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Hello, and welcome to The One Show with Miss Jones. And Mr Baker. We

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are joined by an actress at the forefront of the ratings war with

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the BBC and ITV. She lost out in Upstairs Down stairs against

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Downton Abbey in the posh costume drama. Now she is's back in a new

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category, Best Costume Drama set in a department store, it's Sarah

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Lancashire. I have to explain, it's not that I have run out of normal

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day-to-day clothes. But they asked me to put this on to have a feel

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really of what you have been going through filming The Paradise.

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is fine but you haven't got a corset on. That's the painful bit.

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I can't lower myself. It's restrictive. You get used to it.

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You haven't got a bustle on? I have but it's collapsing, which I

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couldn't believe. Do you see? It's there. Is that it there? When you

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sit down the whole thing collapses. Even I should have a corset on,

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apparently. If you were in sort of military dress uniform then, yeah

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at times you would wear a corset. You look very smart, though. The

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whole point is that the BBC is coming out with The Paradise, set

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in a department store. Also, ITV have one called Mr Selfridge, based

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on Selfridges. Yeah, they do!, there's two! Why is a department

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store so good for drama, so rich for drama. It's not that dissimilar

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to Upstairs Down stairs really because you have got, or Downton,

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one of my favourites, because you have got the front of house, which

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is the shop, and then you have got all the goings on behind stairs,

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which is the staff. You have got the hierarchy going on. You don't

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really need to import stories because they're all there. People

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are passing through. It sounds just up my street. We will talk more

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about that later. If you are a relative worked in a department

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store send us a photo. Let's see how far back in time. The earlier

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the better, we are looking for costumes, everything. We will see

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if we can get back to the early 1900s. Now our National Parks were

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created to protect places of beauty to protect wildlife and for

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tourists. In Northern Ireland, where the latest park is planned,

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not everyone is welcoming the proposals with open arms.

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The stunning mountains of Mourne, there are 354 square miles of

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amazing scenery south of Belfast. It's one of three areas in Northern

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Ireland being proposed as a National Park. The others are the

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Fermanagh lakelands and Causeway coast. National Parks are protected

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areas that have laws to ensure the preservation of the environment and

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local culture. Although, ownership of land isn't affected, the

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National Park Authority does have a strong influence on planning and

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development. Back in the 1930s, the Campaign to Protect Rural England

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was drumming up support, showing films like this in local cinemas.

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There are thousands of square miles of country and coast which should

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be made into National Parks. Extensive districts to be preserved

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and kept for public enjoyment and health... The first National Park

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created was the Peak District in 1951. There are now 15 parks in

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England, Scotland and Wales, but none in Northern Ireland. Welcome

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to Mourne. Dessie's family has farmed in the mourns for

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generations and -- Mournes for generations. He is dead set against

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it. If a park got set up here here how would it affect your day-to-day

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living? We have rules and regulations from local Government

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bodies, we don't think we need more. There is no set of rules and

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regulations they can show us that will stick. They can be changed at

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any minute. It's those potentially unpredictable changes that worry

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Dessie and the consequences for future generations. Twoeuf children,

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I would like them to stay, work and live in the area. I don't think a

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park will allow them to do that. The laws on planning mean you will

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have to move outside to get a decent job and affordable housing.

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The Mournes are already designated an area of outstanding natural

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beauty with a variety of restrictions in place. While Dessie

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thinks a National Park would be a disaster for him and his family,

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others see it as a great opportunity. The National Park is

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the brand that's known worldwide for saying this is a quality

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landscape area, where you will also have good opportunities for

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enjoyment. One thing, for example, our infrastructure for visitors is

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pretty poor. Car parks are small. Pathways aren't well signed. A lot

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of pathways are getting eroded and that's where the connection of

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allowing people to enjoy and also protecting comes in. Another

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example would be rangers to greet people at places like this, work

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with farmers and say, well, are there issues where recreation is

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conflicting with farmers. Those farmers we worked with have seen

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great benefits. It's predicted a National Park here could almost

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double tourism revenues and bring nearly 2000 new jobs but it's in

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Belfast where the final decision will be made. Issues about land and

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ownership run deep in the history of this island. Issues and concerns

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about the reach of big Government because of EU regulations has

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created a situation where people are distrustful. This can be a win

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for tourism, win for farmers, a win for those out of work. But National

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Parks reason just a completely rosy picture N the past, they've caused

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real problems where they've been introduced. I want to have a

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National Park in the image of what we need in the north, given our

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different circumstances in the rural area, grow jobs, and at the

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same time, protect that heritage for future generations going

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forward. The Minister will have to convince those in Government and

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residents that this is a good decision. Meanwhile, here in

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Kilkeel those people know what they want that decision to be. Because

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of the evidence that we have got from different National Parks that

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we have visited on the UK mainland and in south of Ireland where

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they're all on publicly owned land, the farmers there tell us stay

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clear of a National Park. If there was a chance of a large company

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wanting to come to this part of Northern Ireland to set up business,

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they will not come to a National Park because they perceive the

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bureaucracy and red tape and stuff they have to go through. Can you

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see any benefits of this part of the world becoming a National Park?

