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European Union after 44 years of membership. That's all from the BBC

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Good evening and welcome to a special BBC Look North from Boston.

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We are live by the River Witham in the town centre.

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Three quarters of people here voted to leave the European Union,

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that's the highest number anywhere in the country.

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Today, their wish is coming true and we'll being finding

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Today, their wish is coming true and we'll be finding out

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what they want Britain outside the European Union to look like.

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This is an historic moment from which there can be no turning back.

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Britain is leaving the European Union.

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As Article 50 is triggered, we look at the role Lincolnshire

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and East Yorkshire played in taking the UK out of the EU.

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We are going to take this opportunity to build a stronger,

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fairer Britain, a country that our children and grandchildren are proud

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to call home. I will be live at Westminster, where

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most of our MPs say they are determined to make a success of

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Brexit. The changing face of a town -

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we look at how different communities have been affected as Boston

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prepares for Brexit. I haven't cried as much yet in my

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life as I have cried since Brexit. I don't really know what this Brexit

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thing will mean for us. It's just going to be some stress,

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and I'm going to lose my friends. I'll speak to people in Boston

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to find out what they want to see when we leave the EU and how

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they feel about the change. I hope will not affect anything. So

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you want less foreign people here? Yes. But you are foreign. I think

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we're going to be all right. We have survived the first nine months, and

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will be all right. And the Brexit winners and losers -

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we find out how businesses are being Exceptionally mild over the next 24

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hours. Temperatures may reach 18-19 in southern parts of Lincolnshire

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tomorrow. Join me for the latest. Nine months after the UK

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voted to leave Europe, Article 50 has been triggered,

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that means the Prime Minister has formally told the EU

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that we intend to leave. A period of negotiation expected

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to take around two years but perhaps Boston is important, because 75% of

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people here voted to leave the EU last summer, when there was the

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referendum. That figure is simply the highest in the country.

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Later in the programme we'll find out how people

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here now feel but first, our political editor Tim Iredale

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is in Westminster for us tonight and has been following events there,

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how significant is today in the Brexit process?

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Well, many of the people you speak to in Boston tonight and others

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across Lincolnshire and East Yorkshire who voted in huge numbers

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to leave the European Union last June may be wondering why it has

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taken so long to get to where we are today. The simple answer is, up

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until now, combination of MPs, the House of Lords and judges could in

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theory have overturned the result of the referendum, but we now know that

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isn't going to happen. So it has left the way clear for Theresa May

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today to send that goodbye letter to Brussels, and that means we are

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heading for the EU accident door. A warning, this report contains some

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flash photography. After years of discussion,

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debate and division - Britain IS leaving

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the European Union - the separation finally

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confirmed today by the Prime This government has a clear plan for

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Britain that will change this country, that will see us with a

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more global outlook, a stronger economy, a fairer society, and the

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more united nation. What this triggering of article 50

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means today is, it is the first step on the road of Britain taking back

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control of its immigration policy, and that is exactly what the people

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of Boston and Lincolnshire have been saying they have wanted for a long

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time. Today is the day we do it. The United Kingdom became part

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of what was then called Is Europe stronger with Britain a

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member? Yes! But even then, in the days of

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flares, big collars and sideburns, many politicians started

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campaigning to get us out. A referendum in 1975 saw British

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voters choose remain part A referendum in 1975 saw British

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voters choose to remain part of the European Community,

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but it would be a different story more than 40 years later

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when the people were asked We can make tomorrow our

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Independence Day. It was clear that Lincolnshire

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and East Yorkshire would be targeted heavily by the Leave campaign,

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with concerns about the impact of immigration high

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on political agenda. What would be the impact if we

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remained in the EU for our NHS and other public services, which are

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already under huge strain because of the increasing migration?

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In our part of the world, the verdict was clear.

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Lincolnshire recorded the country's biggest vote

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in favour of leaving the EU - but Hull and the East Riding

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Yet that wasn't the end of the story.

