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Hello and welcome to your Easter Monday One Show with Alex Jones. And

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as Matt is busy lambing on the farm all week, I'm joined by the Warrior

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himself Chris Hollins. APPLAUSE

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Thank you. How has your Easter been? Very good potty training. Hit it

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hard, four days intense training. Exactly. It's not great. I hope our

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guest has had a better Easter than me, he's a good all round egg and

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just happens to be Britain's leading musical star.

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# Love will never ever be the same... #

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Well, how is that for a Bank Holiday belter? Doesn't get much better!

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Please welcome Michael Ball! Hi, God to see you. Hi. How are you?

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Very well. How are you? Interested to hear how your potty training is

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going. It's more the wife than me but he's going great guns. I wish I

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was! Can't believe we are talking about this. Aspects of love there.

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30 years ago nearly. You can't tell. A lot of work! That high note at the

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end, the B-flat, quite something but it was your idea wasn't it? It was

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originally. I did a series of concerts before the show opened with

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Sarah Brightman and Andrew Lloyd Webber decided we were going to

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presue two songs from Aspects as kind of finales for the show. --

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preview. Love Changes Everything used to end "love will never be the

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same" and I thought, don't you think we ought to have a showy finish -

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not like me at all! And he said, can you get it because I don't read

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music, I don't know what my range was, I didn't at the time. I belted

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out this note little realising I was going to have to do it twice in a

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show, eight shows a week when they put it in. But it worked. It worked.

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Yes, yes. It's the money note, you know, the

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money note! This Easter weekend's been hit by

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winds, rain and snow in some areas but we know our viewers are not the

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kind of people to stop the weather from them having fun. Of course. If

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you have a photo of your family braving the elements, send them into

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the usual address and we'll show some later. As Michael is here to

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talk about the Olivier Awards, we'll have a performance from the

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nominated show later, the cast of Bugsy Malone. My favourite. Easter

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is the most important date in the Christian calendar and this weekend

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millions of people will have come together to celebrate their faith.

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Can faith alone explain the seemingly miraculous recovery of a

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wheelchair-bound man. Dr Sarah Jarvis has re-opened the case book

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on the story of Jack Traynor. When it comes to miracles, it's easy

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to be cynical. But for millions of pilgrims, to holy shrines like

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Lourdes, they're proof of divine intervention. So should miracles be

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taken seriously? I may be a Christian, as well as a doctor, but

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I do not believe in miracles. Here in Liverpool, many people are

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certain this man, Jack Traynor, was cured by God. We know for certain

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that Jack was gravely injured during World War I and given a full war

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pension because of his paralysed arm and severe epilepsy. By 1923, he was

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confined to a wheelchair but travelled to Lourdes in a party of

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Catholic pilgrims. Michael Langham organises trips there today and this

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is his understanding of what happened next. When the blessed

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procession took place, his arm, which the nerves had been severed

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and he'd had operationles to try and rejoin these nerves in his arm,

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began thrashing about. They took him to the hospital. The following

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morning he leapt from the bed and ran, in his night garments to the

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grotto and net in prayer and, from even when I was a child, people were

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told about the Jack Traynor story and we believe that it's a miracle.

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Jack went on to run a successful business as a Coleman. His

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grandchildren, Gary and Jackie, have no doubts.

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What do you think happened to Jack that day in Lourdes? I think he was

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very fortunate that he was a chosen person to be cured and I believe he

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was cured of his illness and that is my given belief. And we are here, we

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are here as living proof. For a case to be officially

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recognised as a miracle by the Catholic Church, it needs to be

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assessed by the international recognition of Lourdes using

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scientific methods. Michael Moran has agreed to review the case file.

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But are all doctors as ultra--sceptical as me?

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Do you really believe in miracles? I have to say, I do. I have seen

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evidence to back up cures through my work in international medical

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committee and have met three people who've been noted as having

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miraculous cures, so I've seen the person after the cure. I see the

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placebo effect of people getting better because they want to. Surely

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that is it? You can't explain this with the placebo effect. Only 69

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cases have passed all the tests to be classified as miraculous cures.

