27/05/2014 The One Show

Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker. And Alex Jones.

Tonight we have a television first, the inside story on how we helped

track down the only known moving footage of one of our greatest ever

poets. And the hunt is on for one of our greatest ever lyricist is

because Tim Rice is opposed to be on the sofa and we are on our own! He

looks like a punctual chap but we know that he is moments away. It is

a shame that he did not get the big welcome. We will give it to him when

he comes. We will ask everybody to give him that welcome because his

work is not just performed in the West End. There have been loads of

amateur versions of his shows up and for years. If you have ever appeared

in and am dram production of something like Joseph, The Lion

King, Jesus Christ Superstar, then in a picture to the usual address

and if he makes it, and only if! We will show some. I can't... He is

around somewhere. Hello, Tim! Good evening. We will put a film on and

let you get settled. Make it then her -- Ben Hur! Good stuff! We all

know that drinking alcohol can be damaging for the liver but what

damage are we doing and would you be brave enough to find out given the

chance? With deaths from liver disease on the rise, Dr Mark Porter

has been to Nottingham. What state is your live in? Not the sort of

question you would ponder on the way to work unless you have a hangover

but now is a good time to be asking. Liver disease is the fifth biggest

killer in the UK and the only one of the top five on the increase. One of

the problems is that symptoms may only appear when damage has already

been done. A cross-party group of MPs is calling for a strategy to

raise awareness. The Department of Health is saying they are taking

comprehends of action to tackle the issue. We are asking commuters in

Nottingham the chance to have their livers scanned using the machine

that shows up scarring and fibrosis, if they are brave enough to

volunteer, that is. It is a disease of our times, alcohol and obesity

the key causes. Do you look after your liver? Do you drink? Eat well?

Three nights a week you get tipsy or drug? Doctor Stephen ride is a liver

specialist at the Nottingham hospitals. Does it hurt? Not really.

For the majority of people there are no symptoms until they get something

serious. How bad can it be for somebody who does not know they have

an underlying problem? It can get pretty bad. I can see people back

from their blood tests I can tell they have serious liver disease who

still feel well. Steve had a drink problem for many years and it was

not until he sought help that a liver scan showed the extent of the

damage. If you had not seen the scan, you would not have known you

had liver trouble? Definitely not. How did you feel when they told you?

In shock. My mother was devastated. She came with me when we got the

results and she broke down in tears. She thought she was going to lose

her son. Steve has now been in recovery for over to years and

although his liver will never totally repair itself, it is now

functioning normally. Could you explain what the indications are for

Steve's live in going forward now that he has some disease? -- liver.

The future should be very good. Even people with cirrhosis, which just

means bad scarring, the liver has a tremendous ability to recover. Now

that I have made these changes, how might my liver look now? It might

get a little bit better. There is that scarring that probably will not

go away but actually it does not really matter so much so long as

there is no further damage. Back at the pop-up clinic, each volunteer is

having their livers scanned to ensure an accurate reading. We have

ten scans taken by a machine to check fat content and scarring.

Peter is next on the couch, a 59-year-old retired local Government

worker who admits that his weight is an issue. What effect does it have

on his liver? I don't drink or smoke but chocolate is my downfall. We are

introducing this wave through your liver. From the speed that it moves

through, we can work out how stiff it is. Peter's reading, the Orange

figure, it should really be below eight. You are sort of borderline

between healthy and not so healthy. Just on the edge. Partly related to

the weight and the diabetes. The reading indicates there is increased

stiffness in his liver which could be the onset of some scarring. Peter

has been advised to see his GP to see what steps you can take to

protect his liver server does not run into trouble in the future. Next

up is this 19-year-old law student. On the surface, a healthy looking

young man but what does the liver scan revealed? 34.3 is pretty good?

Yes, no, which is great. -- 4.3. The blue number should be 250 or below

and it is the fact scored in the liver. There is probably some back

in the liver. We think of it being in the skin but it can be deposited

in the liver as well. People tend to put on a couple of pounds around the

middle and that puts more fat in the liver. He does not have to worry now

but losing some weight would help the health of his liver in the

future. That was interesting. I would have expected at least one

surprise. There were a couple of borderline readings and a couple

with too much fat in the liver, but most people were helping. That might

be because travellers here at Nottingham railway station are

healthy or that might be because people have an inkling that

something is wrong with their liver and then they do not want to be

scanned. The doctor is here now. Good on them for being brave and

getting tested but the picture in Nottingham was quite good but not

representative of the picture around the UK. Liver disease is a big

problem and bucking the trend and becoming more of a problem. Heart

disease has halved since the early 90s and liver disease has doubled.

