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This is a special edition of rock Mac with me backing the life of | :00:07. | :00:15. | |
Nelson Mandela, the lawyer, freedom fighter, activist, president and | :00:16. | :00:20. | |
global icon who goes down as one of the tolling figures of the 20th | :00:21. | :00:27. | |
century. He leaves a nation in mourning. His friends Archbishop | :00:28. | :00:35. | |
Desmond Tutu pays his respects. We are relieved that his suffering | :00:36. | :00:42. | |
is over. But our relief is drowned in our grief. | :00:43. | :00:52. | |
In the township of Soweto, news of Nelson Mandela's death provokes | :00:53. | :00:56. | |
sadness and an outpouring of emotion. The man who taught South | :00:57. | :01:04. | |
Africa to overcome hatred, the words of President Zuma, as he announces | :01:05. | :01:09. | |
the funeral in nine days' time. Hello and welcome. The death of | :01:10. | :01:25. | |
Nelson Mandela, frail in health and advanced in years, may not have come | :01:26. | :01:29. | |
as is a prize, but nevertheless it marks the end of an era and his | :01:30. | :01:34. | |
grief brought tributes from home and abroad. The man who had impressed | :01:35. | :01:42. | |
many with his humility and dignity and above all Magnum in 80. | :01:43. | :01:56. | |
We are here in Vilakazi Street, the roads were the old home of Nelson | :01:57. | :02:05. | |
Mandela was. It has become the most extraordinary focal point. Lots of | :02:06. | :02:09. | |
South Africans went to bed last night before they got news of the | :02:10. | :02:12. | |
passing, but once they got here, passing, but once they got here | :02:13. | :02:15. | |
many people have made their way to this place which has become a real | :02:16. | :02:21. | |
special point of attention. We have lots of people in the streets | :02:22. | :02:24. | |
earlier and they have gone past in waves, chanting, dancing and singing | :02:25. | :02:31. | |
in the most joyful way. When you ask people why there are so many | :02:32. | :02:37. | |
smiles, they say they are celebrating Madiba's life, as they | :02:38. | :02:47. | |
know him affectionately. It has been, bizarrely, a day of | :02:48. | :02:48. | |
celebration. They come from all walks of life and | :02:49. | :03:06. | |
from all communities. To pay their respects outside the home of Nelson | :03:07. | :03:10. | |
Mandela. The sense of bereavement is palpable. For some, almost private, | :03:11. | :03:19. | |
personal. But this is also a coming together, a nation united in | :03:20. | :03:24. | |
mourning but also in celebration of the life of the man they call | :03:25. | :03:29. | |
Madiba. People are celebrating the life of | :03:30. | :03:33. | |
Nelson Mandela. I think that what he would have wanted was for people to | :03:34. | :03:40. | |
celebrate his life. As South Africa prepares for a state | :03:41. | :03:42. | |
funeral of unprecedented proportions, does turn to what kind | :03:43. | :03:47. | |
of nation Nelson Mandela leaves behind. | :03:48. | :03:52. | |
We will always love Madiba for teaching us that it is possible to | :03:53. | :03:59. | |
overcome hatred and anger. In order to build a new nation and a new | :04:00. | :04:10. | |
society. For decades, the struggle against | :04:11. | :04:13. | |
apartheid looked like it might be crushed a brutal regime. A system | :04:14. | :04:19. | |
that applied violence and racist ideology in equal measure to oppress | :04:20. | :04:27. | |
South Africa's black majority. But Nelson Mandela's achievement and | :04:28. | :04:30. | |
mated to more than the victory of the oppressed of the oppressors | :04:31. | :04:39. | |
I think his greatest legacy to the world is the emphasis which he has | :04:40. | :04:44. | |
always puts on the need for reconciliation. | :04:45. | :04:51. | |
Nelson Mandela went to present an angry young man. A fighter committed | :04:52. | :04:57. | |
to defeating his enemies with violence if necessary. | :04:58. | :05:05. | |
