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heading our way and wet and windy again. That is all

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Guilty of assisting this serial killer ASH two people are convicted

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of helping Joanna Dennehy. In the programme tonight: The sweet faced

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schoolgirl who became a cold`blooded killer, and the family who still

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can't believe what has happened. can't believe what has happened

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There was a girl that we like to turned into a monster.

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Also, tonight: As the floods continue to rise, how our region is

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helping out as more bad weather head this way.

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And on Charles Darwin's birthday, the project that aims to re`houses

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collections. Good evening. First, tonight, the

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mother from Peterborough who became a serial killer, and the two men who

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helped her cover her tracks. Tonight, Gary Stretch and Leslie

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Layton are behind bars awaiting sentence. Joanna Dennehy has already

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admitted killing three men and trying to murder two more. Her own

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family have described her as a monster. Stretch and Layton both

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claimed they were under her control, but neither took to the stand to

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defend themselves. Neil Bradford was in court as they were convicted.

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It took the jury of eight women and four men more than 27 hours to reach

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their guilty verdicts in the dock. In the dark, both men stared ahead

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as the jury delivered those verdicts to the courts. Despite their pleas

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to the contrary, both men were found guilty of being converses to Joanna

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Dennehy. They were caught on camera covering the tracks of the serial

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killer, standing is Gary Stretch. He's seen filling a petrol can use

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to burn out the car behind him, which belonged to one of the

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victims. Inside is Joanna Dennehy, described as a woman driven by a

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thirst for blood. In this picture, she's seen posing with a knife while

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on the run. Kevin Lee was her landlord and lover ` he was her

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second victim. His family spoke today.

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As a family, we feel an immense pressure to fill this void. Life is

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now very dull without Kevin around. Joanna Dennehy has taken over our

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lives, and has callously created a whole which cannot be filled.

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The killing spree began in March last year. She knew all her victims,

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stabbing them through the heart The first, a friend ` a polish worker,

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Lukasz Slaboszewski, she'd enticed by text. Ten days later ` Kevin Lee.

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On the same day, she murdered her house mate John Chapman ` he'd

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flirted with her, said Dennehy. Helped by Stretch and Layton, the

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bodies were dumped in a ditches around Peterborough. Hand in hand,

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Dennehey and Stretch went on the run ` an unholy union, the court was

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told. They headed to Hereford, hunted by the police. Dennehy,

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buying cigarettes before what she called having her fun. This time,

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two random knife attacks With her is Mark Lloyd ` a friend of Gary

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Stretch. He was in the car at the time.

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She was evil. She knew exactly what she was doing.

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Stretch picked the victims, he said. Dennehy then attacked.

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Gary gestured out the window and ask, will he do? Dennehy was all

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over him ` literally 15 to 20 stab wounds.

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Their first victim was Robin Bereza. I'm going hurt you, kill you, she

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told him. Then, ten minutes later, John Rogers ` the attack brutal and

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frenzied. Moments later, Dennehy and Stretch were arrested.

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Apart from what you've just told me, are you on any other medication?

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are you on any other medication Stretch's defence ` he feared he'd

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be next. Not so, say prosecutors. They were friends. I don't know how

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far that friendship was the bond that gave the loyalty to him to

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assist her. He must have felt safe in her company. Not only had she

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committed three murders, and he had assisted in the disposal of the

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bodies, but he had driven her into Norfolk. He drove her to

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Herefordshire. He must have felt quite safe.

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Gary Stretch told a witness, I'm a professional burglar, not a

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murderer. Leslie Leyton was called a petty thief. Two men ` willing

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partners, the court was told ` in her ghastly tale of criminality.

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her ghastly tale of criminality Stretch and Leighton claimed they

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were frightened of Dennehy, and that they feared for their lives.

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Instead, they fuelled her need for violence and assisted her in living

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out her fantasies. Gary Stretch is seven tall, and was described in

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court as Dennehy's nodding dog. A third man has already admitted his

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part in the crimes, and will be sentenced at a later date.

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Piecing together events and bringing Dennehy, Stretch and Layton to

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justice has been a complex operation for the Police, involving a number

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of forces. It was led by the Bedfordshire, Cambridgeshire and

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Hertfordshire Major Crime Unit. The case has preoccupied Detective Chief

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Inspector Martin Brunning for almost a year. I spoke to him outside court

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a little earlier. Today is about families of those who

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were murdered, and the two men in Hereford who survived the attack by

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Dennehy. Today is about them, it's not about me or the investigation

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team. But I am delighted for them that they can start to move on now,

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knowing who is responsible in entirety for the terrible events of

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that affected their loved ones. The family have described Joanna as an

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evil monster. I'm interested to know how you would describe her?

