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Evening all, and welcome to your Wednesday One

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Tonight, we've got a truly arresting show for you.

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In fact, it's so good - it's criminal.

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You have the right to be impressed at

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the courage shown by the finalists of the Police Bravery Awards.

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You have the right to be amazed when Mike Dilger witnesses

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an incredible example of GBH - that's grievous bird harassment.

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And, you have the right to be thrilled when Gyles

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tells us the tale of the man who tried to steal the Crown Jewels,

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Later, we'll bringing some very interesting

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They call themselves the Movie Doctors, but that's just an alias.

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They are the notorious film critics, Mark Kermode and Simon Mayo.

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But first I can hear the sound of approching sirens, they must be

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They are two of the latest crop of telly cops,

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whose big new crime busting show, Cuffs, starts tonight on BBC One.

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Fresh from chasing bad guys in Brighton, please, welcome

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Also known as Amanda Abbington and Ashley Walters.

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Nice to see you. I still have my hat on. Not all our guests arrive in

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police cars. Anywhere we go we arrive in police cars. What is it

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like playing coppers? Brilliant. We love it. We have got, as you can

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see, a studio full of real-life police officers in this evening. I

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thought it was a choir. Has doing this job, has becoming a police

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officer for this role meant you have looked at a force, looked at the

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force in a new light? Definitely. We quickly realised how under reforce

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sourced our police officers are. How much red tape there is. How much

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rules and regulations sometimes, I suppose, make it really difficult

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for them to just do their job. Paperwork. Protect us. I have a new

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fond respect, definitely. I don't know how you do it. A reliable

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source tells us, that you are playing a bad copper, you have a

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fear of birds of the owl variety? That's right, I am anticipate not

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afraid to say it. Not just the owl variety. It ranges from ladybirds -

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Anything that flies. Unfortunately, tonight wasn't the best night to

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choose we have a studio full of owls coming in shortly. They are very

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cute though. They look cute. Don't bring they near me. We will keep you

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away from the owls. When Anna Clancey wrote to us to see

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if we could help reunite her family after it was ripped apart, we put

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our best investigator on the case. As Jasmine Harman explains,

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it was one of their hardest 43-year-old Anna Clancey is one of

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four siblings, but she's never met her big brother or her older sister.

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Wait for me. Edward and Tracy were born to unmarried Irish Catholic

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parents who were living together here in Bournemouth. It was the

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1960s, a time when having children out of wedlock was barely tolerated.

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The babies were given away to be raised by other families. Anna's

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mother lived with the guilt of being separated from her oldest two

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children for over 50 years. Unbearable thinking about it. It is

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only until I had Grace that I think - how sad. How awful. For mum-to-be

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without two children. It's horrific. Such a shame. A large family, to be

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in a relationship, you know, not getting married. To have a child out

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of wedlock. Anna's parents eventually did get married and

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settled in Coventry. It was there they had Anna and her sister,

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Patricia. Even though there was only eight years difference between their

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oldest and youngest children, by now they couldn't find the oldest two.

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That must have haunted her? She was always troubled, yeah. Felt very

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guilty for years. She would always talk about them. Always get upset.

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Just hoped one day we would find them. Anna's mother died in 2013

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without having found the two children she had given away. Anna

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promised to keep looking for them. Determined to honour her mother's

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dying wish, Anna contacted us after seeing a successful reunion on the

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One Show we put our people finding expert to work. How is this as a

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case for you? It's complicated. We are looking for a brother and

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sister. We have no formal paperwork. We don't know if they are adopted or

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not. We don't know what their names are. We know the names of the people

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Tracy were given to. We have no idea whatsoever regarding Edward. We

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began by searching register offices but thought she had hit a dead end

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when he was adopted as those files are confidential. Then she had a

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stroke of luck. I put Edward's original name into a a family

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history website. There was one match. When I contacted that person,

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they confirmed that it was the Edward that I was looking for. Cat

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wrote to tell Edward he had a sister, Anna, who was looking for

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him. We brought him to Bournemouth with his wife Mandy. Did you ever

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consider you might have another family out there that were looking

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for you? To be honest, I had loving parents that brought me up. Why

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should I start having to look for other people, if that makes any

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sense. Was it a bit of a shock then when Cat contacted you? Absolutely.

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Definitely. It wasn't anything I'd been expecting at all. I have to

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confess, we have not been entirely straight with you because you are a

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big brother to not one, not two, but three sisters. One of them is here

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in Bournemouth today to meet you. That's going to be spooky. How are

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you feeling? That is a bit of a bigger extended family than I

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thought. Well, come with me. OK. Later in the programme. Cat's found

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your brother, Edward. Now, stay tuned because that

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really is going to be an emotional At the Police Bravery Awards last

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night, 64 police officers from across the country were honoured

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for performing outstanding acts We'll be meeting them throughout

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the show, but let's start with four people who were all involved

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in a very dangerous rescue. Welcome PCs Phillip Lewis, Ryan

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McCarthy, Andrew Mason and Helen Welcome all four of you to the show.

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Take us back to last Jan. What happened, Phillip? We were tasked

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out to a response report of an elderly couple that were trapped in

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a motor vehicle that was balancing over a can cliff edge. They were

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looking about 1,000 feet drop below. You arrived at the scene at

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different times. What happened then? Had to park my vehicle a fair

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distance away due to the ice on the road. There was a farmer passing, he

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drove me down to the scene. Myself and Helen and a member of the public

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we sat in the boot of the vehicle to counter balance it while Phil

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Andreasy got into the vehicle and got them out the rear doors. That

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must have been terrifying for you. Your first thought was to rescue the

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couple strapped in the front. Did they climb into the back seat? That

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is right. You You got them out out. Yeah. The couple finally got out of

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the car went back. They did. We got them placed to safety. The lady

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approached saying, would you go back into the car I've left my glasses

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and my disabled badge inside! Prayers. You got them out safely.

