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His is BBC World News Today with me, Philippa Thomas. Silvio Berlusconi

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tells supporters it is a day of mourning for democracy. Britain

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risks being seen as "nasty country", so says an EU commissioner, as David

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Cameron vows to limit the number of EU migrants working in Britain and

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receiving benefits. Also coming up: We will be live in Sao Paulo were at

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least two people have been killed at a football stadium. A dinosaur

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nicknamed Misty sells at auction. We'll tell you just how much she's

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worth. Hello and welcome. He's been kicked out of the Italian Senate but

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vows that he's not finished with Italian politics yet. Silvio

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Berlusconi, three times a Prime Minister, a multi-billionaire media

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tycoon, and convicted tax evader, today faced the humiliation of his

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fellow politicians voting him out of parliament with immediate effect.

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Silvio Berlusconi's supporters were there - not in the Senate - but

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spilling across the streets outside his Roman palazzo, where their hero

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told them this is a day of "mourning for democracy."

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We must not this further that the leader is no longer the senator.

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There are other leaders of parties who are not Members of Parliament.

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Even if one is not a Member of Parliament, one can continue to

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fight for our freedom. He is saying his career may not be

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over yet. Let's take a quick look at Signore Berlusconi's colourful,

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controversial political career. Silvio Berlusconi been Prime

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Minister three times since 1994 - in fact, Italy's longest serving Prime

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Minister since World War II. But the media tycoon has been plagued by sex

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scandals, tax fraud cases and gaffes. He was forced to resign as

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Prime Minister in 2011 as he struggled to reduce the country's

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debt. This year, his conviction for tax fraud was upheld - a conviction

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related to deals his company, Mediaset, made to buy the TV rights

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to American films. Berlusconi have also received a conviction for sex

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with an underage prostitute and for abuse of his power. Another very

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dramatic day in Italian politics. Alan, that sounded like a defiant

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that he was striking there. It is indeed a defiant Mr Berlusconi we

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have seen here. Just worth saying you probably have to live in Italy

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to fully appreciate the extent to which this figure has filled the

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political landscape here for so long as well. There is a generation of

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young Italians who have only ever known this extraordinary,

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larger-than-life, deeply controversial figure at the centre

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of the political machine. Many of them remember him from all of their

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lives. They saw him being ordered out of parliament, ordered not to

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take part in any elections for six years. As you say, a defiant

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Berlusconi. He called this a black day for Italian democracy. He argues

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he is entirely innocent and he was wrongly convicted of tax fraud by

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left wing judges bent on trying to end his political career. He insists

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that won't happen, that he will continue to lead his party from

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outside Parliament. Of course, he has tremendous wealth. He has a

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media machine that can pump his message into countless Italian homes

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on a nightly basis. Nobody here believe they have had the end of

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him. Does he have a great deal of public support? We saw what looked

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like thousands in the streets, but in the country at large, dizzy have

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a large fan base? Several million Italians voted for his party at the

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last election. That was only in February. There are a swathe of

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Italians who very much like his economics, is endless talk of the

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need to reduce taxes. Many Italians are weary of the crushing tax

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burden. They're like the way he talks about reducing the size of

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government. His critics, however, would say he was in power for all

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those years that you mentioned in the intro there and did so little,

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they would say, to resolve this country's economic problems, and why

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should he think he might do better if he was to get back into power.

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What has happened today will make his entire political project more

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difficult to carry on. Thank you very much. With me is Alberto

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Nardelli, co-founder of Electionista, a website that

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monitors elections and politics around the world. Berlusconi has

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filled the political frame in Italy. Do you think we will see the

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back of him? I think he has never been as weak as he has tonight, and

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not just because he has been expelled from Parliament, but he

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would be able to stand office for the next six years, his party has

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just split, but I don't think we have seen the end of him. He

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referred to the fact you can be a party leader and not be in

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Parliament, so clearly that is his ambition. I think we have a good

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example with another person who leads a movement. Somebody else

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could stand for office but Berlusconi could be pulling the

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strings. You could argue he has made his way around Parliament anyway.

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What does he stand for? If his party is running for election, what does

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Berlusconi's Italy mean? I think he will start to repeat the message is

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he always repeats before an election. He has started today and

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yesterday with the statement to criticise the government for

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increasing taxes, putting burdens on hard-working families and companies,

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and presenting himself as the any person in Italy who would reduce

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taxes and help hard-working people. I think we will see that message

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from that up until the election. That goes against the kind of EU

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conventional wisdom, which is to tell leaders to tighten up budgets.

