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Hello and welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones.

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Tonight, we will be talking about this satirical newspaper which was

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written and produced in harrowing conditions on the front line during

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World War I. And talking about it with us will be the editor of this

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satirical newspaper, which is written in a cosy London office just

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around the corner from a Tesco Metro. It is Ian Hislop! Yeah, they

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did have tougher conditions than us. Some interesting things have

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been coming out in the news recently. Have you decided on the

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cover of next week's Private Eye? It looks like a number of BBC figures

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in suits, possibly with the headline, the great British payoff.

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Now, you have written a comedy drama about the Wipers Times, which we

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will talk about later. But first, ADHD is a common childhood disorder.

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Symptoms include finding it hard to stay focused and pay attention, and

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difficulty controlling sometimes violent behaviour. In the last five

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years, there has been a 50% increase in the number of prescriptions being

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given to children with ADHD. That is over 657,000 prescriptions a year.

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So what is it like for the children on those drugs? These are

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16-year-old Terry Ray and 14-year-old Luke's stories, in their

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own words. I was not a happy child. I was very angry. I used to smash up

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things all the time. I used to get into fights, pushing my dad,

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punching my dad, biting my dad. At the age of six, my mum took me to

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the doctor about it and then I got diagnosed with ADHD. I was not a bad

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child, I was just misunderstood. Memory and concentration were the

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child, I was just misunderstood. main issues. I would always want to

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do what I was told, I just got distracted. By the age of six, there

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was no denying it. Everybody knew I was different, but I didn't know

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why. I was diagnosed with ADHD. It didn't feel any different, until I

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started taking the tablets. Last year, doctors wrote 657,000

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prescriptions for ADHD drugs, a 50% rise over the past six years. It is

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hard to talk about it. It is hard to tell people you have got ADHD,

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because a lot of people label you naughty, when I am not. I am not

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nasty or horrible. My medication makes me a different person. It is

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almost robotic. I am not my bubbly self. I feel boring. But it works so

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although it has some side effects that I may not be so happy about, it

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is going to benefit me, completely. If I am on the drugs, personally, I

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don't feel me. It makes me very emotional. It makes me cry a lot

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when I get angry Tom because the medication kicks in and I am trying

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not to cry. If I did not have the medication, I would not cry. Every

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morning, Chloe Ramus decide when to take her medication. She can only

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take one pill a day, and the effects only last for eight hours. She must

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choose which lessons she needs to focus on most, so she can take the

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pill at the right time. My medication only lasts for six

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lessons. I find are read to be quite an easy subject, because I enjoyed

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it -- religious education. So I don't need my tablet as much as I

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would for, say, music, which is the last lesson. The first lesson and

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last lessons are the main important ones, because I either take it for

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the first lesson and miss out the last, or take it for the last and

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miss out the first. Education, in my life, is the most important thing.

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Without my tablet, I would not be anywhere. After eight years on

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Without my tablet, I would not be medication, Luke is on his third

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type, and although it controls his behaviour, he does not always take

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his tablet. If I say to my mum and dad that I have taken them, I will

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need have put them down the sink or say I have taken them when I

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haven't. Or I will keep them in my mouth and spit them in the toilet.

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Luke's know that missing his tablet can have serious consequences. Why

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haven't you taken it? I have been taking it, but not properly. Then

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you go all moody with me, and start hitting and lashing out because you

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you go all moody with me, and start have not taken it. When I say, why

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haven't you taken it, you say, you have. But I know you haven't. It is

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hard when you don't take it, because we have do pick up the pieces. You

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are the one who has to deal with it. People ask me all the time, do you

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grow out of it? You are born with it and you die with it. You can't get

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rid of it. You can stop it for a few hours with the tablet, but it will

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always be who you are. If people have got ADHD, it is really

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important to be active. Ice skating is really good, because I can go all

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the time. Instead of breaking stuff, I can just ask my mum and dad if I

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can go skating. It makes me feel free on the ice. It makes me feel

