02/08/2011 The One Show

Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker and Alex Jones.

Tonight's guest has worshipped at the altar of comedy for years but

has transformed himself into a rock god. It is Justin Lee Collins.

I've got coffee, it is black, no milk. Great accessories as well.

have gone Skull crazy, look at the belt. It is all to get into the

part? It is just an affectation. I am not rock'n'roll. I don't drink

any more, I am eating the easily, my diet is so full of fibre, I am

never off the toilet, it is ridiculous. He lovely. We will talk

to you about your brand new rock career. Also joining us, the former

boss of MI5, Dame Stella Rimington. She will be revealing how she was

recruited into Her Majesty's Secret We realise it is MI6 that James

Bond was from, we thought it was worth playing the music. These

lanterns have become fashionable at parties, weddings and family

celebrations. There is no doubt they light up the sky in a

spectacular way, but they could have a darker and potentially more

dangerous side. The early hours in Luton. CCTV

footage shows a paper lantern floating over a car park. Carried

by the breeze, it becomes lodged under a car bumper. Within minutes,

a shocking scene unfolds. Soon, the car is well and truly alight. The

firefighters bring it under control but the car is a wreck. And this

isn't a one-off. In Bury, another car was written off. One Show

viewer Jacqueline Webb suspected arson. An investigator and revealed

it was a lantern. -- investigation. And Kyle Jones was badly injured by

hot wax falling from a lantern, released at a family party. These

things are causing quite some controversy. The coastguard blame

them on hundreds of false call-outs. The Civil Aviation Authority say do

not use them near airports. The National Farmers' Union want an

outright ban after numerous reports of animals dying after eating them.

There is a fuel cell which you like. The air heats up, and they rise up

into the night time Sky -- which The image of lanterns is a powerful

one. ITV used them in a Channel by ITV is here in Trowbridge, a

Chinese lantern drifted across to this house. -- here in Trowbridge.

The whole family was still asleep. The lantern was still light and

landed on a park built extension to the rear of the property, next to

where two young children were asleep. We had gone to bed on a

Saturday night. The next thing I knew, one of the neighbours was

banging on the door. St to get out, because the house was on fire. --

saying to get out. It is only when I took the children to the garden

that we could see the flames are commanded was quite scary,

particularly because where the fire was was next to where Amelia had

been asleep. The fire brigade found a damaged Chinese lantern on the

roof. We were very lucky, because I have two lovely children, and I

think things could have been very different. Firefighter Glyn Moody

was there on the night and is the investigating officer. Without the

neighbours noticing that the time they did, I think two or three

hours later, we had the potential for this to have been a fatal fire

with three occupants in the house. The Chief Fire Officers'

Association is calling for a government review of the sale and

use of Sky lanterns. They say a ban should be looked at seriously,

although they recognise there is a balance to be considered, they

argue the safety issues outweigh other considerations. Glastonbury.

Such are Michael Eavis's concerns about the lanterns, he has banned

them from the festival. As people are still sticking them in, he is

working with Devon and Somerset Fire Service to minimise the danger

they pose. Remnants of lanterns have already killed some of his

livestock and the potential danger to people is frightening. I have

thousands of tents, 180,000 people or living in tents. Imagine if they

catch fire, with the wind going, the fire goes from one turned to

another, you have a huge problem. They should be banned, like they

are in Germany and Australia, because they are real menace.

is no doubt about it, these lanterns look stunning in the night

sky. The manufacturers, along with Trading Standards, saying if you

are going to use them, follow the safety instructions and then they

are safe. With so many stories emerging about how things have gone

wrong, it makes you wonder, is now the time that we put the lights out

on these lanterns? Justin, you have had a run-in with

these Chinese lanterns? I have. Two or three years ago, no one really

knew what these things were. It is true. They are pretty new. I know

they probably go back hundreds of years in China, but they have not

been commonplace in this country until about two or three years ago.

We had a garden party in the summer. All my family were there. At about

midnight, there were about eight of us left. Me and my cousin of

Mavis... That is true... She will be watching. And her now husband,

Andy, and to be fair, we had all had a drink, and it was quite late.

I swear, I look up into the night sky, and there, hovering above

Clifton Suspension Bridge is what I thought, at the time, to be about

eight UFOs. I am looking and pointing like a caveman, and I said,

look, can you see? We are all stood there, agog, looking at these eight

unidentified flying objects flying in formation. But then they slowly

changed, and clearly, they burn out and disappear. But I think at the

time, that they have just flown off at breakneck speed. The following

day, the front page of the Bristol Evening Post was Chinese lanterns.

