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The first day back at school is a stomach-churning experience.

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I used to hate it. There used to seem like

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this interminable stretch in front before the next holidays.

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Oh, it's just desperation and dread.

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We're the Hairy Bikers

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and we both had a tough time when we were at school.

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-And for kids today, it's just as tough.

-Ba-ba-ba!

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There's disruption...

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-I punch stuff, I kick or I throw stuff.

-..bullying...

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They're all saying how much I should kill myself,

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I should jump off a bridge.

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Before you say stuff about someone, you should know more about them.

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..and failure.

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But this struggling school has embarked on a crazy

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and ambitious project

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to transform the lives of young and old alike.

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And we want to help.

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This is like Grange Hill crossed with Last Of The Summer Wine.

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Across town, there's lonely, undervalued and isolated old folk.

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I've lost the knack, if you like.

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What will happen when we bring the quiet and the noisy together?

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Come on, you can do it.

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There we are, darling, ten is up.

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Will they get on?

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They're just as likely to pull a knife out and kill you.

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-Obnoxious, rude.

-White working-class kids are going down the drain.

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They just stay in with their little box TVs and their knitting.

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CHEERING

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-If young and old can win each other over...

-I brought you some flowers.

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-Oh, lovely.

-..could they transform each other?

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With the old stronger...

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-He's a boss, he's a beast.

-..the young brighter...

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..and both happier.

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I've never had a selfie done. And it was lovely.

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Do you think the project is going to work?

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Um, I don't know.

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-ALL:

-Old School!

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Oxford is famous as a city of dreaming spires.

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But a few miles away, in the 1960s, slums were pulled down

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and one of the biggest housing estates in Europe was built.

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We're on our way to Blackbird Leys,

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where nearly half now live under the poverty line.

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At its heart, a struggling school,

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where this bold new experiment pairing kids and pensioners

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from the same background is about to take place.

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I didn't expect it to look like this.

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I mean, it's really rather smart.

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-It's a beautiful building, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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Tomorrow, a new term starts - and hopefully a new beginning.

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First off, we're meeting the headmaster.

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Neil, what's the community's perception of the school?

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The perception of the school, basically, is that

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it's an underperforming school, that behaviour is poor.

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-Do you have a full roll at the school?

-Absolutely not,

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-we are about...approximately 600 undersubscribed.

-Oh, gosh!

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In 2014, just 28% of pupils at the Oxford Academy

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achieved GCSE grades A to C, some of the lowest results in Britain.

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So there is a massive amount riding on this,

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-it's a huge gamble for you, Neil.

-Yes, it is.

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I think it's a huge gamble in terms of the school's future,

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but I believe in the project.

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Like everything, you weigh things up, and I think it's worth the risk.

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I'm visiting Robbie, one of our keenest recruits.

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-Hello, mate, how are you doing?

-How you doing?

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Yeah, good. How are you?

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-I'm doing all right.

-Yeah?

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-Any chance of a cup of tea?

-Oh, why not?

-Go on.

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-How do you take your tea, Dave?

-Oh, just a drop of milk,

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builder's. Thank you very much.

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'Robbie's school attendance isn't good, but he cares for his mum,

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'who has ME, and his three younger sisters.'

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When I'm not at school, mostly it's helping my mum around the house

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and whatever else she needs.

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She'll keep telling me, "Go in, go in, I'll be fine,"

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but I know she's not going to be fine. I can't just leave her.

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So I just start feeling guilty if I go to school, so the majority

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of time now, I will stay and try to help her the best I can.

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It's funny, because I had a similar situation myself.

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My mum was ill, then my dad got ill.

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It was hard going to college and then coming back

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and having to do the shopping and the looking-after, you know?

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With my sisters as well,

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they're quite the handful because there's three of them.

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-Crikey, so you really are the man of the house.

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

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'Rob is a child carer, the same as I was.

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'I kind of understand where he's coming from.

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'My mum and dad both became very ill,

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'and I tried to nurse them both.'

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So obviously, I couldn't go to school. So, was I a truant?

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Well, of course not - I couldn't go to school

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because I had a sense of moral obligation to my family.

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Robbie has five GCSEs, but his recent poor attendance

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means he is in danger of being expelled from sixth form.

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Would your first priority always be your sisters and your mum?

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Yeah, they always come first.

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-You have got a lot on your plate, haven't you?

-Yeah.

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-I mean, that is the bottom line of it.

-I manage.

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I know you manage, but we want more out of life than managing.

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I think you need a few treats yourself.

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Cheers, Robbie, thank you.

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Robbie cares more about other people than himself.

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And if anybody says the stereotypes about selfish teenagers,

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then...they are not all selfish,

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and there is a young man there who isn't.

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-Pleased to meet you.

-And you.

-How are you, you all right?

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I am OK, thank you.

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You've got a good 'un here, haven't you?

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Oh, he's amazing, absolutely amazing.

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-Thanks, Sonia, thank you.

-You're welcome.

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Robbie wants some friendship, guidance and somebody to talk to.

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This project is not just for youngsters, but old people too.

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When we made a TV series about Meals on Wheels,

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we worried many had little to look forward to.

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Now, old and young will pair up to listen to each other's problems

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and hopefully transform their lives.

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Well, because we have got lazy parenting...

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..white working-class kids are going down the drain.

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There seems to be a break in the white working-class attitudes

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to the need to do something.

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We didn't have a choice when we were kids.

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The day after I was 15, you had to have a job.

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Dave worked for years in the local car factory

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and hopes to pass on some of his skills.

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I thought, "Ooh, yeah,

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"I wouldn't mind helping a couple of kids do something."

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They might tell me to bugger off, they might tell me,

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"You don't know nothing, you silly old fool,"

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or something, I don't know.

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Nearly half our pensioners live alone with no-one to turn to,

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many even afraid to go out.

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Rick used to be a supermarket manager.

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I don't go out to play snooker or any of these things any more.

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I've lost interest in, erm...

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..socialising.

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I need to find more interests.

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You can't find an interest in a flat, can you?

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I'm excited about this, it is a completely new experience for me.

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# All we need is somebody to lean on... #

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Morning, everybody.

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Start of the school year, brilliant.

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You've all been bored by the holidays, haven't you?

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Morning, everybody. Good morning, good morning. Jay, how are you?

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Good morning. Ties, please, fellas.

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Welcome back. I hope you had a really brilliant summer.

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Can we welcome Si and Dave?

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You're much better than Jamie Oliver, aren't you?

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-Oh, aye!

-Much better than Jamie Oliver.

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Give them a round of applause

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and they'll come and explain things to you.

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-Thank you.

-Morning, sir and sir.

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Morning. How are you all?

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MURMURED RESPONSES

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Good.

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Well, thank you very much for coming to the assembly.

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It is a very exciting day for us,

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where we kind of properly launch the project Old School.

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-It's never been done in England before.

-No.

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And we believe that Oxford Academy is the perfect place to launch this.

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Because a lot of the elderly people,

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while they can give you a lot, they also want quite a lot from you,

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and we believe that you have got a lot to give them.

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And it's about bringing you both together

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and seeing what you can learn from each other.

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-And I cannot think of a better place to do it.

-Thank you.

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Right, guys, in you come.

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Headmaster Niall has recruited a group of his students

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as guinea pigs for the experiment.

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These students have been selected to take part in the Old School project

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because all 12 of the students have experienced

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some form of difficulties.

