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Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker.

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Tonight we've discovered more rare film archive, this time of

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Martin Luther King speaking to students in Newcastle in 1967.

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And sitting down next to us are two actors who are both great friends.

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It's Simon Callow and Christopher Biggins!

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APPLAUSE What a night it's going to be!

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What a night Good to see you. How are you? Very

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good. Settle down, settle down. Good to see you. How are you? Very

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exciting! We have got two old friends on

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exciting! We have got two old seems? Yes, we are good friends.

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Yes, if this picture seems? Yes, we are good friends.

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go by. I'm on the right, no, the left. It was terrifying. That was at

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Richmond. A beautiful theatre and we did Aladdin. It was great. We had a

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scene in which... A very fetching outfit of air, Christopher. During

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the show, we were outrageous. Did you see my legs, by

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the show, we were outrageous. Did shapely. This must be a strange

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experience for you watching this because normally you are lying down

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watching this. I am. I love this show and every night, I'd lie on my

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bed and the news comes on at 6pm and I go straight into the one show

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bed and the news comes on at 6pm and after that, I go out. It's

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marvellous. A lovely restful Herriot, so it's a joyful evening.

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Do you close your eyes? Herriot, so it's a joyful evening.

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Occasionally. If you want to lie down, you can

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Occasionally. If you want to lie you with us.

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A third of people in the UK admit to being racially prejudiced according

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The Social Attitudes Survey found that the proportion had increased

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in recent years returning to levels of 30 years ago.

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Things were much worse in the 1960s though and it was

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against that backdrop that the most famous anti-racist campaigner of all

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In November 19 city seven, Doctor Martin Luther King travelled to

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Newcastle to receive an honorary degree. I need not pause to say how

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very delighted I am to be here today. Exhausted after 12 years

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campaigning for equal rights for black Americans, he delivered a

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speech that left his audience spellbound. This is the first time

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it's been shown on national television. You give me renewed

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courage and figure. Why would this giant of the American Society go to

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such great lengths to receive an honorary degree from the north-east

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of England? And what effect did his speech have on his audience? The

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answers lie here at Newcastle University. We need to express our

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deep and genuine appreciation to the University of Newcastle. This is

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where the degree ceremony took place. It's very quite humbling to

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know I'm standing exactly where Martin Luther King once was. It may

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be true that the law can not change the heart, but it can restrain the

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heartless. Professor Brian Ward has been searching the Civil Rights

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movement for more than 20 years that researching. How did this honorary

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degree come about? Newcastle look to him as someone whose work on racial

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justice and equality is of great value, inspirational, and so I think

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there's a genuine desire to actually bring him over here to recognise the

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work he had done as a social activist. You are honouring me

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today. In this meaningful way, it is of inestimable value. He was

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exhausted, struggling to work out what the next move should be,

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strategically, and to be fated by a city which says you're doing great

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work, go back and carry on, was of disproportion value for him at the

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time. The university events for him to have tea with a group of

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students. You didn't take eyes off him from moment. He was a

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fascinating man. I do remember him asking me what wielded and I did

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dentistry, and he was very understanding and sympathetic and

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didn't make any comments. He was lovely for thugs he said, that's a

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useful profession, and then he gave you eye contact and listen to what

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you said. It may be true that morality cannot be legislated but

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behaviour can be regulated. I took away the fact that I thought there

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was hope for the police said you don't have to like me, but the law

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means you can't do anything against me. And there can be no separate

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white path to power and fulfilment short of social disaster. That

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speech didn't just referred to the USA but was also a warning to the

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people of Britain that ghettos could USA but was also a warning to the

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spring up here through economic and social dissemination. So that is a

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challenge and a great one. Newcastle MPs was a child when he visited.

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He's been the guiding spirit for most of her life. It's amazing to

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think Martin Luther King came thousands of miles here to make that

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speech, which still has such great resonance for us today. In the 60s,

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you know, I had name-calling, windows were broken, dog muck was

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smeared on them. There was racism. But values were what Newcastle tried

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to honour Martin Luther King with. It must be defeated. We are not

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there yet but I think we are It must be defeated. We are not

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there yet but I think we a lot closer today. I can assure you that

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this day will remain dear to me as long as the chords of memory shall

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lengthen. Less than five months after visiting Newcastle, Doctor

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Martin Luther King was shot by a sniper in Memphis. His assassination

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sent shock waves around the world. Here in Britain, with a year if his

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death, Parliament passed a new race relations act. Speed up the day

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when, all over the world, justice will roll down like water and

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righteousness, like a mighty stream. Thank you.

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APPLAUSE And for more of that story you

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can watch A King's Speech: Martin Luther King in Newcastle

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on BBC One in the North East In the last 11 years of his life he

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travelled over 6 million miles and did 2500 speeches.

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Oona King, one of Britain's first black MPs,

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A significant piece of footage. You're no relation to Martin Luther

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King. It's extraordinary. You said how many speeches he gave. What you

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have to remember, those words changed the course of history. And

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they didn't just change it for black people but for white people as well.

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And he spoke to all decent people. That was the point full survey

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brought people together for thugs just before he was shot, he said the

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perennial ally of racism is economic exploitation. And I think you see

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that today. That's why UKIP appeals for the people of the economic elite

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insecure and that's when you are more likely to be prejudiced. We

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heard on the way into that film, because of this recent survey, one

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third of the UK admitted to being racially prejudiced. What do you

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think that's about society today? Obviously, it's very, very worrying

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but actually, call me an optimist, I think it's a good thing that people

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are honest about the way they feel. There's so much... Everyone has

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prejudiced. There's so much unconscious bias, people are too

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scared to talk about it was one of the attractions of someone like

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Nigel Farage, because he will say things that mainstream party leaders

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will not say and that's one of the challenges for mainstream parties.