And William Bones is to thank for that. You are here from

Resuscitation Council UK, it is important to say that yours were

not the one featured in the film -- you are here from Sky Orb Lanterns.

It was a great film. It highlights that the Chinese lanterns, the Sky

Orbs should be used in a responsible way. If you follow the

safety advice on the packaging, it is going to be fine. You say that

yours are safer than others that are out there. Yours is this red

one. Let's start with the white one, why are they not safe? The first

thing about it, the actual balloon itself will burn. If you flick back

to the clip, the balloon that came down on the car was already a light.

Ours won't do that because it is a flame retardant balloon. The next

thing is, the fuel cell, if you look at the White one, that is

separate. You have to attach that to the wire frame, which is going

to mean it is prone to fall off. That is made from wax, which we saw

on the child's face. Yes, or something similar to it. On the Sky

Orbs balloon, it is a solid sell, made from cardboard and cotton. It

is already attached securely to the balloon, so it is not going to fall

off. The only time that will come down is when it has burned out.

They have been banned in Australia and Germany so there is obviously a

reason for it. Quite right. In Australia, it is a tinder dry

country a lot of the time. Actually, the ban has been lifted in Germany,

that happened in January. instructions say you should not

like them and let them go if the wind is more than five mph, but to

the average person, how do you know when the wind is over five miles

per hour? Most people can walk at 5 mph, Justin can probably warble at

three, with a drink. If you let go a normal balloon, if you can look

after it, fine. If you can't catch it, don't do it. The leaves blowing

in the trees will give you a good idea. Thank you. It is date two of

our series looking at Britain's biggest wildlife rescue hospitals.

This film's Features herons, haemorrhoid cream and baby shrews.

What I love about Iggy winkles is the animals seem to love it here,

even the wild ones. This is the outside ashtray, and nesting inside

here are blue tits. Amazing. But not all wildlife adapt so well to

living alongside humans. I am on a call-out with Les, to a heron that

has got himself into a tangle looking for food. Poor chap. The

net was covering the whole of the pond, to try to keep the Heron off.

They will poke your eyes out. heron is extremely distressed, so

we need to work quickly. Am I allowed to go in? Yes, go on.

about your neck. The Heron's neck can reach a third of a metre, and

with fish in a garden pond easy to catch, it is a common hunting

ground. Is this a common thing? is. What you do with the parents,

hold the head, tucked in under the arm, bring his legs up, he is

soaking wet. It looks like the wing is injured, so he is taken back to

the hospital, where vet can it assess the extent of the damage.

The biggest danger is that it cuts off the blood supply, and the wing

below that can die off. We will give drugs to increase the blood

flow to the tip of the wing, and that is about all we can do.

cream Joe is applying is usually used for a very different problem.

Haemorrhoid cream, his idea was that? I think it is one of the

ticket winkles innovations. When we started all of this, nobody had

dealt with wildlife. You get this injury to the wing tips quite often.

It helps to get the blood circulating, haemorrhoid cream. We

use it quite a lot. Luckily, the wing is a broken, but if the blood

isn't reaching the wing-tip, he could still lose it. The next

couple of days are crucial, and we will find out how he is getting on

late in the week. As soon as one animal has been treated, more

arrive, and next up, a batch of new bonds that were dug up on a

construction site. What is in the pot? 10 baby shrews. Oh, my word.

Shrews, like them more cousins, have a voracious appetite, so

having been separated from their mother for while, these guys will

They will probably be needed fed every hour, and through the night.

They have very high metabolisms and need food constantly. How do you

feed a baby is true? I ask that, but look what we have got here -- a

baby Shrew. You can use a paint brush, or we have these, which have

a very fine tip. The cotton buds is to help to toilet them. They should

be eating solids in a week and then they will be out on their staple

diet of insects. For now, they are dependent on us. I think I have got

my work cut out today, I am going to be here a while. Right, open

wide. Hopefully, I won't be here all night, because tomorrow we meet

an old friend, and his new friends, and release baby hairs back into

the wild. Wonderful. We will let you know if

the haemorrhoid cream has worked. Justin, you're watching very

closely for reasons that will remain nameless. It was the size of

a squash ball. OK... We move on to the new musical. Rock of Ages. It

was on Broadway, wasn't it? It has been a big hit on Broadway and I

saw it on Broadway. I went a couple of months ago. I was sent the

script and I had the Broadway cast seedy, but you need to go and see

it. Is it the same show? -- cast CD. Yes, references need to be changed.