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She is quite clearly a woman capable of the most despicable acts. She has

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demonstrated that. She is, in my view, a sadistic serial killer.

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Anyone who is prepared to behave in the way that she has, over the

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course of 14 days, taking the lives of three men and inflicting

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horrendous injuries onto others on an entirely random basis. She is

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clearly a significant danger to the public, and on that basis, it's very

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difficult to comprehend how anybody could be thinking when they are

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committing such atrocious acts. Are you any closer tonight to really

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understanding why Dennehy did what she did?

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I don't think it's within the scope of anybody's, retention and to

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understand what Joanna Dennehy was thinking, or why she did what she

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did. We don't have the benefit of her explanation. To put three men to

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their deaths in the way that she did, and carry on a seemingly for

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fun in trying conservatively to kill two more men, is simply beyond

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anybody's, retention. The court heard how she was very

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controlling and manipulative. In a way, she's still got some kind of

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control, hasn't she? Through her silence, she is failing to explain.

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She is very capable of making her own decisions. Why she made those

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decisions I don't know. What I do know is that she made them

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coherently ` as horrendous as unwarranted as the acts were, she

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made those decisions. Maybe in the fullness of time we will get some

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explanation. Let's take a look at Dennehy's ten

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day killing spree in a little more detail. It began in Peterborough on

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the 19th March when she murdered Lukasz Slaboszewski in Dogsthorpe.

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Ten days later, she murdered Kevin Lee in the same place. A few hours

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after that, she killed again. This time, the victim was John

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Chapman.Their bodies were later discovered in ditches in Newborough

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and Thorney Dyke. But by then. Dennehy and Stretch were already on

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the run across Suffolk and Norfolk ending up at King's Lynn. The next

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day, she drove to Hereford where she tried to kill two other men. So,

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what turned this sweet faced schoolgirl into a cold blooded

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killer? Out Home Affairs correspondent Sally Chidzoy has this

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report. Killing men was Joanna Dennehy's

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idea of fun. Up close and personal was her style. She plunged this

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knife into the hearts of three men. There was a girl that we loved, who

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then turned into a monster. I can't describe it any other way. You can't

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really give it a word. Sick, I suppose. I could never picture in my

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own head that she was capable of doing something so monstrous. I hope

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that she never sees daylight again. Ever.

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The killer with a psychopathic disorder, and the little girl she

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once was, going up in a comfortable home in Hertfordshire.

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They worked the people who didn t work. They weren't alcoholics or on

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drugs. They were just normal people like you and I `` they wed the

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people who didn't work. As a teenager, Joanna turned her back on

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her family and moved out. Often homeless, she turned to drugs and

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alcohol and was a familiar sight on the streets of Peterborough.

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She's lost her soul. I don't think she even knew who she was herself.

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She had a history of self harming. She also spent time in prison for

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petty crime. In March last year, she petty crime. In March last year she

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started her killing spree. It was here that two of Joanna Dennehy's

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here that two of Joanna Dennehy s victims met violent deaths. She was

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said to have a spell over them. She looted Leuchars slavers at the here

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by text, and dumped his body in a wheelie bin. Later, his body was

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found slashed in a black sequinned dress. Dennehy lived in this house

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were she killed the third victim John Chapman. Least believe he died

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because he saw her in the bath. I just think she's a nasty piece of

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work. There was no need for it. John was so lovely.

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The men's bodies were dumped it in Peterborough. Afterwards, she called

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Gary Stretch quoting from the Britney Spears song, oops, I did it

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again. Dennehy and stretch went on the run,

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driving across Suffolk and Norfolk, ending up on this estate. She wanted

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to see an old prison friend. Also in the house, was plumber Sean Keeble.

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He was shocked when she described what she had done with one of

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victims. She said she had put bleach on him.

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Dennehy said that she and stretch were like Bonnie and Clyde. She

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wanted the killings to make her famous. She was ecstatic when she

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saw a TV report saying she was wanted for murder.

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She had removed in your hands, jumping up and down, really happy. I

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said to her, don't you feel bad? She said to her, don't you feel bad? She

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was laughing and said no. Dennehy and stretch headed for the

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Midlands will stop they were captured holding hands at this

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service station. On arriving in Hereford, Dennehy 's start to more

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men in random attacks. Miraculously, they survived and gave evidence

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John Rogers was out walking his dog when Dennehy stabbed him for...

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40 times. She said, you're bleeding, I'd better do some more. I was just

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waiting for it to stop. When it did finally stop, I just thought well

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this is it ` I'm going to die. A short time later, they were

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arrested. Her so`called fun was over.