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Fantastic work. Yesterday was a significant day for you for another

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reason I proposed to Helen in Ten Downing Street. So lovely. Look at

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you two. Fantastic. Congratulations. Thank you very much. You had no idea

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it would happen? No idea at all. How long have you been going out? Three

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years. About time you popped the question. Yeah. We have people would

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like to send you congratulations. Ron and Sylvia. Thank you. We've

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just heard that Helen Andreas rue have got engaged last night. We'd

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like to take this opportunity of wishing them every happiness in the

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future especially because they gave us an extra life. Yes. I'm very glad

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they are getting this award. They deserve it.

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APPLAUSE. Fantastic. Doo-doo you recognise

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them I do. A nice surprise. Fantastic. Forever grateful to you,

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as they said, fully deserved the recognition that you had last night

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at the Awards. Congratulations. Thank you for joining us.

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From real-life police officers to those on the small screen.

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A brand new show, Cuffs, starts straight

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Here's a taster of what we can expect.

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Even, Sergeant. Evening. She's definitely dead. You were right to

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call. We do what we can. Any ID on her. Nothing? We need to see if we

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can get a DNA match. I will need the crime scene photos. I will try and

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get hold of next of kin on Monday. Do you know there are waiting lists

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to get one of these. What a way to go, eh?

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APPLAUSE. First question, how is this police

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drama different to any other drama we see on television? Do you know, I

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don't know if it is, actual actually. It's just... I mean, we

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deal with the police officers and the CID officers, we deal with their

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home life more. I mean, it set against the back drop of Brighton

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which I've never seen before. I do think the actors in it aren't The

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Usual Suspects. The stories are based on real-life - One of the

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things we found out was that it is on straight after us. Pre-watershed.

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That is quite different for police dramas. Do you think you had to

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compromise the realism because of that or is it more inclusive for all

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the family? I don't think we did. We didn't know that until a couple of

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months into it. We talked to the producer Trevor who said it would be

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on at 8.00pm. I said what? I hadn't been playing that in my head. It

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didn't change the performance. It's weird I hadn't thought of it being a

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pre-watershed drama. It's a good sign you don't think it's been

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compromised at all, very real. We owe a lot of that our writer.

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Amazing writing. We didn't think about it at all. No. We like to see

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how things really are. Sometimes dramas gloss over it. You say it

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focuses on front-line policing. It focuses on the characters and their

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personal lives. Where do we meet your character and what is happening

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in each of their lives? Do you want to go first? Do you? You are so

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polite. Ryan is a very, kind of, regular meanted, you know, by The

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Tenant of Wildfell Hall guy. As we were saying before, he soon realises

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that sometimes you have to bend the rules a bit if you want to get the

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job done and protect people in the right way. I think it's through his

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relationship with Jake that he realises that. We are expecting him

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to be a bit of an idiot because he's not gone through the same process

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that we've been through. IE trained and whatever else because his dad is

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the Chief Superintendent. He turns out to be a star. He is in real-life

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as well. What about you, Amanda I play DC Jo Moffatt who is an acting

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Detective Sergeant. She is doing her exams to become a Sergeant. She is

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good at her job. She wants to get the bad guy, but do it fairly. She

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worries about her job and is incredibly professional. But her

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personal life is a shambles shechl has a toxic relationship with

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somebody within the force. That unfolds. There is a catalyst that

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makes her stop that relationship. Something happens to her in a couple

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of the episodes ahead. But she's - yes, she's a good police officer.

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But a terrible person in real-life. She has not got - You are amazing! I

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am really cool. I'm cool. You are. Is she any good at handcuffing. It's

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called Cuffs. The ultimate test is how well you learned to put on the

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handcuffs. We have a pair here. You have a pair of handcuffs. They are

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the proper ones as well. They are. I don't know if there is a key here. I

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don't think there is. We can't do it then, can we? Sorry. That went

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wrong. You were supposed to handcuff me. We can't do it. I never

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handcuffed anybody in the whole show. I left it to the uniformed

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coppers. I left it to my sidekick. I have had a lucky escape. You do

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that. Ow! They are really heavy. Can I say something serious. What we

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found out is some people get cuffed to the front and some to the rear

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depending on how violent you think they are going to be or how much of

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a problem they will be. That is my one little... I would definitely

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have been to the rear, Amanda. Both cuffed to the rear. You were in a

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rap group, a famous one, So Solid Crew. Were you? Yes. You started out

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in Grange Hill. We should look at you in action. Oh, my Had beening

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relight my fire # Your love is my only desire

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# Relight my fire # Because I need... #

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He knows all the words. Rubbish innit. , they left that out of the

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brief before the show! No-one told me about. I have no idea why. So

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Solid Crew was, basically, a rap-based group which was probable

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ideal, wasn't it? Yeah, it was. After that I had to do something to

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get my street credibility back. From that. You didn't have to do it from

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that. That was amazing. Good vocals. Cuffs is on straight

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after us here on BBC One. Now, in just under two weeks,

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Team Rickshaw will be leaving Land's End and heading for the

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East End, a journey of almost 500 We've got two Georges on board

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and we're about to hear why the fantastic George D is riding

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with Matt and the team. Before we do, here's

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a little message from a popstar I'm a Rita Ora and I'm supporting

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the rickshaw challenge for BBC Children In Need. Please give what

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you can. My name is George, I'm 17 and I live with my mum, and my

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brother, in Surrey. This is my room. This is where I

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spend most of my time. My bed. All the posters, my favourite wall.

