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His is BBC World News Today with me, Philippa Thomas. Silvio Berlusconi


tells supporters it is a day of mourning for democracy. Britain


risks being seen as "nasty country", so says an EU commissioner, as David


Cameron vows to limit the number of EU migrants working in Britain and


receiving benefits. Also coming up: We will be live in Sao Paulo were at


least two people have been killed at a football stadium. A dinosaur


nicknamed Misty sells at auction. We'll tell you just how much she's


worth. Hello and welcome. He's been kicked out of the Italian Senate but


vows that he's not finished with Italian politics yet. Silvio


Berlusconi, three times a Prime Minister, a multi-billionaire media


tycoon, and convicted tax evader, today faced the humiliation of his


fellow politicians voting him out of parliament with immediate effect.


Silvio Berlusconi's supporters were there - not in the Senate - but


spilling across the streets outside his Roman palazzo, where their hero


told them this is a day of "mourning for democracy."


We must not this further that the leader is no longer the senator.


There are other leaders of parties who are not Members of Parliament.


Even if one is not a Member of Parliament, one can continue to


fight for our freedom. He is saying his career may not be


over yet. Let's take a quick look at Signore Berlusconi's colourful,


controversial political career. Silvio Berlusconi been Prime


Minister three times since 1994 - in fact, Italy's longest serving Prime


Minister since World War II. But the media tycoon has been plagued by sex


scandals, tax fraud cases and gaffes. He was forced to resign as


Prime Minister in 2011 as he struggled to reduce the country's


debt. This year, his conviction for tax fraud was upheld - a conviction


related to deals his company, Mediaset, made to buy the TV rights


to American films. Berlusconi have also received a conviction for sex


with an underage prostitute and for abuse of his power. Another very


dramatic day in Italian politics. Alan, that sounded like a defiant


that he was striking there. It is indeed a defiant Mr Berlusconi we


have seen here. Just worth saying you probably have to live in Italy


to fully appreciate the extent to which this figure has filled the


political landscape here for so long as well. There is a generation of


young Italians who have only ever known this extraordinary,


larger-than-life, deeply controversial figure at the centre


of the political machine. Many of them remember him from all of their


lives. They saw him being ordered out of parliament, ordered not to


take part in any elections for six years. As you say, a defiant


Berlusconi. He called this a black day for Italian democracy. He argues


he is entirely innocent and he was wrongly convicted of tax fraud by


left wing judges bent on trying to end his political career. He insists


that won't happen, that he will continue to lead his party from


outside Parliament. Of course, he has tremendous wealth. He has a


media machine that can pump his message into countless Italian homes


on a nightly basis. Nobody here believe they have had the end of


him. Does he have a great deal of public support? We saw what looked


like thousands in the streets, but in the country at large, dizzy have


a large fan base? Several million Italians voted for his party at the


last election. That was only in February. There are a swathe of


Italians who very much like his economics, is endless talk of the


need to reduce taxes. Many Italians are weary of the crushing tax


burden. They're like the way he talks about reducing the size of


government. His critics, however, would say he was in power for all


those years that you mentioned in the intro there and did so little,


they would say, to resolve this country's economic problems, and why


should he think he might do better if he was to get back into power.


What has happened today will make his entire political project more


difficult to carry on. Thank you very much. With me is Alberto


Nardelli, co-founder of Electionista, a website that


monitors elections and politics around the world. Berlusconi has


filled the political frame in Italy. Do you think we will see the


back of him? I think he has never been as weak as he has tonight, and


not just because he has been expelled from Parliament, but he


would be able to stand office for the next six years, his party has


just split, but I don't think we have seen the end of him. He


referred to the fact you can be a party leader and not be in


Parliament, so clearly that is his ambition. I think we have a good


example with another person who leads a movement. Somebody else


could stand for office but Berlusconi could be pulling the


strings. You could argue he has made his way around Parliament anyway.