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He said he doesn't want racism in his party. He says that but,

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personally, I think his answers on every main issue are wrong. But I

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think he is right to express people's concern over things which

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have changed for the I live in East End of London and their people like

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me and immigrants, people who look like me, are there and the white

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population, basically they have moved out. Those are white people

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like my grandmother and grandfather. They are not racist. It's hard for

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them to deal with that change. You can't just sweep it under the

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carpet, which is why you need some practical policies to deal with it,

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which is what Labour has been looking at. I don't want the party

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but will broadcast but you have to manage diversity. The day after the

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election results were announced, we went back to the north-east, which

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now has its first UKIP MEP to find out what the attraction of the party

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was. We did actually vote UKIP. I don't know... I might get lynched

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here. I can understand why people would vote for UKIP and I think,

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they come over as people take our jobs and things like that. People of

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God, we are seeing more people not British. People in the region, this

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area, which is why people voted for that. People are frustrated with the

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other party so I think they might be looking towards UKIP as an

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alternative suggestion. I voted last time and I will vote next year and,

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by God, they will get in, I hope they do. We need a change in

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Britain. We should mention that was Sunderland, new. Newcastle. -- not

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Newcastle. I think they need to do things we have done in our party,

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which is to deal with the facts people have their wages and a cat.

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When you have got economic migrants illegally here, being exploited,

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that is the first thing which goes. Then other people here, British

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people can have their wages undercut. You have to look at how

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public services are delivered. There are specific proposals on health,

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education, public services. You have got to proactively manage diversity

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instead of not talking about it because some areas of the country it

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affect it a lot and some, it doesn't force in London, where most people

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from different backgrounds living together, you have the least amount

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of prejudice. And often, the highest amount of prejudice in areas where

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there are no so-called immigrants. Thanks. We will have to leave it

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there. I live in Hackney, so I know this is true. We have a great

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community therefore the bits marvellous for them so many

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different races, it's fantastic. That's what makes it interesting,

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doesn't it? It makes it interesting to live there, wonderful. There are

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parts of the UK where you can go all week and not see a face of another

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colour. Very true. That's where ignorant and confusion sets in.

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We're going to move on to the education system now.

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Since the Education Secretary introduced fines for taking children

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Being a mother to four children, the government to court.

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Being a mother to four children, education is high on my list of

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priorities. However, being together as a family is probably even higher.

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The trouble is, you go away during the school holidays and it's very

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expensive. Last September, changing the law meant headteachers

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expensive. Last September, changing right to grant up to ten days

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holiday per year to their pupils. right to grant up to ten days

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children out of school. I know it disturbs their education but I do

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think the system is not fair. I do get annoyed, one day never misses

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school and the first time ever, in two years, I ask, they said no so

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was very disappointed. Parents now face a fine of ?60 per pupil if they

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take their children on holiday during term time. If they don't pay,

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they could face a ?2500 fine and three months in prison. But will

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this stop them? Last year, we three months in prison. But will

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on holiday and we knew we were going to be fined. A massive learning

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experience for them. I would pay the ?60 fine. The year before last, it

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was ?8,000 for a week for six of us. The cost of a car to go in peak

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paying extra money for holidays for them to me, their education is more

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important. I feel, even if I take one day off, it's a massive impact

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because of what I would miss. Karen is campaigning for a U-turn in this

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lawful is she wants to see a return to the ten days previously allowed.

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As parents, you know that education is about emotional intelligence,

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about how they see the world, about experiencing different cultures and

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not just an academic attainment. It's not just what access to cheap

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holidays for the Karen think the rules now penalised parents for

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taking the children out of school in special circumstances. We have had

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reports of people who've been fined for taking their children out of

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school when people have been dying, family weddings. Parents are very

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angry. Tony Draper is President of the National Association Of Head

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Teachers. The law changes, children should be in school, learning every

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day, and if parents withdraw them from school they are denying them

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the right to education. That lost time can never be made. How far are

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you prepared to take this? We have tried talking to the Department for

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Education and tend to get the same response. We intend to take this

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through to judicial review under human rights legislation. It looks

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as though this change is actually unlawful.

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The Department for Education told us that holidays should not be taken at

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the expense of a child's education and the most recent figures show

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that 130,000 fewer pupils are regularly missing school.

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Simon, where do you stand? You think young children should be introduced

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to Shakespeare and all sorts at a young age? Absolutely. We all know

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what it is to be a child, to be learning something, slowly picking

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it up, to have pressure from your peer group to keep pace in class. If

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you are taken out for three weeks, you have lost that time, completely.

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How do you make it up? What is revision for that? You could learn

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from the holiday, if they went somewhere... You know. Also, you

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could make your child do extra work on holiday. Does that happen? I

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don't know, it could happen. There is a lot of pressure on people,

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nowadays, the main holidays are so expensive. It is win-lose for

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parents. It may depend on their age and what crucial stage they are in

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their education. It's not clear cut, in my mind. Let's move on to

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Porridge. You are celebrating 40 years. The show still attracts

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really high praise from people like Sir David Attenborough, David

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Walliams, Eric idle. Why do you think the show is remembered so

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fondly? First, you have to say that the writers were very, very

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important writers. Writers of such quality. Then you have to say,

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Ronnie Barker. I always say he was a comedy actor, he wasn't a comedian.

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I know you will appreciate this, because comedians are so selfish,

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they take everything and you never see the whole picture. Ronnie saw

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the whole thing. If he felt one of his lines was better served by

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someone else, he would give it to them. His generosity of spirit, and

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it is something I learned when I worked with him, it was fantastic.