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She's the most dangerous woman that I have met in 20 years of policing.

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I would love to hear her story at some stage in the future, because

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when you look at the extent and destruction she has brought to

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people 's lives, she owes somebody an explanation as to why she decided

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to do that over that 14 day period. Well, I'm joined now by Dr Samantha

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Lundrigan ` Senior Lecturer in Criminology at Anglia Ruskin

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University. As we heard there, the police are no closer to

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understanding what her motive was. Can you shed any light? I think

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there is only one person who really knows what motivated this crime `

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and that's Joanna Dennehy herself. I don't think she'll ever tell us,

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because that's the ultimate control for her. I think control is at the

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heart of her motives. This gave the complete power and dominance over

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men that she wanted. She stabbed them in vicious attacks. She also

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got a great deal of thrill out of it.

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We know that she did have psychiatric problems. Is she evil or

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is she'll? She is certainly evil, she's bad and

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has very bad things. She is suffering from psychological

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disorders `3 personality disorders, all of which fall under the

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classification of antagonistic disorders, whether it is a great

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deal of hostility involved. It also includes reckless behaviour, not

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having care for the consequences of your actions. Don't get me wrong,

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she knew exactly what she was doing. She chose to kill again and

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again. She was known to the authorities as

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a petty offender, wasn't she? What escalates that into a serial killer?

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I think the clues, perhaps, the little we know about her background

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` she came from a loving, stable home. When she reached adolescence,

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she disassociated herself with those family environments. She got

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involved in chronic drug and alcohol misuse, and the personality

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disorders, together with that alcohol and drug misuse, meant that

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it escalated. Her default position, the way she thought, the way she

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perceived people around her, was with hostility. It wasn't much of a

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stretch from the life characterised by hostility to killing.

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How unusual for those actions to be done by a woman? White

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extremely rare. About 10% of serial killers are female. That equates,

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through our databases, to about two or three I year worldwide. To

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display these types of characteristics is rarer still.

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Thank you very much. There's comprehensive coverage of

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this story online and on BBC Radio Cambridgeshire's Breakfast Show

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tomorrow morning, when Paul Stainton will be asking can Joanna Dennehy

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ever be rehabilitated? Other news, now, and there are fears

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of further flooding over the next few days as more bad weather hits

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the region. High winds and heavy rain mean we could see a repeat of

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last Friday. Where roads and properties were flooded. We'll hear

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from the Environment Agency in just a moment, but first the efforts of

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farmers and firemen from this region who are helping those affected by

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flooding along the Thames and in Somerset.

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For people in Northampton, the flooding is a painful reminder of

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this ` the Easter floods of 199 , this ` the Easter floods of 199 ,

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when two people died and 10,000 people had their homes and

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businesses ruined. The experience of dealing with Northampton's floods

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led to the development of the county's own flood rescue team,

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which is now helping Fire Brigade across the south`east. The memories

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of the devastating flood is still fresh in the mind of one of the

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town's MPs. Can I remind the Prime Minister that

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in 1998, Northampton suffered periods floods. Will the Prime

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Minister, after this episode has been dealt with, ensure that we

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don't build on flood plains so that people shouldn't be inconvenienced

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in this way. But it's not just the emergency

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services helping out. One Cambridge farmer has set up a Facebook page,

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asking for donations. That sort of thing could easily

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happen here. We've been let down by the Environment Agency and

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government. Apart from Friday's flash floods, this part of the

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region has escaped relatively unscathed.

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With rivers on flood alert, field saturated and more rain on the way,

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both farmers and the emergency services are watching the forecast

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closely over the coming days. Well, earlier, I spoke to Norman

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Robinson of the Environment Agency who told me we should be on our

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guard for the next few days. I think, the worst case for us

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between now and Friday, we could see the same rainfall as last Friday

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that top we could be back in the same situation, with rivers very

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high. The key will be how the water gets from the fields to the rivers,

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which could lead to some surface water issues locally. There could be

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some flooding. Dangerous driving conditions?

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Could be. Last Friday, we saw some is dumb act cars stuck. The general

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advice for the end of this week is if you see water, don't drive into

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it. Is there anything that the

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Environment Agency could be doing to limit the damage?

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The key thing is keeping the river is clear. Potentially, trees fall.

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We are out on the ground keeping the rivers clean of debris. We are

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watching the flood defences to make sure that they are prepared for

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Friday. In our control centre, we watch the forecast.

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Your advice to people is to keep intact and the watching?