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Jack's grandchildren have never seen the report published on their

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grandfather or heard the conclusions. You have been to

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Lourdes a few weeks ago and looked through Jack's case in detail, what

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did you find? The first important thing is the report is there, lots

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of things about your grandfather and here is a summary of the case which

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is laid out by the doctor at the time. A lot of detail there. How he

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was deemed incurable and then a summary for a year later saying this

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is a powerful man who is fit and well and a note from a GP in

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Liverpool to say that he knew him and that he did have epilepsy and

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now he doesn't. So he's a powerful man, the picture of health? Yes. To

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me, it's pretty convincing. Yes. Without a shadow of a doubt. I

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accept the circumstances of Jack's recovery are extraordinary. But in

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the end, the medical committee gave two good reasons why this case

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should not be considered a miracle. We think part of it might have been

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due to the delay between his first official examination which may then

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have said that we can say for definite it happened at that time.

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If we were looking at the medical details, potentially it could have

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been that he still had a small amount of right arm weakness after

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the cure, albeit he was obviously very functional

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the cure, albeit he was obviously coal. The man who left for

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the cure, albeit he was obviously in a wheelchair returned to applause

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here at lime in a wheelchair returned to applause

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The bar for in a wheelchair returned to applause

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high. In all my years as a doctor, I've

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high. In all my years as a doctor, without a cause I can understand.

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high. In all my years as a doctor, Dr Sarah

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high. In all my years as a doctor, clear in the film that you don't

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believe in miracles but there is no clear in the film that you don't

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is extraordinary. How flummoxed are you? Completely. All doctors would

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be. Nerves are similarly not supposed to put themselves back

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together and certainly not overnight. Medical miracles happen

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sometimes and for inexplicable medical reasons, people recover.

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Especially we hear in terms of cancer? Cancer is a really odd one.

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It's still incredibly rare and I wouldn't want to give people hope.

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Probably about four cases a month in medical literature are people who've

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had spontaneous remission, a cancer which should have been going in One

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Direction, and we know which direction that is unless they have

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treatment, but suddenly overnight completely disappeared. Classic,

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beautiful case, a chap called John Pattison who 40 years ago was

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diagnosed with Hodgekin's disease, he was told it was terminal, he had

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treatment, kept relapsing, he said, that's it, I'm taking myself off to

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make the most of it, he came back from abroad, two months later,

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doctors examined him and said "it's gone! " Extraordinary. I suppose in

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terms of medical research you get excited? We'd love to be able to

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investigate what caused it, we'd like to bottle it, we want some of

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what they've got. Those cases are rare but there is something more

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tangible now. This immuno-therapy is a big step forward in terms of

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cancer isn't it? Yes, and it may be connected to the spontaneous

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remissions because we think what is possibly happening there in some

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cases might be people's immune system fighting it off. This is

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designer immune system. So we know we all produce antibodies, you have

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a cold, you fight it off. These are mono-clonal antibodies designed

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specially to attack the proteins on the cancer, so they can be used to

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treat the cancer or we can make them attack the cancer itself. We can use

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viruses now which we are modifying, to get them to attack the cancer.

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Marvellous. Moving on now to your area of expertise, the theatre!

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OK. Oh, that one. Thank goodness, yes.

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The mouse trap is the longest running show, it started back in

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1952? Yes. Do you know the shortest running show in the West End? In the

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West End. No, I know on Broadway there was a show called I think

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Glory Days that closed at the interval!

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LAUGHTER You knew that Michael Ball was going

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to be... I think I have a sneaky idea but I won't give it away. You

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have ruined it anyway so don't worry.

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It's had an opening night and a memorable closing performance. They

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were both on the same day, sadly. Yes.

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Every year, theatre shows in the West End make more than half a

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billion pounds. But for individual productions, it can go horribly

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wrong. This is the story of a West End

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production that became the shortest running show in modern West End

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history opening and closing within 24 hours. It's Friday morning and

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welcome to Radio 1... When Radio 1 DJ Mike Reed came up with the idea

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of writing and composing agriculture an all singing all dancing tribute

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to the life of Oscar Wilde, it was always going to be a tough sell.

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We'll have a jingle. Mike Reed, just what I always wanted...

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Oh! Most West End musicals look for at least a couple of million as a

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start-up fund and employ a big team behind-the-scenes.

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Not Mike. It was Reed's decision to produce direct and fund the entire

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show by himself and that turned out to be the real problem. The first

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duty of the theatre producer is to secure the right venue. Mike chose

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The Shaw, his first big error, the Shaw promised to launch Oscar as the

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centrepiece of an expensive lawn. . -- launch. . That, according to Mike

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Reed, didn't happen. We were spending on re-establishing it

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because it was basically a conference centre, it wasn't on the

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map, taxi drivers didn't know where it was, they weren't online without

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an e-mail address. Without the support, Oscar's box office presales

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were disastrous with just five paying customers in total.