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None of us knew, 40 years ago, 1974, we would still be here talking about

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it. Thankfully, Gold had this wonderful documentary, on tonight,

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after our show. Shall we look at some classic moments? Prisoners one,

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system zero. He might be a rock star, on a drugs bust. No, he was

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short, bold and flat-footed. Could have been Elton John! I want you to

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fill one of those for me. From here!? Sometimes I wish I was in

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here with you lot. Care for a glass of toilet? Did you have any trouble

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when he got out? No, I always go straight. Straight back into crime.

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Fantastic. Simon, you were laughing and enjoying that. But actually you

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have never seen a full episode? I've never seen Porridge. Is the

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friendship over? There's a good reason, you didn't have a television

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for long enough? That's true. I worked with Richard Beckinsale, just

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fabulous. It's absolutely true, about his acting. He really was an

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actor. He played Churchill's Butler, didn't he? Fabulous actor. I believe

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the best actors are comics. They have an owner in sense of how you

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time lines, how you get the information across. They really know

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it is all rooted in character. But he was something else. It was very

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sad to see Richard Beckinsale, who undoubtedly would be a huge

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international star today. His talent was extraordinary. He died of a

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heart attack? He had an enlarged heart and keeled over and died, such

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a shock to everybody. One of the most moving part of it was talking

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to Kate, his daughter. Let's have a look.

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Good evening, sir. What will it be? The usual. Care for a drink first? A

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large one, so? Mind your own business! They love going home and

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being proud of the fact that he managed to become this delivered

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figure in a really short time. That's from me. And this is from

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myself. That's from me. And this is from

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they nice? I will have That's from me. And this is from

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other one when I get my bandage off. They are mittens! Let's talk about

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your character, you played Lukewarm? I was the iro.

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I did a doctor at sea before, I was an outrageous queen, really can.

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They said, you can't do that, nobody is like that. I can tell you there

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are lots of people like that. When we did this, the brilliant

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are lots of people like that. When and producer of Porridge, he said,

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let's do something different. The only thing I did that was a vaguely

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camp was knitting. I knitted all the way through it. But it was wonderful

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to be involved. Ronnie Barker gave the regulars of the first series a

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silver tankard. Our names, initials. I got Lukewarm, Slade prison, 1974.

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My initial is P. So it's Lukewarm P! The documentary is on at 8pm tonight

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on Gold. The online trading unlicensed and

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fake medicines is worth billions of pounds worldwide and helps fund

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organised crime in the UK. This month has seen one of the biggest

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crackdowns ever on internet drug dealers. Dan Donnelly has been in

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the thick of it in Hertfordshire. Millions of dangerous and unlicensed

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drugs are sold illegally over the internet every year. It's a

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multi-billion pound criminal enterprise that has serious

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consequences for the victims. It's something Helen knows only too well,

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desperate to lose weight she bought slimming pills that contained a

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banned drug linked to heart attacks, seizures and even death. I have

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horrendous pain in my chest. I felt like I couldn't breathe. Within five

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minutes, my health deteriorated. My friend drove me to A and I was put

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into resuscitation. I friend drove me to A and I was put

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what sort of affects this tablet would have. The dealers that are

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selling illegally online, they must be shut down. Slimming pills are

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just one of a huge number of controlled drugs smuggled in through

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the post. Danny Lee Frost is an investigator for the regulatory

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the post. Danny Lee Frost is an agency. What have we found? This is

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the tip of the iceberg. This one contains an active ingredient

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withdrawn from the market in 2010 because of the risk of heart attacks

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and strokes. A banned drug, but still found in slimming pills sold

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online. There are more parcels of unlicensed drugs, all of which are

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online. There are more parcels of seized and tested. Danny and his

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team need to get to the people behind this sort of criminal

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activity. That means working with the police on an undercover sting

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operation. We've made five the police on an undercover sting

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purchases from this chap. We've bought over ?7,000 worth of

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products. Demand they are investigating has been selling

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addictive ascription only antidepressants and sleeping pills.

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Shockingly, the seller works on the inside of the legitimate drugs

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industry and has access to huge amounts of controlled Edison. Who is

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this guy? The subject of the investigation today is a licensed

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wholesaler. What he is not licensed to do is to sell to any member of

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the public controlled drugs in pub car parks. After the undercover to

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has left the scene, I go in with my camera. Two men are arrested and

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taken away by the police. In the boot of the car, boxes and boxes of

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pills. What seems like a batch of prescription drugs. Quite a big

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batch. The deal was being carried out on the roadside. Thousands of

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pounds worth of drugs, stored in crisp boxes and sold out of the back

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of two cars. He's got cancer drugs, controlled sleeping drugs. I know

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expert, but this is not a proper pharmacy? This is not a proper

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pharmacy. None of this should be available to the general public

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unless it is through disruption. And yet it is being supplied to a member

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of the public from the back of a car. Code-named Operation Pangea,

:25:19.:25:23.

today's arrests are part of a week-long international operation to

:25:24.:25:25.

stop the criminals that sell these drugs. At the storeroom, Danny shows

:25:26.:25:31.

me the scale of what is going on. There is a reason that prescription

:25:32.:25:35.

drugs are wrong prescription. That reason being dashed on conscription.

:25:36.:25:40.

That reason being that there is a risk with every medicine you take.

:25:41.:25:45.

You don't know what is in there. Deal to much consequence of taking

:25:46.:25:48.

medicines without a health care professional involved is death.

:25:49.:25:54.

Another mission is to shut down as many dodgy websites as possible.

:25:55.:25:59.

This one leads the team to an address in Northamptonshire. Danny

:26:00.:26:03.

is hoping to close down yet another illegal online pharmacy. Once

:26:04.:26:07.

inside, it becomes clear this is more than just a family home. There

:26:08.:26:12.

are enough controlled and banned drugs here for a major supply

:26:13.:26:16.

operation. The police take the couple at the address away for

:26:17.:26:21.

questioning. Excellent results. We have seized the product that is

:26:22.:26:27.

there. We've uncovered more offences we were not aware of. We have shut

:26:28.:26:33.

this internet pharmacy down. As the week goes on, there are more raids

:26:34.:26:37.

and more arrests. By the time Operation Pangea is over, more than

:26:38.:26:43.