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like I can fly away, because when I am on the ice, I am me, with or

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without medication. You really feel for them, watching

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that. Thank you to Chloe-Rae and Luke for

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sharing their stories. Doctor Sarah Jarvis is here now. There might be

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some people out there the same age as Luke and Chloe-Rae who may think

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they have ADHD, or parents who are concerned. If a parent brought a

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child into the surgery to see you, how would you determine whether they

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had ADHD? There are several different kinds of ADHD. Chloe-Rae

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described herself as a dreamer. That is the inattention kind. Boys often

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have the more hyperactive, impulsive kind. They are the ones who throw

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themselves off high walls and don't understand. The difference between a

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child with ADHD and a child who is badly behaved is that a child with

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ADHD can't behave well. A badly behaved child, with enough of an

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incentive, can make themselves behave properly. A child with ADHD

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may desperately want to, but they can't. But to have a diagnosis, you

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need to have had at least six of the symptoms for six months, such as not

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being able to concentrate, losing things, being disorganised, finding

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it difficult to motivate yourself, blurting out questions, that sort of

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thing, and it has got to be different from other kids, in at

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least two settings, at home or at school. Bowie said from the age of

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six, she was different. In the process goes further than just going

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to see a GP. A GP can start the process, but ADP should never give a

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diagnosis. Once you are off school age, if you are moderately

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effective, you should get to a specialist. At an early stage, we

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can try early things, but a GP should never put you on these drugs.

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They are not for us to start. We saw in that film how Luke was so upset,

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having had to take these drugs and trying to hide them from his family.

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Are there other options to medication? Medication should never

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be used on its own. For mild cases and preschool children, we don't

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recommend it at all. But for severely affected kids, their lives

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are completely blighted by the condition, so the NICE guidance is

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that they must first get help for their parents. That is not to say

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their parents are useless. These kids don't have the same rules.

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Cognitive behavioural therapy, social skills training, helping them

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understand what their condition is doing. There is a link on our

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website if you want more information about ADHD. Now, nearly 100 years

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ago, a satirical magazine was produced from an unlikely place, the

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trenches of World War I. It was packed with jokes about

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bombing raids, the British Army and the evil hand. Ian is so passionate

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about the magazine that he has written a new comedy about it for

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BBC Two, and more importantly, he made this film for us.

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In 1916, the First World War was dragging on. With no end in sight,

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morale was in short supply. On a miserable January morning, the men

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of 12 Sherwood Foresters were patrolling the streets of Ypres in

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Belgium, insert of materials with which to repair the war-torn

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trenches. Their commanding officer was one Captain Fred Roberts. He and

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his men came across something unexpected, something which would

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not mend their trenches, but which would help shore up their spirits. A

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printing press. Blimey. Can you make this work? It has not been used for

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a while. But given a bit of time, yes Thomas. During World War I,

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there were various trench newspapers, but none were produced

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under such testing conditions in the battlefield as the wipers time. The

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paper took its name from the inability of the soldiers to

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pronounce the name Ypres correctly. They pronounced it wipers. It is

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genuinely funny. All the latest in barbed wire etc. I am such a fan

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that I recently co-wrote a drama about it for the BBC. Soldiers from

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all ranks contributed to the newspaper. And they did so in

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snatched moments of free time. The pages of the Wipers Times are filled

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with fake advertisements, because the ads were at the front, an

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editorial, letters from readers, poems. It is all black comedy about

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daily life in the trenches. Clearly, comedy is a way of coping with the

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horrors of war. This is an advert for a music hall show that they are

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going to put on, a screamingly funny farce. They say of the Cloth Hall,

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it is the best ventilated war in the town. In fact, it was a building

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that had been bombed to bits. You could not put on anything there. It

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would be dangerous just to be in it. German shelling meant constant

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disruptions to production of the paper. The number of printing blocks

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was always limited. The unique tone of the paper was largely influenced

