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The authorities say they have prevented a major new attack

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A woman blew herself up and the following today's raid linked to

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A woman blew herself up and the suspect was shot dead after armed

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officers stormed the department suspect was shot dead after armed

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dawn raid in the suburb of Saint Eight people were arrested. French

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officials confirmed the suspected mastermind and accomplice were not

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among those detained. The identity of the people who were arrested are

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not absolutely certain. But Abaaoud and Abdeslam are not part of the

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people who have been arrested. More than 1000 people have taken part in

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a district of Brussels where one of the key suspects had lived.

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Including the brother and cousin of Sala Abdeslam, one of the wanted men

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who stepped out onto the balcony of their home to mourn the victims.

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Hello and welcome to Paris. After a day of drama and more bloodshed. A

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raid by police this morning just before dawn left to suspected

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terrorists dead and eight people under arrest. It's not clear though,

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if France's most wanted man, the ringleader who was believed to have

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organised last Friday's atrocities, was among the dead. He certainly

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wasn't detained. Let's bring you the latest. The French authorities are

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saying they believe today's raid may have thwarted another major attack,

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this time in Paris's financial district. This morning's predawn

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raid took place about 12 kilometres north of where I am standing, in the

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suburb of Saint Denis, which is very close to the stat to France, which

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was targeted by the militants on Friday, killed dozens of people. The

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area has a high proportion of people from ethnic minorities. Heavily

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armed police were deployed, the one of the main shopping streets. The

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actual apartment which was the target of their operation was on a

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side street. In a moment we will hear from the Paris prosecutor but

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before we listen to him, it must be pointed out that France's most

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wanted man, Abaaoud, the man they believed had been in Syria, it's not

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clear if he is among the two dead suspected terrorists, killed in this

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morning's raid. The female suspected terrorist charged police with a

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suicide vest before blowing herself up, it's reported. First, this

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report by Lucy Williamson. In the darkened streets

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of this northern suburb, France is The target,

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the country's most wanted man, Abdelhamid Abaaoud, alleged

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mastermind of Friday's attacks. If ever a raid was personal,

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this was it. Residents were pulled from buildings

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in their nightclothes. The scale and threat of this

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operation quickly becoming clear. I tried to protect myself,

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holding my baby tight. They were explosions,

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we felt the building shake, there were guys upstairs screaming,

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"shoot, shoot". By first light as special forces

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carried out their assault, A woman inside the building had

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detonated her suicide vest. I heard gunfire, it went crazy,

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gunshots, explosions, here, there, It went on for ages,

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people were running everywhere. I didn't see anything terrible but I

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heard gunshots, snipers were firing, taking careful aim. There was a huge

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wave of bullets. By eight o'clock,

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with two suspects dead in the target Dozens of soldiers, brought

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in to help secure the streets. This dawn raid has turned

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into a major operation. Truckloads of soldiers have been

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brought in after hours It's a sign

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of just how dangerous the hunt is Without warning, riot police

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break through their cordon, fanning It's nothing, it's over quickly,

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but the jitteriness remains. Out of sight in an empty courtyard,

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the rewards of this assault are In all, seven people were arrested

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this morning, including this man. Handcuffed, under heavy guard,

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his face uncovered. Police have been hunting one

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of Friday's attackers. In his wake,

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clutching their children, terrified, Behind them at the building

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entrance, forces begin to pile in. Above them,

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residents slowly absorbed the news. The attacks here last week targeted

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everyone, but just as hard for France to stomach is that anyone

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can be an attacker too. In the past hour, the executed has

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said that the raid had eliminated the team of suspected jihad ease

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behind Friday's attack and also said they had been planning new attacks

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here in the capital. -- the team of suspected jihad thes. The operation

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was successful in that three men were arrested, one of them was

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injured, the police arrested them and identification is being done at

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the moment. I cannot have you any element regarding these people at

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the moment. There was also an explosion which suggested there was

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a kamikaze operation, a body full of impact was found in the rubble of

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the building. At this stage it's not possible to identify this person who

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did the state of the body. We have been given to an explosion following

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the action of a woman who detonated an explosive belt, this will have to

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be checked still considering the state of the bodies and the shreds

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of bodies, so this demands serious investigation and it's not easy.