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In we come. Last but not least.

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Now, that might be attendance issues, punctuality issues,

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problems outside of school or overall academic underachievement.

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First, the school give our students a self-esteem test.

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At the end of term, they will repeat it to see if they are happier

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and more confident and doing better academically.

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You need to make sure that you read every question

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and then you have got the option of yes or no.

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You need to be as honest as you possibly can with this.

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"Do you feel that you are as happy as others are?"

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"Do you feel as though your family trusts you?"

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Yes.

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I think sometimes we take for granted that our students

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are pretty happy at home and at school, and I think as teachers,

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we don't like to think that they wouldn't feel good about themselves.

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"Are you ever sad?"

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-(Yes.)

-'Self-esteem is a massive barrier to their learning.'

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"Do you have friends you can...confide in?"

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'Last year, 13-year-old Tawne had issues with bullying

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'and missed over a third of her lessons.'

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At one point, everyone in my year group was against me.

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No-one would speak to me, and I was just completely alone.

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My attendance now is at 70%, and it won't go back up,

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because I took a good three months off school.

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"Do you ever get angry?" Yes.

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'Jacub, also in Year 9, must take tablets for his ADHD every morning

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'before he is allowed to come to school.'

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You wouldn't really notice I have got ADHD

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when I take my medication, but you would notice that

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I have got anger issues, because I get really, really angry easily.

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I can be funny sometimes,

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but I end up crossing the line most of the time.

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-TEACHER:

-"Do people like your ideas?"

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No.

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'It seems far-fetched

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'that simple friendships across generations

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'will make a big difference, but research in the US and Japan

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'suggest this can improve the minds and strength of the old

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'and the confidence and exam results of the young.'

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It's the start of a new school day, and Jacub is rushing.

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Late, as usual.

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-Can you take that off the side, please?!

-Sorry!

-Jesus.

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-Don't start with your mouth this morning.

-I'm not, I'm just saying.

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-High five.

-See you later.

-Gimme a high five.

-Give Jacub a high five.

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Yeah.

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-Jacub, no C4s.

-Oh, my days, man.

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Jacub is not supposed to go to school

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unless he has taken medication for his ADHD.

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The reason I wouldn't want to take my medication is because,

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like, two hours after I take it, I feel sick, and I almost be sick.

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When I take it, I am much more calm.

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But I don't like being calmer, because it's not...who I like to be.

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I like to be, like, hyper and energetic.

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Although there's 12 students,

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we've only got half the old people signed up.

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So the kids have been challenged to help find the rest themselves.

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They are already in the art room,

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designing posters to take to the local shopping centre.

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-I'm going to do an egg on mine as well.

-An egg?

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Yeah, an egg, cos it's food.

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-Hairy Bikers - duh!

-Yeah, but this ain't about food, is it?

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Duh(!)

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-Ohhh.

-Ohh.

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-How are you doing?

-Hello. Are you well?

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-Yeah.

-Good.

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-This table, it looks...

-It's a creative table.

-Oh, wow.

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Nice to meet you. Hi, I'm Si.

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Tell you what, hold on, look.

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-Hey, this is great.

-It's brilliant.

-Well done, well done.

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Si, look. There's everything we can get into. Cooking, texting, food...

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YouTube, music, singing, dancing...baking.

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-Well, we can help with that.

-DAVE LAUGHS

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'These kids want help,

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'but they are sceptical about what pensioners have to offer.'

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The things we do and the things they do are completely different.

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They just stay in with their little box TVs and their knitting stuff...

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and we have our big plasma TVs.

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Because they don't really speak to us

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and communicate with us, they probably think

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that we are horrible and we don't want to know them.

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They just sit in all day and tend to avoid other people.

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That's what my nan and gramp do, anyway.

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Do you think they sit in and tend to avoid other people

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or do you think it is because they are actually quite shy and lonely?

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It's like...

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my gramp doesn't understand how to speak to teenagers.

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He will find it quite awkward to start a conversation with us.

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Have you finished your posters and stuff?

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-Are you happy with them?

-Yeah.

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-Great.

-Yeah, smashing.

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The yellow bus. Right.

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'You know what, Kingy? This is definitely more fun.

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'Well, than double maths.'

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What sort of an old person are you hoping to find?

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Someone with a good personality and...

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Someone you can have a really good conversation with

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and they know what you're talking about.

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That's quite important to you, isn't it?

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Yeah. Someone that understands you.

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And someone that...

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Say if you open up to them, they know how you are feeling,

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you can tell them about how your life has been

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and how you want it to turn out and that.

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'As well as his ADHD, Jacub has also been forced to cope with

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'the death of his father eight years ago.'

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We used to always, like, go on my bouncy castles and trampolines,

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swimming pool, we used to always go swimming, bike rides, and then...

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he just died.

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-It's a hard journey, isn't it?

-Yeah.

-Cos my dad died when I was eight.

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And every...

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You're left to deal with everybody

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-who's really sad in the family, aren't you?

-Yeah.

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Because it is not something that you ever think is going to happen,

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-do you?

-No.

-Until you get older.

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Right, we're here!

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'First stop on our recruitment drive - the local shopping centre.'

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Right, hold on, hold on. Coming through, Jacub coming through.

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JACUB LAUGHS

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This is like Grange Hill crossed with Last of the Summer Wine.

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THEY LAUGH

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Right... Oh, brilliant! Look at this.

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Great.

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Let's go.

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'The plan is to divide and conquer.

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'I'm taking Milly, Tawne and Bethany...

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'while Jacub strikes out on his own.'

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But it isn't easy.

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Many of the old people are scared of young antisocial behaviour.

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The teenagers today are too inclined to, shall we say, be violent.

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They're just as likely to pull a knife out and kill you,

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I think it's terrible.

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-We are doing a community project.

-Mm-hmm.

-So it is basically...

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Oh, sorry. Sorry.

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You're all right.

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Maybe another time, maybe another time, but not at the moment, like.

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Working with teenagers is lying around,

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doing nothing, going nowhere.

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Not looking for work.

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Years ago, we had to work to get everything we wanted,

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but these days, they just have it on a plate.

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'And I think we are asking a lot of our old folk.'

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No, sorry, I'm far too busy.

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'They need to commit to a two-hour meeting every week

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'for the entire autumn term.'

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How do you fancy adopting some more grandchildren?

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-No.

-Oh, no, thank you.

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-No?

-No.

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You've got the time, you've got the freedom, you've got the expertise.

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-No, we WANT the time and the freedom, don't we?

-Aww.

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Robbie has had a smart idea.

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He's brought his games console in hope of enticing the oldies...

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with the promise of IT training.

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Heyyy!

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Boom!

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Oh, now I have... WOMAN LAUGHS

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-Oh, God.

-You can have a go.

-No, no.

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'And it seems to be working.'

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That grabs it, and then you lift and chuck.

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-Oh, good heavens.

-Yep.

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-Do you know your number?

-No.

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-You don't?

-WOMAN LAUGHS

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'The offer of practical help with the modern world

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'is striking a chord with the pensioners.'

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MOBILE PHONE CHIMES

0:18:430:18:44

-This is a hello I've sent from your phone.

-Oh, I see.

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-Oh, thank you, dear.

-You're welcome.

-Come on. Oh, me lipstick.

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-And what's your name?

-And even Milly and Tawne have got involved!

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We're both 13 and we're going into Year 9.

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-It was really hard at first, like...

-Yeah.

