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I'm Lyse Doucet at the United Nations in New York.

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The US Secretary of State calls for all planes to be grounded

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in key areas of Syria to try to save the truce there.

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There's been dozens more air raids around the city of Aleppo

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and amid continued recriminations against Russia

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over the destruction of an aid convoy on Monday.

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He said the damage to the convoy was as a direct result

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Trucks of food and medicine, just spontaneously combusting.

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We report on how Kurdish Peshmerga forces are getting close

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to pushing so-called Islamic State out of Iraq once and for all.

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And I'll also be talking to the Iraqi Prime Minister

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about the Iraqi armies battle to retake Mosul from IS.

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I hope we can do it, and we are intending on doing it.

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I'm not giving any information - I want to surprise Daesh on this.

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The outside the headquarters of the United Nations. Again, Syria is

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dominating the headlines with them not just that, retention and

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recrimination after Monday's attack on the UN, Terry and convoy heading

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towards the besieged city of Aleppo. Today, more reports of an attack on

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a clinic that has left 20 civilians dead.

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John Kerry said that the peace in Syria was hanging by a thread, and

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they were tense moments with Sergey Lavrov over who is responsible for

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the attacks on the aid convoy in how to move Syria forward.

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Monday night's attack on the aid convoy was a shocking part of the

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violent end to the Syrian ceasefire. American led accusations that a

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Russian air strike was responsible for this, and Russian denials of any

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involvement now threaten to derail the entire search for a Syria peace.

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At the United Nations, the Security Council met to see if any sort of

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peace process can be saved. Passions were running extraordinarily high,

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but Russia's Foreign Minister said nobody should drum to conclusions.

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-- jump to conclusions. TRANSLATION: Many said it could have

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been a rocket or artillery shelling, that was what the initial reports

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were, then helicopters or warplanes were mentioned. I think we need to

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refrain from emotional reactions and make comments immediately, but first

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we must investigate and be professional. That appeal to avoid

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feelings and Russian denials were simply too much for the Americans. I

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listened to my colleague from Russia, and I sort of felt a little

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bit like we were in a parallel universe here. Then a John Kerry let

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rip in a sustained assault on their credibility, dismissing their

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accounts, including one that it might have been a simple fire on the

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ground. They just spontaneously combusted. Anybody here believe

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that? I mean, this is not a joke. So what do we know about the attack on

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the aid convoy? It took place on Monday night. The convoy was

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intending to head on to rebel held areas in Aleppo province. Russia has

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admitted tracking the convoy with a drone. They showed their footage

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shows it was accompanied by a rebel convoy. Those at the scene insisted

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was struck from the air. TRANSLATION: They dropped barrel

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bombs and then Russian jets bombed us, there was lots of strafing. The

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United states so they were jets above the convoy at the moment it

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was hit. Russia denies involvement. It says there are no craters at the

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scene, and suggests that somehow the cargo caught fire. The Foreign

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Secretary, Boris Johnson, does not buy that. He is convinced the attack

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was from the air, and that only the Russians had the capability. There

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are only two possible culprits, only two forces capable of powering

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carried out that strike, flying in that area. They are the Syrians and

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the Russians. We have our doubts about the Syrian capability to fly

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at night. So you're left with a pretty strong conclusion, as you

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will have been hearing. The destruction of the convoy and

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killing of aid workers has sparked the worst crisis so far in

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international efforts to end Syria's agony.