27 years later, he emerged reaching reconciliation but he never give up | :05:06. | :05:07. | |
the struggle. I have no doubts that each and every | :05:08. | :05:20. | |
one of you can see with authority and confidence that I have travelled | :05:21. | :05:35. | |
this long road to freedom. I trust I did not falter. I made missteps | :05:36. | :05:50. | |
along the way but I have discovered that after crossing a great Hill, | :05:51. | :06:00. | |
one only finds that there are many more hills to cross. | :06:01. | :06:06. | |
His message has been an inspiration to millions, at home, in Africa and | :06:07. | :06:10. | |
beyond. He achieved more than could be | :06:11. | :06:15. | |
expected of any man. Today he has gone home and we have lost one of | :06:16. | :06:20. | |
the most influential, courageous and profoundly good human beings that | :06:21. | :06:24. | |
any of us will ever share time went on this earth. | :06:25. | :06:30. | |
It would be a hard heart indeed that wasn't moved by the spectacle, these | :06:31. | :06:39. | |
flowers and these messages, many written by children born in a | :06:40. | :06:43. | |
post-apartheid South Africa, messages that all boil down to one | :06:44. | :06:49. | |
thing, Madiba, thank you for freeing our country. | :06:50. | :06:57. | |
In death as in life, Nelson Mandela's unique ability to bring | :06:58. | :07:00. | |
people together and to lift their spirits means and end. | :07:01. | :07:18. | |
-- and didn't -- undimmed. In a few seconds ago, a white card | :07:19. | :07:23. | |
drove past and the owner has graffitied rest in peace my | :07:24. | :07:31. | |
president all over it. The ordinary people of South Africa and the world | :07:32. | :07:36. | |
have been reacting but there has been a huge reaction when someone of | :07:37. | :07:43. | |
this magnitude dies from world leaders. Our diplomatic | :07:44. | :07:49. | |
correspondent takes us through some of that reaction. | :07:50. | :07:53. | |
Intra- Wagner Square in London this morning, the flag on South Africa | :07:54. | :08:00. | |
House was at half-mast -- in Trafalgar Square. Tributes were | :08:01. | :08:10. | |
beginning to pile up. Among the mourners who came to sign the book | :08:11. | :08:15. | |
of condolence, David Cameron. The abiding memory I have is just | :08:16. | :08:21. | |
seeing him in Johannesburg and him talking about the people who had | :08:22. | :08:24. | |
imprisoned him and the suffering he had undergone and yet his complete | :08:25. | :08:29. | |
forgiveness, his total lack of malice towards those who had done | :08:30. | :08:33. | |
this to him. Across the Atlantic, the American | :08:34. | :08:40. | |
flag was also raised to half-mast on the White House and President Obama | :08:41. | :08:44. | |
made a heartfelt tribute which was deeply personal. | :08:45. | :08:50. | |
I am one of the countless millions who drew inspiration from Nelson | :08:51. | :08:56. | |
Mandela's life. My very first political action, the first thing I | :08:57. | :08:57. | |
ever did, it involved an issue - ever did, it involved an issue -- | :08:58. | :09:07. | |
that involved an issue or politics, was campaign against apartheid. | :09:08. | :09:12. | |
He was mourned not just in time Square but at the United Nations | :09:13. | :09:19. | |
where diplomats paused in silence -- Times Square. | :09:20. | :09:26. | |
China's president recalled his friendship, India's president | :09:27. | :09:35. | |
lamented the passing of a giant Russia called him an outstanding | :09:36. | :09:41. | |
politician and Brazil said he was one of the greatest figures of the | :09:42. | :09:45. | |
20th century. Tributes also came from African leaders. | :09:46. | :09:50. | |
We will all miss most cherished of Africa's sons and a true hero. | :09:51. | :09:57. | |
President Nelson Mandela lived an extraordinary life in a very | :09:58. | :10:02. | |
ordinary way. The Queen said she member at her | :10:03. | :10:08. | |
meetings with Mandela with great warmth and was deeply saddened. | :10:09. | :10:14. | |
