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I want to live on a different scale to everybody else.

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Money is obviously a limiting factor for life.

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So, if you've got an unlimited amount of money,

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it means you can do whatever you want whenever you want,

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however you want to do it.

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Justyn and Akil are in their early 20s.

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They live on the outskirts of Birmingham.

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There's noble choices, like, you know, get a job, finish college.

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Can you control your dog?

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I used to have a job, but I didn't really like it.

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We might live here, but we're not from here.

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We just think differently.

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I wouldn't be able to do the sort of life I want to live

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if I just did the norm.

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Justyn thinks he's found a way to achieve the lifestyle of his dreams.

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I found trading.

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So now I've been trading for nearly four years

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and now I manage over £1 million.

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But he says a million is just the start.

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He wants to be the richest person in history.

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There's never been a trillionaire before. It's seen as impossible.

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So, becoming a trillionaire is doing whatever you want to do

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and just having no limits to it.

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DOG BARKS

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Justyn and Akil are part of a global phenomenon.

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Like millions of others, they dream of transforming the life by trading.

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Just a few years ago, this would have been impossible.

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But now technology has made the markets

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more accessible than ever before.

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Now anyone can be a trader.

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And I'm going to start this now at 50 million here with me.

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50 million.

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Over a fifth of the world's 100 richest people

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owe their wealth directly to the finance industry.

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Trading and investing on the markets has given them a combined wealth

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of nearly 500 billion and the lifestyle that goes with it.

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80 million. Sold!

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Risking money to make more money...

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is one of the most lucrative industries on the planet.

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Trillions of dollars are traded on the world markets every day

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by people in banks, dealing rooms and hedge funds.

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But what was once the exclusive domain of Wall Street and the City

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is now more accessible to everyone.

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Online trading platforms have opened up the markets

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and their potential rewards - and risks - like never before.

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..the best performing developed market...

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Thousands flock to trading shows,

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dreaming of swapping a 40-hour week for a few clicks of a mouse.

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Beginners can do extremely well from trading,

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even if they have no experience,

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as long as they're given a good strategy.

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Many no longer trust the banks to look after their money.

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It's an appalling travesty.

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Most people are being robbed by the financial institutions

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which they are putting their money into.

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But playing with the big boys isn't easy.

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The odds remain stacked against home traders,

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and only 10% will make a consistent profit.

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But this doesn't seem to put people off.

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It's time that we as individuals learn to take control

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of our own finances, and just get on with it.

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This is a film about just a handful of the 100,000 people in Britain

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who are writing their own financial futures by becoming retail traders,

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trading the markets from home.

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Oh! THEY SQUEAL

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Jane is a mum to three small children all under ten.

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Oh, that was rubbish!

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Along with her husband Alan,

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they live in their rented house in the heart of Devon.

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Oh, there she goes, look.

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For the past two years,

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Jane has also been working away from home every weekend as a nurse.

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Being a mum and working,

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well, they say you're meant to be juggling your career and your family,

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but I just think you're just dropping everything. You're not juggling.

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Sometimes you end up, if you're not careful, just firefighting.

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You all right there? Are you a bit sad?

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'Because you're so exhausted, you just deal with each problem as it comes up.'

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-Mummy, can we have the sandwiches?

-Yeah.

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And what goes is your time for yourself.

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Oh!

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'The dream of financial independence, which I think is really important,'

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is your own thing.

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And I think it allows you more time to spend with your family.

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What do you have to do?

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Jane thinks trading might be the answer.

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I was doing the school drop-off one day

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and there's a mum there with a really nice Audi A4 Convertible.

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And I said to my friend, "How can she have that?"

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And she said, "Oh, I think she trades in stocks and shares or something."

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I thought, "Oh, that's interesting."

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So I came home and I Googled trading and I just thought, "Oh, I'll have a go."

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So I just signed up for one

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and just started messing about and having a play.

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It's just so accessible. You can just sit in your house, trading.

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Jane has been trading for nine months.

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My account value is 1.6 million.

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I'm not even sure what it means, but I think it's good.

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Unfortunately, it's not real money.

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It's a demo account, provided by the online platform companies,

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for newcomers to learn how to trade.