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At the moment here at the United Nations, where the international

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committee had been looking to end the violence, their argument about

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who reignited it. You must be disappointed. Is there

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any hope of moving beyond this now? We cannot give up. There is no

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alternative. What is the alternative? Going back to a war

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which will be ongoing without limit. We almost had a ceasefire. We almost

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had he Medmerry and eight. Foremost is not good enough in Syria. --

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almost had humanitarian aid. There are some who do not want it. Today

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was a tense meeting. But I have a strong feeling that both Russia and

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America, who have been putting a lot of capital into it, will not give up

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before Friday. Then we perhaps might get something moving. You know who

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carried out the attack on the convoy? The United States say it was

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Russian planes. It was a UN convoy. It was. It was full of food, and

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fully authorised. Everyone knew where they were going. There was no

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east is forcing them, there were 31 tracks. I cannot tell you at this

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stage who did it, but I can tell you one thing, you need a highly

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sophisticated machine to kill 18 trunks out of 31, and there was no

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excuse. You have a -- you have relied on Russia and America to move

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on. If there is hostility between them, how can you move on? In

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fairness to both of them, they both work hard. I work with both of them,

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and they worked overnight. They got quite a good deal. I want to believe

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that over what -- those who are trying to spoil this... Who are

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those? You have two identify them to stop them. We have identified them.

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Are they the main parties? They are not. They are people on both sides,

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and the Government and opposition who do not feel that this is

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actually fitting into their picture. They have been spoiling both the

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American and Russian tactics. Russia and America have responsibilities,

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they have two brain in and convince their own partners that this is

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serious. The alternative is chaos, it is war. I am still optimistic.

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You will have heard of John Kerry calling for the grading of all

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planes. They have been trying to achieve that for so long. Any sense

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that that is possible? It is possible and doable. It was part of

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the original plan. Which did not work. It did not reach that point.

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It undermined the second chained of three points. A reduction of our

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studies is phase one. He manner Terry and aid is phase two. Phase

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three is around grabbing the Syrian air force. -- humanitarian aid is

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phase one. Isn't this the brunt of the problem, that those on the

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ground believe in the military solution? Yes, but they should know

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by now that there is no military solution. One week, one believes

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they can bring. The second week, the other one. This is still the best

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chance. We must wish good luck and energy and responsibility to the

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Russians and the Americans. They told us publicly that they had a

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deal. They must make it work. We understand that the suspension of

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aid deliveries has been lifted. Are they now rolling? They are.

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Humanitarian aid must always prevail. You are not losing hope?

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Losing hope would be betraying all of the Syrians that had been waiting

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for some good things. You have seen the mood inside the Security

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Council, it is hard to see how it can be picked up, despite the

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necessity of it. I have seen the difficult meetings. It was not the

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most difficult one. I could detect that both the Russians and American,

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while they were being quite tense towards each other, they were still

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saying that when they looked at each other, they had a chance. They need

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both of them to make it work. Thank you.

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Still chance, he says, to try to save this embattled truce across

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Syria. has been causing growing

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despair here at the UN, in Iraq, the army is pushing up

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from the south towards Mosul, the Islamic State group's last major

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stonghold in the country. At the same time,

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Kurdish Peshmerga forces are closing in on IS

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from the East. Our correspondent, Orla Guerin,

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joined them on the frontline, On the front line, a tense moment

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for Kurdish Peshmerga fighters. They spot a car in the

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territory controlled They think could be

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carrying explosives. The commander tells me

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that IS just a comment ahead. They've tried to attack us 30 or 40

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times, says the general. They've tried to attack us 30 or 40

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times, says the general. And we will defeat them

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in Mosul, God willing. We drive over rough terrain,

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along the front line, which stretches

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for 1,000 kilometres. a fighter who has been

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here on the mountain for 18 months. But his uniform

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separates him from the rest. He's a former British soldier,

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turned volunteer sniper. He says he has no hesitation

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pulling the trigger on IS. It's like putting

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your foot on an ant. For you, personally,

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what was it that This isn't your country,

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many would say. For people to say this

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isn't the West's war, you've got your head

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stuck in the sand. here, then the next step

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for them would be Europe. Nice, Paris would be nothing

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compared to what we would see. The fact of the matter

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is that the Peshmerga held the line, This mortar landed

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soon after we arrived. IS were responding to our

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presence, the Kurds said. Their horizon stretches

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beyond defeating the insurgents. The Peshmerga have been

