton currently 17th,

0:35:570:35:59

one place and one point

above the relegation zone.

0:35:590:36:02

To Rugby Union, and England

head coach, Eddie Jones,

0:36:020:36:04

is in a bit of trouble this morning.

0:36:040:36:07

Jones has apologised "unreservedly"

after derogatory and offensive

0:36:070:36:09

comments about Wales and Ireland

made during a private event last

0:36:090:36:12

year emerged on line.

0:36:120:36:13

The Rugby Football Union will also

apologise to both the Welsh

0:36:130:36:16

and Irish unions.

0:36:160:36:20

It's day three of the Cheltenham

Festival but it'll be missing one

0:36:200:36:23

racing's biggest stars.

0:36:230:36:24

That's after a serious injury

to jockey Ruby Walsh yesterday.

0:36:240:36:27

He went to hospital with a suspected

broken leg when he fell

0:36:270:36:30

at the second last fence.

0:36:300:36:32

He broke the same leg four months

ago and had only just

0:36:320:36:35

made his return to racing.

0:36:350:36:36

Now he'll miss the rest

of the Festival, including

0:36:360:36:39

Friday's Gold Cup.

0:36:390:36:43

The big race of the day though,

was the Queen Mother Chase.

0:36:430:36:47

It was billed as a straight fight

between the British trained Altior

0:36:470:36:50

and Irish horse Douvan.

0:36:500:36:51

But after Douvan fell

with four fences to jump,

0:36:510:36:53

the evens favourite Altior ridden

by Nico de Boinville easily came

0:36:530:36:56

home in the end.

0:36:560:37:04

Now from a muddy track

to the race track.

0:37:100:37:12

Formula One champion Lewis Hamilton

says he doesn't know how much longer

0:37:120:37:15

he'll continue to race.

0:37:150:37:17

The Briton says talks with Mercedes

are relaxed as they look

0:37:170:37:20

to extend his contract

beyond the end of this season.

0:37:200:37:22

But the four time world champion

doesn't know for how long he'll

0:37:220:37:26

have the hunger to compete in F1.

0:37:260:37:27

Every time you get through another

season, you are

0:37:270:37:41

season, you are like, geez, I don't

want to do that again. You are done

0:37:440:37:48

with the year. I can't wait for my

holiday break. I don't know. I do

0:37:480:37:52

not want to stop early. I do not

want to stop premature, that is for

0:37:520:37:56

sure. I do not know how long. Are

could stay until I am 40, maybe.

0:37:560:38:05

could stay until I am 40, maybe. Two

years maybe. Will I still have that

0:38:050:38:08

excitement? I don't know.

Perhaps

only a few more years of Lewis

0:38:080:38:11

Hamilton.

0:38:110:38:13

In the wheelchair curling this

morning, Great Britain have lost

0:38:130:38:16

to South Korea.

0:38:160:38:16

If other results go against them

in the next couple of hours it means

0:38:160:38:20

they could be out.

0:38:200:38:21

They have one more game of their own

later in the round-robin stage,

0:38:210:38:25

that's against China.

0:38:250:38:26

We will bring you up-to-date on

that. Finally, if you are the

0:38:260:38:29

Masters champion and have a new baby

girl, what do you call her?

I do not

0:38:290:38:33

go.

You could go Augusta.

We said

that.

0:38:330:38:40

that.

Fairway... Birdie? Tee?

Garcia? Sergio Garcia had a baby

0:38:400:38:48

yesterday and he has called her,

there she

0:38:480:39:00

there she is, Azalea, because of the

Azaleas at the Augusta National. It

0:39:020:39:05

is famous for them. Based around the

Greens. They reflect on the

0:39:050:39:09

beautiful lakes. Lovely stuff, isn't

it?

0:39:090:39:17

Thanks to programmes

like Blue Planet Two,

0:39:170:39:18

we are increasingly aware

of the effects of plastic pollution.

0:39:180:39:21

The World Health Organization says

it is launching a review

0:39:210:39:24

into the potential impacts

of plastic on human health.

0:39:240:39:26

A study commissioned

Orb Media found microplastics

0:39:260:39:28

in bottled drinking water.

0:39:280:39:29

Scientists tested bottles

from eight countries,

0:39:290:39:31

including two brands

available here in the UK,

0:39:310:39:33

and found that almost all of them

contained tiny fragments of plastic.

0:39:330:39:36

Let's speak to report

author, Sherri Mason,

0:39:360:39:38

who is in San Diego this morning.

0:39:380:39:46

Good morning. Thank you for your

time. Could you outline what we have

0:39:480:39:53

learned from your study?

That

bottled water contains plastic, a

0:39:530:39:59

lot of plastic. That is the short

version. 92% of the bottled water we

0:39:590:40:07

tested contained plastic. For

particles bigger than about 100

0:40:070:40:16

microns, ten pieces of plastic per

litre. At smaller sizes, that's

0:40:160:40:19

number increased to 325 particles of

plastic per litre of bottled water.

0:40:190:40:26

Why is that a concern?

Well, each

piece of plastic... I mean, we have

0:40:260:40:33

to remember that plastic is not just

the volume, it is a mixture. --

0:40:330:40:40

polymer. It has all kinds of

chemicals in the plastic.

0:40:400:40:45

Frequently, plastics pick up

chemicals on the surface as well. In

0:40:450:40:48

fact, 4% of the particles we found

in the bottled water had industrial

0:40:480:40:52

lubricants on the surface of the

plastic. Umm, and so, each one of

0:40:520:40:57

these pieces of plastic, basically,

it almost becomes a little poison

0:40:570:41:06

pill, transferring those chemicals

into the food chain and up the food

0:41:060:41:08

chain.

I understand it has been

suggested that some of these

0:41:080:41:11

plastics may have gotten into the

bottles at the moment of the opening

0:41:110:41:15

of the bottle from the lid. Can you

just talk us through that?

Yeah, so,

0:41:150:41:23

umm, 66% of the particles that we

found within the water were

0:41:230:41:27

fragments. So these were not fibre

is coming off of clothes, which is

0:41:270:41:31

what has been found, for example, in

our tap water study released about

0:41:310:41:37

six months ago. -- fibres.

These are

fragments.

They came from something

0:41:370:41:41

that was a bigger item and

fragmented off. And then the second

0:41:410:41:47

thing is that we analysed the

plastic for what type of plastic it

0:41:470:41:51

was in terms of the polymer, and

more than half of the pieces of

0:41:510:42:03

plastic were polypropylene, used for

plastic caps. This indicates the

0:42:030:42:06

very act of opening the bottle could

actually be fracturing little pieces

0:42:060:42:09

of plastic off of that cap and it

could be dropping into the bottle of

0:42:090:42:14

water itself.

Now, those people that

make these bottled water is very

0:42:140:42:18

clearly across the board they have

all had a very different review. --

0:42:180:42:25

waters. They have said they are not

breaking any laws and are working

0:42:250:42:30

within regulations.

That is pretty

common too. I mean, there is kind of

0:42:300:42:36

a guidebook, if you have ever read

anything like Merchants of Doubt or

0:42:360:42:44

followed the tobacco story or

climate change, they have definite

0:42:440:42:47

ways they go about mitigating PR

disasters. That type of framing is

0:42:470:42:57

typical.

Can I ask you a personal

question? Given the research you

0:42:570:43:00

have done, you look through a

microscope at the things in bottled

0:43:000:43:06

water, will you be going out today.

You are in San Diego. Will you go

0:43:060:43:12

out today and buy a bottle of water?

I have not had a bottle of water in

0:43:120:43:17

at least a decade.

For that reason?

Umm, well, when you study plastic

0:43:170:43:21

pollution, it really... You really

quickly understand that each one of

0:43:210:43:27

us is part of the problem because of

how much we use plastic, which means

0:43:270:43:31

that each one of us as part of the

solution. And so it is really a

0:43:310:43:36

matter of changing our daily habits.

And when you study this as an area

0:43:360:43:40

of scientific research, you start

making those changes in your life

0:43:400:43:45

pretty quickly. When you are out,

even something as simple as doing a

0:43:450:43:49

beach cleanup, and you see all of

the straws and cups and bags and

0:43:490:43:53

bottle caps and... You know, you

start thinking how easy these things

0:43:530:43:59

come into our life and how easy

therefore they are to lose, and you

0:43:590:44:04

start to find ways to remove them

from the life. And that was one of

0:44:040:44:09

the first things I did.

Thank you

very much for your time this

0:44:090:44:13

morning. Looking in that report on

bottled water and the plastics they

0:44:130:44:17

contain. We will speak to someone

from the World Health Organization

0:44:170:44:22

who will also look into this

subsequent to that report later on

0:44:220:44:26

Breakfast.

0:44:260:44:28

23 Russian diplomats considered

to be undeclared spies

0:44:280:44:31

will be packing their bags this

morning after Theresa May gave them

0:44:310:44:34

seven days to leave the UK.

0:44:340:44:36

It's part of a list

of sanctions put in place

0:44:360:44:38

after Russia failed to explain why

a nerve agent was used in an attack

0:44:380:44:39

in Salisbury 11 days ago.

0:44:390:44:47

Let's get reaction to this

from the Russian politics lecturer,

0:44:470:44:50

Eleanor Bindman, who joins us now.

0:44:500:44:51

Good morning to you, thanks for

joining us. There are still so many

0:44:510:44:56

unknowns. First of all this getting

rid of spies, sending them back to

0:44:560:45:01

Russia, how effective is that as a

measure?

It does get a lot of

0:45:010:45:06

attention, it's quite a significant

number.

I say spies, they are

0:45:060:45:11

undeclared spies.

Absolutely. The

fact it is 23, that's a large

0:45:110:45:15

number, the largest number that have

ever been expelled, at least in the

0:45:150:45:19

post-war era. That is significant,

is likely to be met with a similar

0:45:190:45:23

response from the Russian

authorities so it's likely British

0:45:230:45:26

diplomats, may be the same number,

perhaps more less, will be expelled.

0:45:260:45:31

What impact does that have on

diplomacy?

It's a way of sending a

0:45:310:45:35

signal to the other side, obviously

it gets a lot of attention, lots of

0:45:350:45:39

media attention. Is really one of

the few things a government in a

0:45:390:45:43

very difficult position can actually

do as a concrete measure -- it's

0:45:430:45:47

really.

This phrase undeclared

spies, will the UK be saying to the

0:45:470:45:52

Russian Embassy, these are the names

of the individuals who are leaving?

0:45:520:45:57

Is that how this works?

It's hard to

say because they would need to know

0:45:570:46:00

exactly who these people are and

what is quite common is they

0:46:000:46:04

wouldn't necessarily hold a formal

position within the embassy, so the

0:46:040:46:07

British authorities may know who

they are but they may not, so they

0:46:070:46:10

may just say, it has to be this

number of people leaving.

One of the

0:46:100:46:15

issues this raises, lots of people

have said the same thing, and of

0:46:150:46:19

undeclared spy, why have we

tolerated people we know to be spies

0:46:190:46:25

for this length of time and hasn't

that compounded the problem of

0:46:250:46:28

allowing Russia to carry on with the

way it does its business right up

0:46:280:46:32

until now?

It's a problem but it is

something the British secret

0:46:320:46:36

services are engaged in around the

world too. It is common to have

0:46:360:46:40

undeclared covert operatives working

in different countries around the

0:46:400:46:46

world. The fact the Russians are

doing that isn't particularly

0:46:460:46:50

unusual, and every government

wouldn't be doing that in the UK

0:46:500:46:54

Stoppila Sunzu about the fact

Theresa May is saying there's no

0:46:540:46:58

alternative conclusion than to

believe Russia is culpable for the

0:46:580:47:01

attempted murder of a spy and his

daughter.

0:47:010:47:12

There's them arms for the evidence,

will that be handed over?

It won't

0:47:120:47:17

probably -- there's the demands.

They are likely to want to continue

0:47:170:47:20

this situation for as long as

possible.

0:47:200:47:24

Internationally, the UN meeting

overnight, this notion of the

0:47:240:47:27

probably bracket attached to almost

everything in connection with this,

0:47:270:47:33

what is it now, is it an allegation

or accepted fact? Is it's OK for it

0:47:330:47:39

to remain that? Given the nature of

the business we are in, espionage,

0:47:390:47:42

is it anything, ever going to be

anything but probably?

0:47:420:47:49

If you look at the Litvinenko case,

they knew the people who physically

0:47:490:47:53

carried out that particular attack,

but they never fully identified who

0:47:530:47:58

directly did it.

Over time that has

become an accepted fact, is that the

0:47:580:48:03

way you think this will play out

over time?

I think so, in the

0:48:030:48:06

absence of hard evidence, the

problem is the people that can

0:48:060:48:10

provide that evidence are the

victims who aren't in a condition to

0:48:100:48:14

do that. Unless the investigation

throws up something more concrete, I

0:48:140:48:18

think we'll be stuck in that

situation.

Eleanor Bindman,

0:48:180:48:21

fascinating talking to you, thank

you so much for your time.

Thank

0:48:210:48:25

you.

0:48:250:48:26

Matt is in Gloucestershire

for us this morning,

0:48:260:48:28

and there are signs there that

spring has finally sprung?

0:48:280:48:33

Good morning. I certainly am. We are

in Batsford algorithm -- Batsford

0:48:330:48:42

Arboretum in The Cotswolds.

0:48:420:48:45

Not the nicest of mornings but a

beautiful sight, 60 ogres, over 3000

0:48:460:48:53

trees, and the beautiful spring

flowers behind me, blooming in many

0:48:530:48:59

parts this week, as we see the

Thames rising steadily -- 60 acres.

0:48:590:49:03

-- the temperatures. A big shock

this weekend. Temperatures are set

0:49:030:49:10

to drop markedly. Let's look at the

forecast for the rest of the week.

0:49:100:49:14

The big temperature drop on the way

for the end of the week but to get

0:49:140:49:19

us there we have windy conditions in

northern areas through the rest of

0:49:190:49:22

the day and into tomorrow, and we

might see further showers and longer

0:49:220:49:26

spells of rain. Longer spells of

rain that many have today. Looking

0:49:260:49:29

more closely over the next few hours

into Scotland, lots of dry weather,

0:49:290:49:34

a few showers over the tops of the

Grampians maybe with a bit of snow,

0:49:340:49:38

most places dry. Rain into the

south-west, thoroughly wet in

0:49:380:49:42

Northern Ireland, minor flooding

after heavy rain in the last 24 is

0:49:420:49:46

and in much of northern England,

north Wales, north Midlands, East

0:49:460:49:50

Anglia, expect rain through the

rush-hour. South Midlands, southern

0:49:500:49:54

England, south Wales, drying out, a

bit of sunshine to the south-west

0:49:540:49:58

but a few showers affecting parts of

Devon and Cornwall. Into the rest of

0:49:580:50:03

the day, those showers will become

more prevalent and they could become

0:50:030:50:07

heavy and thundery. Many southern

areas will brighten up, even though

0:50:070:50:10

we may see showers, more sunshine

into the afternoon. Slowly turning

0:50:100:50:15

drier in Northern Ireland,

north-west England and East Anglia

0:50:150:50:18

but the north-west of England,

eastern Scotland, much of Scotland

0:50:180:50:20

fairly cloudy in the afternoon,

further rain at times, temperatures

0:50:200:50:25

around six in Aberdeen, 12 in

Plymouth. The milder air with us the

0:50:250:50:29

further south you are. Into the

night, throughout in fact, strong to

0:50:290:50:34

gale force winds in the north of the

country. Feeding in rain to Northern

0:50:340:50:39

Scotland and turning to snow over

the hills. Further snout, a few

0:50:390:50:44

showers continuing, clear skies

around with lighter winds in the

0:50:440:50:47

south -- further south. Some fog.

Temperatures holding up into

0:50:470:50:51

tomorrow morning. Just about frost

free. If you're going to see a frost

0:50:510:50:56

anywhere, likely in the north-west

of Scotland. Into Friday,

0:50:560:50:59

predominantly cloudy for the

northern half of the country.

0:50:590:51:02

Eastern Scotland and north-east

England, rain at times, strong to

0:51:020:51:06

gale force winds, snow in the

Grampians. Further south, brightness

0:51:060:51:10

in Northern Ireland, better than

today, lots of sunshine in northern

0:51:100:51:13

England and Wales but more showers

tomorrow were some could be heavy

0:51:130:51:17

and thundery. Temperatures are

dropping on Friday and more for the

0:51:170:51:22

weekend. Get ready for the big drop,

we will have strong easterly winds

0:51:220:51:25

UK wide, a fair amount of cloud, a

lot of dry weather, some sunshine

0:51:250:51:29

but later in the day snow flurries

in parts of eastern England and note

0:51:290:51:33

the temperatures, a few degrees

above freezing, 8-10 drop impaired

0:51:330:51:38

to today on Saturday and add in the

wind, it will feel subzero for many.

0:51:380:51:43

-- compared to. Not the Beast from

the east but the mini beast is on

0:51:430:51:48

its way for the weekend. You have

been warned.

Back to Charlie and

0:51:480:51:53

Louise. Daffodils looking lovely as

well. Matt, thanks very much!

0:51:530:52:00

Everyone wants a faster broadband

connection, isn't that right?

Not

0:52:000:52:05

everyone can get it, though, we will

be talking to one of the bosses of a

0:52:050:52:09

company who could get it for you in

a moment.

0:52:090:52:12

Openreach is still owned by BT

but was hived off from the telecoms

0:52:120:52:16

giant last year but operated

as a separate company.

0:52:160:52:20

It is responsible

for much of the fibres,

0:52:200:52:22

wires and cables that

connect the country.

0:52:220:52:24

It sells the use of its

infrastructre to nearly 600 telecoms

0:52:240:52:27

service providers,

including the likes of Sky,

0:52:270:52:29

TalkTalk, Vodafone and also to BT.

0:52:290:52:31

It's been criticised

by the telecoms regulator,

0:52:310:52:33

ministors and competitors

for dragging its heels on fibre

0:52:330:52:35

investment to enable

ultrafast broadband speeds.

0:52:350:52:37

But it recently announced that it

plans to connect 3m premises

0:52:370:52:40

in eight cities to its latest

all fibre network by 2020,

0:52:400:52:43

rising to 10m by the next decade.

0:52:430:52:51

And this morning it's announcing

a big recruitment programme to help

0:52:560:52:59

boost its upgrade plan.

0:52:590:53:02

Kim Mears, managing director

for infrastructure delivery

0:53:020:53:04

at Openreach.

0:53:040:53:07

Kim, good morning.

Good morning.

Why

are you investing this money and

0:53:070:53:13

taking on these new engineers?