Prince Charles, who took camera and Brixton, recalled his humour and | :10:15. | :10:19. | |
courage. He seemed to have touched everyone who met him. Former US | :10:20. | :10:24. | |
President Bill Clinton said he had lost a true friend. Tony Blair has | :10:25. | :10:29. | |
said he was a great man who made racism not just a moral but stupid. | :10:30. | :10:38. | |
South African actress Charlize Theron said his impact would live | :10:39. | :10:42. | |
for ever. By chance last night was the London | :10:43. | :10:44. | |
premiere of the new film of his life. The Duke and Duchess of | :10:45. | :10:50. | |
Cambridge were in attendance and visibly shocked when it was | :10:51. | :10:57. | |
announced. My thoughts and prayers are with him | :10:58. | :11:04. | |
and his family right now. More members of the Royal family | :11:05. | :11:07. | |
were at South Africa House this morning. For a towering figure his | :11:08. | :11:12. | |
impact on the world has surely been monumental. | :11:13. | :11:20. | |
The people continue to come past year, people just arriving down the | :11:21. | :11:26. | |
street to look at what is going on and pay tribute. I have managed to | :11:27. | :11:34. | |
talk to a couple of people here tonight. You were born and have | :11:35. | :11:42. | |
grown up in this very area. Yes, I was born here in Soweto, so I | :11:43. | :11:48. | |
remember very well when Mandela was released. It was a Monday and the | :11:49. | :11:58. | |
weather was like this. It was a bit cloudy and training. We were so | :11:59. | :12:04. | |
excited. I didn't know much about Mandela but I was excited and very | :12:05. | :12:09. | |
happy. We were told he would deliver a speech so we went there and were | :12:10. | :12:15. | |
very happy. But now the wheels have turned and Mandela is gone but we | :12:16. | :12:23. | |
don't regret because he did a very good job for us. | :12:24. | :12:28. | |
You are 13 years old, I believe What does Nelson Mandela mean to | :12:29. | :12:33. | |
your generation? He fought for freedom some most | :12:34. | :12:41. | |
people are glad he came out of jail. But now we are very cranked up | :12:42. | :12:47. | |
because he passed away. We have to learn about him more because our | :12:48. | :12:54. | |
future leaders must be like him. You have grown up not knowing about | :12:55. | :13:01. | |
the struggle of apartheid but what he did before you were even in this | :13:02. | :13:08. | |
world is very important. I was confused as to who Mandela was | :13:09. | :13:13. | |
so now I know all about him because I have read a lot. | :13:14. | :13:27. | |
How do celebrations combine with the sorrow? | :13:28. | :13:32. | |
I think we don't need to cry although it is sad. We need to | :13:33. | :13:37. | |
celebrate our black Jesus, Mr Madiba. He has done a lot for us. We | :13:38. | :13:47. | |
love him, we love him so much. It is sad that we need to celebrate his | :13:48. | :13:53. | |
life. He is happy wherever he is. Now that he has passed away, do you | :13:54. | :13:58. | |
have fears that South Africa will lose the path it is on? | :13:59. | :14:03. | |
Not at all. Not with Mandela's spirit around us. Nothing will | :14:04. | :14:08. | |
change. I you confident that Nelson | :14:09. | :14:14. | |
Mandela's legacy will carry on? Very confident because there is no | :14:15. | :14:23. | |
chance of us doing anything else. People might say South Africa still | :14:24. | :14:30. | |
has many challenges. With Nelson Mandela be satisfied with South | :14:31. | :14:34. | |
Africa today? I would say yes and no. I would say | :14:35. | :14:42. | |
yes and no. These last 24 hours have been sad | :14:43. | :14:51. | |
but very special for you. Some of the things he was going to | :14:52. | :14:58. | |
be proud of them but some things he wouldn't be happy with. | :14:59. | :15:02. | |
Thanks so March. We wish you all the best. It was a very amazing evening | :15:03. | :15:14. | |