What does he stand for? If his party is running for election, what does


Berlusconi's Italy mean? I think he will start to repeat the message is


he always repeats before an election. He has started today and


yesterday with the statement to criticise the government for


increasing taxes, putting burdens on hard-working families and companies,


and presenting himself as the any person in Italy who would reduce


taxes and help hard-working people. I think we will see that message


from that up until the election. That goes against the kind of EU


conventional wisdom, which is to tell leaders to tighten up budgets.


Absolutely. Berlusconi is very good at creating enemies. The EU will be


one of those targets. He will blame the EU for lots of the issues which


Italy is facing. He will present himself as the only person and party


who can save Italy. Too thick Italian politics would be better off


without him? In the long-term, absolutely. I think Italian politics


would be better off with the current system. I think Bella Scunny is just


a reflection of one half of that system. His biggest strength has


often been the fact that there are not credible alternatives. -- I


think Berlusconi is just a reflection of one half of that


system. He is a very clever politician. Thank you for speaking


to others. Here in the UK, Prime Minister David Cameron has promised


to make it harder for migrants from the European Union to get access to


Britain's welfare system, which he's suggested many Eastern Europeans see


as "a soft touch". He says the migrants won't qualify for


unemployment benefits until they've been here for three months - nor


will they get instant access to housing benefit. But an EU


commissioner has accused Mr Cameron of an "unfortunate overreaction,"


saying the UK risks being seen as "the nasty country." Nick Robinson


reports. There are just 35 days to go until any citizen of Romania


Bulgaria will be free to work in the UK. The data has been in the diary


for years, but the Prime promised to tighten up that benefit rules in


time for January. To anyone in other EU countries, thinking of coming to


Britain because it is easier to claim benefits, I think it is very


important to send a clear message that that is not the case. Frankly,


some of this work has come about because I have seen other European


countries that do take a tougher approach can pose. Sending a signal


mean tweaking the rules for new arrivals who want to claim to


benefits. They will have to wait three months before claiming


jobseeker's allowance. It will only be payable for six months. Those out


of work in future will not be able to claim housing benefit at the same


time. The images of Rome are sleeping rough have fuelled already


high public concern. The government is promising new powers to remove


beggars, and a new minimum earnings threshold before anyone can claim


income support. Public concern about immigration is forcing all the main


parties to think again. The Prime Minister is even saying he wants to


change the basis of the EU. The idea that anyone from any country can


work anywhere, whether they are a Polish plumber, remaining in


architect or a Brit who fancies working on the Costa Blanca. I think


people can now see if there are radically different pay rates, you


will get mass movement of people. Frankly, it isn't right for our


country those countries. In Brussels, one EU commissioner said


Britain was in danger of being seen as the nasty country. David Cameron


will meet the support of many other European capitals refuse to change


the fundamental European principle. Prime Minister Cameron called me,


informing me about the intentions he has on this. I had occasion to


underline that free movement is a principle that must be withheld.


Many Romanians and Bulgarians have already made the journey here. They


are self employed a half work permits. The announcement today is


about trying to limit the numbers who follow.


Charles Grant joins us now. Do you think Mr Cameron is addressing a


genuine problem for Britain? In one respect, he is, and in one respect,


he is addressing a greatly exaggerated one. If very poor


countries join the EU with very low wage levels, after workers from


those countries are allowed to come to the UK, they can come and work in


the UK, which creates problems and tensions, and that needs to be


addressed. For future countries joining the EU, they would only have


the complete right to work in the UK or any other country when the per


capita income of the new member gets to, say, 50% or 70% of the average.


That is for new members in the future. I think that is a perfectly


respectable idea. Where I have more concern is with his measures to try


to reduce access of people from existing EU members to benefit in


this country. It issues it is a big problem and I do not think it is --


it issues it is a big problem. I think there was a great exaggeration


of this problem. There is this expectation there could be thousands


of tens of thousands possibly very highly qualified immigrants from


bald area and Romania who want to come over here. We don't know how


many will come. Look at the example of what happened in 2004 when about


a million people came to our shores. Most of them came to work hard, play


tax and use much less of the welfare system than the British people. They


pay more tax. They seem to be younger and not a big demand on the


health service. I think people from other places do come, they will work


harder make a contribution. Briefly, if that is possible on this


question, David Cameron talks about the danger of hollowing out the


countries they are coming from if some of the brightest and best come


to Britain. That is a fair point. It could damage the structure of these


countries. It is a question of balance. And his wire think his idea


of saying for the very poorest countries to join the EU, those


people should not be able to come and work in our country. I think


that is a fair point. For countries already in the EU, he can make some


restrictions to the benefits. I would support some changes, for


example, child benefit, if Page two people from EU countries living in


the UK, even if their children are back in a different country, child


benefit can still be paid. The directive could be changed for that.


