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Hello, welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones.

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Tonight's first guest has become a modern-day Dr Doolittle. He is

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surrounded by pigs, sheeps, goats, ducks, a barn owl. On-screen, we

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have seen him talking to elephants, cheetahs and the odd hippo. He is

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most happy when he is in the doghouse. There he is. Please

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welcome Paul O'Grady. How are you? Very well, thanks. Lovely to see

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you. Apart from this lousy weather driving me mad. It is nearly dark

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out there. I spent bank holiday watching daytime television! I can't

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imagine what that looks like. The lady we spoke to on the phone said

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we know animals respond to your voice. You have been trying to get

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this dog up the stairs for a long time? She wouldn't do stairs. Why

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not? She wouldn't. She was a bit Mariah Carey. I had a word and she

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shot up the stairs. This was supposed to happen over a few weeks.

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That was ruined. There was another dog who hadn't eaten for three

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weeks. I said, "Get that down you!" That was ruined as well. It is the

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gift of the gab! I think it is. We will talk more about your new

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series, For the Love of Dogs, later. OK. One man who needs no words of

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encouragement is Mo Farah. After this record-breaking weekend, he is

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having a ball. Quite literally! All in aid of charity. Mo is with us

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tonight and all will be revealed later. He made the most of his

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weekend, Paul! I know he did. He wasn't watching How To Cook! First,

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how is the threat of Islamic State and the recruitment of British young

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men to its cause regarded by British Muslims? Well, we went to

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Birmingham, a city with a Muslim population of 235,000, to canvas

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opinion as the news reported the murder of an American journalist and

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the persecution of minorities in Iraq.

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It doesn't surprise me. It is wrong. It is not right for any human being.

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They have been driven by this agitation and frustration. Young

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people are seeing injustices. They are going to defend what they think

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is morally justified reasons. When you think your brother and sister,

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or a member of the family, have been slaughtered for no reason, what

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would you feel like? You can't handle it. You dant take it. Surely,

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it is anti-Islamic to kill? The Americans are encouraging them. So

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they take the law into their hands. How can the Muslim community stop

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these youngsters from going to fight for groups like IS? More than 90% of

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people, they don't agree with this thing. They are against these

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things. Our kids are growing here. We don't need that terrorist and

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that stuff. We need peace here. I can't understand why they would go

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and fight for another country. I mean, I'm a British - I would rather

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fight for British. Or Britain. Is the West to blame? The sectarian

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violence inthe US. Violence breeds violence. What are Muslim women

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doing about the situation? They are doing what any mother would do, what

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any sister would do, what any wife would do. They can monitor

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behaviours and behavioural patterns to spot anything that's untoward. No

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mother wants their son going abroad to be killed, do they? Why are some

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young Muslims going off to fight in Iraq and Syria? I have not come

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across anyone who is planning to go in Iraq or in Syria. I think most of

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the people are being brainwashed. I think they have been told that Islam

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teaches to do this, this, this. And that teaching has been interpreted

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wrongly. Islam is peace. As a Muslim, we have been taught to like

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any human that's seen in trouble, go out and help them. They should stop

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the innocent being killed in Gaza and maybe the whole world will be at

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peace. If they don't put a stop to that, I think it will end up in

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World War. If American people, or Israeli, taking so many innocent

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lives, so many, and this retaliation to show America, or show to the

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world, if we cannot kill so many, may we kill one. It is brutal

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murder. It is a wrong thing to do. It's a message for America, to do

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the justice. Maajid Nawaz is a former Islamist

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extremist. He is a parliamentary candidate and he joins us now.

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Welcome. We didn't find any support for IS in the film there, although

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people were keen to blame Britain and the US for helping to create it.

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We heard references to Gaza. Do you think they are right then? Or is

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there an element of denial there? It is a lot more complicated than that.

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If we look at the kids that have gone over to join IS in Iraq, yes,

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we all disagree with foreign policy sometimes. I'm sure plenty of people

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have got plenty of things to say. What do those young kids have to do

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with Israel? What about the Yazidis they drove up a mountain and

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threatened genocide against them? They have nothing to do with Israel.

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We have to stop blaming one party and just as we expect the West and

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this society to condemn foreign policy, grievances and where there

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is torture and imprisonment, Muslims have to condemn atrocities when it

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is committed by other Muslims as well. What is the attraction then to

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young Brits, to join an organisation that is causing such atrocities?

