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Hello and welcome to the One Show with Angellica Bell...

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To introduce tonight's guest we thought we'd ask one

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Someone who really knows their onions.

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I'm Andreas. For 20 years I've looked after this very, very special

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lady. It's fair to say she's the ever green this greengrocers.

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APPLAUSE. How did that happen? We have our

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ways. You give him a massive thank you in your book. He's not just your

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greengrocer, is he What else is he? We heard he was your removal van -

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not van, man! Well... Well, he has helped me. He bigged up his part.

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No, he was great. He is great. His fruit and veg is great. He loves

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what he does. Does he pick out the best fruits and vegetables for you?

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I think he does that for all his customers. That's why people go

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there. I talk about I go to the fish monger. I feel when I cook, apart

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from anything else, I kind of drive them mad on the phone. I'm always

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phoning up with questions. When is this coming in? When can I get that.

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I feel that they contribute enormously. Community as well. Yeah.

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A lot of people help in different ways. I like it that these are

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people who love food and who love what they do. They spend their lives

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getting up at the crack of down so that they've got great food to sell

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and share. I'm sure you would have been on the phone loads. Have you a

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book and a grand new series. Which we will talk about in a moment.

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With the help of the dinner ladies of

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Bradford's Foxhill Primary School who will be setting Nigella a

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challenge based on her famously exotic descriptions of her food.

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It's been suggested in a recent report that people of a

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certain age might be over indulging when it comes to the evening tipple

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The difficulty is persuading the drinkers that they should be

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Problem drinking. Not normally something you would associate with

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older people. According to the latest research, retired couples are

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overdoing it. Many of them couldn't care less. At our age, we don't give

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a (BLEEP) about it. We are spending a week filming with three couples.

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We will be following Nora and Doni thechl have ant an active social

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life. Steve and Catherine like to keep their home well stocked. This

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is my man's fridge. They are keeping a diary of of their drooinging. -

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drinky. Frank and Anne have pulled the short straw. We have challenged

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them to quit booze for seven-long days. A week? We could manage a

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week. We will keep an eye on them all. Researchers looked at

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information provided by GPs and came to the conclusion that one in five

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of the over 65s was drinking an unsafe amount of alcohol. The advice

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is for women to drink no more than two to three units per day. One

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medium glass of wine. Three to four units for men. A pint-and-a-half of

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beer. Some doctors say older people should drink no more than

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one-and-a-half units a day because of the greater risk of high blood

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pressure, strokes and cancer. Let's check on our pensioners. Norah and

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Donny admit they drink every day. That's our measure of wine. But they

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do water it down. A drop of tonic. That way we can have more drinks.

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He got knocked out of Strictly, didn't he? Do you know why? No. Had

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showed his tattoos. Oh, come off it! Meanwhile, in the dry household.

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Frank and Anne have cut down on drinking this year as part of a diet

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and health kick. -- Annie. What shall we do now? For Catherine and

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Steve it is wine and beer tonight. Oh, and a couple of glasses of port.

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Maybe just another one. Halfway through their challenge, how are

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Frank and Annie coping with their booze ban. This is their fourth day.

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They have succumbed to temptation. I have to find out? First, a quick

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snoop in their bins. What the hell? ! Hang on! Time to confront Frank

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with the evidence. Now, look, I found this in your bin. What does it

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mean? It means drinking, doesn't it? That was the last supper, John, on

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Saturday night. We had a whole bottle between us. Since then, not a

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drop. You promise me? That's the truth. They still have a few more

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days to stay dry, but the results are in for Steve and Catherine. In

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one week they drank, nine bottles of wine. Eight pints of beer and some

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port and brandy. That's 115 units between them. About three times the

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couples recommended limit. Putting them squarely in health risk

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territory. Catherine and Steve have gone off to Spain. We can't confront

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them with this evidence. Oh, but we can. I'm going to call them on this.

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Right, look, you drank three times over the official recommended

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amount. You're looking pretty good. What do you think about that advice?