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Absolutely. Berlusconi is very good at creating enemies. The EU will be

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one of those targets. He will blame the EU for lots of the issues which

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Italy is facing. He will present himself as the only person and party

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who can save Italy. Too thick Italian politics would be better off

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without him? In the long-term, absolutely. I think Italian politics

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would be better off with the current system. I think Bella Scunny is just

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a reflection of one half of that system. His biggest strength has

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often been the fact that there are not credible alternatives. -- I

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think Berlusconi is just a reflection of one half of that

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system. He is a very clever politician. Thank you for speaking

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to others. Here in the UK, Prime Minister David Cameron has promised

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to make it harder for migrants from the European Union to get access to

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Britain's welfare system, which he's suggested many Eastern Europeans see

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as "a soft touch". He says the migrants won't qualify for

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unemployment benefits until they've been here for three months - nor

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will they get instant access to housing benefit. But an EU

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commissioner has accused Mr Cameron of an "unfortunate overreaction,"

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saying the UK risks being seen as "the nasty country." Nick Robinson

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reports. There are just 35 days to go until any citizen of Romania

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Bulgaria will be free to work in the UK. The data has been in the diary

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for years, but the Prime promised to tighten up that benefit rules in

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time for January. To anyone in other EU countries, thinking of coming to

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Britain because it is easier to claim benefits, I think it is very

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important to send a clear message that that is not the case. Frankly,

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some of this work has come about because I have seen other European

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countries that do take a tougher approach can pose. Sending a signal

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mean tweaking the rules for new arrivals who want to claim to

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benefits. They will have to wait three months before claiming

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jobseeker's allowance. It will only be payable for six months. Those out

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of work in future will not be able to claim housing benefit at the same

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time. The images of Rome are sleeping rough have fuelled already

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high public concern. The government is promising new powers to remove

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beggars, and a new minimum earnings threshold before anyone can claim

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income support. Public concern about immigration is forcing all the main

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parties to think again. The Prime Minister is even saying he wants to

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change the basis of the EU. The idea that anyone from any country can

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work anywhere, whether they are a Polish plumber, remaining in

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architect or a Brit who fancies working on the Costa Blanca. I think

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people can now see if there are radically different pay rates, you

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will get mass movement of people. Frankly, it isn't right for our

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country those countries. In Brussels, one EU commissioner said

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Britain was in danger of being seen as the nasty country. David Cameron

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will meet the support of many other European capitals refuse to change

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the fundamental European principle. Prime Minister Cameron called me,

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informing me about the intentions he has on this. I had occasion to

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underline that free movement is a principle that must be withheld.

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Many Romanians and Bulgarians have already made the journey here. They

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are self employed a half work permits. The announcement today is

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about trying to limit the numbers who follow.

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Charles Grant joins us now. Do you think Mr Cameron is addressing a

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genuine problem for Britain? In one respect, he is, and in one respect,

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he is addressing a greatly exaggerated one. If very poor

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countries join the EU with very low wage levels, after workers from

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those countries are allowed to come to the UK, they can come and work in

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the UK, which creates problems and tensions, and that needs to be

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addressed. For future countries joining the EU, they would only have

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the complete right to work in the UK or any other country when the per

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capita income of the new member gets to, say, 50% or 70% of the average.

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That is for new members in the future. I think that is a perfectly

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respectable idea. Where I have more concern is with his measures to try

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to reduce access of people from existing EU members to benefit in

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this country. It issues it is a big problem and I do not think it is --

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it issues it is a big problem. I think there was a great exaggeration

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of this problem. There is this expectation there could be thousands

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of tens of thousands possibly very highly qualified immigrants from

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bald area and Romania who want to come over here. We don't know how

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many will come. Look at the example of what happened in 2004 when about

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a million people came to our shores. Most of them came to work hard, play

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tax and use much less of the welfare system than the British people. They

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pay more tax. They seem to be younger and not a big demand on the

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health service. I think people from other places do come, they will work

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harder make a contribution. Briefly, if that is possible on this

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question, David Cameron talks about the danger of hollowing out the

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countries they are coming from if some of the brightest and best come

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to Britain. That is a fair point. It could damage the structure of these

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countries. It is a question of balance. And his wire think his idea

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of saying for the very poorest countries to join the EU, those

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people should not be able to come and work in our country. I think

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that is a fair point. For countries already in the EU, he can make some

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restrictions to the benefits. I would support some changes, for

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example, child benefit, if Page two people from EU countries living in

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the UK, even if their children are back in a different country, child

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benefit can still be paid. The directive could be changed for that.

