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This is BBC World News Today with me Tim Willcox. What provoked this

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man, Nordine Amrani, to carry out his bloody gun and grenade rampaged

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in Belgium? We talk to a criminal expert.

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The President of the United States, and Mrs Obama! Drawing a line under

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the Iraq War. President Obama welcomes US troops home and

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remembers those who made the ultimate sacrifice. Today we pause

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to say a prayer for all those families who have lost loved ones.

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They are part of our broader American family and we agreed with

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them. -- agreed with them. UK

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unemployment reaches a 17 year high. 2.64 million people are out of work,

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including record numbers of young people.

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Also coming up in the programme: Egypt goes back to the ballot box

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with Islamist parties battling it out for dominance in Parliament.

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What will this mean for the country?

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And, 100 years to the day since he became the first person to reach

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the South Pole. Celebrations there in honour of the Norwegian explorer

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Hello and welcome. He was a convicted criminal with convictions

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for drugs and arms offences, and today questions are being asked in

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Belgium about how 33-year-old Nordine Amrani was able to obtain

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more weapons to carry at yesterday's deadly attack in Liege.

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Granted early release last year, Amrani attacked a busy square with

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grenades and gunfire. Among those killed was an 18 month-old toddler.

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More than 120 people were injured. He then turned the gun on himself.

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The body of a female cleaner with a bullet wound to the head was later

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found in his garage. You are looking at the killer of Liege.

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Nordine Amrani. A gun fanatic, now turned mass-murderer. Here, they

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will never forget the day he entered their world. The day he

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ended several lives and ruined dozens more. John Michell is one of

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many school children caught up in the attack. He was shot in the hip.

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His friend was killed. TRANSLATION everybody ran. Everybody was

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panicking. I heard gunshots. I felt. I had been hit, but I managed to

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get onto the bus. These were the scenes moments after one of

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Amrani's grenades had exploded. At least one teenager died on the spot.

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More than 120 people were injured. This is the vantage point that,

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just 24 hours ago, Nordine Amrani chose for himself. He would have

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known that he had the potential to kill and injure vast numbers of

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people. He threw three grenades do was the bus shelters, and then

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started firing upon the crowds below. And then, just up there, the

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police say he shot himself. His killing spree had started even

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earlier. Today, the police said they had found the body of a

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cleaner in Amrani's garage. He had shot her. Up the road, his home,

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with a string of weapons, drug and sex offences - the police knew him

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well. The bullet scars now are a source of fascination and horror.

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The glass will be repaired, the buses are moving again. Life goes

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on. But not for 17 month-old Gabriel. His mother heard a bang

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saw his eyes rolled back in his head. I wish I had died instead of

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him, she said. Joining me now via Skype is

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professor of psychology at the University of Huddersfield, David

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Canter. A convicted criminal with gun and

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drugs convictions. Should the warning signs have been read, or

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were they impossible to read? think the warning signs should have

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been read. It is very unusual in this sort of killing spree for them

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not to be some earlier indications that the individual was building up

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for himself some sort of idea or plan, or had some sort of deep

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revenge or hatred that he was going to try and act out. It was executed

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very methodically, very calmly. There are reports now that he was

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frightened about being returned to prison. Is that normally a time

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when social services would step in to gauge what sort of risk they

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offered? Well, there would be many indicators that various authorities

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would have been alert to, but perhaps not acted on. Be details

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will emerge over the next few days and weeks of exactly what was going

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on in the background. The fact that a body has now been found of

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somebody he seems to have shot earlier on is an indication that he

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was going out on a path - he was developing some sort of plot for

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himself of what he was going to do, and that first killing was the

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starting point for him. And this, of course, is different from a

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moment of madness were somebody just cracks. Very different. This

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individual, as we find in many other cases, had been planning this

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for some time. He had amassed an Arsenal with which to carry out

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these attacks. Why would anyone keep grenades? Not for any

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recreational use - this was a person who had clearly thought a

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lot about what he was going to do. Without doubt, people will find

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some indication in his personal possessions, on the internet, some

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indication that he had been thinking of doing this for some

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time. He had been released early on parole. How difficult is it to spot

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any of these warning signs? It is difficult to decide which warning

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signs need to be taken seriously because there are so many different

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sorts of warning signs, and so many individuals who are likely to

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exhibit them. And also, any free society, what can you do about it

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if a person is, under the law, allowed to be out on parole?

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Clearly, it's the sort of weaponry he had amassed was something that

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people should have looked at very closely.