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At the moment, with our drinking we believe we're responsible in that we

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can get up every morning, without a hangover. We can go out walking. We

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can have a good I love begin time. Guinness in. Guinness is good for

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you. The point about Steve and Catherine, it's very difficult to

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tell people to stop if they feel all right. They do feel healthy. They

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feel socialable. They like drinking. They can't see an immediate reason

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for them to stop. That's what makes it so difficult. We've been filming

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Nora and Donny for a week. Now we can check on how they've got on. Our

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camera spotted them drinking three bottles of 11% wine each. Nudging

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Donny over his limit. Norah is approaching double hers. At my age,

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why worry. Why You feel it's worry. Like bicycling down hill. Your'

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doing OK? Is Yeah. At 84, why not. I'm pleased to say Frank and Annie

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did manage to stay off the booze for a whole week. They plan to continue

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drinking less, especially at home. Fortunately, I have iron

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self-control. All this talk of booze, I fancy a small one, just a

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tiny one. Tiny, tiny, tiny one. Cheers. We scraped John off that

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bench, brought him here this evening. Help's OK now. Nice to see

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you, John. Very nice to be here. What are your habits of the evening,

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do you like a tipple or abstain? I don't think of it Assab staining,

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I'm not much of a drinker. I've never been someone who opens a glass

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of wine at the end of the day or has a drink. I'm not very good at. It

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I'm more of an eater than a drinker. It doesn't, I have to say, if I'm at

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home it doesn't occur to me to have a drink. If I'm on my own. I prefer

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food. Frank and Annie abstained? They have done extremely well. There

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have been problems. On the first day after they had given up for a week,

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birthday party. Daughter's birthday. All right? But, I have to report,

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only a glass of white wine each, they say. They good. Now, tonight

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Annie's birthday. OK. It's tricky. They are watching this. They know

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what I'm going to say! Right. Hold back. They said white wine, I said

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OK. It's not just older people who should watch their consumption it

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should be across the board, shouldn't it? It's a case of

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self-regulating before the GP steps in and takes your stash? All the

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people said if they had been told by the GP, you go on drinking you will

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have really serious problems, then they would give up. They don't say

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that. The GPs don't say that. Do you think that's the truth? In a way

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people often are told things are bad for them and they don't give up? If

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a GP says you have a week to live or a few months. One of my friends was

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told, a few more months of this and you're in real trouble. He stopped.

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Did he? Yeah. Thank you so much. We could talk about it all night.

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Moderation in all things is the key. If we've ruined

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your plans to quench your thirst this evening we're sorry, but we do

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have something that's guaranteed to get your mouth watering -

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Nigella's back with a new series. I roast them on a tin with a wire

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rack so the excess fat drips down. Still, it's that fat that gives them

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all the flavour. That lip-smacking stickiness. I'm going to dig in, I'm

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afraid. These are so good. I feel I'm entitled. You are!

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APPLAUSE It's lovely to see you back on the television. Thank you. The

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new book and the new series is called Simply Nigella. That is

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right. How simply are the recipes in this book? If we take this vegan

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chocolate cake, for example. It has a surprise at the end. That's very

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simple. It's a question of stirring things in a bowl, you know, with a

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wooden spoon and putting it in a cake tin. A book for everybody this

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one? You have some. If I bake I don't want to eat the cake. I don't

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want to eat what I cook. That looks very nice. Yes, my recipes are

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simple because I have no great expertise or gifts. I. I'm a home

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cook. I'm not even someone who does fancy food often. Food doesn't have

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to be fancy to be good. No, it doesn't. Simple food is the best

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food. This is fantastic. Good. I had to do this because... In The Tenant

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of Wildfell Hall I have a few, I'm not gluten-free or dairy-free when I

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have people for super there is a big contingent of gluon or dairy-free

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people. I might make cakes they would like to eat. This was in fact

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because a friend of mine, he is a vegan came over. I wanted to d a

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vegan feast for him. I've been making this for family birthdays or

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when I need an occasion cake because it's easy and you can - I often put

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it in a foil thing and take it to people's houses. It's easy. It isn't

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because - I like the fact that things don't have to stay defined.

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It's a vegan cake. You don't have to be vegan to eat it. It's gorgeous. I

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don't know how it works, it works. It does work. It' lovely. You say

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your cook books are a snapshot of your life. In your introduction you

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say it's about playfulness and the other word was hopefulness. Is that

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what this book is about for you It's about taking stock. It shares

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something with my first book. Reflecting on why I take please sure

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on food. Why I think it's important in life. Why I think cooking is as

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important as the eating. It's not enough to be able to cook something

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that people say - that's delicious. You have to feel good when you make

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it and help you decompress. Life is quite frenetic. You don't want

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something that will add to the stress in the kitchen. It's really

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about enjoying the moment. I feel that cooking is my form of

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meditation. You have to be there doing it. The challenge is not so

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great that I feel stressed, but nevertheless I've got to keep an eye

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on it and be focused on it so it works. I feel that, for me, is my

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way of being in the moment. We are pleased you are here, even for this

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chocolate cake, it's nice. Everybody there wants a slice. Calm down you

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will get some later. YES! When it came to food,

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the author George Orwell was an easy dinner party guest with

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his view that, in his words, "a human being is primarily a bag

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for putting food into." His personal life was altogether

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more complex though, Today, I'm going in search of the

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will of one of Britain's most important writers. His name was Eric

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Arthur Blair. He is better known as George Orwell. Is it Orwell achieved

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world renowned with a host of classic, including 1984. He died

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from tuberculosis in 1950 at the age of 46. He wrote this will just three

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days before his death. His estate was worth around ?10,000, which is

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almost ?800,000 in today's money. He leaves most of his possessions and

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the could copy rights to his literary works to his wife Sonia.

