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This is BBC World News Today with me Zeinab Badawi.

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Could France be about to lose its triple A credit rating? President

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Sarkozy holds crisis talks with ministers, as fears mount that the

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downgrade could place further pressure on the eurozone.

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Is the Pakistani government on a dangerous collision course with the

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military? Growing public tension but government ministers play down

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talk of a political crisis. you're referring to the recent

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whatever is going on in the country. It will not affect. In democracy we

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are in transition. So ups and downs will be there.

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Day five of protests in Nigeria over the scrapping of the fuel

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subsidy. Now the government makes an offer to the unions. Will it be

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enough? Also coming up in the programme,

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the increasing danger posed by space debris. The Russian space

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craft Phobos-Grunt should come crashing back to earth this weekend

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Hello and welcome. The value of the euro has fallen

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with more bad news for the eurozone. France is braced this evening for

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the possibility that its credit rating may be downgraded by the

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Standard & Poor's agency. Nicolas Sarkozy is reported to be in crisis

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talks with his ministers ahead of expected announcement. Fears over

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the eurozone debt crisis have also been heightened with talks between

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Greece and the banks it owes money to breaking down. Our chief

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economics correspondent Hugh Pym reports.

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2011 was the year to the good for the eurozone and the health of the

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single currency. Riots increase other government was facing

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crippling debts and tried to impose spending cuts and tensions over how

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to safeguard -- safeguard the euro but another blow is looming, the

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downgrading of France's credit rating. If they are downgraded, it

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will raise the cost of borrowing at France has to pay to markets. Above

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Germany and the UK, which have triple-A ratings, and it will be

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more difficult to rescue crew eurozone, although it may still be

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possible. Here are the key figures from the French economy which have

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worried the markets. Government debt is 90% this year. The deficit,

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new borrowing, 5.5%. The French government is currently having to

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pay more than 3% to borrow, while at the UK is below 2%. If France's

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credit rating is downgraded, the impact could be as much political

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as economic. Some see the triple A rating as a badge of national

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prestige, and are losing it, critics will argue could be seen as

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a major blow to President Sarkozy. In a year when he seeking re-

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election. Fears that France might be downgraded emerge before

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Christmas as Nicolas Sarkozy's relations with David Cameron cold.

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They criticised the UK finances. don't want to be given any lessons.

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The economic situation in Great Britain is very worrying and from

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an economic standpoint, we would prefer to be French and British.

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But its front which is firmly under a financial spotlight this evening.

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-- France. Speculation that one up ratings agency will make an

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announcement, and with talks with private investors and the Greek

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government over how to manage the burden having broken down, a

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familiar cloud is hovering over the eurozone.

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Let's talk more about this. Matthew price joins us. Does this look like

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it's going to happen? It's the sense we getting from French

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government officials. In the last few minutes, the French agency, AFP,

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is reporting yes, indeed, France is being downgraded by Standard & Poor

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and it fits with the general assumption, the general words

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coming out of Standard & Poor, the ratings agency, in the last few

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months, but they put France on a downgrade and add some point,

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expected they would do this. Yes, it looks like this is happening.

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Matthew, it's not just the fact it's been downgraded. It is the

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extent, the amount by which it has downgraded, which is also important

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for country. Absolutely. If France get downgraded at the next couple

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of hours, by one are not, it is manageable. It is difficult

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politically for President Sarkozy. And economically, it will almost

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certainly make a change. It will force up the French borrowing rate.

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It to probably wouldn't be catastrophic. It did get downgraded

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by two notches, you start to get into more uncertain territory, not

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just for France, but remember they are one of the key economic backers

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of the eurozone's current temporary rescue fund, but BFSS, and France

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is the second biggest backer of that fund. Germany is the biggest.