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Absolutely. Your forecast will tell you what's coming on Friday. Sign up

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with our flood warnings direct, and we will tell you if your property is

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under threat. The main thing is being prepared. Have a floods plan `

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what would you do if the worst happened? That type of thing is very

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important. Thank you. This is something It s an

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unenviable task. You wouldn't want to do. To pack up four million

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delicate exhibits, ranging in size from a tiny beetle to the skeleton

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of a whale in just eight months That's the challenge facing workers

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at the Museum of Zoology in Cambridge. It's got to close for

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over two years as it undergoes an ?18 million revamp. But more money

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still needs to be raised. Louise Hubball reports. Moving can be a

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stressful experience at the best of times. Even more so when your cargo

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is an extinct river dolphin. There are millions of specimens here from

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the great White orc, which died out over 150 years ago, to the Tasmanian

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tiger which was with us until 1 36. tiger which was with us until 1936.

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Now, all are being packed up as part of the transformation of Cambridge's

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Museum of Zoology. It's an absolutely huge challenge.

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You could use the words mammoth task. We have four million specimens

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in the museum. We have up until September to get them all packed,

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and then we have to move them to new stores. It's not something that

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museums do everyday ` we don't pack up all our collections, but this new

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development means we can have new stores, which means that we can give

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guided tours around store rooms, and guided tours around store rooms, and

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see many items as they're being conserved and researched. That will

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mean access to treasures not normally on display.

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Many of them connected to Charles Darwin. Darwin set sail for South

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America aboard the Beagle in 18 1. He collected many species, including

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these finches, and formed the basis of his ground`breaking theory of

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evolution. Now, the museum itself is evolving. This is what it will look

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like in 2016. An impressive ?18 million interactive space, telling

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the story behind the artefacts. We still need an extra ?3 million to

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be able to fully realise our ambitions. This is a grand project,

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a very ambitious project, but we have the collections to match our

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ambitions. The revamped museum will aim and not

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just to be about the past, but form part of a wider campus that will

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draw on current research from world experts based here, who, in turn,

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will use the collections to try to predict the future of life on Earth.

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But in the short`term, even the building contractors are but which

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by then latest project ` a museum moving with the times in an

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ever`changing world. We've heard about some pretty horrid

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weather on it's way, but the strong wind is already taking an effect. A

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tree is down on the East Midlands rail line causing delays through

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Kettering and there also problems on the line between Ely and Norwich.

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Julie Reinger hello. Yet more wet weather this

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afternoon. Here it is on the radar. The heaviest rain producing up to

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seven millimetres. Accompanied by strong south`westerly winds. These

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are the strongest gusts, up until 5pm. Tween 50 and 70 mph. During

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tonight, it looks like some further showers coming in behind that main

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band of rain. Some could turn wintry, with some sleet and hail

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mixed in. Lows of `` we should see the winds easing down. Temperatures

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in rural spot could drop down to freezing. In sheltered areas, we

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can't rule out some frost. Tomorrow, the system responsible for today's

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weather pulls away. This low is set to bring more wet and windy weather

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for Friday. Tomorrow, we are in between. It's not looking too bad.

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It looks like a scattering of showers again, which could turn

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wintry. A lot more dry weather, with spells of sunshine. It will be

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blustery, although not as windy as this afternoon. Temperatures at

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highs of six degrees. Certainly not feeling the warmest. We finish the

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day with a few showers around, but largely fine and dry. The outlook:

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Here we go again! Friday will probably be a dry start, but we are

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expecting an area of low pressure to push up from the South West,

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bringing more rain. Heavy at times, and could produce ten millimetres in

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places. The strongest winds will actually follow in behind the main

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band of rain, once it has pulled away. We could see some strong to

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gale`force southerly winds. Into Saturday, when we will hopefully see

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those winds easing down. Some blustery showers which could turn

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wintry. Sunday, is looking uncertain. As it stands, a largely

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fine and dry day. Much lighter winds. Before I go, these are your

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overnight lows. On Thursday night, frost and ice could be a problem.

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The jury just didn't buy the defence case for Gary Stretch and Leslie

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Layton. They said they were scared and were going along with it because

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they were forced. Prosecution said they could have told the police at

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any time. This is a case of Harrow converses. It has brought into sharp

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focus the spotlight on her. What is your take on Dennehy?

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Might take is based on conversations with detectives, and looking at

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police tapes. She has no empathy for the victims. She tried to joke with

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detectives shortly after the attacks. We know that she's very

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bright, and that she psychopathic. We understand that she had many

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violent relationships with men and women. We also understand from

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psychiatrists that it was very likely that she was a victim at some

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point in her life of serious violence or sexual assault. The

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secret she will take weather is why she did this.

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Thank you. All three face prison sentences. The families of those who

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were killed face a different sentence, and the unanswered

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