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..getting the confidence up and gradually getting into it,

0:19:040:19:07

but then we come up with a plan and eventually did it.

0:19:070:19:11

Yeah!

0:19:110:19:14

Bring it in, yeah. Well done.

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Call me a cynical old fella,

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but I didn't think people would sign up,

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especially when confronted in a shopping centre,

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but people have, and people have engaged with it.

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-Did you guys like school?

-Very much.

-I loved it, I loved it.

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It is a week since our trip to the shopping centre,

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and we have signed up all 12 elderly recruits.

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And they are going back to school for the first time in decades.

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I was last at school, I was 15 and a half.

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It was 1964, and I didn't like school,

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and the feeling of going back is actually making my stomach churn.

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It's like going into school and starting school again.

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I am a bit nervous of what the kids will expect of us.

0:20:090:20:12

-Good morning, good morning.

-Are you all right? Give me a hug.

0:20:140:20:18

Good morning, sir.

0:20:180:20:20

-Hello, welcome back to school.

-Yes, nice to be back.

0:20:200:20:22

Hello, love. Welcome to Oxford Academy.

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Trust me. Are we beautiful? Are we beautiful?

0:20:270:20:31

Back to school, eh? How does it feel?

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I can't remember. That was about 70, 75 years ago when I left school.

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By the end of today,

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each of these old folk will be matched to a younger person.

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The success or failure of the entire Old School project

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rests on these pairings hitting it off.

0:20:510:20:54

-Welcome to the Oxford Academy.

-Thank you very much.

0:20:550:20:58

Thank you very much for having us.

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-Hi.

-I'm Vic, pleased to meet you.

-Bethany.

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Hello, pleased to meet you.

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This is Ky, Kyrone, and this is Jacub, and...

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-DAVE AND SI:

-..Kimberly.

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'Ey-up, mate, it's a bit like the first contact in a sci-fi film.

0:21:100:21:15

'It's no wonder, mucker.

0:21:150:21:16

'With an average age gap of 50 years between the two generations,

0:21:160:21:19

'will they even speak the same language?'

0:21:190:21:21

How long have you...? I don't even know

0:21:230:21:26

-what I'm supposed to be saying.

-How long have I...

0:21:260:21:30

-lived?

-I don't know!

0:21:300:21:33

Thank you.

0:21:350:21:37

When we were at school,

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we used to have to take a ration book to get your dinner.

0:21:380:21:41

If we spoke to t'headmaster, it was trouble.

0:21:410:21:44

Listen, times have changed, times have changed.

0:21:440:21:46

-I speak to everybody every day.

-I'm terrified here.

0:21:460:21:50

I promise, I promise, I give you my Scottish word,

0:21:500:21:54

we will look after you.

0:21:540:21:55

-I am overwhelmed by it all.

-No, don't get overwhelmed by it.

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I'm just gobsmacked by it all, never been in the place.

0:22:010:22:06

I feel a bit emotional, actually.

0:22:060:22:08

71-year-old Dave hasn't set foot in a school for over half a century.

0:22:160:22:21

It's wonderful, innit? I mean, everything about it.

0:22:240:22:27

The teachers...

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We couldn't talk to our teachers.

0:22:340:22:36

Christ.

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Do you know, when we were kids,

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if you spoke to a teacher out in the street, you were in trouble.

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I've never been in a school like that.

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I feel so stupid.

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I'm terrified.

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Absolutely terrified.

0:23:000:23:02

Just everything.

0:23:040:23:06

Now, this is the moment we have all been waiting for, really.

0:23:090:23:11

-Yes, this is it.

-Where we meet our future chums.

0:23:110:23:14

I know for us, as Hairy Bikers, when there's two of you,

0:23:140:23:18

-as a team, you are infinitely stronger than two individuals.

-Yeah.

0:23:180:23:23

So, Jamie, we're going to need the two builders over there...

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To get them talking and finding out about each other,

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they start off with some games.

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Then they will pick their favourite partner.

0:23:330:23:36

-This the driver?

-Yeah, that is the driver.

0:23:360:23:38

-The two orange bricks on the second row.

-I can't see what colour it is.

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A man in the front.

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Is there men in the front?

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Facilitator Professor Charles Irvine has organised the games.

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Find yourself a juicy apple to talk to, please.

0:23:520:23:55

He wants everybody to meet everybody,

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because scientists have shown

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you can suss a person out in under a second.

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I'm also a very loyal person.

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I play, like, zombie games and that.

0:24:060:24:09

I've got Dead Rising and Dead Rising 2, and I've got Island of the Dead.

0:24:090:24:13

I stick to watching sport these days and I do collect stamps.

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Everyone draws up a shortlist, and not all can have their first choice.

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Head teacher Niall knows these kids better than anyone,

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and he helps advise on the final pairings.

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When we look at Wezley and David...

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-Perfect.

-Absolutely A1 perfect choice.

-Brilliant.

-OK.

0:24:330:24:37

-Milly is really brilliant.

-Yep.

0:24:390:24:41

But something she needs confidence and a bit of calmness,

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and I think that's perfect too, yeah.

0:24:440:24:46

We're looking at Jacub and Clive.

0:24:470:24:49

-And Jacub, he has a real good vitality.

-Yeah.

0:24:490:24:53

Listen, vitality and energy are two words

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that sum Jacub up, when quite often he's disappearing

0:24:560:24:59

down the corridor and I'm chasing after him.

0:24:590:25:02

OTHERS LAUGH

0:25:020:25:03

You know, Kingy, this genuinely is a big moment.

0:25:060:25:09

Because the names are being put on the seats.

0:25:090:25:12

I just hope with all my heart that nobody looks at the other

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and goes, "Oh, no", and their body language tells disappointment.

0:25:160:25:20

You're never going to be able to dot every I and cross every T.

0:25:200:25:23

Please come inside and find your picture and find your chair.

0:25:230:25:28

Dave!

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With the boxer.

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We would like to introduce you to your new partners.

0:25:320:25:35

What I'd like you to do now, please,

0:25:350:25:37

is start to get to know each other.

0:25:370:25:39

I thought that'd be really nice for you.

0:25:400:25:43

-Thank you.

-You're welcome, you're more than welcome.

0:25:430:25:45

'I've been matched with Tawne, which is absolutely brilliant,

0:25:450:25:48

'because she put me down as her first one as well,

0:25:480:25:50

'because we found it easy to speak.'

0:25:500:25:52

She seemed a bit shy, so I spoke to her and that,

0:25:520:25:55

and that was when she told me she didn't like to come to school

0:25:550:25:58

because she had been bullied, and that's what got to me.

0:25:580:26:02

In those days, people didn't base it off where you come from,

0:26:020:26:05

now you can joke about it.

0:26:050:26:07

'I've been matched with Wezley.'

0:26:070:26:10

And I put his name on the list and he put mine,

0:26:100:26:14

its such a wonderful thing.

0:26:140:26:16

I would have picked him. Yeah, yeah.

0:26:160:26:20

He would be a good son to have, actually.

0:26:200:26:23

Anyway, I'll see you again.

0:26:230:26:25

Well, we have put the relationships together...

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-They're young shoots, they need nurturing.

-They do.

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It's interesting, these characters together -

0:26:350:26:37

the relationships will develop, and we have absolutely no control

0:26:370:26:41

over what's going to happen.

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No, and the big step is, for a while now, they are on their own.