to be here cause it is just such an incredible atmosphere. More people | :15:15. | :15:20. | |
are coming into the street. We expect the strange celebratory but | :15:21. | :15:29. | |
also sorrowful mood to continue. That was my colleague they are in | :15:30. | :15:35. | |
the township of service through. Nelson Mandela is not only the | :15:36. | :15:39. | |
father of the modern South African nation, greatly loved by his | :15:40. | :15:43. | |
people, he was also a giant on the African stage and a global icon. We | :15:44. | :15:46. | |
African stage and a global icon We have heard much of his legacy since | :15:47. | :15:50. | |
his death but there are different aspects to this. We will be | :15:51. | :15:56. | |
assessing his impact at home in a moment but first let us focus on | :15:57. | :16:02. | |
Africa. Listen to those young South Africans they are talking about him. | :16:03. | :16:09. | |
It is extraordinary how this elderly man brought up by parents from an | :16:10. | :16:15. | |
18th-century is still relevant. Yes I was speaking to a 15-year-old and | :16:16. | :16:19. | |
a 23-year-old and they said for them, I didn't expect to have a Cem | :16:20. | :16:28. | |
of he brought them liberation, but they did. I said to the 15-year-old, | :16:29. | :16:34. | |
what does liberation mean to you, because you didn't live under | :16:35. | :16:38. | |
apartheid. He said, we sea the scars of it in the country. They also hear | :16:39. | :16:43. | |
about the scars of apartheid as you did from your own paurnts - parents. | :16:44. | :16:50. | |
Do you think when you have a generation of South Africans, who | :16:51. | :16:54. | |
don't hear the stories of the oppression and discrimination, that | :16:55. | :16:58. | |
they might perhaps start seeing a different South Africa and not | :16:59. | :17:01. | |
remember Nelson Mandela in the same way? Well the one thing is it is | :17:02. | :17:06. | |
taught in schools and they learn about his contribution to the | :17:07. | :17:10. | |
country. So there has been an effort to make sure that is not forgotten. | :17:11. | :17:16. | |
Your parents were act Vis in the -- activists in the ANC and had to flee | :17:17. | :17:22. | |
to the UK. When they went back and relocated to South Africa, were they | :17:23. | :17:29. | |
grateful to Nelson Mandela? It is hard to put into words. When they | :17:30. | :17:33. | |
left South Africa, they weren't people in their country. And to go | :17:34. | :17:38. | |
back being able to and to able to take part in the process that led to | :17:39. | :17:43. | |
us being a democratic country and to... I remember them talking about | :17:44. | :17:49. | |
queueing and queueing just to vote. This opportunity to have a say in | :17:50. | :17:52. | |
the country you were born in. I remember my aunt telling me how they | :17:53. | :17:59. | |
were not a I aI o' - allowed to own property or land in their own | :18:00. | :18:05. | |
country. It is just unbelievable the sort of just how huge it was. So it | :18:06. | :18:11. | |
is, it had changed and it has changed for them now. Somebody like | :18:12. | :18:16. | |
you, who has lived in multicultural and multiracial Britain, where | :18:17. | :18:24. | |
people can mix and can we talk about South Africa even today in the same | :18:25. | :18:29. | |
way that it is multiracial and that if you have a mixed marriage, people | :18:30. | :18:33. | |
won't turn over their shoulders and have a look? I think it is a work in | :18:34. | :18:39. | |
progress. I know people in mixed marriages. Members of my family are | :18:40. | :18:45. | |
in mixed marriages and friends are in mixed marriages. That is common | :18:46. | :18:50. | |
in South Africa? It is obviously, there are obviously still... Scars | :18:51. | :18:57. | |
that still have to heal. One thing you notice when you go back to South | :18:58. | :19:01. | |
Africa is the way race is talked about is different from how it is | :19:02. | :19:07. | |
