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British MPs are debating whether to authorise joining the US, France and

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others in air strikes against the so-called Islamic State in Syria.

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Making the case for bombing, Prime Minister David Cameron said

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Britain needs to tackle an urgent threat to its national security.

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And this is the scene live inside the House of Commons where

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the debate is set to continue for up to another six hours.

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Russia claims these images show tankers carrying oil from IS

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territory to Turkey and accuses the Turkish President of involvement.

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The heaviest monsoon rains in over a century hit Chennai

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More than 180 people have died so far.

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After the birth of their daughter, Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg

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and his wife donate nearly all their shares to charity.

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British MPs are now eight hours into a debate on whether to approve

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UK airstrikes against so-called Islamic State targets in Syria.

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The House of Commons is expected to vote

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The debate was opened by the Prime Minister , who warned that Britain

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couldn't afford to sit back and wait for an attack here in the UK.

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But David Cameron faced persistent criticism from opposition MPs after

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he described those against air strikes as terrorist sympathisers.

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The leader of the opposition Labour Party, Jeremy Corbyn, warned against

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an ill-thought-out rush to war and said the government's plans could

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We'll get an in-depth report from the BBC's political editor,

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Our correspondent, Rob Watson, is at Westminster for us.

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David Cameron confident that he will win this boat. He is confident and

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he said he would not even be holding if he wasn't sure because that would

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just give a propaganda victory to so-called Islamic State. What the

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Prime Minister thinks has really changed, the tone of political

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position in the UK, where the attacks in Paris. So David Cameron

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feels that the mood had changed here and of course that he has made the

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case that Britain needs to be part of the action along with its allies,

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particularly France. The argument has been going on all day. What

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timescale are we looking out for the boat and action? Am I allowed to

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look quickly at my watch? I would say probably in about three hours

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for the vote, it will conclude a long day. As for action, I don't

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think there is any doubt that the government will be sitting around

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afterwards. In the days and hours after the vote, you would expect to

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see British planes flying from their base in Cyprus and engaging in

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action in Syria. British planes already involved in action in Iraq.

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What difference does David Cameron so this would make? To be bettered

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the Prime Minister, he has been incredibly careful ever since he

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thought he could make the case again for trying to persuade the British

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Parliament to extend action to Syria to be modest. He is not saying this

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will be a game changer or decisive or move Syria swiftly towards a

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political solution. He is just making the case that on balance,

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it's probably better in his view to take the fight Islamic State in

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their heartland rather than try to fight them here and that although

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British air strikes would be decisive, they will degrade Islamic

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State and keep them on the defensive. What point would be most

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controversial and keep them on the defensive. What point would be most

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controversial moderate fighters that could be lied with a coalition?

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There is the big picture disagreement in the smaller more

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logistical picture. The big picture disagreement is represented by

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Jeremy Corbyn. He says in general, Western military interventions in

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that part of the world have not been a great success. But there have been

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other more specific disagreements with MPs saying, what exactly is the

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overall plan? How does this lead to a political solution? If we were to

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degrade Islamic State will ship them from their bases, who would be the

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ground forces to take over. David Cameron had mentioned this figure of

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70,000 fighters on the ground. A lot of MPs are sceptical. But it's

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important to stress on balance, most MPs take the view that something

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should be done. Does that mean they fully support it? Not at all. That

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reservation even applies to the government and that is why the

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action will be cared because people think on balance something needs to

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be done. It is the biggest decision a

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Prime Minister makes. This morning David Cameron left

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for the Commons to make his case, confident he has the support in

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Parliament for UK military action. The RAF is already dropping bombs

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on IS targets in Iraq and the Government says that must

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now be extended across the border, joining countries including

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the United States and France As MPs poured into Parliament,

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a big question was how many Labour The party is deeply divided

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on the issue. Opening the debate

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in a packed Commons Chamber, David Cameron said there was no simple

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answer, but the choice was clear. This threat is very real

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and the question is this - do we work with our allies to degrade

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and destroy this threat and do we go after these terrorists in their

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heartlands from where they are Or do we sit back and wait

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for them to attack us? The Prime Minister's attempt to

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brand those who planned to vote against the government as terrorist

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sympathisers demeans the office of Prime Minister and undermined the

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seriousness of the deliberations were having today. If you want to

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apologise that the remarks, I would be happy to give way for him to do

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so. If the government does winter might's vote, these planes made very

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soon be heading to the Syrian region.