0:26:430:26:47

Three weeks in,

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and our newly formed partnerships are meeting up for the first time.

0:26:520:26:56

What's important is, we've not brought olders in from outside,

0:26:580:27:02

they're from the same community, so they should have plenty in common.

0:27:020:27:06

-Hiya.

-Hi, Bethany.

-I've brought you some flowers.

0:27:060:27:10

Oh, lovely, thank you very much.

0:27:100:27:13

You're welcome.

0:27:130:27:15

Each week, students will be taken out of lessons

0:27:150:27:18

chosen by teachers to minimise disruption to their education.

0:27:180:27:22

This is 1964, look. Oh, I got a B minus there for English.

0:27:220:27:25

Instead, they'll spend an hour with their senior partners,

0:27:250:27:29

who will hopefully get them to talk about their biggest worries,

0:27:290:27:32

ones they can't talk about with their parents and friends.

0:27:320:27:35

-Big school, isn't it?

-It's a massive school.

-Massive, yeah.

0:27:350:27:38

It's end of break,

0:27:410:27:42

and Year 9 Jacub is off to his first partnership meeting.

0:27:420:27:46

-Go on.

-Oi!

0:27:460:27:48

It's on my back, I'm not stupid!

0:27:500:27:53

BELL RINGS

0:27:530:27:54

I'm feeling nervous, because it is my first meeting with Clive

0:27:550:27:58

and I don't know how it's going to go.

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But I'm happy at the same time, because I like Clive as well.

0:28:000:28:04

Jacub's partner Clive joined Old School

0:28:090:28:12

along with his wife Marina.

0:28:120:28:14

They've found life hard

0:28:140:28:16

since they tragically lost their son Matthew to a heroin overdose.

0:28:160:28:20

That's Matthew, erm, just before he died.

0:28:200:28:26

You look at him, you wouldn't think he was on drugs.

0:28:260:28:29

Obviously it affected us quite badly.

0:28:300:28:34

Obviously, you grieve. At the start, it's there and it's happened.

0:28:340:28:39

But then the shock comes later, I think.

0:28:390:28:43

I feel a bit guilty not sort of noticing

0:28:430:28:46

how strong he was into drugs.

0:28:460:28:49

Well, it is the reason I went into the Old School project.

0:28:490:28:53

Perhaps it would help me with the loss of Matthew

0:28:530:28:57

if I could help someone to go down the right path.

0:28:570:29:02

Good morning, I'm here to see Jacub.

0:29:020:29:05

There you go.

0:29:050:29:06

-Hello.

-Hello.

0:29:080:29:10

-Hello, Jacub.

-All right, Clive?

-How are you?

-Good, you?

0:29:100:29:14

-Yeah.

-I'm going to take you round for a tour of the school.

-Ahh.

0:29:140:29:17

Miss, can you buzz us out, please?

0:29:190:29:21

-Thank you!

-Where we going this morning, then?

0:29:220:29:25

Dunno, probably just take you to the C4 room,

0:29:250:29:27

cos that's where I spent most of my time in Year 7.

0:29:270:29:29

I was always getting C4-ed and I was always getting in trouble.

0:29:290:29:32

What does the C stand for then?

0:29:320:29:34

I don't know, really, it's like detention.

0:29:340:29:37

it's like a sanction, basically.

0:29:370:29:39

-Yeah.

-Hello, Jenny.

-Hello.

0:29:390:29:41

Don't worry, I haven't got a C4.

0:29:410:29:43

If you get a C4 you have to sit in one of these cubicles,

0:29:430:29:45

-which is boring.

-That's the whole point of it.

0:29:450:29:48

You have to sit here and just do your work, bored.

0:29:480:29:50

You have to face there, bored.

0:29:500:29:52

13-year-old Milly is also meeting her partner

0:29:560:29:59

for the first time today.

0:29:590:30:00

Milly has been paired up with Janey, a writer and former foster mother.

0:30:020:30:06

-Hi.

-Good morning, Milly.

0:30:100:30:13

Well, this is awkward.

0:30:210:30:23

-INTERVIEWER: What do you want to say to Janey?

-I don't know.

0:30:270:30:30

-What do you normally say when you meet someone?

-Nothing.

0:30:330:30:37

'This is a bad start. Learning mentor Julie tries to help.'

0:30:400:30:45

-What's the matter?

-It's winding me up, I don't want to do it.

0:30:460:30:48

-Who is winding you up?

-This whole thing,

0:30:480:30:51

it's just stupid, I don't want to do this any more.

0:30:510:30:53

Do you want to come and talk for a minute?

0:30:530:30:55

I want to go to my lessons. I don't want to do this.

0:30:550:30:59

OK, do you still want to come and talk for a minute? Come on.

0:30:590:31:04

MILLY SIGHS

0:31:040:31:05

71-year-old Dave is here for the first meeting with Wezley.

0:31:080:31:12

Meeting young people is a little bit daunting for somebody my age.

0:31:140:31:18

Sorry to trouble you, I wonder if you could tell me

0:31:180:31:21

where Wezley is, please?

0:31:210:31:22

Just hold on there, I will just have a little look at his timetable.

0:31:220:31:26

Worst thing I think could happen is, I will make a mess of it.

0:31:260:31:31

That I won't be able to respond, because I'm deaf,

0:31:310:31:34

which doesn't help.

0:31:340:31:35

Dave's partner is 16-year-old Wezley, who has a passion.

0:31:370:31:41

Boxing means everything to me, my dream is to be very successful.

0:31:440:31:50

Hopefully turn professional one day.

0:31:500:31:54

At school, Wezley is always getting into scrapes.

0:31:580:32:01

Last year, he was excluded for six days.

0:32:010:32:04

I have always been in trouble.

0:32:040:32:06

I have always been the aggressor in school.

0:32:060:32:08

I was always going around hitting people,

0:32:080:32:11

because of short temper, short attention span.

0:32:110:32:14

He's trying to turn things around,

0:32:140:32:16

but his challenge is balancing school life with his boxing dreams.

0:32:160:32:21

My biggest fear for the future is that if I don't do boxing,

0:32:210:32:24

then nothing is going to turn out for me and I won't be successful.

0:32:240:32:28

-Hello, Wezley.

-How you going, all right?

0:32:290:32:31

Thanks for being so quick, I appreciate that.

0:32:310:32:34

It was only a week ago on pairing day

0:32:350:32:37

that Dave was overwhelmed at how schools have changed since his day.

0:32:370:32:41

What we get is, we get a timetable where there's a piece of paper

0:32:420:32:47

and it tells you what classroom you are in, what time it is...

0:32:470:32:52

So it's scheduled for you from the school, as it were?

0:32:520:32:55

-Scheduled from the school, yeah.

-Ah.

0:32:550:32:57

Right, I'm going to take you to drama,

0:32:580:33:00

because that's one of my best lessons ever.

0:33:000:33:03

I have never, ever got a C4 in that lesson.

0:33:030:33:05

But the reason I like it is, I am in a school play now,

0:33:050:33:08

-I am in Romeo and Juliet.

-I wouldn't have thought

0:33:080:33:10

-you would have liked drama.

-I love it.

0:33:100:33:12

It is one of the best lessons ever, it is one of the best rooms ever.

0:33:120:33:16

Talking and sharing might not seem a lot,

0:33:170:33:19

but these are important first steps in building the confidence

0:33:190:33:22

and trust that can lead to dramatic improvements for old and young.

