29/03/2016 The One Show

Hello and welcome to The One Show with Alex Jones...

And, joining me tonight because Matt is up to his neck in the lambing

We've got two guests with us - one of whom is a film composer,

so let's give both of them an introduction using some

Tonight we're pleased to present the cinematic maestro who's written

the soundtracks to over 100 Hollywood films.

He's won two Golden Globes, four Grammys and he's

Sharing the sofa is a comedian and West Bromwich Albion fan.

He can play the banjo, and in 1998 he won the Rear

Skinner - Zimmer, Zimmer - Skinner.

Hans wrote the soundtrack to films like Pirates of the Caribbean,

Gladiator, The Lion King, Thelma and Louise the list goes

Basically, everyone that I could think of. I do actually write for

the banjo. I don't actually play the banjo. It's the ukelele!

I absolutely... Everybody has a favourite. Have you got one?

Gladiator. Her voice does things to me, it is so beautiful. She is

amazing. We'll talk more about Gladiator

and all your other films later. But my favourite is the theme from

Going For Gold. # It's time for you,

for you to play your game This is fantastic. It takes you back

to lunchtime. You did this? I absolutely dead. I have no shame. --

absolutely did. The first time I went to Los

absolutely did. The first time I first people I met was a chap that

wrote half of the Michael Jackson albums, Thriller etc. And what was

he going to do? Saying Going For Gold. Henry Kelly, he used to say, I

arrived in London, on the 15th century, on the back of the raft,

what am I? The bubonic plague! Later, Hans will be performing one

of his classic themes. And from music to art,

we'll hear all about Frank's search But first, some

cutting edge science. Remember when the newest craze

in computer games was the motion detectors, meaning we all had to get

up from the sofa and start jumping Well that same technology

is being used in all sorts of revolutionary ways,

not just in gaming, There are more than 750,000

wheelchair users in the UK. Including me. I've been using one of

these for 12 years. It helps me get around quickly and independently. I

am lucky, I can use my arms. But many disabled people have to rely on

others to operate their wheelchair. But now all of that is about to

change, thanks to a revolutionary new wheelchair that is not

controlled by your hands, but by your eyes. This prototype chair is

the brainchild of a neuro technologist from Imperial College

London. We wanted to help people with movement disabilities. Of the 5

million people in the UK who suffer from such disabilities, almost all

have the ability to move their eyes. We wanted to convert seeing into

moving. It was whilst playing a computer game that inspiration

struck. He realised that the cameras on video game consoles, which track

your body movement, can also be used to track your eye movement. One day

I realised there is cheap and video game hardware cameras that we can

transform into cameras that can record eye movement. That is what we

did. To test them, he tried it out on a simple computer game. Two video

cameras lock onto my eye, monitoring were it moves. As I move my eyes, I

am moving the paddle up and down. Essentially, I am playing this

entire game just with my eyes. Seeing is moving! Absolutely

amazing. That was the great breakthrough. But how do you

transfer the movement of a simple paddle into controlling a

wheelchair? To go from a video game to real life, we needed to work out

what I movement 's are meaningful for driving and which are

distracting. You are telling the difference between a glance, looking

at your friend as you are walking down the street, and looking in the

direction you want to travel? After recording and studying irises over a

five-year period, he built up a massive database of eye movements.

He used a complex computer programme to sift through it, ignoring

distracted glances. It is this piece of computer coding that transforms

cheaper video game cameras into a wheelchair control system. So, will

the camera be able to read my eye movements and let me control the

chair? Time to put it to the test. Very amazing! Shall I keep going?