here. But it is a progress of work, a work in progress and something | :19:08. | :19:12. | |
South Africans are open about and it is a discussion they're having. I | :19:13. | :19:17. | |
won't embarrass you by saying how old you are on air, but you're | :19:18. | :19:21. | |
relatively young and having been brought up in Europe you have got | :19:22. | :19:25. | |
friends from all different races and so on. This a the same case poor | :19:26. | :19:29. | |
people your aning in South Africa -- age in South Africa or younger | :19:30. | :19:33. | |
still. Is there a true meeting of the races? I think it depends on | :19:34. | :19:38. | |
your pack grounds. -- background. Many people my age wept to mixed -- | :19:39. | :19:42. | |
went to mixed schools. People younger than me are used to having | :19:43. | :19:47. | |
friendships across the colour divide. Maybe for people older than | :19:48. | :19:53. | |
me it may be more difficult. But the country is a work in progress. So | :19:54. | :19:59. | |
the rainbow coalition what is we have been talking about. Thank you. | :20:00. | :20:11. | |
Nelson Mandela's contribution to South Africa is almost immeasurable | :20:12. | :20:15. | |
for averting a descent possibly into civil war during the difficult path | :20:16. | :20:19. | |
to democracy. To look at his legacy in more detail, I am joined by | :20:20. | :20:24. | |
William Gumede, author of several highly acclaimed books and also | :20:25. | :20:29. | |
wrote the foreword to the collection of Nelson Mandela's writings and | :20:30. | :20:33. | |
speeches. Would you say the overriding achievement of Nelson | :20:34. | :20:39. | |
Mandela is he is often quoted almost single-handedly from preventing | :20:40. | :20:43. | |
South Africa descending into civil war's exactly. Exactly. The | :20:44. | :20:51. | |
constitutional democracy that we have here now I'll also he set a | :20:52. | :20:58. | |
gold standard for Democratic leadership, South Africans will | :20:59. | :21:03. | |
always be able to compare ourselves to what should be equality. There | :21:04. | :21:10. | |
are those who say that Nelson went too far in stretching his hand out | :21:11. | :21:18. | |
to the Afrikaners and not doing enough to dismantle the economic | :21:19. | :21:21. | |
supremacy of the white South Africa. In the early 90s, the big | :21:22. | :21:30. | |
thing for Mandela and the focus of all Hobbit his energy was -- all of | :21:31. | :21:37. | |
his energy, bringing South Africans like and whites together. His focus | :21:38. | :21:46. | |
was not an the economy. If you go back to South Africa in around 994, | :21:47. | :21:51. | |
it was a period of time where we were taught the prospects and it was | :21:52. | :22:00. | |
chance for him to hitting piece -- for him to get peace. He will hand | :22:01. | :22:07. | |
over to his successors rather than focusing on the economic side of it. | :22:08. | :22:12. | |
There has been lots of progress economic league in South Africa but | :22:13. | :22:17. | |
still a great deal to do. There is a great deal of dissatisfaction that | :22:18. | :22:23. | |
there is not the advancement that lots of people would like. Do people | :22:24. | :22:28. | |
feel they would have liked Nelson Mandela to have used his authority | :22:29. | :22:33. | |
and integrity to better lay the foundations for that kind of | :22:34. | :22:41. | |
progress? Really, if we look back at the Democratic negotiations in the | :22:42. | :22:45. | |
90s, what Nelson Mandela could have done better, they could have focused | :22:46. | :22:50. | |
more robustly on economic negotiations. There was a naivete | :22:51. | :22:57. | |
from the ANC negotiators but it was a time when activists and those who | :22:58. | :23:01. | |
were journalists and researchers said we did not press the point to | :23:02. | :23:08. | |
focus on the economy much more strongly. There was the naive belief | :23:09. | :23:16. | |
that all one needs to do is just to take elliptical power and once you | :23:17. | :23:20. | |