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by its editor, captain Fred Roberts. A man of considerable

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literary talent and a sharp sense of humour, he is a fascinating

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character. He died in 1964, but his wartime exploits are well known

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amongst his grandchildren. It is an odd thing to reduce a newspaper in

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the middle of the war. What were his qualities that made him want to do

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that? He was a rebel. And a risk taker. This was why he enjoyed

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taking the Mickey out of the sensors, basically cocking a snook

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at authority. Not only is this quality writing, but the

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circumstances under which it was produced or extraordinary. It is

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incredible. I don't know how he had the time to both write a war and

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incredible. I don't know how he had write a trench magazine, but he

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did, and he did it well. My mother was immensely proud of him. She

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often referred to how brave he was. And they had technical problems?

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They had problems with a lack of type. For instance, they were short

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of the letter in the, the letter S and the letter I. It depended what

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particular press he had at the time as to whether he could publish the

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magazine. I felt the work he did during World War I to produce this

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trench magazine and all its humour did a massive amount to improve the

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morale of the troops who read it. I don't think that was ever

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acknowledged at the end of the First World War. Such is the demand for

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First World War memorabilia that original copies of the paper now

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sell for hundreds of pounds at auction. Looking back almost 100

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years, the Wipers Times emerges not just as a first-hand account of

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authentic voices from the trenches, but also as a classic example of the

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British comic tradition at its best. Ian, what kind of situation are we

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talking about for this newspaper? The first one had just 100 copies,

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but it got past hand to hand, and a printed more and then they printed

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1000, and it started getting right around the western front and then

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going home. People at home were picking it up, thinking, that is

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funny. The further the war went on, the more popular it became. And now,

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funny. The further the war went on, when you pick it up, because it was

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hand-printed, it is a beautiful thing. Yes, I have one original copy

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which a lady discovered in her attic and sent to me. It has got mud on

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the back and it is yellowed with age. It is the authentic voice of

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the time. That one is from 1916. And there was a motto connected to this

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paper that came from a comment made by one of the senior chiefs? Yes,

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the commanding inspector would check the troops and say, are you being

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offensive enough? They were worried about the troops doing nothing. So

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Roberts thought, yeah, we are being offensive! And he used it as a joke.

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He would say, are you being offensive enough? In the film, it

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looks like you are having a bit of a pop at one of the national

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newspapers. Everything in the film is real. That is not you?No. There

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is a pop at the Daily Mail, which obviously, I approve of. But the war

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correspondents hated them, because they were sitting there saying, I am

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here at the front line, and Roberts thought, no, you are not. Never seen

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any of you. And they road fake dispatches. One of them wrote

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dispatches about how he was in an airship. It was rubbish.

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dispatches about how he was in an Humour was a way of getting through

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it, wasn't it? They obviously did it to keep themselves sane, but they

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found it was keeping other people sane too. Literally just laughing at

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the awful things that were going on. Cleverly written as well, it's

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clever satire? Is It's contribution yuetions from all ranks and it's

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jokes, poems, Limericks, the lot -- contributions. You showed some

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adverts of what happened in the film. After years of working in the

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Private Eye, are there articles that you are particularly surprised at?

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Yes, there is a fake agony column and someone's written in it "don't

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worry, shooting a senior officer is always excusable" and I'm thinking,

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they are talking about shooting a senior officer in 1916, you know,

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it's very black and there's an advert for a duck board, so that

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when your commanding officer comes down, you jump on one end and it

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flips him into no-man's-land and they are running this as an ad. We

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can see now how you turn the magazine into the comedy. The Wipers

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Times is on at BBC Two tomorrow night at 9 o'clock. This is Michael

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Palin as General Mitford. I'm referring to this response.

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"Dear Sir, no, the death penalty is not enforced in the cause of

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murdering a senior officer, as you will always be able to claim ex-ten

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waiting circumstances". LAUGHTER That's a joke? It's an

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incitement to mutiny, I'll have him shot. Not if he shoots you first.

