26/07/2016 The One Show

Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones.

With the Rio Olympic Games only ten days away, we are about to take you

back 32 years to relive one of and talked about moment in Olympic

history. Let's set the scene, it is the 1984 Summer Olympics in Los

Angeles and everyone is focused on the 3000 metres final. Yes, it was

the race everyone was waiting for. The word record-breaking American

against the world record-breaking barefoot South African, representing

Great Britain. The stakes could not have been higher, the world was

watching and then this happened. COMMENTATOR: Barefooted, she is

happier barefooted, Dekhar is down. The world champion and now one of

the favourites is flat out on the infield. Mary Decker-Slaney out on

the race. I think her foot caught me and to avoid pushing her, I fell. I

don't think there was any question that she was in the wrong. Together

for the first time on live television since that very famous

incident, it is Mary Decker-Slaney and Zola Budd. CHEERING

Welcome to you both. Goodness, it was fascinating just watching both

of your faces when that clip came on. Still obviously very emotional

for both of you. We are going to talk about that at length a bit

later in the show. We are. It struck me, having seen that clip, watched

the documentary and invited you today, we put you in the same

dressing room and Amad Butt, hang on a minute, is anything right? But you

have been travelling the world together and we're very much made

up. I do think there is anything to make up about. I don't think there

was anything between as anyway, it was all the media. We were never on

a bad footing after the fall. It was all media hype. It is all documented

in this documentary called The Fall, which sort of said what happened in

the lead up to the Olympics, what happened during the final and the

aftermath. Hopefully we can share that with our viewers a bit later.

Thank you for joining us. If you are about to get married, you might find

this next film a bit difficult to watch. Imagine the agony, OK? You

have been looking forward to a dream wedding and then suddenly it is

snatched away from you right at the last minute. That is the nightmare

scenario that came true for a host of unlikely scenarios. Joe Crowley

with what was the best man to tell us more. Welcome to The One Show

wedding of the year. Not mine, there is. Gail oh, and Iain are tying the

knot. But the happy couple did not almost make it down to the aisle,

thanks to a rogue wedding planner. This woman Michelle McMorris, she

ran happy talk events in Glasgow, which hired out everything from

dance floors to ornate centrepieces. Gail spent ?1200 here. I just wanted

the finishing touches to our day. I had always wanted my sparkly dance

floor, my candelabras, I thought why not? Just weeks before the big day,

her wedding planner shut up shop without warning. My stomach was

churning, and I became really upset, because it was a sudden realisation

that I had lost all the items I had booked, but not only that, I have

lost so much money as well. And Gail was not the only bride left in the

lurch was not pulling McEwen and Graham Strachan had handed over

several hundred pounds to happy talk to add sparkle to their big day.

After it closed down, they found Michelle McMorris less than happy to

talk. We were e-mailing, the e-mails were coming back to save e-mail

account had been closed, website no longer existed, even phoning was

going straight answer phone. It was gut-wrenching. I don't lie. There

were a lot of tears. It makes me more angry that summary had actually

planned this. It is the lowest of the loan. Michelle McMorris

disappeared, leaving 200 brides out of pocket. Many had no insurance or

credit card protection in place, so have lost the lot. My daughter Kelly

paid 2300 in total. 2300? Oh my goodness. Weeden she did it as a

bank transfer, no comeback, so she has lost it, that's it. That is it

standing here? That is my centrepiece in the window.

Everything is in the back as well. How angry were you when she found

out you had done a runner? -- when she found -- when you find that she

had done a runner? To run away with it all is just horrendous,

horrendous. Lin Glasgow worked at Happy Que talk events during its

final six months and is now having to save some of the wedding is left

hanging in the balance free from charge. Most weekends we had about

20 weddings to go, and in the summer profit rise that was about ?40,000

per month. So it seems the firm wasn't a casualty of austerity.