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Traditionally, it's advance ticket sales that fund a show's start-up

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costs. Without these, no-one even knew Oscar the Musical was on. As

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the curtain rose on press night, Mike knew he needed good reviews to

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help drum up box office business. But then another disaster hit. The

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sound was all over the place and there were real problems. I spent

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most of that night walking the streets. I knew that we were really

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up against it. Jittery, waiting to see what the papers said. I knew it

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wasn't going to be good. And he was right, a theatre critic remembers

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what he saw. It wasn't a very successful first night. In fact it

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was a disaster and, I looked at my review and I was slightly shocked

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and embarrassed by it because you don't want to be too nasty but this

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is what I said for what it's worth; "what would Oscar Wilde say if he

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was condemned no watch the musical of his 150th birthday, something

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about his hair going grey from gratitude or he might be too busy

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chewing his green carnation in dismay... ". Not very nice. That was

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Jon rows compared with some. This was much more than an artistic

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failure. With no third party investors, terrible presales and a

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disastrous product launch, Oscar the musical faced an immediate cash

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problem. The dilemma was simple, to stem the financial bleeding by

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injecting more of his own money or cut and run.

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Reid chose the latter, closing the show after an unprecedented one

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night. Why couldn't you have gone on?

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I didn't have the money other major West End producer. I couldn't afford

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to carry on so I had to make a quick decision as to whether to carry on

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or cut and run them, and that was the decision. I said I can't get

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deeper and deeper in here so I took the decision to pull it. Some

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reports put the figure Mike lost close to ?80,000, a drop in the

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ocean for the big boys may be but a future loss for one man. In this

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world, the world of show business, there is the show and the business.

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Business is the difficult end of it. There you are producing this thing,

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didn't work, and you have never done it again. I never wanted to be a

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producer, learned a lesson, wouldn't do it again. But again, you can look

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back for what it's worth and say you are in good company of people down

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the decades who have gone swaps, shouldn't have done that. The great

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Oscar couldn't have put it better himself.

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He cannot knock him for his bravery. I have got to ask, I know this

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audience will say you have never been in a stinker of a production,

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but have you? I have been in a show that has been rubbish. I shouldn't

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say... Kismet. Oh, here we are. I wish I could tell the stories, I

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can't, but it was ill-conceived to start with. We shouldn't have been

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doing it because it is set in Baghdad and we were at war at the

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time so that's not the greatest of starts. And it is very

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old-fashioned, beautiful music and I was told we were going to rewrite

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the book and the writer was still alive and he wouldn't let us. It was

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terrible but the good thing that came of it was but also in the cast

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was a young opera singer called Alfie Boe. We became great mates and

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I persuaded Cameron Mackintosh to come and see the show because I said

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you will never see anything worse in your life and he loves a bad show,

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loves having a laugh. I introduced him to Alfie and that's where the

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whole Les Miserables came from. We are here to talk about Sunday night,

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you are hosting Olivier Awards, and here are some of the musical

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nominations this year. And do you see how we have the

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actual award. You have done it, you have the actual award. Have you felt

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it? I want it back! Is what will your personal highlight this year? I

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think Imelda Staunton's performance, she's a great mate but I'm not

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biased, her performance in Gypsy was one of the most brilliant

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performances I have ever seen in the theatre. It is an extraordinary

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show, one of the most challenging shows, and she was incredible. I

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loved Kinky Boots. I haven't seen Bend It Like Beckham yet, I'm going

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to see it next week. The theatre is really thriving and it is an open

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field, the awards. Some years you can say this will win, that will

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win. And it is not just musical is of course. I'm looking at some of

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the biggest names, Nicole Kidman, Benedict Cumberbatch, Dame Judi

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Dench. Dame Judi is always up for one. I know, it's boring! And Mark

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Rylance getting an Oscar, could he do the double? It would be nice,

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Rylance getting an Oscar, could he wouldn't it? I heard it

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It's interesting, the big stars you name

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It's interesting, the big stars you Cooper came over to do Elephant Man,

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It's interesting, the big stars you they love doing

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It's interesting, the big stars you and performing live. They will make

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their money that is where the real training is.

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And that is where the real training is.

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out of you doing performances on the night? Yes, I will be part of two

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performances. Part of a special tribute to the 40 years because it

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is the 40th anniversary of the Olivier Awards, and getting a lot of

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previous winners back to perform there, and also a little personal

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dream of mine because one of the writers of Kinky Boots is Cyndi

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Lauper and she has asked me to sing with her. I didn't even have to push

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her! And we want to say congratulations because we know you

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are taking over from the late Terry Wogan on Sunday mornings on Radio 2.