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It's become the new trend, the new fashion, but unfortunately there is

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a jihadi call going on. When Robin Williams died, one of these guys is

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with a group that beheads people, but he regretted Robin Williams

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dying. It is a power attraction that is drawing them in? We have to have

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leading Muslim figures stand up to encourage these young kids to get

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involved with the system, with the country, and with the institutions.

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We can succeed here. There is a lot of talk about stopping these

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youngsters from going to Syria to fight. If you came face to face with

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one of these people in the airport before they are about to board the

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plane, what would you say to them then to try and convince not to go?

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I would plead with these people. Get in touch with me. I have witnessed

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the torture. I know what that anger feels like. Get in touch with me.

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I'm all over social media. I will speak to them directly and say you

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are not helping your religion and you are not helping the Syrians. You

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have made it impossible to remove the dictator. Everyone is talking

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about stopping IS. The tables have turned. Everyone is more scared of

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this terrorist group than they were of the dictator in Syria. It's

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backfiring. Please get in touch with me. I can explain how it feels and I

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was a political prisoner in the war on terror. This country will embrace

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you if you turn around. Please get in touch. There is a chance that

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human compassion will take over and some of these actions will draw

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people away? Human compassion is crucial, but what's needed before

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that happens is people to come forward as role models and to start

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speaking out openly. have to take those first few brave

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steps. We are starting a campaign to promote these role models to present

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a positive image of what Muslims can achieve in this country and we all

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want to stand together and say the solution is to engage with this

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country, people will listen. Elections are coming up in May. I

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want young people to register to vote, not to disengage from the

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system, like I did when I was 16. Thank you. Thank you. In a moment,

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we will be hearing all about Paul's new series, the third one. First,

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Michael Mosley meets an extraordinary young entrepreneur

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with an invention that could help us all.

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18-year-old Amber McCleary is an entrepreneur, with an idea that

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could save many lives. Amber has created a range of clothing for

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hospital patients. What makes her invention unusual is the material

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it's impregnated with - copper. It all began when she was just 16.

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Thanks to her smelly dog, Harvey! My initial idea was to create a dog bed

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that would be non-smelling, so I researched a number of fabrics to

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find out which fabrics would be anti-bacterial because it's the

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bacteria that creates the smell. This led Amber to the properties of

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copper. We worked with a few fabric technologists and we found a way to

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put the copper into the fabric. Is this a copper-impregnated dog

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basket? It sure is. The fabric that you can see on the outside is copper

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fabric, copper impregnated. Have you tried it on your smelly dog? I did.

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How did you get from materials which are about reducing the smell to

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hospital-acquired infections? One of my family went into hospital to have

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a baby and she contracted MRSA. I created a pair of pyjamas and it

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went from there. Although we can't be sure that wearing the pyjamas

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helped, Amber has developed a business based on the anti-microbial

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properties of this common metal. MRSA poss a threat to -- pose a

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threat to our health. So, could something as simple as copper really

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be effective against such a deadly foe? This professor has been at the

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forefront of research into this area. Today, he's coated pieces of

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stainless steel and copper with millions of MRSA bacteria to compare

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their anti-bacterial properties. The bacteria's progress will be studied

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in the specially-darkened room, while we watch the results next

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door. They should now be loading the microscopes up. Here we go. The

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green specks are MRSA, tagged with a fluorescent dye. Within seconds, the

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effects of the copper is clear. That is fast. These were exactly the same

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but within seconds of adding them, the copper started to kill. That is

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correct. The MRSA superbug thrives on stainless steel, but on copper,

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they are wiped out within minutes. That is really, really impressive, I

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have to say. That is ten million superbugs dying before your eyes.

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How does copper kill bacteria? We know more about the mechanism.

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Copper does it three-ways. As it races into the cell, it punches

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whole into the cell membrane. It inhibits the respiration and it

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destroys their DNA. Copper could have a wide range of applications

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throughout a hospital. If you do something as simple as replace door

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handles with copper-based alloys, studies have shown that can cut

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infection rates by a half. Amber is hoping if she can persuade enough

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patients to wear copper-impregnated clothing, that could have a

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significant effect on the spread of infections. They have begun testing

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Amber's innovative fabrics. Although not pure metal, the copper material

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is still effective and after 24 hours, the MRSA bacteria have been

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eradicated. It is really interesting and reassuring that the fabric also

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has this anti-microbial activity and it looks promising. Researchers at

