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In the first part of Minding Our Language,

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we looked at the historical roots of the Scots language

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and how it made it over here to Ulster.

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In this programme, we'll be concentrating

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on the rich and varied catalogue of Scots and Ulster Scots literature.

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But first - I know the programme's only started,

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but I reckon you need to be insulted.

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One area where the Ulster Scots language excels itself

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is in the insult.

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It has it down to a fine art.

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Your buddy's as lazy as sheugh water.

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He's yin slate aff and the other's slidin'.

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Now, you might say you don't know any Ulster Scots,

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but if I was to call you a "sleekit gulpin",

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or a "carnaptious skitter", or a "bletherin' pachle",

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you'd be upset.

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Maybe it's not very good at positive affirmation.

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A lot of the terminology is negative.

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In fact, Ulster Scots has so many words,

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I can give you over 25 insults beginning with the letter G.

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SHOUTING

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A lot of the terms are derogatory,

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but at the same time, they're colourful.

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If you're talking about a "sleekit auld targe" for a woman,

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it'd be very hard to capture or convey that in English.

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It's hard to be as effective in English.

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English has got a much more stilted vocabulary

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for really offending somebody.

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BARMAN:

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At the start of 18th century,

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it looked like Scots in its written form

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was in terminal decline.

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But then, something remarkable happened.

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And it all started with this man.

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Allan Ramsay's Tea-Table Miscellany, in the year 1728,

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was a collection of rural folk poetry and works by Ramsay himself,

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which did much to spark a revival of interest in the language.

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And it featured a poem from William Starrett,

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a man from Strabane.

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He sent this verse epistle to Allan Ramsay,

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who responded to him,

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and both of those poems

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are in Allan Ramsay's book.

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William Starrett's Ulster Scots

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is very dense, very musical, very lilting

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and very definitely not English.

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Ramsay's work encouraged the likes of Robert Fergusson.

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Fergusson loved Edinburgh, and his poetry was gritty and urban.

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"Auld Reekie", which is the "wale o'ilka toun",

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which means "the best town in the world" -

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it's the choicest town, "wale" is choice.

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"Wale o'ilka toun" - choice of every town.

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It's a celebration of Edinburgh itsel'.

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Everything about it is worth celebrating

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and "auld reekie" means the smoke -

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this really is an approach like James Joyce.

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He celebrates a'thing - everything.

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Now, Fergusson in turn was hugely influential

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on Scotland's most famous son.

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No, not Billy Connolly.

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No, not Mel Gibson.

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Robbie Burns.

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We're in the Robert Burns Room.

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This is the Robert Burns committee room

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in the Scots Parliament.

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Is there a room in Scotland not named after Robert Burns?

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Well, I tried to find them when I was First Minister

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and change that, of course.

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Robbie Burns is everywhere in Scotland -

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even the hotel we booked here in Stirling.

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Burns stayed here in the year 1786.

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He was upset at the rundown nature of Stirling Castle,

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and so scratched a poem on the second floor window of his hotel bedroom.

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The poem bemoaned the loss of the Stewart line

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and insulted the Hanovers, who had taken over the British Crown,

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describing them as an "idiot race".

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"Who know them best despise them most."

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Realising that this could be quite offensive to some

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and possibly dangerous to himself, Burns came back to the hotel

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a couple of months later and smashed the window.

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By the way, please don't try that at the Europa.

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Now, I'd like to say that our crack team of researchers

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working on this programme knew about this story

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before they booked the hotel.

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But I can't.

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No...it was the only hotel in Stirling that would have us.

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Now, some people are a bit sniffy about Burns

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and all that wearing of kilts and addressing haggises,

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but Burns is worth more than a second look.

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He's celebrated globally. He's a hero in Canada and Russia.

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There are Burns societies all over America.

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Bob Dylan claimed inspiration from him.

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And if that's not a good enough reason to read him,

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well, Jeremy Paxman hates him.

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He started writing about 13, 14.

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He was really taken by one of the girls who was helping him

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on the harvest, Nelly Kilpatrick,

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and he thought he'd try his luck

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and he wrote a song for her called Handsome Nell.

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-Right.

-So that was his first attempt, really,

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at what he calls "the sin of rhyme".

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"My love is like a red, red rose

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"That's newly sprung in June

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"And I will love thee still, my dear

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"Till all the seas gang dry."

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Very romantic.

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But to be honest, Robbie used to say that to all the girls.

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Not to be crude about it, but when it came to his love life,

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Robbie Burns had a wee touch of the Russell Brands.