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Well, our chief international correspondent, Lyse Doucet, is in

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the Syrian capital, Damascus and she told me how the prospect of British

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warplanes flying above Syrian skies is being received there.

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The morning newspapers didn't even mention the British vote

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in Parliament and still hasn't been on the evening news.

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And that is partly a measure of just how many players are now

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involved on one side or another in this tangled conflict and partly

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a measure of just how hard life is here for Syrians, and they are just

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But everyone I ask a question to about possible British

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action against the so-called Islamic State welcomed it.

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But in this capital, which is largely under government control,

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they also had a warning, saying that unless the campaign was coordinated

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with President Assad and the Syrian army, it simply wouldn't work.

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Now, that is what Russia is doing but that is what the West and Arab

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states backing the Syrian opposition refuse to do,

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blaming President Assad's forces for the ferocious bombardment which

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So there's a real heavy sense here among people that they just think

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the war is going to drag on and, of course, life will continue just

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The Syrian opposition says defeating IS won't solve

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Monzer Akbik, a member of the Syrian National

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Coalition, has been speaking to the BBC's Hardtalk programme.

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He told Zeinab Badawi that tackling IS has to go

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You cannot a decisive end, you cannot completely eradicate Isis and

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have a sustainable campaign that would lead to a complete success

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unless the danger from the regime and its allies is succeeded or

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ended. They are both important. The confrontation should continue but

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you cannot reach a final result with Isis unless you get the most

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important, the biggest front, with the regime that has to be some kind

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of ceasefire or political solution. Something has to happen there in

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order for the people to make a sustainable and successful campaign

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against Isis. You can watch the full interview. I will be on Thursday

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this week. The rift between Russia and Turkey

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has widened with Moscow accusing the Turkish President's family

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of involvment in the smuggling of oil from areas controlled

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by the so-called Islamic State The allegation has been vehemently

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rejected by President Erdogan. Russian defence officials produced

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satellite images which they said showed tankers carrying oil

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from IS-held territory into Turkey. Turkey is the main consumer of the

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oil stolen from its rightful owners, Syria and Iraq. According to

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information we have received, the senior political leaders of the

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country are involved in this criminal business.

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Mr Erdogan has dismissed the claim, promising to resign

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No one has the right to slander Turkey by accusing it of buying oil.

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Turkey has not lost its values. In a moment, we'll hear from

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Emre Temel of BBC's Turkish service but first, this assessment

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from Famil Ismailov of BBC Russian. They gave us some numbers. They said

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8500 tankers involved in transporting 200,000 barrels of oil

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to turkey at least and crossing through the Turkish border and as

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Russian military say, that brings $2 billion to be Islamic State. They

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didn't show any evidence per se but showed pictures of big cars,

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tankers, on the border. They showed convoys of tankers moving along the

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roads but who do they belong to? What do we know it's happening on

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the ground? Nobody 's nose. He said the information they have got does

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not have to be proven or approved. He said this information will help

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to fight terrorism. Emre Temel from the

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BBC's Turkish Service says none of the evidence produced

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by the Russians linked President Obviously, Turkey increased controls

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over the last few months and is under intense pressure from Western

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allies to do more against the fight... Against Isis. The US

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actually wants to escalate the tension and is putting that

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aspiration on Turkey and Russia to do the same. President Obama talked

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to the presidents of Turkey and Russia at the climate summit and

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asked them both to refocus their efforts on combating terrorism. But

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Russians are very angry. Mr Putin rejected to meet him and is still

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waiting for an apology. No apology. The Turkish President is very clear

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on this issue. He refuses to apologise by saying Moscow should

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apologise instead. Returning now to our main story -

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the ongoing debate in the British Parliament on whether MPs