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That fund has so far also had a triple A rating. There are those

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concerned in Brussels tonight that if France gets downgrade it, so too

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will the euro zones temporary bail- out fund, and therefore that, too,

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will pile on the pressure. I can say that the wires have confirmed,

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according to the French finance minister, France indeed has lost

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its triple-A credit. That is indeed quite a blow to the country. It's

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not just an economic matter, but huge political tests for President

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Sarkozy. Ahead of this, but it's going to have shockwaves throughout

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the eurozone that such a major economy in the eurozone has lost

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its triple-A rating. Absolutely. The second biggest economy in the

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eurozone. One of the biggest economies in the world. Also, not

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just economically important within the eurozone, but vitally

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politically important as well. President Sarkozy and Angela Merkel

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had basically been a leading the way in terms of how Europe gets out

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of this mess. I think, what has been interesting, the French have

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been trying to bring in austerity measures that they felt they could

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get past the public in the run-up to the French elections in April

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and May. Measures they felt could get past the French public which

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would not be terribly unpopular, which wouldn't necessarily stop

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President Sarkozy getting re- elected but the same time, would

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satisfy the market and it clear I have not satisfied one of the

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ratings agencies. Matthew, thank you very much, with that news that

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France has lost its triple A credit rating.

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The political temperature in Pakistan is nearing boiling point.

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On Monday the ruling party faces a confidence vote. The prime minister

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Yusuf Raza Gilani told parliament it had to choose between democracy

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and dictatorship. A series of public disputes has brought

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relations between the government and the military to an all-time low.

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The Supreme Court could also get involved, with a deadline looming

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for the government to re-open political corruption cases. Here's

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A nation gripped by a political crisis. They have fallen heroes.

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The funerals today for two Pakistani policemen. Killed by

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militants. As well as battling that enemy, the government here is

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locked in conflict with the army and the Supreme Court. At

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Parliament, another crisis session. But Pakistan's Interior Minister

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insists the government will serve out its full term until 2013.

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democracy, we are in a transition. Ups and downs will be there. Yes,

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we had a bumpy flight but we will land in a nice way. Aren't you

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having a real crisis now with the army? Open speculation of a coup.

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would not say crisis, no. A difference of opinion. You can't

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say there is a distress going on. That we are not on the same page.

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Why are their statement between you and the army so hostile? I think

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everybody has a right to explain their position so let's put it in

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the normal way. Do you think this government will be in position next

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week? I say, in the 2013. Pakistan's Interior Minister is

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sending a message that the tension can be diffused and he is adamant

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the government will survive, but with the army and government

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engaging in Opal verbal warfare, some here are writing of this

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administration and are predicting Inside Parliament, an impassioned

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speech from Prime Minister Gilani. We have made mistakes, he said.

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That doesn't mean a democracy should survive. If the worst comes

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to the worst, we will go before the Are the army is on the warpath

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because of a memo sent to the Americans last May. Asking for help

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to rein in the generals. Pakistan's president of denies he was behind

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it. The tanks have not been sent in this time. But experts believe the

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army will try to get the government out by other means. Pakistan

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Supreme Court might do the job for it. It could disqualify the Prime

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Minister over a long-running corruption case. Judges will

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consider that on Monday. Joining me now from Oxford is

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Professor Ifitikhar Malik, a leading analyst on Pakistani

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politics. Collision course clearly between the ruling party and the

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military. Do you suppose that we are talking about a true

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confrontation here? I think there is an element of confrontation but

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I don't think there will be a military coup. The army generals

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Pope control Pakistan for most of its history, will try to neutralise

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opposition through their own technical weaknesses which are

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exposed when Osama bin Laden was murdered. And Iran incident

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happened, near the Pakistani naval base. And it became a vulnerable to

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attack from the Libyans. And politicians in the government will

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try to assert their authority, their control over a military

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institution, so there have been imbalances within Pakistan, the

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military has been calling the shots. The military does not want to take

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the back seat now. Politicians have of course made mistakes, but sadly,

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in Pakistan history, which is repeated, I think all the three

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major institutions, judiciary, army and the government, have to cool

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down the Temmerman, sit back and develop a consensus. We have a vote

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of confidence next week. The likely it is early elections.