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A legal challenge led to parliament having a say on the Brexit process,

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but MPs ultimately decided the result of last summer's

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Britain's divorce from the EU will be complicated and could be costly.

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But the historic decision made by voters in East Yorkshire

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and Lincolnshire last June will become a reality.

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Tonight, Brexit really does mean Brexit.

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It certainly does. Thank you very much.

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Now, Boston is a good example of a town which has been hit by

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immigration. The 2011 census found that there had

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been a large increase in population, with 13% of the town

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being born outside the UK. When you ask people why they voted

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in those huge numbers to leave the EU, many people say it was because

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of the strain on services in this area. Places like the doctors and

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the hospital, and that excuse and that reason came up time and time

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again. So how do the people of Boston now view the prospect of

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being outside of the EU? For 12 years Hana has lived

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and worked in Boston, her son Michael was born

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here but they are Czech rather than British nationals

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and since the Brexit vote she says their future

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feels less secure. I haven't cried as much in my life

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as I cried since Brexit. It's like a blank, we don't know

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what's going to happen. We still don't know what this Brexit

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thing will mean for us. Do you worry about anything

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to do with Brexit? It's just like that there's

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going to be some stress and like, I'm just going to lose my friends

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and stuff like that. But efforts are being made to make

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Boston's many foreign The town's iconic St Botolph's

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Church, known as the Boston Stump, now has a multi-lingual chapel

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to encourage people of all nationalities

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to worship together. I have seen what has been

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happening post-Brexit. I've made connections

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with lots of people from different communities and there is a very

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positive drive to make this town a community where people

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celebrate living here. And even some of those who voted

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to leave the EU want better integration between Boston's

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different communities. One leave voter has set up

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a Facebook group called Boston More in Common

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to encourage that. Boston seemed to me at that point

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going nowhere and we'd got a lot of people here that

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were from eastern Europe and I wanted to become friends

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with those people and try and sort out some of the problems that

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Boston has with some Here in Boston more than 75%

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of voters opted to leave the European Union in last June's

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referendum and today, around nine months on, the process to make that

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happen has officially begun. What do people here hope

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that will mean for them? I never wanted to come out from it

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anyway so I'm hoping that things Has life been different

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here since the vote? I think it has changed the town, not

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for the better but for the worse. Since the vote?

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Yes. Hopefully the people

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who are here for that many years, I am a bit. Things might change but

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hopefully for the best. For Hana life has certainly not been

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better since the EU referendum but she hopes that now the official

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Brexit process has begun, she will at least get some

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clarity on the future. I must say I have had a lovely day

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in Boston so far. I'm joined now by Julian Thompson

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and Ziedonis Barbaks. Julian has lived in Boston all his

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life. Ziedonis is chair of the Latvian Council in Great Britain.

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Good evening to you both. Julian, why did you vote to leave? Two

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reasons, mainly. I was fed up with the bureaucracy of Brussels, and

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them forever saying we can do this and that, and the other, being tied

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to Brussels, laws being made that we were no longer in control of, and

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then also because of the influx in Boston. We have received no funding.

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It wouldn't have mattered if it was 10,000 people that came in.

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So it is what I was saying a few minutes ago, the effect on the

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services? Definitely, the services have

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suffered. You were worried about leaving the

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EU. Why are you worried? I am worried

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about the people living and working in this area. Those people are very

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worried about the information on leaving the EU, and there is no

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information on what will happen afterwards. That is my worry.

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Are the Eastern Europeans that are here wanting to stay?

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Yes, they want to stay, but right now, the situation is where they are

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already thinking to leave the United Kingdom.

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Because of what has happened? Yes. You say you are worried about the

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future of Boston. In what way? There are loads of works and loads of

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shops be opened this area, and on West Street, 12 years ago, that was

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empty, but now there are loads of businesses around the area, and the

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people running the businesses are worried about what is happening up

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to Brexit. Would you go along with that,

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Julian? You could end up with empty shops?