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expanding their territory, They want independence

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for their autonomous region. But, for now, the focus

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is on freeing Mosul. This IS defector surrendered

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to the Kurds, and claims that the extremists have

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dug in for a long fight. We're not revealing his identity

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as he has relatives They are trying to convert a cannon

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to fire mustard gas so that, when the army comes,

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people use it against them. They have underground

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tunnels around Mosul, They have bunkers equipped

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with bathrooms, Back of the front line,

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a distant glimpse of Mosul, the captive city, where

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IS proclaimed its caliphate. The UN is warning

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that if the militants they may want Mosul

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to die with them. A difficult and dangerous battle for

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ice lies ahead. -- for Mosul lies ahead.

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The decision is a political one to be taken by Iraq's Prime Minister. I

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sat down with him here in New York to ask whether he believed the

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battle will be next month. Well, yes, I hope we can do it,

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and we are intending on doing it. I'm not going to give

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any information, I want to surprise

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Daesh on this. Usually, we give many messages,

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and one of the messages is that we start our offensive today

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to liberate all of the villages on the River Tigris so that Daesh

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will not be able to threaten any supply routes

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to and from Baghdad, to Mosul, I want to make sure

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that the international coalition is ready to provide help

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for us when we need it. it is going to be ready

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in the next couple of days. But most of the things

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are settled at the moment. And we hope that it will be ready

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sometime in the next few weeks. What do you fear about the attack

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on so-called Islamic State, where it is most entrenched

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amongst civilians? We've been told before that Falluja

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was more difficult than Mosul. Some advised us at the time to leave

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Falluja until the end. it took us only three weeks

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to liberate the city. It was quite a huge

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casualty for Daesh. President Obama said the battle

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for Mosul will be hard, challenging, Well, I mean, this is

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a psychological war. So you're pretending

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it's going to be easy where, in fact,

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in your heart hearts, you know this could be the biggest

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battle, the bloodiest battle but, in preparation, I have

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to assume it is very difficult. So I'm preparing things

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for a very difficult fight in Mosul. But, in actual fact,

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from the messages we are getting from inside the city, from people

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who are cooperating with us, people are ready to

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do things in there. So I think people are ready,

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Daesh morale is very low. There are many foreign

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fighters in Mosul. It's not just a military battle

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for your forces, it is a very political,

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sectarian battle. As you know, the arguments

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are very public about whether the Shia militia will go in,

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where will the Kurdish forces go? Are you worried

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that you will not be able to get everyone moving

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in the same direction? The plan which I have authorised

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in probably the last two weeks is... I mean, it's very much explained

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the role of everyone. There will be Sunnis,

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there will be Kurds, there will be Shia, there will be

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the other minor Christians, I cannot stop them or prevent

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them from taking part in liberating their own

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homes, their own cities. My role is to enable them to do that

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in a very established way so that their efforts are added up

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rather than negating each other. At the moment, it looks like it's

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going in the right direction. The Kurds have said they are worried

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they're not going be given the role Probably some people think

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they are not getting a role, Because if one party believe

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they have taken all of the roles, It's said that President Obama

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would like to leave the White House with so-called Islamic State

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no longer holding territory I don't know whether

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the rest of the world I'm very alarmed by

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the situation in Syria. The eastern side of Syria

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is still in the hands of Daesh, We are moving towards holding

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the border with Syria. But what is next there,

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on the other side of the border? We're talking to everybody,

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please solve Syria. It's important to solve

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the situation in Syria. Iraq's prime and stuff. During his

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time here in New York, he had two macro meetings with the American

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president, including a meeting where it was just the two leaders. They

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were discussing this crucial battle on the city of Mosul. We do know

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that the White House would like to end this administration by being

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able to say that the territorial control of Iraq and Syria by the

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so-called Islamic state has come to an end. So he was looking for

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financial support here, military support, humanitarian support. One

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of the things that was not in that interview was that he also asked for

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President Obama's help in removing Turkish forces. There are many, many

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issues which are pawns in the side. Let's return to Syria, which has

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been dominating headlines this week. The two attacks, one on the

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humanitarian and void the last -- convoy, and the one on the clinic.