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We are really pleased for you, that is a really nice slot. Good luck

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with that and good luck with the awards and we will have a special

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performance from one of the related shows, Bugsy Malone, at the end of

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the show. The leading lady in our next film is

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used to standing centrestage day after day and you could say hers is

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a very middle-of-the-road performance. As she gets -- unless

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she gets more funding, the could be coming down on her

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performances. Here is could be coming down on her

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Lollipop lady Marie could be coming down on her

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mission, not just to make sure hundreds of kids get across this

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busy road safely, she's also one hundreds of kids get across this

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marketing mission to her job. Because crossing patrols across the

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country are at risk as council budgets are squeezed. We are a

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national institution really. We budgets are squeezed. We are a

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like fish and chips, red buses... Here in London, it costs the council

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?165,000 per year to have Here in London, it costs the council

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25 crossings, but while the Crossing guards are waiting to hear if they

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will have the chop, parents say guards are waiting to hear if they

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service is priceless. How much do they pay them compared to the life

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of one child, you know? Marie says councils should be thinking outside

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the box. I think councils should be looking towards private sponsorship

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from companies, we can advertise their logos on our uniforms and a

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small amount of the budget could be going towards making a difference in

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the community. Do you think this could catch on nationally? I hope

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so, I would like it to be standard across the UK. The idea has already

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caught on in Cambridge, and whilst Marie has had no takers so far from

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the businesses she has approached, she won't give up. It's not about

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our jobs, it is about road safety and children crossing the road.

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Local parents think the crossing patrols provide a vital service.

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This particular crossing, there has been a few accidents with kids

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getting run over. I don't know how we can manage crossing this road.

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You see at all the time if she's not there, so many kids run out and it's

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not safe at all without her there. Bath was home to Britain's first

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lollipop lady, Betty Hunt, in 1937. Modern road safety groups advising

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councils say the need for crossing patrols now is as great if not

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greater than it was in those early days. Deputy leader of the council

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is Dominic, he's also won the finance team so what's he planning?

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We haven't got rid of them, they are still there. We are consulting,

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looking at new ways of funding lollipop ladies which is why we are

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looking at our community, at our voluntary sector, and hopefully we

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can be successful in following Marie in terms of getting sponsorship

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which would be ideal. I have come to Hornchurch now to join Marie on her

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quest to get sponsorship from local business. Set up by their dad Jim

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over 40 years ago, this local building firm is run by brother and

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sister Jamie and Lauren. I know you are Mormon, how important is it to

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you that dangerous patrols are patrolled by a man or a woman? --

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you are a mum. Very important. We have a lollipop lady always on

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patrol, she is always bright and upbeat and children look forward to

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seeing them. We need them. I have been given permission by the council

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to see if I can find either national or local businesses, people who are

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interested in sponsoring our service. That is something we would

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be very interested in. Lollipop people are valuable asset to the

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community and we would be happy to help you in your quest for

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sponsorship. It is a result for Marie as the building firm agreed to

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sponsor her for at least a year at around ?6,000.

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Marie, how are you feeling? Brilliant, really excited. What a

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lovely family and a lovely family business. I would be very proud to

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wear their logo on my uniform. It is a positive result. Far from

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being barking mad, it seems Maria's idea has legs and we will be keeping

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barking and Dagenham's children safe for the foreseeable future.

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Thank you. Some pictures now view braving the elements over the Easter

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weekend. Look at the umbrellas blowing out.

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And thanks to Michael. Before we go, here is the cast of Bugsy Malone

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singing one of my favourites. You can see Bugsy Malone

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at the Lyric in Hammersmith in London from June

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and tickets are available now. # Anybody who is anybody

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# Will soon walk through that door # At Fat's Grand Slam speakeasy

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# Always able to find you a table # There's room for just one more

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# At Fat Sam's Grand Slam speakeasy # Once you get here

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# Feel the good cheer # Like they say in the poem

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# Fat Sam's ain't humble # Plans are made here

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# Games are played here # I could write me a book

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# Each night astounds you # Rumours are a-buzzing

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# Stories by the dozen # Look around you cousin

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# At the news we're making here # Anybody who is anybody

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# Will soon walk through that door # Anybody who is anybody

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# Will soon walk through that door ..stay sharp.

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You have a very young heart. There's something wrong with your

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test.

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