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When I see 1.6 million of pretend money, I'm gutted

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that it's not real.

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Sometimes I'll win, like, £50,000 in a trade

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and I'll say to my husband, "£50,000!"

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But he's like, "It's not real."

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It's sad, really, that I can't do it with real money...yet.

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Jane is using a technique called spread betting.

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Unlike other types of trading,

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she's not actually buying or selling anything,

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she simply bets whether a currency will go up or down and by how much.

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Choosing the right trades obviously is important.

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I don't... I failed my maths O-level three times.

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I'm not very good at numbers.

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But what I do, I've just learned to literally look at the chart

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and guess, and think which way it's going to go.

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And if I see one that I think looks like it's going to go up, I'll buy it.

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If I see one that looks like it's going to come down, I'll sell it. It's as simple as that.

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Because if there's no trades on, I won't make any money.

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I think I might put another one on now

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because I've only got four at the moment.

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Jane can trade in almost any pair of currencies imaginable.

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As long as the value of one is changing in relation to the other,

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she could make a profit.

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I'm going to put £1,000 on

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the British pound versus the Japanese yen

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and I hope it comes down.

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Confirm.

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That's the trade. It's on now.

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It's just shot up!

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It's gone massively up now.

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She's hoping that she'll soon be confident enough

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to trade with real money.

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It's gone down to 5,000 now.

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6,000. It's all over the place.

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I'm going to let it run and ignore it. Because it's best not to watch.

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It's too stressful.

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I'll look at that in an hour or so.

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Most people can learn the technicalities of trading

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in just a few weeks.

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But making consistent money on the markets is not so straightforward.

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A profitable trader has to predict whether something is going up

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or down, by how much, and then buy or sell at the best time.

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Getting all this right

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while risking your own funds is immensely difficult.

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And 90% of retail traders will lose money.

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-RADIO:

-'The latest unemployment figures out later today

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'are expected to show another fall in number of people out of work.

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'The jobless rate currently stands at...'

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Making sure you're in the winning 10% takes discipline.

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So...

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Charlie Burton has been on an extreme fat loss diet

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for several weeks.

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He's aiming to get his body fat down to 4%.

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The average for a man his age is 20%.

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This is lunch number one.

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And then I have another lunch in a couple of hours.

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He's eating a kilo of meat a day,

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but no sugar, no alcohol and very few carbs.

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If I had a really active job,

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then I would naturally need more carbohydrates in my diet,

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but I don't, because I'm sitting down in the office all day long.

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Right, that's that.

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And I do just clean up as I go along, I can't help myself.

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Charlie has been trading for 17 years and firmly believes

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the right working environment is crucial to his success.

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Because I'm at home, I like it nice and clean.

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Like if you worked in an office,

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you'd have a clean desk or a tidy desk or whatever,

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this is my office, this ground floor of this house.

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I like to keep it clear and clean,

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because it keeps my brain clear for when I'm trading.

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Charlie works from his own dedicated trading room

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kitted out with state of the art equipment.

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It's not a hobby, it's a business.

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My charts cost me not a huge amount, about £200 a month,

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but lots of traders don't even do that.

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You're given free charts through your brokers,

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but it's free for a reason.

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You can probably do eight tenths of what my charts can do up here,

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but I need the full ten tenths.

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Every night, he analyses the market

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and decides how he's going to trade the following day.

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One of the biggest things that most traders get wrong

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is a lack of discipline.

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You have to just be very methodical,

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plan ahead, then just wait for the markets to come to you.

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That's why so many traders lose, unfortunately.

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NEWS REPORT: 'Today's figures will be closely examined

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'for indications that is going to change...'

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Today, the government is releasing UK unemployment figures.

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Traders all over the world

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are trying to guess how the pound will react.

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A lot of retail traders have been trying to cool the top,

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and yet it's just going up and up and up,

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so they're getting caught

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on the wrong side of the market at the moment,

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and all the time they're on the wrong side of the market,

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I want to take the other side of their bet,

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because in the main, the herd are wrong.

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I am going to take a trade shortly, so we're going to...

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Let's, erm...

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Charlie is waiting for the pound to reach its highest value

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so he can buy as many dollars as possible.