3500 new engineers, obviously a

0:53:130:53:18

great announcement. Why now? Just

last month we announced our full

0:53:180:53:24

fibre plan, 3 million homes with

full fibre across those eight cities

0:53:240:53:28

by December 2020 and then we have

the ambition to go much further. Ten

0:53:280:53:32

million and beyond. Alongside that

we have a real drive around

0:53:320:53:37

improving customer service.

I want to talk about those two

0:53:370:53:41

things, customer service in a

moment, but firstly speed. Great if

0:53:410:53:44

you live in the cities that will

benefit, one of the big cities that

0:53:440:53:48

will get the investment, seven major

cities, what about the most of the

0:53:480:53:51

country?

If we go to Christmas time,

independent analysis said 95% of the

0:53:510:53:59

UK has access to 24 mg and above,

then you can download seven HD

0:53:590:54:06

videos and the whole family can

enjoy it, a good experience.

0:54:060:54:09

Alongside that obviously there's the

25% who don't have access and I

0:54:090:54:16

understand how difficult that is.

Why are we so bad at improving

0:54:160:54:20

speeds in this country? I looked at

the latest rankings, the UK is

0:54:200:54:23

ranked one of the worst countries in

the world for broadband speed, 31st

0:54:230:54:27

fastest. Not good for a developed

economy?

It depends, Ben, on the

0:54:270:54:34

statistics we use. The UK is also

ranked number one digital economy in

0:54:340:54:38

the G20. If you look at 95% of the

UK, access to 24 mg and above, we're

0:54:380:54:46

doing pretty well.

But is not good

enough. If you speak to most

0:54:460:54:51

businesses and consumers they want

faster because it's no longer a

0:54:510:54:55

luxury, it's a necessity.

Two

things, while we have the full fibre

0:54:550:54:59

announcement that says we will go

from 3-ten and hopefully beyond with

0:54:590:55:04

full fibre, that is 100 mg and

potentially up to 1 gigabyte. That's

0:55:040:55:09

if you like the next network. Over

and above that we've also got a

0:55:090:55:15

network today of 24 mg and above

capable of serving 27 million homes

0:55:150:55:20

and only 8 million customers are

taking

0:55:200:55:26

taking it, so we need to drive

adoption as well.

0:55:260:55:29

Sorry to interrupter but there's a

big issue, it's all well and good

0:55:290:55:32

you guys can put things in the

ground but there's the idea of

0:55:320:55:36

getting it from the pavement to your

house and that's when it slows down

0:55:360:55:40

because we are relying on old copper

wires -- to interrupter. How do we

0:55:400:55:44

improve the connection to our

houses?

That's the difference

0:55:440:55:46

between talking about copper,

superfast connectivity or full

0:55:460:55:48

fibre. Superfast connectivity would

build a new exchanges in the streets

0:55:480:55:54

near you, and the final tiny it is

copper. When we're talking about

0:55:540:55:58

full fibre, that's when we're taking

fibre direct from our exchange right

0:55:580:56:04

to the home, that's the 3 million,

ten million and beyond. You will see

0:56:040:56:09

the speeds up trading. Even if you

have that tiny piece left of copper,

0:56:090:56:13

you will still get great speeds

today.

Let's talk about competition

0:56:130:56:17

-- upgrading. You're in a market

where you have dominant position,

0:56:170:56:21

90% of the market, you haven't

really had competition, now you have

0:56:210:56:25

Vodafone and Virgin snapping at your

heels, but competition is good for

0:56:250:56:29

you because it will make you up your

game?

The competition has always

0:56:290:56:33

been there. If I go back to Virgin,

when we first started rolling out

0:56:330:56:40

superfast broadband, Virgin had a

substantial network. It didn't mean

0:56:400:56:43

we didn't invest. There's more

competition coming through and we

0:56:430:56:46

welcome that but we don't need that

to up our game, we are absolutely

0:56:460:56:50

determined with respect to both our

full fibre future but also around

0:56:500:56:55

the have nots.

Kim, good to see you,

time is against us but thanks for

0:56:550:57:00

coming in, boss of infrastructure

delivery at Openreach. More on the

0:57:000:57:05

Unilever story after 7am.

0:57:051:00:22

So stay tuned.

1:00:221:00:23

I'm back with the latest

from the BBC London newsroom

1:00:231:00:23

I'm back with the latest

from the BBC London newsroom

1:00:231:00:26

in half an hour.

1:00:261:00:27

Plenty more on our website

at the usual address.

1:00:271:00:30

Bye for now.

1:00:301:00:34

Hello.

1:00:341:00:35

This is Breakfast,

with Louise Minchin and Charlie

1:00:351:00:37

Stayt.

1:00:371:00:37

It is "Russia's crime."

1:00:371:00:38

The US joins Britain in blaming

Moscow for last week's

1:00:381:00:41

nerve agent attack.

1:00:411:00:42

At the United Nations,

its ambassador demands action

1:00:421:00:44

after Britain expels

23 Russian officials.

1:00:441:00:45

But the Kremlin again denies any

involvement in the Salisbury attack.

1:00:451:00:48

It's Thursday the 15th of March.

1:01:111:01:13

Also this morning:

1:01:131:01:13

What's in our bottled water?

1:01:131:01:15

The World Health Organization

investigates after hundreds,

1:01:151:01:16

even thousands, of tiny particles

of plastic are discovered

1:01:161:01:19

in a number of leading brands.

1:01:191:01:20

Lifting the lid on bottled water.

1:01:201:01:22

The consumer goods giant Unilever

is set to announce it's

1:01:221:01:25

moving its British headquarters

to the Netherlands.

1:01:251:01:27

The move will be

a blow to Downing St.

1:01:271:01:29

It's been in talks

to avert the move.

1:01:291:01:31

I'll have the details and look

at the impact on jobs

1:01:311:01:34

shortly.

1:01:341:01:35

So, what, it would be £1 and five

pence? Yeah?

1:01:351:01:43

One in three adults struggle to work

out their change at the check out.

1:01:431:01:47

So when it comes to sums,

are you top of the class

1:01:471:01:50

or at the back of the queue?

1:01:501:01:52

In sport, it's a Messi

masterclass for Chelsea.

1:01:521:01:54

They are knocked out

of the Champions League after losing

1:01:541:01:57

3-0 on the night at Barcelona.

1:01:571:01:59

Matt has the weather

for us this morning.

1:01:591:02:03

I will be in Gloucestershire or

morning in among the flowers. --

1:02:031:02:09

all. By the end of the week, better

weather is coming our way.

1:02:091:02:20

Good morning.

1:02:201:02:21

First, our main story.

1:02:211:02:22

The White House has backed Britain's

decision to expel 23 Russian

1:02:221:02:25

diplomats in response to the nerve

agent attack on a former spy

1:02:251:02:28

and his daughter in

Salisbury 11 days ago.

1:02:281:02:30

The explusions are just one

of the measures Thereasa May

1:02:301:02:33

is putting in place after Russia

missed the deadline to explain

1:02:331:02:36

what had happened.

1:02:361:02:43

Last night, the US Ambassodor

to the UN said Russia was to blame

1:02:431:02:47

for the attack.

1:02:471:02:54

Russia's rhyme is worthy of this

council's action. -- crime. United

1:02:541:03:00

States stands in absolute solidarity

with Britain. United States believes

1:03:001:03:08

Russia is responsible for the attack

on two people using a nerve agent.

1:03:081:03:18

Let's go to Richard

Galpin in Moscow.

1:03:181:03:20

What has the reaction

been there in Russia?

1:03:201:03:23

First, Keith Doyle. That was a few

hours ago. What has been the

1:03:231:03:34

reaction from Russia?

They have

denied having any involvement and

1:03:341:03:38

called the UK liars. Any retaliation

will come today or in the next few

1:03:381:03:45

days. The significance of the

statement from the US cannot be

1:03:451:03:48

underestimated. Saying that the US

stands in solidarity with its

1:03:481:03:54

closest ally, the United Kingdom.

The fact it came from the White

1:03:541:04:00

House, Donald Trump, in language he

has not used about Russia before. It

1:04:001:04:03

just shows the support the US has

for those measures Theresa May

1:04:031:04:07

announced yesterday, those measures

that include there will be no

1:04:071:04:11

ministers, no members of the royal

family, going to Russia for the

1:04:111:04:16

World Cup this summer. No mention of

England fielding a team. New travel

1:04:161:04:20

advice has come from the Foreign

Office and at the 10,000 or 20,000

1:04:201:04:27

England fans that may go to the

World Cups. -- aimed. It says that

1:04:271:04:32

Britain should be aware of the

possibility of anti- British

1:04:321:04:36

sentiment or harassment. Remain

vigilant and avoid protests and

1:04:361:04:42

demonstrations. That is the advice

to anyone going to Russia.

Thank

1:04:421:04:46

you. And now we go to Richard Galpin

in Moscow. No response to the

1:04:461:04:55

deadline? Any reaction to the news

overnight and what Theresa May has

1:04:551:05:00

led?

We certainly had a strong

statement from the Foreign Ministry.

1:05:001:05:05

As Keith Doyle was saying, the

Foreign Minister was talking about

1:05:051:05:10

UK officials, the Foreign Office,

saying they have no idea about

1:05:101:05:15

professionalism, diplomacy, and

international law. They say they are

1:05:151:05:19

fully fledged liars. It is very

strong language. So far, though,

1:05:191:05:24

nothing is being said from the

Kremlin. The spokesman of Vladimir

1:05:241:05:29

Putin, normally we hear a lot from

him. So far, silence on this issue

1:05:291:05:35

since Theresa May made a statement

yesterday. Meanwhile, of course,

1:05:351:05:38

state-controlled TV channels are

also being very strong in their

1:05:381:05:43

language. Of course, they are saying

Russia had nothing to do with the

1:05:431:05:48

poisoning. At then some quotes from

Channel one, saying even fake

1:05:481:05:55

evidence is not needed any more to

level accusations against Russia. It

1:05:551:05:58

is enough to just use the phrase

highly likely, of course, the

1:05:581:06:03

original phrase used by Theresa May

when she was pointing the finger at

1:06:031:06:06

Russia. As we know, in a statement

yesterday, she said absolutely there

1:06:061:06:11

is no other conclusion, what

happened in Salisbury was connected

1:06:111:06:15

to Russia.

Richard Galpin in Moscow.

Thank you very much indeed. We will

1:06:151:06:21

speak to the Foreign Secretary on

Breakfast at 20 to eight.

1:06:211:06:31

Breakfast at 20 to eight. Related

news.

1:06:321:06:36

The government is to significantly

increase funding for its military

1:06:361:06:39

research laboratory at Porton Down.

1:06:391:06:40

Scientists there have already helped

identify the nerve agent used

1:06:401:06:43

in the Salisbury attack.

1:06:431:06:44

Today, in his first major speech

as Defence Secretary,

1:06:441:06:47

Gavin Williamson will announce that

Porton Down will receive

1:06:471:06:49

an additional £48 million and that

thousands of British troops

1:06:491:06:52

are to be vaccinated

against anthrax.

1:06:521:07:00

The Brexit Secretary, David Davis,

has said he's prepared to accept

1:07:001:07:03

the EU's offer of a shortened

transition period of under two years

1:07:031:07:06

after the UK leaves

the European Union in March 2019.

1:07:061:07:09

He said he would agree to a call

for the transition to end

1:07:091:07:12

in December 2020 if that helped

to secure a deal at next week's EU

1:07:121:07:16

Summit.

1:07:161:07:16

The use of food and medical

supplies as a weapon of war

1:07:161:07:19

by the Syrian Regime has been

branded as "utterly abhorrent"

1:07:191:07:22

by the Foreign Secretary Boris

Johnson and International

1:07:221:07:24

Development Secretary

Penny Mordaunt.

1:07:241:07:25

In a joint statement to mark

the seven years of conflict

1:07:251:07:28

which has gripped the country,

they branded the war as "one

1:07:281:07:31

of the longest and bloodiest"

in recent history.

1:07:311:07:39

Ministers are being called

on to introduce a faster phase-out

1:07:421:07:45

of petrol and diesel cars,

currently set for 2040.

1:07:451:07:47

The MPs have also demanded

a new Clean Air Act,

1:07:471:07:50

and say the motor industry should

finance a clean air fund.

1:07:501:07:53

The government says it'll

publish its own proposals on air

1:07:531:07:56

pollution later in the year.

1:07:561:07:57

Here's our environment

analyst, Roger Harrabin.

1:07:571:07:59

The air in many of Britain's cities

is officially unfit to breathe.

1:07:591:08:02

And the MPs are angry that,

despite a series of court cases,

1:08:021:08:06

the government hasn't cleaned it up.

1:08:061:08:07

The young are particularly at risk,

and the MPs' report has received

1:08:071:08:11

support from UN children's

organisation, UNICEF,

1:08:111:08:12

which says that Britain's children

deserve to breathe clean air.

1:08:121:08:15

The government aims to end the sales

of diesel and petrol only vehicles

1:08:151:08:18

by 2040, but the MPs

say it is inadequate.

1:08:181:08:21

India will do it ten years earlier.

1:08:211:08:23

They say government must

work with local councils

1:08:231:08:25

to stop pollution-related deaths.

1:08:251:08:32

This really needs to be stamped out.

1:08:321:08:34

We need to improve it.

1:08:341:08:36

And that's why the whole report

talked about bringing government,

1:08:361:08:38

local authorities, together,

so we can work across,

1:08:381:08:41

not just here in London,

but across the country.

1:08:411:08:43

The government says it's looking

beyond cars to smokers,

1:08:431:08:49

fuel, and wood stoves

in its strategy, due later

1:08:491:08:52

in the year.

1:08:521:08:52

Roger Harrabin, BBC News.

1:08:521:09:00

The consumer goods giant Unilever

is set to announce it's

1:09:021:09:04

moving its British headquarters

to the Netherlands.

1:09:041:09:06

The move will be

a blow to Downing St.

1:09:061:09:09

It's been in talks

to avert the move.

1:09:091:09:12

This is a global brand.

You are

right. A huge company. One of the

1:09:211:09:31

components of the FTSE 100. It says

it will move its headquarters to

1:09:311:09:34

Rotterdam in the Netherlands. Many

people are saying this is a decision

1:09:341:09:42

resulting from Brexit. They have

been keen to point out they will

1:09:421:09:48

keep much of their staff here. That

is because last year they were

1:09:481:09:54

subject to a takeover from an

American firm and did not want it.

1:09:541:10:06

They are keen to say this is just

consolidation, about putting things

1:10:061:10:10

in order rather than moving because

of a result of the EU Referendum. We

1:10:101:10:15

just had a statement from the

government. Base a Unilever showed

1:10:151:10:20

long-term commitment to the UK, only

moving a few jobs. -- They say. They

1:10:201:10:26

will keep hundreds of jobs it is

they have important business

1:10:261:10:30

divisions here. They say the company

made clear the decision to move only

1:10:301:10:36

a small number of job is part of a

long-term restructuring. You will

1:10:361:10:40

see many headlines about whether it

is related to exit. They are keen to

1:10:401:10:46

say it is not.

-- Brexit.

1:10:461:10:50

You may have seen yesterday, we were

talking about this a bit, there was

1:10:501:10:57

a possibility copper coins could be

scrapped due to a fall in demand.

1:10:571:11:02

But there is good news for those who

like to count the pennies. They are

1:11:021:11:06

set to stay in your wallets, sofas,

and cupboards, went Theresa May's

1:11:061:11:15

spokesman said they will not be

phased out.

I have so many. I nearly

1:11:151:11:20

took a photo. I have a tree full of

them which is about that deep. --

1:11:201:11:25

tray.

How many?

I have not counted.

Sport and weather coming up later

1:11:251:11:31

on.

1:11:311:11:38

Hundreds of thousands of tiny pieces

of plastic have been found in some

1:11:381:11:42

major brands of bottled water,

only two of which are available

1:11:421:11:45

in the UK.

1:11:451:11:45

A study by Orb Media,

a group of journalists in America

1:11:451:11:48

tested bottles from 11 countries

and found particles of microplastics

1:11:481:11:51

in almost all of them.

1:11:511:11:52

The World Health Organization now

says it will launch a review

1:11:521:11:55

into the potential impacts

of plastic on human health.

1:11:551:11:59

Our science editor,

David Shukman, has the details

1:11:591:12:01

Bottles of water are a feature

of everyday life around the world.

1:12:011:12:04

But new tests commissioned

by journalists at Orb Media have

1:12:041:12:07

discovered something unexpected,

tiny particles of plastic

1:12:071:12:09

in the water.

1:12:091:12:11

At this lab in New York State,

tests were carried out on more

1:12:111:12:14

than 250 bottles.

1:12:141:12:15

A special kind of dye was added

that's known to stick

1:12:151:12:18

to pieces of plastic.

1:12:181:12:26

Under certain wavelengths of light

it causes them to sparkle like stars

1:12:261:12:29

in the night sky.

1:12:291:12:30

On average, per litre,

there were ten large particles,

1:12:301:12:33

each larger than the width

of a typical human hair

1:12:331:12:35

and confirmed as being plastic.

1:12:351:12:37

Smaller particles were also found.

1:12:371:12:38

On average, 314 per litre.

1:12:381:12:39

They weren't confirmed,

but were probably plastic.

1:12:391:12:41

At the moment, there are no rules

covering these micro-plastics or any

1:12:411:12:45

agreed way of checking for them.

1:12:451:12:49

It's an indication that we

should be concerned.

1:12:491:12:52

It's not catastrophic,

the numbers that we're seeing,

1:12:521:12:54

but it's concerning,

especially if you look at then,

1:12:541:12:56

if you're drinking only bottled

water and you do this every day

1:12:561:13:00

over, you know, a year, you know,

you're literally talking thousands

1:13:001:13:03

of pieces of plastic that

you are ingesting from the water

1:13:031:13:05

that you're drinking.

1:13:051:13:13

We contacted all of

the companies involved.

1:13:161:13:18

This is what Nestle told us.

1:13:181:13:19

Danone, which owns Evian,

said this of the study.

1:13:191:13:22

Coca Cola, which makes

Dasani, said this.

1:13:221:13:24

This is the first time that bottled

water has been tested for plastic

1:13:241:13:27

on this scale.

1:13:271:13:28

11 different brands bought in nine

different countries.

1:13:281:13:31

And in almost every case,

they found some plastic.

1:13:311:13:33

And so the big question is what this

might mean for our health?

1:13:331:13:36

The Food Standards Agency says it's

unlikely micro-plastics

1:13:361:13:38

could cause harm.

1:13:381:13:39

But the World Health Organization

now wants to review the evidence,

1:13:391:13:42

and scientists say more

evidence is needed.

1:13:421:13:50

As we become more aware

of the prevalence of micro-plastics

1:14:021:14:05

and the potential harm they might

cause, I think we need to start

1:14:051:14:08

thinking now about how we reduce

those inputs so that we're not

1:14:081:14:12

stoking up a huge

problem for the future.