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Dara many fewer claimants among the EU immigrants than from ordinary

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British people living in the country.

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In The To Latvia now, where the Prime Minister has resigned

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following the collapse of a supermarket roof in the capital Riga

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last week, which will now bring his government down too.

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At least 54 people died in the incident, and Valdis Dombrovskis

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says he's taking full political responsibility. The Latvian

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president earlier described the disaster as "murder". Nick Childs

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has more. Repercussions from this catastrophic

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collapse continued. Latvia is a country still reeling from its

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deadliest disaster since it declared its independence from the Soviet

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Union 22 years ago. There has been much national grief and mourning on

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display since the tragedy, but also anger. And so, a grim faced Prime

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Minister has emerged before cameras to announce his resignation. His

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departure also means a new government must be formed. This is

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just weeks before the government is due to join the Eurozone. The

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wrecked shell of the supermarket is being demolished. Emergency workers

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are also sifting through the debris for clues. A police investigation is

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taking place into whether building regulations were violated. Many have

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pointed tonnes of soil from a new roof garden as a key factor. The

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Minister has blamed a lack of government oversight from

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construction projects, results of austerity measures to prepare the

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Eurozone membership. At the same time, they insist the resignation of

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Latvia's longest serving Prime Minister won't create political

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economic instability. In similar situations, politicians have made

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similar decisions, because this is really the biggest ever catastrophe

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in our history. Politicians have agreed to start negotiations, to

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start consultations about a new government, already next week. But

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Latvians are now having to come to terms with a period of political

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uncertainty, even as they continue to digester scale of last week's

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tragedy. In Brazil, part of the stadium that

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will host the World Cup opener in Brazil next year has collapsed,

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killing at least two people. The Fire Service says it was called to

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the area after reports of a collapsed crane. Let's get an update

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now on that stadium collapse in Sao Paulo. The BBC's Gary Duffy is

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there. What is the latest? The Fire Service in Sao Paulo are now

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confirming that two people died. They initially said three. It is

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believed one was a truck driver who was involved in the actual project

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that was ongoing at the time of the accident. The other was a worker who

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was taking a break. It was lunchtime, and the company say he

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was in an area he wasn't authorised to be in. What appears to have

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happened is that the final bit of the roof structure was being lowered

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into place. This stadium is roughly 94% complete. Most of the work is

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done. The deadline was for the end of December. They are clearly under

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pressure to get the work done, and the accident happened. The

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construction company involved in the works say that the weight of the

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structure being lifted was within the limits of the crane that was

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being used, so clearly, a lot of questions to be answered by

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investigators. And there had been a lot of pressure had now from the

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International football Association for the stadium to be finished at

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least this year? Yes, there has been tension right across the board

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between thief and the Brazilian authorities about repeated delays in

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the stadiums. There are problems not just in Sao Paulo, but in other

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Brazilian cities, such as Amazonas in the heart of the Amazon

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rainforest. There was a deadline set by the end of December, and I think

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the Fifa authorities were hoping that would be the end of the matter,

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that they would look forward to next year's World Cup tournament and say

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that all the stadiums were now ready. Undoubtedly, as well as being

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a terrible tragedy for the families involved, this is a big setback for

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the World Cup. Sao Paulo is Brazil's biggest city, and I think

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they would have been an expectation that organisationally and with

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construction companies behind it, this is a project that could have

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been completed to make this latest deadline. So, undoubtedly an

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organisational blow to the World Cup will stop thank you for that update.

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Protests have also continued in Ukraine - where the government's

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decision NOT to sign a trade agreement with the European Union

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has been welcomed by some, and bitterly opposed by others.

