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This is BBC World News Today with me Philippa Thomas.


Tripoli is filled with gun fire. Thousands celebrate, but Gaddafi


loyalists remain in control in some neighbourhoods.


They are now firing rockets. You can hear one going in now.


Wanted. Dead or alive. Rebels offer rewards to anyone who captures or


kills Colonel Gaddafi. The leader pledges martyrdom or victory.


More than 30 foreign journalists trapped in Tripoli's Rixos Hotel in


recent days are now free to leave. The rebels are taking the upper


hand in the fighting, but who will take political control? We look at


in-fighting that could dominate Good evening.


Libyan rebels have offered an amnesty and around $1.5 million for


anyone who captures or kills Colonel Gaddafi. They have


consolidated their grip on the capital Tripoli. Last night they


managed to overrun Colonel Gaddafi's compound, but the


embattled leader was not there. He has since broadcast a defiant


speech, saying his decision to leave the compound was a "tactical


retreat" and vowing to return victorious or die a martyr. For all


the very latest let's cross live to Lyse Doucet in Tripoli. There had


been intense clashes. However, there were some intense


celebrations. We were in Martyr Square, a place where many had


gathered. We are expecting families together there again to proclaim


this is a free Libya. But last night saw one of the most decisive


battles in what has been a six- month long battle for the control


of Libya. As we enter Gaddafi's compound, it


is obvious there is still fighting going on. Yesterday's liberation


has not cleared all the diehard loyalists out. And this is about to


get a lot more intense. So the rebels were driven back out of the


centre of the compound this morning, back out to the outer wall. They


have just stormed back in. They are now firing rockets into the middle


of the compound. You can hear one To the left. This day! Stay! Once


again, the assumption that the fighting is over is premature.


Gaddafi's compound is a fortress with lots of tunnels and bunkers.


This man believes Gaddafi is hiding underground. Do you think he is


still in there? If you asked me about what I think, I do not think


he is here. However, there are a lot of tunnels. He built the


compound for this day, to stay running away from people. A but


until Gaddafi is found, some here still won't dare to believe his


dictatorship is really over. So when will you feel free? When I see


the blood of Gaddafi on the road. Then I will be Frene! -- free!


by the seat, we got a prince inside the life of the Gaddafi clan. This


is the summer house of one of his sons. In one bedroom alone we found


tens of thousands of pounds worth of designer clothing and shoes.


When you see all these expensive things here, this is the problem.


This is why the revolution has happened. Seen this will confirm


what most Libyans have already expected - that the Gaddafi clan


led alight of bulk or luxury and until they are called, this


revolution will not be over. -- led a life of vulgar luxury.


There was an audio message from Gaddafi this morning. Now there is


a bounty on offer - more than �1 million for killing of capturing


the man who imposed his politics on this country. Held by the fact that


it is an oil-rich state. The hunt is on for the colonel. The rebels


say the battle is not over until Gaddafi is found. I will do all I


can to put him in a cage. The pro- Gaddafi TV channel was still trying


to rally his troops, even as rebels took over his compound. From the


man himself another audio message for of defiance and delusion.


TRANSLATION: I walk through Tripoli by incognito. Nobody recognised me.


The City is not in danger. He even claimed to have walked incognito in


the capital where today we found many areas deserted and lifeless.


Some believe he made be below ground in a bunker. Others believe


he fled Tripoli for his home town. It is clear that Colonel Gaddafi


can never have ruled the streets again, but he had an iron grip on


this city and this country for more than 40 years and that has left its


mark. Even now after everything that has happened, some are still


afraid to speak about him. By the sea shore, some were escaping


detention. We approached three families here. None were prepared


to be interviewed. Then we met this family - professionals who spend


half their time in Britain and were not afraid to wear for in Libya's


new day. I am celebrating and I am happy because I am thinking about


my children. I think about their future and the future of Libya.


Everybody's future. There was no future before. The children of the


Gaddafi era of finding a new voice. We could speak freely to each other


on the phone and we could mention Gaddafi and took against him. It


was the first time. Other than that, we have all been talking before in


a coded way and not that directly. We evening, Martyr Square downtown


becomes a place of celebration. Where ever Colonel Gaddafi may be


hiding, he cannot undo this. -- wherever. Another building that


came under rebel control was the luxury Rixos Hotel.


We seem to have lost contact. We will try to go back to that report


to give you the latest from Tripoli. We will try again now. We lost


power here. This whole area has been plunged into darkness. There


is no electricity. We are being powered by a generator. It is an


extraordinary day here in the capital.


More than 30 foreign journalists who had been trapped by pro-Gaddafi


fighters in a Tripoli hotel since Sunday have been freed. The Rixos


Hotel is just a couple of miles from Colonel Gaddafi's compound.


