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This is BBC World News Today with me Philippa Thomas.

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How much more will be destroyed in Syria?

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who's just announced he's stepping down.

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Lakhdar Brahimi announced his decision at the UN,

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where the Security Council must now consider what to do next

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A senior Nigerian minister has called for dialogue with Boko Haram,

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the Islamist militant group that kidnapped more than 200 schoolgirls,

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Nigeria says "all options are open" to secure the girls' release.

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As Ukraine's eastern rebels insist on their right to independence,

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the BBC has an exclusive interview with the Ukraine's Prime Minister,

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who says Russia is trying to build a new Berlin Wall.

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A victory for privacy or a failure for freedom of information?

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Why a court's decision on Google is dividing opinion.

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And the man behind the monster. We'll hear about

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the creator of the Alien in Ridley Scott's epic horror film,

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The international Syria mediator, Lakhdar Brahimi, has confirmed that

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he'll step down from the role at the end of this month.

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His decision was announced at the UN in New York.

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Mr Brahimi was thanked by the UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon

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for his work chairing two rounds of talks between the Syrian government

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But his announcement came as a sharp reminder that the process

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has failed to yield any agreement on a transitional government,

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Everybody who has a responsibility and inflation has to remember that

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the question is how many more dead? How much more destruction there will

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be before Syria becomes again this area we have known? The new city are

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different from the one of the past, -- new Syria, the one we have loved

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and admired for many years. With with his experience,

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I thought and we thought, and it was a natural expectation

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that he would be able to deliver and we would have

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been able to deliver altogether. But somehow,

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because of the division, because of the divided world, here

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and there, and within the United Nations and

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the region, we have not been able to make any progress

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in the course of these three years. and many people have been displaced

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internally. The Nigerian government says it's

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prepared to talk to the extremist group that has

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kidnapped over 200 schoolgirls. Some of the schoolgirls have been

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identified by relatives from a video released by their captors,

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the Islamist militants Boko Haram. The government had earlier

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refused to negotiate with those Our World Affairs editor, John

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Simpson, has been to the extreme North-east of Nigeria and sent this

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report. These pictures have been

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scanned with immense care by the families

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of the missing girls. And there has been just

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a little movement After the scornful message yesterday

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by Boko Haram's leader, that they would

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only give the girls back in exchange for captured Boko Haram militants,

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a government minister has said they are trying to get talks

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underway. It hasn't worked in the past,

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but it could now. In the skies above us here

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in north-east Nigeria, American surveillance planes have

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started operating, hunting for any sign of the girls.

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But there is still no indication the Nigerian government is stepping

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up its efforts. This is Maiduguri Airport, which

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serves the capital of a state which You might expect the aprons here to

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be packed with military aircraft. I asked a local senator why

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so little was being done. The international community must

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put pressure on the government. Because on their own, left to them,

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they don't care, because it is not Hence the fury in places

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like the town of Gamboru, The governor came here to

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offer help and money. But

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the survivors are working themselves up into a frenzy of anger that the

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Nigerian government should be doing The governor was lucky

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to get away unhurt. The governor and all of the rest

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of us are being thrown out So we are having to get back to

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our cars pretty quickly. And they can't understand why

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a world which cares so much

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about the missing schoolgirls seems to care so little about

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the destruction of an entire town. Germany's Foreign Minister has

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held talks with Ukraine's He says it is now crucial that

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the two sides, government The minister's visit comes

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a day after separatists in eastern Ukraine declared independence after

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an unofficial referendum at the weekend, which Russia has recognised

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but which the West rejects. The BBC's Ben Wright

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in Brussels has this exclusive interview with the Ukrainian prime

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minister Arseny Yatsenyuk. What is happening today in Ukraine

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is not only a threat to Ukraine. This is a threat to

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the entire Europe. And trying to build up a new Berlin

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wall. Do you think now is the moment

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for the European Union to increase significantly the sanctions they are

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applying to Russia? They finance and support Russian-led

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terrorists and separatists They are doing everything they can

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to disrupt presidential elections in Ukraine not to have

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a legitimate president. It seems the ultimate goal

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of the Russian President and regime Russia will fail

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in making Ukraine a failed state. But my question to you therefore is

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at what moment do you want talk of tougher sanctions within the

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European Union to turn into action? It is high time to have

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tougher sanctions on Russia. How do you describe

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the current situation in Ukraine? There was the referendum

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at the weekend that we do not have There was the referendum

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at the weekend that you do not But pro-Russian separatists

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in that part of your country have no still don't have control over many

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government buildings. They are occupied

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by heavily armed people. It is a chaotic situation over

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which you do not have any control, We do understand that the majority

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of Ukrainians, including those who live in eastern and southern

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Ukraine, supported Ukraine as one united. On the other hand,