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In his lifetime, Burns was known as the Ploughman Poet,

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which makes him sound like a kind of rapping Poldark.

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Mind you, Robbie took his shirt off even more often than Poldark.

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He had lots of relationships with different women.

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He fathered at least 13 different children.

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-13?!

-Yeah.

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-By how many different women?

-Five, that we know of.

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Initially, Burns published to raise money to go to the West Indies.

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He thought one last roll of the dice would be worth a punt.

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And it worked.

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The Belfast Newsletter was the first paper in Ireland

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to print extracts of his work,

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and the first edition of Burns' poetry printed outside Scotland

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was printed here in Belfast.

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Burns, interestingly, didn't profit from that,

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so it was...

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-You mean the Belfast people kept the money?

-They did.

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-That wouldn't be like us.

-It was in the days before copyright.

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Now, when Burns wrote in Scots, he often had a glossary

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at the back of his books translating the Scots words into English.

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In Ulster, however, the glossary remained...well, unread, unthumbed.

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Why? Well, because everyone here perfectly understood

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every single Scots word.

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If you look at Tam O'Shanter,

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for example, Burns' masterpiece,

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entirely written in Scots, and right in the middle

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of this rollicking, Scots-written ghost story,

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there's a couple of stanzas in English -

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"But pleasures are like poppies spread..."

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He puts that couple of stanzas in, just to demonstrate,

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"Listen, if I'd wanted to write in English, I could have done.

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"I just didn't."

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But besides the romanticism,

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the descriptions of rural life and the love poems,

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there was one other key aspect of Burns' later life.

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MUSIC: Flower of Scotland by the Corries

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Scots Wha Hae is ostensibly about Bannockburn,

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but its firebrand language is also about so much more.

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Scots language was the language

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of the dispossessed and the marginalised,

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and through Burns, it was now clearly identifying itself

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with the cause of Scottish nationalism.

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Burns' increasingly nationalist and revolutionary stance

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lost him many friends in the establishment.

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He was an advocate of the French Revolution in the early days,

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until they threatened Britain with invasion.

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He followed the American Revolution as well,

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the Wars of Independence, very keenly.

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I think Burns was an agitator, really, but he had to watch himself,

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because towards the end of his life, he worked for the Crown -

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he was an excise man, or a taxman.

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He had to balance his political views

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with the need to make a living.

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And as the government clamped down,

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well, even the People's Poet got a wee bit scared.

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Scots Wha Hae was published anonymously.

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-And Jeremy Paxman hated him.

-Um...Jeremy Paxman said

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that...he was a purveyor of "sentimental doggerel."

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I wouldn't have minded that opinion,

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but it was in the preface to a Chambers dictionary,

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so it was a bit naughty of Chambers to do that, I think.

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-So, he's not welcome here.

-Yeah, I'd love to show him around.

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-THEY LAUGH Just charge him double!

-Exactly!

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There were poets in Ulster writing in Ulster Scots

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before Burns burst on the scene,

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but there is no doubt he took things to a different level

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and popularised poetry.

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He was a massive influence on the Rhyming Weaver poets

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of the late 18th and early 19th centuries.

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The Rhyming Weavers were a new breed of Ulster Scots writer.

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Many of them were self-taught, they were politically radical -

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some of them were involved in the 1798 Rebellion.

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Their poetry drew on the landscape that surrounded them,

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but was also irreverent and deeply egalitarian.

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Of course, in those days, the poet was a bit of a star,

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someone to look up to,

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and the Rhyming Weavers were kind of like the X Factor stars of the 1800s.

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Except, of course, that the Rhyming Weavers wrote their own stuff

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and were quite good.

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Mind you, some of the stuff they wrote might surprise you.

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Every walk of human life is contained in the poems,

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if you look deep enough to get them.

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Robert Huddleston certainly dealt

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with the earthiness of human life.

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He has written one particular poem, The Clergyman And The Schoolmaster,

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and yes, it does deal with some very untoward goings-on.

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Two wives and the two husbands, the clergyman and schoolmaster,

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had no families, no children, they'd...failed.

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But after a few of these encounters in the bar,

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all of a sudden, the children where blossoming,

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and he suggests that if you are having problems in the farmyard

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with your hens and your roosters, perhaps just a little bit of...

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-Mixing and matching.

-..animal husbandry is required, yes.

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So, yes - long before Ashley Madison,

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Robert Huddleston told us that adultery was alive and well,

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here in Moneyreagh.