?8.5 million worth of lethal medicines have been taken out of

:26:44.:26:45.

circulation. A huge result. 8.5 million! I know. Extraordinary.

:26:46.:27:00.

Nice to see you, with a bowl of tricks? Yes. Quite a lot of these

:27:01.:27:05.

represent things I have have had patients come in and see me about.

:27:06.:27:08.

They are usually really shamefaced about the fact they have bought

:27:09.:27:12.

drugs from the internet. We have got some here. These are slimming

:27:13.:27:15.

tablets that used to be available, but they were taken of the market

:27:16.:27:18.

because they were dangerous. People can buy them online. The most

:27:19.:27:23.

popular ones people bought online, once for the bedroom. This one is a

:27:24.:27:30.

jelly sweet version. The bedroom? Oh, yes...

:27:31.:27:37.

They come and they admit that they are getting is online? What reasons

:27:38.:27:44.

are they giving you for going there? People who have taken slimming

:27:45.:27:47.

tablets, it is usually because they have not been prescribed by the GP

:27:48.:27:50.

for a very good reason. There is one slimming tablet available, but it

:27:51.:27:55.

doesn't work on its own, you have to do it in conjunction. People want a

:27:56.:27:59.

quick fix. The other one, people are embarrassed. The third most common,

:28:00.:28:03.

people were taking tranquillisers and sleeping tablets. There are very

:28:04.:28:07.

good reasons for not prescribing those, because they are unbelievably

:28:08.:28:11.

addicted. A woman who came in with the slimming tablet, she came in

:28:12.:28:14.

shaking, it turns out that the tablets contained amphetamine. They

:28:15.:28:21.

were basically speed tablets. That's what they give you, isn't it? Not

:28:22.:28:28.

any more, Peter! If it was OK to take them, the GP would prescribe

:28:29.:28:33.

them. Some which were not routinely available on the NHS, your GP would

:28:34.:28:37.

give you a private description. People find it easier, I suppose. A

:28:38.:28:42.

lot of them go online, they self diagnose. You can get the bedtime

:28:43.:28:54.

once for the doctor. Sleeping pills? No, the other one. Self diagnosing,

:28:55.:29:01.

Wikipedia, 90% of those Wikipedia entries on health issues, there is

:29:02.:29:07.

at least one mistake? Host of the mistakes they are not absolutely

:29:08.:29:10.

huge, but some of the websites out there are completely unpoliced. You

:29:11.:29:14.

can say anything you want. I actively encourage people to go and

:29:15.:29:18.

look online, but I send them to really reputable websites. NHS

:29:19.:29:25.

Choices, written by GPs and their patients. If you know what you have

:29:26.:29:30.

got, it's really important. You are dealing with the condition. I want

:29:31.:29:33.

people to know more about their condition. What we don't want is

:29:34.:29:38.

self diagnosis. Read about it afterwards, maybe? Not all online

:29:39.:29:42.

pharmacies are illegal? No, if you go to one that is registered, it has

:29:43.:29:47.

the green cross you see on prescriptions, it is registered by

:29:48.:29:51.

the General Pharmaceutical Council. It gives you a physical address. If

:29:52.:29:56.

they offer to give you medicine without finding out about medical

:29:57.:29:59.

history, don't touch them with a barge pole. If they give you

:30:00.:30:02.

perception drugs without a prescription, they are not the real

:30:03.:30:03.

thing. Now they are tiny, get stuck down

:30:04.:30:09.

the back of the sofa and are agony Statistically there's

:30:10.:30:13.

a good chance there's a bucket And, as Ruth Goodman explains,

:30:14.:30:19.

it could have been a UK company It's one of the world 's most

:30:20.:30:35.

recognisable toys. And the foundation of ?1 billion business

:30:36.:30:39.

empire taking toys, theme parks and films. It's one of Denmark's

:30:40.:30:44.

best-known products, as Danish as bacon. Or is it? In the 1940s the

:30:45.:30:49.

ball they came along, a British toy company was selling an almost

:30:50.:30:53.

identical brick for the company was called Kiddie craft. If it had not

:30:54.:30:57.

been for a missed opportunity, children today could have been

:30:58.:31:01.

flocking to Kiddie craft land or going to the Kiddie craft movie. The

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Lego brick is the foundation of a global business empire whilst the

:31:07.:31:11.

Kiddie craft owner ended up forgotten so what happened? Amanda

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Berry child psychologist to studies what makes a good tight and bases a

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lot of her methods on pages pioneering approach to try making.

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He was so far ahead of the curve, watching children, watching them

:31:26.:31:28.

play, and making toys which appealed to kids. He developed toys inside

:31:29.:31:35.

toys. You can see examples of his work everywhere. His hours studying

:31:36.:31:40.

children dead end to develop educational toys in newly developed

:31:41.:31:46.

plastic, more safe and hygienic for children than the old painted and

:31:47.:31:50.

wooden toys. He tested his new designs on his own twin daughters.

:31:51.:31:56.

65 years on, Geraldine is seeing some of their fathers toys for the

:31:57.:32:00.

first time in decades. Every developer much: He would let us play

:32:01.:32:06.

with it. We were like guinea pigs. We played for hours with the bricks.

:32:07.:32:10.

The self locking brick was introduced to the world in 1947, one

:32:11.:32:15.

of his products. He went off to design advertise but if he didn't

:32:16.:32:20.

see the potential, someone else did. Lego wanted to move into plastics

:32:21.:32:23.

and seized an opportunity when a British company wants to sell them

:32:24.:32:28.

and injection moulding machine. The manufacturers, included a sample of

:32:29.:32:36.

his bricks. Two years after their brick hit the market, the automatic

:32:37.:32:39.

binding brick was unveiled. Jim Osborne is aimed his -- owned his

:32:40.:32:44.

toy shop since the 1950s and have a collection of vintage toys including

:32:45.:32:49.