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we do understand and acknowledge And the best way to resolve these

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problems is to have a nationwide dialogue that we launched two months

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cannot have dialogue with terrorists who are holding and possessing live

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ammunition and machine guns. We are willing to talk to

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the Ukrainian people, How do you ensure that these

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elections are legitimate? We are doing everything that is

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needed to have free We do understand that we have

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a number of hotspots And my government will do

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everything, and will undertake all And we acknowledge that, in some

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areas, it will be difficult. To hold elections and allow everyone

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freely to cast the ballot. And it is difficult to cast a ballot

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having the barrel at your hand. Mainly pointed

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by these Russian-led terrorists. But we are absolutely sure that we

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will pass these elections and we Let's talk to the BBC's David Stern

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in the Ukrainian capital Kiev. We have gathered German Foreign

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Minister talk of dialogue, but just there the acting Prime Minster say

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you cannot hide dialogue with Terrell is -- with terrorists as he

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sees it. That is a bit of an impasse?

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It is, and difficult to get the sites to talk to each other. And

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clashes are ongoing. Part of the German's Foreign Minister's job was

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to get both sides to stop using force, but a few hours ago, we have

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that the pro-Russian separatists attacked a group of Ukrainian

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government forces, and armed personnel carrier, dealing seven and

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wounding seven, the worst single day loss for the Army so far. It is

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difficult to see if they can come together to talk at the very moment.

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But that the moment, this will make the job more difficult in the

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upcoming days for the European Union to bring some kind of reduction in

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the escalation of this crisis. Other voices in Kiev, in Parliament,

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saying they do have to talk to stop this getting worse? There are many

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voices saying there needs to be a dialogue. You heard the prime

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ministers saying there needs to be a nationwide dialogue. They are going

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to hold a round table tomorrow in Parliament. But neither side wants

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to talk to the other. The government says it will not talk to terrorists

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and the pro-Russian separatists say they will not talk to the

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government. They say they have declared their independence. It is

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an impasse to overcome. But perhaps, if the situation escalates further,

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maybe cool heads will prevail and managed to bring them to the table,

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or at least some proxies to the table to speak for them. Thank you.

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A top European Court has ruled that people have the

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right to ask Google to delete personal data. The

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European Union Court of Justice says some

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individuals have the right to "be forgotten" when information about

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them is irrelevant or outdated. The European Justice Commissioner

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Viviane Reding says this is a "clear victory for the protection of

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personal data of European". Google says it's disappointed and has

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argued that forcing it to remove data amounts to censorship.

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Viktor Mayer-Schonberger is Professor of Internet Governance

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and Regulation at the University of Oxford.

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The Virtue of Forgetting in the Digital Age.

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He joins me via webcam from Frankfurt in Germany.

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Welcome to the programme. This is quite a blow to Google? I think so,

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but Google must have expected it, losing some court cases in France,

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Germany, and Spain, though this is just another blow. Does it set a

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precedent for other Internet companies? I think other search

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engines will certainly take notice. But we must also put this in

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perspective. In this case, an individual went to the national data

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protection authority in Spain, with a complaint, and that authority

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agreed, asking Google to take down a link to a particular web page. No

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web page was taken down, just the link.

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link to a particular web page. No web And Google did not comply, that

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is the basis of this court case, which will require people to go to

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local authorities to force Google to take links down. You can imagine,

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with their being millions of Internet users, there could be many

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requests which could clog up law courts at the least? Very unlikely,

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because the fact is the European Court of Justice did today, in a

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relatively balanced decision, was not to invent a new right, but

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reaffirm and we state the right on the books or 20 years. And in these

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20 years, very few individuals have exercised that right, so I do not

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perceive thousands or even hundreds of thousands of people exercising

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their right and going to authorities, because that takes time

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and money. In fact, Google already is inundated, not with requests for

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more privacy, requests to remove links from -- pointing to

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intellectual priority by lesions. It raises the conceptual idea of can be

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re-right past? -- intellectual priority violations. The challenge

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is that human forgetting performs an important function, allowing us to

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evolve and grow, to go beyond what we wear ten or 15 years ago. And as

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the digital tools link us to this past, to this comprehensive memory,

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we have difficulties evolving and growing, which may have

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repercussions on how we as a society and individuals forgive. Very good

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to speak to you. Thank you. Let us go back to our lead story. The

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special envoy to Syria is about to stand down from his role. I suppose

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this is an admission of failure? Yes, and not a surprising one. We

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have known that he wanted to step down. He tried to bring the talks

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together in Geneva. The parties came together, but there wasn't any

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significant headway made at the talks. After that he signalled that

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his time in the job was numbered. The diplomatic track had come to a

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halt. When President Assad announced elections, there was talk of him

