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This is BBC World News Today with me, Kasia Madera. Stand up in Kiev

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as police moved in to dismantle some protest camps in the Ukrainian

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capital. These are live pictures from Independence Square, where

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pro-EU demonstrators are still staging rallies. Authorities have

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given them until Tuesday to leave. No end to anti-government protest in

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Thailand, despite the Prime Minister dissolving parliament and calling a

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fresh election. Also coming up, remembering Mandela,

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last-minute preparations for tomorrow's memorial service as his

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daughter speaks exclusively to the BBC about the last hours before he

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died. He said to me, everybody that is

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here that wants to see him to say bye-bye, it was a most wonderful day

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for us, because the grandchildren were there, we were there. And end

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of the line for a motoring icon, why of the line for a motoring icon why

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Volkswagen is pulling production of its humble Kombi.

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Hello and welcome to the programme. We begin with fast-moving

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developments out of Ukraine. Within the past couple of hours, police

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have dismantled some protest barricades in Independence Square in

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the capital, Kiev, and entered the headquarters of an opposition party.

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But there are still thousands of protesters in the square. Let's take

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a look at some of the images live, hopefully, from Independence Square,

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we can see those protest camps and some discrepancies between whether,

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which opposition parties and whether they have actually had their

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headquarters entered in by the police. But we can discuss this much

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further, because there is a background story to this, as you can

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imagine. With me is Olexiy Solohubenko, former head of the BBC

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Ukrainian service, now global news editor for BBC language services.

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The situation is tense in Kiev, just remind us why it has come to this.

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It started after the President of Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych, decided

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not to sign the association agreement with the European Union,

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which was a very big thing for Ukraine. Instead, he decided to side

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with Russia and to discuss the tripartite arrangement which did not

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come to anything until now. Last Saturday, there was a very brutal

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attack on a peaceful rally in Independence Square in Kiev by

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police. That sparked new rallies. I think the rally over the weekend saw

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100,000 people, they are demanding not just the wrap Rushmore or

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joining with the European Union and assigning the agreement, but the

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protest has evolved into demands for the president to go, for the Cabinet

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of ministers to go, for the police to be punished for brutality, and

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neither side, nor the government, the president or the opposition

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protesters, have any common ground now. There is no dialogue, there are

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mutual threats, and the stand-off is very tense. So it has moved on from

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that trade agreement, which even Angela Merkel said the door was

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still open for Ukraine. When we look at these images now, we know the

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police have given them a deadline of Tuesday to decamp. Is that going to

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happen? I think Ukraine is a country of deadlines which are very rarely

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kept, so I do not think that the protesters will just pack up and go.

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They are very determined to stay, to protest, to carry on with this. I

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think the deadlock can be, well there could be a breakthrough

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tomorrow if Western mediators are put in there. If they are putting

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their weight behind the negotiations, Baroness Ashton is

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coming to Kiev, and also I think the under Secretary of State is coming

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from the United States, so this is not the first time that Ukraine

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needs external mediation. The same thing happened during the Orange

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Revolution in 2004, and hopefully this time that will be the route

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that will resolve the stand-off. Let's talk to Steve Rosenberg, who

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was live in Kiev, Steve, you are overlooking Independence Square,

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discrepancies about which opposition headquarters or camps were attacked,

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can you bring us up with the latest? It has been very fast-moving up

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until now. That is right. As you can see, the situation behind me on

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Independence Square is pretty calm, there is a pop concert going on,

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political speech is being made, no sign of any police here, and the

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tented encampment remains. It is a slightly different situation in the

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government district, not far away from here, but there the police are

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on the streets today, far more police than we saw yesterday in the

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centre of Kiev. And those police have gradually been moving

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protesters away from government buildings, the main government

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buildings in Kiev. We went down to the government district earlier

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today, we saw several hundred police lined up in rows, surrounding a

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small tented encampment there. One of the tents was destroyed, not by

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police. But the situation where we were was pretty calm, but there was

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pushing and shoving around the government buildings as riot police

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moved back, pushed back protesters. But here on Independence Square at

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the moment, it is calm. Steve Rosenberg, live overlooking

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Independence Square, thank you very much. As Steve and our guest was

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saying, police have given a deadline of Tuesday, we will watch to see

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what happens. Some of the other news, and in

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Thailand anti-government protests are continuing there, too. Even

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after Yingluck Shinawatra dissolved parliament, she said an election for

