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Welcome to BBC Points West, with Alex Lovell and David Garmston.


Reaction in Somerset, as Alexander Blackman


has his conviction downgraded to manslaughter.


In the heat of battle, things happen that shouldn't happen, that doesn't


excuse it. I still feel he should never have been charge when you


think of all these other people killing one another.


A film-maker who was embedded with the Marines says there's a thin


line between a court martial and a military cross.


Police think four men could have important information.


How people with disabilities are finding themselves shut out.


And we saddle up with Lizzie Kelly, as she prepares for


Alexander Blackman, from Somerset - the first British soldier to be


found guilty of a battlefield murder in modern times - has


The news was beamed across the UK as, outside the court in London,


Also in the tens of thousands of supporters, especially from the


Royal Marines family, who have stood behind us throughout to have played


such an important role in getting us to this point. Thank you.


Alexander Blackman, who was known as Marine A,


is now awaiting a new sentence, after five judges agreed


he was mentally impaired at the time of the killing.


Our Somerset correspondent, Clinton Rogers, reports


Clinton. Alex, thank you very much indeed.


This is a Royal Marines town, 40 commando based around the corner. So


it is not surprising that most of the people we have spoken to today


have welcomed this judgment. Not everyone, we have also spoken to a


former Royal Marines commander who said that Alexander Blackman had to


be prosecuted for what he did. More on that in a minute. Notwithstanding


the day's judgments, Blackman will not walk out of prison tonight,


there needs to be a new hearing and a new sentence for his new


collection of manslaughter. But today, at least, the Blackman


supporters are celebrating. In Taunton - a Royal Marines town -


you don't have to look far to find people flying the flag for Alexander


Blackman. Well, that's better than it was,


but I still feel that he should After all, he was fighting


for his country, and things Yet there are those who believe


Alexander Blackman had to be held Well, it was right


that he was prosecuted. That sort of action has


to be investigated. Simon Hollington was


a Royal Marine for 24 years, Today, he told me Alexander Blackman


had crossed the line of what was acceptable


on the battlefield. I can understand how


he did what he did. Otherwise, we are


reduced to savages. What do you say, though,


to the argument that what goes on on the battlefield should stay


on the battlefield? If somebody breaks the law,


and it is the law, then Sergeant Blackman is currently


in Erlestone Prison, in Wiltshire, having served more


than three years and any year Now, this all dates


back to September 2011, when he was serving


in Helmand Province, Afghanistan, when he shot dead a seriously


injured Taliban fighter His actions captured


on helmet camera. Legally, we can only


play you the sound. But his prosecution


prompted protests. This one, on the streets


of Westminster. And in Parliament today,


the local MP welcomed And will the Prime Minister agree


with me that within the correct legal framework, those


who defend our peace, protect our world from evil,


be treated with fairness And another MP, a former soldier,


said the right outcome had It was always my view that whilst


Sergeant Blackman had behaved in the most despicable way,


what he was guilty He was mentally ill


when he did what he did. He had not been looked


after by his chain of command. He had seen things that


would have snapped the will And what he did was awful -


truly, truly awful - but it wasn't murder,


it was manslaughter. So murder has now formally


become manslaughter, but the debate over the rights


and wrongs of the shooting and the prosecution which followed


it hasn't gone away. Well, the reporter, Chris Terrill,


has met Alexander Blackman He was also embedded


with the former Marines unit He has spoken to some of the men


who were with Blackman on that day, for a special edition of Panorama


which airs tonight. Would you think that what happened


that day was the only time that And the same in every other


conflict, where there I think it's just another day


in Afghanistan and... And none of us got hurt,


so it was a successful day, Chris Terrill joins


us now from London. Thank you for coming on the


programme. Just reminders of what the mission was on that particular


day, they were trying to wrap the enemy and to kill them? Not exactly,


no. Generally, that was the challenge of the Royal Marines, to


lure out the enemy. Sergeant Blackman and his patrol was sent out


on what is called a battle damage assessment, to assess the damage


inflicted by an Apache helicopter on the insurgency. That is when he came