That is because we are drinking more, we are heavier than we used to

be, which is bad for the liver, and because of viral hepatitis as well.

If anybody is worried, how easy is it to get a scam? The kit there,

that is really only used by specialist unit and not offered by a

GP. They would do a blood test. That does not pick up everything. If you

are worried because you drink too much, you are too heavy, you are at

risk of hepatitis, then you should act on it anyway because the blood

test can be falsely reassuring. If you are drinking too much, cut back.

There is no strategy for this disease even though it is one of the

biggest killers. We had a strategy for kidneys and that helped. Doctors

are outraged that there is not one planned that I am aware of in the UK

at the moment. Thank you. If you would like further information, look

at The One Show website, where there are links to organisations that can

help. Thankfully onto the main guest tonight. Sir Tim Rice has arrived.

Let's look back at a fairly recent reincarnation of his famous work.

# Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ. # Superstar.

# Jesus Christ superstar... Please welcome Sir Tim Rice!

Terrible traffic. Yes, terrible. Are you well? I am sorry I was late. It

was a bit of excitement for us. It is live television so don't worry.

We were just looking back at Jesus Christ Superstar. Very different

there to the very first production. Would you imagine it would still be

touring? 40 years ago when we wrote it I did not think about 40 years

into the future and I am grateful that is still going. In a funny way,

the recent production, that arena show, the true rock show, is truer

to the original record that we recorded in 1970, and perhaps the

initial stage shows were in theatres. Though often very good but

that is really what Andrew and I really wanted, the rock version.

That is a great rock album. We have the Grease band, Billy had,

fantastic rock stars. They are all still around and singing great.

You're back catalogue is immense. Brilliant news. Over the summer, you

have a concert looking back at some of your best work, A Life In Song.

What can we expect to hear? I suppose you will hear what people

might expect, things from The Lion King, Evita, all that, but some

slightly different ones as well. I am looking forward to hearing Rob

Brydon singing a song that we wrote for Elvis. And Alexander Armstrong,

one of the best thing is you can imagine, with a beautiful voice, and

he is going to do a comedy song. Tim Minchin as well? Yes. Roger

Daltrey, Sophie Ellis Baxter. I am going to forget somebody. Julian

Ovenden? And he has a good set of pipes as well. There are some were

still chasing who have not yet confirmed. And as per your

involvement? I will be onstage chatting a bit. It not a talkfest. I

am going to be asked some probing questions by Michael Grade, not as

probing as yours! Like our songs got written. People like to hear how

they were created and it can be nice occasionally. Some flops as well as

the hits, but the stories can be funny. And we will hear about songs

that you collaborated with other people are, like Andrew Lloyd

Webber, Elton John, Benny and Bjorn from above. What was the most

fruitful collaboration? Or the easiest? Well, I would genuinely

hesitate to say this was more enjoyable or the work was better,

but obviously one's first collaboration, which got me going,

with Andrew, that was very important because we were both starting out,

we were both very young, which is often a great advantage in this

business. We were very lucky. It came at the right time. Through

that, both of us were able to work with other people so we were very

lucky. What the show. I can't wait because I am such a musicals fan. A

Life In Song starts on the 8th of July at the Royal Festival Hall.

This year marks the 100th anniversary of the birth of the

Welsh poet Dylan Thomas. And we have some good news for fans. And some

not so good news. Here Cerys Matthews. It is spring, a moonless

night in the small town. Starless and Bible black. Do not go gentle

into that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

These lines of poetry by Dylan Thomas, born here in Swansea. In his

lifetime he was a drinker, a fighter, womaniser and always

getting into a spot of bother and it seems that things have not changed

since his death. Jeff towns is the President of the Dylan Thomas

Society and a huge fan, just like me. He has been looking into the

evidence that the young poet changed the poems of others to pass them off

as his own. It started with a chance find among copies of poems that

Dylan Thomas had written as a boy. I bought a collection with a lot of

photocopies of juvenile poems. Just flicking through this thing. What

have I got here? Dylan Thomas had written as a boy.

That is not a photocopy, that is Dylan's handwriting. I am over the

moon. He started to sing as he tackles the thing that couldn't be

done and he did it. Jeff thought that this was an unknown unpublished

poem but his excitement did not last long. In my house one night, the TV

was on and it was the BBC Sports Personality Of The Year. Onto the

stage came Idris Elba. As he tackles the thing that couldn't be done...