have that power, it will be easy to push forward and economic | :23:21. | :23:27. | |
transformation project. The reality is not so easy. What about the | :23:28. | :23:32. | |
Mandela name? We know he has a rather large family and some wayward | :23:33. | :23:38. | |
members who have not perhaps been brought under control. What do you | :23:39. | :23:42. | |
think will happen to be name of Mandela now that he is no longer | :23:43. | :23:47. | |
here? The Mandela name is a global brand. He was even bigger than the | :23:48. | :23:52. | |
ANC and there is right now a battle for the Mandela name and it is | :23:53. | :24:00. | |
associated -- and what it is associated with. We ask people to | :24:01. | :24:12. | |
respect the democratic values and the caring values he stood for. His | :24:13. | :24:15. | |
political life, his integrity. To focus on that rather than to demean | :24:16. | :24:23. | |
the Mandela brand and name. Thank you, William Gumede. Let's take a | :24:24. | :24:30. | |
shot rake away from those events in South Africa and bring you a summary | :24:31. | :24:34. | |
of some of the other main stories today. Hundreds of people here in | :24:35. | :24:38. | |
the UK have been mopping up flooded homes after hurricane force winds | :24:39. | :24:41. | |
kicked up tidal surges across northern Europe. Rising waters | :24:42. | :24:47. | |
prompted thousands of evacuations on the eastern English coast. In one | :24:48. | :24:51. | |
town, houses fell into the sea as waves eroding cliffs. Police in | :24:52. | :24:59. | |
Egypt have views tear gas to end clashes. Today's competition began | :25:00. | :25:04. | |
when pro-Muslim Brotherhood supporters came face to face with | :25:05. | :25:08. | |
opposing crowds. Supporters have held regular protests. | :25:09. | :25:18. | |
That's reminding of our main story, the South African President Jacob | :25:19. | :25:21. | |
Zuma has been leading the tributes to Nelson Mandela who died on | :25:22. | :25:27. | |
Thursday night at the age of 95 Mr Zuma said the outpouring of love was | :25:28. | :25:31. | |
unprecedented. He said Nelson Mandela had taught South Africans it | :25:32. | :25:35. | |
was possible to overcome hatred and to build a new nation. We leave you | :25:36. | :25:38. | |
with some reaction to his death. Goodbye. | :25:39. | :25:43. | |
The founding president of our democratic nation has departed. | :25:44. | :25:55. | |
# When I get older, I will be stronger, | :25:56. | :26:06. | |
# Born to a throne... He achieved more than can be | :26:07. | :26:14. | |
expected of any man. Today he has gone home. His legacy is so | :26:15. | :26:22. | |
powerful, he will live for generations. For an African to stand | :26:23. | :26:29. | |
out and not to fear everything, to feel confident, that is what he | :26:30. | :26:33. | |
taught us. He is celebrated because when he went to prison, lots of | :26:34. | :26:39. | |
people have gone to prison and have gone back. He forgave. | :26:40. | :26:47. | |
# When I get older, I will be stronger, they will be freedom. | :26:48. | :26:57. | |
Good evening. The storm which battered as yesterday has been | :26:58. | :27:02. | |
causing all sorts of problems in Europe and the last 24 hours, racing | :27:03. | :27:06. | |
across Denmark, Scandinavia, battering the north coast of Poland, | :27:07. | :27:09. | |
blizzards here and ending up nudging into Belarus and western Russia. For | :27:10. | :27:12. | |
into Belarus and western Russia For us, it has become more quiet. But | :27:13. | :27:17. | |
there is a bit of snow on the way tonight. Light and patchy rain for | :27:18. | :27:22. | |
most of us but across parts of Scotland and into northern England, | :27:23. | :27:25. | |
some snow and an ice risk for the morning. Lots of cloudy skies across | :27:26. | :27:32. | |
northern England tomorrow and East Anglia looking, a bit calmer. Some | :27:33. | :27:44. | |
rain but a bit damp for most of us towards the south of | :27:45. | :27:45. |