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possibility is the opposition will come around to support the

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Government because if this government goes, the People's Party

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goes, the opposition will also go in the sense that the military will

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then commander position and then it might be another few years before

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another political government is established, so politics will be

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the loser and the judiciary, and the media and civil society will be

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losers, so let's hope history does not repeat itself. Let the system

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work, let the system and rectify its own problems. And that the

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politicians sit together and resolve these issues through the

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parliament. And I think the judiciary should other politicians

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resolve this conflict. Thank you very much. The Nigerian government

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says its maiden of the to the trade unions after five days of strikes

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over the scrapping of a petrol subsidy. The protests have been

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suspended for two days to allow more talks with the government.

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Tens of thousands of Nigerians have come out in protest since Monday

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after the removal of the fuel subsidy led to petrol prices more

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than doubling. Mike Wooldridge looks at the challenges facing the

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government of President Goodluck Jonathan.

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The immediate crisis is over the price of fuel. Nigerians are

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protesting against the removal of subsidies that at long kept prices

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low. The savings intended for badly needed road improvement and other

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public projects. But prices more than doubled overnight. Leading

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other costs to soar, as well. For many people, it's the last straw

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for the fuel subsidy represent a contribution to daily lives in a

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very difficult economic situation for a lot of Nigerians. Removing

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the subsidy is something which is seen to simply be quite unfair and

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it puts pressure on attack situation for Nigerians. But these

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protests come amid an even more serious crisis once again

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highlighted the North-South divide. In Africa's most populous nation.

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This is the leader of a radical Islamist groups, with its roots in

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the Muslim north. Its actions have led some Christians in the north to

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flee southwards to where Christians are in the majority. They are

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attacking and trying to provoke a tension between Muslims and

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Christians for that they have recently attacked churches, killing

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Christians for the as falling to Al-Qaeda, I don't think they have

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got a link. But I think it is very convenient for them and the

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government to claim that there is a link. A politically orchestrated

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violence is nothing new but over the last year, and rest has focused

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on the North Pole. These are the places where the group has carried

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out attacks and amid growing concerns about retaliation,

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violence has occurred in the south. Five people were killed in a mosque.

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New troubles all round for a nation that wants to be recognised for its

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huge economic potential, not least because of its oil. Nigeria has

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been pushed to the brink many times I have been joined in the studio by

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the Nigerian novelist and journalist, Mohammed Umar. These

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talks going on between the trade unions and the government, do you

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think we're going to see some kind of compromise emerged, that the

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government will have to shift a bit? I don't think so. I think this

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is the mother of all deadlocks. For the first time in history we have a

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position where the majority of the people are saying they don't like

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what is happening and the government is digging in. Even if,

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assuming that the Trade Union Congress and the Nigerian Labour

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Congress agree to one or two things come with the government, I don't

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think the mass protest will stop, so it is one thing for the trade

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union representatives to agree with the government, it is another thing

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for the people on the ground to stop protesting because if people

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started protesting before the trade union representatives took over the

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leadership. And the person taking the flak, very much President

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Goodluck Jonathan. They have even taken to calling him back look

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Jennison in Nigeria. Yes, it is rather unfortunate but someone has

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to take the blame. The level of corruption in Nigeria is

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unbelievable and it is not the corruption, it is the weird is

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displayed. There is no shame in the way they display the corruption.

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For example in the 2012 budget they said they would allocate 6.5

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million for food, for the President and the Vice President. It is

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obscene. So this is tapping into that is content. If the instability

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were to get further out of hand, could the army moving? That is an

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option, and dangerous scenario because something has to be done.

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Whatever happens in Nigeria will not remain in Nigeria. It is a big

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country, it cannot afford to fail. 150 million people, something has

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to be done to stabilise the situation. Mohammed Umar, thank you

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for coming to talk to us about the situation in your native Nigeria.