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Especially the Radiohead poster. My stereo, CDs there. It is all right

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and white for arsenal. Dad reluctantly helped to decorate

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that. My dad was my role model. We did loads of cycling together. We

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would go out on Saint Georges Hill, go to the Lake District for camping

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weekends, just me and him. It was a pretty regular, boring Sunday

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afternoon in September. I was 14. My dad went out for a bike ride. It

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started to get dark and he never cycled in the dark, so I rang his

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phone and a policeman answered. They said he had been involved in a road

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traffic accident. The next thing, we are going to the hospital. Still at

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this point, I feel like it's nothing, he's just hurt himself a

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little bit. Once we were there, we were basically told there was

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nothing they could do for him. Er... For me, the worst thing was

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having to tell my boys. It just hits you. I can't remember if I said

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goodbye to him. I was in complete denial. I would text his phone,

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message him on Facebook and stuff. I would let him know that I missed

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him, I loved him. Despite the fact I knew I would never get a reply.

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These are some of his shoes, some stunning purple dress shoes. My mum

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was telling me about these and how I could potentially be wearing them. I

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look at them now and I realise they are size 9.5. I could literally be

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walking a mile in his shoes. Tommy D is a youth group for

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teenagers who have suffered a bereavement of some sort. It is

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supported by a hospice and Children In Need. To be able to socialise and

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discuss coping methods, and ways you deal with situations and daily life,

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it is absolutely invaluable. George joined our group two years ago with

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his brother Fred. They were doing OK. But I have noticed the change,

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he is now able to talk about feelings at a deeper level. On an

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average year, we will see at least 200 children through our service and

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that is totally funded by Children In Need. It was very hard to get

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back on a bike after the accident. It must have been a year. George has

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been selected for the rickshaw challenge. I am so proud. He

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actually put himself forward without telling me. I want to do it both to

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help publicise youth groups such as Tommy D so they can help hundreds of

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children every day who lose a parent, and as well to make my dad

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proud. I know Andy would be so proud. It is very poignant that he

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is cycling. Just text or donate to Team Rickshaw.

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Thank you to George and his family for sharing the story. It must have

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been incredibly tough for them. As George said,

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you don't need to cycle to take Amanda and Ashley, could you

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remind viewers how they do that? To donate ?5 to Children in Need,

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text the word TEAM to 70705. Texts will cost your donation,

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plus your standard network message All of your donation will

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go to Children in Need. You must be 16 or over and, please,

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ask for the bill payer's permission. For more information

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and full terms and conditions go to where you can also donate online if

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you want to give a different amount. The lines are open now so, please,

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get on your phone and start texting. We're looking forward to meeting

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the other members of Team Rickshaw Now, it's time to meet another

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courageous couple of coppers who were honoured at last

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night's Police Bravey Awards. First, let's speak to

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Sergeant Paul Sherridan. Thank you for being here. I want to

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set the scene on last year, celebrating your 50th birthday, in a

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sense you were off duty, trekking across the Himalayas at about 17,500

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feet. When you were crossing the past, you hit a snowstorm. That's

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right, I was out there to relax and get away from the events of home.

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Unfortunately I was caught in the worst trekking disaster of a snow

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storm that hit the Himalayas. 43 people died, 200 were injured. Some

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people are still unaccounted for. It was a horrendous experience. Very,

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very difficult. But you did save 150 people. On the past, it became

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apparent that from being led down the mountain, I quickly became the

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leader. -- on the pass. I became the first person, people were looking to

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someone to help them get off the mountain. You have since discovered

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one of the people you saved survived against all odds. People were

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wearing inappropriate clothing unfortunately. One of the people I

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helped to save was wearing cotton clothing, he had a frozen face. I

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comforted him and told him not to worry that I would help him. I

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didn't know what had happened to him but I have found out he is alive. He

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is in Kathmandu and one day I am going to speak to him. Thank you.

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Simon, take us back to the A3 in Surrey. We were responding to a

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serious road traffic crash that had happened elsewhere. As we went

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southbound, we were told there was a car travelling the wrong way on the

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carriageway. We ended up putting on a rolling road, slowing down the

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traffic behind us, and having seen a car travelling towards us at speed,

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we put our police car in its path and we engineered a head-on crash

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with it. You saved so many drivers and passengers. Did you consider

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your own safety at any time, Edward? We knew what we had to do and we did

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what we were trained to do. Obviously we were a bit worried

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about what would happen, but thankfully it turned out all right.

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Both cars were written off. Were you injured? I was hospitalised and

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treated for whiplash. It is still a bit of an ache, but it will get

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better! Well, congratulations, and we will meet one of the overall

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winners of the awards at the end of the show.

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Now, to a crime that happened over 300 years ago.

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Gyles brings us the story of one of the most audacious heists

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Early in the morning of the 9th of May month, 1671, a gang of thieves

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broke into the Tower of London armed with swords, daggers and pistols.

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The leader of the gang, disguised as a parson, attacked the 77-year-old

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keeper of the jewels. They crushed the Saint Edward 's crown, stuffed

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it in a bag, and the group made off with the old and sceptre hidden in

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their breeches. This was the closest anyone had ever come to stealing the

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Crown Jewels. The London Gazette dramatically proclaimed that the

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jewel keeper's son found his father left for dead in a pool of blood.