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He's then predicting the value of the pound will drop

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and will sell those dollars for more pounds than he bought them for.

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OK, so I'm trading.

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With the press of a button, Charlie has risked several hundred pounds.

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That's what I love about the markets -

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it's a challenge every day.

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An off-day in the markets means that not only are you not getting paid,

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the market's actually going to take money away from you,

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and there's no other job in the world like that.

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His disciplined approach has made him a millionaire.

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Most novice traders think about how much money they can make,

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whereas most professional traders

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focus on how much money they can lose.

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It's a simple recipe for success,

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but it's amazing how many people get it wrong.

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Charlie's instinct was spot on.

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He bought at the right time.

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I've banked over £700 so far in this trade.

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If I can make £1,000 or somewhere round about whatever it would be,

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approaching £1,000, then pretty much that's me done for the day.

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PIGEONS COO

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Justyn and Akil's trading empire is run from Justyn's parents' house.

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While Akil runs the day-to-day business,

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all of the trading is done by Justyn...

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in his bedroom.

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You could say I don't really look like a trader,

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cos a trader should be in London.

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He should wear a suit,

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but I'm just sitting here in whatever clothes I want.

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A lot of the time, I'm sitting in my pyjamas.

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It's a case of you can either look like a trader or actually be one.

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Four years ago,

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Justyn realised his life wasn't going in the direction he wanted.

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I dropped out of college because you know when you see stuff on the TV

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like nice cars and big houses and everything?

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When I was at school, if the person teaching me

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hasn't got any of the stuff that I want, what's the point in listening?

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I looked at what I had, a car and a computer,

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I didn't want to be a taxi driver,

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so I typed, "How to make money online",

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trading came up and then I just looked into it deeper from there.

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He enrolled in a course in London

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and soon discovered home traders like him

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have far less access to market information than the professionals.

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You need to know the news

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and all the economic data releases before everybody else knows them,

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so you need to be able to get that data

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then enter the trade before everybody else,

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but because I never had any access to that sort of thing,

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there was no point in me learning,

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so I just focus completely on the technical side of trading.

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Justyn completely ignores the news

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and instead uses charts built from statistical data

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about how the market has behaved in the past

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to predict what it will do in the future.

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Because history repeats itself,

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you just have to work out the trends,

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apply your technical knowledge and get into the trade.

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It's about having a consistent plan that stays the same non-stop.

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Whether I'm trading 1,000, 10,000, a million or 100 million,

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it's no different to me.

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Trading is all about percentages -

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the more you trade with, the more you can make,

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so attracting investors can be very profitable.

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Justyn and Akil have set up a business

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where clients can open their own private account

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that corresponds to Justyn's trading account.

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In this kind of trading,

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the investors stand to make profits or losses

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when the trader's account goes up or down.

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The way it works is all the accounts are joined,

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so they all just mirror the same trades, basically.

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It's a really simple model.

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Justyn never actually holds a client's money.

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He just manages other clients' funds.

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So we're not millionaires yet.

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The clients split their profits with the trader

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and also pay a performance fee.

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Justyn has been using social networking

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to display his trading skills,

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putting some of his best trades online for all to see.

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This is a trade that I done.

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The green line shows the price that I got in,

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the red line shows my risks, meaning I can only lose a maximum of 3%.

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The chart continues to go down

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and it ended up taking profit around this level,

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so I risked that much to gain that much.

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The distance between there and there on this one account here

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works out to be...

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23,998.

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On that one account.

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No-one can make as much money as traders do.

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A trader can make a million in a week.

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It's going to be difficult for a business

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to make a million in a week unless you're massive,

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but a trader could just be one guy in a room.

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Trading's going to take us where we need to go.

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Unlike professionals working in financial institutions,

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retail traders can't access the markets directly.

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Many use a broker,

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the intermediary between the trader and the exchanges.

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This is 40 Bank Street, Canary Wharf...

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OK, BG Group, long, 325 shares, yeah?

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..home to Saxo, a bank that makes most of its revenue

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by providing an online broker platform where anyone can trade.

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Stripping emotion out of it, what does that tell you?

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That it's a good stock, they've got the business model right,

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they got the good products out there in the market, people are buying it.