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Would we have seen in the building makes it extremely difficult. I am

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not able to give you precise information about the identity of

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these people who have died, except there are at least two people dead,

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but it will take longer than expected because the building may

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collapse, so we have the support some of the ball to allow the

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enquiry team to work in safety. -- some of the wall. We found two men,

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one of them in the flat, one of them injured, they were immediately

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arrested. Other operations continue in another flat in Saint Denis, at

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the home of a man who was in touch with the commando and may have given

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accommodation. This flat was empty but I -- I suspect was arrested in

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the street near the flat where the terrorists have found refuge

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together with a woman. The search in the flat has not brought any weapon

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or explosive forward so far. Another was also injured in the road has

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also been arrested. In total, eight people have been arrested, seven men

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and one woman are currently being interrogated. The identity of the

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four who were arrested are not certain, but Abaaoud and Abdeslam

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are not part of the people who have been arrested. The investigation

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will continue to identify those who were killed, those who are arrested

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and all those who make have been implicated in one way or another in

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this attack, either in France or in Syria.

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It may last for days, people have been coming here to lay flowers and

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candles -- in the last four base. People have said yes, they hoped

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they could feel more relieved that they were worried about what might

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come in the future, especially as they now understood and believed

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President Hollande that this country was now at war with Isla make state,

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or Daesh, as he described it. -- Islamic State. Let's speak to a

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Paris journalist who knows the Saint Denis area well and the other

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ghettos, as some have described them, where a lot of North African

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immigrants live. What is your immediate response to today, it laid

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Paris any safer if Abaaoud has been killed? Many questions need to be

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answered, we don't have the identities of the terrorists yet, it

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maybe they are part of a larger network in the rest of France, and

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it's worrying that this guy was supposed to be in Syria and was

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basically hiding in plain sight under the nose of the Paris police

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forces. This raises a lot of questions. The fact he may be

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killed, maybe it makes the city say just for now but it doesn't mean the

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terrorist threat is gone. There are many other suburbs like Saint Denis.

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Where does the radicalisation take place? There are two things, you

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have these huge suburbs, not only in Paris but in other large cities of

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the country, there are about 20 million people living in them, these

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are not serenade bad neighbourhoods but there are some very bad

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neighbourhoods, much worse than you would encounter in the UK. 'S is not

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even particularly bad, it's an old city, it's well-connected to the

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city -- Saint Denis is not even particularly bad. But there are

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places with no post office, no police, they feel disconnected with

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the country, and these areas are prone to radicalisation because

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sometimes the mosques or the churches, in this case the mosque,

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they are the only one who provide a social network. What about the

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prison system? That's also an important problem lot of these

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radicalised young people come in as petty thieves or drug dealers,

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stealing a car, they get out of the prison as radical potential

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terrorists because the situation in these prisons are horrible, most of

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them date from the 19th century, France has been convicted many times

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the European Court of Human Rights for their inhumane conditions so

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this is a perfect situation the newly young people and radicalise

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them and that's the real problem. We have seen all the terrorists

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involved and also with Charlie Hebdo, they all went to prison and

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came out as radicalised terrorists. How much will the next and it's a

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double emergency help the authorities and what is the

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counter-productive side? I am critical of this because it

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basically says we're going to put democracy on hold for three months,

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who says it will not be extended again and again? It's worrying

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because the French president and the French government already have all

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the stuff they need to attack terrorists, for instance what

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happened the night, they could have done that without a state of

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emergency from a legal point of view. So the state of emergency is

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just to show the French people, we are at war, we are doing something,

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I am the leader, you can trust me and let me do this. In three weeks

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from now, there are regional elections, very important one,

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Hollande is doing very badly in the polls, the leader of the National

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front is properly going to win so what Hollande announced on Monday is

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his way to allure boaters from the right to him. His critics will say

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he is in charge of intelligence agencies that have failed. Is that

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fair? It's too early to judge. If you see the terrorists who was the

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brain behind these attacks was hiding in Paris, he was supposed to

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be in Syria, it shows there is a real problem. At the heart of the

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problem is the exchange of information between intelligence

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services and the analysis of the data because a lot of people are

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under severe lives in France alone, 11,000 people are understood

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available, but the problem is you can't check all this data because

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there are not enough people. You can put thousands of literary personnel

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on the streets but as long as you intelligence services don't work

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properly we will continue to have these attacks. Let's go to the UK

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now and speak to a former counterterrorist detective, who is

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now a lecturer at Liverpool John Moores University. We are still not

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clear about the identity of two of the suspects killed today but in the

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short term, has Paris acted swiftly enough to get on top of this problem

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in the immediate short-term? I think this has been a major move for the

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better and if it is confirmed that Abaaoud has been captured,

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especially alive, this has been quite a coup, and it will certainly

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reduce the capability of Islamic State in the short-term, because you

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look at how cells operate, you still beat some organisation and I think

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the arrests in Belgium and France will have had some effect. If

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I briefly lost communication there. We know that the two hasn't been