Kiddie craft bricks. This really does look like Lego, doesn't it? Oh,

:32:50.:32:54.

yes, it is the spitting image. I think you will find the Lego will

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click onto the Kiddie craft one. So, actually, almost compatible, yes.

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Kiddie craft was on the market from the late 40s but of course, it was

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never as popular. Lego took it off and took the market by storm. Lego,

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in their own corporate video, admit they were inspired by page's type

:33:18.:33:23.

and eventually paid ?45,000 for rights to the brick and took the

:33:24.:33:28.

design and developed it. In 1950, they added tubes to help the bricks

:33:29.:33:34.

connected better. A huge success. It was introduced at the Brighton toy

:33:35.:33:38.

fair in 1960. And you have been selling at every since? Oh, yes.

:33:39.:33:42.

It's the biggest name in the toy trade now. Hillary Page developed

:33:43.:33:48.

other toys that were successful in their own right. But he never found

:33:49.:33:52.

out just how big his little brick would become. In 1957, before Lego

:33:53.:33:58.

came to Britain, he took his own life as a result of unrelated

:33:59.:34:04.

business pressures. He had developed it and marketed it and went on to

:34:05.:34:07.

other things. As the Kiddie craft bricks were not major part of his

:34:08.:34:14.

range, he took his eye off the ball. Lego, to be fair, have produced an

:34:15.:34:20.

incredible toy. Who knows what would've happened in the future.

:34:21.:34:24.

Have no idea. Lego was universally loved and is made a huge empire out

:34:25.:34:31.

of the humble brick but for a twist of fate, that empire could have been

:34:32.:34:37.

British. And Hillary Page's name lauded all over the world as the

:34:38.:34:45.

inventor of the most popular toy. I used to spend most of my mornings

:34:46.:34:50.

doing exactly that. Simon, we love it when you're in a new drama.

:34:51.:34:55.

There's a new one starting, Space Age. What are you doing up there?

:34:56.:35:03.

I'm up there with Richard Wilson. I don't believe it! We play two

:35:04.:35:12.

elderly astronauts. We're not actually astronauts at all but

:35:13.:35:15.

volunteers. We are so old, there is nothing more to do with our lives so

:35:16.:35:20.

we would like to do one last good thing. So we volunteered to man the

:35:21.:35:25.

spaceship and go to an alien planet where we will start civilising,

:35:26.:35:29.

making it possible for life, human life. So it's a very sad film in

:35:30.:35:36.

some ways, in theory, but there are exciting plot developments I'm not

:35:37.:35:44.

at liberty to disclose. It was a wonderful experience. It's a

:35:45.:35:48.

brilliant script written by Ralf Little and Nick Moran, two actors.

:35:49.:35:56.

They wrote this thing and it sat wonderfully with us. The writing is

:35:57.:36:02.

fantastic. We shot it in Poland. Why? Because there was a studio

:36:03.:36:10.

there built by a crazy Polish person with too much money, and he's in

:36:11.:36:13.

love of science fiction and he built the whole studio like a spaceship.

:36:14.:36:18.

The canteen, the corridor, it's like a spaceship, so we took the whole

:36:19.:36:21.

thing over and shot in the canteen over there and really looks rather

:36:22.:36:28.

better than 2001, if you ask me. Your space of a very impressive so

:36:29.:36:32.

let's have a look at it. Observation, please. Bloody hell!

:36:33.:36:42.

This is the closest we get to a windscreen. Where are we? Let's have

:36:43.:36:49.

a look, shall we? Navigation, please. That is where we started.

:36:50.:36:56.

That is where we are now. And that's where we are going. Home sweet home.

:36:57.:37:03.

Not long now. APPLAUSE

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You said it sits very comfortably on the end of your time and, my word,

:37:12.:37:15.

are you a big fan of science fiction?

:37:16.:37:22.

No. Not at all. I know nothing about science fiction so it is rather

:37:23.:37:28.

exciting for me. Whole New World full Richard Wilson is very, sort of

:37:29.:37:33.

Patrick Stewart, isn't it? Don't you think? Is it just the two of you in

:37:34.:37:45.

it? Well... Well, yes. My hands are tied. You and Richard have been

:37:46.:37:52.

friends since the 1980s. What trouble did you get up to in Poland?

:37:53.:37:58.

Trouble? It is a very tight ship, only one week we were there, and it

:37:59.:38:07.

was -12 degrees. Fun is hard at -12 degrees, but we did manage to

:38:08.:38:12.

stagger into a few excellent Polish eateries. Vodka is the antidote to

:38:13.:38:15.

that. It's like filling up your carburettor with it. We had a

:38:16.:38:21.

delightful time, vodka and work, that was it. Richard said he was

:38:22.:38:26.

slightly concerned, as he gets older, of remembering lines. I don't

:38:27.:38:32.

know how you feel about this. Worrying about Richard not

:38:33.:38:36.

remembering? Richard has a fantastic memory. He really is a wonderful

:38:37.:38:43.

superb technician. I mean, you know, it's just a question of time. Every

:38:44.:38:48.

actor has some sort of technique for remembering lines. We couldn't

:38:49.:38:51.

survive without it a question of time. Every actor has some sort of

:38:52.:38:53.

technique for remembering lines. We couldn't survive without it for them

:38:54.:38:56.

you just have to give yourself time to do it properly. Is that what you

:38:57.:38:59.

do, Christopher? I hate learning lines. If it awful, boring thing.

:39:00.:39:04.