Wow! Isn't it fun? So cool! All I have to do is look in the direction

that I want to go. Signals captured from my eye movement are processed

by a laptop in the back, which controls the motors and direction of

the wheels. There are still some fine tuning to be done. This is the

first time I have ever driven a chair without using my arms. Our

technology allows you to be distracted, having this

conversation, and still move forward, because you want to move

forward. It's really interesting, as I am moving, I am looking around,

but I will also keep going forward at the same time. It is still the

early days of development. This relatively cheap system could be

attached to any motorised wheelchair, improving the lives of

all wheelchair users. Incredible! Brilliant piece of

technology. You are here to appeal to viewers, anybody with an artistic

talent? Tell us about the Sky Arts landscape and portrait Artist of the

Year? I do a show with Dame Joan Bakewell, my hero. Members of the

public send in art, there are two brunches, portrait and landscape. It

is a show I am phenomenally proud of, I would watch it if I was not on

it. Definitely. Thanks for agreeing! It's a beautiful programme. Watching

people paint is fantastic. You can go to art galleries and see the

finished item, but to see it happening, it would be like watching

Hans composing. It is very exciting. We got the portrait artist show, and

the entrants, it closes, it's the 4th of April. The landscape one is

the 15th of April. Imagine how much talent will be watching this show

now. You get 12 million, 15 million? Something like that, yes... Well, it

is Tuesday. There are people out there, please, I want them to enter.

The more people that enter, the better the show. It is they

fantastic, life changing experience. What do they win? They normally get

an enormous commissioned to paint somebody. The first one painted

Hilary Mantell. Christian Hook painted Alan Cumming. One of the

directors of the National Gallery in Scotland brought out a book of 100

masterpieces in Scottish galleries. There were not many modern ones. And

his painting is in that book. It is not about money, but he is now doing

paintings, getting about ?75,000. Because it is a prestigious

competition. That is more than we are getting tonight! You are finding

genuine talent. Painting a landscape is one thing, a portrait, people can

answer back. Well, they get to choose one. If five people line up

and paint a celebrity, we have had Ian McKellen and all sorts of

people. There is a moment when I say, please turn your canvas, they

turn it around and then you see the face of the person. They do their

best to hide horror, disappointment, rage... But you can see it, it is

the corners of the mouth. While they are having the painting done, they

can answer back? Yes. This was a four our competition of storing

apples, your method would be the same? -- painting apples. Yes,

really. I've never been compared to a bowl of Apple 's! The apples are

more straightforward, they don't move... They don't flirt! You stay

out of this! Brilliant. If you need somebody to sit, I'm available. You

would be great! Do you have to be silent? You can talk, as long as you

don't move your lips. You were in the paper, painting a landscape

yourself? I live near Hamstead College of Art. They were having a

big open day and they said, would you do a landscape? I said, I can't

paint. They said, that's great! you do a landscape? I said, I can't

all about everybody joining in. I thought, in the spirit of

all about everybody joining in. I I will. I painted a landscape

painting. We've got it here. Is this the one you painted? I'll

painting. We've got it here. Is this what happened,

painting. We've got it here. Is this of the Camden Journal. I thought my

painting was OK. They of the Camden Journal. I thought my

photoshopped in a better of the Camden Journal. I thought my

That is my hand. We have got the original. It's all right! It's not

terrible... The naive style. The School of infantile art! I know it

looks like a pancake in a field, but at least it's mine. I don't know who

painted the one on the cover of the paper, I apologise if you are

watching. They should enter. I think I should. I have taken some

commissions on the strength of that painting. The Sky Arts Portrait and

Landscape Artist of the Year competition is open now, details are

on the website. Frank apparently first

discovered his love of making people laugh by drawing moustaches

on photos in school art class. It is a tradition that has died out.

We have Hans, me and Anita. Fill your boots! Are you OK with that?