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Staying in Africa, in South Sudan, dozens of people are still being

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killed in tribal clashes and thousands are being displayed --

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displaced in the latest violence more than 50 people, mostly women

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and children, were killed on Wednesday in continuing tit-for-tat

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attacks and cattle raids between the Lou Nuer and Murle people in

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the state of Jonglei. Many people have fled the violence and are in

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urgent need of humanitarian assistance. We report from

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neighbouring nine -- neighbouring Nairobi.

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These are the people caught in the middle of South Sudan's cycle of

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violence, slowly returning home after fleeing for their lives when

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the tribe burnt their homes and stole their cattle. The aid

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agencies are left to pick up the pieces but with an estimated 60,000

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people living in camps or hiding in the bush, officials admit they are

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struggling to cope. Today we are operating four helicopters taking

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food into Gumarok, Tibor, to assist the population. It is not enough.

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We need more and much bigger helicopters that will be able to do

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this more efficiently. Ethnic tensions over cattle and territory

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in the region have existed for decades but the most recent

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violence started last August when Murle fighters raided Lou Nuer

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villages, killing 600 people, abducting children and stealing

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25,000 cattle. The lunar and retaliated in late December and

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early January with as many as 6,000 men attacking the main Murle town

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of Tibor. Extra UN peacekeepers and soldiers were rushed to the Urdd --

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to the area and it was declared a disaster zone. In the latest

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attacks the Murle struck back, raising -- raiding Lou Nuer

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villages killing at least 50 people and making off with thousands of

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cattle. All the violence is happening in a country which is

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just six months old. There was euphoria in March in South Sudan

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when it broke away from the north after years of civil war but it was

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a messy divorce and coursed tension with the North, which still exists,

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mainly over territory, division of money. The government of South

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Saddam must work hard to avoid a return to civil war but it must

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build bridges between the rival ethnic groups to keep this fragile

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country together -- South Sudan. The Chinese speaking world is

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gearing up for major political change this year. More than 60

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years on from the civil war that split China and Taiwan, both are

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facing leadership changes. In the autumn China will see its Communist

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Party select a new generation of leaders behind closed doors but

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just 100 miles offshore, Taiwan holds open and democratic elections

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this weekend. Many in China are watching closely as Damian

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Grammaticas reports from the Taiwanese capital, Taipei.

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Soaring above Taipei, the second tallest building in the world,

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built to put Taiwan, so long overshadowed by China, on the map.

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Today, its observatory is full of Chinese tourists. Curious about

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this island their country claims. Today, what they see is this, and

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noisy campaign, democracy happening in the Chinese world just 100 miles

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from China's shores. TRANSLATION: I have seen many banners and flags.

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It looks really interesting. We don't have anything like this in

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China. Taiwan has only just begun welcoming Chinese tourists after

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decades of separation. Two million came last year. This is Asia's

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biggest store. Christian Dior is building the biggest store in the

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world here, targeting the visitors and China's new spending power.

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Taiwan's president says the island has to open to China, to recognise

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its economic rise. He has made ending decades of its hostility his

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priority. What is the importance of that, of building closer relations

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with China? Peace, peace. PCS says, and prosperity. But at what price?

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The rise of China is leading to some really difficult questions for

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Taiwan. Does this island have any choice but to hitch its economic

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future to its giant neighbour? Well that ensure Taiwan's continued

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prosperity, or will it threatened the island's hard-won freedoms?

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Taiwan's opposition fears China could dominate Taiwan, threaten its

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democracy. China is a source of uncertainties for the region and

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for Taiwan as well. Since the civil war split, the two have taken very

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different paths. China insists it will take Taiwan by force if

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necessary. In China the political system remains frozen. President Hu

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Jintao will this way -- will this year make way for a new Communist

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leader to be chosen by the party in secret. But can Taiwan influence

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China? Yes, it can, says this man, who did -- Hutu decades ago was a

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leader of the pro-democracy demonstrations in Tiananmen Square.