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You watch it and think to yourself, is it all right to laugh at this.

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There are a lot of moments like that. We have classic Palin moments

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later on when we reveal the two nominees for the People's Portrait

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later on when we reveal the two when you get to vote for Great

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later on when we reveal the two Britain to have their picture hang

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in the National Portrait Gallery. First, a survey found 62% of people

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have lied about reading classic novels to make themselves appear

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more intelligent. Never! Lewis wondered if she could find anybody

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who'd claim to have read this, entirely fictitious novel by a very

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unlukely author. It's not out in entirely fictitious novel by a very

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hard back yet. It's very good! To be quite honest, I often lie

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about books and films that I say I've read and seen but I haven't.

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Can I get others to admit they do the same?

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You have not read it yet? No.Do you intend to read it? I haven't... No,

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I don't know anything about it. Alex Jones. A new writer to me. Thug read

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The Valleys yet? No.It's on your list? Yes.Do you think she'll be up

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there with the literary greats, like Dickens, toll city? Yes.This is her

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third book, how many of her books have you read? I just read the first

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one. You have read the first one. Did you enjoy it? Yeah. Her writing

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is, you know, quite classic. Do you feel she speaks to you as a woman?

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Oh, yes, you know, she's very good and you get the feel of her

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characters in everything that she's doing. Why did some of the people I

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spoke to feel the need to lie? I think it's all about ego, isn't it,

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you know? We all want to be what we are not or we all want to be better

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than we are or better than we are perceived. Sometimes I do feel a

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bit, you know, you don't want to keep saying, sorry, I haven't read

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that. Why do we do it? I suppose we don't want to appear to be not very

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erudite, I suppose, we want to appear very knowledgeable and know

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about our literature. I talk about books that I skimmed or

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glanced at or read a review of and then I have probably allowed people

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to get the impression that I had read it.

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What do you think the reasons are that people pretend to have read a

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book when they haven't? We live in a world where we are constantly

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worried, perhaps far too much, about what other people are thinking about

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us. There is such a per crepion that books are things that we should read

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-- perception. If you find a cultured, sophisticated person, you

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think you need to read books. . I've got to put her out of her misery. I

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just made her up. No! You rat bag. You've done what I do all the time.

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If somebody's enthusiastic about an author, I will play along with them.

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Most people that we have spoken to today have admitted that they have

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lied about their cultural consumption at some point to fit in.

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So, just bear in mind the next time you are having a literary

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So, just bear in mind the next time conversation with someone, you may

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So, just bear in mind the next time not be telling you the whole story,

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or even half of it. The rat bag is here, Lucy! Can't

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believe that. I'm so ashamed.She'll enjoy my book when it finally comes

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out! The Man Booker Prize short list is out today, Lucy. Yes.At the

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start of the film you said you don't read the books so you obviously

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haven't read any of them? Not yet. What is on the list? It's very

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strong, some critics called it the strongest short list ever. We have

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the Testament of Mary, We Need More Names, Harvest, The Lowland and A

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Tale for the Time Being, a very strong list. Have you read any, Ian?

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No. I have done the opposite and pretended I've never read a Jeffrey

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Archer when I did! LAUGHTER

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Was it good? No. If you are drawn into conversation

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about these books on the list, this is the bluffer's guide. From someone

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that's never read 'em, come on. I have read A book, I would like to

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clear that up. The Lowland author is already a Pulitzer prize novelist.

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This is an extraordinary novel. Why? Sa I'm going to tell you. It charts

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two brothers' journeys. One goes to the US and one stays in east Bengal

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and gets involved in politics. What the author is able to do is to get

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that emotional resonance so she conjures from the chaos of human

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life, she's able to conjure... Really? All right, Lucy... This is a

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completely different vibe. This is the Wexford author, known as the

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Master, and in fact that was one of the titles of his novels. This time

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the protag nast is Mary Mother of God. In 101 pages, we find Mary as a

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solitary older woman looking back at the life of her son and the

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foundations of Christianity. It's so powerful. What I find interesting

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about The Testament of Mary is how they recount Lazarus. Does that

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reflect what we are talking ability now? Yes, you have done that

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straight back at me! We don't like to get specific about pages. Keep it

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general. They gave me that line to throw at you. You wouldn't last five

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minutes at a dinner party. It was a good guide, thank you ever so much.