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Yes - Moneyreagh.

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The Bangkok of County Down.

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Not many people about today.

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Must be all "indoors".

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Francis Boyle lampoons this very fancy doctor

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who comes to Donaghadee

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and pretends to be very wealthy and respectable,

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but it turns out that what he's doing in Donaghadee

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is he's taking care of the ladies of the night who are there,

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attracted by the sailors who are in the town.

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It's kind of like the ancient version of a Twitter mob.

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If you want to lampoon somebody and Twitter didn't exist,

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the local poet was the man that you went to.

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Forget statues and awards -

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you know you've made it when you've got a pub named after you.

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In 1951, the great poet John Hewitt

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got a Masters in Arts at Queen's University

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when he wrote a paper on the Weaver poets of Antrim and Down.

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The remarkable thing is,

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when he submitted his paper to the academics and professors,

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they genuinely thought he'd made the whole thing up.

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None of them had heard of these Ulster Scots poets.

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So, they made him take them down to the Linen Hall library,

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take them to Central library,

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take them to the newspapers collections

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and actually prove that these existed.

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So they thought he literally was spoofing his load

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and had made all this up.

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As is often thought nowadays as well.

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James Orr was one of the finest writers in Ulster Scots

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that there ever was.

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Orr was a member of the United Irishmen.

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He was an on-the-run.

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He was also a Freemason and a self-taught poet

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of extraordinary ability and humanity.

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He produces pieces that are, um...

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..very, very finely crafted,

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as finely crafted as anything you'll find,

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you know, in the best of English or Irish literature.

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But he never lost his radical principles.

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He is very, very clear about the dignity of the ordinary person

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and that really comes through

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in the Irish Cottier's Death and Burial.

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Earlier on, we visited

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the multi-million-pound Robert Burns museum.

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Burns' birthplace cottage has been beautifully restored.

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And this is what James Orr gets.

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Not so much as a blue plaque on the outside.

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I mean, come on - even Daniel O'Donnell

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has got his own museum.

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We should be shouting

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Orr's reputation from the rooftops.

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A writer of his calibre,

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who has produced work that reflects a period that is key,

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absolutely key, to Irish history, the Rebellion-Union period,

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and gives us a unique, Northern, Presbyterian perspective on it,

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it amazes me that he's not on the exam syllabus.

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Everyone watching this programme has heard of Seamus Heaney.

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But hands up who has actually read lots of his poetry?

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And no, I don't just mean that you know that line

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"when hope and history rhyme".

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Who has read lots of him?

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Don't worry - I'm the same. Most of us are.

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Most of us don't actually read an awful lot of poetry.

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But, thanks to this programme,

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I've actually read quite a lot of James Orr.

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And do you know what? He's bloody good.

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He's funny, he's political, he's clever,

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he's a brilliant observer of human life,

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of people and their foibles and flaws.

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Orr had a couple of flaws himself.

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Because he didn't have a wife to come home to

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and a happy family,

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he was inclined to seek company at an inn

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and just got too fond of the drink

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and of the company of drinkers as a result of that,

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and he seems to regret the amount of time

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that he has to spend with people like that.

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-He wouldn't be the first to do that, now.

-No.

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Carol said to me, "Tim, whatever you do,

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"please do not call James Orr

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"the George Best of Ulster Scots poetry."

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So I won't.

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All I will say is that when Ballycarry finally gets

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the airport it so desperately needs,

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there is only one contender for the name.

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Burns' poetry led to a temporary resurgence in the Scots language.

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But Burns died in 1796 and by the early 1800s,

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the language was suffering neglect and marginalisation.

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The Walter Scott Memorial is the biggest monument to any writer

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anywhere in the world - though, to be fair,

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Jeffrey Archer's not dead yet.

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Now, Walter Scott spoke in broad Scots,

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but he wrote in English.

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The only time he ever wrote in Scots

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was when he wrote for rural or working-class characters,

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and that really sums up the position of Scots in 19th-century Scotland.

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A man who speaks Scots in everyday life writes in English

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because that is the only way to get published.

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By the middle of the 19th century,

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Scots and Ulster Scots was being actively discouraged in schools.

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The Education Acts in Ireland and Scotland

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confirmed that English was to be the medium of all education -

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all books and all lessons were from now on to be in English.

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A certain snobbery that came in with the education system

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suggested that Ulster Scots was just bad English,

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and so for that reason, people were writing in English instead.

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If I used a Scots word in polite company,

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my mother would tell me off.