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None whatsoever. Overcoming strong local opposition is going to be a

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major challenge. It's likely to be several years before a final

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decision on National Parks is made in Northern Ireland. Joe Crowley is

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here. How are you? Very well. do you think of the dress? Yeah,

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definitely, I feel underdressed. You could at least have worn a

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waistcoat! I feel like the chauffeur in Downton. Are there

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more National Parks planned? have 15 at the moment. The latest

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one was created in 2010, the South Downs National Park, it was two

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areas of outstanding natural beauty brought together. And now there's a

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proposal to extend two National Parks, not create a new one, but to

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extend the Lake District and the Yorkshire Dales, extend to the east

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and the dales to the west. Like the M6 then. Basically almost touch but

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not quite. The M6 would separate them and still two distinctive

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parks, just a bit bigger. Sarah u don't have anything against

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National Parks. I love National Parks, I love the countryside and I

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am I am glad we have a lot of it. I love National Parks. I don't want

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to wander in them. Why not? Well, I don't know. What else would do you

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in them? You don't get the weather. I have a dog, I walk my dog a lot.

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But that tends to be locally. I wouldn't specifically set out to go

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and walk in a National Park. As you said, because you could get on with

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other things. You see, I just think, can we finish the walk quickly? And

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then I can get home. And get on with the things I need to do.

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good. At last figures show what us girls have known for years, we are

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officially, Sarah, smarter than the boys. Yeah. I am not going to argue

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against that. Joe? OK, it's easier. When it comes to getting top

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degrees 57% of firsts go to women. But as Ruth Goodman explains for

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years one of our top universities believed women unworthy of the

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honour. Today there's nothing unusual about

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the sight of women graduating from university.

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But it wasn't always that way. University education in Britain

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dates back to 1096. But for most of that long history women were

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excluded. It took a special band of pioneers to break down the doors of

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this male preserve. And demand to be let in.

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Up until the late 19th century education was seen as the preserve

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of men. Women Women certainly had no place at a university. Doctors

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warned that women's brains were five ounces lighter than mens and

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if they used them too much not only would they wear them out but wombs

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would wither A daughter who was educated or one who can bear

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children? In the 1860s Emily Davies, Kane an educational campaigner

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persuaded Cambridge to let her establish a university college for

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women in Hertfordshire. The first of its kind, it had just

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five students. She wanted women to be able to

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study abroad -- a broad range of subjects and sit the same exams as

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men and the college was accepted because the university didn't have

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to pay for it. She was financesed by wealthy benefactors and students

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themselves. In 1873 they moved to a larger building just outside

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Cambridge and became another college T boasted tennis courts, a

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swimming bath and even a Fire Brigade. By the 1930s there were

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more than 400 women at Cambridge. Joyce, now 96, arrived in 1935 to

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study modern languages. Well, it was awesome, for me just getting

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into Cambridge was wonderful. did the men treat you in lectures?

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Some of the lecturers, particularly the older ones, were not keen.

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There was one who famously always said to his mixed class, good

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morning gentlemen. It was rather rude. But there was a big snag. In

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1938 when Joyce left the college she didn't get a degree. Despite

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having passed all her exams with flying colours. At Cambridge, women

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were allowed to sit the same exams as men, but they weren't awarded a

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degree. Back in 1897 the Cambridge

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University Senate held a vote on whether female students should be

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allowed to officially graduate. The meeting culminated in a full-scale

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riot by male students which saw them hanging an effigj of a woman

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from the Senate building. thought it was a preposterous idea,

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don't give them a degree because they might want a real job. So,

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Cambridge Cambridge withheld degrees for another 50 years.

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the time Joyce was at college every other university was awarding women

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official degrees but Cambridge took until 1948 to finally change their

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policy. My chief feeling was at last! I was very happy for

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everybody. Then, 50 years later, in 1998 Cambridge University held a

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special ceremony to honour all the women who had not been allowed to

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graduate. We went to the Senate house in our gowns. When we got

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into the middle of town the bells of St Mary's were peeling and the

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whole town seemed to be happy and rejoicing with us. There was a

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sense of huge satisfaction. It was wonderful.

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It was a great day. 900 of them turned up. Some of them had been

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waiting 60, 70 years for this day. The oldest was 97, I think. I felt

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that this is the end of the story. This is the last chapter. From now

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on, women have their rightful place at Cambridge University.