1:14:121:14:17

The advice where water supplies

are dirty is that bottled water

1:14:171:14:20

is much safer.

1:14:201:14:20

But this study raises questions

about where plastic can end up

1:14:201:14:23

and whether the tiniest pieces

can affect our health.

1:14:231:14:31

David Shukman, BBC

News, New York State.

1:14:361:14:44

Bye for now.

1:14:451:14:46

Let's talk about that right now with

Bruce Gordon, the co-ordinator of

1:14:461:14:51

water and sanitation for the World

Health Organization, he joins us

1:14:511:14:55

from Geneva this morning. Good

morning, thanks for joining us. How

1:14:551:14:58

concerned are you by what you've

heard?

1:14:581:15:02

We've been following the story with

interest and I would say that we're

1:15:021:15:07

concerned in the sense that this is

an environmental issue and there is

1:15:071:15:10

an indication that you've got

plastics everywhere, this is very

1:15:101:15:15

ubiquitous, so in some sense this

was unsurprising but there's a large

1:15:151:15:19

body of evidence that's just not

there. For us to be able to

1:15:191:15:24

definitively say, OK, this is not a

problem, I think we need to work

1:15:241:15:28

with the research community to kind

of really see what the gaps are. So

1:15:281:15:32

in that sense, we feel that it is

worth discussing, it is worth

1:15:321:15:38

reviewing what is out there and

what's not out there and what the

1:15:381:15:41

research priorities are so we can

work with that community.

1:15:411:15:44

That's what I want to pick up on,

what the research priorities are,

1:15:441:15:49

because presumably we need to know

whether the plastics, as you say,

1:15:491:15:53

are in our environment, and many of

the things we use, what impact that

1:15:531:15:57

has on human health. Is that your

main priority?

1:15:571:16:02

That's right. There's many threads

to this and I think exposure is one

1:16:021:16:07

threat, this is a bottled water

story but it's likely plastics are

1:16:071:16:10

coming from many packaged goods and

many parts of the environment are

1:16:101:16:15

being influenced. When we test for

it, now we have more analytical

1:16:151:16:19

techniques, we're finding it. So the

question is how this is arriving in

1:16:191:16:23

terms of ingestion and exposure, and

an understanding what happens in the

1:16:231:16:27

body. I think right now we have a

speculative discussion about some of

1:16:271:16:33

the possible routes of toxicity but

really we don't understand it. I

1:16:331:16:37

want to re-emphasise that this is

something that an emerging issue,

1:16:371:16:43

it's not the first priority in terms

of known health issues, but it is

1:16:431:16:47

something we have to respond to and

consumers will be asking those

1:16:471:16:50

questions. I think we need to do

some due diligence to better

1:16:501:16:55

understand how we can respond to the

issues.

1:16:551:17:00

When would we know the results of

that? People will be waking up this

1:17:001:17:04

morning hearing that and thinking,

what do I do?

1:17:041:17:08

I don't think people should be

worried. This is not... When we say

1:17:081:17:13

we're going to be looking at the

evidence for it, you know, we can

1:17:131:17:17

only make any sort of risk

assessment if we know that there's

1:17:171:17:21

concentrations in drinking water of

concern to human health. We're

1:17:211:17:25

barely scratching the surface in

terms of what... How we can make a

1:17:251:17:29

risk assessment. We have really no

information in many ways to go on. I

1:17:291:17:34

think it's going to be a long-term

effort. People are not going to

1:17:341:17:38

definitively known for quite some

time, this is going to be in the

1:17:381:17:42

realm of the researchers. But I

think we can, you know, in many ways

1:17:421:17:47

possibly do some, I guess, thought

experiments and reassure the public

1:17:471:17:51

that may be a likely outcome, or a

likely outcome might be that, look,

1:17:511:17:56

we're just going to have to wait.

But I think the only thing we can do

1:17:561:18:00

is really try to package everything

that is known and not known and get

1:18:001:18:05

it out there. But I don't think,

again, this is something that is,

1:18:051:18:09

you know, people should be worried

about ingesting a bottle of water or

1:18:091:18:15

food at this point. It's very much

to early to start really getting

1:18:151:18:21

worried.

Bruce Gordon from the World Health

1:18:211:18:23

Organization. Just on those

companies, they say they all stand

1:18:231:18:27

by the safety of their products, a

few set their own testing hadn't

1:18:271:18:30

found plastic above trace levels and

pointed out at the moment there are

1:18:301:18:34

no rolls on so-called microplastics

or any agreed way of testing for

1:18:341:18:38

them.

As he pointed out, there's lots of

1:18:381:18:41

unknowns.

A lot of unknowns.

We are going to speak to the Foreign

1:18:411:18:48

Secretary, Boris Johnson, at 7:40am.

I think we need a little fresh air

1:18:481:18:53

right now.

A few nice flowers?

Morning, Matt.

Good morning, plenty

1:18:531:19:01

of those in abundance and lots of

fresh air. Good morning from

1:19:011:19:07

Batsford Arboretum, in The

Cotswolds, a delightful setting. The

1:19:071:19:11

Arboretum itself dates back to 1880.

It went under a bit of this repair

1:19:111:19:17

during the Second World War but

brought back to life and has got

1:19:171:19:21

stronger ever since. In amongst the

daffodils, if you been enjoying the

1:19:211:19:24

rain at the moment, but looking at

the forecast, not just here but

1:19:241:19:29

across the country, temperatures

dropping markedly into the weekend.

1:19:291:19:32

The wind will remain strong but

certainly through the day, a mixture

1:19:331:19:37

of showers to the south and longer

spells of rain heading north.

1:19:371:19:40

Looking at the big picture across

the UK, you can see the slice of wet

1:19:401:19:45

weather stretching across the

central swathe, that will work

1:19:451:19:49

north. In Scotland, lots of dry

weather in the morning, a few

1:19:491:19:53

showers over the hills but most

places starting dry. The far

1:19:531:19:57

south-west, rain edging in, it's

been there overnight in Northern

1:19:571:20:01

Ireland, minor flooding here and

there, big puddles elsewhere in

1:20:011:20:05

northern England, north Midlands,

East Anglia where rain will continue

1:20:051:20:08

in the rush-hour. South Midlands,

south Wales and the south coast,

1:20:081:20:12

some showers but gradually the skies

will brighten and the odd bit of

1:20:121:20:16

sunshine. The winds lighter further

south impaired to yesterday, strong

1:20:161:20:21

to gale force wind further north and

the rain band will ease away from

1:20:211:20:25

Northern Ireland, better by the end

of the afternoon, the same in parts

1:20:251:20:28

of north-west England and East

Anglia but the north-east England, a

1:20:281:20:31

good part of Scotland will be wet

with further outbreaks of rain and

1:20:311:20:35

the cold winds keeping temperatures

in Aberdeen around six. For most, a

1:20:351:20:39

mild day for the time of year, 12 or

13 in the south with sunshine but

1:20:391:20:44

watch out for slow-moving heavy and

thundery showers. Tonight, clear

1:20:441:20:47

spells and occasional showers in the

south, north-east England and

1:20:471:20:51

eastern Scotland continues with the

rain and strong winds. A fair amount

1:20:511:20:55

of cloud around, temperatures will

drop overnight. Holding largely

1:20:551:21:00

above freezing, maybe the odd spot

in Northern Scotland seeing a frost

1:21:001:21:04

into the start of tomorrow morning.

Into Friday, eastern Scotland,

1:21:041:21:09

north-east England staying cloudy,

outbreaks of rain and snow on the

1:21:091:21:12

likes of the Grampians and the tops

of the Southern Uplands and maybe

1:21:121:21:15

the far north Pennines. Many places

to the west and south will stay dry

1:21:151:21:20

for a time with sunshine, but while

we see the best of the sunshine in

1:21:201:21:23

the Midlands, south Wales and

southern England, with the best of

1:21:231:21:26

the temperatures of course, a

scattering of showers as well. Some

1:21:261:21:29

heavy and thundery. The big change

comes into Saturday, with

1:21:291:21:35

temperatures in the low teens in

some areas in the south on Friday,

1:21:351:21:39

by Saturday, cold easterly winds UK

wide bringing variable amounts of

1:21:391:21:43

cloud, and sunshine here and there

and snow flurries in eastern parts

1:21:431:21:47

of England in particular. What you

will notice are the temperatures,

1:21:471:21:51

hovering above freezing in many

parts of the country. 8-10 degrees

1:21:511:21:56

drop on what we have had of late,

and add on the strong winds, we have

1:21:561:22:01

an added windchill as well. Feeling

cold into the weekend and the cold

1:22:011:22:05

weather will continue into Sunday,

with more in the way of snow showers

1:22:051:22:09

in the south of the country, but

things will be dry further north.

1:22:091:22:13

That's how the weather is looking,

at least here in the Batsford

1:22:131:22:18

Arboretum at the moment, it is dry.

The daffodils looking splendid and

1:22:181:22:22

did you know there's over 13,000

varieties at the moment around the

1:22:221:22:27

world? That's how it's looking. Back

to you both.

1:22:271:22:30

I'm giving you warning, later on I

expect a song in those surroundings,

1:22:321:22:36

just a couple of lines, it would

look nice, it would be lovely. Is

1:22:361:22:40

that's OK?

I've been warned, have I?

For you. Maybe not poor you, maybe

1:22:401:22:48

you are brilliant at singing?

We

will ask people to send in

1:22:481:22:53

suggestion is appropriate to your

circumstance. I'm looking forward to

1:22:531:22:56

it.

I'm not liking the way this is

going!

Good luck, Matt.

It is

1:22:561:23:01

happening anyway!

1:23:011:23:02

If you watch Breakfast regularly,

you'll know we've challenged some

1:23:021:23:05

of the team to go back to school

and resit their maths GCSE,

1:23:051:23:09

to give them an idea

what it is like for pupils

1:23:091:23:12

who are preparing to sit the exam.

1:23:121:23:16

It comes as one in three adults

in the UK struggle to work

1:23:161:23:19

out change on a shopping trip,

that's according to researchers

1:23:191:23:22

from University College London

and Cambridge University.

1:23:221:23:24

We decided to test the financial

literacy of people in Manchester.

1:23:241:23:27

It would be £1.

I think. £1.05.

£1.

£1.

1:23:341:23:56

That's quite hard. It is just short

of £14 I think, so I should end up

1:24:071:24:12

with about £6 change iss?

About £6

roughly?

1:24:121:24:23

About £7.

1:24:231:24:26

£6.10?

I agree. £7.10?

1:24:341:24:42

If you're trying to

1:24:461:24:46

If you're trying to do the maths at

home, the questions were quite

1:24:461:24:49

quick, so we will do it again later.

1:24:491:24:52

Let's talk to Mike Ellicock,

the chief executive

1:24:521:24:54

of National Numeracy,

a charity that promotes

1:24:541:24:56

the importance of

everyday maths skills.

1:24:561:24:59

A lot of them answered with about

£6, is that right, is that helpful,

1:24:591:25:05

is that how we should be looking at

numbers?

Absolutely, that's fine,

1:25:051:25:09

realistically you're not going to

get York Outer later out at the till

1:25:091:25:13

so if you know roughly the answer

will be this then that's fine as far

1:25:131:25:17

as we're concerned -- York Outer

later. The big thing with this

1:25:171:25:21

research, it is socially accessible

to say I can't do maths, fold your

1:25:211:25:25

arms, that holds you back

significantly in life.

You're at the

1:25:251:25:28

till and say you have a ballpark

figure so you're not walking out £10

1:25:281:25:34

short, it's the big numbers you're

concerned with?

It's the big stuff,

1:25:341:25:40

absolutely. In terms of the biggest

expenditure most people have, it is

1:25:401:25:43

their mortgage. There's data to show

lots of people are on a worse rate

1:25:431:25:49

of mortgage than they could be so

those decisions you need to get

1:25:491:25:53

right. That comes from engaging with

the numbers, you need to stop, think

1:25:531:25:57

and engage with numbers.

For

example, when you're buying a

1:25:571:26:00

mortgage they will give you the

interest rate and the feed and you

1:26:001:26:03

have to sit down and kind of

workout, actually, if I paid this

1:26:031:26:07

the wind this interest rate it's

going to make quite a difference?

1:26:071:26:11

You have to concentrate and know

what you're doing

1:26:111:26:18

there's so much evidence to suggest

aren't doing that.

1:26:201:26:24

A third of mortgages at the moment

our standard variable and the

1:26:241:26:28

average interest is 4.5%. You can

get a mortgage now on about 2%.

1:26:281:26:33

People are giving a few thousand

pounds a year to the bank for

1:26:331:26:36

nothing. We think that is criminal

and we would like people to engage

1:26:361:26:40

with those numbers and all kinds of

numbers.

You referenced a moment ago

1:26:401:26:45

some people are saying I can't bear

maths, I run away from all those

1:26:451:26:50

things, do people slightly

underestimate their ability to do

1:26:501:26:52

the kind of thing you're talking

about? Rather than a sum on a piece

1:26:521:26:56

of paper, that's how they think of

maths, but people underestimate

1:26:561:27:00

their ability to do commonsense

calculations?

1:27:001:27:03

Completely. The problem is for many

years we've been focusing on the

1:27:031:27:07

wrong kind of maths. At secondary

school, the kind of things you see

1:27:071:27:11

on the board behind you guys is

complex maths in simple situations.

1:27:111:27:17

But what we all need in daily life

is simple maths in complex

1:27:171:27:22

situations. We're all about simple

maths in complex or two Asians and

1:27:221:27:26

we call that the essentials of

numeracy, so we have an online tool

1:27:261:27:29

where people can check if they have

those -- complex situations.

What

1:27:291:27:36

are they?

It is about

decision-making, problem-solving and

1:27:361:27:40

reasoning, using the tools of maths.

Using the operations and

1:27:401:27:45

calculations, understanding how the

number system works, that's what we

1:27:451:27:49

need to bring more focus on because

that's the weakness in this country.

1:27:491:27:52

I fit into the category of people we

talked about earlier, they are a bit

1:27:521:27:56

scared of it, but I have to say, the

way you talk about it makes me feel

1:27:561:28:01

more confident about its.

That's the

idea.

It's a challenge but in a good

1:28:011:28:06

weight.

It's about engaging your

brain. -- about it.

1:28:061:28:10

Look at the obesity crisis we have,

you have to be uncomfortable in the

1:28:101:28:14

short-term to be comfortable in the

long-term.

1:28:141:28:18

Naga has volunteered, Tim and Jane

as well, to do GCSE maths this year.

1:28:181:28:22

A project ongoing.

1:28:221:31:43

issued a weather warning for Sunday.

1:31:431:31:44

So stay tuned.

1:31:441:31:45

I'm back with the latest

from the BBC London newsroom

1:31:451:31:48

in half an hour.

1:31:481:31:49

Bye for now.

1:31:491:31:52

Hello.

1:31:521:31:53

This is Breakfast,

with Louise Minchin and Charlie

1:31:531:31:56

Stayt.

1:31:561:31:58

We'll bring you the latest news

and sport in just a moment.

1:31:581:32:01

Coming up this morning.

1:32:011:32:06

The White House has backed Britain's

decision to expel 23 Russian

1:32:061:32:09

diplomats in response to the nerve

agent attack on a former spy

1:32:091:32:12

and his daughter in

Salisbury 11 days ago.

1:32:121:32:14

The explusions are just one

of the measures Thereasa May

1:32:141:32:17

is putting in place after Russia

missed the deadline

1:32:171:32:19

to explain what happened.

1:32:191:32:20

She says there is "no alternative

conclusion" than to believe

1:32:201:32:23

they are to blame.

1:32:231:32:24

Last night, the US Ambassador

to the UN said Russia was to blame

1:32:241:32:28

for the attack.

1:32:281:32:36

Let me make absolutely, the US

stands in absolute solidarity with

1:32:361:32:40

Britain and believes Russia was

responsible for the attack on two

1:32:401:32:43

people in the UK using military

grade nerve agent weaponry.

1:32:431:32:49

The government is to significantly

increase funding for its military

1:32:491:32:52

research laboratory at Porton Down.

1:32:521:32:53

Scientists there have already

helped identify the nerve

1:32:531:32:55

agent used in the Salisbury attack.

1:32:551:32:57

Today, in his first major speech

as Defence Secretary,

1:32:571:32:59

Gavin Williamson will announce that

Porton Down will receive

1:32:591:33:02

an additional 48 million and that

thousands of British troops

1:33:021:33:05

are to be vaccinated

against anthrax.

1:33:051:33:08

Evidence of micro-plastics have been

found in some major brands

1:33:081:33:10

of bottled water, two

of which are available in the UK.

1:33:101:33:13

A study by Orb Media,

a group of not for profit

1:33:131:33:16

journalists, tested bottles from 11

countries and found particles

1:33:161:33:19

of tiny fragments of plastics

in almost all of them.

1:33:191:33:22

The World Health Organization now

says it will launch a review

1:33:221:33:25

into the potential impacts

of plastic on human health.

1:33:251:33:27

Scientists say that there is no

evidence yet to suggest

1:33:271:33:30

it is a cause for concern.

1:33:301:33:38

Ministers are being called

on to introduce a faster phase-out

1:33:451:33:48

of petrol and diesel cars

currently set for 2040.

1:33:481:33:50

The MPs have also demanded

a new Clean Air Act,

1:33:501:33:53

and say the motor industry should

finance a clean air fund.

1:33:531:33:56

The government says it'll

publish its own proposals on air

1:33:561:33:58

pollution later in the year.

1:33:581:34:02

The consumer goods giant, Unilever,

is set to announce it's

1:34:021:34:05

moving its British headquarters

to the Netherlands later.

1:34:051:34:07

The firm that makes

brands including Persil,

1:34:071:34:09

Dove, and Marmite, is expected say

it wants to consolidate its main

1:34:091:34:12

base in Rotterdam, rather

than using two sites.

1:34:121:34:14

The move is seen as a major blow

as the Government tries to uphold

1:34:141:34:18

Britain's status as a centre

for business after Brexit.

1:34:181:34:26

We will have the weather in ten

minutes. Some lovely daffodils.

1:34:271:34:34

Spring is almost in the air.

I am

depressed about the snow this

1:34:341:34:39

weekend.

Just enjoyed for the

moment. -- enjoy it for the. Tell us

1:34:391:34:48

about Chelsea and

1:34:481:34:53

about Chelsea and how they fared.

The night of the nutmeg. The poor

1:35:031:35:05

goalkeeper. One of the greatest

players ever put it between his legs

1:35:051:35:09

twice.

I suppose he is one of the

best. It is not that shameful.

Yeah,

1:35:091:35:17

but twice. There we go. Through the

legs. Slow

1:35:171:35:28

legs. Slow motion to hammer that

home. 3-0 was the final score at the

1:35:301:35:34

Nou Camp. Manchester City in

Liverpool are the only sides left

1:35:341:35:40

after Spurs, United, and Chelsea,

all beaten.