0:33:220:33:27

This is one of the scripts that we're doing. I'm Tybalt.

0:33:270:33:31

But I get killed off!

0:33:310:33:32

-Who are you, Ty...?

-I get killed off, it's not fair.

-Aww.

0:33:320:33:36

-I get stabbed.

-How long does your part last?

0:33:360:33:39

I've only got, like, a few lines,

0:33:390:33:42

-because I get killed halfway through.

-Ahh.

0:33:420:33:44

That's why I wanted to be Romeo, because I'd get most of the lines.

0:33:440:33:47

-Yeah.

-It's good though.

0:33:470:33:48

-I like it.

-That's brilliant.

0:33:480:33:50

-I'm nervous about the play, though.

-How do you find learning the words?

0:33:520:33:56

-Your script?

-We do it in the old-fashioned language as well.

0:33:560:34:01

I can read them, but I don't really know what they mean.

0:34:010:34:04

I know that "thou" means "you".

0:34:040:34:06

I just read from the script because I don't know what the words mean.

0:34:060:34:09

-Yeah, but that's how they spoke in those days, isn't it?

-Yeah.

0:34:090:34:12

They used to swear as well, spit in their thumb and go like that...

0:34:120:34:15

-And go like that with their thumb.

-Oh, was that like a swear word?

0:34:150:34:20

Yeah, it's eff you, basically.

0:34:200:34:22

-Oh, is it?

-What phrase did you use when you were a kid?

0:34:220:34:24

Because we use phrases now, like, say if we're going to

0:34:240:34:27

hit someone, we say, "Oh, we're going to bang him",

0:34:270:34:29

or, "We're going to spark him in his face."

0:34:290:34:31

-Spark him?

-Yeah, we mean, like, hit him in his face,

0:34:310:34:33

because that's how we talk now,

0:34:330:34:34

I don't know how used to say it when you were kids.

0:34:340:34:37

Yeah, we didn't have this new-fashioned...

0:34:370:34:40

Like you lot, sparking... Just, you'd say, "I'm going to thump you."

0:34:400:34:44

Thank you so much for taking me round, Wezley.

0:34:460:34:50

-That's really marvellous.

-Thank you.

0:34:500:34:52

For our partners to bond, they need to find common ground.

0:34:520:34:55

I went to see Cassius in the Cooper fight.

0:34:550:34:59

-Oh, did you?

-Yeah, cos Henry Cooper I used to know very well.

0:34:590:35:02

-Did you?

-Yeah. Cooper twins, yeah.

-No way.

0:35:020:35:05

Jesus, I didn't know that.

0:35:060:35:08

I chose Dave on my sheet in the first place

0:35:080:35:11

because he mentioned something about how he used to box, and I think

0:35:110:35:16

that if someone used to box, then you can relate to them that way.

0:35:160:35:20

The thing is, Wezley, I have got to ask you certain things,

0:35:200:35:23

because we're mates now. You take me as a mate, don't you?

0:35:230:35:26

I class you as a mate, David, why not?

0:35:260:35:28

Well, what do you want to do long-term?

0:35:280:35:32

Well, it has to be involved with boxing, of course,

0:35:320:35:36

so maybe a boxing promoter, I don't know.

0:35:360:35:38

-I'd like to promote.

-A sports promoter.

-Sports promotion, yes.

0:35:380:35:43

They are all good things, but you've got to have...

0:35:430:35:46

My life has taught me something different.

0:35:460:35:49

-What you have got to have is a backstop.

-Yeah.

0:35:490:35:52

Because life has got a funny habit of coming along

0:35:520:35:54

and smacking you straight in the face.

0:35:540:35:57

So did you have dreams when you were younger?

0:35:570:35:59

I had dreams of everything.

0:35:590:36:01

My dreams had to change, like yours do, every six months.

0:36:010:36:04

-Mine never change.

-Well, they will.

0:36:040:36:07

Things will change for you.

0:36:070:36:09

I spoke to Wez on the basis of my normal approach, which...

0:36:090:36:16

I call it tough love.

0:36:160:36:18

I hope that I have been able to influence him enough to make choices

0:36:180:36:21

which are beneficial to him and the people around him.

0:36:210:36:26

We're not middle class, we're working class, that's my hang-up.

0:36:270:36:33

You ain't got a rich daddy to fall back on,

0:36:330:36:36

and you've got to have something that feeds you.

0:36:360:36:39

Cos boxing doesn't feed you.

0:36:400:36:42

I felt a bit heartbroken, because I actually joined this project

0:36:440:36:48

because I wanted positive advice towards my goals.

0:36:480:36:52

So I felt a bit like I didn't want to get involved with

0:36:520:36:55

the project any more, I wanted to quit.

0:36:550:36:58

What about maths? Are you any good at maths?

0:37:000:37:03

Well, I've got ADHD and that,

0:37:030:37:05

I can't sit down for more than five minutes in maths without fidgeting.

0:37:050:37:08

I can, like, write some of them.

0:37:080:37:09

Once I've finished writing something,

0:37:090:37:11

I end up turning around, like, messing around.

0:37:110:37:13

If they say I can go outside for five minutes to calm down,

0:37:130:37:15

yeah, that's fine.

0:37:150:37:16

But if they keep me into the lesson, I end up getting into trouble.

0:37:160:37:20

Like, if I take my medication, yeah, I'm fine.

0:37:200:37:23

But, like, if I don't take it, I'm like a rocket.

0:37:230:37:25

I'm bouncing off everything.

0:37:250:37:26

So you lose your temper if you don't have your medicine? You lose it?

0:37:260:37:29

If I take my medicine, then I don't need my anger as quick.

0:37:290:37:32

If I don't take it I'm like,

0:37:320:37:34

I can go from happy to angry in a matter of seconds.

0:37:340:37:36

I punch stuff, I kick stuff, I throw stuff.

0:37:360:37:39

If I take my medicine, I can be, like, a really nice person.

0:37:390:37:41

If I get angry and I take my medication,

0:37:410:37:43

I calm down, like, straight after.

0:37:430:37:44

That's why the school refused to have me in school

0:37:440:37:47

if I don't take my medication.

0:37:470:37:49

I would like to talk to Jacub more about this ADHD

0:37:490:37:53

and try and help him.

0:37:530:37:54

Erm...

0:37:540:37:56

But I think that would be, you know, later on down the line,

0:37:560:37:59

when we've got to know each other a little better.

0:37:590:38:02

Yeah, cheers for coming, anyway. I can't wait till next time.

0:38:020:38:04

-Well, it's nice to see you again, Jacub.

-I can't wait till next time.

0:38:040:38:07

I'm looking forward to it.

0:38:070:38:08

And look at Jacub. He just chats away. I can't do that.

0:38:090:38:13

I don't know what to say or anything, so I don't want to do it.

0:38:130:38:16

-So you're generally struggling?

-Yeah.

0:38:160:38:18

-See you next time.

-Yeah, see you.

-Take care.

0:38:190:38:21

DAVE: 'Jacub and Clive's meeting seems a success.

0:38:210:38:24

'But it's a different story for Janie and Milly.'

0:38:240:38:28

I don't want to do this.

0:38:310:38:33

It's annoying me now.

0:38:330:38:36

Milly's pulled out of Old School

0:38:360:38:39

which, as far as I know, means I have, too.

0:38:390:38:42

I feel quite sad,

0:38:420:38:44

because I was looking forward to getting to know Milly.