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So I might say, "I'm going oot",

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and she would say, "No, you're going out."

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So she'd tell me off about that.

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She thought if you spoke Scots, you'll never get at a decent job,

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like running the Robert Burns Birthplace Museum.

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-Little did she know!

-THEY LAUGH

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By 1940, the Scottish Education Department stated

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Scots "is not a language of educated people anywhere

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"and could not be described as a suitable medium

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"of education or culture."

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It meant that school wasn't much fun for the average Scots speaker.

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People were made fun of, at school, particularly.

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They didn't have their culture or their language respected

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and it was very, very damaging for people.

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People came out the other end feeling...unhappy...

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..uncertain about their culture and uncertain about their speech.

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It was... It shut people up. It shut people up.

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Yeah, I think anybody who grew up in the country

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would have that sort of experience.

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Um...

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My mum tells me about kids

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who were literally chased around the classroom

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with the teacher with a cane because they weren't speaking properly.

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It was the same as the proscription of Gaelic.

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It wisna quite as savage

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and it would depend on individual teachers -

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and, of course, a lot of the teachers spoke Scots.

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They were fae these towns and a' the rest of it.

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But there was this idea - "No, no, you have to learn to speak English

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"to get on in the world."

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There was nae concept of bilingualism.

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People's culture, which stretched back centuries,

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their language culture, stretching back centuries,

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treated with utter contempt.

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Given the hostility of the establishment

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to Scots and Ulster Scots,

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it isn't surprising that the literature went into decline.

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Scots literature is almost on its knees

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because naebody is using the Scots language

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to tackle big subjects.

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The people that followed Burns,

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they followed the kind of countryside,

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the couthy side, the wee Scotland.

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There's a lovely poem -

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"Wee, a nice wee word

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"And Scots, too - it maks you proud."

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You ken? I mean, and that's, "Oh, God," you know...

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But suddenly, everything changed.

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In 1926, Hugh MacDiarmid wrote a poem called

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A Drunk Man Looks At The Thistle.

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Come on - who hasn't done that?

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A Drunk Man Looks At The Thistle

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begins wi' an attack

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on the Burns cult -

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the way that this incredibly revolutionary-living poet

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has been turned into a kind of mummified house god.

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I was opposed to certain ideas that were current at that time,

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promulgated by the Burns...

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..Club of London and I decided,

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in consonance with my own character,

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to take a very different

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angle of approach.

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MacDiarmid's real name was Christopher Murray Grieve.

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He was a Communist

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and a founder member of the Scottish National Party.

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He was probably also the greatest Scottish poet of the 20th century

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and he wrote in Scots.

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A Drunk Man Looks At The Thistle was like a childbirth in church.

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The shock that suddenly...

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"But, this is nae just a wee dialect.

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"This is a language. This is a modern language."

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Almost single-handedly, he dragged the Scots language

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from its folksy, rural cul-de-sac and put it centre stage.

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I certainly wouldn't be writing the kind of poetry I have written

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if I weren't a Scottish nationalist and a Communist.

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However, even the genius of MacDiarmid couldn't prevent

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the decline of the Scots language.

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As television dominates,

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as the world becomes...becomes interrelated,

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then it is increasingly difficult to defend accents, languages,

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against that power of uniformity.

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Interestingly enough, Burns thought that in the late 18th century,

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so the fact that we are still going strong in the 21st century

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is probably a compliment to the robustness of Scots.

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In the 1998 Good Friday Agreement, all the parties agreed

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that Ulster Scots was part of the cultural wealth

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of the island of Ireland

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and the UK government has formally recognised

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both Scots and Ulster Scots as languages

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under the European Charter on Regional and Minority Languages.

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Yet, controversy still remains as to the actual status of Ulster Scots

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and efforts to protect and promote the language

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have led to criticisms and problems.

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I can see why people have been...

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..uncertain about some of the production of material

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that has come out of some of the agencies that support Ulster Scots,

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because I've seen them,

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and I'm kind of looking at them thinking,

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"I don't know what any of this means."

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Maybe it's because I'm not from that community,

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but I suspect people in the community

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are maybe looking at this stuff and wondering the same stuff.

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I remember getting a phone call from a neighbour

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that got his single farm payment documentation

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from the Department of Agriculture through the letterbox, and there was

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reams and reams of it in Ulster Scots.

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And this guy was an Ulster Scot and enthusiastic about the language,

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but in typical canny Scots fashion,

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in a time of financial austerity,

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he saw this as being a needless waste of money,

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cos, sure, everybody knows and understands English.