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The role of the team overall is to support our customers

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in their own adventure of trading.

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We've don't actually trade ourselves, for ourselves.

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We assist with news that comes up, potential problems, anything.

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The nitty-gritty of trading.

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Brokers make their money by what's called "the spread".

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They buy direct from the market

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and offer the same products on their platforms at a profit.

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The perfect client for us is an active, profitable client.

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They're trading actively and every time they trade,

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they pay us commission,

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they're profitable so they're here to stay.

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The last thing we want is a client to trade very actively,

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but then blow themselves up within a short period of time and disappear.

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-NEWS REPORT:

-'On the currency markets,

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'the pound was down more than half a cent...'

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The vast majority of online retail traders

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are trading on the biggest market in the world,

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the global currency market, or the forex, worth 5 trillion every day.

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-NEWS REPORT:

-'Against the euro, sterling was down 0.2 of a cent...'

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It's essential, enabling businesses in one country

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to pay for goods or services in another,

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but this only accounts for a fifth of all currency trading.

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The remaining 80% is generated by traders

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-simply speculating for profit.

-'..making a euro worth 83 pence.'

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Retail traders are a small but significant part of the forex,

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counting for around 200 billion every single day.

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Rene Muccio is one of them.

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He gets up early every morning to prepare for the markets

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and get in the zone.

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Trading is so rewarding.

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I don't think I've actually felt like this since I was a small child.

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I feel at peace.

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I know what I'm doing, I know what I want to do

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and I know what I want to achieve.

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I look forward to it every day.

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Professional news feeds can cost around £1,000 a month.

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Rene makes do with his tablet.

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My page has got Financial Times,

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Barclays Stockbrokers, then you've got CNN,

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but I'm not good enough yet to have the paid feeds.

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I'm still learning the art of trading.

0:19:050:19:08

That'll take me up to another level.

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The final part of his prep is a refreshing walk around the block.

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Quite often you can wake up, you might be angry,

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erm, sad -

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I want to clear all of that and get...

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..emotionally neutral...

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..so that when I sit down,

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I look at the markets in a completely balanced way.

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I walk with a stick, cos 22 years ago,

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I broke my back in a motorbike accident.

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I was paralysed, I was in a wheelchair,

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so I keep walking to help build up the legs.

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I feel good.

0:19:530:19:54

I've had my coffee, I've been for a walk, it's a lovely morning,

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I'm feeling balanced,

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psychologically neutral...

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Looking forward to the markets.

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Rene's about to pit himself against millions of traders worldwide,

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including hedge funds so large they can move markets.

0:20:130:20:17

I've been doing this now for seven years.

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I knew absolutely nothing about trading.

0:20:200:20:23

I looked at it and I wanted to do it and I believed I could do it,

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and I think in the first week, I lost £2,000.

0:20:280:20:32

I had no idea what I was doing.

0:20:340:20:36

Absolutely criminal.

0:20:360:20:38

Now I have a good understanding of fundamentals,

0:20:390:20:43

a good idea of market sentiment,

0:20:430:20:46

and I have a good basic trading plan.

0:20:460:20:51

Rene looks for volatility in the price of a currency,

0:20:520:20:55

trying to spot good places to enter a profitable trade.

0:20:550:20:58

Dollar-yen has maybe moved five points.

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It hasn't set any patterns yet,

0:21:060:21:09

so I'll just watch it

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and see what it's doing.

0:21:110:21:13

I think, I think, you get to a point

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where you get a genuine feel for the market,

0:21:150:21:17

and once you've got that, you're away

0:21:170:21:19

and that's learning the art of trading and it really is an art form.

0:21:190:21:24

To contain his losses,

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Rene has reduced the amount he trades with each time.

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I trade £1 or £2 per point.

0:21:300:21:35

I've brought it down to the minimum.

0:21:350:21:37

I'm still playing with money,

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because I can't trade if there's not money involved.

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But £1 or £2 keeps it real.

0:21:430:21:46

In the last couple of months, I can tell you I've made no real progress,

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but I'm up by about ten points.

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Which is £10.

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So this is a Porsche 911.

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This car was six figures.

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I got it just under a year ago.

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I didn't even tell Rachel that I'd bought the car.