Hang on! I went to my computer and out came this huge article. Edgar

Guest is an old boy from Birmingham going to America. Dylan had pinched

his poem and written it out. He changes one or to things so that it

looks more like his. No! Yes. Dylan had changed the title and replaced

the American words. Without any... Do you recognise that word? That is

something he changed. Another early poem reveals more surprises. A

remarkable ballad about drink that I was going to include in a book that

I was writing. But I thought I should check it and up came Henry

Lawson, a huge poet in Australia and he wrote the poem. Dylan made some

changes. He shot himself at a beach outside Sydney, but it got changed

to a beach outside London. These poems were not published in his

lifetime so he may not have intended them to be seen. But around the same

time, the schoolboy Thomas entered another poem by a local poet into a

competition under his own name and he won. He was not caught for some

years until somebody noticed. But it was the adult Thomas's own words

that would earn him international acclaim and Jeff has always been

surprised that no film footage exists but he has never given the

search. One always thought there must be a piece of film torque

newsreel somewhere. Now we found one. With your uncle's help, as it

happens. My uncle recorded interviews with people that have met

Dylan Thomas. In one, it says he was an extra in a film that was being

shot in Spain most of the time, but they came here to finish it off.

That was Pandora And The Flying Dutchman. Jeff found a photograph of

the poet, taken on the film set. He studied the faces of the locals used

as extras. He believes he has found a fleeting glimpse of Thomas. Shall

we see if we can have a look? On the end, there! Say, three guys behind

him. There he is, walking! Really

clearly. How do we know that is Dylan Thomas? Because we have a

photograph of him. The shape of his jacket and his Thai... Absolutely,

he was there. It's incredible that you have managed to find moving

footage in his Centenary year. It couldn't be better, could it? You

couldn't script it. The footage might be tiny, but it is a huge gift

to Dylan Thomas fans everywhere. What do you think? I think it's him!

Brilliant, thank you. If you are a film of Dylan Thomas's work, June

into programme occur on Friday, when we will be live from The Hey

Festival, with Rob Brydon, who is there to give a special reading of

some of his work. And we want your help, if you are part of a book club

with an interesting story to tell, we want you to get in touch. Maybe

you met your partner their... Or maybe you skip the reading and just

go for wine and gossip. Angelica is here now with some fleeting footage

of famous literary figures. Good to see you. What have you got for us?

The first thing I want to say is that what is important about these

clips is that they are the only known footage we have of authors

we're going to be talking about. Let's start with Mark Twain. He

wrote the Adventures Of Tom Sawyer and The Adventures Of Huckleberry

Finn. This was filmed by Thomas Edison, who was instrumental in the

development of motion camera. He was sitting and having tea with his

daughters. I just think that is fantastic.

He looks like Einstein! The second clip, George Orwell. Have you read

1984 and animal farm? This was taken in 1921, at a game, a bit like rugby

union. Real name Eric Blair, he is forth from the left. At the time, he

was studying at Eton. It hard to tell because of the hat. You are

sure that is him? As sure as that was Dylan Thomas! Although this

footage was taken much later, you would be surprised that we have

footage of Anne Franks. She is known for writing her diary when she went

into hiding from the Nazis in Amsterdam. It's from 1921, about a

year before she went into hiding. The girl next door was getting

married and she leaned out of the window to get a better look at the

bride and groom. In stark contrast to today, every move you make can be

filmed. Back then it was pretty special. Now, one issue that many

parents have to think about is when is the right time to allow children

their first mobile phone? Last week, the material College announced

details of a new study that will look at the effects of mobiles on

children's attention and memory span. The results will not be

published for a few weeks. In the meantime, we sent Iwan Thomas to

Milton Keynes to see what people there thought about children and

mobiles. The One Show megaphone!

People of Milton Keynes Dons today we are talking about mobile phones.

Showed children have them? Should youngsters be allowed mobile phones?