1:35:401:35:43

It was terrible to concede a goal

after only two minutes.

1:35:431:35:46

But after this, I think

we tried to play football.

1:35:461:35:49

For a long time, we dominated

the game, and created

1:35:491:35:52

the chances to score.

1:35:521:35:57

The Premier League's joint top

scorer Harry Kane won't be named

1:35:571:36:00

in Gareth Southgate's England

squad for two friendlies

1:36:001:36:02

which is announced today.

1:36:021:36:03

That's after it was confirmed

Kane'll be out until next month

1:36:031:36:06

with ankle ligament damage.

1:36:061:36:07

The Tottenham striker now faces

a battle to be fit for England

1:36:071:36:10

at the summer's World Cup in Russia.

1:36:101:36:12

He may return to full training

just seven weeks before

1:36:121:36:15

the tournament starts.

1:36:151:36:23

On his Twitter account,

Kane said he was "disappointed to be

1:36:261:36:29

out until next month,

but injuries are part of the game.

1:36:291:36:32

Will do everything I can to get back

out there as soon as possible."

1:36:321:36:36

Mark Hughes has been confirmed

as Southampton's new manager

1:36:361:36:38

until the end of the season.

1:36:381:36:40

The former Saints player was sacked

by Stoke City in January but now

1:36:401:36:43

takes charge on the south coast

with Southampton currently 17th,

1:36:431:36:46

one place and one point

above the relegation zone.

1:36:461:36:54

Great Britain have lost to South

Korea in the curling at the

1:37:011:37:05

Paralympics.

1:37:051:37:14

Paralympics. They could be out in

the next few hours. One more game

1:37:161:37:19

against China in the round-robin

stage.

1:37:191:37:21

It's day three of the Cheltenham

Festival but it'll be missing one

1:37:211:37:24

racing's biggest stars.

1:37:241:37:25

That's after a serious injury

to jockey Ruby Walsh yesterday.

1:37:251:37:28

He went to hospital with a suspected

broken leg when he fell

1:37:281:37:31

at the second last fence.

1:37:311:37:32

He broke the same leg four months

ago and had only just

1:37:321:37:35

made his return to racing.

1:37:351:37:37

Now he'll miss the rest

of the Festival, including

1:37:371:37:39

Friday's Gold Cup.

1:37:391:37:44

But on a difficult day for the Walsh

family there was some success

1:37:441:37:48

for Ruby's sister, Katy.

1:37:481:37:49

She won on board the 25-1 shot

Relegate in the final race

1:37:491:37:52

of the day.

1:37:521:37:53

The big race of the day though,

was the Queen Mother Chase.

1:37:531:37:56

It was billed as a straight fight

between the British trained Altior

1:37:561:38:00

and Irish horse Douvan.

1:38:001:38:01

But after Douvan fell

with four fences to jump,

1:38:011:38:03

the evens favourite Altior ridden

by Nico de Boinville easily came

1:38:031:38:06

home in the end.

1:38:061:38:07

Let's return to our main story now.

1:38:071:38:09

23 Russian diplomats considered

to be undeclared spies

1:38:091:38:11

will be packing their bags this

morning after Theresa May gave them

1:38:111:38:14

seven days to leave the UK.

1:38:141:38:16

It's part of a list

of sanctions put in place

1:38:161:38:19

after Russia failed to explain why

a nerve agent was used in an attack

1:38:191:38:23

in Salisbury 11 days ago.

1:38:231:38:24

Let's speak to the Foreign

Secretary, Boris Johnson,

1:38:241:38:26

who is in our London newsroom.

1:38:261:38:30

Thank you for your time this

morning. Starting with some basics.

1:38:301:38:36

We have not had a chance to ask

anyone from the government in the

1:38:361:38:40

past two days. A condition check.

Sergei Skripal, his daughter, and

1:38:401:38:52

Sergeant Nick Baley.

To be the best

of my knowledge, both of the

1:38:521:38:58

Skripals are stable. What has

happened to them is appalling. The

1:38:581:39:03

brave police officer is himself

still in hospital. I believe he is

1:39:031:39:08

responding to treatment. But it is a

measure of the Russian recklessness

1:39:081:39:13

and brutality that they are willing

to engage not just the

1:39:131:39:25

to engage not just the lives of the

Skripals and police officers, but

1:39:251:39:26

anyone in the vicinity in Salisbury.

That is what has shocked and

1:39:261:39:29

appalled not just this country, but

partners around the world supplied

1:39:291:39:34

can you give us details this morning

about who is supporting Britain in

1:39:341:39:39

their stands that Russia was

responsible? -- stance. I was

1:39:391:39:44

heartened by the strength of the

support from around the world. A

1:39:441:39:50

very powerful statement of support

from the White House, from Nikki

1:39:501:39:54

Haley last night at the UN, from

across the European continent.

1:39:541:39:58

Voices have been raised in protest

at what Russia has done. There is

1:39:581:40:04

very little doubting that this is a

signature act by the Russian state

1:40:041:40:12

deliberately using a nerve agent

developed by

1:40:121:40:19

developed by Russia, Novichok, to

punish a Russian defector, as they

1:40:311:40:33

would see it, and in the runup to

the election in Russia. There is

1:40:331:40:37

global disgust. That is important.

We will continue to make the case to

1:40:371:40:40

friends and allies, that as a

committee of nations, we need to

1:40:401:40:44

stand up to Russia.

And you have

said there is a unity over the

1:40:441:40:49

questions marks over the evidence.

That is not entirely true. Look at

1:40:491:40:52

the spokesman from President Macron

who said once the elements are

1:40:521:40:58

proven, then the time will come for

decisions to be made. The Russians,

1:40:581:41:02

of course, have asked for evidence.

They are not the only ones. It is

1:41:021:41:08

not unreasonable, while being

horrified at what happened in

1:41:081:41:13

hearing what the government has

dead, it is possible to

1:41:131:41:17

simultaneously say to you as Foreign

Secretary, to Theresa May, what is

1:41:171:41:20

the direct evidence thinking what

happened in Salisbury to the

1:41:201:41:23

Kremlin? -- has said.

Let's be

clear. This was a former Russian

1:41:231:41:30

agent living in this country who had

been singled out already by the

1:41:301:41:35

Russian state as an object for

revenge and retaliation. Vladimir

1:41:351:41:41

Putin was on the TV only recently

saying such people deserve to be

1:41:411:41:45

poisoned, to choke on their own 30

pieces of silver. Secondly, it is

1:41:451:41:51

the agent used, Novichok, developed

in Russia during the Cold War.

1:41:511:42:00

Russia is the only country known to

have developed this type of age. I

1:42:001:42:04

am afraid the evidence is

overwhelming that it was Russia. --

1:42:041:42:08

agent. There is also something in

the smug and sarcastic response that

1:42:081:42:13

we have heard from the Russians that

to me betokens, indicates, their

1:42:131:42:23

fundamental guilt. They want

simultaneously to deny it and yet at

1:42:231:42:27

the same time to glorify it. The

reason they chose this nerve agent

1:42:271:42:31

is to

1:42:311:42:36

is to show it is Russia and show

people who might think in their

1:42:461:42:50

agencies, services, of defecting,

supporting another way of life,

1:42:501:42:52

other values, to show Russia will

take revenge. That is fundamentally

1:42:521:42:55

what this is about. At a time when

Russia is going in the wrong

1:42:551:42:59

direction, becoming more oppressive,

with the regime of Vladimir Putin

1:42:591:43:01

becoming more corrupt, it is more

important for him to slam down on

1:43:011:43:06

potential dissent and defectors.

This is a way to say people look at

1:43:061:43:11

what happens to people who stand up

to our regime.

The organisation for

1:43:111:43:16

the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons,

they have offered to help, to get

1:43:161:43:20

involved. Talk us through that. Will

the British government give them a

1:43:201:43:27

sample of what you have tested in

order for them to make a

1:43:271:43:30

determination?

Yes, of course. I

spoke a couple of days ago to the

1:43:301:43:36

head of the office for the

prohibition of chemical weapons. And

1:43:361:43:39

we will be

1:43:391:43:44

we will be cooperating. That is how

you do it. We will submit a sample

1:43:461:43:50

so they can look at the Novichok and

make their own assessment. It is

1:43:501:43:56

overwhelming evidence.

In the

statement by Theresa May, she said

1:43:561:44:00

high-level talks between the

countries would not happen. How does

1:44:001:44:03

that work? Do you as Foreign

Secretary speak to your counterpart

1:44:031:44:08

in Russia from here on in, our

policy on Russia has not changed.

We

1:44:081:44:15

continue to have bilateral

relationships and engage. There is a

1:44:151:44:23

lot to beware of in how they behave.

But as you may remember, I went to

1:44:231:44:28

Moscow in December because I figured

that, you know, yes, things were

1:44:281:44:32

very difficult with Russia. It was

my job as the Foreign Secretary to

1:44:321:44:37

talk, to do what we could to engage

with the Russians. That will

1:44:371:44:41

continue. Weather, of course, we are

going to see Sergey Lavrov come to

1:44:411:44:47

the United Kingdom, I very much

doubt it. Certainly, he will not be

1:44:471:44:52

invited. Nor are we going to see

high-level representation by this

1:44:521:44:59

country at the World Cup in Moscow.

On that issue...

Things are going to

1:44:591:45:05

be...

May I. Leppings will be

difficult for a while, but we should

1:45:051:45:13

not cut off relations altogether to

be in the dark as they of the Cold

1:45:131:45:17

War it was important for us to work

together. -- In darkest days of the.

1:45:171:45:24

New advice to people possibly

travelling to the World Cup. Could

1:45:241:45:28

you talk to us about that? And those

who fear that regardless of the six

1:45:281:45:32

steps Theresa May has an ounce,

nothing will make a difference to be

1:45:321:45:36

on those two issues. -- announced.

1:45:361:45:42

Firstly, my advice to fans wanting

to go to Russia, look at the Foreign

1:45:421:45:46

Office website, look at what we're

saying about the risks you may face,

1:45:461:45:49

but we're not changing our basic

travel advice. On your question of

1:45:491:45:54

will this make any difference,

believe me, to kick out 23

1:45:541:45:59

undeclared agents is the biggest

step this country has taken since

1:45:591:46:02

the 1980s in our relations with

Moscow. It's a very serious

1:46:021:46:07

statement. It will do Breda

intelligence capabilities in this

1:46:071:46:11

country for decades to come. It's

the right thing to do. It's a

1:46:111:46:15

measured, proportionate but robust

response -- it will do great. There

1:46:151:46:21

are other things, like the Prime

Minister announced in the house,

1:46:211:46:24

that we can do and will do. In

particular, what people want to see

1:46:241:46:28

is some of the very rich people who

are directly associated with

1:46:281:46:31

Vladimir Putin. Is very important,

our Croall is not with Russia and

1:46:311:46:36

the Russian people, but with those

people who are directly associated

1:46:361:46:39

with Vladimir Putin whose wealth can

be attributed to their relationship

1:46:391:46:43

-- our quarrel. It may be the force

of the law agencies, the police,

1:46:431:46:48

will be able to put unexplained

wealth orders on them, to bring them

1:46:481:46:54

to justice for their acts of gross

corruption, for anything that has

1:46:541:47:01

prejudiced the rights, freedom,

property of people in this country.

1:47:011:47:04

Mr Johnson, do you know yet what the

Russians intend to do by way of a

1:47:041:47:10

reaction?

That's a matter for them.

We believe what we have done is

1:47:101:47:18

commensurate with what we have seen

on the streets of Salisbury.

1:47:181:47:26

on the streets of Salisbury. A nerve

agent was used in a European country

1:47:271:47:29

for the first time since the Second

World War, we believe the UK

1:47:291:47:33

government has responded robustly,

as the people of this country would

1:47:331:47:36

expect us to respond. That should

conclude the matter but the Russians

1:47:361:47:41

may think otherwise.

Foreign Secretary, thank you very

1:47:411:47:43

much for your time this morning.

He gave us an update on the

1:47:431:47:48

condition of Sergei Skripal and his

daughter, saying it's now over 11

1:47:481:47:51

days, they are in a critical but

stable condition in hospital.

1:47:511:47:54

Matt is in Gloucestershire

for us this morning,

1:47:541:47:56

and there are signs there that

spring has finally sprung?

1:47:561:48:00

Look at you!

1:48:001:48:04

Good morning, Louise, that's the

general story for the rest of the

1:48:041:48:07

week but good morning from Batsford

Arboretum, next to Moreton in Marsh

1:48:071:48:12

in The Cotswolds, beautiful 60 acre

site of woodland, parkland and of

1:48:121:48:17

course beautiful spring colour, we

thought we would put spring colour

1:48:171:48:20

into an otherwise dull morning. If

you look at the forecast for the

1:48:201:48:24

rest of the week, we've hinted

things will turn colder with a bit

1:48:241:48:28

of snow by the weekend but for the

next few days there will be showers,

1:48:281:48:32

even longer

1:48:321:48:40

even longer spells of rain, some of

the wettest conditions today. The

1:48:401:48:43

big picture, rain band extending

from Northern Ireland to East

1:48:431:48:46

Anglia, to the south of that we will

see the sky is brightening and to

1:48:461:48:50

the north of it, if you start dry

there's a chance of rain. The far

1:48:501:48:54

north of Scotland will have sunny

spells, but most places staying dry,

1:48:541:48:57

rain edging to the south-west of

Scotland through the rush-hour.

1:48:571:49:00

Surface water flooding in Northern

Ireland thanks to the rain for the

1:49:001:49:03

past 24 hours, and lots of puddles

around northern England, north

1:49:031:49:06

Wales, north Midlands and East

Anglia, where the rain continues to

1:49:061:49:09

be heavy and persistent. To the

south of the Midlands, south Wales

1:49:091:49:12

and southern England counties,

things turning dry in the next few

1:49:121:49:15

hours, a few showers in the

south-west. After a murky few hours,

1:49:151:49:19

the skies will brighten, a bit of

sunshine but the showers in the

1:49:191:49:23

south-west could be heavy and

thundery and push north and east.

1:49:231:49:31

Inbetweener, much more sunshine.

Slowly brightening up this afternoon

1:49:321:49:34

in Northern Ireland and north-west

England, and East Anglia, but the

1:49:341:49:37

north-east of England and eastern

Scotland, cloudy and wet in the

1:49:371:49:40

afternoon, snow in the Grampians --

in between. Still mild where you

1:49:401:49:44

have the sunshine. Rain continues to

fall in eastern Scotland and

1:49:441:49:47

north-east England, with some snow

over the hills. A few showers in the

1:49:471:49:51

south, clear skies in between,

during those clearer moments with

1:49:511:49:54

lighter winds we could see mist and

fog forming but by and large should

1:49:541:49:58

be a frost free start to Friday for

just about all. As for Friday,

1:49:581:50:03

Northern Ireland will have a better

day, parts of western Scotland

1:50:031:50:06

seeing brightness but bought used in

Scotland and north-east England,

1:50:061:50:11

still cloudy, strong the gale force

winds continuing with snow in the

1:50:111:50:16

hills. -- but for eastern Scotland.

Temperatures still holding up in the

1:50:161:50:26

south. What you will notice is a big

drop across the country as we go

1:50:261:50:30

into Saturday morning. You will wake

up to a noticeable chill, cold

1:50:301:50:35

easterly wind from the North Sea.

Snow flurries later on in eastern

1:50:351:50:38

parts of England but many on

Saturday will have a dry day with

1:50:381:50:42

occasional glimpses of sunshine but

note those temperatures, barely

1:50:421:50:46

above freezing in many parts. Ad on

the effect of the wind and it will

1:50:461:50:50

feel subzero, and it represents

probably around a 10 degrees drop in

1:50:501:50:54

temperature compared to what some

will see on Friday and the cold

1:50:541:50:58

conditions continue on Sunday with

the risk of snow in southern parts

1:50:581:51:03

of England in particular. Another

update in half an hour. Back to

1:51:031:51:06

Louise and Charlie.

I've been watching you for the last

1:51:061:51:10

2.5 minutes, seriously, most people

cannot Crouch down like that for

1:51:101:51:14

that length of time.

I'm seriously

impressed. It might take me three

1:51:141:51:18

hours to get up now, though, Louise.

I love the fact that you're not

1:51:181:51:22

moving!

1:51:221:51:24

I want to stay with him for a

moment.

1:51:241:51:28

Talking about

1:51:281:51:28

Talking about going to the cinema,

Ben?

Cine world, one of the biggest

1:51:281:51:34

chains, has its results out today.

Profits are up. The third year in a

1:51:341:51:40

row more have gone to the cinema but

is all well in the world of

1:51:401:51:44

blockbusters?

1:51:441:51:47

Cine world, the second largest

operator in the UK with 80, 800

1:51:471:51:53

screens, and we spent £1.2 billion

going to the pictures last year, the

1:51:531:51:57

third increase in a row. Ticket

prices have more than doubled over

1:51:571:52:02

the past decade. Why are we still

willing to spend on that big-screen

1:52:021:52:07

experience? We asked these visitors

at the Savoy Cinema in Stockport.

1:52:071:52:11

This is a lovely cinemas. It's great

to have it here on our doorstep. I

1:52:111:52:16

brought my children here when they

were young.

1:52:161:52:18

Come to the cinema once a week for

the special showings, you know, on

1:52:181:52:23

the Wednesday.

I come about three times a month.

1:52:231:52:26

Some places are expensive but

definitely here I have a family

1:52:261:52:30

membership with my family so it

makes it a lot cheaper, and being a

1:52:301:52:33

student as well you get that student

discount.

1:52:331:52:36

I think going to the cinema is

reasonably priced compared with

1:52:361:52:40

going for a drink, going for a meal.

1:52:401:52:42

The owner of the cinema is Tony

Mundin, and you own a couple of

1:52:421:52:50

others, we are still willing to pay

for that experience even though

1:52:501:52:54

ticket prices have gone up, is that

what you see?

People like the

1:52:541:52:58

big-screen experience, there's no

way to replicate that anywhere else,

1:52:581:53:01

and we are content driven and there

are great films out there.

What

1:53:011:53:06

makes a good season, what will get

people through the doors?

It's a

1:53:061:53:09

mixture, we want a film that appeals

to everyone, a young audience,

1:53:091:53:16

family audience and those looking

for more edgy and challenging films.

1:53:161:53:19

You have to pay muggy to the film

companies to put them on, when you

1:53:191:53:23

decide what you're going to show,

what do you think about?

Variety is

1:53:231:53:27

key, we want to offer something that

will appeal to a wide audience and

1:53:271:53:32

that's important when we make our

decisions about drugrunning.