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stepping down. When he indicated he wanted to stand for election, there

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was no point in carrying on. We know that he will be meeting members of

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the UN council, but whether we go from here? It is all about the

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dynamic. There are divisions that exist on the Security Council that

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don't help. That dynamic has made meaningful diplomacy so difficult

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over the last three years and the Syrian envoy's job has been occupied

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by two senior UN officials. They are experienced diplomats and they are

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well known troubleshooters. They have helped in situations before

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like Iraq and Afghanistan, that Syria has been beyond both of their

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skills and whoever takes over faces one of the most thankless and

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difficult jobs in world diplomacy. Thank you. Let as have we've looked

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at some of today's other news. Let us

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go back to our lead story. The special envoy to Syria is about to

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stand down from his role. I suppose Jordan's ambassador to Libya has

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returned home after being The Envoy, Fawaz al-ltan,

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was released unharmed and was flown Meanwhile, Jordan has freed a Libyan

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militant whose release was reportedly demanded by the

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kidnappers, though it denies there The International Criminal Court

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in the Hague says it will launch a preliminary investigation

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into claims of abuse by It will be the first time Britain

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has been the subject of an ICC This follows a submission by lawyers

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alleging more than 400 cases of More than 200 miners in Turkey have

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been trapped underground after an explosion and fire at a coal mine

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in the west of the country. It's believed

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at least four men have died and the fire may still be burning.

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Our correspondence is there. Please bring us up to date. We are getting

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our information from the Turkish energy minister. He said he did not

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want to speculate over how many miners were killed and how many arch

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wrapped. One local MP says that three people have been killed, but I

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should stress he has change those figures throughout the day. Local

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officials and union officials say that perhaps between two and 300

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people, miners that is, may be trapped. They may be several

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kilometres underground and they made the trapped because the elevator is

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they use to get to the service are out of action because there is no

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electricity. Oxygen is being pumped down to the miners.

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Turkey does not have a very good record on mine safety.

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It hasn't. 19 miners were previously killed in various accidents across

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the country. In the last few years they have tried to get more coal

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mines going to limit the importation of gas. Some of the opposition

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parties actually got together to ask Rushton is about safety concerns and

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they say the government did not answer those questions. They will

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certainly be asked again tonight. It is suspected that a local politician

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in Spain was killed in a revenge attack. All European election

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campaigning has been suspended. United in grief after the murder of

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one of the Spanish's -- this Spanish's city leading politician.

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Although this solution has -- although this problem has no

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immediate solution, we are united in our grief. Woman-macro was shot

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several times in broad daylight near her home. Spanish politics is

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normally a polarised sometimes tribal affair. Today there is unity

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on all sides. All main political parties have suspended campaigning

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for the European elections due in less than two weeks time. A mother

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and daughter have been arrested. Both suspects reportedly had links

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to the popular party in Lyon. According to one report, just days

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ago the younger woman was denied compensation for losing her job at

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the local authority. The artist responsible for designing the

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monsters on the film Alien has died. Person-macro was also known for his

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sculptures. Whitney is Ian Nathan, the executive editor of Empire

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magazine. We have never seen anything quite like this monster on

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our screens, have we? We haven't. I think Ridley Scott liked him because

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he was getting frustrated with science fiction conventions. When he

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came on board, there was a clean cut sci-fi universe. He was told to go

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against that. He was frustrated with the tentacle beasts that he had been

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shown in diagrams. One day the screenwriter sat him down and handed

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him a collection of person-macro's art. Ridley Scott said, this is the

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guy. What he difficult to work with? He was a complicated man. He had

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amazing ideas, although the studio were wary of him and were horrified

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when they saw his designs. When Ridley Scott came on board, he loved

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what HR Giger was doing. And this film changed the nature of the

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genre. It was transformative. Whether it is science fiction horror

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is always questionable. But HR Giger's contribution was more than

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just the monster. He designed the planet that the aliens came from.

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Scott thought it was wonderful that you could never tell quite where the

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mechanism stopped and the biology began. That is exactly what he

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wanted, a thing of nightmares. It truly represented the idea of Alien.

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The hairs are standing up on the back of my neck as you talk about

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it. It was something that stayed with you. It not into your psyche,

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just watching it. That is right. There are Freudian undertones and it

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is very for luck, but HR Giger said the arts came from his own

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nightmares. He lived in a house with very few windows when he was a

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child. He used to dream about pipes and mechanisms covered in human

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skin. At that awful point, we have to leave it.

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skin. At that awful point, we have to leave Thank you for joining us.

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Some of us will be experiencing the warmest weather of the year so far

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later this week. High pressure is building up and the changes will be

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noticed from tomorrow. Here comes the high-pressure, but there will be

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these weather

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