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This is BBC World News Today with me David Eades. Water cannon and

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baton rounds - Britain's Prime Minister says the fightback is on.

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After four nights of violence, more than a thousand people are under

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arrest. Police are promised whatever they need.

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Restoring a stronger sense of responsibility across our society,

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in every town, in every street, in every estate, is something I'm

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determined to do. As David Cameron bemoans a lack of

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responsibility, Parliament reconvenes tomorrow for an

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emergency debate. But what can politicians do if the problem is a

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moral one? US forces in Afghanistan say the

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Taliban insurgents who shot down an American helicopter on Saturday

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have been killed. A glimpse of life in the world's

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largest refugee camp - we explore the link between aid and the

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economy of Dadaab in Kenya. Back to the future at the

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Roundhouse - we'll walk you through a performance where the spectator

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Welcome to the programme. The day after rioting spread from London to

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other major English cities, David Cameron has promised to do whatever

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necessary to restore law and order. Plans are in place to provide the

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police with water cannon if needed and baton rounds had been

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authorised - plastic bullets. 1,000 people have been arrested across

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the country and many people are to be tracked down as the police

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lookout CCTV pictures. Last night, three Birmingham man from the Asian

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community were killed in a hit and run. A man has been arrested on

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suspicion of murder. As the rioting has spread, people

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are wondering what to do it to defend themselves if necessary. In

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Birmingham, three young Asian men were trying to protect the area

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when they were run down by a car and killed. A murder inquiry has

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been launched. The car came flying down, took out three of the guys.

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They flew into the air and landed and it was gone off. It was over in

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seven seconds. Three of them were in hospital. The local community

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say there should have been more police in Birmingham overnight.

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This man's son was one of the victims. He was trying to help his

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community and he has been killed. He was a very well liked boy. I

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cannot describe to any body what it feels like to lose your son.

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police had been at full stretch in different parts of the Midlands and

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there have been more than 300 arrests. I do not feel in any need

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to ask for a different and additional resource. What I do need,

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is the additional police officers because of the geography of what

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we're dealing with. We need to make sure that I can offer at the same

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reassurance to people and Wolverhampton, Sandwell, West

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Bromwich, as I can in Birmingham. To do that, I need enough officers

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to go across the hall for us. Manchester, there were battles for

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I was with the police and there was looting which the police were

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unable to stop. This was not a protest, it had been criminal

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behaviour, the worst seen on this scale. Looking at the damage today,

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local people voiced their shock. is quite scary. We sat last night

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and watched everywhere that we live and work getting completely trashed.

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A few of us came into day and it's horrible, really horrible.

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already, the clean-up has begun. Volunteers came on to the streets

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of Manchester to show pride in their city. Manchester has dealt

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with a lot, we had rioting, bombings, but it is important that

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we come together to show what Manchester is about, the true

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spirit of Manchester. They are destroying the city and it's just

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not right, really. That is why we're here today. There is still

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anxiety about what happens next. The police say they are ready, but

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the events of the last few days have caught everyone by surprise.

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Staying with Manchester, footage has emerged showing the police in

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the city confronting suspected looters on the streets. This video

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was posted on YouTube and was filmed near Manchester Piccadilly

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station, an area where the BBC say there was trouble last night. We do

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not know when it was taken or the context leading to this particular

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instance. Fairly graphic example of the police response to one

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individual in particular. The police have not yet commented on

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this footage. David Cameron says a more robust

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response to the writing is working with more her breasts and

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prosecutions. -- the riots. He says there is a lack of responsibility

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in society and he has vowed to restore it standards and values.

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Nick Robinson has been with the Prime Minister in the West Midlands

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Today and sent this report. Taken now, don't pay later. This

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was Wolverhampton last night. They lined up to clean out this family

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electrical store having first robbed and assaulted at sauna.

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Abbas frightened for my life. -- I was frightened. One of them grabbed

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to be by the neck and I was frightened. David Cameron promised

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him and other retailers at tougher police response. Earlier, the Prime

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Minister presented himself as the leader of a new moral hammy that

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would stand up against what he called the worst of Britain.

