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This is BBC World News Today with me Kirsty Lang. Pressure a News

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International mounts following allegations that the News of the

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world hacked into the form of a murdered schoolgirl.

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What I have read in the papers is quite shocking, that someone could

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do this actually knowing that the police were trying to find this

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person and trying to find out what had happened.

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The Dutch state is found responsible for the deaths of three

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Bosnian Muslims they handed over to Serbian forces just before the

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Srebrenica massacre. The human tragedy of unimaginable

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proportions - the UN's warning about the drought affecting 10

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million people in East Africa. And still mourning Salman Taseer -

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murdered Pakistani politician and Governor of Punjab province. We

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speak to his son, the novelist Hello and welcome. The methods

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employed by the British tabloid press to get scoops had been under

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the spotlight ever since it was first revealed that reporters from

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the News of the world had been hacking into celebrities phones.

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But this latest allegation that the phone of murdered schoolgirl Milly

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Dowler was also tapped into by a private detective working for the

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paper has caused a political storm. David Cameron said if it is true,

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it is a truly dreadful act. And the Ford car manufacturers have said

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they are pulling all advertising from the paper. Our political

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correspondent reports. Four months this scandal has been growing as

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more and more celebrities and politicians were informed their

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phones have been hacked. Now, a much more serious allegation has

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shocked the country. 13-year-old Milly Dowler went missing in 2002.

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Her body was found six months later. The latest claim is that the News

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of the World hacked into her phone where she was missing and that some

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messages may even have been deleted in the process. David Cameron, who

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is on a trip to Afghanistan, made his feelings clear. If they are

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true, this is a truly dreadful act and a dreadful situation. If what I

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have read in the papers is true, it is quite shocking that someone

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could do this, actually knowing that the police were trying to find

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this person and trying to find out what had happened. All this puts

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more pressure on Rebekah Brooks. She is the chief executive of News

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International in the UK. She was also the editor of the News of the

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World when Malik -- Milly Dowler went missing. She and other

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executives at the paper has always said she did not know about the

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actions of a few rogue reporters. News International argues she is as

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shocked as everyone else. They make it plain she does not intend to

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resign. She has been clear today that is absolutely what she will

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not do. This happened in 2002. She is now chief executive of a company

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in 2011. She is determined to get to the bottom of the issue.

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political heat has been turned up on their empire of Rupert Murdoch.

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The House of Commons will debate the allegations on Wednesday.

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Opposition politicians say they want a full require a set up. They

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also think Rebekah Brooks should go. The is was not just one individual.

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It was a series of things which happened. What I want from News

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International is for people to start taking responsibility. It is

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not just News International which has difficult questions to answer.

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The police originally said phone hacking which used to target a

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handful of celebrities. The latest claims prompt more uncomfortable

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questions about whether a blind eye was turned by Scotland Yard.

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The British actor Hugh Grant who has himself been the victim of some

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sensational stories in the News of the world has joined calls for a

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full public inquiry into the British media. He said the phone

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hacking issue now leads to questions about who we can trust in

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society. The problem with this whole issue has been that we cannot

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entirely trust the normal mechanisms to write a terrible

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wrong in the centre of our society. We cannot entirely trust the police.

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There is a new team now at the police to replace the old one which

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was clearly dragging their feet. To what extent they were in the pocket

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of News International we do not know. Rebekah Brooks has admitted

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that money often changed hands between News International and the

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Metropolitan Police. We cannot rely on that government sadly because

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successive administrations have needed the murder press so badly to

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get re-elected. They had been terrified of the revenge of News

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International, in terms of digging skeletons from their cupboards that

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they have basically been their puppets. We think we live in a

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democracy but really, our prime ministers are elected by Rupert

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Murdoch. It is a great wrong in this country and a public inquiry

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seems to me to be the beginning to how we uncover just how corrupt

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that whole cabal has been. Hugh Grant.

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With me now it is a broadcaster and media analyst Steve Hewlett.