0:38:440:38:47

'The pensioners, like the kids, will be monitored.

0:38:590:39:02

'Dr Carol Holland of the Research Centre for Healthy Ageing

0:39:020:39:06

'is doing the tests.'

0:39:060:39:07

-Any word beginning with "P".

-Yeah.

-OK.

0:39:090:39:11

'Studies show getting out and forming new relationships

0:39:130:39:15

'can boost health and mental agility in older people.'

0:39:150:39:19

So squeeze as hard as you can when you're ready.

0:39:200:39:24

'These tests will be repeated in 12 weeks' time

0:39:240:39:27

'to see if there are any signs of improvement.'

0:39:270:39:29

-Hi, there. Hi, Dave, you're next.

-I'm next?

0:39:290:39:32

-Thank you.

-Come on in.

0:39:320:39:33

'In the spirit of partnership,

0:39:330:39:35

'I've decided to give the tests a go.'

0:39:350:39:38

So that was a very nice walking speed there.

0:39:380:39:40

-Oh, I do do good walking.

-You do. Yeah, that's very good walking.

0:39:400:39:43

Ready, and go.

0:39:430:39:45

'Along with measuring my walking speed, I'm doing a sit-to-stand...'

0:39:460:39:50

Brilliant. I'll make a note of that.

0:39:500:39:52

'..and the grip strength test.'

0:39:540:39:56

Just squeeze as hard as you can.

0:39:560:39:58

So release.

0:39:580:39:59

My mother used to say, when I was a baby, I had stranglers' hands.

0:39:590:40:03

'Carol also does cognitive tests.'

0:40:050:40:07

I'm going to read you some words

0:40:070:40:09

and, for each word,

0:40:090:40:11

I want you to think of a memory that that reminds you of.

0:40:110:40:14

The first word is board.

0:40:140:40:16

Board...

0:40:160:40:17

I always remember we used to have a teacher at school called Mr Eales.

0:40:170:40:22

'Our senior partners need to associate each cue word

0:40:220:40:25

'with a specific and detailed memory.'

0:40:250:40:27

..and I can just see Mr Eales' chalk scratching against the blackboard.

0:40:270:40:30

OK.

0:40:300:40:32

'The more detailed your memories,

0:40:320:40:34

'the more of yourself you communicate

0:40:340:40:35

'and the better chance you'll have of forming relationships.'

0:40:350:40:38

The only thing I can think of to do with board is...

0:40:400:40:43

most probably a board meeting.

0:40:430:40:45

The next one is nervous.

0:40:450:40:47

I think I was very nervous on the first day of this project...

0:40:470:40:52

Right. Yeah.

0:40:520:40:53

-..when I came along, because I wasn't sure what to expect.

-Yeah.

0:40:530:40:55

-So I guess I was pretty nervous that day.

-Yeah. OK.

0:40:550:40:58

'The reason memory is really important is that we use it.

0:40:580:41:01

'We use it all the time.'

0:41:010:41:02

So if you meet somebody new, you're talking about yourself,

0:41:020:41:05

you're explaining who you are

0:41:050:41:07

to this new friend that you've just met.

0:41:070:41:09

Which, of course, is what our teenagers

0:41:090:41:11

and our older people are all doing.

0:41:110:41:13

In this particular project,

0:41:130:41:14

if people are doing a lot more communication and socialising,

0:41:140:41:18

then we would expect this kind of memory to improve over time.

0:41:180:41:23

'Socialising may help but, if you're living on your own,

0:41:250:41:29

'you don't meet people.

0:41:290:41:31

'That's where this project could make all the difference.

0:41:310:41:34

'Rick has lived entirely alone

0:41:350:41:37

'since the break-up of his family ten years ago.'

0:41:370:41:39

I do miss socialising.

0:41:410:41:43

I really do miss socialising, but...

0:41:430:41:45

..I've lost the knack, if you like.

0:41:470:41:50

-TV:

-So the wedding dress has been around for hundreds of years.

0:41:500:41:54

And it's certainly changed...

0:41:540:41:55

I will watch TV from sort of five o'clock until ten, 11 o'clock maybe.

0:41:550:42:00

That's it.

0:42:010:42:03

Day over.

0:42:030:42:05

-INTERVIEWER:

-What's life like?

0:42:060:42:08

Is it fair to use the word "lonely"?

0:42:080:42:10

Yeah. Yeah.

0:42:120:42:14

DAVE: 'Today he's going out to meet his partner Robbie,

0:42:170:42:20

'who I met at the start.'

0:42:200:42:22

Robbie's 16 and I'm coming up 66.

0:42:230:42:27

So, again, there's that large age difference between us.

0:42:270:42:32

It might turn out that we have got nothing in common whatsoever.

0:42:340:42:37

The worst-case scenario would be that Robbie...

0:42:380:42:42

..doesn't want to know.

0:42:430:42:44

'But Katie, who sets up all the meetings, has some bad news.'

0:42:460:42:50

-Hello, Rick. It's Katie. How are you?

-You all right?

0:42:510:42:55

I'm good, thank you.

0:42:550:42:56

Now, I'm afraid Robbie's not in today.

0:42:560:42:59

-He's unwell.

-Oh.

0:42:590:43:00

Erm, yes. So I'm really sorry.

0:43:000:43:03

We're going to have to arrange another time. Is that all right?

0:43:030:43:06

Yeah, that's fine.

0:43:060:43:07

I was looking forward to this afternoon.

0:43:070:43:10

Erm...

0:43:100:43:12

And...yeah, disappointed for him, disappointed for me.

0:43:120:43:16

So I'll just go home, cook my tea,

0:43:180:43:21

which is going to be a bit earlier than I thought it was going to be,

0:43:210:43:24

watch a bit of snooker or whatever's on TV.

0:43:240:43:27

-SI:

-'It's easy to assume young and old are poles apart.

0:43:310:43:35

'But they often have struggles in common.

0:43:350:43:37

'Retired nurse Judy knows just what it's like to be bullied.

0:43:370:43:42

When I was at school, I was bullied badly.

0:43:420:43:44

When I was bullied, I lost my confidence.

0:43:450:43:48

I lost everything.

0:43:480:43:49

It made me sort of go inside myself.

0:43:490:43:52

I felt so sick that I would do anything not to go to school.

0:43:530:43:58

I want to try and help children that are bullied

0:43:590:44:01

to bring themselves out of themselves

0:44:010:44:04

and tell them they're worth it.

0:44:040:44:05

'Today she's come to meet Tawne for the first time.'

0:44:060:44:10

Hello. Hi, there. Is Tawne here yet?

0:44:100:44:12

'I felt I'd really connect with Tawne

0:44:120:44:15

'because we've got so much in common.

0:44:150:44:17

'She was bullied at school.'

0:44:180:44:20

-If you just take a seat.

-Thank you.

0:44:230:44:26

'Tawne's missed a lot of school.'

0:44:260:44:28

She said that she felt that she couldn't cope with school.

0:44:280:44:32

And she even felt sick and didn't want to come.

0:44:320:44:36

I'm really excited about meeting her and talking to her

0:44:360:44:40

and spending some time with her.

0:44:400:44:42

Really excited about that.

0:44:420:44:44

I'm really sorry, but Tawne is not in today.

0:44:480:44:51

-She's actually off sick.

-Oh.

0:44:510:44:53

-Erm, so probably might have to rearrange.

-Right.