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moral army. We needed a fight back and a fight back is under way. We

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have seen the worst are Britain, but we have also seen some of the

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best of Britain. The millions of people that signed up to support

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the police on Facebook and communities coming together to

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clean up. There is no room for complacency. There is much more to

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be done. He promised more robust policing using water cannon and

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rubber bullets if necessary. There are pockets of the society better

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not just broken, but frankly sick. When we see children as then as 12

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and 13 looting and laughing, on the seabed disgusting sight of an

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injured young man with people pretending to help them when they

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are robbing him, it is clear that there are things badly wrong in

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society. He did not go risk walking through the city on edge where

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groups of young people gathered menacingly and work the police move

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in at the first sign of trouble. Wolverhampton is still living in

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fear tonight. Arrests on the streets and shops that have closed

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early in order to avoid another night that people fear might bring

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more trouble. The Labour leader Ed Miliband took to the streets of

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Manchester. For now, political leaders are speaking with one voice

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about what has gone wrong. We must not have a situation where there

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are people that think it is OK to go out and commit that kind of acts

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we have seen. I do not want my children to grow all been a country

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where people think it is OK to do that. -- to grow up in a country.

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We have responsibility to make sure that we do not see these kind of

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events repeated. Back in Wolverhampton, they are preparing

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for the worst tonight. Businesses have closed early and boarded

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themselves up. Police have been brought in and people are staying

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at home. Except those that roam the streets.

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There remains a real question over the reasons behind the loosing and

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the rioting. People believe there is little sign of local figureheads

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bringing order back into their communities let alone stopping the

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disorder in the first place. What is the best way to manage the

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situation? Am joined by Professor Marion Fitzgerald, a professor of

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criminology and a former consultant for the police force. Also, Jeffrey

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Butts, from John Jay College of Criminal Justice City University of

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New York. Thank you. Marion, if I can start with you, David Cameron

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has said he is in charge and he will deal with it, he see the right

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person? Should it be at the top of the treat for the grassroots?

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problem is, Prime Ministers have to say this. He came back from his

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holiday and looks to be in charge. He is recommending measures that

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the police don't appear to want. There is the danger that

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politicians at national level that have no understanding of these

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local situations will start to come had with these statements. In order

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to sand tough and in order to above all appealed to sections of the

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electorate that they depend on to bring them back into office. These

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people are appalled by what they see on TV even they are in affected

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by them. There should be dry come to respond to these situations? --

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where shared? Local politicians, and I mean MPs because the local

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state is relatively weak, local MPs that represent those areas for a

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long time are reasonably in touch with what is going on. They watch

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things developing. Unfortunately, a lot of the current government does

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not represent these kind of areas. Rather than having a circus are

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people going around staging consultation events after the horse

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has bolted, you need to tap into local knowledge and people that

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work with young people and people that no young people and will work

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with them over a long time and to sort out from them what is going on

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rather than stage-manager consultation event. Jeffrey Butts,

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if this was going on in New York as opposed to London, who would run

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the show now? Jeffrey Butts, can you hear me? We seem to have

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problems with Jeffrey Butts, let me come back to you, Marion, given

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what you have said, can you see a way where local community leaders,

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perhaps driven by MPs can come to get their and regain initiative? --

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can come together. You have to understand the situation in the

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United States is very different. There is a federal system where the

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local state can raise taxes and has more autonomy and control. The

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politicisation of the police is something that worries me and I am

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worried about going down this road. As the notion of community leaders,

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this comes into play when we talk about ethnic minorities. Backed

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away colonial approach, take me to your leader, we have been led up

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the garden path at times, we need to be talking to the people that

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know what young people are feeling. I don't think there are many people

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there that would stand up and say my local leader is my MP. No, MPs

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are not local leaders, but there are people that don't see

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themselves as leaders but have a finger on the pulse of what is

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going on on the ground and had that has developed over time. There is a

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network including police officers and safer neighbourhood teams,

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officers on the ground, back together, can give in authentic

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picture of those locally specific situations where the Government

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needs to look at this rather than going for slogans. Is the great

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potential to do this. The police will say we have no resources we

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cannot be community operas as well as an forces. Where will the

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impetus come from? We mean informing government policy and

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some measure of understanding from the people on the ground that know

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what the situation is and what the problems are and what to do about

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it, as opposed to knee-jerk solutions that will appeal to

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certain sections of the electorate and which make even forfeit taking

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measures necessary if it is likely to be unpopular with the electorate.

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There are also long-standing problems on the problem is,

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politicians looking at the short term are not up for situations that

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will not turn around overnight. We are talking about generational

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problems in many areas and politicians are not necessarily

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interested in investing in a time where resources are short in long-

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term measures that will turn this around. Thank you. Apologies for

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using Jeffrey Butts at the start of The commander of US forces in

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Afghanistan says the Taliban insurgents who shot down a US

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helicopter on Saturday have been killed. There's been no word from

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the Taliban on the incident. A statement by the International

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Security Assistance Force says there were "multiple intelligence

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leads and tips from local citizens" about the identity of those who

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shot down the Chinook - killing all 38 on board. From Washington, Steve

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Kingstone reports. The final homecoming. A military

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transport plane touches down at Dover Air Force Base, bearing the

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remains of 30 American soldiers, most of them a lead Special forces.