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That's not particularly surprising. What is perhaps surprising is that

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he only married Sonia a few months earlier. In this part of the world

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he makes provisions for his son, Richard Blair to pay for his

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education. Orwell had been unable to have children of his own hechl and

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his first wife had adopted Richard when he was just a baby.

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Now a 21, and taking Richard home to his childhood home in the Hebrides.

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My father and his wife had indicated for some time that they would like

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to have a child, and I became his adopted son. But then, tragedy

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struck. Orwell's wife Eileen died of a heart attack. Richard was just ten

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months old. He said, what are you going to do? How are you going to

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look after this small child? Apparently, he said, I will keep

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this child. He is my son. To spend time with his new son far away from

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public life, Orwell rented a farmhouse on the Scottish island of

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Jura. We would go down to the shore. He had a little boat, and we would

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go fishing. His nephews and nieces used to come up every summer and

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stay, so the house was always full of sound and laughter and general

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merriment. But life on Jura was an old play. After a few years on the

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island, Orwell's health was failing, and he was under pressure

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to deliver what would be his last novel, 1984. This was where he sat

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at his desk, looking out of the window, typing his final novel. It

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didn't do his health and the good. Eventually, in 1949, he had to leave

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the island. Having finished the manuscript, he realised he was very

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ill. Orwell was treated at university College Hospital in

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London, and there, at his bedside, to everyone's surprise, he got

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married again to an old friend, Sonia Brown. Richard remained on

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Jura. We heard about his death. It was announced on the eight o'clock

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news on the 21st of January on the BBC home service, as it was in those

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days. The death is announced of the author George Orwell. Richard was

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only five when his father died, and Orwell left nearly everything to his

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new wife, rather than his son. She tried to fulfil his wish is to the

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best of her ability, but she very much wanted to keep me at arms

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length. So a bit of a strange relationship? Yes, it was.

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Unfortunately, in the mid-70s, she became ill. And she just didn't want

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me to be involved in anyway. But when Sonia died in 1980, she did the

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right thing. The literary estate came to me in its sole right. So all

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the copyright for those books came back? Everything comes back to me.

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Coming back is something special. This is my spiritual home. Can you

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feel the presence of your father? I guess I probably do. The ghost of my

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father is up there in the top left-hand window.

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I didn't realise he died so young, 46.

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Now, Nigella, you are known for the fantastic descriptions you give to

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food. It got us thinking. Could you remember the dish you were referring

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to from the words alone? I don't know. I have a feeling I might not.

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Carry on, try me. Here to help us, we have

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the dinner ladies of What are the most popular dishes

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at Foxhill? A roast dinner, hot pudding and

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sausage and mash. Lovely winter food. So Nigella, if you get two or

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more right, you can take away this apricots cake. Recognise it? I do,

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it looks beautiful. It is from your cookbook. Angellica made it. She is

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a whiz in the kitchen. Beckie, can we have the first description? Am I

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going to be embarrassed? Look at those gorgeous golden globules. I

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must have been digging out some chicken stock. I seem to remember it

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was fat and chicken. Think marmalade? Marmalade? Is it my

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marmalade pudding cake? Let's see. Look at these gorgeous golden

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globules. It was the marmalade pudding cake, made into a trifle. So

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half a point. But the thing is, I am not scripted when I do my TV

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programmes, so those are a long time ago. Let's go to Lisa. I am being

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beautiful and defensive here! The top will be set, just, but

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underneath will be a hint of an inner thigh wimple. The best

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description ever. That must be a cheesecake. Let's have a look. The

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top will be set, just, but underneath will be a hint of inner

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thigh wibble. And lastly, we have Natasha. Squadge them down a bit,

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mmm, they are yielding to my touch now. To me, I am just speaking!

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Squadge them down a bit... Unfortunately, we would go into

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EastEnders if we carried on. Let's have a look at what it is. Squadge

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them down a bit, mmm, they are yielding to my touch now. Tiramisu!