1:53:321:53:36

Netflix and Amazon Video and other

streaming services, lots of people

1:53:361:53:39

said that would be the demise of

cinemas. -- programming. But it

1:53:391:53:50

hasn't happened?

Netflix are our allies, they're

1:53:501:53:53

getting people to continue watching

films and while they have an

1:53:531:53:56

appetite for films, cinema will play

a part in film watching habits.

When

1:53:561:54:00

you're looking at getting in new

audiences, is it just about its

1:54:001:54:04

films and family films? We have seen

in television it's about getting

1:54:041:54:09

everybody around the television,

does that work in cinemas too?

It

1:54:091:54:14

does, we need the younger audience

into keep cinemas going so we had an

1:54:141:54:18

initiative from the BFI to encourage

that and we want to introduce them

1:54:181:54:22

to films not necessarily on their

radar. There are franchises and what

1:54:221:54:27

they naturally look at but we want

to drive them to see other films.

1:54:271:54:31

Let's talk about ticket prices, it's

a bit of a bugbear, they have more

1:54:311:54:35

than doubled in the past decade, why

is it so expensive?

People want

1:54:351:54:40

cinemas in prime retail locations,

the most expensive land in the

1:54:401:54:46

country, business rates have gone up

and that's why ticket prices have

1:54:461:54:49

gone up.

Food and drink, one of the

biggest things you make money on, is

1:54:491:54:56

it so expensive, is it a way to make

up the ticket price?

It's part of

1:54:561:55:00

the business plan, there's no doubt,

but the great thing is that food and

1:55:001:55:04

drink offering is improving at all

cinemas. We offer craft beers, fine

1:55:041:55:08

wines and home-made cakes. What's

not to love?

Can I all can I not

1:55:081:55:13

bring my own food and ring into the

cinema?

1:55:131:55:16

It's a bit like taking your own

desert to a fine restaurant.

That's

1:55:161:55:20

a good way of looking at it.

I like that. Tony Mundin, the owner

1:55:201:55:26

of three cinemas, nice to see you.

Did you ask that because we know

1:55:261:55:29

someone who does it?

I may have been

known to do that on occasion.

What

1:55:291:55:33

have you taken in?

Nothing smelly,

nothing noisy, those are the two

1:55:331:55:39

rules for cinemas.

Thank you. Yes, I

have taken a sandwich in. Often!

I

1:55:391:55:45

have done it! Good on you!

1:55:451:55:47

Classrooms throughout the UK

are being transformed into newsrooms

1:55:471:55:50

today for the BBC's

School Report News Day.

1:55:501:55:52

To coincide a game has been launched

that challenges young

1:55:521:55:55

people to spot fake news.

1:55:551:55:56

Breakfast's John Maguire

is in Bristol with some

1:55:561:55:58

of the students who helped

to develop the interactive website.

1:55:581:56:04

That is a really good skill, if we

could spot a fake story, that's

1:56:041:56:09

important?

Absolutely essential

because there is so much around

1:56:091:56:15

today. We are at the city Bristol

College, some of these media

1:56:151:56:19

students have been involved in

creating this game in associating

1:56:191:56:25

with our cannons, famous for Wallace

and Gromit. Well and Simon, you

1:56:251:56:28

understand the media because you

have to get out of bed at dark

1:56:281:56:33

o'clock, how does the game work?

You

play as a BBC character, it is his

1:56:331:56:40

first day working at the BBC and you

have to decipher through real news,

1:56:401:56:43

fake news, what to post and what not

to post.

Is it good fun, there's a

1:56:431:56:48

bit of humour?

It's great fun and it

is educational as well, which is

1:56:481:56:52

good.

Let's hope so. Simon, the

whole concept of great news, you

1:56:521:56:58

guys as a generation are more

familiar with social media and

1:56:581:57:02

digital platforms now. How important

an issue do you think it is?

It is

1:57:021:57:06

so important for me because I'm in

the process of making fracture

1:57:061:57:10

reduction so it makes you think

about however then news they has to

1:57:101:57:14

be checked out and making sure

you're not saying the wrong things

1:57:141:57:17

because the things you say can

impact on people's actions.

Thanks

1:57:171:57:21

very much, both. Later we will give

you a run through the game, this

1:57:211:57:25

isn't fake news, this is

1:57:252:00:46

Bye for now.

2:00:462:00:47

Hello, this is Breakfast, with

Louise Minchin and Charlie Stayt.

2:00:532:00:55

It is Russia's crime -

the US joins Britain in blaming

2:00:552:00:58

Moscow for last week's

nerve agent attack.

2:00:582:01:00

At the United Nations,

its ambassador demands action

2:01:002:01:03

after Britain expels 23

Russian officials.

2:01:032:01:04

The Kremlin again

denies any involvement

2:01:042:01:06

in the Salisbury attack.

2:01:062:01:08

But the Foreign Secretary,

Boris Johnson, tells this programme

2:01:082:01:10

the evidence is overwhelming.

2:01:102:01:15

It is a measure of the Russian

recklessness and brutality that they

2:01:152:01:22

are willing to endanger not just the

lives of the Skripals and a police

2:01:222:01:28

officer that anybody who happen to

be in the vicinity in Salisbury.

2:01:282:01:37

Good morning, it's

Thursday, 15th March.

2:01:442:01:45

Also this morning...

2:01:452:01:48

What's in our bottled water?

2:01:482:01:51

The World Health Organization

investigates after tests on major

2:01:512:01:54

brands find nearly all of them

contain tiny particles of plastic.

2:01:542:02:01

Good morning.

2:02:012:02:03

The consumer goods giant Unilever

is set to announce it's

2:02:032:02:06

moving its British headquarters

to the Netherlands.

2:02:062:02:09

It says it wants to simplify the

business.

2:02:092:02:12

The move will be a blow

to Downing Street -

2:02:122:02:14

it's been in talks to

avert the move.

2:02:142:02:16

I'll have the details and look

at the impact on jobs shortly.

2:02:162:02:19

It would be £1.05, I think?

When it

comes to sounds, are you top of the

2:02:192:02:29

class or at the back of the queue? A

messy masterclass for Chelsea,

2:02:292:02:35

knocked out of the Champions League

after losing 3-0 on the night in

2:02:352:02:40

Barcelona. And the weather.

2:02:402:02:46

Barcelona. And the weather. We

cannot hear what he is saying, but

2:02:462:02:48

we can look at the scenery, lovely.

Getting colder towards the end of

2:02:482:02:53

the week. That is pretty much what

he is say. More details in 15

2:02:532:02:57

minutes. Good morning. Back to the

main story this morning.

2:02:572:03:05

The White House has backed Britain's

decision to expel 23 Russian

2:03:052:03:08

diplomats in response to the nerve

agent attack on a former

2:03:082:03:10

spy and his daughter

in Salisbury last week.

2:03:102:03:12

The explusions are just one

of the measures Theresa May

2:03:122:03:15

is putting in place after Russia

missed the deadline

2:03:152:03:17

to explain what had happened.

2:03:172:03:18

The diplomats, who are considered

to be undisclosed spies,

2:03:182:03:21

have seven days to leave.

2:03:212:03:22

All high-level contact

between the UK and Russia

2:03:222:03:30

is also being suspended.

2:03:302:03:31

No minister of member of the royal

family will go to the World Cup.

2:03:312:03:34

And Russian state assets could be

frozen, with new laws to crack

2:03:342:03:37

down on hostile states.

2:03:372:03:41

Earlier Boris Johnson told us the

evidence against Russia was

2:03:412:03:46

overwhelming.

I'm afraid that

evidence is overwhelming that it is

2:03:462:03:50

Russia and there is something, by

the way, in the kind of smug,

2:03:502:03:55

sarcastic response that we have

heard from the Russians that to me

2:03:552:04:00

indicates the fundamental guilt.

They want to simultaneously deny it

2:04:002:04:07

and yet at the same time glory in

it. The reason they have chosen this

2:04:072:04:13

nerve agent is to show it is Russia

and to show people who might think

2:04:132:04:19

in their agencies, in their

services, of defecting or supporting

2:04:192:04:23

another way of life, in believing an

alternative set of values, to show

2:04:232:04:28

that Russia will take revenge, that

is fundamentally what this is about.

2:04:282:04:33

Let's get some reaction

from our political correspondent,

2:04:332:04:35

Eleanor Garnier, in Westminster.

2:04:352:04:39

I am about to cough. Give us your

reaction to what Boris Johnson has

2:04:392:04:43

said.

More strong language from the

Government this morning after what

2:04:432:04:48

Theresa May said yesterday in the

House of Commons. The Government

2:04:482:04:52

believes it has taken decisive

action in the sanctions announced by

2:04:522:04:58

Theresa May yesterday. All designed

to defend Western values, deter

2:04:582:05:02

another attack and punish Russian

aggression. We heard the Foreign

2:05:022:05:06

Secretary talking this morning of

recklessness and brutality. What was

2:05:062:05:12

interesting was that the Prime

Minister won lots of support from

2:05:122:05:18

across the Commons, Labour MPs, the

Lib Dems and the SNP, all lining up

2:05:182:05:22

to support Theresa May's statement

and to condemn the actions of

2:05:222:05:27

Russia. What was interesting was the

Labour leader prompted anger from

2:05:272:05:32

some of his own MPs as he appeared

to question the evidence against

2:05:322:05:36

Russia, that is in complete contrast

to what some of his own MPs believe

2:05:362:05:41

now we have got a string of them

urging him to be stronger in his

2:05:412:05:47

condemnation of Russia. The

Government is prepared, there may be

2:05:472:05:52

further retaliation the Russian

side, but what form that might come

2:05:522:05:57

in, it is clear this confrontation

between the UK and Russia is nowhere

2:05:572:06:02

near towards the end.

For the

moment, thank you. Let us speak to

2:06:022:06:09

Richard Galpin in Moscow. Give us a

sense of the reaction there from

2:06:092:06:16

Russia. Overnight, the

determinations, the UN, among other

2:06:162:06:19

things.

Yes, actually, there is the

briefing note from the foreign

2:06:192:06:26

ministry spokeswoman and she has

already described what Britain has

2:06:262:06:31

done as insane, again, very strong

language. Yesterday, she was really

2:06:312:06:41

very critical of the Foreign Office

in Britain, saying the diplomats

2:06:412:06:46

have no idea about professionalism,

diplomacy and international law and

2:06:462:06:51

that they are simply liars. It is

really upping the ante. Very strong

2:06:512:06:57

words from the Foreign Ministry and

of course in the state-controlled

2:06:572:07:03

Russian TV channels, they are

talking about anti-Russian hysteria

2:07:032:07:06

in Britain.

Richard, for the moment,

thank you. In related news...

2:07:062:07:15

The Government is to significantly

increase funding for its military

2:07:152:07:18

research laboratory at Porton Down.

2:07:182:07:19

Scientists there have already helped

identify the nerve agent used

2:07:192:07:21

in the Salisbury attack.

2:07:212:07:22

Today, in his first major speech

as Defence Secretary,

2:07:222:07:26

Gavin Williamson will announce that

Porton Down will receive

2:07:262:07:29

an additional £48 million and that

thousands of British troops

2:07:292:07:32

are to be vaccinated

against anthrax.

2:07:322:07:36

Evidence of microplastics have

been found in some major

2:07:362:07:38

brands of bottled water,

two of which are

2:07:382:07:40

available in the UK.

2:07:402:07:42

A study by Orb Media, a group

of not-for-profit journalists,

2:07:422:07:45

tested bottles from 11 countries

and found particles of tiny

2:07:452:07:50

fragments of plastics

in almost all of them.

2:07:502:07:54

The World Health Organization now

says it will launch a review

2:07:542:07:57

into the potential impacts

of plastic on human health.

2:07:572:07:59

Scientists say that there is no

evidence yet to suggest

2:07:592:08:01

it is a cause for concern.

2:08:012:08:03

The companies involved say

they stand by the safety

2:08:032:08:05

of their products.

2:08:052:08:09

Earlier on breakfast we spoke to the

coordinator of water and sanitation

2:08:092:08:15

for the World Health Organization

who told us we need to know what

2:08:152:08:19

plastics can do to the human body.

This is bottled water story but it

2:08:192:08:23

is likely to plastics are coming

from many packaged goods and in many

2:08:232:08:27

parts of the environment, they are

influencing us. Now we have more

2:08:272:08:32

analytical techniques, when we test,

we are finding it. The question is

2:08:322:08:35

how it is arriving in terms of

ingestion, exposure, and

2:08:352:08:41

understanding what happens in body.

2:08:412:08:43

The Brexit Secretary, David Davis,

has said he's prepared to accept

2:08:432:08:46

the EU's offer of a shortened

transition period,

2:08:462:08:48

after the UK leaves

the European Union in March, 2019.

2:08:482:08:50

He said he would agree

to a call for the transition

2:08:502:08:53

to end in December, 2020,

if that helped to secure a deal

2:08:532:08:56

at next week's EU summit.

2:08:562:09:01

The use of food and medical supplies

as a weapon of war by the Syrian

2:09:022:09:07

regime has been described as utterly

apparent. In a joint statement to

2:09:072:09:10

mark the seven years of conflict,

the Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson

2:09:102:09:15

and the International Development

Secretary Penny Mordaunt branded the

2:09:152:09:19

war as one of the longest and

bloodiest in recent history --

2:09:192:09:23

utterly abhorrent.

2:09:232:09:26

A phase-out of diesel cars has been

set for 2040. They are demanding a

2:09:262:09:35

new Clean Air Act. The Government

says it will publish its own

2:09:352:09:40

proposals on air pollution later

this year. Here is Roger Harrabin.

2:09:402:09:45

The air in many of Britain's cities

is officially unfit to breathe.

2:09:452:09:48

And the MPs are angry that,

despite a series of court cases,

2:09:482:09:51

the Government hasn't cleaned it up.

2:09:512:09:53

The young are particularly at risk,

and the MPs' report has drawn

2:09:532:09:56

support from UN children's

organisation, UNICEF,

2:09:562:09:58

which says that Britain's children

deserve to breathe clean air.

2:09:582:10:03

The Government aims to end the sales

of diesel and petrol

2:10:032:10:06

only vehicles by 2040,

but the MPs say that is inadequate.

2:10:062:10:09

India will do it ten years earlier.

2:10:092:10:12

They say government must work

with local councils to stop

2:10:122:10:15

pollution-related deaths.

2:10:152:10:16

This really needs to be stamped out.

2:10:162:10:17

We need to improve it.

2:10:172:10:21

And that's why the whole report

talked about bringing government,

2:10:212:10:26

local authorities together,

so we can work across,

2:10:262:10:28

not just here in London,

but across the whole country.

2:10:282:10:31

The Government says it's looking

beyond cars to smokeless fuel

2:10:312:10:34

and wood stoves in its strategy,

due later in the year.

2:10:342:10:37

Roger Harrabin, BBC News.

2:10:372:10:42

In the last half an hour, Unilever

has confirmed it has chosen

2:10:422:10:49

Rotterdam over London for its

corporate headquarters. Take us

2:10:492:10:52

through it, there was an

announcement, more detail.

2:10:522:10:56

Information we were waiting for this

morning. A significant announcement,

2:10:562:11:01

Unilever is huge, if you will

certainly know its brands,

2:11:012:11:07

everything from Marmite, personal,

all the brands we use, Dove, and it

2:11:072:11:14

currently has headquarters in London

and Rotterdam, but now it is going

2:11:142:11:19

to consolidate into one in

Rotterdam. It is significant not

2:11:192:11:22

because of jobs, they are keen to

stress we will not see thousands of

2:11:222:11:26

jobs moved as a result, but it is

significant because of the debate

2:11:262:11:31

around Brexit. The company is very

keen to point out it is not based on

2:11:312:11:36

Brexit, it is a decision based on

simplifying the business. This time

2:11:362:11:39

last year it was subject to a

takeover offer from an American firm

2:11:392:11:45

Kraft and it wanted to get rid of

the offer and it says by simplifying

2:11:452:11:48

the business it is in a better

position to defend itself.

What

2:11:482:11:52

about jobs?

They employ 7500 staff

in the UK. The company says those

2:11:522:11:57

jobs will not be moving to

Rotterdam. It will consolidate the

2:11:572:12:01

business here when it does research

and development so those jobs will

2:12:012:12:05

remain here, this is moving their

HQ, so that might mean ten jobs go

2:12:052:12:10

overseas. We have had a statement

from the Government, they have been

2:12:102:12:13

in talks with Unilever about keeping

the base here, they say Unilever has

2:12:132:12:22

shown its long-term commitment to

the UK by leaving the 7500 jobs

2:12:222:12:24

here, £1 billion every year on

investment. The company says it is

2:12:242:12:26

not connected to the UK's departure

from the EU but given the political

2:12:262:12:32

sensitivity around Brexit, many

people will see the headline and

2:12:322:12:35

expect it to be Brexit, the firm

says it is not.

Many of you getting

2:12:352:12:40

in touch about this next story,

about working on a free trial shift.

2:12:402:12:49

It's not unusual for an employer

to ask to see you in action

2:12:492:12:52

for a few hours before they offer

you the job.

2:12:522:12:55

But when does that cross the line

and become exploitation?

2:12:552:12:57

The Trade Union Unite says

it's a growing issue

2:12:572:12:59

and that they are contacted

between 15 to 20 times a week

2:12:592:13:02

from people who have done

unpaid trial shifts.

2:13:022:13:04

Tomorrow, an MP is hoping

to push a bill through

2:13:042:13:07

Parliament which would ban

these shifts completely.

2:13:072:13:08

Here's our business and consumer

correspondent, Nina Warhurst.

2:13:082:13:11

If you cook a steak,

pull a pint, load a dishwasher,

2:13:112:13:13

when is a trial not a trial?

2:13:132:13:18

At this Edinburgh pub,

staff are always paid

2:13:182:13:23

for their labour, but when Megan

worked a free shift

2:13:232:13:28

for a restaurant, she says

she effectively was staff,

2:13:282:13:31

the same as at a creche,

where at times she was left

2:13:312:13:34

alone with children.

2:13:342:13:35

On both occasions, hard

work for more than five

2:13:352:13:37

hours for no money.

2:13:372:13:38

I just feel like I was taken

advantage of because I was obviously

2:13:382:13:42

a lot younger and I think they just

saw someone that wasn't

2:13:422:13:44

going to say anything.

2:13:442:13:45

Why didn't you say, "Hang on,

I've worked a shift here,

2:13:452:13:49

I should be paid"?

2:13:492:13:50

They did say on both occasions

if you didn't go ahead

2:13:502:13:54

with the unpaid shift,

then the application wouldn't

2:13:542:13:56

go any further.

2:13:562:13:57

I felt I just had to do it.

2:13:572:13:59

Some MPs say the law must change.

2:13:592:14:02

That unpaid shifts have exploited

workers for too long.

2:14:022:14:04

And tomorrow's bill could make

that practice illegal.