across a very badly injured insurgent. And that led, as we know,


to the killing. Your film is enormously powerful, you can see and


feel the heat, the tension, the fear and so on. And yet when this killing


took place, Sergeant Blackman was reciting Shakespeare and he seemed


very calm? Yes, if you just look at the helmet camera footage by itself,


anybody would think, guilty as charged, and the rates, lock him up


and throw away the key. It is important to see beyond the


pictures. Remember that on this critical day, the day that this


killing happened, now manslaughter rather than murder, it was


nonetheless the day at the end of a torrid six-month tour. What the lads


still call a tour from hell. So I think we have to see this is the


culmination of an experience that few of us could deal with. That is


not to say, of course, as I have been hearing from your other


contributors, that Blackman is without culpability. In fact, I have


met him several times in prison and he is the first to throw up his


hands and admit what he did and also that he is ashamed of what he did.


He said, if only I can go back, Doctor Who Time Machine and undo


what I did, I would do that, hand on heart. He accepts his culpability.


But it is a sensible move forward today to see this in context is a


very nuanced situation, but it has taken a long time for people to get


their heads around it and we are getting closer to understanding it.


I hope my film tonight throws a little more light on the doctors as


well. I watched the film this afternoon, it is extraordinary.


Thank you for joining us this evening.


That Panorama programme will be on tonight, at 22:50, on BBC1.


The police are trying to find four people who were in Trowbridge


within minutes of a young man being stabbed to death.


Jordan Taylor died early on Sunday morning.


Detectives believe the four people may hold the key to what happened.


Here's our Wiltshire reporter, Will Glennon.


The pictures aren't easy to make out, but police think


someone out there will know who these people are.


The footage was all taken in the centre of Trowbridge -


near Prospect Place and Timbrell Street -


at the weekend, in the early hours, as Saturday night turned


We have frantic evidence which can eliminate these people from all


enquiries, so we would urgently like to hear from them or anybody who


might recognise these individuals from the CCTV. It is likely some of


the four would just walking home from a night out, they all passed


closely to the incident and they may hold the key to solving the murder.


They're especially interested in a white man with receeding hair,


wearing a green parka, carrying a black bag.


We are certain that someone knows this man and he might be from the


local area. If you think you know any of the people in the CCTV, I


would urge you to get in touch with us. Also, we are interested in


speaking to anyone who matches the description and who may own a Star


description and who may own a Star Wars logo bag.


Most of the police cordons in place on Monday have now been removed.


The searches for physical evidence are almost complete.


Just one side road remains sealed off.


Flowers and messages are still being laid outside


the community hospital, the spot where Jordan collapsed


and died after struggling there with his friend.


When you look at all the flowers and read


some of the tributes, you can tell Jordan


His mum described him as 'The funniest, most loving young


She said he loved life and lived it to the full.


Jordan's brother, Damian, said they'll always be


Will Glennon, BBC Points West, Trowbridge.


I hope you've managed to enjoy the sunshine today.


We've still got plenty more to bring you, including...


On Ladies' Day at Cheltenham, we meet one female jockey


The funeral has been held today for a man who'd saved his mother's


life from a convicted killer seven years ago.


27-year-old Kyle Clarke was run over by a car


His family have spoken exclusively to our home


affairs correspondent, Charlotte Callen.


There's so much you can say about him, isn't there?


Yeah, he was the highlight of my life.


The hardest words a mother could ever say - goodbye to a son.


This is a family who've experienced unimaginable pain.


Kyle was just 19 years old when he saved his mum's life.


He came home from work and interrupted a man who'd


Kyle later learned that that man was convicted


From that date, and from that day, when Kyle learnt the truth


He then started to go downhill, mentally, physically.


He stood by his mum, shoulder to shoulder through the trial.


And her decision to talk publically about the need for more support


Kyle was knocked down at a petrol station in Knowle West, in Bristol.


Dragged underneath a car, he died at the scene.


Over the dark seven years, it's always been,


Is there anywhere we need to take you today, Mum?


Do you need me to do anything with the kids, Mum?"