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Picking up. Hugh Grant made about the political power wielded by News

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International in this country, could we see that unravelling it

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end his political storm? Maybe. It is an interesting question but

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Rupert Murdoch own some begging newspapers in their UK. Famously,

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it was said of elections that the sun won it but induce, what papers

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and others have been smart hats, by my analysis, is following public

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opinion. We did not need Rupert Murdoch to tell us that John Major

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had run out of road and Tony Blair was the up and coming thing. Nor

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that Gordon Brown had been finished either. You can overstate this

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matter. In terms of the influence of the press, there are all sorts

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of things conspiring to reduce that, not least the Internet. We heard

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tonight that Ford, the car manufacturer, is pulling

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advertising from News of the World. Presumably this will increase the

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pressure on the top executive of News International? No question. It

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represents that, we have known this practice has been going on on an

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industrial steel by which I mean in that -- phone hacking. The Milly

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Dowler story has seen this jump the wall. It is no longer Westminster

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village, and celebrities, and media land. It is now out in the public

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domain in a way which in packs on people more broadly. The

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advertisers are understandably, starting to think that appearing in

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the News of the World might make them not look the best in the face

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of their customers. This is a significant shift. It moves from

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the media fringes for the story to the mainstream. A change which will

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add to pressure on Rebekah Brooks who is the chief executive of News

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International but who was editor of News of the World at that time?

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There are three aspects. Generally, if it was this widespread, it looks

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like he was going on for years, certainly, for a good part of 2000

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and over a long period of time with a succession of editors. First, if

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it is that widespread, it is implausible that the senior

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management did not know about it. Secondly, it is hard to imagine

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that the editor of the paper at the time would not have been aware of

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the details. But even if you accept that both those counts mean that

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they knew nothing, give them every piece of doubt going, they still

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told us on a number of occasions they had inquired fully and found

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nothing. They have denied that every stage that this went on. Then

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they settled a very big civil action for at �800,000. They

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settled it out of court after the discovery process would have

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revealed to both sides some of what we now know was in the evidence

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that the police had. When they settled back case, there were

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people en News International at a senior level, who knew something

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had gone on. So even if they did not know what was going on at the

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time, they have been involved in something which I have to say looks

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like,... Thank you very much. It is 16 years since the massacre

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of nearly 8,000 Bosnian Muslims in the un administered enclave at

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Srebrenica. Today a Dutch appeals court found that the Netherlands,

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whose peacekeepers were guarding the UN declared safe zone, was

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responsible for the death of three Muslim men. In what is a landmark

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ruling - the court said Dutch troops should not have handed the

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three men over to Bosnian Serb troops who later murdered them. Our

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world affairs correspondent Peter Biles reports. Srebrenica July 1995.

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A so-called UN safe area but one that was overrun by Bosnian forces.

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The Bosnian Muslims thought they had the protection of Dutch UN

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peacekeepers. They were wrong. About 8,000 Muslim men and boys

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were massacred by the Bosnian Serbs. Today in a surprise legal ruling, a

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court in the Netherlands decided that the Dutch government bore some

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responsibility. The presiding judge said the appeals court believe the

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Dutch state had acted illegally towards the three Bosnian Muslims

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and would have to pay compensation. It has been a long painful legal

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ordeal for the relatives of the victims. I am after the killers of

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my family, the Serbs who lived in Bosnia. One of them works in the

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same building that I work in, can you imagine that? I have to go to

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my office every day to the same building and he is still there.

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Believe me, it is just one of the cases I had been dealing with for

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the last 15 years. The families had filed the loss it's because the

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three Bosnian men who were killed had been working for the Dutch

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peacekeepers. The outcome of the case surprised even the lawyers.

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did not consider this possible within the borders of the

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Netherlands. I thought we had to go outside to an international

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tribunal because we're all too much involved. It is too big and too

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much about, in her estate. I thought the court would not be able

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to disentangle themselves. -- our state. 16 years after the massacre,

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this court ruling about the three men who were turned over to the

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Serbs could have implications for similar cases against the Dutch

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state. David Cameron has made a direct

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appeal to the Taleban, telling them to put down their weapons and

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joined the political process but on the second day of his visit to

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Afghanistan, four and 80 soldiers were killed and the question

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remains, what will happen when the coalition forces finally draw down.

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-- four NATO soldiers. British troops in Helmand province.