Have you got a grey 14 Hans? Joe has travelled all the way

to Gdansk in Poland to see how an extraordinary team of artists

are creating a movie about one The remarkable artist Vincent Van

Gogh said the truth is that we cannot speak other than by our

paintings. He was an expressionist, a struggling artist who famously cut

off his year in torment. Now his paintings are

off his year in torment. Now his distinct style is going to be used

to create a work about his life. That is why I've come here, to

Gdansk in Poland, where artists from across Europe have been called upon

to create the first ever painted animated film.

to create the first ever painted never something feature length. It

is the brainchild of a Polish painter and director, and British

director Hugh Welchman, he won an Oscar for Best animated Short film

in 2000 and seven. He thought that the story

beautiful and she wanted to bring his stories to life.

beautiful and she wanted to bring UK. Most of the live-action shooting

took place in East London. We shoot the actors on a green screen and

stage, so we can cut them out, compositor them together with

Vincent style backgrounds in the computer. Then we project it onto

the canvases for it to be painted over, frame frame. Unimportant

manlike Van They will go through 3000 litres of

paint to paint the 62,000 frames in the film. We had to create a whole

team from scratch. We could not find animators that had the skills for

doing the painting that we needed. We had to get painters and teach

them enough animation to be able to do the film. One of them is here. On

the right, we have a prepared image. We projected onto the canvas. That

is your guide, for every frame and movement, what happens? The

projector automatically project another frame. So that would be my

next frame to paint, I would have to scrape over those pieces of

shoulders, replace the eyes and nose. How long will it take to get

to the next frame? With one character, plain background, about

one hour and 20 minutes. They have allowed me to have a go.

When I look at yours, I can see confident brushstrokes. That comes

with practice. Trying to connect the highlights with the previous colour.

Will this be part of the film or will you get rid of this? It all

depends! He is going to cut me out! Were not copying Vincent, we are

reimagining his paintings in the medium of film and we currently

halfway through. The film is set to be finished in August and has

attracted a wealth of talent, the cast includes Aidan Turner, sushi

Ronan and Douglas Booth. What did he ever do for us? In this age of

filters on photographs, could you not have done this on a computer?

Several people have said they could do this on a computer and I always

say, show me. People can see the difference, there is something

magical about seeing it moved before your eyes. Vincent had a complete

breakdown after failing at three careers and at the age of 28 he

starts drawing for the first time and within nine years he transforms

modern art and that is an amazing story. I am sure that I will convert

many more people to Vincent through this film. Lovely. I think that I

need to APPLAUSE.

Go on, Frank! That looks like me before I had shaved! I think this

really suits you. Conchita? Rise Like A Phoenix! Something to look

forward to later on! That is how Frank got started.

How did you get started doing film scores?

Because I cannot do anything else. I used to put some fictitious detente

of this, when I was six I started playing music but I started making

noises as far back as I can remember and the operative word is play. And

the advantages are you never have to grow up and I still do what I was

doing as a kid and just so happens I like telling stories. This is a

breakthrough. In terms of Hollywood. It is not Going for Gold again? This

is epic! This is Gladiator. My name is maximus. Commander of the armies

of the North, general of the legions. Loyal servant to the true

emperor, Marcus really is. Father to a murdered son, husband to a

murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance.

APPLAUSE. That is such a memorable piece of

cinema and that rising music adds to the speech at what comes first? The

pictures or the music? It depends. With this one, Ridley Scott phoning

me at nine o'clock in the morning because he knows I am vulnerable, I

don't get up before noon because I am a musician and he said do you

want to do a Gladiator movie and I was laughing, thinking about men in

skirts. And it was just the tone of voice, it is not that sort of

Gladiator. He started telling me the story and that is a great luxury, so

money films, they tell me the story and as they tell me the story I

started hearing songs and we sit down and look at paintings and

especially with somebody like Ridley Scott, an amazing artist. Napkins

getting drawn on. And he literally draws out every single scene. And

once he starts having the right themes and sending them over, the

scene with the Tigers, that was supposed to take just one day and it

took two weeks because the Tigers had gone to sleep! I was like the

entertainment, sending the music. And finally, he moved into my studio

with the editors and we just made it up. We collaborated and made it up.

OK, because the second part of him phoning me that ten o'clock in the

morning, my wife said, what did you talk about? It is a Gladiator movie.