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February, but that did not satisfy the demonstrators, who surrounded

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her offices at Government House. Protest leaders are demanding the

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democratic system be changed and the removal of the entire Shinawatra

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family from Thailand. Jonathan Head got a bird's eye view of the

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rallies. Shuts down once again by mass

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protests. They want a government they accused of corruption and

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abusing its parliamentary majority to go. But the sudden offer of an

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election have softened the mood. to go. But the sudden offer of an

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election have softened the mood A show of strength was more like a

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giant street party. Leaders of this protest movement called for an

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impressive turnout, and from PA you can see they have achieved that

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goal. Streets around the capital are filled with people, and it has

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certainly made an impression on the government. What you do not see are

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the government's own supporters and the government's own supporters, and

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you have to ask whether they have enough people to be able to beat the

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government in an election. The fact is that in rural areas the

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government is still very popular, so some confusion among these

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protesters. Was an election a big enough concession? If it was me,

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protesters. Was an election a big enough concession? If it was me I

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would accept that. Even if this government wins another election,

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which they might do? For me, yes, but I am not sure about a lot of

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people. Even the main opposition party, whose MPs have now joined

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these rallies, seemed unclear. Its leader has been demanding an

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election for days but was suddenly unsure whether he would even contest

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it. So an announcement that should have

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cleared the air has cleared up knocking. -- nothing. An election

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will be held in less than two months. How it will go, whether its

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results will be respected is anyone's guess.

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In Russia, President Vladimir Putin has abolished Ria Novosti, the

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country's major state-owned news agency. In a surprise decree

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published on the Kremlin website, he announced that it would be scrapped

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and replaced by a news agency called Russia Today. The new agency will be

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headed by a keen Kremlin supporter, Dmitry Kiselev. A spokesman for the

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Kremlin said that Ria Novosti was being restructured in order to make

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it more economical. IMac now, one of the men accused of murdering

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Fusilier really be has been describing how he chose his victim

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and then killed him. Michael Adebolajo, a Muslim convert, told

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the Old Bailey that he was a soldier of Allah and blamed the death of UK

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foreign policy. June Kelly was in court. The report contains

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distressing details. The start of the defence case today,

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the men in the dark are accused of the murder of Lee Rigby, as well as

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charges of conspiring to murder and attempting to murder a police

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officer. They pleaded not guilty to everything. Michael Adebowale and

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Michael Adebolajo have said they want to be referred to by their

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Muslim names. In the witness box surrounded by security guards, one

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cordons of Mujahid Abu Hamza and laid out his political and religious

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beliefs. He told the jury, Al-Qaeda I considered to be mujahedin, I love

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them, they are my brothers, I have never met them, I consider that my

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brothers in Islam. He described how he had been brought up as a

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Christian and had converted to Islam when he was at university. He took

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part in demonstrations, he was angry at British foreign policy. Today he

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spoke of a war in Iraq and said it was the treatment of Muslims which

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led him to kill. On the events in Woolwich, he admitted attempting to

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decapitate Lee Rigby. He said that, as a soldier, he had an obligation

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to fight, despite having a wife and six children. His youngest child was

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just four days old when he took the soldier's life. He said it was Allah

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who had ordered him to kill Lee Rigby. They were looking for a

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soldier, and they went for Lee Rigby because he was carrying a military

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rucksack. He told the court, I am a soldier of Allah, and I understand

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that some people might not recognise this because we do not wear fatigues

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and do not go to the Brecon Beacons to drain. But we are still soldiers

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in the sight of Allah. This was Michael Adebolajo running

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towards firearms officers armed with a meat cleaver. Police shot him.

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a meat cleaver. Police shot him Today he said he had wanted to die.

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Lee Rigby's sister, being comforted by her mother, as the family left

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court this evening after sitting through the testimony. He has now

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completed his evidence and the rest of the defence case is due to be

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heard tomorrow. June Kelly reporting. Nelson

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Mandela's eldest daughter has described as wonderful the final

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hours that she and her family spent with the father before he died. She

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spoke to, two more as preparations were made for the memorial service

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in Soweto. -- Komla Dumor. We explained to him that people were

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outside the hospital, singing, putting cards and flowers. I do

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believe you heard, you know, because I do not know what they were saying

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with the doctors, saying he had opened his eyes, I think. And I

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don't know what somebody was saying to me, and I said, well, I believe

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he still hears me, you know, when I speak to him, because I would

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everyday say to him, you know, even if all of us, you know, this year or

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kissed the cheek, everyday for, I don't know, the past so many months,

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I love you, I am coming to see you tomorrow, you know? And then maybe

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he would open his eyes for just a second and close those guys. So for

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me, I think that until the last moment he heard us, you know. And

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you know, the children were there, the grandchildren were there, you

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know, Graca Machel was there, so we were always around him. And at the

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last moment we were sitting with him on Thursday the whole day. It was

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the most wonderful day for us, because the grandchildren were

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there, we were there, the professional doctors, and I think

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when they saw him slipping away those doctors dedicated their time.