Early on, if you a good script, it was easy, I Claudius, because it

:39:05.:39:11.

sort of comes naturally. But sometimes, things are really tough

:39:12.:39:17.

and as you get older, tougher. Of course, in film very often, you

:39:18.:39:21.

don't really rehearse but in the theatre, you rehearse for three

:39:22.:39:26.

weeks. It's embedded in you then. It's the hardest, most important

:39:27.:39:32.

thing for an actor, if you lose your memory you're in big trouble. I

:39:33.:39:35.

don't know why nowadays wouldn't have little openings other side of

:39:36.:39:42.

your brain and put a microchip in. And when you go to France, you speak

:39:43.:39:47.

French Brindley. Or you can put your lines, the Tempest. -- French

:39:48.:39:49.

Brindley. -- brilliantly. Space Age is on Sky Arts 1 on June

:39:50.:39:57.

5th at 9pm. Now, the weather this half-term

:39:58.:40:03.

has been a bit of a wash out. So if you're looking to entartain

:40:04.:40:06.

the kids indoors, Phil has just

:40:07.:40:09.

the thing to inspire you all. The story

:40:10.:40:12.

of an art master who did some of his best work with only scissors

:40:13.:40:15.

and coloured pieces of paper. Matisse is one of the founding

:40:16.:40:26.

fathers of modern art. A master of colour, his bold vivid paintings

:40:27.:40:30.

span over half a century. But in 1941, at the age of 71, at the

:40:31.:40:35.

height of his fame, the French artist was diagnosed with cancer and

:40:36.:40:40.

was unable to paint for that looked like his career and his life were

:40:41.:40:48.

over but he didn't give up. We can and often confined to a wheelchair,

:40:49.:40:52.

he came up with a revolutionary technique -- week. He did this with

:40:53.:40:56.

just a pair of scissors and some paper. He swapped his paintbrush for

:40:57.:41:02.

scissors and created new works with strips of painted paper called

:41:03.:41:07.

cutouts. Now the largest ever exhibition of cutouts is on display

:41:08.:41:10.

at the Tate modern and it's on track to become one of its most popular

:41:11.:41:16.

exhibitions of all time. We had exclusive behind-the-scenes access

:41:17.:41:20.

before the opening. Some of these are the last cutouts ready for

:41:21.:41:23.

installation for that now, these works are absolutely priceless. So

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it's no wonder that this part of the process is run with military

:41:28.:41:33.

precision. The exhibition has been five years in the planning and this

:41:34.:41:38.

man is one of the curators. The scale of it, it's huge. How did a

:41:39.:41:45.

frail man, an old man, do this? He had some help. He had assistants

:41:46.:41:52.

working with him. They would paint under his very strict supervision,

:41:53.:41:58.

very large sheets of paper. Was the bedridden, in a wheelchair? A bit of

:41:59.:42:04.

both. He came up with this system, a little

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bedridden, in a wheelchair? A bit of both. He came up with kind of desk

:42:07.:42:08.

bed made so he could work from his bed. His 1952 cutouts are arguably

:42:09.:42:15.

some of the most famous and popular works of modern Art in the world.

:42:16.:42:21.

Each piece is carefully unpacked I team of art handlers before the

:42:22.:42:23.

curators decide where each piece should hang. It's a bit like buying

:42:24.:42:29.

a painting and getting at home and sticking it up on the front wall.

:42:30.:42:32.

You have a sit down, think where it goes on the principles are the same

:42:33.:42:35.

except these are modern masterpieces. They look very sort of

:42:36.:42:41.

simplistic and familiar. Why were they so radical at that time? What

:42:42.:42:46.

makes them so important as he made lots of paintings in the 1920s, 30s,

:42:47.:42:51.

but here he is working from memory. What we see is not a specific woman,

:42:52.:42:57.

but a very radical sympathy case in female form. And he's doing all of

:42:58.:43:03.

this summer just cutting into paper. One of the final cutouts was the

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snail, part of the permanent collection at the Tate, which is

:43:09.:43:12.

being restored especially for this exhibition. This is a very famous

:43:13.:43:18.

piece, the snail. You can recognise its snow the spiralling forms. You

:43:19.:43:23.

can see the marks where it has been cut. It's full of life and colour.

:43:24.:43:28.

It's amazing this was the last bit of work he did before he died. Yes,

:43:29.:43:33.

it's quite incredible when you think that this was made one year before

:43:34.:43:37.

his death. And, you know, it's like a burst of joy, colours, everything.

:43:38.:43:44.

It almost feels like everything up to now has exploded. It opened up

:43:45.:43:50.

new Explorer eateries in art but he was dismissed by the critics. In the

:43:51.:43:53.

1950s they were too radical for the art world. Mitty is made making

:43:54.:43:59.

masterpieces look easy but is it? The one shows that the great British

:44:00.:44:03.

public challenge and let's see how they got on -- Matisse. The

:44:04.:44:09.

inspiration makes you think you can do it too but actually, it's not

:44:10.:44:15.

very easy. People believe drawing and painting as art but cutouts are

:44:16.:44:21.

also included in that. If you're getting sick of scissors, just start

:44:22.:44:32.

ripping it up. Matisse said of his cutout years, only what I created

:44:33.:44:39.

after my illness represents my true self, free and liberated. In the

:44:40.:44:43.

face of death, he made art that was full of life. His inspiration to

:44:44.:44:46.

afraid to try something new. afraid to try something new.

:44:47.:44:50.

That's the point, I think, just have a go! It's good it brought all those

:44:51.:44:56.

people together. They had a great time. If you do like Matisse and you

:44:57.:45:01.

can't get to London, there are other ways to see it? There is Matisse

:45:02.:45:07.

lies, at a cinema near you. Tuesday the 17th of June, 7:15. You'll be

:45:08.:45:14.

shown around by the director of the Tate. There will be rare archive of

:45:15.:45:19.