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A sobering moment for the Commander in Chief, who would spend more than

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an hour in private with grieving families before saluting the dead.

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Together, the single biggest loss of life in America's longest wall.

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In the mountains of Wardak province, investigators have sealed off the

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crash site while the wreckage of the downed helicopter is retrieved.

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Today, the Americans made a point of revealing that those responsible

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have themselves been killed. A poll so many midnight on 8th August, the

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coalition forces killed the Taliban in surgeons responsible for this

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attack against the helicopter, which process was an RPG round.

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This does not ease are lost, but we must and we will continue to run

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and thus to pursue the enemy. All across Afghanistan, the insurgents

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are losing. The general said two insurgents were killed by an air

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strike. Later, the Taliban insisted the man who had fired upon the

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Chinook was a live and already fighting elsewhere. 22 of the

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American dead when AVCs seals from the same unit that killed Osama Bin

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Laden. They operate in the shadows, but in death some are being

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remembered publicly the stock Alan Vaughn was 30 and a father of two.

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I heard the door bell ring and I thought it was just a neighbour. I

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came upstairs and I saw my father opening the door and then coming

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inside in uniform and I just fell to my knees. The energy, everything

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just drops out of you and I just remember saying, no. Some are

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asking why the Navy SEALs were asked to make such a vulnerable

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landing given that American lives were not under threat on the ground.

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Special forces are likely to play an even greater role in the war as

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the President shrinks by 10,000 the overall troop numbers by the end of

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the year. These deaths have posed new questions about the

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Afghanistan's tragedy at a time when the President is desperate to

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focus on matters here at home. But it may not be a turning point

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because many Americans had already concluded the war is unwinnable.

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There is a new warning today on the drought in the Horn of Africa. The

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latest assessment by a network of experts is that it will last for a

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few months more. Already the harsh conditions in Somalia have seen

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116,000 people flee into neighbouring Kenya since the

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beginning of the year. This latest influx has put a strain on the

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refugee camp at Dadaab - already home to 300,000 Somalis who fled

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drought and civil war in the 1980s. As George Alagiah reports, 20 years

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of aid to the refugees has raised For a few hours every day, the

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children on section M6 can pretend they are like children everywhere.

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The play room cocoons them from a harsh world. The Make believe

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houses they built Ari million miles from their reality. And the country

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-- in the country -- and the country well-meaning aid workers

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encourage them to believe is largely fiction. In fact, Abdullahe

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and his brother Bushar were born here and never went to Somalia.

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Their parents left the country 20 years ago.

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Would you like to go to Somalia? The answer is No. Their parents say

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it is a bad place. This massive aid operation sustains 300,000 people

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who fled the Somali conflict of the 1990s, and they have never gone

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back. They need help, but they are not starving. Three out of every

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four people you see in the camp have got nothing to do with the

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current crisis. In some cases, they have been collecting their rations

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like this for a decade and more. It is a graphic reminder that there is

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a much deeper problem at work than this year's drought on loan. -- a

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loan. It begs a question. Is all this aid solving a problem or

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simply prolonging it? This man, who has been years since 1992 has an

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answer, though it is not one for the faint-hearted. -- this woman.

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TRANSLATION: Let the eight bees stop -- let the eight be stopped,

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then we will have to go back home. Some will die but we will find a

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solution. Over the years compart some Dadaab refugee camp have begun

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to look more and more like a town. There are markets, mechanics, even

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a juice maker. It has its own economy driven in part by the aid

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that flows in. Effigies sell a part of their Russian and spend what

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they get at one shop with other traders. -- Refugees sell a part of

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their rations. TRANSLATION: Of course it would be better to own a

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business in our own country. But there is a war going on in Somalia.

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And the failure to solve Somalia's deep-seated crisis drives a new

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generation across the border. Another book -- mother building

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another shelter in this no-man's land of hopelessness.

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Police in Karachi admits nearly 60 arrester crackdown on ethnic

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violence. The Pakistani city has a population of 18 million, of which

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around a third of Pashtun migrants from the Terblanche north-west.

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Their differences are with the Urdu-speaking majority. The

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violence has killed an estimated 300 people in the past month.

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These people are trying to come to terms with the violence that has

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suddenly changed their lives. Over recent weeks, people from the area

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have been killed just because of their ethnicity. This man tells us

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how this 16-year-old brother was abducted while selling sunglasses.