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They were running shifts 24 hours, being there, it was like they were

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soldiers guarding this... I don t soldiers guarding this... I don't

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know whether you understand this simile, soldiers guarding his

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spirit. Without them knowing that they were practising our rituals and

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culture, and as we family members came in, they would excuse

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themselves and just a few of them would be there to give us the time

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to be around my dad's bed. And so even for the grandchildren, I think

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it was a wonderful moment. I don't think my father fought just for

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political freedom. He also fought for spiritual freedom, to free

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yourself spiritually. He talks about the fact that it takes courage to

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forgive, forgiveness is a very difficult thing. I don't think he

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woke up one day and said, I forgive those who incarcerated me. But I

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think he knew that if he didn't forgive, he would be for ever

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imprisoned himself spiritually. And if you are not free, you cannot be

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free definitely here. And so for me, the lesson is to have... The lesson

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we can take away from his life is to have the courage to forgive other

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people. Your own husband, if you are married, your own children, your own

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neighbours, your own community, because if we have the courage to

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forgive as human beings, there will be no wars around us. There will be

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no crime, there will be no conflict, OK? And for me, that is the greatest

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gift that he has given to the world. Because he also says none of us,

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Because he also says none of us when we are born, are born hating

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another. We are taught to hate. If you can teach a human being to hate,

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you can also teach a human being to love, to embrace, to forgive. And

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for me, that is the greatest lesson. Archbishop Desmond Tutu has given a

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tribute at a service in Johannesburg.

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He emerged from that crucible of suffering, and being dehumanised,

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breaking rocks. In Post Office backs, working in the quarry. You

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know what it did to his eyesight and to his lungs. Yes. But he said, I

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have been consumed by hate, and a lust for revenge. He is SO what for

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reconciliation and forgiveness. An incredibly important person in

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Nelson Mandela's life. We have an order of service for the special

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memorial service that will be taking place on Tuesday. Much more details

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on our website. It has been one month since Typhoon

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Haiyan devastated much of the central Philippines, link more than

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five point -- 5500 people. Bodies are still being found survivors

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clear away the wreckage of homes and that were destroyed. The scale of

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the destruction means rebuilding will take years. Even though many

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aid agencies are helping with the relief effort. Tacloban has been the

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focus for the operation, but there are reports that in moronic areas,

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people are still struggling to get the help that they need. -- more

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promote areas. 1 million homes were damaged or destroyed across the

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country. Close to 5 million people have lost their livelihoods. My

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colleague has returned to Tacloban, which bore the brunt of the storm.

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Looking for solace, during a time of mourning. For the people gathered

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here for a special mass at the parish church, religion has a

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crucial part of the recovery process, after losing their family

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members, homes and livelihoods to Typhoon Haiyan last month. I do not

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know where to go. Only here. During Sunday, there was a mass. It is the

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only one I have now. During the storm, 250 people hid in the church,

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hoping for divine protection. They also drive. But nearly 6000 others

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did not make it, with over 1700 more still missing. For the traumatised

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community of Tacloban, the church has become their main refuge. This

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is where many of the remaining residents of Tacloban were gathered

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and will cover this Christmas. It is most important religious holiday in

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the Philippines, the biggest Catholic unity in Asia. This year,

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it is not about exchanging gifts or having big dinners. But for many

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survivors here, it is all about faith. The city has slowly started

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to get back on its feet. There is even running water and electricity

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in some areas. But when night falls, most of the devastated areas look

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like this. Shrouded in black. Parishioners have tried to lift

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their spirits by handing parols, or their spirits by handing parols or

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lanterns. They say it helps give hope in times of darkness.

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Some of the other news. French troops have begun disarming

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the leisure groups in the Central African Republic. The operation

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began with a brief exchange of gunfire between armed men and French

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soldiers near the airport in the capital. Recent communal fighting

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has left more than 450 people dead. 1600 troops are patrolling towns and

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city go check point across the country.