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Dropping into area region the Taleban previously controlled. The

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Taleban, wisely, were not there to meet them. So far the soldiers have

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not run into any opposition. Usually when the insurgency NATO

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coming in strength, they retreat but not always. One of the

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villagers hopes things will improve without the insurgents around. The

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Taleban still her foot, he says. I am very poor but if I protest, they

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say I support NATO. Natal is successfully pushing the Taleban

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out of places like this. In Helmand, that is because 10,000 British

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troops are reinforced by 20,000 Americans. David Cameron said in

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Kabul today that progress was good enough to withdraw more British

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troops. He will make the announcement tomorrow. It will

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probably be just a few hundred soldiers but by 2015, there will be

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no British combat forces here at all. I think the British people

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deserve a deadline because we have been in Helmand problems since 2006.

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We had been in Afghanistan since 2001. I believe the Afghan

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government and people and Army deserve a deadline so they can plan

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properly towards transition. It is over to the Afghan forces. In the

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village, the police seemed willing to help themselves to food, just

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like the Taleban. They did find a Taleban ammunitions - in the garden.

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The insurgents haven't gone away. They were sniping at the soldiers

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on the operation we joined. The Afghan forces lack much. British

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officers say private lake there is still a big problem with corruption.

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The question now it is will the Afghans be able to do the job the

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British soldiers had been doing as they start to leave?

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Now a look at some other news: More than 30 people in Iraq have been

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killed by two co-ordinated bomb blast at a government office.

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Officials say the building in the town of Taji, about 20 kilometres

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north of Baghdad, was full of people at the time. The first

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attack was a car bomb, then a roadside bomb exploded as people

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Syrian security forces are reported to have shot dead LE6 anti-

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government protesters in Hama on the second day of clashes. They say

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they are continuing to surround Hama and the authorities are trying

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to assert control. The European Union has banned the

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sale of some categories of seeds and beans from Egypt. The report

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macro says a single batch of that seeds was the likely source of E-

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coli eight that killed 50 people. Prince William and Catherine have

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arrived in the far north of Canada for the latest up in their first

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official tour. They are meeting groups and will have an afternoon

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of singing and art export. The United Nations refugee agency

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has said the drought in East Africa is a tragedy of unimaginable will

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proportions. Many people are facing shortages of food, shelter and

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health services. This report from Ben Brown.

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Day after day, mile after mile, they walk and they walk. These are

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the people of the drought. They are also escaping from the civil war in

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Somalia. They walk vast distances a cross land where it no longer seems

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to rain. Some are sick, like this six month old. Some will die along

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the way. These people we came across are from the same village.

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What they carry it is all they possess.

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The journey was too long. We have no food. No water. There were

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threats from wild animals. This group of villagers have been

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walking for five days to get here. Others travelled longer than that,

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sometimes several weeks. They are looking for food, water and medical

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supplies. And they are pleading for help from the international

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community. When they arrive at the Dadaab camp, they are desperate.

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The camp has been overwhelmed. The United Nations say they give basic

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rations to everyone who arrives. Some refugees say they can wait for

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days and weeks without getting proper food supplies. Unless we can

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get aid into this part of the world and increase our operation to meet

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the growing need, this crisis could turn into a catastrophe. This is

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what we have to stop. The most vulnerable in the camp are the

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malnourished children who have just arrived. Often they die within a

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day of getting here. And so the graveyards are filling up fast.

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Mainly, it is children and babies. Families who come in search of food

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and water have found death instead. A Libyan government spokesman

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denied negotiations are taking place about Colonel Gaddafi giving

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up power or seeking safe refuge. Moussa Ibrahim said the claims were

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untrue. Talks have taken place in Italy, Egypt and Norway with senior

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figures in the Libyan opposition, but they focus on finding a

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peaceful way out of the conflict. Crossing Libya's empty desert is

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exhausting. For the journalists, and even for the camels. We are on

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our way to the front line to meet the loyal fighters of Colonel

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Gaddafi, we are told. Instead, after 10 hours' driving, this is

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where we end up. It is, we are told, the latest handiwork of NATO. The

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point of the trip becomes apparent, to witness how NATO is to strike

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Libya's economic infrastructure. -- is destroying. The welcoming

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committee is out and in a full voice. We are not army. Look. But,

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we are standing here. This is our land. The anger may be genuine. As

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with so much in Libya, it is hard to tell what is real and what is

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staged for the cameras. We have been brought here to see the damage

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that the locals say was caused by a NATO strike and to a family home,

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which they say was destroyed by the NATO strike. Once again, there are

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strange things about the bomb site. In particular, this, an ejector

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seat from a fighter jet. It appears to be from a Russian-built aircraft.