Matisse, interviews with his friends and lots of other things going on.

:45:20.:45:23.

At last is about 90 minutes. If you can't get there, go to the cinema.

:45:24.:45:27.

You were just saying you would love to be an art dealer? I have been

:45:28.:45:32.

collecting art for 45 years. Wallpaper is not something we have

:45:33.:45:36.

in our house, we have paintings. I just can't stop. I've got too,

:45:37.:45:39.

because we don't have enough room. We were talking about not buying

:45:40.:45:43.

from galleries because they charge so much. Just buying from friends.

:45:44.:45:48.

You see something and think, oh, I'll have that. It's so joyous to

:45:49.:45:52.

look around our house and think of all of the things... Certain things

:45:53.:45:56.

bring back memories. Why we bought something, you know? It's wonderful,

:45:57.:46:02.

art is fantastic. Some sad heart News, last Friday there was a big

:46:03.:46:08.

fire in the Glasgow School of Art. Such a beautiful building. Terrible.

:46:09.:46:15.

Designed by Charles Macintosh, grade one listed. This is the library, the

:46:16.:46:21.

jewel in the crown of the building. On the upside, 90% of the exterior

:46:22.:46:26.

and 70% of the interior has been saved. Some of the priceless archive

:46:27.:46:30.

of material and furniture has been saved as well. The students did not

:46:31.:46:37.

come off too well. This is some of their stuff coming out. They have

:46:38.:46:40.

been given bursaries to carry on their work. An absolute tragedy. As

:46:41.:46:47.

many people pointed out, most art colleges are physically hideous.

:46:48.:46:50.

This is one of the most beautiful buildings in the world. Every single

:46:51.:46:55.

item was designed by Mackintosh himself. Every door knob, every book

:46:56.:47:01.

case, every shelf. The library is amazing. They are going to rebuild

:47:02.:47:09.

it. He gave such a wonderful ways of how... Everything, the plans are

:47:10.:47:12.

there. They will be able to recreate it. A lot of his work is around, if

:47:13.:47:22.

they are a bit stuck. Tragic. We are about to see the band James

:47:23.:47:26.

performed. While they warm up, there they are, here is John Sergeant,

:47:27.:47:31.

giving his own electric informants. -- performance.

:47:32.:47:37.

The wind in your face, the sun on your back. Cycling is great fun on

:47:38.:47:43.

the flat. The hills can be a problem. But not for me today. I'm

:47:44.:47:56.

not on a push bike, I'm on an e-bike. There's a motor in the front

:47:57.:48:09.

wheel that gives it a bit of oomph. It's catching on in Britain. All

:48:10.:48:16.

Stamford runs one of the largest e-bike distributors. It's like a

:48:17.:48:21.

bike, but it's not? As you pedal, the electric motor kicks in. When

:48:22.:48:27.

you stop, it stops. But not like a motorbike? No, it has to stop

:48:28.:48:33.

assisting you at 50 mph to comply with legislation that makes it a

:48:34.:48:37.

bike. When you drop below that, it will kick in to assist you. The

:48:38.:48:42.

e-bike revolution is being propelled mainly by the over 50s. These

:48:43.:48:46.

enthusiasts are really sold on the idea. E-bike, that stands for

:48:47.:48:54.

excitement? What is the advantage for you? And 77 and I've been able

:48:55.:48:58.

to continue cycling despite arthritic knees. I've got

:48:59.:49:06.

fibromyalgia. You run out of energy very quickly. If it happens when I'm

:49:07.:49:10.

on a walk, I can't get back. On a powered bike, I can. We have been

:49:11.:49:17.

here before. Sir Clive Sinclair has launched his latest creation, an

:49:18.:49:22.

electric bicycle. It's far more advanced than it appears. But it

:49:23.:49:26.

flopped. People didn't seem to like the small wheels or scooter like

:49:27.:49:31.

appearance. Only 2000 were sold after it launched in 1992. Now it is

:49:32.:49:38.

a collectors item. The new breed of e-bike has a better range, better

:49:39.:49:42.

batteries and, on some models, you can choose when to in gauge the

:49:43.:49:45.

motor by simply flicking a switch. To the casual observer, it looks

:49:46.:49:51.

like an ordinary bike. Could they catch on and revolutionise urban

:49:52.:49:57.

transport? Cycling expert Carlton Reid is a fan. If you want to go out

:49:58.:50:01.

with a strong partner, you can keep up with them. If you want to go to

:50:02.:50:05.

work and you don't want to get sweaty, well, you can hop on your

:50:06.:50:11.

e-bike. If you want to go up hills, get up on the hills, it's far better

:50:12.:50:18.

than on a standard bike. Let's put that to the test. These lads and

:50:19.:50:25.

lasses are members of cycling clubs. They do 80 miles without breaking a

:50:26.:50:32.

sweat. I'm not even a fair weather cyclist. They might have muscle

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power, but I've got a motor. This is a tricky slope. The Lycra lot are

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probably going easy on me. But sailing past them is still a bit of

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a thrill. You don't think it's cheating for me to be on this? Not

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at all. We got overtaken by someone on a e-bike, going up the hill, he

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sailed past as we were puffing and panting. He went, morning! We

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weren't bothered by it. I think it's great, if it gets people out cycling

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and people can get involved with that, I'm all for it. Evened the

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traditional cyclists, wherein the special gear, they think it is good.

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There is one catch. They are pricey. An average model sets you

:51:23.:51:28.

back about ?1000. The typical cyclist only spends around ?200 for

:51:29.:51:35.

a standard bike. You are talking a fair bit of wedge above the average

:51:36.:51:40.

price, that's a huge barrier to the sales in this country. Despite that,

:51:41.:51:44.