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When I graduated I did so as an equal alongside the men. But that

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is something that I owe to people like Joyce who were the pioneers,

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who paved the way for an equality that we now can all take for

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granted. We were just talking there, you

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said you were very studyious at university or drama school. Yeah, I

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trained down at the Guildhall in London. I didn't get a degree, I

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just became an associate when I I was a very compliant child. So I

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was a studious pupil. So, let's talk about The Paradise.

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The Radio Times describes it as Lark Rise Goes Shopping. Would you

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agree with that? I would, really, but I think it has gone up a notch,

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to be honest. In what way? Well, I think it is, I

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mean, the production values are fantastic. The design of the piece.

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Bill Gallagher has taken the premise of, and -- an Emile Zola

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novel, and he has taken the infrastructure of one of his novels

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and it is the department store and some of its crashings -- characters

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and he has built on top of that. So most of what you see is an

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adaptation of the novel. Let's have a look at a clip.

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must learn how to wear clothes. If you keep your hair long, tie it up

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properly. It looks like a dog's tail. There will be no relations

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with the male staff. No relations. Any manner of relations on the shop

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premises will be dealt with swiftly and severely. The predecessor was

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discovered with a young man... Alone in her room! APPLAUSE

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Well, Miss Audrey knows her own mind, doesn't she? Yes. 7

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important is her career to her? It looks like it is everything to her?

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Well, she, it is interesting, later on in the series we learn more

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about her. The reason that it looks like she a career woman, but she

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could not marry and have a job at the same time.

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Really? You couldn't work in a shop when she started and be married,

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probably the same as school teachers who could not be married

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either. So she had to choose. the drama fans love the outfits as

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much as the drama. So we have set up our own shop. This is Dave's The

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Prop Man's Department Store. Yes, he works in the store. He built it

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this afternoon. We have Beatrice from the Museum of London to take

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us through the ladies' women's wear history. So who were the typical

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customers in the early years? was aimed in the -- to the women.

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Mostly the middle-class and the upper-class. Women were intoxicated

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by shopping. Sometimes they took things without

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paying for them. So, very much the start of shopping

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as we know it? Very much so. What was the "in" dress to have?

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Well, looking at what you are wearing, it is what one was meant

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to have. Women take up a lot of space. The objects were not very

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much made for, women did icicating, -- ice skating b u you looked

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better when you were sitting. I agree.

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So, they had lovely accessories to go with the dresses, and Dave sells

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lovely gloves in the shop. Dave, what do you have for news the way

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of gloves? We, e-- well, he seems to have original gloves. They were

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very much a beautiful accessory, but functional as you were meant to

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stay pale. You were not meant to be in the sun. Then another accessory,

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which is a parasol. So again that was a pretty thing, but it was

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meant to shade your face from the sun.

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It tucks nicely under the arm. This one is to take when you are

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travelling in a carriage. Thank you, Beatrice. Thank you for

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bringing everything in. The Paradise starts tomorrow night at

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9.00pm on BBC One. Now, one of Britain's biggest ever

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engineering projects is underway under the streets of London. It is

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all about getting rid of dirt, but today's tunnelers need more than

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sturdy pair of trousers to do this. Under neath me there is a hole

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being dug. It is all for Europe's largest construction project,

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Crossrail. It is a new train link. Running for 118 kilometres.

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Tunnelling takes place 24 hours a day, seven days a week. It will

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generate about 6 million tons of earth. They can't leave giant

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molehills everywhere, so where does the mud go? Well a lot comes out

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here at Royal Oak, one of five tunnel entrances.

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Andy is the Crossrail project manager.

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Tell us about the soil you are extracting? The tunnel here is a

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London clay, a hard, dense, clay material. It is ideal for

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tunnelling, it is stable, but it is easy to dig.

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It is why the London underground network developed so easily 100 or

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so years ago. It is helpful when we are digging

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it out for the new railway. The earth from this site is loaded

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by a conveyor belt to a freight train, then on to a barge and

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shipped to wal see island in the Thames Estuary to start its new

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life as a wildlife reserve. When the Channel Tunnel was built,

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nearly 5 million cubic metres of chalk mile needed a new home. The

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nature reserve in Kent was a result. If you wandered what happened to

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the twin towers of the old Wembley stadium, it ended up here.

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And this along the bank of the River Mercy is made from household

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waste from the Queen's tunnel. Over the next four years, about 4.5

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million tons of earth from the Crossrail tunnel will make t its

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way here to wal see island. It will be a home for tens of thousands of

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birds, and helping to combat coastal flooding by recreating the

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wetlands. Paul, can any soil make a nature

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reserve? No, the soil from the Crossrail tunnel is ideal as it has

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been laid down as a marine soil, many thousands of years ago. You

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can't use any soil. It is either too acid or too alclee, or it

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breaks when in contact with water. So you need something that is sold,

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compatible with the environment you are coming into So this flaich

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reserve is fantastic? Yes it creates a habitat for many wildlife

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species, but we are hopeful that it will attract birds we have not seen

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for over 50 years. Some Kentish Plufr. We are hopeful that will

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come back and breed here. As far as the eye can see, this

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whole area is going to become the nature reserve it is incredible.