Amongst them was a BBC team of five, including our correspondent Matthew


Price. He's been speaking to his BBC colleague Wyre Davies about the


ordeal. We had no idea this was going on. The TV has been of


because of the electricity. We had no idea Tripoli was like this. We


even had some newspaper journalist come into the hotel asking why we


were still there. The reason we were still there is because we had


two gunmen, loyal to Colonel Gaddafi, who still believe the City


could be won by a Colonel Gaddafi's forces. They said they had been


ordered to keep us inside to keep a safe. I mean, it was remarkable


that they still believed all of that, despite what was happening


around them. Has the net closed on Gaddafi? Were there are times --


were there times with the armed guards where you felt -- Fiat for


the words? Yes. -- feared for the worst. The next day was more


frightening. On Monday morning we were cut and there were gunmen in


the hotel that we had not seen before. -- we were Cup. They mainly


left alone. We had to start stockpiling suppliers. We did


wonder how safe we were. Organisations like the media, the


BBC, they are seen as the enemy. However, we did feel that there


might not be a threat... But the government was using the hotel as a


cover. They were broadcasting state television from the hotel and


monitoring your communications. Did you ever feel that you might be


used as human shields as the last defence of a regime is desperate.


Yes. The hotel is a B complex. I got a one. On Monday where I


thought to have won a second, they are going to use this as a barracks


for the Army for one last stand and if they do that, what will happen


to Wells? That is when all be journalists started sleeping out in


the same corridor, knowing that if we needed to, we could run into a


save run. However, we found her we had no viable escape route. We did


not know what was going on and that the majority of the streets were in


rebel control. Well, Colonel Gaddafi's reign comes to were


violent end and a new order has to be built from scratch. The National


Transitional Council were meant to come here today, but they have


decided to wait. We go to our Correspondent in Benghazi. What was


the reason for the delay? opposite - that the obvious one. It


is not secured. There has been cautioned from the leadership of


the opposition. That is in contrast to the celebrations on the street.


In Gaddafi's birthplace, he has got a lot of resources. Many are still


loyal to him and are not really under threat from the rebel army.


There is a lot of work left to do and today has been an


acknowledgement of the over exhilaration of the weekend. The


opposition are not quite ready to be the four governments but this


country. We understand that there is a conference on September 1st.


What will be a rebel leadership be looking for from the outside


community? The first thing is cash, frankly. It has been an ironic


situation. They need money. In the long-term though, this country is


They will have enormous amounts of support and goodwill. They may need


technical assistance, for example, the training of the police force


and things like that. We have not The sun has set on yet another


extraordinary day here. Down in Green Square the rallying cry is


free Libya. There have been shouting at Colonel Gaddafi is dead


in Arabic. But where is he? There is now a bounty on his head of more


than �1 million for capturing the man who has dominated, personalised


and abused hip -- abused power here for 42 years. This is a city which


is still uncertain and dangerous. The most intense clashes have been


taking place -- place through the day. Libyans a weight something new


and different now. They are telling us they will be patient. They will


clearly expect something different. Robert Hunter is former US


ambassador to NATO, and Director of Middle East Affairs in the Carter


administration. He's now at the National Defense University in


Washington. I asked him if NATO's Libya mission can been called a


success. I think you have to say it has been because it did provide air


support of the rebels under the guise of simply protecting


civilians. But NATO where the air power. But the Libyans themselves


on the ground made an effective combination. So this was something


to be supported. There were no defections, nobody backed away from


it. I think NATO made a definite critical difference. In the past


you were critical of European powers within NATO, in Bosnia


especially, for doing too little, too late. Have they redeem


themselves with Britain and France at the forefront here? -- redeemed.


I was critical of the US at the start when we held back and only


provided a certain kind of support function rather than active


military engagement and left it to the Europeans. But in retrospect I


think this will increase the reputation of European allies in


this country, including with the Congress and the administration.


The Europeans took the lead. Everybody but Germany. They made a


success of it and that was used for to the alliance. It is a useful


precedent for Washington, isn't it? At a time were it is hard to make


the case for intervention overseas. We are still fighting two was


directly in Afghanistan, very unpopular. -- walls. It is coming


up to the 10th anniversary of 9/11, everybody wants to get out of Iraq


as soon as possible, we are still fighting there. The idea of going


in with boots on the ground and Libya was very unpopular. So what


the Europeans have done on this will go down well, I think.


there a sense in which the Europeans have come to the rescue


of President Obama? His hands are tied. He was the anti-war candidate,


making the case for intervention in Libya, was not a popular one.