Whatever the reasons, anxious brides to be like Gail now face paying out

all over again if their big day is to go ahead. After all the problems,

how has it turned out? Absolutely fantastic. I could not have asked

for a better day. What do you think Michelle right now? She is probably

refers -- the furthest person from it right now because I'm having such

a great time with family and friends. I just hope she gets the

punishment she deserves. So where is R planner who has run away hiding?

She is not at her shop and she has moved out of her rented house. And

new Happy Talk companies have already been registered, but not in

Scotland. It seems Michelle McMorris and her family have upped sticks and

moved the other side of the Atlantic. We've tried to contact her

in Florida, but our e-mails, letters and phone calls have gone

unanswered. Back here in Scotland, we think there is one very special

wedding message she needs to hear. Sorry, Michelle, but this is one

wedding you didn't manage to real income isn't that right? CHEERING

And if Michelle McMorris sets foot back in Scotland, she will find

trading standards ready and waiting to talk to her. For these guys, only

one thing left to do, party! CHEERING

Big congratulations to Gail and Iain, so glad their day was ruined

in the enemy had their magic moment. Absolutely. Mary, we have to comment

here that you married a Brit and he is with us in the studio. It is none

other than Richard Slaney, you may recognise from Britain's strongest

man, 1992. There you are in order to glory. He could lift up the entire

audience! Let's talk more about this incredible documentary, which is

called The Fall, to do with the incident in the 84 Olympics but much

more than that actually because it reminds right back to your lives.

Some beautiful footage of you both when you were incredibly young, and

discovering the joys of running. Back in the day, how did running

make you feel, Mary? Absolutely horrible. It was the most --

absolutely whole. It was the most natural thing I could do, and I

heard Zola saying she chose running because she could not do another

sport, I'm there with you! None of the ball sports. Running was it. I

found it completely by accident. I didn't know what organised running

was until I was 11 years old when I started. It's funny watching the

documentary, because your belly similar actually as young girls. --

very similar foster both found running quite cathartic, especially

for you, Zola, it was an escape for you? Yes, both me and Merhi, we both

love running. It is quite interesting, because when we started

talking, I told her I love running but I don't really like watching

athletics. And she's the same! So you not looking forward to the

Olympics coming up then? LAUGHTER Just kidding. We have some friends

and people we know competing, but I am not a keen follower of athletics.

There was that love of running but because of where you are from from

South Africa, and apartheid, you are not allowed to compete on the world

stage, and then this opportunity came for you as a young athlete to

compete for Great Britain because of your grandfather. So what did it

feel like to be given that opportunity to compete at the

Olympics? At that time, I was still very young. I just felt this is my

chance. I'm never going to have a chance to run for South Africa on

the international stage. And that was 84, so it was five years before

1989 and everything changed in the world. It was my opportunity to be

able to run internationally. MNU came over to Britain and things

changed then quite dramatically, didn't they? It says in the

documentary you felt a bit like you are under house arrest, because all

of the press of energy and suddenly the dreams that you had for the

Olympics were not dashed, but you felt very differently, going into

the race, didn't you? Definitely coming yes, the idea I had about

running internationally and all the dreams I had, reality just to get

close to it. My dreams didn't get close to what reality was. Mary, for

you, Olympic gold was the dream, wasn't it? Boycotted Olympics you

have missed out on, and then suddenly Los Angeles 84, and you

were in your prime, ready to go. Did it feel like you are going to win

that girl? It felt like that was the best chance I had of winning gold

medal or any medal. Looking back on my career, 1984 would have been the

year I would have won something. The race then started. If you both sort

of talk us through what happened here. This is earlier in the race.