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A big thank you to our dinner ladies. You can take the cake. I

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will take a slice now, if I may. The dinner ladies deserve a slice as

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well. Nigella is of course known for mouthwatering deserts, but it is

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hard -- Halloween this weekend, so we will be hosting The Great British

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Scary Bake Off. And we want you to bake your scariest cakes. The once

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selected can appear on Friday's show and be judged by Paul himself. I

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will be Mary Berry. This made me laugh earlier! Slightly strange. So

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send pictures of your spooky sponges, gory gateaux or petrifying

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pumpkin pies to the usual address. These two photographs were taken

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100 years apart in the same place by We'll be talking to one of those

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photographers, whose family archive inspired the 2015 Poppy

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Appeal, after Ruth has followed the paper trail of another family

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business. Once this sludge has finished

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slurping around, it will be transformed into something that 40

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million of us wear with pride. It is wood pulp, and this is an old family

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business. Very old. It is run in Kendal in the Lake District by the

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great great-great-grandson of the founder. That is six generations.

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It's a paper mill. It was 1845 when the family bought it. Before then,

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each sheet of paper was made by hand. That slowly changed, and

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machines took over. Today, they say they roll out enough paper each year

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to wrap around the world several times. We have been here for 170

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years, the Jewish and five monarchs and 55 prime ministers. -- the

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duration of five monarchs. Has it been an easy ride? Anything but

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easy. The mill here is burnt down twice. We have had two world wars,

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unrelenting competition. But there is one thing that we have been

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making every year for all of my life, and I hope for many decades to

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come. So what is it? I'm heading towards the factory laboratory to

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help to create secret ingredients that turn that sludge into this.

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That is the colour I am going to add. There are lots of different

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chemicals and dies to make sure that the colour doesn't bleed. The last

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thing you want is if you have the colour here, you don't want to see

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that colour transferring onto your clothing. So it has to hold its

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colour when it is dry, but also even if it pours with rain and you are

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soaked outside. Goodness me. Just in those seconds, something that can

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hold. Even though it is wet, nothing. I am back from the lab with

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a dye. In it goes. They have made the paper exclusively since the

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1970s, but they make no profit, for a reason. We are incredibly proud

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that we are helping, in a small way, the country remember what went on so

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long ago. It's also personal for me. My great-grandfather fought in

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the war, and he, like many others, had an awful time. It was dreadful.

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He is writing from the Western front with his view of it. "The trees are

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half blown away, and there isn't a sign of a living thing. It's an

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absolute streak of hell, 400 miles of it running right across". It

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really affected him. Obviously, the war did come to an end and there

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were celebrations of that here, but he was never the same. It affected

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him for the rest of his life. The mill is busy making the poppy

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paper. The liquid is being dried, pressed and rolled, and by the end,

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the pulp has become a product that will raise a fortune. Once finished,

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the great rolls of paper are brought here to be cut into thin strips for

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the poppies. 55 miles of them. Then it comes here to the British Legion

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factory in Kent. The work goes on through the year, and it's hoped the

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poppies will raise about ?14 million.

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Tom, these images behind us are cropping

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up on billboards across the country as part of the 2015 Poppy Appeal,

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but your involvement in the campaign was completely by chance, wasn't it?

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It was complete coincidence. The British Legion were looking for an

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old studio to take pictures to link together modern and old servicemen,

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and we have a Victorian studio that we still use, using the same

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techniques when necessary. We have an archive going back to 1850, so we

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could find First World War soldiers, bring in the modern soldiers, put

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them in front of the same background, and away we went. And we

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have these wonderful pairs of images. And you used the same

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techniques as your grandfather. For this, I did. The 100-year-old camera

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stood up to it, as did the 100-year-old background. So when you

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found the camera, were you confident that you could get it working? No.

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But to be honest, there is little to go wrong. It is fragile, but like

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any camera, it is a box with a lens at the front and a film at the

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back. It created some fantastic images. How much did you know about

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the soldiers and sailors who had come into your grandfather's studio?

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Very little. In our ledgers, we have a 1 line entry, which is a number, a

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date and a name. We think they are private portraits that families

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commissioned before their sons went off to war. Well, we put the

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photographs up on Facebook this afternoon, and we were contacted by

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the niece of this fella. He is called Private Arthur Vernon Mott,

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and she e-mailed to say he survived the war and went on to have two

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children, including Barbara, who is now 89.

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Thanks, Nigella. Her recipe book, Simply Nigella, is

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out now, and the new series starts next Monday on BBC Two at 8.30pm.

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The chocolate cake is to die for! It is lovely to be back on The One

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Show. Tomorrow, we'll both be talking

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Cuffs with Amanda Abbington and Ashley Waters, and films with

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Simon Mayo and Mark Kermode.

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