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Croydon University Hospital are planning to do clinical trials of

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Amber's clothing, hoping to see if it does slow the spread of infection

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and whether it might promote wound healing. My aim is that we can get

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these products out into the NHS. That will be something great, not

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just for the NHS but for patients as well. The future is golden, or

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coppery? Yes, definitely coppery! would say it is unbelievable! We

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need to make these so fars out of copper! We have got all sorts of

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people sitting on these! You worked in a hospital? I was a

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physiotherapist assistant. You had this Irish dragon of a ward sister

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who wanted to know what you're doing and when the orderlies were there,

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they were organised and cleaning. In the hospital corners, and the matron

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did her rounds, everybody was terrified of her about the place was

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spotless. Why can't we do that again? Give them a good wage and

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train them how to clean the ward. Bring back the hierarchy of the

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sisters. Make visitor hours between such and such a time. On to the

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dogs. I am off on one again! Because I really value the national health

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and we have to do something to save it. It saved me on numerous

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occasions. Saving dogs back at Battersea, the third series and it

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is incredibly popular. Why do people like it? It has spawned all of these

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copycats. But what annoys me is they don't get me, they sort of... Do you

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want me to hold him? What they do is they don't go near them, this is a

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dog. But I get stuck in. He let the wild animals come to you what

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domesticated animals, you can fuss over them. How can I resist? How

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long was it before you adopted one of them? There he is. I go home and

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wordy. It does not finish whenever I leave Battersea. There was a dog

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that I fell head over heels for and I have to take. I did not count on

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Eddie, my other blog who was so fiercely possessive. They could not

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get on? He encouraged the others to attack her! And she was so passive,

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I could not believe her. I had to stay in the house. They had to be

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rescued from your house? Yes, I said leave it in because it shows that it

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is not easy adopting a dog. There are all sorts of things you need to

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take into consideration. Here you are in full Doctor Dolittle mode,

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talking to the animals. Gromit? Makeweight, we will have a chat!

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Right, let me get down. I want to talk to you. Do you know what your

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trouble is? Clinical obesity. But I don't pull my punches, you are fat!

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This has to stop. Philadelphia, progressing to Cheddar cheese and

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then the hard stuff, from France. I have been there! It is terrible, so

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hard. You go in there and what gets me are the older dogs whose owners

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have died and they have ended up in Battersea and they have all sorts of

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ailments and they are sitting in the kennel thinking, why am I hear? That

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breaks my heart. We have seen me as Lily Savage, all of those years

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behind you. What is it next chapter? I will be reading the news and

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weather next! Are you where you want to be? Or do you have more? For the

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love of dangerous reptiles! See if anybody tries to copy that!

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Something less fluffy. But I really enjoy it, it is a very nice job to

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do and it is great for Battersea. People say to me, I always wondered

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what goes on there. And you find out, they are such good people. You

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should the true picture. I love it. All of those lovely dogs and when I

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retire I will be on Channel 4 in a documentary, sitting with a pig next

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to me on the couch! You are not far-away! I am covered in cuts! That

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is from an aisle! For The Love Of Dogs starts on Thursday the 4th of

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September at 8:30pm on ITV. We will talk to Mo Farah in a moment, he is

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fresh from his record picking weekend. First, Moorland is on the

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trail of the dog that would give him a run for his money. I have gone

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down to Battle in East Sussex for a unique spectacle of canine

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behaviour. This is a bloodhound packs, doing what they do best.

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Hunting, living and breathing as they would have done thousands of

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years ago. No other dog can hoover up the scent as well as a bloodhound

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but one generation ago, they would have died out completely but for the

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efforts of breeders like Nick Wheeler. I have got 18 couples

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altogether. They are counted in pairs. I will leave you to work that

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out! Bloodhounds can eat six kilos every day so years of wartime

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rationing in the 40s saw them become nearly extinct. We get to well over

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one tonne of food every month. And they take a lot of exercising, they

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exercise every day to keep fit, they are in a lot of work. A bloodhound

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needs to be exercised up to ten miles everyday. It is not the dog

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for a leisurely country walk. Tell me more about when breeding, what

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characteristics are you trying to get? Obviously, hunting ability is

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paramount. Agility is very important, they have to be able to

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do the job of hunting. Unlike other breeds, bloodhounds do not use their

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eyes to hunt scent trails, only the nose. Their long years help to

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funnel the smell. The nose is down, sniffing the air. Bloodhounds have

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an almost supernatural ability, earning it a unique place in

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history. The story of the English bloodhound is the story of the

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English nation. They came over with William the Conqueror intensity six

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and from then on, English rulers have used the formidable powers of

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the bloodhound to track down enemies. One example would be

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Elizabeth first, it is believed that a troop of 800 bloodhounds

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accompanied her forces to crush the Irish Rebellion, which was quite

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successful. The word bloodhound has become a metaphor for a detective.