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The vault was empty. The sun helped his father to his feet and the old

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man is said to have shouted, murder, treason! The Crown is

:25:08.:25:08.

stolen! The ringleader was the self

:25:09.:25:17.

appointed Colonel Blood, an eccentric Irish political schemer

:25:18.:25:24.

during the Civil War. Colonel Blood is a mystery in English history, he

:25:25.:25:30.

fought on both sides in this war. A captain on the loyalists, a

:25:31.:25:32.

lieutenant governor parliamentarians. He was the most

:25:33.:25:36.

wanted man in England for his involvement in numerous plots to

:25:37.:25:40.

assassinate the king, Charles II. And what drove him to all this? His

:25:41.:25:45.

desire to be talked about. Nobody else would dare to try and steal the

:25:46.:25:49.

crown jewels from the Tower of London. He wants to be infamous. He

:25:50.:25:53.

is doing it for the fame may not be so Sarah leave a fortune. -- for the

:25:54.:26:02.

fame, not necessarily the fortune. Colonel Blood and his accomplices

:26:03.:26:06.

were finally captured on the Thames wharf just outside the fortress

:26:07.:26:11.

walls. The guards also recovered the King's crown. Several gemstones were

:26:12.:26:14.

missing due to the blows from his mallet. The Crown was returned to be

:26:15.:26:23.

reshaped, to be reset, and we have the bill. It says, also for

:26:24.:26:31.

repairing his magistrate's crown, both being broken in the attempt,

:26:32.:26:36.

and the stones set, and three stones added. The sum of ?145. -- His

:26:37.:26:43.

Majesty's round. That is about 20 grand nowadays. Why is it so

:26:44.:26:49.

significant? He is stealing something incredibly valuable in

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content and symbolism, it represents government and monarchy. The crown

:26:55.:26:58.

jewels were only ten years old, they had been remade for the restoration

:26:59.:27:04.

of Charles II. To snatch these things, it's a very violent and

:27:05.:27:12.

audacious crime. After his arrest, Blood was brought before the king in

:27:13.:27:16.

chains. He was undaunted and cheerfully acknowledged that the

:27:17.:27:19.

crime had been a gallant deed although it failed. He even made the

:27:20.:27:24.

outrageous offer to buy the priceless jewels from the king for a

:27:25.:27:30.

measly ?6,000. The king refused. Faced with the prospect of a

:27:31.:27:35.

traitor's execution, Blood offered to work as a spy for the king to

:27:36.:27:39.

save his own skin. His proposition is simple. Spare me, and I will

:27:40.:27:45.

bring in all those traitors who are plotting your downfall. But the head

:27:46.:27:50.

of the Secret Service admits it to a colleague that day that having Blood

:27:51.:27:56.

in their hands, working for the Secret Service, was worth more than

:27:57.:28:01.

ten times the value of the Crown. By turning coat, Blood was pardoned for

:28:02.:28:08.

all treason's, murders and assaults. King Charles even granted him

:28:09.:28:12.

property of Ireland and a pension for life. Lott died at his home in

:28:13.:28:18.

Westminster at the age of 62. -- Blood. His epitaph read, here lies

:28:19.:28:24.

the man who has boldly run mauled villainy than England ever knew, and

:28:25.:28:30.

to any friendly ever had was true. Let's rejoice his time has come to

:28:31.:28:33.

die. -- to any friend he ever had. We love a bit of history! O, Colonel

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blood, you scoundrel! I am attempting to channel my inner

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captain Thomas blood, because he was notorious and extraordinary. It

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would not be so easy today. In his day, the Crown Jewels were kept in a

:28:59.:29:03.

cupboard and taken out for people to see. Now they are locked inside a

:29:04.:29:08.

glass fault. You can't build them, you can go in person, millions do.

:29:09.:29:14.

-- a glass fault. If you want to handle them, they only give you

:29:15.:29:19.

replicas. It is now only the Queen, the sovereign who gets to see and

:29:20.:29:26.

where the Crown Jewels. That is a replica. The real thing is locked

:29:27.:29:30.

away. This man was a serial offender. Colonel Blood was obsessed

:29:31.:29:35.

with getting his own back on the ground. He was a turncoat. He had

:29:36.:29:39.

been on the side of Cromwell, then the king. He felt the king had done

:29:40.:29:43.

him down and he had had his lands taken away, so he was determined to

:29:44.:29:48.

seek revenge and he attempted in 1863 to capture the Duke of Ormond,

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he failed and there was a price on his head. He escaped. In 1867, a

:29:56.:30:01.

friend of his was about to be executed. He turned up and save the

:30:02.:30:05.

man from the gallows. He escaped again. Back to the Duke of Ormond,

:30:06.:30:10.

he tries to capture him in Piccadilly in broad daylight.

:30:11.:30:14.

Doesn't succeed but again he escapes. He spends his whole life is

:30:15.:30:20.

gaping the gallows. A great charmer and a remarkable figure. When he

:30:21.:30:22.

eventually does die, people don't believe he is dead, they believe he

:30:23.:30:28.

is hiding. They opened the grave, produced the coffin and got a jury

:30:29.:30:33.

of 22 people to say, is this Colonel Blood? They can't decide. So he may

:30:34.:30:35.

still be with us for all we know! APPLAUSE.

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If you were my history teacher I would have got an A without a shadow

:30:43.:30:47.

of doubt. He has left a legacy in more than ways than one He is

:30:48.:31:01.

immortalised in film. In the Muppet series they took his story to become

:31:02.:31:05.

crown Jewel thieves themselves. Gangsta Granny. We have a picture.

:31:06.:31:10.

David Walliams. He is trying to get the Queen. The present Queen. To rob

:31:11.:31:17.

her own Crown Jewels using Captain Blood's methods. If you are looking

:31:18.:31:22.

for something for Christmas. This could tempt you with all your money

:31:23.:31:27.

from So Solid Crew. You could probably afford this. When Charles

:31:28.:31:32.

II had new Crown Jewels made he spent ?13,000 on them up could have

:31:33.:31:45.

this game Outrage for ?19,000. It replicates stealing the Crown

:31:46.:31:48.

jewels. Theses things are solid gold. This is diamond encrusted.

:31:49.:31:54.

There we are. Isn't it maddening there are police in the room! I

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know! Thank you, Gyles. Speaking of investigation work and Crown Jewels.