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It was a bit of a gamble,

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but I thought it was better to ask for forgiveness than permission.

0:22:150:22:18

Charlie's trades are looking after themselves

0:22:200:22:22

and he's taking a break from his screens.

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If you gave someone a sponge and a bucket,

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they would be able to wash a car,

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but when it comes to trading, you either make money or you don't,

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so why is it that so many people, so many traders, can't do it?

0:22:340:22:39

It's not technical ability -

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you'll gradually get the technical ability just with time.

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But you need to be able to cope with the knock backs

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and there are a huge amount of knock backs in trading.

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Most human beings I don't think can cope with it.

0:22:520:22:54

Like many traders, Charlie learned the hard way.

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My first account, I put 40,000 into it and took it up to 250,000

0:22:590:23:03

in the space of six months, something like that,

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then over the following six to nine months,

0:23:070:23:10

I lost the lot.

0:23:100:23:12

I think a lot of people would probably give up at that point.

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Most traders who do give up

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probably didn't quite give it as much as those that do.

0:23:200:23:24

CHILDREN CHATTER

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So far, Jane has only traded on a demo account.

0:23:330:23:36

She's turned a mock £300,000 into 1.6 million in just nine months,

0:23:360:23:42

and she's now convinced she can get similar returns with real money.

0:23:420:23:45

She wants to open her live account with £6,000

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and has come up with a plan to help raise the cash she needs...

0:23:510:23:54

Come on, then.

0:23:540:23:56

KITTENS MEW

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..10 Bengal kittens worth £200 each.

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You coming out?

0:24:020:24:03

Come on, then.

0:24:030:24:05

..six, seven, eight.

0:24:050:24:06

Nine, ten. Yeah, got ten, that's good.

0:24:060:24:09

I've got two litters of five kittens and I've sold six,

0:24:090:24:16

got 4 to go, so that's 1,200 towards trading.

0:24:160:24:20

When you're making a lot of money and it's pretend,

0:24:230:24:26

you've got to try it. I've really got to try it.

0:24:260:24:29

Even if it goes wrong, I've just got to try it with real money

0:24:290:24:32

and these represent the opportunity for me to start doing that.

0:24:320:24:36

I think if you know when you start that you're going to sell them,

0:24:370:24:40

you can handle it. You aware of it from the beginning,

0:24:400:24:42

so you don't get too attached, but this one here,

0:24:420:24:44

I think I might have to keep this one,

0:24:440:24:47

because she's just always cuddling me, aren't you?

0:24:470:24:49

This is going to make a lovely pet, aren't you?

0:24:490:24:52

Jane's husband Alan has also contributed several thousand pounds

0:24:560:25:00

to help her start trading.

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She does enjoy it and she's very passionate about trading,

0:25:030:25:06

but when she first told me about it,

0:25:060:25:09

I was a bit like, "Really? Is that possible?"

0:25:090:25:12

I didn't quite get that you could do it from home.

0:25:120:25:14

..four...

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I don't understand the mechanisms behind it or how it actually works.

0:25:160:25:20

Let's pop you in there.

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If it works, it will offer my family a whole new life,

0:25:220:25:25

a lifestyle, if it works.

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It's a very big "if", though,

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because I'm very aware that it could quite easily go wrong.

0:25:290:25:31

Not all home traders are doing it just to make money.

0:25:380:25:41

Some of them also trade for the sheer excitement.

0:25:430:25:45

Nothing thrills me more than to see zero variance

0:25:470:25:51

at the end of the month.

0:25:510:25:52

If that's OK, I'm OK.

0:25:530:25:55

John Leggett is the founder and administrator of SABOM,

0:25:560:25:59

or Serious About Our Money,

0:25:590:26:01

a trading club with a mature membership.

0:26:010:26:04

Tomorrow is the club's monthly meeting.

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Got to prepare the agenda.

0:26:090:26:11

We have to prepare the valuation of the club.

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Then we do a few slides

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showing our performance against either the FTSE

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or against ourselves a year ago.

0:26:230:26:25

John was the chief financial officer at Boots for over 30 years.

0:26:280:26:32

There is nobody who is more interested in your money than you

0:26:320:26:35

and if you believe anybody else is interested in your money

0:26:350:26:38

for your sake, you are mistaken.