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This huge project is not due to be completed nool 2019, but with UK

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guidelines stating that waste must be used for more than just landfill

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we will see more unusual ways to make use of construction debris.

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Thank you very much, Angellica Bell. As well as soil, they have dug up a

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mammoth's jaw and Roman boots and lots of coins. All sorts of things.

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Now, bug man George McGavin is about to tell you now, that we have

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nothing on the humble ant when it comes to moving soil. Locked away

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on high security Ministry of Defence larned, there are mounds

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occupied by armies marching in their thousands and working in

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bunkers deep under the ground. A landscape shaped by its inhabitants,

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ants. You need special permission to gain access to the Defence,

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Science and Technology Laboratory at this place, but I know just the

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man. Stewart Colbert is in charge of

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this area. Stewart, this lan scape looks phenomenal. Have you any idea

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of the ant landmines around here? We calculate that there are about 3

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million ant hills. 3 million? If you assume there are tens of

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thousands in one hill, how many ants do you think? The original

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calculation was about 35 billion ants.

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That is mind boggling! The mounds are built by the yellow meadow ant.

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Common throughout Britain, but not usually found in such huge numbers.

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Acquired by the Ministry of Defence, this land has been left undisturbed

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for decades, an unusual scenario, allowing the ants to colonise to

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form Britain's largest ant landscape. Dr Tim King has been

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studying ant hills for 35 years and documented this area back in the

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late 70s. Today I brought him back to look at the same individual

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mounds to see if they have changed. These ants live sophisticated

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lifestyles, forming complicated relationships with many other

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insects. Opening up the nests is the only way to find out more, but

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will cause no lasting harm. We can see some of the workers here.

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They have very small eyes, as you expect for an underground ant. They

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communicate largely by smell. Usually with ants in your hands,

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they bite or sting you, but these don't. They just tickle.

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Oh, look! That is probably a Queen pupa. These are probably the pupa

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of a typical worker which are smaller.

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Each nest is run by a single Queen. It is the queens that form the

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colonies? That is right. The males have no further use in life.

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It was ever thus! Throughout the day, the worker ants move the brood

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around the nest, ensuring it is kept in the warmest chambers, but

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Tim has found something very fascinating.

:25:15.:25:25.
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Now, this is it... No! Is it really? Please, say it is. Oh, yes,

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a little colony of ants living p active in the mound. These ants are

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providing food for the entire colony. So, the ants are eating the

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honey due which is the aphids' excrement and eating their young as

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well? Yes, it is thought that the aphids get protection from the

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other insects that may otherwise eat them. So, real farming animals

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in the same way that we do? Exactly. But that is not the end of the

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story. Look at that wood lice. Is that a weird thing? That is a white

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wood loss. This eats the rubbish generated by the ants.

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This is amazing. You have an ant that basically interacts with its

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environment, farms aphids, has trash carriers in the form of blind

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wood lice that clear up after them. It is incredibly complex.

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Would you say that you knew everything about them? No! I never

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tire of looking at them. Every time you look, you find something new.

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It seems incredible to think that the landscape is shaped by the

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activities of these incredibly tiny but hard-working ants. Also that

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you can spend 40 years looking at them in depth and still not find

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out everything that there is to know about them.

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He loves an ant, doesn't he? Incredible.

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Well, earlier on we asked for pictures if you or relatives worked

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in a department store years ago. We have had lots of really nice

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pictures in. Sarah, can you show us your one first? This is stpaduction.

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A photo of sev -- this is stpaduction.

:27:20.:27:30.
:27:30.:27:30.

A photo of seven store assistants. They work in Sam's & Sons.

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This is from Liverpool. Some girls shaving some famous' 70s,

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footballers. This one is from Plymouth in 1907

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from Keith in Devon. Thank you very much. All inspired by The Paradise.

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Now, we didn't get a chance to see this.

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This is my second costume. I have one outfit and one very special

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scene, much later on in the series. How comfortable is that, then,

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Sarah to wear? That is incredibly comfortable. It is a soft cotton,

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but it is the underpinnings that, initially, they are uncomfortable

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with the corset, but to be honest when you have worn the corset for

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about two week it is moulds to your shape and half an hour after you

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have put it on in the morning it softens down. It is not really that

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painful. How long does it take you to get

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ready then? I can be literally out of my own clothes and in my costume

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in ten minutes. That is good going.

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It all starts tomorrow night? forgotten about that! Tomorrow,

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9.00pm on BBC One. Thank you very much. I can't wait

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