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Thank you for joining us on the programme. Now a look at some of

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the day's other news. The Chinese authorities have sealed off roads

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into a village in the southern province of Guangdong where land

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rights protests have intensified after the death of a villager in

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police custody. Residents of Wukan said most food supplies had been

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blocked. Villagers accuse local officials of illegal land grabs.

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The Pakistani president, Asif Ali Zardari is to be discharged from

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hospital in Dubai in the next 24 hours. He had been admitted last

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week because of a heart problem. So far, officials have refused to say

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when Mr Zardari will be returning to Pakistan.

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At least 48 people have died in the Indian state of West Bengal after

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drinking contaminated illegally brewed liquor. More than 100 others

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are being treated in hospital in Calcutta, many in a critical

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condition. Death from contaminated alcohol is relatively common in

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India. President Obama has been welcoming

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home of some of the last US troops to a return home from Iraq.

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Speaking at Fort Bragg in North Carolina he described it as an

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historic moment and praised the soldiers' courage and

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professionalism in a war that he said had paid a heavy price in

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Death And When Did. Barack Obama never wanted this war.

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As a state senator he called it dumb, but as Commander In Chief,

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today he paid tribute to his troops. All the fighting and all the dying,

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the bleeding and the building and the training, all of it has led to

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this moment of success. Iraq is not a perfect place, but we are leaving

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the FA -- behind a more stable and self-reliant Iraq. It was almost a

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victory lap, if only because as President help Karen --

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Presidential candidate he promised to bring all the troops home.

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Unlike President Bush, though, he kept it low key and there was no

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mission accomplished. What has started with shock and awe and a

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quick invasion turned into a long, costly and divisive war with its

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defining moments. The brief euphoria, the demise of a dictator,

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the scandal of the prison. The war changed Iraq and America. 4,500

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American troops killed in nine years of fighting. More than

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100,000 Iraqi civilians dead. The violence continues to kill every

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day still in Iraq. One trillion dollars later, the last of

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America's military hardware is being shipped out. All the troops

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will be reunited with their families for Christmas. They leave

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behind considerable challenges. Iraqis will be tested without US

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troops. Will they rise to the occasion? Will the politicians

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operate against a common threat? Iraq's Prime Minister has close

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ties with Iran, America's foe. But at the White House this week, he

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assured President Obama he did want a post-war partnership with the US.

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Pardoning for regional security, just as Iraq has pledged not to

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interfere in other nations, other nations must not interfere in Iraq.

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Iraq's sovereignty must be respected. The future looks

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uncertain, but for a moment, the two leaders reflected on their

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country's shed painful past. America's war in Iraq may be ending

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in a few days, but soldiers will continue to be buried in this

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cemetery. Killed in combat in Afghanistan. It is often referred

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to these days as Obama's war, and that, too, is a conflict where

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success has been hard to define, and victory remains elusive.

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With the euro plummeting on the currency markets, German Chancellor

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Angela Merkel is insisting that Europe will not only master the

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financial crisis, but will end up stronger and more stable. Meanwhile,

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Britain is grappling with a rising unemployment rate. Figures show a

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rise of 128,000, making a total number of 2.64 million people out

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of work. Of that, the number of young people, those aged 16 to 24,

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rose to just over a million - the highest figure since records began

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in 1992. I'm joined now by Hugh Pym. Some pretty awful figures. Just

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looking at Britain - is this an indication that perhaps we us --

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are heading back into the the way it works in the labour market,

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generally the figures that you mentioned today, and any other

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period, lack behind output. We had a growing jobs market up until

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earlier this week, as the UK appeared to be recovering. That was

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reflected in activity last year. But slowing activity since the

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spring is reflected in these figures. Given that everyone is

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expecting a flat economic output situation this quarter, and may be

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slightly negative, it could well get worse from here. That is based

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on the fact that the Eurozone holds together. If there is a real crisis

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in the Eurozone hit in the UK that could make figures even worse.

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is striking in the Eurozone is the number of young people out of work.