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Nobody can explain what it is doing in the middle of a bombed site

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supposedly caused by NATO. There are other anomalies. Spent aircraft

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around sleaze to the ground. -- anti-aircraft rounds of litter the

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ground. And we are taken to see this. The regime say they have seen

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this been smuggled to the rebels from NATO ships in the

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Mediterranean. When we say we need people to discuss peace fully how

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to solve the Libyan crisis, nobody agrees to sit down with us. When it

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comes to supplying weapons to the rebels, everybody wants to.

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message is that it is NATO and its allies that is fuelling the war.

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The only problem is that nobody outside Tripoli seems to believe

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them. A Pakistani religious scholar has

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demanded the killer of a politician be released from prison. Salmaan

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Taseer was a prominent liberal politician when he was murdered by

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his bodyguard. His assassin has since been turned into a martyr by

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Islamic fundamentalists in Pakistan. The murdered man's San it is the

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novelist Aatish Taseer, whose novel tells of someone who goes to meet

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the father he has never met. It must be distressing for you to hear

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the calls for your father's murder to be released from prison. It is

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hideous but sadly predictable. has been turned into a martyr.

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killer is a hero. There are posters celebrating him. It is to hideous.

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Do your family hope... They hope he will be brought to trial, but do

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they fear he will not be brought to trial? There is that fear. It would

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take a strong government to have the courage to bring him to trial.

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I fear there is not the political will to do that. And there is a

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groundswell in Pakistan in support of the killer. It is a very small

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beleaguered number of people who are standing by my father and what

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he represented. I understand your novel, Noon, has been dragged into

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the debate. The first book, stranger to History, has been used.

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It is the worst nightmare to have your writing that was written at

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another time with another intention to be used in this way and turned

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against. It is a horrible thing to go through. I cannot speak for the

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book. It is now in unsafe hands, as it were. They are trying to insure

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it towards the conclusion and some how damaged my father's credentials

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as a Muslim, almost making the case that he deserve to die because he

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was not a good enough Muslim. This shows you the society we are

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thinking about. You did not meet your father until you were 21. Your

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parents separated when you were young. Was it a problem for him

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that you were born of a Indian mother. It was damaging. It is

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something they used against him. In the trial it is a victory for the

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prosecution lawyer to prove that he had an association with this woman

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and a half Indian child. It was damaging. Do you feel Indian or

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Pakistani? I feel Indian in the undivided sense. When I am in

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Punjab, I feel a monk my own people. I have no love for the idea of

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Pakistan -- I feel a month my own people. -- amongst my own people.

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Will your new book be published in Pakistan? I am not sure. I hope it

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will be distributed in Pakistan. This is a volatile time. Because of

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the way that the other book was used, I am almost reluctant to have

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my writing published in Pakistan. Thank you very much.

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Before we go, breaking news is coming in. The ratings agency

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Moody's has cut Portugal's credit rating by it four levels. It is two

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notches above junk territory. It is said it will need a second round of

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bail-out before it can return to the capital markets. And a reminder

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of the main stories. Pressure is growing for the chief executive of

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News International Media Group to resign. This follows allegations

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that a private investigator or was working for the News Of The World

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and hacked into the mobile phone of a missing British schoolgirl.

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Rebekah Brooks says she is appalled by the allegations and has written

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to the family. And an appeal court in the Netherlands has found the

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Dutch state was responsible for deaths in Srebrenica in 1995.

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In the sunshine in eastern England today the temperature reached up to

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the are per 20s. But keep the umbrella us tomorrow, because there

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will be heavy showers. Low-pressure moving in from the Atlantic and

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that will dominate the weather for the rest of the week. We will have

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unsettled weather. These are the showers throughout a Wednesday. At

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4pm, it is not constant rain. They will be showers with brighter

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spells in between. But the showers could well be heavy and thundery of.

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In London, we make it up to 22 degrees. In the showers,

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temperatures will drop quickly. More general rain will approach

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south-west England towards the end of the afternoon. In Northern

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Ireland, sunshine and showers. In the sunshine, it will not feel too

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