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captured, what is unclear is if he may be one of the dead terrorists --

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we know that Abaaoud hasn't been captured. When it comes to the

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surveillance, though, is this really another wake-up call for all

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European countries to be far more amateur night, come together much

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more with sharing intelligence? I think so. On the policing side,

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because you have the security services and the police, there is a

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greater degree of sharing amongst policing agencies and through

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agencies like the EU, it is a sticking point when we were

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discussing the Treaty of Lisbon in 2009 over the sharing of

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intelligence services, maybe this could be one way forward, an

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increase in sharing this. We are looking at a group that is a truly

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international threat, you look at the actions they have done over the

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last 12 months. So it needs that international response. So the

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security services and the police should now really look to share this

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information amongst each other. Russia is involved in this. Even

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looking to sharing information with the FSB and vice versa.

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Thank you very much indeed. There is a very strong Belgian connection

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here as we have seen. The mastermind is a Belgian national and it does

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seem as if these attacks last Friday were planned in Syria, the teams

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were then put together through Belgium and then executed here in

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Paris with the help of compasses here in France as well. --

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compasses. The Brussels district of Molenbeek is linked particularly

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with Friday's attacks and today there has been a vigil in memory of

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those who lost their lives on Friday. This is the central square

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in Molenbeek, you will be able to see that hundreds have come here

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tonight to lay candles. The positioning thing along the word

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Molenbeek. And the 00 over here has a peace sign, or perhaps the Eiffel

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Tower, Finley how you want to read it. Lots of young people as well,

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we're that the mayor in this square this evening, lots of people

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standing in solidarity with the victims in Paris. Interestingly,

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this is also a square just in front of the apartment of the Abdeslam

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family, you will see candles shining on the balcony. A few minutes ago,

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Mohammed Abdeslam, who is the brother of the man who is still on

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the run, came out to lay candles, their family are still in shock.

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Mohammed asked yesterday for his brother to give yourself up. This is

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an effort by the community to show there is solidarity, remember there

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are three attackers from here, there is now an international manhunt and

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the secure the's office has told me that the manhunt is ongoing.

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Hazard-macro said the aim of the raids was to

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these actions confirm again that we are at war. The war against

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terrorism which itself has decided to launch war against us. The

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jihadist organisation of ISIL, it has an army, financial sources,

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oil, resources and it occupies a territory, it has accomplices in

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Europe and in our own country. ISIL has committed massacres and wants to

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commit murders here and it has done so. At least 129 people were

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killed, lost their lives on the night of the 13th of November. Our

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thoughts are with them, with these men and women who have been cowardly

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assassinated, we're thinking about their families, who have been thrown

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into pain, grief. But these attacks concern all the French, wherever

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they live in French territory, because it is the entire country

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that has been attacked, for the simple reason that it represents,

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the values it holds, we want to eradicate terrorism, and for the

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simple reason of what we are. Aim of the terrorists was to target the

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idea of France itself. The liberty that France has, universal

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right-sided defends, -- universal rights that its defends, this is

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what has been attacked during the night of the 13th of November.

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Because these barbaric people in their blind violence have targeted

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the diversity of the French people, irrespective of the origin, colour,

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religion. It is the use of France that was the target, because it

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represented the vitality, the generosity and the liberty, simply

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speaking, life. A man whose wife died

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in the attacks last week has written Antoine Leiris says he will never

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forget Helene but he and their little boy will not be

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made to live in fear or hate. On Friday night, you stole away

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the life of an exceptional being. The love of my life,

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the mother of my son. I do not know who you are and I

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don't want to know. If the God for whom you

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kill so blindly made us in his image, each bullet in my wife's body

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would mean a wound in his heart. Therefore, I will not give you

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the gift of hating you. Responding to hatred with anger

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would be to give in to the same ignorance that has

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made you what you are. You want me to be afraid,

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to cast a mistrustful eye on my fellow citizens, to sacrifice

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my freedom for security, you lost. I saw her this morning, she was just

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as beautiful as she was when she left home on Friday evening, as

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beautiful as when I fell madly in love with her more than 12 years

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ago. Of course I am devastated with

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grief, I know that she will join us every

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day and that we will find each other again in the paradise of free souls

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which you will never have access to. The Paris prosecutor,

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Francois Molins, says a pre-dawn raid by police

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on an apartment in the city stopped At a news conference, he said eight

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people had been arrested during the operation, but they didn't include

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the suspected mastermind of Friday's At least two bodies were found

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in the apartment in Saint-Denis after the shoot out with police, but

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they have not yet been identified. Police are still looking for

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another suspect, Salah Abdelsalam.

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