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We could end up with a vacuum, yes, not only in the shops, but in the

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warehouses and the destruction that has been built to make this work for

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them. What they want to see, then? We have

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heard these negotiations will start and go on for at least two years.

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What do you want to see Theresa May get for us?

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I wanted to make sure that there is a level playing field and that

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people are going to get the rights that they are rightfully for,

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because from now on, they are going to be UK citizens. That is the way I

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would like to see it go. So are you now fully on board with

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it, would you say? Yes, I voted to leave, but at the

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end of the day, I want people to feel happy in their own space, and

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that is what getting Boston together is all about.

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Some people I spoke to today, Latvians, they were not particularly

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settled or happy. They were very worried.

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Well, yes, that is why the factories and gangmasters are using these

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people. And we were talking about 0-hours

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contracts, this is the wrong in this country. Because loads of people,

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there is exploitation going on with the zero contract, and this is why

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they work even more, and if Brexit happens, there will be more

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exploitation. That is why people are thinking of leaving the UK.

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Very interesting indeed. Levy finally ask both of you, Julian,

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first of all, how optimistic Ayew for Boston Post Brexit?

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Very optimistic. I want people to come together in the town and become

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one. It hasn't happened up to now.

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It hasn't, but this is one thing we're taking steps to answer, to

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make sure people forward and feel part of a town, rather than being

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segregated. And ??MACRO1, are you optimistic?

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I am optimistic, but like I said, the council on the government need

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to give it more information to the people who are already here, because

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it will be too late if they are not given any information.

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Very interesting to chat with you both. Thank you very much for

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joining us here. Thank you for watching. We are live

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from Boston on this Wednesday night with a Brexit special. Still ahead

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on the programme tonight: What people in Boston want to see through

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a Brexit deal. No show without Punch, and he has

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been mentioned even in his absence wherever I have been today. "Is Your

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mate with you? Is going to rain?" No. If I had been on the forecast

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last night, you would not be wearing a cheap scarf you presumably got

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from Boston market. Maybe you would like to apologise to

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the market right now?! Let's have the forecast, then.

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The headliners very mild one, I think.

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In Boston tomorrow, every chance we could get 18 or 19 degrees. How

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about that for the end of March? Cloud at first, it will slowly

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brighten up up becoming exceptionally mild. April showers

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for the weekend on Saturday, some sunshine in between, but this ridge

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of high pressure, a forestay is the same, will ensure Sunday is the best

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day, dry with some lovely April sunshine to come. All the weather is

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coming up from the south-west, very mild direction, with these mild

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temperatures, and you always expect a lot of cloud. That cloud has been

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producing some outbreaks of rain and drizzle in the last few hours.

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Basically, it becomes dry overnight, with a few clear intervals. Always a

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lot of cloud, but night-time temperatures very mild indeed, 11th

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Celsius. A moderate south-west wind continues. The sun rises at 06 40.

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Your next high water time in Skegness at 0834 in the morning.

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Fairly cloudy, bit of dampness, a risk of one or two areas of patchy

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rain from the south-west, not amounting to very much. The main

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trend is slow, but it is for brighter skies to Bush over the

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cell. South Lincolnshire brightening up first, and that brightness should

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get all way across the Humber by the end of the afternoon. Let's look at

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the top temperatures. They average around ten for the 2nd of March, so

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look at that. 17 across East Yorkshire, 18-19 in Boston, Holbeach

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and King's Lynn. The chance of the odd 20, which is pretty remarkable.

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Let's look at the further outlook. Patchy rain perhaps for Friday

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morning, Saturday looks fine with some sunshine and April showers.

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Fine on Sunday. That is the forecast.

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And Jeffrey tweeted earlier on to say, I bet you have to wear a tie at

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the golf club, and several people said the same after your comments

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last night. Actually, I have an exemption,

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Peter. I yes, because you are a VIP in your

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own mind! See you tomorrow. Enjoy it.