The American references were too fast food references -- restaurants

that we won't get. Essentially it is the same. They are making it

into a film. Tom Cruise is in the film. There he is. Looking very

thin. Alec Baldwin plays the part you are going to play for the yes,

he plays Dennis, the nightclub owner. Everything is set in the 80s.

He owns the Birgen nightclub and they are trying to take his club

Are you miffed that you have missed out on the chance of getting in the

film? Yes. I mean, I love Alec Baldwin, but I could do the film.

There could be a Rock Of Ages two. I could be like Maxwell in Greece.

You started rehearsals today today Yesterday was the first day I met

the company. We introduced ourselves, what part

you are doing and we did a read- through. I got very excited about

the read-through. You hear about people getting together on film and

they sit together and have a read- through. We did the read-through

yesterday. Today, it was leotards on and let's get dancing.

You say you have never done it before, but you were in Chicago. It

was a spin-off of a television series you did? It was about three

years ago and I auditioned for Chicago. They gave me the part for

two day, she days in two days. It was a shorter run than what I'm

doing now. Well, we have got a clip.

Have you? Yes. Never even know.

Hit that note, I never thought I would get that note because singing

in that musical theatre style which we are not not doing on Rock Of

Ages, but for Chicago it is that musical theatre thing. I didn't

think I could hit the big, long, clean notes. I remember the first

time I rehearsed that song, my frame of reference is Tom Jones.

Whereas the note you hear on that clip is big and long and clean

which is what it should be, initially I was going # No #

People were going, "Don't do Tom Jones.". You have got the moves. We

have a special camera. This is you rocking in slow-mo. Action!

That's normal speed. And this is you in a slow-mo.

like a hair advert. I love that.

Smell my hair. Look at it! It smells nice!

I love it. We will put that on a DVD for you.

Thank you. You have a fine head of hair, but

it wasn't always the case, was it? We have a picture of you without!

That's me at M&S! Short hair with a flower attached.

I had patchy highlights. My mum had this thing about me having

highlights. When I was a baby I was blond. My mum loved me blond. When

I got to 16 my mum made me have those awful highlights, the patchy

highlights and everybody at M&S, "What is going on with your hair?"

To be fair I still get that to this day.

You go dark in Rock Of Ages. It opens on 31st all.

We will be talking to Dame Stella Rimington who became the highest

ranking female intelligence officer ever.

Ruth Goodman looks at a woman who made the ultimate sacrifice during

In 1940, Europe was under German rule. The fight needed to be taken

behind enemy lines with a sabotage campaign. In London's Baker Street,

a shadowy organisation called the Special Operations Executive was

set up to do just that. More than 100 of their aghtsz were killed. --

acts were killed. Many women amongst them. The main figure is on

the memorial in London. But it is another female spy I'm interested

in. There is no memorial, but her story is one of the most fas

fascinating -- fascinating. This was set-up which Winston

Churchill to help sabotage the Germans and help the French

resistance. They are luxury flats now, but I got a look inside.

walls would have been covered with maps of Paris and the agents would

be familiarising themselves with it. As the family lived in Paris until

they led to London on the outbreak of war.

She believed in non violence, but she was opposed to halfs happening

and -- what was happening and what was going on. She decided to be

involved. She joined the Women's Auxiliary

Airforce, but was soon identified as an ideal recruit for SOE.

She spoke fluent French. She knew the area well and she was a trained

radio operator. The recruiting officer just saw her and knew she

was right for the job. He told her, "You will be sent as an agent to

France. You won't be in uniform. There is no protection. If you are

caught, you will be shot. Will you take the job?" She said yes.

Agents were given rigorous training. If they had a filling which is not

right, it would be replaced with a gold plug as they did in the

Continent. Everything is checked out. Of course, there is the cover

stories. They go with their cover stories so that nothing is left to

chance. Nour was given the codename

Madeline. Her mission was to be a radio operator in Paris.

It was one of the most dangerous jobs. Life expectancy for radio

operators was just six weeks. They were the links between London

and France. Without the wireless messages, the RAF don't know where

to send the supplies. Without the wireless operator, the leader can't

be instructed as to to where to attack and where not to attack.