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That started at the start of the 19th century, crime writers were

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important to making this connection so, like the bloodhound, Sherlock

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Holmes has his nose to the ground. So swift, silent and furtive were

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his movements, like those of a trained bloodhound. The US police

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still use bloodhounds as working dogs to find missing people. But

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British forces struggled with their expensive upkeep and no longer use

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them. These hounds keep their skills honed by regularly hunting humans,

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like Adrian Pace, across the country. Despite its fearsome name,

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the bloodhound is not bloodthirsty. They do not hunt for the kill, just

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the fun of finding people. And no artificial smells are used to help.

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They are basically just hunting the skin that falls from us while we are

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running, that is why we were the least amount of clothing, if

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possible. Incredible. Adrian needs a decent head start, as bloodhounds

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aren't sent at up to 28 mph. Horseback is the only way to keep

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up. This bloodcurdling arcing means they have find Adrian's smell. These

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bloodhounds are so skilful, they can follow the scent trail days after it

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was laid. Well done, Sir! That was good. Here they come. Fantastic. God

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forbid, if I was a fugitive, I would have given up. On the flip side, if

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I was lost in the wilderness, they would be very welcome sight. I'm

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sure they would, ten miles exercise every day, you could take those out

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twice? You just said, 18 miles everyday. I have not done that in my

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lifetime! Congratulations to Mo Farah! He broke the record set by

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Steve Gorvett 36 years ago. Five years ago before little Mo was born.

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Not a great year, you missed out on the Commonwealth Games? It has been

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up and down, quite disappointing but we take that for granted. My health

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was not right. And I struggled through the year. I would have loved

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to compete at the Commonwealth Games but I was not ready and then I got

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ready for the Europeans. To turn that around in two weeks was amazing

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for me. And real sadness as far as New York was concerned, that

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real-time point in your career? Yes, as a distance runner, I normally do

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10,000 so when you train for the marathon, it takes more out of you.

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You are taking time out to organise a posh bash? It is a charity ball?

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You have just made that up! Bosh? It is a night of champions, for my

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foundation. Do you have to run? No, there is an option. It is a

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brilliant foundation. Yes, we started this in Africa but we all

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involved heavily in the UK, offering athletes a scholarship so we are

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working and hopefully that will go to a very good cause. Tickets are

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available, if you are free on Thursday night for the bosh! I will

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wear my tracksuit! Following on from your success at running, some people

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have put some pictures together, interesting pictures, this is you on

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the finishing line. Running from the Teletubbies? This got us thinking,

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we have a challenge for both of you. You are going to play, if you do not

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mind, What's Behind Mo? We have the green screen over there, guess who

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is behind it. Teamwork! This is all an explanation, you must describe

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what is appearing behind Mo Farah. Is he in position? Assume the

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finishing position. And your face, and the arms. There you are. Paul,

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if you are ready. You cannot mention it, just describe it. Here is the

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clue. Na-na-na-na. I don't know. It eats people! Shark? It is a film.

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Shark? That will do. What sort of shark? Move on. They are in Doctor

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Who, they say ex-terminate. The third one? My Lord. She is a very

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beautiful lady with dark roots, she is known for her compassion and your

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good taste and her sense of humour. She is lovely. Just say Lily Savage!

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You have time. Hang on. Set the scene. It hit the iceberg and sank.

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It is Bishop. It means enormous. Titanic? Yes! Thank you so much for

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being such a great sport. Thank you for your help. My nerves always go

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doing this sort of thing. For The Love Of Dogs is on the 4th of

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September. Tomorrow night, back to school. We have got David Walliams

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and Catherine Tate. There they are, behind Mo Farah. We will see you

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then. Thank you again. Have a lovely night. And we will see you tomorrow.

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Good luck in the Great North Run! Go away if you don't want me

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to speak to you like that! Most schools exclude

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disruptive pupils... And I ain't putting up

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with this any more.

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