2:14:042:14:07

People are being asked to try out

for a job that doesn't even exist,

2:14:072:14:10

companies are trying to cover staff

absences in other

2:14:102:14:13

parts of the business.

2:14:132:14:18

So this is about ending that

exploitation, empowering applicants

2:14:182:14:25

and making sure when people are

going for a job, there is dignity

2:14:252:14:29

right from the application process

through to starting the job

2:14:292:14:31

in the first place.

2:14:312:14:32

There's nothing illegal

about being asked to work a trial

2:14:322:14:35

shift, as long as it truly

is a trial, and the difficulty comes

2:14:352:14:38

if you need to prove you crossed

that line into working

2:14:382:14:41

as an employee.

2:14:412:14:43

Lots of employers argue that trial

shifts are the most effective way

2:14:432:14:45

of finding out whether a job

is the right fit for both parties.

2:14:452:14:51

Smaller businesses in particular

have to be careful not

2:14:512:14:53

to overspend on recruitment.

2:14:532:14:56

Small businesses can sometimes be

reticent about hiring or even

2:14:562:14:59

looking to expand headcount

when the work is there

2:14:592:15:01

because they worry about making

the wrong decision.

2:15:012:15:04

So the more we can do

to make sure we're hiring

2:15:042:15:08

the right people, the better.

2:15:082:15:09

You just need to be very careful

that that doesn't cross

2:15:092:15:12

into what's exploitative.

2:15:122:15:14

And here it gets tricky,

because unpaid work is theoretically

2:15:142:15:19

voluntary, does that mean legally

it is hard to prove that

2:15:192:15:21

you should be paid?

2:15:212:15:26

There's a perception that

legally this is a grey

2:15:262:15:28

area, is it a grey area?

2:15:282:15:32

What is illegal is to ask someone

to come in, give up their time,

2:15:322:15:35

provide services, provide revenue

potentially for an employer and not

2:15:352:15:38

pay them at least the minimum wage

if they're under 25,

2:15:382:15:40

or the national living wage

if they're 25 and above.

2:15:402:15:43

As far as you're concerned

there isn't a grey area?

2:15:432:15:45

Exactly, I wouldn't say

there is a grey area,

2:15:452:15:47

it's as simple as that.

2:15:472:15:51

But when something's culturally

ingrained it is hard to be

2:15:512:15:56

the first to make a change,

and tomorrow Parliament will decide

2:15:562:16:00

whether to deliver a shift

in the law that would force that

2:16:002:16:03

change for good.

2:16:032:16:09

A really interesting subject. A lot

of people have been in touch.

2:16:092:16:12

Nina Warhurst joins us now.

2:16:122:16:15

Vicky says her daughter did a full

six-hour trial shift as an Italian

2:16:152:16:19

restaurant and they didn't even call

her back. She won't ever eat The

2:16:192:16:22

Hague. Louise says she did an

underpaid trial at a supermarket,

2:16:222:16:29

and was told there wasn't a position

available. She was on a waiting list

2:16:292:16:32

and no job materialised within a

year. It is commonplace. Is there a

2:16:322:16:38

line between doing a trial shift

where they are genuinely looking at

2:16:382:16:41

you and doing work?

It's so hard to

prove because the supermarket could

2:16:412:16:45

say, we thought there was a job but

it didn't come up and it was filled

2:16:452:16:48

by somebody else. It's tricky to

proved you have been used to fill a

2:16:482:16:52

gap in the roster. The government

has said it is illegal for extensive

2:16:522:16:59

periods of time when it has no job

at the end of it, but what is an

2:16:592:17:05

excessive period of time? Five

hours, 12 hours, one week, one

2:17:052:17:10

month? We spoke to people who did

four weeks at a cafe and got no

2:17:102:17:14

payment and there was no job at the

end of it. We have lots of people we

2:17:142:17:20

have spoken to come you don't be

daunted stick out your neck and say

2:17:202:17:23

it's not right because you feel

vulnerable. You want the job and

2:17:232:17:27

think it will jeopardise your

chances of getting the role if you

2:17:272:17:30

complain.

Is it unreasonable for

somebody to say, I want to see how

2:17:302:17:34

you operate and if you are OK with

everything, is that unfair?

This is

2:17:342:17:41

what the Federation of Small

Businesses are saying. You could pay

2:17:412:17:44

them anyway, but with some small

businesses, their profit margins are

2:17:442:17:48

tiny and perhaps they can't afford

to outlay that amount of money to

2:17:482:17:53

trial every person who comes through

the doors. If you're somebody who

2:17:532:17:57

has been asked to do a trial shift,

any sort of unpaid work, the advice

2:17:572:18:00

is to make sure you stipulate in

advance exactly how long the trials

2:18:002:18:04

of Pool B, and if you are not

comfortable, say something.

Miranda

2:18:042:18:09

says, any employer who says you have

to do a free trial shift if you want

2:18:092:18:13

the job, is showing they will be a

bad employer when you get the job.

2:18:132:18:16

They will always exploited from then

on. Not a great start.

2:18:162:18:23

Matt is in Gloucesterhire with

a look at this morning's weather.

2:18:232:18:27

It's so lovely that he says he will

sing later on.

Charlie is not making

2:18:272:18:34

me do anything! We are just outside

Moreton in Marsh in the Cotswolds.

2:18:342:18:44

It's an atmospheric morning, the

mist has descended. It's damp, but

2:18:442:18:49

the wild flowers, spring flowers,

enduring boosted temperatures and

2:18:492:18:51

rain.

Taking a look at the forecast

for the rest of the week, some

2:18:512:18:56

colder weather on the way by the

time we hit the weekend, but to get

2:18:562:18:59

there we

2:18:592:18:59

time we hit the weekend, but to get

there we have a lot of wet weather

2:18:592:19:01

to come, particularly today. Some of

the heaviest of the rain extends

2:19:012:19:05

across East Anglia and the Midlands,

parts of Wales and Northern Ireland.

2:19:052:19:10

It will continue to edge northwards.

I think the rest of the rush-hour

2:19:102:19:15

will stay dry with some sunshine to

the north but already starting to

2:19:152:19:18

rain towards the south-west. Lots of

surface water around in Northern

2:19:182:19:22

Ireland after 24 hours of rain and

big puddles if you are on your Juri

2:19:222:19:26

Ide across northern England, Wales,

the Midlands and East Anglia. The

2:19:262:19:30

further south ago, the raid is

easing off and sunshine is breaking

2:19:302:19:34

out in Devon and Cornwall. But we

will see sunshine developed in the

2:19:342:19:37

coming hours and during day.

Breitling skies across the South,

2:19:372:19:45

sunshine and

2:19:452:19:45

Breitling skies across the South,

sunshine and lighter winds. We will

2:19:452:19:47

see thunderstorms developing the far

south-west of the country. East

2:19:472:19:50

Anglia and northern England, most of

northern England and Ireland should

2:19:502:19:55

brighten up, most of England's

staying cloudy and wet. It will turn

2:19:552:20:00

a bit wintry over the hills.

Temperatures today ranging from 6

2:20:002:20:04

degrees in Aberdeen to 12 in

Plymouth. Feeling pleasant enough

2:20:042:20:07

for the time of year when the sun is

out but it will change over the next

2:20:072:20:12

few days. Into tonight, we still

have mild weather and outbreaks of

2:20:122:20:16

rain across eastern Scotland and

snow over the hills. Further rain

2:20:162:20:20

towards the north-east of England.

Head of that, many of us dry spells

2:20:202:20:24

and a few showers across the South

and largely frost free into tomorrow

2:20:242:20:31

morning. The greater chance of frost

across the far north of Scotland. It

2:20:312:20:34

could be misty and murky to start

Friday morning. Wet and windy, as it

2:20:342:20:37

will be today across parts of

Scotland and northern England,

2:20:372:20:40

touching gale force at times. Snow

over the hills. Away from that,

2:20:402:20:45

brighter skies developing. The best

of the sunshine will be in the south

2:20:452:20:48

but more showers than we will see

this afternoon and thunderstorms

2:20:482:20:52

possible. Temperatures still getting

into double figures, if not below

2:20:522:20:56

teens for one or two. The big change

on Friday night into Saturday, where

2:20:562:21:01

you will wake up to a cold easterly

wind, a real bite to it. Many places

2:21:012:21:09

dry, a bit of cloud and sunshine.

Snow flurries arriving across

2:21:092:21:13

eastern England. Not disruptive at

this stage, but look at the

2:21:132:21:18

temperatures, across the UK, it's

only a few degrees above freezing,

2:21:182:21:22

but a real wind-chill. Snowflakes on

Saturday night into Sunday,

2:21:222:21:27

particularly across England and

Wales. I will have another update in

2:21:272:21:30

half an hour.

2:21:302:21:33

The UN overnight, the US giving the

UK its full backing saying the nerve

2:21:382:21:46

agent attack is Russia's faltering.

2:21:462:21:49

Let's speak now to the former

National Security Advisor,

2:21:492:21:51

Lord Ricketts.

2:21:512:21:52

We have spoken to Boris Johnson on

the programme who described it as

2:21:522:21:57

reckless and brutal, this attack. It

has heightened the language, but

2:21:572:22:01

what difference does it make in the

real world?

In the UK we have taken

2:22:012:22:05

a first set of measures, I thought

it was a good, strong and clear set

2:22:052:22:09

of measures from the Prime Minister

yesterday. The key thing now is, can

2:22:092:22:13

we extend that and have allies and

friends around the world recognise

2:22:132:22:17

it's not just a localised Russia and

UK problem, it's a problem for all

2:22:172:22:22

countries, that Russia should choose

to use chemical weapons in a country

2:22:222:22:26

town in England, is a national

security issue for other countries.

2:22:262:22:30

I thought Nicky Hayley, US

ambassador to the Security Council

2:22:302:22:36

nailed it last night, and made it

clear. I think the Russians have

2:22:362:22:43

miscalculated this. They might have

thought they could keep at a local

2:22:432:22:47

issue, but it is international and

global. They have been called out

2:22:472:22:51

and the next stage is strengthened

international support.

Boris Johnson

2:22:512:22:55

said he was heartened by the scope

of support. You think the words are

2:22:552:22:59

a good sign. What about action? Is

that necessary as well?

Of course.

2:22:592:23:04

We have taken action, not just

expulsions, but going after an awful

2:23:042:23:09

lot of Russian money in London, some

of it from people with pretty bad

2:23:092:23:13

track records. That should worry the

Russians. The question is, what more

2:23:132:23:18

can we do overtime? Friends and

allies will want to look at the

2:23:182:23:22

evidence we present, but in Nato, we

have a summit coming up in a couple

2:23:222:23:26

of months and I think people will

have to calculate, can we go on

2:23:262:23:30

dealing with Russia as if it's a

serious and responsible country, if

2:23:302:23:34

it behaves like this? And if not,

what are the consequences in terms

2:23:342:23:39

of the Nato approach to handling

Russia.

You have so much expertise

2:23:392:23:43

in all of this, what about

consequences from the Russian point

2:23:432:23:46

of view, because they are not likely

to not retaliate.

Yes, we are seeing

2:23:462:23:53

an angry, dismissive and sarcastic

reaction from the Russians who will

2:23:532:23:57

no doubt retaliate by expelling some

British diplomats from Moscow. But I

2:23:572:24:02

think they have miscalculated. I

think the tone we are hearing from

2:24:022:24:06

Moscow, as your correspondence,

sounds defensive. I think they have

2:24:062:24:10

been caught on the hop by the

strength of international reaction

2:24:102:24:13

to this and the recognition this is

far beyond what is acceptable not

2:24:132:24:17

just to the UK but countries. They

will throw all their rhetoric and

2:24:172:24:21

social media action against it, but

I think underlying it, they have

2:24:212:24:27

made a major miscalculation.

That's

very interesting. What went wrong,

2:24:272:24:31

is it the fact that we know what it

is, we seem to know this was Russia?

2:24:312:24:38

Well, yes, first of all, they have

done something with a chemical agent

2:24:382:24:42

which leaves pretty clear

fingerprints. We are told it's

2:24:422:24:46

Russians that invented this terrible

substance. We know it's former

2:24:462:24:50

Russian citizen it has been used

against. All the circumstantial

2:24:502:24:55

evidence is very strong. Whether the

people who thought it was a great

2:24:552:24:58

idea to do this calculated it would

get out in this way, I don't know.

2:24:582:25:02

Maybe they calculated it would send

a signal that Russia would reach out

2:25:022:25:06

after traitors wherever they are,

but I think it has backfired and I

2:25:062:25:09

think there will be a strong

international reaction to this. I

2:25:092:25:12

think over time countries will

recognise that they can't go on

2:25:122:25:21

Russia the way they did before and

hopefully therefore Russia will not

2:25:212:25:23

do this again and we can go back to

working with Russia as a serious and

2:25:232:25:27

responsible member of the United

Nations.

From what you say, it could

2:25:272:25:29

lead to a de-escalation of what has

happened.

I think we have to strap

2:25:292:25:34

in for a bumpy ride in the next few

months, because the whole Russian

2:25:342:25:37

approach will be truculent and

angry, of course. President Putin

2:25:372:25:41

has an election coming up next week.

Perhaps that isn't relevant but over

2:25:412:25:45

time the Russians have to work out,

do they want to be treated as a

2:25:452:25:49

serious member of the UN Security

Council and G20 group of countries?

2:25:492:25:54

In which case I think they have to

behave differently. We have to now

2:25:542:25:57

go on from this and call out

manipulation of our media, social

2:25:572:26:02

media, the role of Russian

television, for example and we have

2:26:022:26:05

to be alert to the Russians trying

to manipulate our public opinion.

2:26:052:26:11

Fascinating to hear your insight,

Lord Rickett 's, former National

2:26:112:26:14

Security Adviser. And it is kind of

connected to the next story. The

2:26:142:26:20

problem is media has generally, and

is included, in determining what

2:26:202:26:24

stories are fake, and things that

are true and false and how they

2:26:242:26:28

played with in the media.

2:26:282:26:29

As part of the BBC's annual School

Report Breakfast's John Maguire

2:26:292:26:32

is looking at an interactive game

that challenges young people to spot

2:26:322:26:35

what is real and what is false.

2:26:352:26:37

Good morning.

Good morning to you

both. There couldn't be a better

2:26:372:26:43

time to talk about this on the BBC

School report today. 30,000 students

2:26:432:26:48

will take part today, including

students up to the age of 18 for the

2:26:482:26:52

first time. We are at Bristol

College to talk two a couple of

2:26:522:26:58

students who have been involved in

the creation of the game in

2:26:582:27:05

coordination with Aardman.

You go

through step-by-step to decide what

2:27:052:27:10

to post and what not to. You have

been bombarded by e-mails. It's your

2:27:102:27:14

first day so you have to make a good

impression.

You are acting as a BBC

2:27:142:27:18

reporter.

Exactly. You want to

improve your potential as you

2:27:182:27:22

progress through the game.

It's

online, everybody can have a go and

2:27:222:27:27

access it through the BBC website.

Georgia, this whole issue of fake

2:27:272:27:31

news. You are a media student so how

aware of it are you at how troubling

2:27:312:27:36

do you find it?

We are making

manufacturing products as part of

2:27:362:27:44

our project and we have to triple

and quadruple checked all our

2:27:442:27:47

sources. If we put out fake news and

information, it makes other people

2:27:472:27:51

liable. It can create bad problems

for other people if we don't check.

2:27:512:28:00

It warms my heart to hear young

people say they will check their

2:28:002:28:05

facts quadruple. Admirable stuff.

More from Slater after the local

2:28:052:28:08

news.

2:28:082:28:09

Bye for now.

2:31:282:31:31

Hello, this is Breakfast,

with Louise Minchin

2:31:332:31:35

and Charlie Stayt.

2:31:352:31:38

The White House has backed Britain's

decision to expel 23 Russian

2:31:382:31:46

diplomats in response to the nerve

agent attack on a former

2:31:462:31:49

spy and his daughter

in Salisbury 11 days ago.

2:31:492:31:51

The explusions are just one

of the measures Theresa May

2:31:512:31:54

is putting in place after Russia

missed the deadline

2:31:542:31:56

to explain what happened.

2:31:562:31:57

She says there is "no

alternative conclusion" other

2:31:572:31:59

than to believe they are to blame.

2:31:592:32:01

Earlier the Foreign Secretary,

Boris Johnson, told this programme

2:32:012:32:03

that Russia's reaction

proves their guilt.

2:32:032:32:09

I'm afraid the evidence is

overwhelming that it is Russia.

2:32:092:32:12

There is something, by the way, in

the kind of smoke, sarcastic

2:32:122:32:19

response that we've heard from the

Russians that, to me, indicate their

2:32:192:32:26

fundamental guilt. They want to

simultaneously denying it and yet at

2:32:262:32:31

the same time glory in it. The

reason they have chosen this nerve

2:32:312:32:35

agent is to show that it is Russia

and to show people who might think

2:32:352:32:40

in their agencies, who might think

in their services, of defecting or

2:32:402:32:44

supporting another way of life,

believing in an alternative set of

2:32:442:32:49

values, to show that Russia will

take revenge. That is fundamentally

2:32:492:32:52

what this is all about.

2:32:522:32:55

The Government is to significantly

increase funding for its military

2:32:552:32:57

research laboratory at Porton Down.

2:32:572:32:59

Scientists there have already helped

identify the nerve agent used

2:32:592:33:01

in the Salisbury attack.

2:33:012:33:05

Today, in his first major speech

as Defence Secretary,

2:33:052:33:07

Gavin Williamson will announce that

Porton Down will receive

2:33:072:33:11

an additional £48 million,

and that thousands of British troops

2:33:112:33:14

are to be vaccinated

against anthrax.

2:33:142:33:18

Evidence of Micro plastics have been

found in some major brands of

2:33:182:33:21

bottled water, two of which are

available here in the UK. A study by

2:33:212:33:28

a group of not-for-profit

journalists tested bottles from 11

2:33:282:33:32

countries and found particles of

tiny fragments of plastics in almost

2:33:322:33:35

all of them. The World Health

Organization now says it will launch

2:33:352:33:39

a review into the potential impact

of plastic on human health.

2:33:392:33:43

Scientists say there is no evidence

yet to suggest it is a cause for

2:33:432:33:47

concern. The companies involved say

they stand by the

2:33:472:33:51

safety of their products. Ministers

have been called on to introduce a

2:33:512:33:55

faster phase-out of petrol and

diesel cars set for 2040. MPs have

2:33:552:33:59

also demanded a new clean air act

and say the motor industry should

2:33:592:34:03

finance a clean air fund. The

Government says it will publish its

2:34:032:34:07

own proposals on air pollution later

in the year.

2:34:072:34:10

In the last hour, Unilever has

confirmed it has chosen

2:34:102:34:12

Rotterdam over London

for its corporate headquarters.