Dara many fewer claimants among the EU immigrants than from ordinary


British people living in the country.


In The To Latvia now, where the Prime Minister has resigned


following the collapse of a supermarket roof in the capital Riga


last week, which will now bring his government down too.


At least 54 people died in the incident, and Valdis Dombrovskis


says he's taking full political responsibility. The Latvian


president earlier described the disaster as "murder". Nick Childs


has more. Repercussions from this catastrophic


collapse continued. Latvia is a country still reeling from its


deadliest disaster since it declared its independence from the Soviet


Union 22 years ago. There has been much national grief and mourning on


display since the tragedy, but also anger. And so, a grim faced Prime


Minister has emerged before cameras to announce his resignation. His


departure also means a new government must be formed. This is


just weeks before the government is due to join the Eurozone. The


wrecked shell of the supermarket is being demolished. Emergency workers


are also sifting through the debris for clues. A police investigation is


taking place into whether building regulations were violated. Many have


pointed tonnes of soil from a new roof garden as a key factor. The


Minister has blamed a lack of government oversight from


construction projects, results of austerity measures to prepare the


Eurozone membership. At the same time, they insist the resignation of


Latvia's longest serving Prime Minister won't create political


economic instability. In similar situations, politicians have made


similar decisions, because this is really the biggest ever catastrophe


in our history. Politicians have agreed to start negotiations, to


start consultations about a new government, already next week. But


Latvians are now having to come to terms with a period of political


uncertainty, even as they continue to digester scale of last week's


tragedy. In Brazil, part of the stadium that


will host the World Cup opener in Brazil next year has collapsed,


killing at least two people. The Fire Service says it was called to


the area after reports of a collapsed crane. Let's get an update


now on that stadium collapse in Sao Paulo. The BBC's Gary Duffy is


there. What is the latest? The Fire Service in Sao Paulo are now


confirming that two people died. They initially said three. It is


believed one was a truck driver who was involved in the actual project


that was ongoing at the time of the accident. The other was a worker who


was taking a break. It was lunchtime, and the company say he


was in an area he wasn't authorised to be in. What appears to have


happened is that the final bit of the roof structure was being lowered


into place. This stadium is roughly 94% complete. Most of the work is


done. The deadline was for the end of December. They are clearly under


pressure to get the work done, and the accident happened. The


construction company involved in the works say that the weight of the


structure being lifted was within the limits of the crane that was


being used, so clearly, a lot of questions to be answered by


investigators. And there had been a lot of pressure had now from the


International football Association for the stadium to be finished at


least this year? Yes, there has been tension right across the board


between thief and the Brazilian authorities about repeated delays in


the stadiums. There are problems not just in Sao Paulo, but in other


Brazilian cities, such as Amazonas in the heart of the Amazon


rainforest. There was a deadline set by the end of December, and I think


the Fifa authorities were hoping that would be the end of the matter,


that they would look forward to next year's World Cup tournament and say


that all the stadiums were now ready. Undoubtedly, as well as being


a terrible tragedy for the families involved, this is a big setback for


the World Cup. Sao Paulo is Brazil's biggest city, and I think


they would have been an expectation that organisationally and with


construction companies behind it, this is a project that could have


been completed to make this latest deadline. So, undoubtedly an


organisational blow to the World Cup will stop thank you for that update.


Protests have also continued in Ukraine - where the government's


decision NOT to sign a trade agreement with the European Union


has been welcomed by some, and bitterly opposed by others.