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Now time to say goodbye to viewers in Scotland. But, you will have to

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catch up within this next bit on the iPlayer because we need you to vote

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on the People's Portrait on Friday. Good luck in the football. See you.

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For everyone else, here are today's nominees for the People's Portrait.

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One of which could end up in the National Portrait Gallery.

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Michael Palin, comedy legend, actor, writer and modern day fill yas Fire

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Brigade. -- Phileas Fogg. I want you to imagine a world without Michael

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Palin's contribution to comedy. I want to register a complaint. What

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is wrong with it? It's dead. And there was the subtle comedy of a

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Fish Called Wanda. He has this sort of ability. He's

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the best of British. Michael Palin's not only brought a unique unorthodox

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form of comedy into British homes for almost 50 years. His travel

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adventures have introduced millions of us to cultures and characters

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across the globe. What you see on screen on travel

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documentaries is him, very genuinely him. He's a national treasure, yes.

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So, if ever you'd been on or dreamt of going on an adventurous holiday,

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the probably down to Michael Palin. Mount Everest. Forbidding, aloof,

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terrifying. No, I'm sorry, we don't go there. No. If you are filled with

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pride, that's thanks to the work of Michael Palin. I have every single

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tape of Monty Tie on this. I've been in a sketch with you once -- Monty

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Python. He's not the that sire, just a very lovely man.

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-- the messiah. Mr Clifford. The idea of protecting

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the rights of the innocent. When it comes to the idea of protecting the

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rights of those who've been detained for onth or convicted of extreme

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crimes like terrorism or murder, that requires a special dedication

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of quite high moral code. As a boy, Clive Stafford Smith wrote a history

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essay of capital punishment and later discovered it's still

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happening across the world. Clive vowed to make a difference.

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And he has. Known for taking on cases for free

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for those who cannot afford a lawyer, he's represented over 300

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death row prisoners and increedibly, prevented the death penalty in all

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but six cases. But to Clive, any loss of life is

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unacceptable. When the family ask me why, all I

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can say is it's a sick world, it's a sick world.

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We treat people with standards by which we'll be judged. When history

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will be written, his life will be seen as huge importance. He's put

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himself under hunger strike out of solidarity for the last detainee in

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Guantanamo Bay. During the course of his career, he's been called a

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traitor, all simply for fighting for basic human rights. Working in the

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field that Clive has for 30 years and to keep going has got to be

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really, really applauded. Clive Stafford Smith is brave, passionate

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and an authentic British humanitarian.

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There are 12 candidates in all. It's a difficult question to choose a TV

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legend or human rights lawyer, but who would you go for there, Michael

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or Clive? Michael Palin's just agreed to star in my film so it

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would be incredibly ungrateful if I didn't pick him, so I'll go for

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Clive. Excellent.A very important an extraordinary man and less sung

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than Michael. There'll be more People's Portrait

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nominees later this week and you can vote for your favourite when the

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lines open on Friday. If you want to see them all now, go to the website.

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Also this week, we will be saluting the summer of 2013 and saying thank

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you so much for all that brilliant sunshine we've had. So we'd like you

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to send us your stories, pictures and videos of the best thing you got

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up to this summer. We want to see the highlights,

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looking forward to that one of you celebrating at Wimbledon. Thanks for

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looking forward to that one of you the ones you have sent in so far.

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E-mail us your videos, links or the ones you have sent in so far.

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however you want to do it. All the details are on the website. You can

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see Ian's new comedy at BBC Two tomorrow at 9. Bye. Bill

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