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We have to mention Sherlock the Christmas special much we will not

:32:07.:32:09.

ask you, can we tell you anything. We know you can't. Are your children

:32:10.:32:14.

as excited. You and Martin are in it. Are they excited as everybody

:32:15.:32:18.

else They always get excited with Sherlock. They watch it a lot. They

:32:19.:32:22.

love it. It's being screened in cinemas. On Jan 1st. Around the

:32:23.:32:27.

world as well there will be cinemas showing it at the same time. Will

:32:28.:32:32.

you take the children to the cinema or watch it at home Watch it at home

:32:33.:32:37.

it's New Year's Day. They have a cinema in their house! We are

:32:38.:32:41.

watching it on my iPhone, all round it like that. When do you begin

:32:42.:32:46.

filming? We film the fourth series starting in April. How secretive is

:32:47.:32:56.

it? Incredibly - the characters know the next story lines. It's

:32:57.:33:04.

brilliant. We might have to get Colonel Blood. I'm ready. Let's not

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wish that on anybody! You look proper scary. He is growling as

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well. Excellent. Stop doing that. , Tim coming we have Mark Kermode and

:33:24.:33:27.

Mayo and owls in the studio and a lovely reunion.

:33:28.:33:30.

But first, bacon buttie lovers will be crying

:33:31.:33:31.

into their ketchup this week with the news that processed and cured

:33:32.:33:34.

Dom Littlewood has been on the hunt for anything that can

:33:35.:33:38.

Take some sizzling rashers of bacon. Two thick slices of crusty white

:33:39.:33:50.

bread and a drills ling of sauce. There you have it, the perfect bacon

:33:51.:33:56.

butte. This week the world health organisation ruined it for us by

:33:57.:34:00.

saying 50 grams of processed meat a day. About two slices of bacon, can

:34:01.:34:06.

increase our risk of bowel cancer by a hefty 18%. -- buttie. It's enough

:34:07.:34:11.

to put you off your breakfast. What can you do if you still want your

:34:12.:34:19.

bacon fix without the risk? We are making up meat-free sandwiches using

:34:20.:34:24.

a bacon substitute which includes wheat, gluton soya protein and

:34:25.:34:29.

natural flavours. He is faking the bacon. Time to put it to the test. I

:34:30.:34:35.

had no breakfast today. Perfect. Lovely. What if I told you there is

:34:36.:34:43.

no meat in there at all. Kidding. Are you serious. It tastes like

:34:44.:34:47.

bacon. What do you think? Nice and crispy. How does that compare to

:34:48.:34:52.

yesterday's bacon butties? This is better. Is it? What do you think?

:34:53.:35:00.

It's not bacon. I don't like it. Why not? I can't taste it. Let us see

:35:01.:35:11.

what the builders think. Bacon buttieses. , what do you think?

:35:12.:35:20.

Noted a good as my mothers, not bad. Will it break their bacon habits. I

:35:21.:35:25.

may minimise it. I won't change it. If I'm thinking health wise I should

:35:26.:35:29.

stop smoking if I'm going to change my bacon. What did you think? Not as

:35:30.:35:34.

terrifying. Misleading. It's scaremongering. It doesn't look like

:35:35.:35:41.

we will give up our bacon butties in a hurry. The experts say everything

:35:42.:35:46.

in moderation. I'm a great believer of a little of what you fancy didn't

:35:47.:35:51.

do anybody any harm. He loves a bacon sandwich.

:35:52.:35:54.

From bacon butties to a duo who always sizzles.

:35:55.:35:56.

We are joined now by broadcasters and film critcs,

:35:57.:35:58.

I like being compared to a bacon sandwich. Your book, The Movie

:35:59.:36:12.

Doctors, came out last week. How qualified are you as doctors

:36:13.:36:19.

Superbly qualified? Well, we are technically both doctors. Yes. What

:36:20.:36:25.

happened was I spent four years writing a PhD thesis and became a

:36:26.:36:30.

doctor. Sigh moan woke up and said, would you like an honorary

:36:31.:36:34.

doctorate. That is how he got his. He put on a gown and a silly hat and

:36:35.:36:42.

turn up at a ceremony. He calls himself Dr K Mayo. I got a proper

:36:43.:36:48.

degree. It was like a bog off deals. Buy one, get one free. I said, thank

:36:49.:36:53.

you very much. I will be a doctor of letters. He, being a fool, worked

:36:54.:36:58.

for his. I got mine for We were do nothing. Ing a movie show. We wanted

:36:59.:37:03.

to do a stage thing we talked to audiences about how movies made them

:37:04.:37:08.

feel. Because of the doctors we thought we would do it like a

:37:09.:37:11.

clinic. You talk to us about how you feel. We will prescribe movies that

:37:12.:37:16.

will make you feel better, overcome fears. That is how it came about.

:37:17.:37:19.

For the record, he is not a real doctor. Neither of us are medical

:37:20.:37:23.

doctors. All right. If we stick with the medical theme. Yes. Let us

:37:24.:37:29.

picture the scene. I have insomnia. Which film then would you prescribe

:37:30.:37:35.

to help me with it Insomnia. This is a big problem for a lot of people. I

:37:36.:37:39.

would say definitely - what you want to go for is not a bad movie. You

:37:40.:37:44.

want to go for a movie where nothing really happens. We prescribe The

:37:45.:37:51.

Piano. I love The Piano. No you don't. You're wrong. You think you,

:37:52.:37:57.

do you actually don't. Is there scientific basis? We have both

:37:58.:38:03.

fallen asleep during The Piano. It's possible to fall asleep watching the

:38:04.:38:07.

Transformer movies they are bad and loud. The noise becomes white noise.

:38:08.:38:11.

It's quite relaxing. While the robots are hitting each other you

:38:12.:38:15.

can, you know, get a good 20 minutes sleep. That works for me. Fair

:38:16.:38:19.

enough. One that will help Amanda and you. All of us. You talk about

:38:20.:38:28.

being better parents. Which would you recommend? Arguments for having

:38:29.:38:33.

children and arguments against having children. In against having

:38:34.:38:41.

children. We looked at films like Exorcist. And Village of the Damned.