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That is right across the sector, isn't it? Yes, indeed. Youth

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unemployment is experienced in most industrialised countries. It is a

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big problem in Spain, for example. It is a number of factors -

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everyone has had to grapple with the growth challenge. It is not

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just the UK. There is a demographic issue of people wanting to work for

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longer, and therefore fewer jobs being created for young people. It

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is a major international problem, particularly for industrialised

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nations. And it does lead to social problems later on, a lost

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generation. What about the private sector picking up the slack? It has

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been a big debate in the UK, will the private sector create enough

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jobs to compensate for cuts in the private sector -- public sector

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because of the austerity programme? It is deficit reduction which does

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involve numbers and the public sector coming down. Until earlier

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this year, the Chancellor of the Exchequer could save the private

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sector was doing more than enough to compensate. Not any more. The

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latest quarter until September, more than 60,000 job cuts in the

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public sector and only 5,000 created in the private sector. It

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is the same year on deer as well. - - year on year. So looking at more

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job cuts, these figures are probably going to get worse? Yes.

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The Government's official forecast at the Office for Budget

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Responsibility in the UK is forecasting the unemployment rate

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goes up to 8.7%, a couple of 100,000 extra. Almost every

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commentator agrees with that. Since the figure moved up from 2.64

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million closer to the 3 million figure, which will be politically

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very awkward. That is based on some growth in the UK. If the

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international picture changes dramatically, it could be worse.

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This is not a UK specific problem. UK unemployment is below France and

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the UK -- US. It is a major challenge for the British

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government, as indeed for every government in industrialised

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Egyptians have been voting in the second round of elections to a new

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Parliament, the first since President Hosni Mubarak was toppled

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in February. It is already clear that is almost

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parties have probably won enough support at the ballot box to be the

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largest single force in the new Parliament. So a new battle is

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developing between the Muslim Brotherhood, who are putting

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themselves forward as moderate and pragmatic, and the more hardline

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Salafist, who have strict views on banning alcohol and segregating men

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and women in some public places. They have stepped up campaigning

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after their success in the first round of elections. And now voting

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has moved to the Nile delta, fertile territory for their blend

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of religion and politics. This area is a classics Islamist stronghold.

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They are expecting a clean sweep in the elections. So the real battle

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is between two competing versions of Islamism. The old fashioned

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Muslim Brotherhood horror that hardline Saleh fists. In their

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increasingly slick campaign, the seller fists emphasise their

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beliefs. Egypt's liberals might be horrified but not here in the

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villages. We found the message is selling well. The candidate tells

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us his appeal is less about the implementation of Sharia law, more

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about the contrast with years of corruption and cronyism.

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TRANSLATION: We are honest. We're not hypocrites. We are not liars.

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We just tell people what we believe. And for these women, ideology seems

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the least of their concerns. TRANSLATION: We will call for you.

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But you must deliver more services to this area. What we really need

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is a storehouse for her cooking gas canisters. At their rallies, the

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Muslim Brotherhood are putting themselves forward as the moderate,

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pragmatic choice. The personal freedom of everybody is the core of

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our programme. Our intention is to try and spread the values in

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society by pursues thing -- by giving a good moderate line. The

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movement feared and demonised by Egyptian liberals could soon be

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working with them to keep with more and comprising a Islamists from

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power. Joining us is Dr Omar are sure.

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Looking at the report and the Salafist movement, how moderate do

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they make you Muslim Brotherhood look? They make them look quite

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moderate. The Muslim Brothers -- brotherhood are looking at checking

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the security services. Morale as looking for a powerful Parliament

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and not they are interested in polarising the society by imposing

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a Conservative agenda. This is how the Muslim Brothers won the world

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to perceive it, as putting a check on the more extreme versions and

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interpretations of Islam. Is there some surprise for the support for

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the sell-off this movement? Was there to change could that mean for

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Egypt in terms of tourism and its relations with its immediate

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neighbours? They have quite an elaborate move -- programme. They

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said they would support specific types of tourism, like to watch the

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monuments and the health tourism. They are not keen on supporting the

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beach tourism or there isn't a lot of debate about how they will

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enforce an Islamic court first see where. No bikinis and no alcohol?

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No bikinis and no alcohol. And what would it mean for religious

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tolerance in the country? There is a lot of fears. I think the

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critical issue is the balance of power in the street and how this

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will work. The Saleh fists of they have full power, they will be able

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to put out extreme policies. They do not want to see how mass like

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situation between the clash between the east and west like in Gaza. The

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junior Liberals and the Muslim Brothers who want to betray itself

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as the moderate alternative and tried to avoid it being linked to

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the sophists. Is there a pragmatic element with than the sulphurs

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movement as well. If they pushed too hard, the backlash could do

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them damage. This is a pragmatic group. Pragmatism is engraved in

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the ideologist. They supported Mubarak until the last days of his

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power. Many of them changed their political views, depending on what

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is the balance of power on the streets. So they can say something

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now and change it tomorrow. It is not a very... Began his criticise

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Al-Qaeda for being too rigid and not changing their ideology. In

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terms of pragmatism began says something to date and change it

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tomorrow. Thank you very much. Time magazine has named the

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protester as its person of the year. The US-based magazine said

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protesters around the world did not just voice their complaints, the

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change the world. The magazine's latest issue has air Arab woman

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demonstrator on its cover. This time it is true. At $10,500,000.