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I have been hearing this so much from Chinese tourists, who say when

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will the day come for us so that we can choose? -- our own leaders?

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Communist Party says China is not ready or suited for democracy.

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Taiwan hopes its example can prove otherwise. Many here fear the

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independence they now enjoy could be crushed asked China rises.

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It was supposed to be heading to Mars to take rock samples from one

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of the Red Planet's moons but some time this weekend the Russian

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spacecraft -- spacecraft Phobos- Grunt is expected to come crashing

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back to earth following a serious malfunction. No one knows when it

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will return, or more importantly, where it will hit, but its imminent

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re-entry has highlighted the increasing danger of space debris

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as undersides correspondent David Shukman reports. -- as a science

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correspondent reports. A swarm of dots circling the Earth,

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15,002 are all rockets and other junk. An orbiting rubbish dump

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created after half-a-century of space flight. Last November a

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Russian launch added yet another piece of debris. The mission was

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meant to fly to Mars. We did get off the ground but something went

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wrong and now the Russians believe their spacecraft will crash back

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into the Indian Ocean. But no one can be sure. From experience it is

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difficult, almost impossible at this stage, to predict exactly when

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and where the object will come in. To be able to say at this stage you

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have to control the aircraft and we don't believe they have control of

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it. So what will happen to the spacecraft? It is orbiting every 90

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minutes between 51 degrees north and 51 degrees south, so it could

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land anywhere in between, most likely in the ocean. But the zone

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just includes southern England below the M4 corridor. Most of the

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spacecraft will burn up as it falls to earth but some components matter

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more than others. The tanks, filled with fuel for the long journey to

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Mars, should leak and burn off long before they reach the surface. The

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moment European spacecraft blew up while falling to earth. This was

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meant to happen and generally there is very little risk to anyone on

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the ground. The bigger danger is space junk damaging the satellites

:25:44.:25:50.

that we depend on. Anything, even as small as a cherry, going up

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17,500 miles an hour, which they are going around in orbit, but can

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be similar to an explosion of a hand grenade right next to your

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satellites and even a small pieces caused problems. The Russian

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spacecraft was designed to land on Bob Ross, and of Mars. -- on Phobos.

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It would have been a scientific triumph. Instead the world is now

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waiting for a crash. Let's hope that debris lands in the

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ocean. Now the main stories, which has

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been confirmed. While we have been on air. The French Finance Minister

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has confirmed that his country has lost its triple-A credit rating,

:26:32.:26:36.

the Standard and Poor's agency has cut fans's rating by an entire

:26:36.:26:45.

point to just do Belem. -- France. The finance minister has said there

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will be no new austerity measures despite the downgrade. Very

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disappointing news for France, Justin. Next, the weather. From me,

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Zeinab Badawi, goodbye and enjoy Hello, you got the idea today. Keep

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the thought in your head. It is the sort of weather we will get through

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the weekend. A widespread frost tonight but tomorrow the first

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lifts and we will get spells of bright winter sunshine in most

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areas. High pressure dominating the scene across the UK, keeping the

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mild Atlantic air at bay. It will be the case over the weekend and

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into the early part of next week. The frost clears. There will be fog

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which will take a little time to clear that it should eventually go.

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Patchy cloud at times in the west of the UK but across northern

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England and the eastern side of England, long spells of sunshine

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into the afternoon. Not particularly warm. Six Celsius in

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London, near the January average. More of a breeze across south-west

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London -- across south-west England and Wales, just drifting some cloud

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through. Keeping temperatures higher, seven or eight Celsius.

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Across mid-Wales, temperatures stay below freezing. The Northern

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Ireland, not a bad day, the cloud will break up to allow spells of

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sunshine through but the breeze will make it feel chilly, coming in

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from the south-east. Six Celsius. Cloud across western Scotland and

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across the higher ground temperatures remaining below

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