Mary, here you are, you can see both of you there. Go wrong, Mary, just

tell us what is happening at this point. Well, my coach had mentioned

before the race that if somebody else wanted to take the pace for a

couple of laps, to let them. That is typically not the way I would run, I

typically ran from the front. That is what I was used to. But that

comment was going through my mind, so I was thinking, OK, that's OK,

you know, do that. And in hindsight, it was the wrong choice for me,

because I wasn't used to running in a pack. And the infamous incident

happened, and whatever happened, happened, and it just went so

quickly I'm sure for the pair of you, you are unaware of what had

gone on. It seemed like a total accident. Zola, what do you remember

of that? I remember the race got really bumpy. I went to the front

because I was running barefoot, and I was scared I was going to get

spiked, which did happen, but I just felt a bump, and then the next lap I

came round and I saw Mary lying on the infield, and that is my

recollection of what happened. But you had a really good chance of

winning that race, Zola, but then you seem to have slowed down. So

what were you thinking? Were you slowing down on purpose? I think to

be honest I knew beforehand I didn't really have a chance of winning the

Gold Medal. I knew that Mary, just so much more stronger than I was. I

don't have the explosive pace. For me, at least I knew I was aiming for

a bronze. But after the crowd started brewing, I just decided I

never want to go back into that stadium ever again. Over. Mary, 32

years have gone by, you have made this documentary now, how cathartic

as it been for you, or not? No, it has been cathartic. It has been

interesting, because I have seen aspects of the 84 Olympics and the

3000 in particular. I had never ever watched the race until this past, I

guess it was March, when we were filming. You know, it was

interesting to actually watch the race, and watch the other athletes,

Wendy Sly and Lynne Williams, because I honestly did not know, I

mean I knew who the medallists were, but I didn't know how the race went.

So it was interesting, and to an odd extent it was enjoyable to actually

watch the race. Really? It is an extraordinary watch, I know that

word is often used but it really is worth watching. You can see The Fall

on sky Atlantic this Friday at 9pm and also at selected cinemas

nationwide from the same date. Plus, carrying on the same Olympic theme

with Gabby Logan later, she will be joining us on the sofa. Looking

forward to that. Look down now and you are probably wearing a pair. No,

because we have got the heels on. On the track, Mary wore someone's with

spikes in and Zola didn't really bother at all. This is how one

inventor from Bolton helped soothe the sales of one inventor -- runners

all over the world. Loved by elite athletes and fashion icons alike.

One by billions of people across every continent, the trainer. They

were not designed in LA or New York, but right here, in Bolton. In 1898,

a local cobbler, Joe Foster, had a bright idea that would change the

face of footwear. Abby Foster is his great, great granddaughter.

He loved running, so he decided to have the best running shoe. He

created the first spike shoe. Did they make a difference? They did

indeed. They had more power. They would grip the floor. It was new

technology. So he took that technology and mass produced it into

the foster's running pump, the first of its kind. In 1924, Britain's

Olympic athletic stars, Harold Abrahams and Eric Liddell, war

foster's running shoes and won two gold medals, a silver and bronze.

They were later immortalised in the classic film chariots of fire. It

really put Foster on the map. It was the first shoe factory to create

running shoes. Because of their strong reputation, Foster's were

commissioned to create footwear for the British at 16. Ten years later,

a family dispute caused a rival brand to emerge, one that was to

become one of the most famous brands on the planet. My great great uncle

Billy wanted to carry on with the traditional running shoes, where my

grandfather and his brother Jeff wanted to use more innovative

technologies. So in 1958, they left the company and set up on their own.

And that brand needed a new name. It came from the South African

dictionary, and the name of the company is Reebok. Wow, what does it

mean? It is an Afrikaans term for a swift footed gazelle. Reebok are now

one of the most recognisable brands in the world, with international

sales in excess of ?1.4 billion last year. But the town of Bolton wasn't

done with the trainer yet. In 1961, the star designer of Foster's Norman

Walsh decided to set up his own footwear business. There must be

something in the air around here. Norman started off in a room in his

mum and dad's terraced house, and he did really well. 55 years later,

Norman's business is still going strong. John Compton now runs

Norman's trainers. You're going to completely make your own pair of

trainers for yourself. Hopefully, at the end of the day, you can take

them away. Oh, wow! Norman was an innovator in his time. In the early

60s, when he first set up, he was the first one to start using nylon

for the light weight. They look retro, but still seem contemporary.