And what I miss most from him is, wherever he was,


whatever he was doing, I'd always get a text message


at the end of each and every evening to say, "Night-night, Mum.


I love you. See you in the morning."


Through the tears and the sadness here today, his family


try to remember the good times that they spent together,


but they will face another challenge - a court case on Friday.


Shakrun Islam is charged with manslaughter and a trial date


Charlotte Callen, BBC Points West, Southmead.


A former freeminer from the Forest of Dean has been cleared


Dave Harvey was found not guilty of eight assault charges and one


of indecently assaulting a 14-year-old girl.


Mr Harvey, who's 78, is also a well-known


Some people who use wheelchairs in Bristol have told us they feel


the city has made them feel unwelcome and discriminated against.


It comes as a website carried out an investigation on how easy


the city is to negotiate for people with disabilities.


It's a city with steps and steep hills.


The Bristol streets can be challenging for those


in wheelchairs, and getting inside shops, bars and


You feel that you're not welcome in those places, because they're not


adequately supporting you in allowing you to


Some buildings have signs outside saying - you can


When you go out, I personally don't want to stand out.


I want to blend in and be the same as everyone else.


So if I had to ask for help to get into a building, I would walk past.


These people, who all meet at the charity Paul's Place,


Why should disabled people be discriminated from going wherever


Even going to the toilet can be an issue, with disabled loos often


When I go in these toilets, sometimes they smell because they've


changed their babies, and it's horrible.


And you do not want to be in there really.


And I think that's why it should be separate, so it doesn't stink


Saying the situation stinks is an understatement,


It saddens me that it is 2017 and we constantly battle to make sure that


our members get a life that they should have and they deserve.


The website Disabled Go is now updating its pages,


to show which places are easily accessible in Bristol.


But these friends all agree, there's lots that needs to be done.


Well, Chloe Ball-Hopkins - who was featured in


Lee's report there - went for a night out


in Bristol, filmed by BBC Inside Out West cameras.


Nice to see you. What was the biggest challenge on your flat out?


The shock of it was the taxis, we tried a number and seven we tried,


three let me in and two did it with much discussed and one only


willingly. They all had the ability because they carried the ramps


necessary but it was their will, that was quite shocking. It was,


every single one has the spine to say they have wheelchair access and


they have the ramps, they just make every excuse not to help you. What


excuses? One said the Rab was not working, and I hit my head on the


roof as I got in. How did it make you feel? Disappointing, we heard it


was the case but I thought it would be fine because everywhere else I


have not struggled, London, Manchester, all fine, here it was an


issue. Bristol is one of the holiest cities in the country and nobody can


do anything about that, lots of old and Victorian buildings, difficult


to convert. What about the modern structures, new buildings, they


built with some consideration for people who cannot get around so


well? They are getting better now, there was an equality act which says


new buildings have to stick to it. It depends who is around, sometimes


they say they do not have the demand to need it and sometimes it could


just be a portable ramp which is what is needed. That happened in a


club he went on, they had one and another had one and he was not sure


how to put it up. At least they had the wealth. What is your response to


the film, a lot have viewed it? It went up on social media and we have


had other BBC account sharing it and we have over 1.1 million views and a


lot of responses, which is really good to see. 1.1 million. That is


good ratings! Thank you! Lovely to see you, as always. You are welcome


any time. It's Day Two at Cheltenham,


and a huge day for one young jockey. On Ladies' Day, Lizzie Kelly


is making her professional On Friday, she'll become only


the second woman ever to take Yes, exciting finish in her race


today. The father was watching in the winners enclosure behind me on


the big screen, pacing around nervously.


She ended up fifth, on board Diable de Sivola,


The race won by another of the horses from her parents'


stables on the edge of Exmoor, so a good day for the family.


Lizzie is one of only six women jockeys riding


She's already broken records, as the first woman


She will be the first woman to compete in a Gold Cup in 33 years.


She's been talking to Damian Derrick about succeeding


I wanted to dress like a male jockey, you know,


with all the right gear, the proper riding out boots


and the proper britches and everything.