0:26:380:26:41

My opinion is that the people who work in banks

0:26:410:26:45

are very nice, laudable people,

0:26:450:26:47

charming and useless.

0:26:470:26:50

-Morning, Michael.

-Hello, Mike.

0:26:520:26:54

How are you?

0:26:540:26:55

Every month, the members of SABOM meet in a local pub

0:26:550:26:58

to discuss how their trading portfolio is performing.

0:26:580:27:01

Well, good morning, everybody.

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ALL: Good morning.

0:27:050:27:07

Welcome to our first meeting of our new financial year.

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There we have it.

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We've not made a big profit this month.

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Must do better.

0:27:150:27:17

The group was originally set up as an investment club,

0:27:200:27:23

buying shares for the long term.

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We found that there was no point in meeting,

0:27:250:27:27

because there was nothing to discuss.

0:27:270:27:29

We'd bought the shares, we were holding the shares

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and somebody would say it's gone up a bit

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and somebody would say it's gone down a little bit.

0:27:330:27:35

And then we took the decision

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that we would move into more active trading.

0:27:380:27:41

Everyone in the club has invested their own money...

0:27:420:27:45

..but the actual trading is entrusted to just a few members,

0:27:460:27:50

including Stan and Michael.

0:27:500:27:52

Michael, let's just think about the conversation

0:27:520:27:55

you and I had earlier on this morning

0:27:550:27:57

when you were trying to persuade me that we ought to buy ASOS

0:27:570:28:00

and I said, "No, not now."

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What was the essence of what each of us was saying? Can you remember?

0:28:020:28:06

No. THEY LAUGH

0:28:070:28:09

There's no fun in investment.

0:28:090:28:10

Full stop. All the fun's in trading.

0:28:110:28:14

That's one of our objectives,

0:28:140:28:17

is to have fun and we have fun.

0:28:170:28:19

-It's actually quite exciting, isn't it, Michael?

-It is, yes.

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Trading is, as opposed to investment,

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cos investment, you've got to take a very long-term view...

0:28:250:28:28

..medium term, one year, two years,

0:28:300:28:32

whereas with trading, of course, we have dealt within hours, haven't we?

0:28:320:28:37

We've bought something, just by chance, of course,

0:28:370:28:40

-and sold it within hours.

-No, no, I don't agree by chance, no!

0:28:400:28:44

It's was luck...skill, rather.

0:28:440:28:47

-Skill, yeah!

-It was skill.

0:28:470:28:48

As one of the designated traders, it's Stan's job

0:28:530:28:56

when to decide when to buy and sell the club's shares.

0:28:560:28:59

Where do we start?

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Well, we look for this volatility,

0:29:020:29:04

that's a huge factor in choosing a share to buy.

0:29:040:29:09

You can trade more frequently and thus make more money

0:29:090:29:13

if you are dealing in shares that are volatile,

0:29:130:29:15

where the price is doing that.

0:29:150:29:17

As opposed to the price doing that.

0:29:170:29:19

Stan wants to buy shares in mining company Rio Tinto.

0:29:200:29:23

It's 3,380.

0:29:250:29:28

It has been down as low as 3,150 within the last month.

0:29:280:29:36

Club rules mean he can only spend £6,000 on any one trade.

0:29:360:29:40

Six...one, two, three...

0:29:400:29:42

It's about 180 shares. I could up it a bit to 190.

0:29:420:29:47

That's the price it's going to cost us.

0:29:480:29:50

We submit the order and I've now got a screen up

0:29:500:29:52

which is asking me to "order confirm",

0:29:520:29:55

so I need to read that very, very carefully.

0:29:550:29:58

And I confirm it -

0:29:590:30:01

you will see, as if by magic, it's appeared there.

0:30:010:30:04

It can be a bit stressful, yeah,

0:30:050:30:07

particularly if you're trying to do a lot all at the same time.

0:30:070:30:11

It's exciting as well,

0:30:110:30:12

particularly that day when we bought and sold ASOS twice in the same day

0:30:120:30:16

and that was really, really...

0:30:160:30:18

We'd never done that before, and that was really brilliant.