:38:42.:38:46.

What what happens if my child turns out like one of these and how would

:38:47.:38:50.

I deal with it? So if your child turns out like David in Village of

:38:51.:38:55.

the Damned weird hair and dresses like he goes to prep school his

:38:56.:39:01.

nails are thin - He stairs at you saying - I don't think you're going

:39:02.:39:07.

to London. That is so scary. With a little kid. What would you do if

:39:08.:39:18.

your child turned Isaac from Children of the of the Corn.

:39:19.:39:21.

How would you deal with thats a a parent. -- that as a parent. I would

:39:22.:39:27.

let you look after them. There are positives. For example, Mary

:39:28.:39:34.

Poppins. Paddington. One of the best argument for having children is

:39:35.:39:40.

seeing Paddington in the cinema. You want to see it yourself and Mary

:39:41.:39:46.

Poppins you can watch it over and over. There is a problem if you have

:39:47.:39:54.

a problem with birds. There is a famous sequence, Feed the Birds. She

:39:55.:40:01.

sings to a bird on her finger. It's therapeutic. It would help you. I

:40:02.:40:06.

will try it tonight. Try it with the owl later on. No, no. We won't do it

:40:07.:40:15.

to you. NO! People love your podcasts. Millions listen to them.

:40:16.:40:20.

We love the banter between them. If there is a film which completely

:40:21.:40:25.

splits you in terms of opinion? So many! The only one that is obvious

:40:26.:40:32.

is I love the Exorcist I say it's the greatest movie made. You refuse

:40:33.:40:36.

to watch it. The more you don't want it the more annoying it is to me.

:40:37.:40:39.

Yes. The like the idea it's annoying. We have been doing shows

:40:40.:40:44.

together for the best part, forever isn't is? 100 years much I have it

:40:45.:40:49.

on DRVD. I won't watch it. No, it will annoy Mark if I don't. There

:40:50.:40:54.

was a film I love, sweet romance called Jeremy. From the early 70s.

:40:55.:40:58.

He won't watch it because he knows that not watching it gets on my

:40:59.:41:03.

nerves. He played me the usic. The music is terrible. You have to watch

:41:04.:41:07.

the film to say it's the worst movie. Have you to watch the film to

:41:08.:41:12.

make a judgment on it? I'm not going to do it deliberately. One of the

:41:13.:41:18.

fim ams you launch a tie raid on, for eight minutes, is Entourage. Let

:41:19.:41:21.

us decide whether you are a fan or not. We can make up our minds. Let

:41:22.:41:25.

us look at this. I'm sitting there in the middle of this thing, it's

:41:26.:41:31.

like a pornographic, consumerist, hate filled piece of propaganda

:41:32.:41:34.

which is saying to everyone - this is what you should aspire to. This

:41:35.:41:42.

level of moral torper. This level of utter... Just foul, soul-sucking,

:41:43.:41:49.

horrible vacuum of vile emptiness is what you should aspire to. Not keen

:41:50.:41:56.

then? I didn't like it. Actually, the reason that went on for so long.

:41:57.:42:00.

Simon saw it before I did. Yeah. I hated it first. He hated it first. I

:42:01.:42:06.

said to the producer I don't think we should do this guest. Mark is

:42:07.:42:11.

going to hate it. On the subject of that clip, Daniel Craig came on the

:42:12.:42:14.

show and did a big Bond special much I go if in. You have six minutes

:42:15.:42:19.

allocated to you. I went in, I said, hello Daniel, Layer Cake was the

:42:20.:42:25.

last time we spoke face-to-face. He said, that Entourage clip has gone

:42:26.:42:29.

well. That is what James Bond wanted to talk about, that What you did

:42:30.:42:34.

clip. Was, you didn't at any point, he enter rupts and stops. He sat

:42:35.:42:38.

back and went, I agree. It's foul, evil. Amanda would obviously know

:42:39.:42:45.

Jeremy who is one of the stars of Entourage? Entourage isn't a great

:42:46.:42:51.

film. It It's not. It worked out perfectly. No awkwardness. Was he an

:42:52.:43:00.

interesting guest, Jeremy Piven. Was the movie any good? No, it's viled

:43:01.:43:07.

and horrible. We get the picture. The Tenant of Wildfell Hall is out

:43:08.:43:11.

now. If you fancy hearing what they have to say go and get it.

:43:12.:43:16.

Now, as Mark and Simon will know, in Hitchcock's legendary 1963 film,

:43:17.:43:19.

The Birds, our feathered friends started attacking humans.

:43:20.:43:21.

But in Mike Dilger's 2015 remarkable film, Owl Vs Kestral, they're far

:43:22.:43:24.

This year has been a disappointing one for barn owls breeding. Largely

:43:25.:43:37.

due to the low numbers of their main prey. In North Yorkshire, help is at

:43:38.:43:42.

hand. Is shall we get in the hide? Yes. Robert Fuller is a patient of

:43:43.:43:50.

the Owl Trust and where possible helps the birds out. They get

:43:51.:43:53.

special treatment close to your home? When the weather is bad they

:43:54.:44:07.

get fed every day. He can observe who moves in and what they get up

:44:08.:44:11.

to. It's not long before we see the current occupier of this particular

:44:12.:44:15.

nest. Straight in. Yes. That will be the male. This nest box was

:44:16.:44:21.

originally being used by a pair of kestrals. This particular male barn

:44:22.:44:26.

owl had other ideas. Thanks to Robert's cameras, the fight for

:44:27.:44:32.

ownership was all captured on film. That is a massive scrap between a

:44:33.:44:36.

barn owl and a kestral. I've never seen the likes of that before. The

:44:37.:44:39.

female kestral returned to her nest box to find an unwanted and very

:44:40.:44:44.

determined house guest. You can see the male blocking the entrance. The

:44:45.:44:50.

barn owl is trapped in there. The kestral has the mentality of attack.