I had to do more to fit in and look the same as all the lads.


Lizzie hasn't just fitted in, she's stood out,


making her own piece of history along the way.


A first ever grade one win for a female rider.


That win at the highest level in jump racing 15 months ago


The confidence side of that, you know, really was massive.


It set in stone sort of where I was going,


Being able to say, look I've won a grade one to myself


when things are, you know, a bit bleak.


Despite her success, opportunities are limited for Lizzie.


Many owners and trainers are still reluctant to expose women


The majority of her rights come from the family is, not that she is


getting family hand-outs. She is not given anything, she writes for us


and we run a business and if we do not get success, we will not be


here, so it is not a gift, she has earned it. And I feel very proud


that somebody can be that dedicated that they make it work. And it is


that sheer hard work that Lizzie says is behind her success.


And although long since used to being outnumbered


in the weighing room, she does understand the significance


of being the first female jockey in 33 years to ride in the Gold Cup.


I think more than any other girl reference, I've really,


Riding in the Gold Cup is massive because it's such an elite race,


reserved for the best horses, the best trainers


And in such illustrious company, Lizzie has already


One to remember for Gloucestershire trainer Ben Pauling.


Just three years after setting up his stables


in Bourton-on-the-Water - just west of here -


he has a first Festival winner, with Willoughby Court.


It is everything and more I could have ever hoped for. I have got a


fantastic team of owners and we have come from eight horses to 60 in the


first three years and hopefully we will have more for next year because


this is what people look for. And they want to see their trainers


producing at the top and hopefully that shows we can do it. The Sun has


set at Prestbury Park. It has been a lovely sun soaked afternoon for


Ladies' Day so I am going to say goodbye and leave you with the best


of the fashion and flamboyance on show, see you tomorrow.


They could have made an effort! Mucking out in the stables in that


might not be too easy! No, I would not think they would,


no! Shall we catch up on the weather?


Yes, Ian is on the roof. When you caught the Sun today, it was so


warm. Yes, hello, it turns into a pleasant


day with the cloud having taken quite a while to clear out of some


parts of Somerset into parts of Dorset. But you caught up. This is


the satellite imagery. The forecast for tomorrow, an altogether


different experience in terms of cloud amounts. Extensive cloud


around during the day. It is looking dry through the morning and into the


afternoon courtesy of a weak front from the Northwest, that will


introduce the likelihood of patchy and showery outbreaks of light rain.


No great amount of rain. A wider look at how things are shaping up.


Cloud increases later tonight. That sets us up for the cloudy start


tomorrow. We watch out for the cold fronts towards the North West. That


splits into a double structure. Both entities fairly weak in nature, so


not great amounts of rain associated with it, opening the door by


tomorrow evening later to cooler air which is in evidence through into


Friday. So for the time being, a lot of clear skies above us. Through the


night, with the clear sky, we could get patches of mist and fog forming.


Second half of the night, areas of cloud expand, especially from the


south-west, so by first site tomorrow, temperatures start at six


or seven Celsius and under if their sheet of overcast. That will remain


stubborn throughout the day with a few exception perhaps. Through the


morning, still dry, and by lunchtime onwards, some rain already to the


West of Somerset. That is the first part of that front in the afternoon


and that is the second into the evening. Two separate entities and


between them, we could get something brighter, including across


Gloucestershire. By the tail end of the evening. But fleeting in


competition with the amount of cloud. Temperatures today, safely


towards the mid-teens. Tomorrow, down a bit to about 11 Celsius


across many districts. Towards Friday, noticeably cooler, dry and


bright start first part of the morning. Cloud increases and towards


the West and North West, there is a sequence of waves on the front which


introduces rain, we suspect, by about mid-afternoon. The timing of


that critical at Cheltenham, and we will give you another update on that


tomorrow. And he very much. It was certainly


beautiful. We have to leave you. Chloe, we filmed you on your night


out and that was the first you had had, you have another planned? It is


my friend's 21st this Saturday, set out on Saturday night to try again.


Lovely, have a nice night. Thank you for joining us, is to you again


tomorrow, goodbye!


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