I had one about 12 and I think that was OK. I was allowed it at weekends

and it hasn't done me any harm. I wouldn't say younger than that. My

grandchildren, one is three and the other is five. One of them has a

mobile phone. The five-year-old. He knows how to contact his mother. As

long as they don't have any internet, or any other functions,

they are just used for emergency purposes. If I had children, I don't

think I'd agree with that. At the age of five I would not allow my

children to have a mobile phone. How old were you? Nine, I was a bit

spoiled. Mum or dad gives up. But they should be 16. At what age would

he or she be allowed a phone? 12 or 14. I think it's good you can

contact them if they don't come home. We are talking about mobile

phones, should children have them? What if one of their friends started

saying, I've got a mobile phone, they say, I want a phone? That's

good for your friend, I'm your mother! I can control what they see

at this age, but when they reach their teenage years, with their

friends, it's quite difficult. I suppose you wouldn't want to be the

odd one out. We want your views. Do you think a smartphone might be

ruining childhood in terms of people not talking any more? There is

definitely a negative side, it could get in a way of experiences you

should have as a child. The Met I grandchildren, you can't have a

conversation with them, they get cross if you interrupt them. They

are always in their bedrooms. Your opinions have been very interesting,

thank you! Let's talk about your musical, that

has just finished a six and a half month run, From Here To Eternity.

Where do you sit, in terms of if you think it is a good run? It was a

financial flop. But I think, and I suppose I would say this, I think it

had a lot of artistic merit and the cast were phenomenal. A wonderful

company. Darius? Yes, he warbled away. It's moving on? Shortly before

it ended, a film company approached us to film the show, which I am very

pleased about. That will be shown in seminars in July, in this country,

and in the states in September. -- cinemas. We will get a DVD out of

it. For me, it is a great souvenir of the show. It's an American

subject, perhaps not enough people in England had a clue about what

From Here To Eternity meant, a book from the 50s. But in America it is

still a huge event in American lives. I'm hopeful it will appear

again as a stage show. It is great that it is living on. From Here To

Eternity will be in cinemas across the 3rd of July.

Time for a trip down memory lane, to hear about the early home life of a

true political heavyweight. Famous for packing a real punch, you might

be surprised to hear how he was once knocked off his feet by a woman.

This is Ellis Street in brindle with. This is where I lived until

about 1951, 16 years ago. -- 60 years ago. I was born just before

the war, my father got taken into the army, went to Dunkirk and lost

his leg, unfortunately. The railway company put him in Rotherham and put

us in a railway house. These were company houses. That's what brought

me to Ellis Street. People used to say to me, isn't it tough living

down here? I said, no, it was a great immunity. We will all the

same, there were no differences. This was happiness as a kid, playing

with others. My eyes were opened when I went to my next house. I

realised there was a different world altogether. There it is. The semi-.

Suddenly, the age of 11, from the terraced houses, I arrived here, in

the middle-class Chester. It was quite a shock. It changed me, I

think. This one was the room you kept a bit

special in case the vicar called or someone. Not that we were a great

vicarage family. But that was the culture of the time. An electric

light, we had guests and the lights in the bedroom was a pipe that came

out with life gas. That's what we had. Here, you just switch on. We

used to call this the box room. My brother and I used to be in here. We

would have on beds, and we used to fight for who would get the top or

the bottom. When we got to about 13 or 14 we used to get together and go

to Butlins. There was boxing, so I entered into this and got into the

ring, with pumps on. The other guy was going like this in the corner. I

thought, what is going to happen here? I saw the most beautiful girl

with him. I walked out of the centre, squared up, still looking at

his girl when he hit me and sent me in a somersault across the ring. I

was looking at this girl instead of looking for the punch. I learned to

get a lot better, many years later! This is the very chair the two

people who influenced me most in my life, my mother and my father. My

dad used to sit in it, if he was in. When he was out, mum used to take

it. When they separated, this is where my mother sat, surveyed the

family, talked about problems, this was my mother, this was her chair,

and I feel her sitting with me. My father was known as a character. My

mother felt he spent more time outside than in the home, and I

think she's probably right. He was always obsessed with gambling.

Through the letterbox would come the union money for the holiday, and she

used to get there first. If she didn't get the union money, we lost

our holiday money for Bridlington or Scarborough. My mother, as mothers

do, carried the biggest burden. They are always there for you.

Well, this is a garden, isn't it! Here, you had a park. How could you

think it was anything else? The biggest garden in the land. This was

the heart of the community. The barbecue took place here. Here was

the centre. Here was my mother. She was the creator.

She said she was born a socialist, she died a socialist. Wherever you

live, you always campaign for socialism. It in my being, and that

is what it came from, my mother and my father. The experiences of two

different worlds. My heart lay in brings with. That made me feel, why

can't it be fairer for everybody? Doesn't he take after his mum?

Earlier on, we ask you to send in your amateur dramatics performances

of you in mane's performances. This is the Lion King. This is a good

one, Gareth, playing Jesus in Jesus Christ Superstar. He has the angst.

Thanks for joining us. We'll see you tomorrow.