:44:51.:44:55.

The placid barn owl that is more like a Golden Retriever. It's very

:44:56.:45:01.

capable, with the long legs, and big talons of doing damage. The fight

:45:02.:45:06.

lasted an hour with the barn owl winning. What happened to the

:45:07.:45:09.

kestral, does it end happily? Yes. They nested in the garden, 60 meters

:45:10.:45:14.

from where we are sat now. The victorious barn owl attracted a

:45:15.:45:19.

mate. Initially, she laid two eggs. Then a farmer came to Robert with

:45:20.:45:24.

two abandoned chicks. As he has a licence for his barn owl work he

:45:25.:45:28.

tried something that he believes has never been done before much he

:45:29.:45:31.

placed the chicks alongside her eggs and waited to see if the female owl

:45:32.:45:37.

would accept them. She popped out and came back in and went, two

:45:38.:45:42.

chicks. They hacked and suddenly a week old. She adopted them? She toad

:45:43.:45:48.

over over them wef weren't sure if she was going to brood them or eat

:45:49.:45:52.

them she started feeding them. We knew we had cracked it. Two owls in

:45:53.:45:56.

there safely. Embraced them as her own? Yeah. The adopted chicks, being

:45:57.:46:02.

a week older, are bigger than their new siblings. When food is scarce

:46:03.:46:06.

larger chicks have been known to eat the smaller ones. Robert has been

:46:07.:46:11.

helping out by adding extra food on top of what the parents bring back

:46:12.:46:17.

from hunting. This year it's a poor vowel year. We feed all of the

:46:18.:46:23.

garden birds and enkourageage them why not the barn owls and birds of

:46:24.:46:28.

prey. Help them out when it's bad. They usually live for fur years and

:46:29.:46:35.

need to eat four small mammals a day on top of what they feed a chicks.

:46:36.:46:40.

Robert places food out every night. If we are lucky we might see owls

:46:41.:46:45.

feeting in front of us. Stay real still.

:46:46.:46:57.

Within 12 seconds... Silent like a bat. Is the most confident, he is

:46:58.:47:06.

always first in, and the female is more shy. By watching the owls so

:47:07.:47:11.

closely, Robert has been able to identify the family pecking order.

:47:12.:47:17.

He is seeing several generations of the same barn owl family returning

:47:18.:47:23.

to be fed. A family tree of this part of Wiltshire. Two years work,

:47:24.:47:29.

coming down here every single night. It shows what's possible with

:47:30.:47:33.

totally wild birds. So looks like the barn owls' future is secure.

:47:34.:47:41.

Robert's work is truly lifting the lid on what these wonderful birds

:47:42.:47:47.

are capable of. Gorgeous. I love that shot.

:47:48.:47:50.

We're joined now by Ryan Stocks, who is a expert falconer, and PC Gareth

:47:51.:47:53.

Jones from North Yorkshire Police, who specialises in wildlife crime.

:47:54.:47:56.

Before we talk crime, let's meet these beautiful birds.

:47:57.:48:01.

This is what we call our owl identity parade!

:48:02.:48:09.

Have we managed to get every species of British owl into the studio?

:48:10.:48:14.

Not quite, we are missing the long eared and short eared owl. We have

:48:15.:48:19.

got the rest of the five official native species and a couple of

:48:20.:48:32.

others. Mark and Arthur... After is a European eagle owl, the biggest

:48:33.:48:37.

type of owl in the world. Found in Russia with a small number in

:48:38.:48:42.

Britain. They are very powerful. A male like Arthur would catch a log

:48:43.:48:47.

of rats and birds. A female, much bigger, they have been known to

:48:48.:48:52.

attack the occasional hear and Wolf. A lot of crushing power in the grip.

:48:53.:49:01.

-- the occasional deer. Every now and then, the shrieking makes me a

:49:02.:49:07.

bit jumpy but otherwise fine! Amanda is holding Bertie. He is a British

:49:08.:49:19.

barn owl. They fly very low. They have silent flight which allows them

:49:20.:49:23.

to sneak up on their prey. They can catch rodents silently with their

:49:24.:49:28.

sharp talons. Fantastic hearing like any owl, they can hear the heartbeat

:49:29.:49:36.

of the road ands. Very clever. -- the heartbeat of the rodents. Poppy

:49:37.:49:46.

is a tawny owl, the most common owl in Britain. You can hear them at

:49:47.:49:50.

night. The twit sound is by the female, the twoo sound is by the

:49:51.:49:58.

mail owl calling back. I have got Oscar. After is a ventral quizzed's

:49:59.:50:07.

dummy, but this is the real thing! -- after is a ventriloquist's dummy.

:50:08.:50:17.

He is an arctic snowy owl. Designed for cold weather. Fantastic in the

:50:18.:50:25.

Arctic. Bright yellow eyes. The barn owl has very dark eyes. Not all

:50:26.:50:32.

owls are nocturnal. Dark eyes means they are nocturnal, bright yellow

:50:33.:50:36.

eyes, a daytime owl. Majestic, isn't he? Orville is a little owl,

:50:37.:50:47.

imported from America 200 years ago. They are the smallest we have. And

:50:48.:50:53.

the cutest and loveliest. Gareth, talking about the crime, we

:50:54.:50:57.

understand birds in North Yorkshire are vulnerable. Why is that? North

:50:58.:51:01.

Yorkshire is the largest rural county in England and Wales, large

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areas of organised shooting, the grouse moors off the North Yorkshire

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Moors and the Yorkshire Dales. In between, there are areas of

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grassland and woodland, and where there is large shooting, there is

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always a conflict with birds of prey. People set traps, you were

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telling us. So if anyone sees anything out of the ordinary, the

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best thing to do is to get in touch with the local police. Take a

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picture if you can, GPS location, and in your local police force.