0:44:530:44:57

How disappointing.

0:44:580:45:00

Can we just make a note of your name?

0:45:000:45:02

It's Judy Watson.

0:45:020:45:04

'Yeah, it is hard not to take it personally.'

0:45:140:45:16

The very first meet and she's not here.

0:45:180:45:20

And I just think,

0:45:200:45:22

"Oh, God, she's probably changed her mind or she doesn't want to do it."

0:45:220:45:27

I'm worried that it's going to all fall flat.

0:45:320:45:34

But if anything needs to happen, it always happens to me.

0:45:340:45:38

Anything goes wrong, it's always me.

0:45:380:45:41

'It just seems really upsetting.

0:45:440:45:46

'I just have to wait and see what happens next week.'

0:45:460:45:49

-SI:

-'We always knew that pairing old and young would be tough.

0:45:550:46:00

'But things are not going well.'

0:46:000:46:03

There's a no-show there and Judy is taking that personally.

0:46:030:46:07

And that one is already dead in the water.

0:46:080:46:11

-So I'll turn these over, then.

-Yeah.

0:46:110:46:12

I mean, David seems intent on dashing Wezley's dreams.

0:46:150:46:18

And Robbie and Rick...

0:46:200:46:21

You know, Robbie just hasn't...

0:46:210:46:23

-stepped up to the plate.

-No.

0:46:230:46:25

There has to be an investment on both parties

0:46:250:46:27

or it's simply not going to work.

0:46:270:46:29

Because, at the minute, we haven't got that.

0:46:290:46:31

And I'm not entirely sure with the ones that are going a bit wrong

0:46:310:46:34

whether the personality types are actually capable

0:46:340:46:37

of making that relationship work.

0:46:370:46:39

Are the relationships worth pursuing in that case?

0:46:390:46:42

What do we do? Do we try and mould them?

0:46:420:46:44

Do we try and make them work or we just let go?

0:46:440:46:47

We're intervening in lives at crucial moments

0:46:470:46:51

and at crucial points.

0:46:510:46:53

And that's what I care about.

0:46:530:46:54

We can't get that wrong.

0:46:540:46:56

Full stop.

0:46:560:46:57

We can't get that wrong.

0:46:570:46:58

And we'll need all the support and help

0:46:580:47:00

that we can get from educational professionals,

0:47:000:47:03

from people like Niall McWilliams, who know their subject.

0:47:030:47:06

-I'm going to be really straight with you.

-Yep. Good.

0:47:080:47:12

I...

0:47:120:47:14

am concerned...

0:47:140:47:16

-Yes.

-..that we've had four relationships

0:47:160:47:19

-that haven't particularly worked.

-Yeah. Yeah.

0:47:190:47:21

Have we done something that's just not achievable here?

0:47:210:47:23

Have we backed a wrong 'un? What's your take on it?

0:47:230:47:26

-Yes, there has been a 33%, 35% drop-off, whatever it is.

-Right.

0:47:260:47:31

But then that would be really easy for us all to give up, isn't it?

0:47:310:47:35

So, therefore, what we've got to do is, we believe it's important,

0:47:350:47:39

therefore, we continue and continue and continue.

0:47:390:47:41

I don't think that we need to look at the 30% drop-off rate,

0:47:410:47:45

because they might very well come back.

0:47:450:47:47

Let's celebrate that 70% success rate

0:47:470:47:51

and go forward from there.

0:47:510:47:53

-SI:

-'OK, but we're now a month in.'

0:47:540:47:56

'We can't have any more failures.'

0:47:560:47:59

DAVE: 'Wez's relationship with Dave got off to a prickly start.

0:48:070:48:11

'Wez opened up about his dream of boxing professionally,

0:48:120:48:16

'only for Dave to tell him he should think about a day job instead.'

0:48:160:48:20

I didn't like what he said.

0:48:210:48:23

I think he needs to come and watch me

0:48:230:48:26

before he starts, you know, saying I need a trade.

0:48:260:48:29

He's quite a negative person, to be honest.

0:48:310:48:34

But hopefully, I can change his mind.

0:48:340:48:36

When I was a kid, a lot of the lads out of the Navy and all that

0:48:370:48:40

that came to show us, were originally bare-fist boxers.

0:48:400:48:44

They weren't boxers who had gloves.

0:48:440:48:46

We couldn't afford gloves. We had to share them.

0:48:460:48:48

When I box, nothing else matters.

0:48:560:49:00

I feel like I'm on top of the world and I'm invincible.

0:49:000:49:03

Nobody can beat me.

0:49:030:49:04

-What is he like as a boxer?

-He is good, yeah.

0:49:100:49:13

He's a good boxer, as opposed to a scrapper, is he?

0:49:130:49:15

He's dedicated, which a lot of kids are not.

0:49:150:49:17

If we could somehow get him to win a title or two,

0:49:190:49:23

then England looked at him and he'd maybe go up on the England squad,

0:49:230:49:27

then it just takes off.

0:49:270:49:29

Is he good enough for that?

0:49:290:49:31

Yeah. Yeah.

0:49:310:49:33

Anything I can do to help him?

0:49:340:49:37

He's at a vulnerable age now.

0:49:370:49:39

-He needs a bit of stability in his life.

-Yeah, he does.

0:49:390:49:42

-And he's not really getting it.

-We'll help.

0:49:420:49:45

Well done. Well done.

0:49:490:49:51

Now, how do you feel about that bout?

0:49:510:49:53

-Could have been better.

-No.

0:49:530:49:56

You've got a good left. You come in second with your left.

0:49:570:50:00

I was just saying, on points, he would have got it.

0:50:010:50:04

On points, Wez would have got it. There's no doubt about it.

0:50:060:50:09

He'd have won that bout.

0:50:090:50:11

He's got something extra.

0:50:150:50:17

Really, really has got something extra.

0:50:170:50:19

I'm so proud of him.

0:50:190:50:21

Seeing him tonight is a totally different Wez.

0:50:210:50:25

And the nice thing was I could see in his eyes that he knew I cared.

0:50:260:50:29

He showed me that he was better than I thought he was.

0:50:310:50:34

I dismissed him and I shouldn't have ever done that.

0:50:350:50:38

He's given me something tonight. He really has.

0:50:380:50:42

He's made me feel good.

0:50:420:50:44

And it's...

0:50:440:50:45

I haven't felt that good for a very long time about young people.

0:50:450:50:50

And to have a young person that's...

0:50:500:50:52

not long known me give me that sort of...

0:50:520:50:55

-My favourite man.

-All right, mate?

-All right?

0:50:550:50:58

..that sort of a kick, that sort of a value...

0:50:580:51:01

I can't, just can't explain it.

0:51:030:51:05

DAVE: 'Wez and Dave's relationship is now on firm ground.'

0:51:070:51:10

-SI:

-'But Judy and Tawne, on the other hand,

0:51:120:51:14

'still haven't even had their first meeting.'

0:51:140:51:17

'Last week, Tawne failed to show up, leaving Judy deeply upset.'

0:51:190:51:24

I came this morning with sort of bated breath thinking,

0:51:250:51:28

"Oh, gosh, is she coming today? Is she all right?"

0:51:280:51:32

And you just don't know, you know?

0:51:320:51:35

But, erm, I hope she's here, anyway.

0:51:350:51:38

So we just wait and see.

0:51:390:51:41

-Hiya.

-Hello, Tawne!