Sending messages was a long winded process with equipment that was

tricky to use and the Gestapo were always on the hunt for radio

operators in Paris. However well trained you are, every

moment is a test. When she arrived, she was going to work for one of

the biggest networks going. Tragically, within days of her

arriving, the Germans penetrated the network, crippling the

organisation and leaving her exposed and really this means that

her job is more vital because London needs to know what is

happening and she is the person who was able to send the messages back.

No matter how important she was, her bosses thought it was too

dangerous for her to continue. She was told to return to London. She

refused and carried on transmitting. She was now the only radio operator

left in Paris. She was to pay for her bravery when she was captured.

. Noor made repeated attacks to leave the Gestapo.

She was labelled as a highly dangerous prisoner. Noor had it

worse. It was tortured, beaten and kicked and finally gunned at the

the become of her head and she was shot, but her spirit remained and

she went down saying, "liberty.". Noor was given the George Cross.

Noor's efforts are typical of agents to risked their lives and

according to the General, it played a considerable part in the complete

and final victory over Hitler's Stella joined us here. Is that the

first time you heard Noor's story? There were a lot of women. They

recruited women because they thought they wouldn't be noticed,

but in her case, she was noticed and quickly too.

How were you drafted in to the Secret Service? It sounds

intriguing? Well, I was recruited in the late 1960s. You had to wait

for somebody to tap you on the shoulder.

Really? What were you doing at the time? I was the wife of a British

diplomat and I was doing what diplomats wives did which was

running coffee mornings when somebody sideled up to me and said,

"Do you want to be a spy?" Or something like that anyway!

LAUGHTER Wasn't in the first instance they

said do you want to be a typist? offered me a job as a part-time

clerk typist in a small office that MI5 had in New Delhi and and that's

what I did. I didn't know anything about MI5 and I found that's what I

joined. I was there typing his reports back to London. When we

left India, I thought this looks like an exciting job. I applied for

a full-time job and I discovered I joined a service that was really

male dominated in those days. The women women had their own career

structure and we were limited really to working with the papers

and you know doing the clerking and stuff and the men went out and did

the sharp end work. How did you rise to the top? Well,

during the 70s, it was the 70s by the time I started. Women's lib

came along and there were women like me with degrees and such like

and we started to say, "Hang on, why can't we do the sharp end work

like the men?" Our bosses puffed their pipes and scratched their

heads and they didn't have a good answer. Some of us were allowed to

try our hand at the intelligence gathering work so we went on from

strength to strength. Now women are doing all the work of the service

and and equally with the men. "Girl power".

Providing variety. You have drawn on your experiences

to write a series of books. The character Liz Carlisle and you have

a new book out, haven't you? It is out this month and it is the sixth

in the series and Liz Carlisle is in all of them. Liz Carlisle is a

modern MI5 officer. She didn't didn't join by being tapped on the

shouder and saw what jobs there are and she applied on the website. She

joined a service where men and women are equal. She leads a small

team of people who go out and solve some of the problems, you know,

that face the intelligence services now.

Did you always know that you were going to put the stories down and

you wanted to write books? Well, it is something I wanted to do. I used

to think about writing thrillers. I have always been a thriller reader.

So when when five or six years I left, the first thing I wrote was

my my autobiography and and then I decided to have a go at the novels

and I have been having a go since. Stella, given your intelligence

training, we we wondered who out of you and Justin would be the best of

spotting an imposter in a group of people. We have a challenge.

We would like you both to play rock god or mock god?

Among the crew of rockers there is a proper legend who appeared on Top

of the Pops. Right, here they are, we have Rock Climber. Rock on Tommy.

Any ideas? Any thoughts, Stella? I'm going for Rocky Road.

We are looking for Steve Dawson. Justin, what do you think of number

one? I've met Saxon. The most

interesting fact, the most interesting, I mean Saxon are a

great band, but one of the many interesting facts about Saxon is

they were the main inspiration for Spinal cap tap. That's right.

I worked with Saxon once. I met Saxon.

You are saying not number one then. I met the base player. Bearing in

mind Saxon, Spinal Tap were based on Saxon and I met the base player

on a shoot and it was 10am and a young runner came up to me and said,

"Guys can I get you a drink?" The base player from Saxon said, "Can I

have a beer?". We are going to have to push you. It is number three.

Is that the one I chose? Number three.

I'm wrong. I'm wrong. Three, I'm wrong.

Can the real rock god step forward, please?