0:30:180:30:21

Rene started trading with £10,000.

0:30:260:30:29

He's now down to less than 4,000.

0:30:300:30:32

Recently, he thinks he's seen an improvement.

0:30:330:30:37

My equity curve is going up

0:30:370:30:39

and more importantly,

0:30:390:30:41

my understanding of the way I'm trading

0:30:410:30:45

is becoming a little more precise.

0:30:450:30:48

Rene believes he's finally beginning to crack the elusive art of trading.

0:30:480:30:52

My most exciting trades are where I'm just watching the charts

0:30:530:30:57

and I will enter a chart and I don't even know why I've entered.

0:30:570:31:01

It's something inside my brain saying, "Go long, go short,"

0:31:020:31:06

but it's telling me to do something and those trades don't fail.

0:31:060:31:12

So far, they always seem to win.

0:31:120:31:14

But I don't get enough of them.

0:31:150:31:17

Providing home traders like Rene with access to the markets

0:31:190:31:22

is one of the financial sector's fastest growing industries.

0:31:220:31:26

Online platforms can make money whether a trader wins or loses,

0:31:280:31:31

as long as they trade.

0:31:310:31:33

In 2013, Britain's biggest provider took profits of £192 million.

0:31:340:31:40

For brokers Saxo,

0:31:430:31:45

today is one of the busiest trading days of the month -

0:31:450:31:48

the announcement of US employment figures.

0:31:480:31:51

If the number's massively distorted,

0:31:510:31:52

then there's normally a massive spike in the markets.

0:31:520:31:55

They can move very, very quickly, be very volatile.

0:31:550:31:59

The announcement is due in a few minutes,

0:31:590:32:01

but for those with access to the instant news feeds,

0:32:010:32:04

there are already hints to what it might contain.

0:32:040:32:06

Did they give a number on that, Theo?

0:32:080:32:10

Fisher says,

0:32:100:32:11

"Jobs data significantly affected by the weather."

0:32:110:32:15

So we're reading about number in that, probably.

0:32:150:32:19

The number might not be as good as anticipated,

0:32:190:32:21

so prepare yourself for a bad number

0:32:210:32:24

and probably a decent market reaction.

0:32:240:32:26

You'll have to excuse me.

0:32:260:32:28

One minute, guys.

0:32:330:32:34

-NEWS REPORT PLAYS

-Canada On-line.

0:32:380:32:40

"Appalling number, no revision", that's really bad.

0:32:410:32:44

Really bad.

0:32:450:32:46

113, no revision.

0:32:480:32:50

FTSE's gone negative.

0:32:500:32:52

A really bad number, guys.

0:32:520:32:54

The US dollar is off by about 0.3 of a percent at the moment,

0:32:540:32:58

like, instantly. Across everything.

0:32:580:33:00

The numbers might be bad for the US economy,

0:33:000:33:03

but the volatility they've caused is good for trading

0:33:030:33:07

and the brokers are quick to inform their most important clients.

0:33:070:33:10

Hi, Roger, it's Theo here from Saxo. Really bad number from the NFP.

0:33:110:33:16

Dollar is off.

0:33:160:33:17

..trading at the moment of the day's range and now going negative.

0:33:170:33:21

Within just a few seconds, the markets respond.

0:33:230:33:26

It's been a very steady overnight market, around the 136 level.

0:33:280:33:31

Over the number, we've grown up to about 136.40 or .50,

0:33:310:33:37

so that's about 0.25%,

0:33:370:33:40

moving the dollar across a number of currencies.

0:33:400:33:42

All about the game of information, right?

0:33:440:33:47

NEWS REPORT: 'So how was it looking on the share markets today?

0:33:500:33:53

'The big news, of course, was the US jobs figures...'

0:33:530:33:56

'..by a lot of snowy and icy weather,

0:33:560:33:58

'investors have decided the jobs report

0:33:580:34:00

'may not have been as good as they thought.'

0:34:000:34:02

Just a few miles away,

0:34:020:34:04

Rene also watches the monthly figures affect his charts.

0:34:040:34:07

When you've got information coming into the market,

0:34:080:34:11

hitting it hard and different traders interpreting it in a different way,

0:34:110:34:16

to me that's too much volatility. I can't trade it.