not think it is very rescuing the President because he was prepared


to do things even more than some of his administration. But the fact


that the Europeans did this has helped to validate the


transatlantic relationship, to validate the use of NATO and show


that the US has partners on whom we can rely. To that extent it has


been very good for the President. What do you think NATO's role


should be post conflict? At this stage it is to continue with air


power but the real challenge is when the fighting stops. I think


everybody in Europe and the US have to understand that responsibility


for what happens in North Africa will go on for a long time. There


are problems of immigration, potential violence, terrorism, of


instability on the northern shores of North Africa. It means nobody


can walk away from this. It will be expensive, time-consuming. We are


in it for the long haul. We have no choice. Ghazi Gheblawi is a Libyan


writer and blogger, living and working here in London. He joins me


now. I can see how happy you are about the news that has come


through. Are you now getting a flood of communication from people


who were unable to speak? Quite a few. Some of them who have been


detained for long periods of time and have been released. And also


people we were speaking to but we were not speaking out loud, off


really. -- or with any freedom. We were speaking in code. People have


started to communicate now. It is amazing that the new government is


giving out credit for mobile services for people to contact


You get every sense from people you speak to that there is jubilation,


a sense of freedom, they can speak out loud with no problem. There is


also the psychological factor. You were saying yourself, you get used


to having a double personality in this kind of situation. For example,


for myself, and other writers, they would write and publish in the


state media and sometimes they could not say what they really


wanted. Sometimes they could not publish what they wanted so they


needed to publish it in the outside world. Some of them would write


something that is quite damning to the regime before, and they would


publish it outside in a place that the regime could not reach. At


least they could get it off their chest. But in the country itself,


when you sit with your family there is complete opposition to the


regime. I speak from personal experience, we have a family, we


are all in opposition for a long time. Libyan people have been


unable to speak out and reach out, but there is also the fact that we


have not been able to understand as much as we would like to, and now


rising look at what the NTC my doing running Libya, there is this


they're that be could oversimplify it? -- There is a fear we could


It is a normal country but it has a unique culture and history and


background. And sometimes the media has been criticised that they


sometimes look at things as superficial, as we saw in the


tragedy of Rixos Hotel. Many people were fed propaganda from the regime.


The media fell into it. We look at East and West with Libya, but it is


more than that, it is a mosaic of people. Of course. My father was


born in the mountains, I was born in Tripoli, I know lots of families


from the east and west. The mother is from Misrata, the father from


Benghazi, someone else from Tripoli, but they live in the middle of this


country. It is not about East and West, there is no division you can


distinguish. For example, Tripoli is a metropolis. All the tribes are


there, the people from every place. You're an optimist believe in one


government can pull these people together? There is a big hope that


will happen. What the regime did was not include all the Libyan


people. There was a minority of the people of Libya who were involved


in this regime. Now we are trying to make it more exclusive. It is a


difficult task. It is a big challenge but at the same time


people will be given positions because of their merit, not because


of their loyalty to a regime, or a government. An opportunity but a


challenge. Thank you for coming to speak with us. Now a look at some


of the day's other news... Russian investigators have detained a


former police officer on suspicion of organising the murder of Anna


Politkovskaya. The reporter, who was renowned for her criticism of


the Kremlin and her coverage of the Chechen conflict, was killed five


years ago. The former officer was arrested on suspicion of hiring a


contract killer. Russia says North Korea is ready to resume


international talks on ending its nuclear programme. On his first


visit to Russia in almost a decade, the North Korean leader Kim Jong-il


The talks also covered Russia's plan to build a gas pipeline to


South Korea through the North. American and European officials at


the UN have drawn up a draft resolution calling for


international sanctions against the Syrian government. It condemns


human rights abuses by security forces against anti-government


protesters. But Russia, which has a Council veto, said it was not the


right time to target President Assad with sanctions. Hurricane


Irene has strengthened to a major Category 3 storm as it approaches


the US east coast. Irene brought torrential rain and strong winds to


the Dominican Republic, and cut Thank you for staying with us.


After the showers today heavy rain spread up from south-west England


through the Midlands, reaching Yorkshire and Lincolnshire later.


Once that clears, some sunshine but also heavy showers. Low pressure is


the driving force. This weather front is the troublemaker, the


energy that runs along that overnight gives the heavy rain.


Tomorrow, heavy and thundery bursts of rain. Eventually, by the end of


the afternoon most of it has gone. A few lingering showers and


thunderstorms. Most places should turn drier. Don't expected to be


particularly warm. -- expect it to be. Good sunshine through Central


England into the Midlands. But into Wales, slow-moving showers. You


could get some storms after another, whereas just down the road you


could stay dry. If you get caught in one of these showers you will


know about it. A scattering of heavy showers in Northern Ireland,


some showers with sunshine in between in Scotland. Thicker cloud


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