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Yes, I will. Small businesses say they will be

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hit "disproportionately hard" if tariffs are imposed

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on European Union imports The man in charge of Britain's

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departure from the EU and one of our local MPs, David Davis,

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admitted that leaving the EU without a trade deal could create

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new tariffs and barriers. In the coming talks,

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businesses say free and easy trade Our Business Correspondent

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Leanne Brown is here. Why is trading with

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Europe so important? Well, with small businesses, 90% of

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those that export do so with EU countries, so that is why it is so

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important to them. Having said that, almost as many, 78%, also trade with

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other countries, places like America, China and New Zealand. So

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businesses are very much divided on the impact that Brexit might have.

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What is clear is that there have been winners and losers since the

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referendum, and I have been speaking to some small businesses about the

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impact it has had, and their hopes for the future.

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We have just had Mother's Day, so obviously this is

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The flowers that we sell here come from numerous countries.

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I would say predominantly we use Dutch flowers and Colombian

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and obviously we support all the local English

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Britain leaving the EU has already affected our business.

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As soon as we all woke up that morning and found

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out we were leaving, the pound devalued and immediately

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My main concern is how we're going to trade directly

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with European and other countries and also what is going

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Mark, we need to count the stock now.

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I think it is an exciting time for the country.

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We've just got to stay positive whether we are going through a tough

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We make creams gels and cents, and import essential oils.

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Straightaway, we have seen orders coming in because of the way the

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euro and dollar have gone against the pound. The future for us is, we

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are a bit concerned about tariffs that might come up when we come out

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of the EU. Also, Commonwealth countries, America, New Zealand,

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etc, whether we will have tariffs from them or none. We don't know how

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it will be coming for it is going to go.

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The busiest time is always Christmas but closely followed by Easter.

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Like baking, or anything else, the proof of the pudding

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It's somehow or other making it with your hands

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It makes it taste better. We are increasing our sales rapidly.

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My son went with the Department of International Trade

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on a three-day introduction to exporting over to Holland

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We are looking into the possibility of that at the minute.

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We don't see that Brexit will hold us up in any way.

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It is what it is and so we're just going to head

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Britain is very renowned for quality of its products.

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So, different experiences from the businesses

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What assurances do companies want to see secured by the government

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In a nutshell, they want the transition to be as easy as

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possible. One of the biggest advantages they have at the moment

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is access to the single market, where businesses can import and

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export without any taxes or tariffs. So many people will want to keep

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hold of that or keep tariffs to a minimum. But of course, once we are

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out of the EU, new trade deals can be arranged. Donald Trump, for

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example, the president of the United States, has said he very much wants

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a trade deal with the UK, but those deals can take time, so it could be

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many years before we see any movement there.

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Another concern for businesses is getting enough people to do the

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work. Some people say there is too much migration, but others, like

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farmers, say they need those people to do the work. At the moment, we

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have the free movement of people, which means that those who live

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within the EU are free to live and work in other countries in the EU.

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There is no guarantee that that will stay post Brexit. What is likely to

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replace it as some sort of Visa or work permit system, but of course,

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that will also apply to Britons who want to go elsewhere as well. And

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then finally, there is the issue of the exchange rates. Once Britain

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voted to leave the EU, the value of the pound plummeted against the

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dollar, down by 15%, and against the Euro, about 12%. That is good for

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exporters, but bad for importers. And now article 50 has been

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triggered, businesses will be keeping a very close eye on that.

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But Peter, businesses are very resilient, and they tell me they are

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pretty used to change. Good, good. One business, the lovely

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flower company, sent me some flowers back from when you went filming.

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Lucky you! You did not get anything, but I got

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a boat Quay. Thanks to the ladies for the flowers.

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I have been speaking to people here to find out

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what they are hoping for when we leave the European Union.

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What do you want from Brexit now in Boston?