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Thank you, all. And to these beautiful owls.

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Earlier in the show, we met Anna Clancey, who's been searching

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for the older brother and sister she'd never met after her mum was

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forced to give them up before Anna was born.

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But now Jasmine may be about to give her the surprise

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Anna Clancey has never met her older brother and sister, Edward and

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Tracy. They were born out of wedlock and their parents had to give them

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up. In the hope of fulfilling her mother's dying wish for all her

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children to be reunited, Anna turned to us for help and we put our people

:52:17.:52:20.

finding expert Cat Whiteaway on the case. Have you ever thought about

:52:21.:52:25.

what you would do if you were to find Edward and Tracey? A big hug,

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for a start. My mum's wish, she would be looking down. She would

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rest in peace knowing hopefully they are OK. I have got some news for

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you. Cat has found your brother Edward.

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Where is he? I have a photo if you would like to see it. Yes, please.

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This is him with his wife, Mandy. Goodness me. He's alive, thank

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goodness, wow, he looks happy. You can ask him yourself. Because he is

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here. Look around. This is your brother Edward.

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Very tall! Mum's nose and everything! I can't believe it. I

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can't really say a lot. I'm fine. What would your mum say? She would

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always cry about you and wrong for you. She always talked about it.

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Your brother's 30th, 40th. You were always there. I can't believe it.

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Amazing job. Lovely, isn't it? Are you a bit

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shaken? Shell-shocked. A lot for Edward to catch up on, a whole

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family he knows nothing about. You can see some family photos now,

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Edward. Your natural parents, for the first time. How does that feel?

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Amazing, it really is. I never thought I would know my father. We

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were also looking for Tracey, the other missing sibling. And I have

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some news on that for Anna and Edward. Cat has also found Tracey.

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Unfortunately she's not here today. But she would like to meet you both.

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Here she is. My goodness. And it does not end there. Edward's family

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are quite big, nieces, in-laws, aunts and uncles. Some of them are

:55:12.:55:15.

here today to meet him for the first time. I didn't think this was going

:55:16.:55:25.

to happen! This has been amazing. To fulfil a mother's dying wish and

:55:26.:55:30.

bring her children back together is so emotional. And hopefully going

:55:31.:55:34.

forward, all of them will get to meet each other and become part of

:55:35.:55:35.

each other's lives. Well, we spoke to the family and

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we're delighted to tell you that all four siblings have now met up

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and have started to build A special thanks to

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our people finder, Cat Whiteaway, She's looking her next challege,

:55:50.:55:54.

so if you'd like her help, please, get in touch with us via

:55:55.:55:59.

our email address Halloween on Friday, your film

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choices, Mark? I would go for the Japanese horror film, Ringu. Better

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than the American remake. I will go for Pingu, particularly the episode

:56:25.:56:30.

where he goes to the toilet... A sensible suggestion from Amanda? We

:56:31.:56:34.

have just watched the omen trilogy, I would say the first one, because

:56:35.:56:42.

it is brilliant. Ashley? The Birds! Or the one show! You dealt with that

:56:43.:56:46.

remarkably well! All night we've been meeting police

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heroes who were honored in a ceremony here in London

:56:53.:56:54.

yesterday, but now it's time to meet This year,

:56:55.:56:57.

the judging panel decided two cases of police bravery were exceptional,

:56:58.:57:00.

so the award will be shared by PC Winston Mugarura from the Met in

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London and PCs Adam Koch and Jean I'm delighted to say we are

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joined by Adam and Jean. Tell us what happened in your

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situation. We were about to do a job in a mosque in the East of

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Birmingham, a report of a man being stabbed and someone being detained

:57:23.:57:26.

in the mosque. We arrived and were shown into a rear entrance. We went

:57:27.:57:30.

in carrying a Taser, we went into the prayer room and we saw at least

:57:31.:57:34.

one person on the floor covered in blood. The offender was sitting on

:57:35.:57:38.

the floor, quite calm, with his back to us. I shouted at him, show me

:57:39.:57:42.

your hands. He turned towards me and started to approach quite rightly, I

:57:43.:57:47.

deployed my Taser but it was not effective. He struck me in the

:57:48.:57:51.

stomach which knocked me to my knees. We had a bit of a wrestle and

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I ended up on top of him on the floor. We managed to disarm him. At

:57:57.:58:00.

that point, Jean pointed out that I had been stabbed and I noticed the

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blood from under my vest, at which point I pulled it back. You did not

:58:06.:58:10.

realise how injured you were. It must have been really hurtful for

:58:11.:58:15.

you, especially to see your partner... Yes, he had stabbed him

:58:16.:58:20.

in the stomach and he went on to his knees and held onto him. He was

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repeatedly stabbing so I could not get a hit in, I managed eventually

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and then we all went down together. But I did believe Adam was probably

:58:30.:58:34.

dead at that time. Thankfully he was not. You have won this award, which

:58:35.:58:38.

is amazing. Well, we'd like to thank all the

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officers from the Police Bravery Thanks also to all

:58:42.:58:44.

our guests this evening, Ashley, You can see Ashley and Amanda

:58:45.:58:48.

in Cuffs in just a few moments, Simon and Mark's book,

:58:49.:58:53.

The Movie Doctors, is out now. We'll be back tomorrrow

:58:54.:58:58.

with Priscilla Presley. Last time I gave her a muffin and

:58:59.:59:08.

she choked. I hope she doesn't remember that! No muffins! See you

:59:09.:59:13.

then. Hello, I'm Elaine Dunkley with

:59:14.:59:20.

your 90-second update. A 16-year-old boy has died

:59:21.:59:22.

after being stabbed at his Aberdeen

:59:23.:59:26.

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