You boys! I suddenly thought, my ambition is going to be that women

will love this movie, it is not just an action movie and we talked about

this a lot. Ridley Scott came up with the idea and I had a number in

Australia, do you want to do this movie? Yes. Who is in it? Russell

Crowe. She said, I cannot do this. We persuaded her anyway and I asked

why she turned us down and she had done another movie, The Insider, and

I was sinking, every time Russell Crowe is on screen, I am singing.

You have done hundreds of films but you are about to do something but

have never done before, touring. How much of a challenge is it,

recreating this epic pieces of music? Absolute madness. Why have I

not done this before? Because I have bad stage fright and it is sort of

impossible but I think I have figured it out. I did a couple of

test runs a couple of years ago that the Hammersmith Apollo. And I had

this very the Hammersmith Apollo. And I had

all friends of mine. Some of the people I started working with 30

years ago. I have got Johnny Marr. It is going to be epic. I will come

to see you, Hans. Please do! Hans will be playing one his famous

pieces from the film Inception in a few minutes time,

and you can see him and his full orchestra on tour

from the 6th April. Now, Dan Donnelly has been

investigating how criminals have been duping innocent

workers into handing It's a bold scam, and it's hitting

British companies hard. Small and medium-sized firms make up

the bulk of UK businesses. Under the combined turnover of some 1500

billion pounds every year, they make a tempting target for cyber crooks.

Scores of UK companies are now being targeted by fraudsters posing as the

bosses of the very companies they are trying to rip off. Diouf employs

60 people at his engineering firm near Hastings in East Sussex. The

company staff are also shareholders so if the business is hit by fraud,

everybody suffers. a couple of years ago with this scam

e-mail saying, change the back account and put it here and it

seemed OK, the names were OK so we sent the money and the turnout not

to be. Being conned out of ?20,000 put the firm on high alert. But the

scammers are persistent. John Staplehurst is the Finance Director.

He is well used to dealing with urgent requests to transfer large

amounts of company money. The e-mail arrived on my computer from the CEO

asking for a payment of ?8,000 to be made that day. As he was working

off-site, John e-mailed David Black. The person asked for the payment

immediately that day. And I said I could not do that without

verification. He could not give me that until later in the day, until

the payment could be made and that made me think that this is not

right. John noticed the e-mail was signed David, something the real

boss never calls himself. And that was sent from an iPhone, Dave does

not own one. John had spotted a new phenomenon, CEO fraud. It has been a

wake-up phenomenon, CEO fraud. It has been a

have lost the company money. Cyber crooks had created an e-mail that

appeared to come from Dave's genuine account. Fake e-mails have been

around for years. But e-mails pretending to be the boss putting

pressure on staff to make payments is something new. And the 40s are

seriously worried. Detective Superintendent Matt Bradford leads

the national fraud intelligence bureau. It has had 1000 reports of

CEO fraud in six months, costing firms ?32 million. In one case a

company in Scotland last ?18 million. That hasn't devastating

impact on the employees, the share million. That hasn't devastating

price, the person said the button is not a victimless crime. To date,

only 1 million of the ?32 million lost to this type of fraud has been

retrieved. What is being done to stop this new breed of corporate

conman? In February, the government set up a new task force of

detectives and financial and computer specialists. The security

minister says it will have CEO fraud in its sights. What is it task force

going to achieve? It will bring people together, government and

businesses, banks, to do our best to confront fraud and resisted. What

are the chances of catching these people? One of the things we will do

is highlight the list of the most serious fraudsters, we want to find

out who they are, where they are coming from and the patterns of

behaviour. Then we can catch and convicted them. Having twice been

targeted by e-mail scammers, John and Dave believe that size is a key

advantage when it comes to spotting the crooks. We are a small company

and we know each other, there is no big command chain and we know

everyone in the company and that is what saved us, relationships.

Thank you, Dan, and thank you to tonight's guests

Richard Madeley will be here tomorrow with Elaine C Smith,

Arabella Weir and Alan Jones. But now over to Hans with one

of the pieces he wrote for the movie Inception,

this is "Time". MUSIC: "Time" by Hans

Zimmer (Instrumental)