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I think the Boston justified its own way. I think we're quite accepting

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that we're going to leave the EU. -- Boston to find its own way. But the

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people I hear, we want them to stay here, and just be a community

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together. Had you think Brexit is going to

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affect Boston? I am not sure. I hope will not

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affect anything. That we will stay where we are, in our working places,

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and our families. It is bad for the people that are

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scamming the country, yes. They need to be shifted. But the ones that are

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earning tax for this country should have a right to really have them.

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What would you do with those who are not earning tax for the country?

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Kick them out. It may be a good thing, to reduce

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the amount of foreign people. I know I am foreign.

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But you want less foreign people here?

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Yes. But you are foreign. Yes. We have survived the first nine

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months, so I be all right. When you ask them why they want to

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leave, they can't tell you. They just say, we want our country back.

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And when you say when, or from who, they can't and a year.

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Lovely people I met in Boston market earlier today. That go back to our

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Let's go back to our political editor, Tim Iredale,

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Article 50 has been triggered. What can we expect now?

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we know there will be a lengthy period of negotiation. For more than

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40 years, many of the laws that govern our daily lives have been set

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not by Westminster but by Brussels, so the government must now decide

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which of the thousands of pieces of EU legislation to keep and those it

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wants to ditch, and we are talking about so a different areas here. EU

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regulations that go fishing, farming, the environment.

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Cooperation between police forces, pet passports, and arguably the

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biggest headache for the government, the law surrounding immigration,

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which I know you have talked about in Boston tonight. So the man with a

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great deal on his plate tonight is the halt in price and Howden MP

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David Davis, who is Theresa May's Brexit Secretary, because he has got

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to make all this work. The clock is ticking, because we only have two

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years to come up with a negotiation. In March 2019, we will be out of the

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EU, whether there is a deal or no deal, Peter.

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Thank you much indeed. Joining me here just outside the hotel on the

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side of the river is Paul Kenny, former mayor of Boston. Good evening

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to you. Good evening. You voted remain. Ayew disappointed? No, I am

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not disappointed. I have heard what the people of Boston have said. A

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lot of things the local people were saying, I agree with them. I

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personally wanted to stay in Europe, but I didn't want to stay in Europe

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with no change in Boston, and one thing I am pleased about is, we need

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change, and the quicker we get it, the better.

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And when you say change, what you want to see? Do you need more money

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for services? Well, I don't think we need to wait two years to sort out a

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lot of the problems in Boston. The licensing of HMOs, houses in

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multiple occupation, having a proper street ban on the town, and also,

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having a walk-in surgery to take pressures of the local hospital. We

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can do that tomorrow. What we can do in the meantime is sought out a

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proper immigration strategy and policy I can work for the long-term.

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Do you think there will be a decline in the town if the migrants leave?

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I think that comes from two issues, really. I want to see the end of

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exploitation. The workers in this town on 0-hours contracts are bad

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for this town, so in a sense, if people leave because of those

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contracts and wages, the industry needs to do that. But I'll so

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recognise that Boston needs an agricultural industry.

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Mark, you voted to leave. I think it is rude frustrating that

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today has finally arrived. You could have conceived and given birth in

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the time it has taken to actually get the vote going ahead today.

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What do you want to see? Well, I want to see... Obviously,

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the U did not turn into what our forefathers voted for in the 70s,

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and we need to see some stronger control of our borders. We need to

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invest in our own infrastructure. The money we can save that has gone

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out to Europe could go an awful long way to improving sleepy little

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market towns like Boston, which have struggled under a massive influx of

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a burden. And you very much indeed. Paul,

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thank you very much. Plenty of negotiations to go on over the next

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two years. Stand-by in a moment when Andrew Neil will sell to the Prime

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Minister on BBC One. I will see you tomorrow at the same time. Take

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care, good night. I expect you'll want to become

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a schoolmaster? That's what most of the gentlemen

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