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It's thought economic pressure from Russia was instrumental in derailing

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the deal. Our correspondent Steve Rosenberg has travelled across

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Ukraine and sent us this report. It's a town that looks Russian,

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speaks Russian, and even has its own Russian revolutionary. But this is

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done yet in eastern Ukraine, the country's eastern heartland. The

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local fridge factory relies on the Russian market. They don't sell many

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of these to Europe. So here, they are rather call to the idea of EU

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integration. The factory fears a free-trade deal with Brussels would

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mean trade barriers to the east. These fridges would suddenly become

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35% more expensive in Russia. They would be priced out of the market.

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Russia's much more important to us right now, says this man. We don't

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want those links broken. It is a similar story across this part of

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Ukraine. For the factories here, good relations with Moscow are

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vital. Too many people in eastern Ukraine, the European Union is

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something that is so far away, and although there is some support here

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for closer ties with Europe, there is also great concern about damaging

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relations with Russia. It is a different story here.

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This is Lviv in western Ukraine, once under Polish rule and part of

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Austria -hungry. It feels like Europe. At the Catholic cathedral in

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ten macro three, this baby is being baptised. He is named after the

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Pope. They want Ukraine to be closer to the EU and less dependent on

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Russia here. TRANSLATION: If we keep taking the bread which Russia hands

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out to us, we will just keep coming back for more. We will never be our

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own masters. This fruit juice manufacturer near Lviv has moved

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closer to Europe. It has opened two factories in

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Poland, and there are more on the way. TRANSLATION: We can benefit

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from Europe if we bring European laws into line with our

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legislation, that will help others destroy corruption. In Lviv, they

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know exactly which path they want Ukraine to take. But this country is

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divided, torn between East and West. Now a look at some of the day's

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other news. A coalition government has been

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agreed in Germany after long negotiations between Chancellor

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Angela Merkel's conservatives and the centre-left SPD. Mrs Merkel said

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the agreement was based on mutual trust, while the SPD leader

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described it as fair. Mrs Merkel could be sworn in for a new term in

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office by Christmas if SPD members vote to approve the new partnership.

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Russian police have arrested 15 radical Islamists during early

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morning raids in Moscow. They also recovered homemade bombs, hand

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grenades and guns. Police said those arrested were members of an Islamist

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group believed to have links with Al-Qaeda. Security in Russia is

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tight two months ahead of the Winter Olympics in the Black Sea resort of

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Sochi. A tiny book of psalms has been sold

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at auction in New York for more than ?8.5 million, making it the most

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expensive printed book in the world. The translation of Biblical psalms

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is thought to be the first book to have been printed in what is now the

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United States. It was produced by Puritan settlers in Cambridge,

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Massachusetts in1640. Let's take you now to another

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extraordinary auction. This one was the sale of a 15 million -year-old

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fossil, which measured 17 metres. It went under the hammer in England,

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although knowledgeably, fetching ?400,000. Our correspondent Duncan

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Kennedy takes at the tail. Proof that age and beauty do mix.

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150 million years old, and not a drop of Botox in sight. Just be

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elegant feminine lines of aid deploy dockets, who has been named Misty.

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Dash-macro declared Douglas. She is thought to be the first large-scale

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dinosaur skeleton ever to be auctioned in Britain. We will start

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the bidding with me at ?280,000. Whitney at ?280,000. And antique of

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such extreme vintage soon attracted bidders through around the world,

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all keen to lay claim to what was a docile, 56 but long giant. Have

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?400,000. I am selling against all of the rest of you at ?400,000. Sold

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for ?400,000. Thank you very much indeed. With tax and commission, the

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total rises to nearly half ?1 million. Bought by an unnamed

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institution who will put it on public display. Why do you think

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they were prepared to pay the best part of half ?1 million? Because it

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is a true, tremendous object. There are only a handful of complete dip

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the dockers skeleton that there ever been discovered, so the chance to

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buy one simply does not happen very often. This is what Misty would have

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looked like as she roamed during the late Jurassic period. Found in the

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United States, diplodocus animals like Misty are perhaps the largest

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and heaviest dinosaur still never existed. She has travelled along way

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since then, but has lost none of the unique value. At nearly half ?1

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million, she has not only wowed audiences here in Sussex, but

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dinosaur devotees the world over. Her new owners will be guaranteed an

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epic presence. This most feminine of fossils for collectors, a dinosaur

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to die for. You can tell he enjoyed reporting on

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that story ! Thanks very much for being with us. You are watching

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