I must say, I'm impressed. The chance to ride in the fresh air

:51:45.:51:48.

without getting sweaty or out of rest, it might just make e-bikes a

:51:49.:51:54.

winner. My type of bike! A bit of help. When

:51:55.:51:59.

you are going up a hill, it's brilliant. Tim Booth from James is

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here! You came to talk to us just before

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you get out there. We were just saying, as he sat down, your band

:52:10.:52:13.

has been through an incredible amount. What were the biggest

:52:14.:52:17.

challenges you come up against? The biggest challenges? Ego is back, I

:52:18.:52:24.

think. Every band is like a dysfunctional family. We have had

:52:25.:52:30.

times when we have loved each other and hated each other. Luckily, we

:52:31.:52:34.

are in a place at the moment where we love each other. The fans are

:52:35.:52:40.

delighted. We've got the biggest turnout we have had for a while. For

:52:41.:52:48.

Simon and myself! They are getting very excited. You've got some very

:52:49.:52:52.

dedicated fans. How dedicated have they been over the years? Always

:52:53.:52:57.

amazing. You will find there are people here from South America just

:52:58.:53:01.

for this one concert, Canada, from across the world. We haven't played

:53:02.:53:07.

for a year. It's very touching. You were asking me earlier, there was a

:53:08.:53:11.

lady that run a psychiatric hospital in Cornwall. She said the favourite

:53:12.:53:18.

album of the inmates, the patients, was Laid. Their favourite song was

:53:19.:53:26.

Out To Get You. Another lady came across from America and brought the

:53:27.:53:33.

ashes of her daughter for us to take and scatter in different places.

:53:34.:53:37.

It's a very personal connection. I think that aspect comes from... My

:53:38.:53:42.

lyrics are quite as honourable. I'm not necessarily writing about how

:53:43.:53:45.

good I am in bed, which a lot of bands seem to be writing about. I'm

:53:46.:54:00.

usually writing about how crap I am. In terms of a live band, we change

:54:01.:54:05.

it every night. A thrilling live band, trumpets and violins. We

:54:06.:54:11.

change it every night. No gig is the same. You'll see us in Athens and

:54:12.:54:15.

Manchester and it will be a totally different concert. So many of the

:54:16.:54:19.

songs seem to strike a chord with everybody. We'll have a listen to

:54:20.:54:20.

your single, Moving On. # I'm on my way, soon be moving on

:54:21.:54:28.

my way # Leave a little light on, leave a

:54:29.:54:31.

little light on # I'm on my way, on my way, on my

:54:32.:54:39.

way, on my way Leave a light on, leave a

:54:40.:54:42.

little light on It's an incredibly emotional video.

:54:43.:54:57.

What was the story behind it? My mum died, and we have this great

:54:58.:55:03.

animator that we knew as a friend, called Ainsley Henderson. I

:55:04.:55:09.

basically talked to him about how I had gone back to LA, I got into my

:55:10.:55:17.

mum's hospital, she was 90, I got into bed with her and sang to her,

:55:18.:55:22.

and she died in my arms. It was beautiful. It was clearly a birth.

:55:23.:55:28.

Nobody tells you that. This song, Moving On, it's about the more

:55:29.:55:36.

positive aspects of dying. A friend died recently, she is in that song

:55:37.:55:40.

somewhere, and that was a more painful death. But this song is

:55:41.:55:44.

about losing somebody that you love. It's incredible, the best video we

:55:45.:55:49.

have made, he will win a BAFTA for this. I plugged this one, because I

:55:50.:55:56.

was blown away, I wept when I saw this video. So did two members of

:55:57.:56:01.

our office. Your fans are desperate for you to get out there, so off you

:56:02.:56:09.

go, to get ready. Now, we are having a festival theme this time next

:56:10.:56:13.

week. We want to hear your festival stories. Perhaps you have been going

:56:14.:56:18.

since the very beginning, perhaps you are organising your own

:56:19.:56:21.

festival. It doesn't have to be a music festival. Maybe you'd like to

:56:22.:56:25.

come and pitch a tent here, just for fun? Maybe not! Send us an e-mail at

:56:26.:56:32.

the usual address. Fans to Christopher. The documentary

:56:33.:56:35.

celebrating 40 years of Porridge continues tonight on Gold. Thanks to

:56:36.:56:40.

Simon as well. Space Age is on Sky Arts 1 on June the 5th. Tomorrow, we

:56:41.:56:45.

will be in North Wales, in Caernarfon, for the latest web of

:56:46.:56:48.

the Commonwealth Batten's journey, with Hank Marvin, can you believe?

:56:49.:56:53.

We have heard screaming fans, that must mean he is in position. We will

:56:54.:57:00.

see you tomorrow. Now, playing Sit Down, let's hear it for James.

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# I'll sing myself to sleep A song from the darkest hour

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# Secrets I can't keep Inside of the day

:57:14.:57:21.

# Swing from high to deep Extremes of sweet and sour

:57:22.:57:28.

# Hope that God exists I hope, I pray

:57:29.:57:37.

# Drawn by the undertow My life is out of control

:57:38.:57:45.

# I believe this wave will bear my weight, so let it flow

:57:46.:57:50.

# Oh, sit down Oh, sit down

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# Oh, sit down Sit down next to me

:57:54.:57:59.

# Sit down, down, down, down, down In sympathy

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# Those who feel the breath of sadness

:58:23.:58:24.

# Those who find they're touched by madness

:58:25.:58:30.

# Those who find themselves ridiculous

:58:31.:58:37.

# In love, in fear, in hate, in tears

:58:38.:58:57.

Hello, I'm Ellie Crisell with your 90 second update.

:58:58.:59:12.

More pressure for Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg. Lord Oakeshott has

:59:13.:59:15.

resigned from the party, claiming it's heading for disaster. He'd

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