It's thought economic pressure from Russia was instrumental in derailing


the deal. Our correspondent Steve Rosenberg has travelled across


Ukraine and sent us this report. It's a town that looks Russian,


speaks Russian, and even has its own Russian revolutionary. But this is


done yet in eastern Ukraine, the country's eastern heartland. The


local fridge factory relies on the Russian market. They don't sell many


of these to Europe. So here, they are rather call to the idea of EU


integration. The factory fears a free-trade deal with Brussels would


mean trade barriers to the east. These fridges would suddenly become


35% more expensive in Russia. They would be priced out of the market.


Russia's much more important to us right now, says this man. We don't


want those links broken. It is a similar story across this part of


Ukraine. For the factories here, good relations with Moscow are


vital. Too many people in eastern Ukraine, the European Union is


something that is so far away, and although there is some support here


for closer ties with Europe, there is also great concern about damaging


relations with Russia. It is a different story here.


This is Lviv in western Ukraine, once under Polish rule and part of


Austria -hungry. It feels like Europe. At the Catholic cathedral in


ten macro three, this baby is being baptised. He is named after the


Pope. They want Ukraine to be closer to the EU and less dependent on


Russia here. TRANSLATION: If we keep taking the bread which Russia hands


out to us, we will just keep coming back for more. We will never be our


own masters. This fruit juice manufacturer near Lviv has moved


closer to Europe. It has opened two factories in


Poland, and there are more on the way. TRANSLATION: We can benefit


from Europe if we bring European laws into line with our


legislation, that will help others destroy corruption. In Lviv, they


know exactly which path they want Ukraine to take. But this country is


divided, torn between East and West. Now a look at some of the day's


other news. A coalition government has been


agreed in Germany after long negotiations between Chancellor


Angela Merkel's conservatives and the centre-left SPD. Mrs Merkel said


the agreement was based on mutual trust, while the SPD leader


described it as fair. Mrs Merkel could be sworn in for a new term in


office by Christmas if SPD members vote to approve the new partnership.


Russian police have arrested 15 radical Islamists during early


morning raids in Moscow. They also recovered homemade bombs, hand


grenades and guns. Police said those arrested were members of an Islamist


group believed to have links with Al-Qaeda. Security in Russia is


tight two months ahead of the Winter Olympics in the Black Sea resort of


Sochi. A tiny book of psalms has been sold


at auction in New York for more than ?8.5 million, making it the most


expensive printed book in the world. The translation of Biblical psalms


is thought to be the first book to have been printed in what is now the


United States. It was produced by Puritan settlers in Cambridge,


Massachusetts in1640. Let's take you now to another


extraordinary auction. This one was the sale of a 15 million -year-old


fossil, which measured 17 metres. It went under the hammer in England,


although knowledgeably, fetching ?400,000. Our correspondent Duncan


Kennedy takes at the tail. Proof that age and beauty do mix.


150 million years old, and not a drop of Botox in sight. Just be


elegant feminine lines of aid deploy dockets, who has been named Misty.


Dash-macro declared Douglas. She is thought to be the first large-scale


dinosaur skeleton ever to be auctioned in Britain. We will start


the bidding with me at ?280,000. Whitney at ?280,000. And antique of


such extreme vintage soon attracted bidders through around the world,


all keen to lay claim to what was a docile, 56 but long giant. Have


?400,000. I am selling against all of the rest of you at ?400,000. Sold


for ?400,000. Thank you very much indeed. With tax and commission, the


total rises to nearly half ?1 million. Bought by an unnamed


institution who will put it on public display. Why do you think


they were prepared to pay the best part of half ?1 million? Because it


is a true, tremendous object. There are only a handful of complete dip


the dockers skeleton that there ever been discovered, so the chance to


buy one simply does not happen very often. This is what Misty would have


looked like as she roamed during the late Jurassic period. Found in the


United States, diplodocus animals like Misty are perhaps the largest


and heaviest dinosaur still never existed. She has travelled along way


since then, but has lost none of the unique value. At nearly half ?1


million, she has not only wowed audiences here in Sussex, but


dinosaur devotees the world over. Her new owners will be guaranteed an


epic presence. This most feminine of fossils for collectors, a dinosaur


to die for. You can tell he enjoyed reporting on


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