2:34:122:34:20

The firm, which makes

brands including Persil,

2:34:212:34:25

Dove and Marmite,

2:34:252:34:29

Rejected the decision that -- the

claim that Brexit was behind the

2:34:292:34:35

decision.

2:34:352:34:40

So, the news that pennies could be

scrapped after a review, it was a

2:34:402:34:46

real thing.

Yes, lots of people were upset about

2:34:462:34:48

it, but the good news is that they

are set to stay, wherever you have

2:34:482:34:51

them, in your pocket, your wallet,

down your sofa, after a spokesman

2:34:512:34:55

said there was no plan to phase out

1p coins.

2:34:552:35:01

I quite like those notes as well!

You don't see them very often!

2:35:012:35:08

Coming up later, we will have a

special treat, Don Maclean will be

2:35:082:35:11

here.

With his guitar, he is going to sing

2:35:112:35:14

for us live.

If he?!

2:35:142:35:18

We believe so, we very much hope so.

Let's

2:35:182:35:21

hope he can be persuaded. We are

talking about Chelsea going out of

2:35:212:35:26

the Champions League last night, a

tough ask to take on Barcelona who

2:35:262:35:29

are on brilliant form in La Liga, in

Europe, copper Delray finalists as

2:35:292:35:33

well. It was always going to be a

tough ask, 3-0 on the night. Shall

2:35:332:35:38

we see the goals again?

2:35:382:35:41

Nine Messi's first goal, both goals

embarrassing for Thibaut Courtois

2:35:442:35:49

because they were both nutmegs

through the legs of the Chelsea

2:35:492:35:52

keeper. Messi the third as well,

Lionel Messi was the hero on the

2:35:522:36:01

night.

2:36:012:36:09

night. City and Liverpool are the

only side left in the quarterfinals.

2:36:092:36:13

When he sees the goalkeeper's legs

in a certain position, does he

2:36:162:36:21

calculate that?

I think brilliant athletes just have

2:36:212:36:24

this sixth sense, spatial awareness,

that is what the talent is, I don't

2:36:242:36:28

think he is even aware of what he's

doing when it happens. But Chelsea

2:36:282:36:32

out, let's hear from Antonio Conte.

2:36:322:36:36

Our start was terrible, to concede

a goal after only two minutes.

2:36:362:36:42

But after this, we tried

to play football.

2:36:422:36:48

For a long time, we dominated the

game and created chances to score.

2:36:482:36:54

The Premier League's joint top

scorer Harry Kane won't be named

2:36:542:36:59

in Gareth Southgate's England

squad for two friendlies,

2:36:592:37:02

which is announced later today.

2:37:022:37:07

That's after it was confirmed he'll

be out until next month

2:37:072:37:09

with ankle ligament damage.

2:37:092:37:10

The Tottenham striker now faces

a battle to be fit for England

2:37:102:37:13

at the summer's World Cup in Russia.

2:37:132:37:15

He may return to full training

just seven weeks before

2:37:152:37:17

the tournament starts.

2:37:172:37:18

Arsenal have won the Continental Cup

for a record fifth time.

2:37:182:37:21

They beat favourites for the title

Manchester City 1-0 last night.

2:37:212:37:25

Arsenal's Jordan Nobbs said

it "feels great to win

2:37:252:37:29

it again, and again,

and again, and again!

2:37:292:37:31

Fifth time feels as

good as the first."

2:37:312:37:33

Mark Hughes has been confirmed

as Southampton's new manager

2:37:332:37:35

until the end of the season.

2:37:352:37:36

The former Saints player was sacked

by Stoke City in January,

2:37:362:37:40

but now takes charge on the south

coast with Southampton currently

2:37:402:37:43

17th, one place and one point

above the relegation zone.

2:37:432:37:50

Some bad news for the Winter

Paralympics team, Great Britain's

2:37:502:37:55

wheelchair curlers out in Pyongyang

have lost and will not go through.

2:37:552:38:04

Bad news from the Winter

Paralympics?

2:38:042:38:12

Yes, I think the miserable weather

here in Pyeongchang probably

2:38:122:38:15

reflects the mood in the British

wheelchair curling camp today. They

2:38:152:38:18

were up against the host nation this

morning, which was a must win match

2:38:182:38:23

for both teams. A very tight game

going down to the final end but it

2:38:232:38:28

was Korea that were victorious,

Great Britain lost the game which

2:38:282:38:31

meant Korea progress to the play-off

stages along with Canada and China,

2:38:312:38:35

which meant there was just one place

left in the play-offs and all Great

2:38:352:38:39

Britain could do was watch and wait.

They needed Norway to lose against

2:38:392:38:48

Slovakia in what was another

nail-biting match, it went to an

2:38:482:38:49

extra end, they even needed to

measure to see whose stone was

2:38:492:38:52

closer but in the end it was Norway

who were victorious, which means

2:38:522:38:56

Great Britain will not progress to

the medal play-offs, they will not

2:38:562:38:59

win a medal here at these Paralympic

Games. It has been a disappointing

2:38:592:39:03

day for the curlers down by the

coast.

2:39:032:39:07

Bad news, then. Thank you for

bringing us up to date from

2:39:072:39:09

Pyeongchang.

2:39:092:39:11

It's day three of the Cheltenham

Festival, but it'll be missing one

2:39:112:39:14

racing's biggest stars.

2:39:142:39:15

That's after a serious injury

to jockey Ruby Walsh yesterday.

2:39:152:39:18

He went to hospital with a suspected

broken leg when he fell

2:39:182:39:21

at the second last fence.

2:39:212:39:26

He broke the same leg four months

ago and had only just

2:39:262:39:29

made his return to racing.

2:39:292:39:30

Now he'll miss the rest

of the Festival, including

2:39:302:39:32

Friday's Gold Cup.

2:39:322:39:33

But on a difficult day

for the Walsh family,

2:39:332:39:35

there was some success

for Ruby's sister Katy.

2:39:352:39:37

She won on board the 25-1

shot Relegate in the

2:39:372:39:40

final race of the day.

2:39:402:39:41

The big race of the day, though,

was the Queen Mother Chase.

2:39:412:39:47

It was billed as a straight fight

between the British-trained Altior

2:39:472:39:49

and Irish horse Douvan.

2:39:492:39:51

But after Douvan fell

with four fences to jump,

2:39:512:39:53

the evens favourite Altior,

ridden by Nico de Boinville,

2:39:532:39:55

easily came home in the end.

2:39:552:39:57

Finally, what do you call

your new baby if you're

2:39:572:40:00

the reigning Masters Champion?

2:40:002:40:04

We have had lots of suggestions this

morning. Sergio Garcia won the green

2:40:042:40:08

jacket almost this time last year,

just a couple of weeks to go until

2:40:082:40:15

the Masters, and called his baby

daughter Azalea because of the

2:40:152:40:18

flowers at Augusta, they are the

prominent flowers. The picture you

2:40:182:40:22

get it be think of the Augusta

National is those beautiful green

2:40:222:40:24

fairways, the Mirror pond some of

the Little bridge and the Azaleas

2:40:242:40:29

around the back, and the 13th hole

as well which was a pivotal role for

2:40:292:40:33

him when he won the Masters last

year.

2:40:332:40:35

And it is a nice name, it works. It

is lovely, Azalea Garcia has a

2:40:352:40:40

lovely ring to it.

2:40:402:40:43

We also have some guests on the sofa

this morning, the ice-skating 88

2:40:432:40:48

dubbed the bionic Torvill and Dean,

they have defied extraordinary odds

2:40:482:40:53

to reach this year's Winter

Olympics.

2:40:532:40:57

A career threatening injury left

Nick Buckland and Penny Coombs'

2:40:572:41:04

dreams of glory in tatters but grit

and as I kept their hopes alive. We

2:41:042:41:09

will look at what they did out on

the ice while we chat to them.

2:41:092:41:15

Thank you so much for coming to meet

us, last time I met you was that he

2:41:152:41:23

had skated in the Olympics, after 20

months of rehabilitation after you

2:41:232:41:28

shattered your knee, Penny, into

eight pieces? So making it to the

2:41:282:41:33

Olympics was a massive achievement,

wasn't it?

Definitely, I was so

2:41:332:41:38

lucky to get there after the time

that we had in preparation but I

2:41:382:41:42

just want to say thank you to

everyone who reached out and sent me

2:41:422:41:46

a message, the result was not

exactly what I hoped for but having

2:41:462:41:49

stepped away from the games and

checked my social media, the influx

2:41:492:41:54

of messages from children, adults,

everybody saying I inspired them, it

2:41:542:41:58

made my games.

11th with the

position you came overall, you were

2:41:582:42:01

hoping to be in the top ten but the

scores were really tough out there

2:42:012:42:06

in South Korea, lots of couples we

spoke to said no-one was anywhere

2:42:062:42:10

near their season 's best until the

final few, which were absolutely

2:42:102:42:15

outstanding performances. But you

had dreams of the podium, hadn't

2:42:152:42:19

you, so you were disappointed?

Yes,

I got off the ice and went and found

2:42:192:42:24

my mum and gave her a hug and I

cried because I think it was just an

2:42:242:42:28

emotional moment, after everything

we had been through in those 20

2:42:282:42:34

months, to envision that moment,

your Olympic moment, of what it will

2:42:342:42:37

be like, to feel so let down, coming

to the worst-case scenario, it was

2:42:372:42:46

hard. But I had a great experience,

I felt what we did we did really

2:42:462:42:50

well.

We inspired so many people and

that is what we did not expect to

2:42:502:42:54

take away from the games, it sits

really well with us.

Just watching

2:42:542:42:59

you there, the pressure off course

on any athlete at the Olympics is

2:42:592:43:06

immense but there must be something

special in that you are in it

2:43:062:43:10

together?

Absolutely, we spend a lot

of time together, I would not have

2:43:102:43:13

it any other way so that makes it a

lot easier. We train together, live

2:43:132:43:18

together, at the end of the day we

go out on the ice together and that

2:43:182:43:23

is something special.

When I was

looking at those images, you were

2:43:232:43:27

talking about, which neither was it?

My right knee.

When you go out on

2:43:272:43:33

the ice, you can tell us now because

it is immediately after the

2:43:332:43:38

Olympics, but is there a bit of your

head that is thinking, is it OK? I

2:43:382:43:42

have landed this one, it is OK, I

have got through this moment, is

2:43:422:43:46

there a bit be thinking like that or

do you have to blanket at?

2:43:462:43:49

Because you did the lift in the

routine which smashed uni-?!

Yes! To

2:43:492:43:56

be honest, my knee can be

temperament and I don't know how it

2:43:562:43:59

will be in competition and the day

of the free dance was not a good day

2:43:592:44:02

and I was not feeling great and I

was on the warm up five minutes

2:44:022:44:08

before we skated and I were a little

brace, a support, not to do anything

2:44:082:44:13

but just if I fall I will hit that

first rather than my knee.

So when

2:44:132:44:19

you say it was not good, are you

physically in pain?

Yes, I was in

2:44:192:44:25

pain but my physiotherapist was

there as I got off the ice, she

2:44:252:44:28

adjusted it and, thank God, when I

got out there it did not bother me

2:44:282:44:32

at all. It definitely that day I was

in a bit of pain.

You can tell with

2:44:322:44:36

her face. I was like, oh, no! But

when we went out there we were fine.

2:44:362:44:44

Who deals burst with the nerves?

Penny, she is a rock star. We can't

2:44:442:44:50

each other down. Throughout training

one of us has a good day, one of us

2:44:502:44:54

has a bad day, we pinged off each

other.

It is the World Championships

2:44:542:45:03

in seven days' time but you have

said you will not go, the knee is

2:45:032:45:06

not up to it after everything you

put it through to get to the

2:45:062:45:09

Olympics, so what happens next? Next

Olympics four years away, still have

2:45:092:45:13

to find out whether you have money

to get there if you choose to do

2:45:132:45:17

that because UK Sport does not make

its decisions on that for a while

2:45:172:45:21

yet, so what's next, are you going

to keep skating and competing?

Yes,

2:45:212:45:27

definitely keep skating. In the

meantime, I would like to go on

2:45:272:45:32

Strictly Come Dancing against this

guy!

What a great idea!

Be there for

2:45:322:45:40

the girls, the women, and just take

this one down!

She would not

2:45:402:45:45

remember the steps! That is what

would happen!

You are better at the

2:45:452:45:50

steps?

I sometimes tell her the

steps, not at the Olympic

2:45:502:45:57

performance, but other

performances...

I have a question,

2:45:572:45:59

can I ask about the atmosphere

behind-the-scenes? People who have

2:45:592:46:03

seen the film, I know it dates back

a long time, but what is it like,

2:46:032:46:08

what are the other artists like with

you, is there quite an edge to

2:46:082:46:12

things?

It is very friendly, we have

all grown up together essentially,

2:46:122:46:16

we have been competing for such a

long time at junior competitions,

2:46:162:46:20

you make your way up, everyone is

very nice.

Obviously we all want to

2:46:202:46:28

beat each other... At all costs!

Not

at all costs!

No I, Tonya here!

It

2:46:282:46:36

is all very professional, nothing

too excited because we get on very

2:46:362:46:38

well.

I cannot quite see the ring on

the finger yet, Penny?

My mum is

2:46:382:46:44

very disappointed!

The mums are

applying the pressure all the time!

2:46:442:46:51

Nothing like being on national

television! Thank you very much.

2:46:512:46:59

Nick is so happy that the interview

has ended!

2:47:002:47:05

Classrooms will become newsrooms

today for the twelfth annual BBC

2:47:052:47:07

School Report News Day.

2:47:072:47:08

11-18-year-olds across the UK

will be reporting on the stories

2:47:082:47:10

This year BBC has launched a brand

new interactive game,

2:47:112:47:13

produced with Academy Award-winning

animation studios Aardman,

2:47:132:47:15

to help young people learn

to identify fake news.

2:47:152:47:17

Breakfast's John Maguire

is in Bristol with some

2:47:172:47:19

of the students who helped

to develop the programme.

2:47:192:47:22

Good morning. If you have ever been

involved in School Report, it is a

2:47:222:47:27

fascinating and rewarding day.

Always good to work with young

2:47:272:47:31

people, especially those who are

engaged with the news agenda and the

2:47:312:47:34

world around them. These pupils have

worked with Hardman animations and

2:47:342:47:38

the BBC on this game. Essentially,

you are a journalist and your first

2:47:382:47:45

day at work, a big breaking story

comes along, and you have to decide

2:47:452:47:50

which stories to trust and what to

publish. Students at this age and

2:47:502:47:56

much younger have been involved,

too.

2:47:562:48:03

Sometimes it's difficult to tell

what's real and what's not. Fake

2:48:032:48:07

news is a real issue in this

Internet age, especially for

2:48:072:48:10

children. These students at Whitley

Academy in Coventry have been

2:48:102:48:14

helping to create an online game to

teach youngsters how to detect when

2:48:142:48:18

news is made up.

Like I said, what I

can't say, it's too early to say.

2:48:182:48:25

But that doesn't mean we don't know,

just that we don't know yet.

The

2:48:252:48:30

scenario involves a major problem

with a social media company.

I with

2:48:302:48:35

a major incident here.

The students

act as journalists, trying to find

2:48:352:48:39

out what's how and when to publish

their story.

Always keep on asking,

2:48:392:48:46

because at one point you might get

to the bottom of it, the dark

2:48:462:48:50

secrets that the CEO wants to keep

from the news.

I think it teaches

2:48:502:48:58

you how to make the right decisions

about what's happening, and that

2:48:582:49:03

really helps, because now on social

media and stuff they give out a lot

2:49:032:49:06

of fake news on the Internet, and

some people believe a lot of it, and

2:49:062:49:11

that can get them in a lot of

trouble.

The games being released

2:49:112:49:14

online by the BBC on School Report

day, and is being made alongside the

2:49:142:49:23

animators Aardman

2:49:232:49:26

day, and is being made alongside the

animators Aardman.

2:49:262:49:29

What you think of the characters we

are putting in?

I really like them.

2:49:292:49:34

My favourite is Psy Fox.

This has

brought it to my attention, to

2:49:342:49:43

encourage younger kids if they hear

anything on the news to research it

2:49:432:49:47

and see if it is true or false.

Part

of this scheme is about trying to

2:49:472:49:52

find resources, finding out if it is

real and if it is safe to share it

2:49:522:49:56

when other people are open to

finding out about it as well.

30,000

2:49:562:50:01

students take part in School Report

each year. Helping them to

2:50:012:50:04

understand what's going on in the

world. And this game is designed to

2:50:042:50:09

inform and protect them from

malicious fake news. Teaching them

2:50:092:50:14

to question, to ask what, how, and,

crucially, why.

2:50:142:50:20

You made it. Welcome to the social

media team.

2:50:202:50:28

It is always a bit unnerving

spending time with students like

2:50:322:50:34

this, because they want our jobs!

Thalys about it.

You spend the day

2:50:342:50:41

as a BBC reporter, and you go

through scenarios, working out which

2:50:412:50:44

is real news and fake news of what

to post, and you do that and work

2:50:442:50:49

your way through.

So is it easy, do

you think, with the game but also in

2:50:492:50:54

real life, to determine what is

fake, what is malicious, what is

2:50:542:50:59

real news?

Not all the time, you

have to look at different sources,

2:50:592:51:03

because some sources come from

schools, and you have to double

2:51:032:51:07

check whether it is actual

information or whether it is

2:51:072:51:10

somebody's report, so it is not

easy.

And how important do you think

2:51:102:51:14

it is? There is so much noise out

there especially considering all the

2:51:142:51:19

different social media platforms.

How important do you think it is to

2:51:192:51:21

be able to discern what is true and

what isn't?

It has knock-on effects,

2:51:212:51:26

if you have not told the truth, or

not necessarily not told the truth

2:51:262:51:31

that given false information, then

other people will believe that.

And

2:51:312:51:36

you were part of the team who worked

with Aardman who are based here in

2:51:362:51:43

Bristol. What was your input?

What

we gave backers feedback, they acted

2:51:432:51:47

on it and put it into the game, some

features that we said would work

2:51:472:51:51

well, it is great to see that they

are now in the game, that they take

2:51:512:51:54

ideas on board. Great fun.

And I

wonder whether people are optimistic

2:51:542:52:00

or pessimistic about the future,

especially when you consider things

2:52:002:52:03

like fake news. George, what would

you say?

I think it is getting a lot

2:52:032:52:08

easier to back check your answers,

because there are credible sources

2:52:082:52:14

and not credible sources, so towards

the future, I think it is looking

2:52:142:52:20

better.

And you told us earlier you

quadruple facts check, four times!

2:52:202:52:25

And Chloe, I know that you have made

your own BBC School Report today,

2:52:252:52:32

tell us about that.