You had an knife or colours. So he could put together a combination to

make his shoes stand out and make them different from other

manufacturers. He had a small shop. You could go up on a Saturday, and

one of the big British wrestlers would be there, buying a pair of

wrestling boots. Joe Public got them at one price, but the sports people,

he always stuck an extra fiver on. I like that! So, these are the

trainers you have made. Well done. Amazing, my own peace of Bolton.

You're welcome. Well, we have now got the finished

article. Visual gag coming up. Here we are! What do you think of those?

Zola, obviously you prefer to run barefoot. But what do you think of

those? They are nice. From an aesthetic point of view. They seemed

underwhelmed! They look a little retro. I try and run as much as

possible. Just for a sense of freedom? I just love running

barefoot on the grass. When I run by a foot, I don't get injuries. These

are a size six, perfect. We are joined by Gabby Logan, who is

heading to Rio as part of the BBC's Olympics presenting team. There is

always negativity before the Olympics, will be pull it out of the

bag, the buildings are not ready, there is always a bit of that, even

in London. Absolutely. Are they going to do it? Of course, and it

will have its own personality and we will all get hooked and be glued to

it, even though the timings don't necessarily help with 24 hour

round-the-clock viewing. My son has already warned me, I am not sleeping

while you are away. But for you guys, there was the 1980 Olympics

and a boycott, so it is not new to have problems heading into an

Olympic Games. On that note of boycotting countries not being

there, let's talk about the Russian doping scandal. Over the weekend,

there was a lot of discussion over whether there would be a blanket

ban, but now there is not a bagged band and a lot of sporting stars

have come out with their pin in about that. They are not happy,

because they feel the IOC has passed the buck on this. The IAAF, the

athletics Federation, said, we are banning Russian athletes from the

Olympic Games because of the systematic doping that was taking

place. Then the president was that. Over to you, the IOC. And they came

out on Sunday and said no, we will not have a blanket ban, we will

leave it to the individual federations. That puts a lot of

pressure on those federations. It is such a short period of time as well,

and a lot of athletes feel they have passed the buck. Chris Hoy was one

of them. Where do you stand on this, Zola and Mary? Should there be a

blanket ban? I don't think I know enough about exactly what is going

on. But I feel it should be on an individual basis, because I feel

that to ban the whole team is unfair. You can't assume that

because there was doping, every Russian athletes did it. People feel

aggrieved about what has emerged from Sochi. They are in charge of

the drug testing at their own Olympics, and they were cutting

holes in the wall to swap clean samples for negative samples. There

was a systematic approach to drug doping, which is not something that

is about a rogue individual. But it is not new either. It has been going

on in the 70s and 80s. I think we would agree that the testers need

more money. Wilder, the testing body, needs to be funded better. The

IOC will damage its brand if it doesn't protect itself. How do you

stop this from going on? That has been a question for as long as I

have been running, and that is a long time. It is a tough one, but I

am with Zola. I don't feel there should be a blanket ban, especially

in a sport that is so individual. Maybe a team sport, whether it is a

volleyball team or a basketball team. Running is such an individual

sport. My opinion is that you can be offered drugs, but you don't have to

take them. It is about when you're funding is dependent on your

application to the squad. That is where it gets quite messy. Which

they are you most looking forward to, Gabby? The first Saturday of the

athletics, for us. We are getting a bit nationalistic hate. The USA will

win medals every day, but we had that fantastic Saturday where we saw

Mo Farah Jessica Ennis as she was then and Greg Rutherford all winning

gold medals, and they compete again on the same first Saturday in those

events. So we could see ourselves do it again. To be honest, the US have

a fantastic women's gymnastics team, but as far as Great Britain are

concerned, we are in with a good chance of some medals. Most final

days, we will see British action in there. That has come around really

quickly. I am so excited. The men's bronze in London was one of my

favourite medals in the Olympic Games. We may even have our first

Olympic champion as well. On the pommel horse. You have to set your

alarm for the middle of the night, but for gymnastics, we are in One

Show time! Thank you, Gabby. The BBC's coverage of the Olympic Games

begins on Friday the 5th of August from 11:35 p.m.. Now, what prompts

someone to walk away from the religious beliefs they were born

into? To find out, Amber Haque match two women who have struggled with

their faiths and make that difficult choice.