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John Kerry has asked for all of the planes to be grounded in Syria. Is

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that possible? Our State Department correspondent has been speaking to a

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member of the artist says government to find out if that would be

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possible. The whole agreement is hanging by a

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thread, and is doing so because of this big Regis attack on a convoy

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that had been planned. There were coming to the aid of innocent

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civilians. The question before us now is whether Russia has the intent

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and the capacity to make good on its commitments under the agreement we

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reached after a lot of hard work. If it does, and if it can, this would

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be a permit is benefit by renewing a cessation of hostilities, by getting

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the Syrian air force out of the skies to stop into skimmer at the

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bombing innocent civilians. Ultimately, it is up to Russia to

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decide. The deal is this, if this doesn't work, if Russia does not

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make good on these commitments, then hard as it is to imagine, this will

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get worse. Rush you will be left holding the bag, propping I that

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will be under attack, and Russia will be alienating itself. It is up

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to Russia. All of this is depending on Russia, and the Americans are

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working closely on Russia. At the same time, you are saying that they

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are accountable for this strike on the humanitarian convoy. How can you

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keep that up question of if you believe that, the US will be

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complicit with those actions. The best way, the best chance we have of

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stopping the carnage in Syria is through this agreement. The

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challenge is this. These things and, Sybil was like Syria and in three

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ways. One side wins. Once one side starts to get power, the patrons of

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the other side start to in more resources. Or outside powers come in

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and try to end the violence. Russia has more at stake because if this

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does not succeed, as I said, they will be left responsible for Syria.

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Briefly, the military co-operation of it, that must be off the table?

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Russia has said from the start that it is in Syria to go after Isis as

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well as prop up the Assad regime. We know that, but the point of the

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ceasefire was that the Russians and the US would co-operate monetarily.

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Since you are accusing them of being committed in this air strike, that

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must be off the table? What we have said is that if this agreement holds

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for seven days, we get seven days of a cessation of hostilities, we can

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look at establishing a mechanism to coordinate in doing what we want to

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do, which is in the interests of the International committee, to go after

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Daesh. That depends on whether Russia is ready to make good on its

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commitments. It's as that you do not have much leverage. I think the

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leverage is, what is the alternative? An acceleration of a

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civil war that will harm Russia's interests were that anyone else's. I

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want to ask you about Russia. Sorry, refugees. There has been a lot of

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talk about refugees, a lot of money raised to help them, but no

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commitment for countries to resettle them. How do you get around that at

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the moment, in terms of doing something practical for refugees,

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other than just giving them a question much we have put more

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resources into the international systems to help refugees. We have

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significantly increased the number of people resettled all around the

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world, including by the United States was up they have to be in

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fermented, but we make commitments and we have to make sure that we

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stick to them. We have commitments to make sure that 1 million for

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refugee children have access to school, and a million more have

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access to jobs. Ultimately, it comes to Syria and that crisis, the best

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way to end the crisis is to end the civil war. That is what we're

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working hard to do. The depth the Secretary of State,

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speaking to my colleague. ! The alternative to a negotiated end

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to this war is just more war. It is hanging by a thread, John Kerry

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said. We had from the special envoy to Syria, saying that both John

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Kerry and Sergey Lavrov will go back to the negotiating table to get

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something back on track. If not, look at Aleppo. It has become a

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symbol of the suffering of Syria. Everyone knows the suffering, the

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question is what to do to end it? But from me and the rest

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of the team, goodbye. Plenty of contrast

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across the country We got over the front crossing

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the country - it's bringing

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some outbreaks of rain. It's a pretty wet and to the day,

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actually, across parts of Northern

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Ireland and Scotland. It continues to track its way

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slowly eastwards,

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