0:51:440:51:46

-How are you?

-I'm doing good.

0:51:460:51:48

Are you feeling a lot better than you did last week?

0:51:480:51:50

-A lot better, yeah.

-Oh, fantastic. I was worried about you.

0:51:500:51:54

-SI:

-'Last year, Tawne had a tough time with severe bullying.'

0:51:550:51:58

Everyone was calling me names.

0:52:000:52:02

People would follow me from school and throw stuff at me.

0:52:020:52:06

And I'd be, like, scared to walk between certain lessons,

0:52:060:52:09

walk by myself.

0:52:090:52:10

It made me be feel like no-one wanted to be around me,

0:52:100:52:13

like I was just completely, like, invisible.

0:52:130:52:16

'For Tawne, the bullying didn't stop at the school gates

0:52:190:52:22

'and the abuse continued online.'

0:52:220:52:25

Cyber bullying is the worst that it can get.

0:52:250:52:29

They were talking to themselves,

0:52:290:52:30

saying how much I should kill myself, I should jump off a bridge.

0:52:300:52:33

'It drove her to drastic ends.'

0:52:340:52:37

I was basically cutting myself.

0:52:370:52:39

I felt inside that, like, this was something

0:52:390:52:42

that I could do with myself

0:52:420:52:43

that she couldn't do to me.

0:52:430:52:45

And, like, I could do it and, like, I would overpower her in a way.

0:52:450:52:48

Like, I could do this and she couldn't.

0:52:480:52:51

This is just the art block.

0:52:520:52:55

'Tawne can now finally give Judy her school tour

0:52:550:52:57

'and has chosen to focus on the art department

0:52:570:53:00

'and to show one of her works.'

0:53:000:53:02

This... That one right there

0:53:020:53:04

with all, like, the black coming up.

0:53:040:53:07

Oh...!

0:53:070:53:08

I was really wary about what she was going to say about it

0:53:080:53:11

because of the particular topic that was on.

0:53:110:53:14

Whether she'd, like, in a way judge me for it.

0:53:140:53:17

I think that is absolutely fantastic.

0:53:230:53:25

You've done a really good job.

0:53:260:53:28

-You should be proud of yourself.

-Thank you.

0:53:290:53:31

It was all about bullying, razor blades and tears.

0:53:330:53:37

It was very, very sad to see a girl of that age

0:53:370:53:40

doing a picture like that.

0:53:400:53:42

I felt that this was...

0:53:440:53:46

this was asking for help.

0:53:460:53:48

DAVE: 'Jacub's also facing his demons.

0:53:550:53:57

'Today, he forgot to take his medication

0:53:580:54:00

'and now has been thrown out of his lesson for being disruptive.'

0:54:000:54:04

You know, I walked out the door, slammed it open,

0:54:050:54:07

I started punching the wall.

0:54:070:54:09

It's just annoying.

0:54:120:54:14

Because every other time they think it's me

0:54:140:54:16

and they always blame it on me.

0:54:160:54:17

I kick off and they end up giving me a C4.

0:54:170:54:19

It's like they always pick on me

0:54:190:54:21

because they know I'm going to lose my temper.

0:54:210:54:23

I think I might talk to Clive

0:54:270:54:30

about how to stop, like, losing my temper so quick

0:54:300:54:33

and how to stop...

0:54:330:54:36

getting so angry, like, really easy.

0:54:360:54:38

Right, everybody can go.

0:54:380:54:40

'Jacub often refuses to listen to his teachers.

0:54:470:54:50

'But can Clive help?'

0:54:500:54:52

'Getting into big trouble at school is something Clive knows all about.'

0:54:540:54:58

I was a bit like Jacub. Erm...

0:54:580:55:01

I did have a short temper.

0:55:010:55:04

Being mixed race, kids always called you names or said silly things,

0:55:050:55:10

like "blacky" and "get back to the jungle" and that sort of thing.

0:55:100:55:13

And that... You know, that really got me then.

0:55:130:55:16

But I always stood up for myself and get into fights.

0:55:160:55:21

And I had the cane a couple of times.

0:55:210:55:24

He said, "Jacub, get outside now." Like, shouting at me.

0:55:240:55:26

So then I threw my chair onto the floor,

0:55:260:55:29

I went to the door and punched the door open

0:55:290:55:31

-and then went outside and started punching the wall and that.

-Hm...

0:55:310:55:35

-It's a matter of control, then, isn't it?

-Yeah.

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You know, because it only makes you feel worse.

0:55:380:55:40

Did you have to apologise or...?

0:55:400:55:43

Yeah, I had to go and apologise to the teacher.

0:55:430:55:45

Then I walked off and got a book.

0:55:450:55:48

-So you sort of learned your lesson a little bit?

-Yeah.

0:55:480:55:51

DAVE: 'Seeing Jacub getting into trouble

0:55:530:55:56

'brings back unhappy memories for Clive. '

0:55:560:55:58

My son, he got in with a crowd.

0:56:000:56:03

It was drugs and...

0:56:030:56:05

Then one thing led to another.

0:56:050:56:07

The soft drugs turned to heroin.

0:56:070:56:09

And, you know, it killed him, anyway.

0:56:090:56:13

Jacub's 13 years old.

0:56:150:56:17

And he's reaching that point where he can go either way.

0:56:170:56:21

If he takes the left fork, you know, it could be disastrous.

0:56:210:56:25

If he takes the right fork, then that's the right way to go.

0:56:250:56:28

And, you know, perhaps I can help him, give him some advice,

0:56:300:56:34

some experience that, you know, "Jacub, take the right fork."

0:56:340:56:38

-SI:

-'Our first month is up.

0:56:480:56:50

'Most partnerships have just about made it through.

0:56:500:56:54

'You can see trust developing

0:56:540:56:56

'and signs that they're going to be good for each other.'

0:56:560:56:59

DAVE: 'Oh, boy, hasn't it been emotional?

0:56:590:57:02

'And we've only just started.'

0:57:020:57:04

-Whoa!

-He-he-heee!

0:57:040:57:07

I tell you what, man, this has got to be the scariest,

0:57:070:57:11

most bonkers, up and down, emotionally draining journey

0:57:110:57:16

-we've ever been on.

-Oh, I feel as though I've been through a mincer.

0:57:160:57:19

-I mean, there's been laughter, tears, all of that.

-Yeah.

0:57:190:57:22

You know, sometimes, you see these little nuggets of love

0:57:220:57:25

that makes you, makes you well up.

0:57:250:57:26

-Other times, it's blooming heartbreaking.

-It is.

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But never let anybody tell me

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that older people and youngsters can't get on.

0:57:320:57:35

There are bridges to be built but, once they're there,

0:57:350:57:38

I think we're on to something really big, really valuable.

0:57:380:57:41

Oh, definitely.

0:57:410:57:42

'Next time...'

0:57:460:57:47

Maybe some of us oldies don't actually listen.

0:57:470:57:51

'..as we try to unite everyone...'

0:57:520:57:54

She interrupts me, doesn't let me talk.

0:57:540:57:57

'..communication breaks down.'

0:57:570:57:59

I'm just a bit concerned that this is one opportunity you have

0:57:590:58:01

to get a qualification.

0:58:010:58:03

I hope it doesn't end in tears.

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'What do you think of the older and younger generations of today?

0:58:080:58:11

'Well, to find out more and have your say, go to...

0:58:110:58:15

..and follow the link to the Open University.

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