Aliyah and Christal were brought up to believe in God. And they are, as

a Muslim. I was so intensely religious that I would have said it

was OK to star in a person for adultery. Christal, as a Christian.

It was individual to me, developing a relationship with God. Growing up,

Aliyah and Christal came to believe that their faiths were not right for

them. But both women felt strongly enough to do something about it.

They walked away. At 18, Aliyah removed failed that she had worn for

almost a decade. I looked in the mirror and realised, this is the

person I am. Christal converted to Islam while in law student at

university. To put on a scarf, you are saying, I am a Muslim now. I

have never taken it off. At the age of 11, Aliyah started to wear the

hijab when her family sent her to an Islamic boarding school in the

Midlands. She found a school's rules hard to live with. He wanted to

listen to music in your own bedroom, you were breaking a rule. If you

want to wear lip gloss, you were freaking overall. She was eventually

expelled and that the age of 16 were sent to Pakistan to study the Koran.

The study was really intensive. I pushed back against it for so long.

And now devout, and a return to the UK to study for her A-levels at her

local sixth form college. I started to identify with it, but realised I

had been made to wear the headscarf against my wishes. The more I read

different criticisms, I moved into atheism. Christal also grew up in

the Midlands, in Birmingham, where she was raised a Christian by her

Jamaican father and British mother. Every Sunday, we would all get

dressed and go to church and Sunday school. What made you want to make

the switch to Islam? When I was doing my first degree. I had never

been in such a multicultural setting, and I met a lot of Muslims.

I was fascinated, so I started doing research. As I read more about

Islam, I identified more with this than the religion I was following.

By the time she had completed her Masters in law, Christal had

converted to Islam. Deciding to give up the faith you were raised in is

one thing. Telling your family of your decision is another. There was

this reaction of, oh my God, does that mean you are going to have a

boyfriend and start drinking? So what is the relationship like now

with your parents? We are in a good place. Some of Christal's family

were also concerned by her decision, as her sister Sharon explains. I

wasn't happy to begin with other because we were brought up very

Christian. I started to realise that it wasn't as big a deal as I felt it

was. I used to have to explain it to people. They would be like, who is

that Muslim girl? People stare, and I think, what are they looking at?

It's just Christal. After leaving the faith they were brought up in,

neither woman has found life straightforward. You feel like

you're not allowed to be part of the community and in more, especially

because I'm Pakistani. To say that you are atheist is still quite

unacceptable. When I came to Islam, I did get a lot of funny looks and

people staring at me. But then I realised they probably just don't

see a lot of black people. Despite the challenges, Aliyah and Christal

both feel they have made the right choice. I don't feel like I have to

answer to those patriarchal rules any more. That gives me a lot of

freedom. Any regrets? None at all. If anything, I wish I had come to

Islam sooner, because I probably would have found peace in my life a

lot quicker than I did. No regrets either side. Thank you to

Aliyah and Christal for sharing their stories. We are almost up, but

we just have time to tell about your new thing, Mary, the ElliptiGO. This

looks fantastic. We heard about Zola doing some running, but you can't

because of arthritis. Explain this, how far do you go on these? Well,

this particular event is only a 12 mile race. But it is completely

uphill. On that? The thing for me is that it saved my sanity. I could not

run. I could shuffle, jog, which didn't give me the same feeling is

running. And on the ElliptiGO, I can go as fast and hard as I want. Last

year, I did 129 miles and 18,000 feet of climbing. It took over ten

hours. I got to dig down. It has been wonderful to talk to you both

tonight. Thank you for your company. You can see The Fall on Sky Atlantic

this Friday at nine o'clock and also at selected cinemas nationwide on

the same date. We will be back tomorrow at seven and we still have

it a World Cup winner of 1956 with Jeremy Vine, and we all said have

Isla Fisher and music from Reeth. Good night.

We know that Verloc planted the bomb. You employ him.

We ought to start thinking about what we're going to do.