It is basically

about the same thing, about the

2:52:322:52:36

Aardman game and what our input

would be developing it. So I did a

2:52:362:52:43

BBC School Report described what was

going on, and I did an interview

2:52:432:52:48

with a natural BBC journalist which

was a lot more interesting, so that

2:52:482:52:51

is good.

And here is an actual BBC

journalist doing an interview with

2:52:512:52:55

you! Did you find the issue is

difficult to tease out, or what did

2:52:552:53:00

you reckon?

I think in the actual

game, it's mind boggling, you could

2:53:002:53:05

say, because they trick you into

thinking, maybe it isn't actually

2:53:052:53:09

fake news, it is definitely

difficult, but it is good, because

2:53:092:53:12

it keeps your brain active.

Thank

you to all of you, especially for

2:53:122:53:18

coming in. Sorry, just losing my

voice.

2:53:182:53:22

We will talk while John recovers!

Get a glass of water, give him a

2:53:222:53:30

moment. No, he's gone. He could have

done that on purpose, but I don't

2:53:302:53:37

know whether it was on purpose or

not.

2:53:372:53:41

What, the coughing? No, he's having

a glass of water, he is OK.

2:53:412:53:48

Matt is in Gloucesterhire

with a look at this morning's

2:53:482:53:51

weather, and there are signs there

that spring has finally sprung?

2:53:512:53:56

Was Charlie going to try and make

you sing? We will see! Good morning

2:53:562:54:03

to you from Gloucestershire. I'm

joined by the head gardener here,

2:54:032:54:08

Matthew Hall. Thank you for getting

up so early. Tell us a little more

2:54:082:54:12

about the Arboretum here.

We have 55

acres, 3000 trees and shrubs from

2:54:122:54:21

all over the world dating back to

the 1880s, so quite an extensive

2:54:212:54:25

collection.

It is a site that has

expanded a lot over the years with

2:54:252:54:30

different things added.

We have a

lovely visitor Centre, cafe, garden

2:54:302:54:34

centre to go round, plenty to see

the kids, families as well. And

2:54:342:54:40

plenty of daffodils in flower at the

moment, magnolia is, cherries, they

2:54:402:54:44

are beautiful at this time of year.

Let's talk about the Spring Flowers,

2:54:442:54:48

a little delayed this year in into

flour, aren't they?

They keep

2:54:482:54:52

getting this cold weather, they

don't like it, I don't like it. They

2:54:522:54:57

are a little bit later, but they are

all coming into bloom now, and we

2:54:572:55:01

have a lovely display, so hopefully

over the next few weeks they will

2:55:012:55:04

get better and better, and the

weather will get warmer.

And what

2:55:042:55:07

other things can people expect to

see coming to blossom around the

2:55:072:55:12

country over the next few weeks?

We

have some nice Japanese cherries

2:55:122:55:18

here, we have a nice collection of

123, so they are now blooming, and

2:55:182:55:22

we have all different colours.

So

you just need the warmer weather

2:55:222:55:27

now! I will see what I can do. That

is Matthew from the Arboretum here.

2:55:272:55:32

A lovely morning as far as the

location is concerned. The weather

2:55:322:55:36

could be better, heavy rain around,

a bit misty, but let's take a look

2:55:362:55:41

at the far cast for the rest of the

UK. There are hints that it is going

2:55:412:55:46

to get very cold into this weekend,

but certainly during today and

2:55:462:55:49

tomorrow, some rain and even shorter

bursts of showers around through the

2:55:492:55:53

coming days.

2:55:532:55:59

Very wet weather pushing its way

north at the moment. Lots of dry

2:55:592:56:03

weather, one or two showers over the

Grampians, and already the rain

2:56:032:56:07

pushing into Scotland. Lots of

surface water around, and it stays

2:56:072:56:12

wet this morning through parts of

northern England. We will start to

2:56:122:56:17

see things turn of dry, the rain

turning patchy, but still remaining

2:56:172:56:20

grey, misty and drizzly, but towards

the south-west, some sunshine

2:56:202:56:23

developing. The showers will

gradually start to work their way in

2:56:232:56:29

as we go through the rest of the

morning into the afternoon, and we

2:56:292:56:36

will see brighter skies develop. One

or two showers, Northern Ireland and

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north-west England improves, but

north-east England, good parts of

2:56:422:56:44

Scotland staying rather wet. Some of

the rain turning to snow over the

2:56:442:56:51

Grampians, and temperatures ranging

from six in Aberdeen to 12 in

2:56:512:56:54

Plymouth. Strong to gale force winds

across the North. The winds remain

2:56:542:57:00

strong through tonight, particularly

across the northern half of the

2:57:002:57:03

country, still bringing rain and

hill snow across eastern Scotland

2:57:032:57:06

and the far north of England. There

will be a few showers keep going

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across southern parts of England and

Wales into the morning, and the gaps

2:57:112:57:14

between them with some clear skies,

lighter winds and the odd missed off

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on that. By and large, a frost free

start to Friday. Make the most of

2:57:192:57:25

it, because whilst Friday we stay

with generally mild conditions,

2:57:252:57:30

still some rain across eastern

Scotland, snow in the Grampians, and

2:57:302:57:34

elsewhere, some sunshine developing

but heavy, thundery showers in the

2:57:342:57:37

south, and temperatures still into

double figures, if a not low teens.

2:57:372:57:44

Then biting easterly wind will be

blown across all parts of the

2:57:442:57:47

country on Saturday, bringing dry

weather, some sunny skies but also

2:57:472:57:51

some snow showers later on and

across eastern parts of England, and

2:57:512:57:54

they will become a bit more

widespread across England and Wales

2:57:542:57:57

through Saturday night into Sunday,

and look those temperatures. Barely

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above freezing across many areas,

and when you add on the wind-chill,

2:58:042:58:08

it will feel much colder than that.

So the spring blooms may be out

2:58:082:58:13

behind me, looking gorgeous, but

even they will be feeling the chill

2:58:132:58:16

as we go into this weekend. The mini

beast from the east is backed!

2:58:162:58:24

We will have to come up with a

better name for it!

2:58:242:58:33

Every country has a culture

with its own quirks that are often

2:58:332:58:36

overlooked by visitors.

2:58:362:58:39

Sometimes lack of knowledge can lead

tourists into trouble.

2:58:392:58:44

E-cigarettes could land

you in hot water in Thailand.

2:58:442:58:47

The wearing of camouflage clothing

in the Carribean is a no-no.

2:58:472:58:50

And having a Buddha tattoo could see

you deported from Sri Lanka.

2:58:502:58:55

The Foreign Office is warning young

Britons who have been inspired

2:58:552:59:02

to travel to far flung lands

2:59:022:59:05

To do their homework.

2:59:052:59:08

Sean Tipton is from the Association

of British Travel Agents, he joins

2:59:082:59:10

us from our London newsroom.

2:59:102:59:12

And here in the studio,

the editor of Wanderlust Travel

2:59:122:59:14

Magazine, Phoebe Smith.

2:59:142:59:15

Good morning to you both. It is a

wonderful thing that people feel the

2:59:152:59:19

ability to travel the places.

It is,

and it has never been easier or tree

2:59:192:59:23

per, budget airlines are launching

long haul routes, Norwegian going to

2:59:232:59:27

South America, and I was looking the

other day, you can get to Abu Dhabi

2:59:272:59:34

for about £300 return. That is very

cheap compared to what it was even

2:59:342:59:38

just a few years ago. So it is no

wonder that younger people are

2:59:382:59:42

travelling more and go into more

exotic locations.

So it is a good

2:59:422:59:46

thing, but they can get themselves

into trouble in various places. What

2:59:462:59:50

sort of things would you warn

against or alert people to?

Always

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read the Foreign Office advice

before you go, because when you turn

2:59:573:00:01

up in a country, they are happy to

see you, most countries are

3:00:013:00:05

hospitable and want tourism and they

are happy few to enjoy yourself, but

3:00:053:00:07

you should all wait remember that

you are a guest in somebody else's

3:00:073:00:12

country, and many countries are

rather conservative, very

3:00:123:00:15

traditional destinations, and you

might be doing things that in the UK

3:00:153:00:19

would be regarded as perfectly

acceptable, but in that country

3:00:193:00:22

could be seen as very rude, and you

wouldn't know, so read the Foreign

3:00:223:00:30

Office advice. More seriously, you

could do things that could end up

3:00:303:00:33

with you being jailed. In many

countries, you might be travelling

3:00:333:00:36

with prescription drugs which you

need for health reasons, but if you

3:00:363:00:39

don't have a letter from your

doctor, some of those drugs could be

3:00:393:00:43

regarded, you could be seen as a

drug smuggler. That can be very

3:00:433:00:47

serious. They won't necessarily

arrest you for that, but they could

3:00:473:00:52

confiscate your drugs or refuse you

entry. There are many countries, as

3:00:523:00:57

you read out earlier, have some

quite strange arcane laws which you

3:00:573:01:00

simply would not be aware of. If you

go to Thailand, a lot of young kids

3:01:003:01:05

love Thailand, don't make any

off-colour jokes about the royal

3:01:053:01:09

family. We have seen people get

themselves into serious difficulties

3:01:093:01:14

simply because they didn't realise,

so check the Foreign Office advice.

3:01:143:01:19

It is very straightforward and

well-written and you can stay out of

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trouble.

Phoebe, some of those

things are very serious. But there

3:01:223:01:26

is a lighter side to this, to do

with etiquette, if you like. Give us

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some examples.

I had a friend who is

a guide in Thailand, and it is very

3:01:313:01:37

bad to show the soles of your feet,

feet up seen as being unclean, and

3:01:373:01:41

there was a monk walking past and he

saw a bug on his foot, lifted up and

3:01:413:01:48

exposed his foot to the monk below

who was offended. So there are

3:01:483:01:53

things like that you wouldn't think

about. Japan is the place where even

3:01:533:01:57

the most well travelled person, I

myself did some cultural faux pas,

3:01:573:02:04

because there are some any. When you

go into a place you take off your

3:02:043:02:07

shoes and you are given different

shoes to walk around in, but you

3:02:073:02:10

have another pair to where to go to

the toilet. There was someone there

3:02:103:02:14

who forgot to remove the toilet

shoes and walked back into the

3:02:143:02:18

dining room with a toilet shoes on,

and every body was very amused, but

3:02:183:02:21

that can cause a fence. People are

mostly very gracious and understand

3:02:213:02:26

that you have just made a mistake.

3:02:263:02:32

Looking towards the summer, given

what is

3:02:323:02:34

Looking towards the summer, given

what is going with Russia and there

3:02:343:02:36

is the World Cup there, what would

your advice be to people thinking of

3:02:363:02:41

travelling there?

If you want to see

one of the matches, make sure you

3:02:413:02:43

get your tickets through an official

ticket provider, there are

3:02:433:02:48

fraudsters who get attracted to

major sporting events. If you are

3:02:483:02:51

not going to get a ticket but just

want to go to soak up the

3:02:513:02:55

experience, make sure you get your

freezer, you will need a Visa if

3:02:553:03:07

you do have a match ticket and it is

a lengthy process. When you are

3:03:153:03:18

there, the Russian police will be

quite strict I think around heavy

3:03:183:03:20

drinking, I am not saying you are

going to do that if you go but bear

3:03:203:03:23

it in mind, they have said if

somebody tries to get into a match

3:03:233:03:26

drunk they will not let them in. On

the whole it is common sense advice

3:03:263:03:29

when you are travelling so bear in

mind you were a guest in someone

3:03:293:03:32

else's country as a rule of thumb,

if you would not do it in the UK,

3:03:323:03:35

don't do it in the country where you

are having a holiday.

Sean talking

3:03:353:03:38

about Russia there, on the whole,

leaving aside the wider issues, when

3:03:383:03:40

you meet people individually you can

create your own ambulance?

3:03:403:03:42

Absolutely, and this is the joy of

travel and why, at the moment, I

3:03:423:03:46

feel like we live in a climate of

fear, people not travelling to some

3:03:463:03:50

places because they have that fear

but travel is the best thing you can

3:03:503:03:54

do in times like this because it

makes you realise we are more

3:03:543:03:56

similar than different. I was lucky

enough to travel through Russia,

3:03:563:04:00

take the trans-Siberian train, and

the people I met was so warm, open,

3:04:003:04:05

honest, some people had hardly

anything and would be the most

3:04:053:04:08

generous and sharing of their

culture, their food, the whole

3:04:083:04:22

experience, so I would say don't let

it put you off, travel really is the

3:04:233:04:26

best education you can ever get,

especially as a young person, I

3:04:263:04:30

think we should all do it.

We will

leave it on that positive note!

3:04:303:04:32

Thank you both for your time this

morning.

3:04:323:04:34

Still to come on Breakfast - we'll

be joined Don McLean as he prepares

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to embark on his latest tour

at the age of 72.

3:04:363:06:04

Now, though, it's back

to Charlie and Louise.

3:06:043:06:12

Look at that, on cue! We are on

3:06:183:06:19

Look at that, on cue! We are on air

now!

OK!

Can I introduce you? This

3:06:193:06:29

is Don McLean! Lovely to see you.

Shall we do a formal introduction

3:06:293:06:34

for you? No. People will blow you

through your music and maybe they

3:06:343:06:40

don't even know some of the songs

you have created through the years,

3:06:403:06:45

but American Pie, for example, it is

like one of those registers, people

3:06:453:06:49

go, I know that song, it is one of

my favourite.

Downloaded £110

3:06:493:06:55

million. Vincent has been downloaded

about 30 million times but 110

3:06:553:07:01

million, I was not even watching,

someone did an interview with me

3:07:013:07:04

called Don McLean and the digital

age, and they said, even though I

3:07:043:07:08

got some sort of certificate from

BMI that said it had been played 5

3:07:083:07:15

million times, they said, that is

nothing, 110 million on a Spotify or

3:07:153:07:20

whatever, I don't understand the New

World too much but it seems to be

3:07:203:07:23

working for me!

When you wrote that

song, did you never could have such

3:07:233:07:28

incredible residents?

No, I didn't,

I was a nobody, one album out, very

3:07:283:07:32

tough going, the song was a

phenomenon right away, they started

3:07:323:07:41

playing Peggy Sue and Buddy Holly

again and so many things happened,

3:07:413:07:49

the Buddy Holly story, the actual

book, according to the author of the

3:07:493:07:57

book, nobody wanted the book, after

American Pie they put the boat out

3:07:573:08:00

and it became the template for the

movie and then they started having a

3:08:003:08:07

lot of these old stations playing

50s and 60s music, which they

3:08:073:08:10

thought nobody cared about, so

American Pie opened the door to a

3:08:103:08:16

lot of

3:08:163:08:23

lot of stuff.

You are going on tour,

you are going to play something now

3:08:233:08:29

for a slight?

This is called Total

Eclipse Of The Sun, it is a true

3:08:293:08:35

story, I will sing a couple of

verses...

3:08:353:08:39

# There she was behind the counter.

# When I saw her she took me by

3:08:393:08:45

surprise.

# Ten years past and our brief

3:08:453:08:48

encounter.

# When I got caught with the phone

3:08:483:08:52

in my eyes.

# It was a total eclipse of the sun.

3:08:523:08:57

# Total eclipse of the sun.

#

3:08:573:09:03

# On that hot summer day, she blew

me away.

3:09:033:09:07

# In a total eclipse of the sun.

One more verse, goes like this...

3:09:073:09:15

# She invited me to her summer home

and when I got there she told me

3:09:153:09:20

goodbye.

# I stayed the next day, she stayed

3:09:203:09:24

awake while the sun burned a hole in

my eyes.

3:09:243:09:29

# It was a total eclipse of the sun.

# Total eclipse of the sun...

3:09:293:09:40

# I remember that day when they all

looked away from a total eclipse of

3:09:403:09:47

the sun #.

What I was thinking as you were

3:09:473:09:53

thinking that, you are such a good

storyteller, you are absolutely

3:09:533:09:56

drawn into the story as you are

thinking.

I think of the story in my

3:09:563:10:04

head, I think it into a tape

recorder and I still do the same

3:10:043:10:06

thing, with this album it had been a

while since his American troubadour

3:10:063:10:10

documentary and double CD had come

out and the next project, I did not

3:10:103:10:15

know what I was going to do, I am

getting old, there are a million

3:10:153:10:19

things out there and you think, what

is the point? But I started this

3:10:193:10:22

Botanical Gardens idea of being

almost a place where an old guy goes

3:10:223:10:27

to remember his youth and romance

and behind these gates is the city,

3:10:273:10:34

he has got to go back to the city,

cold, not very romantic place, but

3:10:343:10:41

here he is in this wonderful garden

and he starts thinking about falling

3:10:413:10:48

in love again and all this good

stuff and this whole album came from

3:10:483:10:52

that, really.

The botanical garden

is used to bore?

A beautiful garden

3:10:523:11:02

next to the Sydney Opera House and

several tours I would take my

3:11:023:11:08

exercise and walk over there. I have

been in many of these places, I live

3:11:083:11:16

in properties with large gardens and

all kinds of natural things, I am

3:11:163:11:21

not a city person, so it is lovely

to have that and England has so much

3:11:213:11:28

of that as well.

We have plenty of

lovely places. Are you going to

3:11:283:11:33

indulge us by playing something from

the old days as well?

I will play a

3:11:333:11:40

little chorus of American Pie.

There

was a little cheer from the gallery!

3:11:403:11:47

The whole thing started in my head

like this...

3:11:473:11:51

# A long, long time ago, I can still

remember how that music used to make

3:11:513:11:56

me smile.

# And I knew if I had my chance, I

3:11:563:12:00

could make those people dance.

# Maybe they'd be happy for a while.

3:12:003:12:07

# But February made me shiver.

# With every paper I'd deliver.

3:12:073:12:14

# Bad news on the doorstep, I

couldn't take one more step will

3:12:143:12:18

stop # I can't remember if I cried

when I read about his widowed bride.

3:12:183:12:27

# But some things touched me deeply

inside the day the music died.

3:12:273:12:36

It all came in one thing and then I

started to think...

3:12:373:12:42

# By bike, Miss American Pie. Drove

my shabby to the levy, but the levy

3:12:423:12:47

was dry.

# Them good old boys drinking

3:12:473:12:53

whiskey and right-thinking, this

will be the day that I died.

3:12:533:12:57

# This will be the day that I die.

# We were

3:12:573:13:10

# We were thinking bye bye Miss

American Pie, took my share to the

3:13:103:13:15

levy but the levy was dry.

# Them good old boys drinking

3:13:153:13:20

whiskey and right, thinking, this

will be the day that I die #.

3:13:203:13:26

That has made my day! That is it on

Breakfast, thank you for joining us,

3:13:263:13:30

Don McLean, you are a legend! Thank

you so much, have a great day,

3:13:303:13:34

everybody, goodbye.

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