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What Ulster Scots does attract,

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or the notion of Ulster Scots as a language,

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is a kind of payroll vote from certain sectors.

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One of those sectors is Unionist politicians

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and in a way, it's a kind of shibboleth.

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When people who speak the language see these documents

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and they read these words, they think,

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"Well, that doesn't have anything to do with me.

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"What's that about? Why are they doing this?

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"Who are they doing it for?" Now, these are sensible

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and perfectly reasonable questions for people to ask.

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Why shouldn't they? It's their money being spent.

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So, is it a language that needs laws and bilingual translations?

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Or does it just need a wee bit of encouragement in education?

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Well, you'd have to be a politician to decide that, and...apparently,

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they're a bit busy at the moment.

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We need to stop the bickering over language.

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One of the things that amazes me is that we are still not

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teaching children in schools Ulster Scots.

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We don't have the textbooks

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and we don't have a GCSE in Ulster Scots,

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so that's the stuff to focus on.

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I've no problem with people translating stuff and putting it in ads,

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but that is not how you revive a language.

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Mark, there are people who are sceptical about Ulster Scots.

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Give them a few ideas of where they would really enjoy

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Ulster Scots literature.

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Definitely have a look for Ballads of Down,

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by George Francis Savage-Armstrong - great stuff.

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And have a look at things by John Clifford

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or by WG Lyttle or Archibald McIlroy.

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Somebody like Charlie Gillen, talking about whenever

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all the farmers knew the names of individual cattle

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right through to buying a second-hand computer

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or commentating about the rituals of courtship.

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This doesn't involve Tinder, then? This is kind of...

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Tinder? That's something you light the fire wi'.

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I'd like to see an Ulster Scots version of that!

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All languages are different. As somebody once said,

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a language is just a dialect with an army and a navy.

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Who knows if they'll get an army and navy in there?

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But as we've seen, Scots was the language of the monarchy

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and the government of Scotland,

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and while it certainly was similar to English,

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it was also distinct as well -

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the same way Norwegian is similar to, but distinct from, Swedish.

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Speaking to a number of Scots language activists,

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certainly there is an underlying nationalist agenda.

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They spoke about respect, esteem, about culture being valued.

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They say Scots was the way their grannies and their cousins spoke

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and it doesn't deserve to be mocked or derided.

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They don't speak that way just to get a grant.

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So, what implications does that have for the Ulster Scots?

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What would you say to people in Northern Ireland who say,

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"Look, Ulster Scots, I don't need it, it's not part of my life,

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"why should we bother paying money for it, for instance?"

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I would say to these folk,

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do you really want your bairns and your grandchildren

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to lose a' this heritage?

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Everything that's been written in Ulster Scots,

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the way that Ulster Scots expresses the reality o' Ulster,

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do you want that just to dee?

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To be lost forever as a living force?

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Cos there's nae need for it. It's nae very expensive.

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You just stop correcting the children in the classroom.

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You encourage the children to use these words.

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There is something very soothing, something unique,

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something lilting and musical in it, you know?

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It makes me feel my Scottish ancestors.

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There is just something very hamely about the hamely tongue.

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It's really important to hang on to distinctiveness

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and personality and accent and language, wherever you can,

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and, you know, we should nourish and protect it,

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because it's what makes life worth living.

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There is a richness about the Scots language

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of which...few can be surpassed.

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It's part of your ain identity

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and if you're a' just speaking a kind of computer language,

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where are you?

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Who are you?

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The programme should be called Minding Our Languages,

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because all the languages spoken here,

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all the indigenous languages - English, Ulster Scots and Irish -

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they are all our responsibility and our duty to support

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and to promote and to protect them.

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You can't insult a language. It's a thing. It is inanimate.

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It can't answer back.

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Dictionaries aren't going to fly off a shelf and attack you.

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So, when you mock Irish or Ulster Scots,

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you're basically mocking those who speak it, who learn it,

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who value it and enjoy it -

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which means I probably have a few apologies to make.

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Now, I doubt I'll convince everyone that Ulster Scots is a language.

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I'm not 100% sure myself.

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But let's take the politics out of it.

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I hope I've shown you that, even if you think Ulster Scots is a dialect,

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it also has proper linguistic roots.

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It has a history and a literature

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and therefore, it deserves some respect.

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And besides that, well,

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it's something that...something that's just a bit of craic.

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"Craic", by the way, is a Scots word. Not Irish.

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That's another programme entirely.

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