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The leader of the Muslim brotherhood in Egypt has appeared in court,

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accused of inciting violence, after the army as did Mohamed Morsi.

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Mohammed Badie, who was in court with other leading Islamists, denies

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the charges. Muslim students in Cairo have prompted the police to

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move onto the campus. Blackburn Rovers has confirmed that

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shrike DJ Campbell is one of six people arrested by police

:21:12.:21:16.

investigating allegations of match fixing, following a newspaper report

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in which the former Portsmouth and Nigeria international Sam Sodje

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claims he could arrange for players to be booked in return for money.

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Pictures showing North Korea's second most powerful man being

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forcibly removed from a party meeting have been aired on state TV.

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Jang Song-taek is the uncle of the leader, Kim Jong-un, and had been

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given the job of guiding and mentoring the junk leader as he

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issued the power to designate. -- the young leader.

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Money, sex and power of the stuff of headlines in North Korea, just like

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anywhere else, or at the state media put it, corruption, disloyalty and

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capitalist living. Jang Song-taek, once the most -- the second most

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powerful man, stripped of his positions and holed from a party

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meeting, under arrest, the biggest political earthquake since his

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nephew assumed power. He was Kim Jong-un's Guardian, mental and

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uncle. Too many, he was the power behind the throne. Perhaps too

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powerful, or maybe too popular. Few of the elder statesmen who booked

:22:37.:22:40.

the side Kim Jong-il's off have survived two years of his son's

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rule. The speed and scope of this latest purge is especially

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startling. Jang Song-taek has already been edited out of official

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videos, like this documentary, shown on state TV. Whether this signal is

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personal or political differences, the worry here in South Korea is

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that Jeong Jang could distract attention with military action. The

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defence Ministry has already warned its troops to be on high alert. With

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North Korea's old guard fading, the game of predicting the regime is

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getting harder. Step-by-step, Kim Jong-un has demonstrated his hold on

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power. But also, his fear of rivals. If his encore was a threat, but his

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removal be an even bigger one? It is a vehicle which you can often

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hear coming before you even see it. I am talking about the Volkswagen

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Kombi, which has been on the roads since 1950. The vehicle is only

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built in Brazil, almost to the same specification as it has always been

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built. But VW will stop making it. If the Volkswagen Kombi ever had the

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motoring equivalent of sex appeal in its use, that allure has faded with

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old age. Practically made for the streets and beaches of Brazil,

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thousands of old vehicles of the modern-day equivalent of the horse

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and cart. Engines and chassis that should have been retired years ago

:24:19.:24:21.

keeping thousands of small businesses afloat. Without the

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vehicle, there is no way to work, says this man. That is the best

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thing for us. 90 beach chairs, 60 on Brothers, sacks of coconuts and a

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volleyball net. It might not be the slickest thing on the beach, but it

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is the -- but it is very practical. But it is the end of a line for a

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car which has been manufactured here for more than half a century. In an

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increasingly automated industry, for more than half a century. In an

:24:54.:24:54.

increasingly automated industry it is still mainly built by hand. This

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format icon is beginning to look outdated. It is essentially the same

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vehicle that was built at this plant in the 1950s. But it no longer meets

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the safety requirements in Europe and those to be introduced here at

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the start of next year. 1.5 million units down the line, the Volkswagen

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Kombi is coming to an end. However much enthusiasts will mourn the

:25:20.:25:25.

passing of it, for Volkswagen, it is a hard-nosed business is Asian.

:25:26.:25:30.

According to the Brazilian deflation, starting in 2014, all

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cars airbags and ABS. To construct and put these features into that car

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would be a huge product change. Not to miss an opportunity, the company

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has built a last edition model. For a few thousand extra dollars, you

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get paintwork and trim invoking the 1960s. However fond of those distant

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memories maybe, the Volkswagen Kombi is not the smoothest cottage drive.

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It feels like a very basic vehicle. That was perhaps always part of the

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attraction. It will be the end of an era, not

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seeing one of those are around! The top story. Let's cross over to

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those live pictures from Ukraine, because security forces have

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dismantled some barricades and riot police have entered an opposition

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party headquarters, but the protesters remain in force. Now, the

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protesters remain in force. Now the vice president of the United States

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has said that violence has no place in a democratic society, so concern

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around the world as to those events in the Ukraine. We will keep you

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updated.

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