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His body was found hours later. He had been tortured and shot. This

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man's brother has also been killed. He takes us has close as he dares

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to what has become a new battle zone. This is a community of ethnic

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Pashtuns, originally from north- west Pakistan. Across the main road

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is an area where a community of reduced because lives. He says they

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have often been fired on by gunmen positioned on the routes there. And

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over the last two months, front lines like that have opened up

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across this vast city. The two ethnic groups, Pashtun is and Urdu

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speakers driven by the political parties that claim to represent

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them and are now engaged in a fierce fight over control of

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Karachi. It is a fight that is -- has often pitted neighbour against

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neighbour. For this household, the armed attackers came from next door.

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They broke down this wall and then the gunmen are streamed into the

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home. They terrorised the family and looted the place as well. The

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family fled as it came under gunfire. It can see the Pollitt

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holes up the wall. Then the home was set on fire and all this

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because these neighbours were from different ethnic groups. In this

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area it is the Urdu speakers who say they are being targeted by a

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Pashtuns. The two describe how they have come under fire from gunmen in

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the neighbouring air -- area up on the whole. This Thirteen-year-old

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were shot in the legs by a Pashtun sniper as she tried to take a

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younger brother and sister to safety. Children here have to learn

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quickly about the ethnic divide. TRANSLATION: Are people cannot go

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into their area and their people cannot come into ours. This is how

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it has become. They hate it has grown so much that our children now

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don't want to meet people from that side. As more areas get marked out

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by the group they belonged to, there is a fear of much more

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bloodletting to come. A new way of seeing art - a chance

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to actually walk through the canvas. That's the idea of the

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international designer Ron Arad. He's constructed a giant circular

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screen out of thousands of rods for London's Roundhouse and a season of

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video and stage performances. David It is when the curtain falls that

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the show begins. This circular screen made of 5600 silicon rods

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was produced by one of the superstars of international design,

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Ron Arad. It would form the centrepiece for a series of

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installation videos and concerts. It has interactive element. You can

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touch the curtain, you can go in, you can go out. The idea was to do

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something that will allow people to be more than just a passive

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spectator. Some people will be completely taken by the content and

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they won't care much about the sculpture or the installation. Some

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other people will just maybe miss some of the content and will be

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thrilled by the sculptural spatial installation. His Curtain Call

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takes the round House back to its creative agitprop beginnings of the

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1960s. It offers the audience a chance to be part of the

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experimental. Mat Collishaw invites us for a trek through a tropical

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video landscape poisoned by disease. The fact that there were hanging 10

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drawls that the curtain consisted of these, lent itself to the idea

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that you could be walking through a tropical environment where you had

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the Leeds and various forms of plant life hanging and you were

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walking through these creepers as you went through it. So that lent

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itself quite what to my project. Damn it accompanied by the sound of

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drums, which were kind of suggesting that maybe there was

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some great sin going on, that we had disturbed our ancestors in some

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kind of way and that there was a spirit coming back to haunt us.

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it is a challenging backdrop of live musical performance as well.

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don't hold with the whole thing of people saying classical music is

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for more. It is not. But moving to a new venue with new surroundings

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and this amazing installation will certainly throw some light on the

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performance of Bach and Britain. The Curtain Call Project ignores

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the ideas and restrictions of the fine art world. It allows us to

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walk through the artist's computerised canvas.

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It's different. A reminder of our main news. The British Prime

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Minister David Cameron has promised that the police will get all the

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resources they need to prevent further rioting and looting after

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four night of violence in English cities. He said a fightback is

:26:28.:26:32.

under way. More than 800 suspects have been arrested in London,

:26:32.:26:37.

hundreds more elsewhere, with Mr Cameron promising they will be more

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arrests to follow, courtesy of CCTV images, which the police are still

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working their way through. That's all from the programme. Next

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the weather. But for now from me, David Eades, and the rest of the

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It was dry across southern parts of the United Kingdom today, but

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further north there was a lot of rain. It is central Scotland

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bearing the brunt of the heavy and persistent rain. There is a net of

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his amber warning for rain. Be prepared for the risk of stream and

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river flooding as the rain continues. An area of low pressure.

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Further rain into Thursday across central Scotland. There will be a

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band of rain across southern areas. Still very breezy across northern

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England. Early rain will give way to a few breaks in the cloud across

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north-east England in the afternoon and an area of showers speeding

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across south-eastern areas behind that area Rana moves through during

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the morning. A lot of cloud elsewhere across England and Wales.

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Some breaks from time to time. A muddy field to the weather, breezy,

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and every now and then you will get a pulse of rain and showers. For

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Northern Ireland, a good deal of cloud around to begin the day but

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hints of brightness developing later on. But it is dull rainy

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across the central swath of Scotland. A wet day to come in

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