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should approve UK airstrikes against so-called Islamic State

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targets in Syria. If the RAF air strikes go ahead,

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possibly within hours of tonight's vote, they will involve

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jets taking off from the RAF's base The BBC's defence correspondent,

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Jonathan Beale, is there. How important is that base for

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operations in the region? The UK doesn't have an aircraft carrier so

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this is essentially the airbase from which to launch those as strikes

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first of all in Iraq but maybe, if there is a Yes vote in Parliament,

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they were then turned their attention to Syria as well and we do

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expect those combat missions over Syria to start very soon if there is

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a Yes vote indeed probably to light. Remember that politicians

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back in the UK will want to show that the RAF is making a difference

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and are doing something. The Americans who are leading this

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coalition, there are very few countries taking part in air

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strikes, we want to show that Britain has joined in that fight so

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I think there will be pressured to do something pretty soon that you

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have to remember about scale. This is a modest contribution from the

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UK. Eight Tornado jets based here. Another eight jets, two tornadoes

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and two typhoons if there is that Yes vote. They will patrol not just

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Syria but Iraq as well, carrying on the mission there. They have got

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twice as much to patrol essentially. It won't be a huge difference in

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military terms. The French contribution is greater and the US

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contribution is significantly greater but of course the coalition

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wants the help of Britain and Britain has niche capabilities. They

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have a missile which they say causes, low collateral damage and it

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will minimise civilian casualties. Very few journalists have had any

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access to Islamic State territory. He's a German journalist and former

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MP who spent ten days with IS last He's been telling Ros Atkins why

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he's against airstrikes in Syria. We have been bombarding the Taliban

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for 14 years and we have been unsuccessful. Bebop barbers were

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completely unsuccessful and counter-productive. When we started

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to bombard the Taliban, we had 100 terrorists and now we have 100,000.

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Our bombardments were a terror breeding programme. We are actually

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increasing terrorism by bombarding Isis because we are also killing

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civilians. And for every child we will kill all we are killing, we

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will have 1000 new terrorists. You have witnessed Islamic State

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close-up. What would you do to undermine this group? We should

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force Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states to stop the delivery of

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weapons and ammunition to terrorist groups in Syria, groups affiliated

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to Al-Qaeda. We should help our Turkish partners to close the border

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between Turkey and Islamic State. Every day, 200 new fighters join

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Islamic State. I have also crosses borders. It's very easy and we

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should stop it. The third point is, Isis is cooperating with groups in

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Syria and Iraq which are excluded from the political process in the

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country. We should do everything we can to get them the opportunity to

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get back on the political process, to play a role in the country. We

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need a national reconsideration in Syria and Iraq. Isis does not feel

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that bombs... It fears not getting weapons and ammunition from Saudi

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Arabia, they fear the borders are closing, and they feared peace in

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Syria and peace in Iraq, and that is what we should do. Reports from

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Afghanistan say they Taliban leader has been wounded in a firefight in

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Pakistan and that is said to have followed a disagreement at a meeting

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of commanders. A source close to the Taliban to the BBC firing broke out

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spontaneously and the he was seriously hurt but in the past

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couple of hours, et al Obama spokesman dismissed reports of any

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injury to its leader. To India now where the

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Prime Minister, Narendra Modi, has ordered a massive relief effort

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in the southern city of Chennai, which is experiencing severe

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flooding after the heaviest monsoon Flights and trains have been

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suspended and hundreds The army has been deployed to rescue

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thousands of stranded people More rain is forecast

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in coming days. The Hindu newspaper, which is

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produced from Chennai, has been unable to publish for one of the few

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occasions in its 137-year history. Amit Baruah, the managing editor

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of the newspaper's national editions, explained what's happening

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there at the moment. This has been a really serious

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crisis. If you put it together with what happened some time ago and in

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Mumbai some years ago, increasingly what we are seeing is on account of

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many changes in drainage patterns, wetlands being destroyed, flood

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plains destroyed. Essentially the absence of water to go anywhere,

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drainage issues. We are seeing a major crisis in the major cities of

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India, a lot due to an planned construction and bad planning. We

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are seeing the results of all of that. When you have this heavy rain,

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I often visit Chennai to my headquarters, and even a month ago,

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when there was a little bit of rain, I found that the streets were

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totally waterlogged, drainage was poor, and today we have a situation

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that schools and colleges have closed, public transport is very

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difficult or minimal. We have a serious situation.