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Well, a collection of jewellery owned by the late Dame Elizabeth

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Taylor has fetch 74.9 million billion pounds. -- set -- Sunday

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$4.9 million.. One of the most outstanding

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achievements of mankind - the words of Norman's Prime Minister today

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paying tribute to the explorer Roald Amundsen, who led the first

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expedition to the South Pole. December 14th, 1920 11 marks the

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100th anniversary of that historic achievement as scientists and

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explorers have returned to the ball to pay their tribute.

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Music to celebrate one of the greatest feats of human endurance

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and bravery. An achievement 100 years ago today that still

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resonates with modern adventurers and scientists who joined the

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Norwegian Prime Minister at the South Pole in honour of the

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explorer Roald Amundsen. It was on December 14th, 1911 that Roald

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Amundsen became some of the first people to arrive at the

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southernmost of the blow. -- of the Paul. He was already well known and

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his home country, completing the first ever crossing of the North

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West passage five years earlier. And following the success at the

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South Pole, he cemented his position as a national icon by

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reaching the North Pole on board a ship in 1926. The first journey

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there to be verified and uncontested. Today, swapping his

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usual suit and tie for clothing more suitable for temperatures of

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minus 40, Jens Stoltenberg ski the final few kilometres to the poll,

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tracing their role -- the route taken by a Roald Amundsen and his

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team 100 years ago. They were the first people to arrive and the

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South Pole. But also to pay tribute to Scotland his men. They paid the

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ultimate price. -- captain Scotland his men. Today's ceremony was

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graced by a crystal blue sky, but earlier icy winds and low

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visibility had hampered many who had taught to retrace Roald

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Amundsen steps in time for this event. That did not dampen his

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sense of celebration for what had happened 100 years earlier.

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Let's go to Cambridge and speak to the author Roland Huntford.

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Describe how much an achievement this was. We should not

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underestimate what he was up against, should be? I think that

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their great achievement of Roald Amundsen was that he brought the

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age of terrestrial discovery to an end, that age that began in the

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reminiscence. I think this is basically what you should be

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remembered for. -- in the Renaissance. Why did he succeed and

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captain Scott did not? He succeeded because he was technically and

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intellectually these appear. By technically I mean his mastery of

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travel across snow. One must not forget that Roald Amundsen and his

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men regarded the race for the South Pole, not as a great adventure, but

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as the race. So their aim was to get there and to get back safely

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and with the least possible trouble. For Captain Scott, in terms of food

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supplies and other things, was that a classic case of some would say

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the British amateur approach to something like this? Absolutely.

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Because Roald Amundsen took great care to work with enormous margins

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of safety. I have tried working it out and I stopped at around five or

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600%. Obviously, captain Scott got further from base but it was never

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less than 30%. Captain Scott had no margin of safety at all which is

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basically what killed them. Just one quick statistic Das - when

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Roald Amundsen set off he had more or fuel per man than Scott did.

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terms of the importance for gnaw away, it has only recently become

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independent when this happened. When Roald Amundsen got to the

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South Pole, nor we had only been independent for six years. Roald

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Amundsen's achievement was to cement a feeling of national

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identity and also as it were to cement, to finish the movement, the

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nationalist movement... Thank you very much. Sorry to cut you short.

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We are out of time. From all of us Hello. For today we had some heavy

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showers around. As the clear through the night and when studies,

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by tomorrow morning we could have some problem with some widespread

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ice affecting northern areas of England. This area here will have

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the winds and temperatures tumbling away to allow the step up and.

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Further south, a squeeze in the isobars which will bring heavy

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showers first thing. Gusts of up to 80 mph. For many, the first half of

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Thursday is reasonably settled. A lot of dry weather around.

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Scattered showers through northern areas of Scotland. Not as heavy and

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frequent as today. Eastern areas will have a lot of sunshine. Light

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winds for many tomorrow, a lot of sunshine and highs of Six degrees.

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But do not let the fight in stark full year. We have the stormy

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weather gathering. As we head through the evening, heavy rain

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pushes through the south. Gales and the far South East. Some call their

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