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The head of world athletics, Lord Coe, has accepted there have

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been failures in tackling blood doping in the sport.

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The President of the IAAF was giving evidence to

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Russia was banned from international events after an independent

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World Anti-Doping Agency report alleged state-sponsored doping.

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And during the hearing, Lord Coe was asked whether the doping

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The chair of the independent commission has made it clear that

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this is not simply about Russia or athletics. People forget that this

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is not about athletics. But I will await with interest the second

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report because it may show... May throw more light on other areas that

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we need to be concerned about. And sang sushi has met the President and

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influential rid of the Army. Both men have pledged to smooth the

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trans-Buddha would would once have been unthinkable. The last time she

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won an election, the Burmese army refused to set aside. This time, it

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feels different. Her meeting with the President focused almost

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entirely on putting systems in place to ensure a smooth transfer of

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power. Thorny issues like the clause in the Constitution that stops are

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becoming President were apparently not even discussed. She never

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mentioned this issue. Did they discuss the would-be President then?

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No. There will be decided by the next Parliament. Is the army ready

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to give up its political power here? That's a $1 million question! I

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cannot answer that. In search of the answer, she went for a second

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meeting of the day. This time with the country's top shoulder. This is

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now the key relationship. To change the constitution, she needs to win

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the army's trust and reassure them that their brutal past will not be

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revisited. For now, the army seems willing to let her operate within

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the limits that they themselves have set. This feels like another hurdle

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cleared. She may not be able to be the next President but it looks

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likely that she will be allowed to form the next government. It is that

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point in April next year that she will face a really big decision,

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does she accept the boundaries of this army political system or dish

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you push for true democracy in the knowledge that it will almost

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certainly lead to confrontation? The founder of Facebook, Mark

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Zuckerberg, and his wife, Priscilla Chan, have announced they're giving

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away nearly ?30 billion or 99% of their Facebook shares to mark

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the birth of their first child. The couple say they want to make

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the world a better place for Like many a young couple,

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Mark and Priscilla took to Facebook to celebrate the birth of their

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daughter, but they had other news. In a video recorded just weeks

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before the arrival of Max, the Having this child has made us think

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about all of the things that should be improved in the world

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for her whole generation. We need to make sure that there are

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investments and programmes that ensure that the

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future isn't going to be like today, In a letter to their daughter,

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the couple now say that over their lifetimes they'll donate 99% of

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their Facebook shares, to promote good causes, from better health

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and education, to greater equality. Mark Zuckerberg and Priscilla Chan

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join other billionaires in giving Bill and Melinda Gates have

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so far donated over ?21 billion. The businessman Warren Buffett

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has given ?15 billion. And the investor George Soros has

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donated ?7 billion Bill and Melinda Gates have been

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praised for their contribution to eradicating diseases

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in developing countries, but sometimes donors can find it hard to

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direct cash where it's needed. It is all too easy to spend money

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that's aimed to do good on things that don't have an impact,

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and what I'd encourage them to do is to focus on causes that are really

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big problems, that are neglected by other funders,

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so you can really make progress. Right from when he founded Facebook

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as a 20-year-old student, Mark Zuckerberg has said his mission

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is to change the way the world Luckily for him, and for

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the causes he and his wife support, Let's take you inside the British

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House of Commons. The debate is still going on. It is approaching

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the eight and a half hour mark now. We think they will vote on whether

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Britain should launch air strikes in three or four hours' time.

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Hello there, some of us were lucky enough to see some sunshine today.

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Still have the differences in temperature, though.

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We've got colder air tucking into the north-west of the UK,

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still mild further south, and the dividing line continues to

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After moving southwards today, it's going to start to move northwards

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again overnight and into tomorrow, taking the rain across Wales, away

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