0:34:160:34:19

It's pure gambling and I'm not interested.

0:34:200:34:22

Rene has spent years trying to work out the fine line

0:34:240:34:27

between trading and gambling.

0:34:270:34:29

One of the problems I used to have was I would enter a trade,

0:34:290:34:33

of course, I would have a positive expectancy that I was right

0:34:330:34:37

and it would go against me.

0:34:370:34:40

You're down £100 already and you're thinking,

0:34:410:34:44

"Oh, I don't want to lose £100, so I'll wait."

0:34:440:34:47

Then you watch it go down another £10 and you're £200 down

0:34:470:34:51

and it will come down to a level where you think enough is enough.

0:34:510:34:57

You will then stop out the trade

0:34:570:34:59

and you have just gambled away possibly hundreds of pounds.

0:34:590:35:03

Being able to cut your losses and leave a losing trade

0:35:050:35:08

is one of the hardest things to learn for any trader.

0:35:080:35:12

Does that mean you're a loser?

0:35:120:35:14

Does that mean you're a failure in life?

0:35:140:35:16

It comes with an awful lot of baggage.

0:35:160:35:19

So having to close out a losing trade is hard.

0:35:190:35:22

'BBC Radio Devon's travel news.

0:35:240:35:26

'And in Barnstaple,

0:35:260:35:28

'one lane is closed on Braunton Road due to drainage work...'

0:35:280:35:31

Jane is also discovering how emotional trading can be.

0:35:310:35:34

I logged on to do my personal banking

0:35:340:35:37

and I saw that the money was ready,

0:35:370:35:42

which was a bit of a shock, really.

0:35:420:35:44

I remember my legs started trembling and I was really shaking

0:35:440:35:48

and I was just staring at the screen, thinking,

0:35:480:35:50

"That's it now. It's up to me. I've got to do it."

0:35:500:35:53

She has opened a live account

0:35:550:35:56

and has now been trading with real money for six days.

0:35:560:36:00

The first day I made £99.50.

0:36:000:36:02

I'll never forget that figure!

0:36:020:36:04

And the second day it was about 105

0:36:040:36:06

and then I lost £350.

0:36:060:36:09

Jane risked too much money by mistake.

0:36:100:36:13

I put a trade on, thinking it would be about £3.

0:36:130:36:16

I hadn't checked, it was £30.

0:36:160:36:18

It went wrong, so it went wrong really quickly and too much for me.

0:36:180:36:21

So I had to bail out of that trade really quickly

0:36:210:36:24

at minus £350.

0:36:240:36:26

So I was...

0:36:260:36:28

It was a horrible start. It made me feel sick.

0:36:280:36:31

Now she's trading for real,

0:36:310:36:32

Jane's approach has become more methodical.

0:36:320:36:35

I'm a little bit more careful now.

0:36:350:36:38

I've had my fingers burned a couple of times.

0:36:380:36:39

I had some hideous mistakes.

0:36:390:36:42

I do think, now, more before I pull the trigger.

0:36:420:36:45

So I'm just looking at the US dollar and the CNH.

0:36:460:36:50

First of all, I look at it on the four hour chart,

0:36:500:36:54

and it's up.

0:36:540:36:55

Then I look at it on the 30 minute chart, way up.

0:36:550:36:59

And then the five minute.

0:36:590:37:02

I wouldn't buy that one now because it's gone up,

0:37:020:37:04

it's turned around and it might be coming down.

0:37:040:37:07

In fact, I'm going to leave that one altogether. I don't like it.

0:37:070:37:10

Trading with real money is proving harder than expected.

0:37:100:37:14

I feel a little bit anxious, to be honest.

0:37:150:37:19

Silly, reckless, very excited when it's going to profit

0:37:190:37:24

but at the moment,

0:37:240:37:26

lots of mixed feelings, really.

0:37:260:37:30

I'm just looking at the British pound and the Turkish lira.

0:37:300:37:33

I think it might be about to go down but I've lost my bottle.

0:37:330:37:36

I'm going to leave it alone. I'm not...I can't do it!

0:37:360:37:39

Once I'm back in profit I'll be all right

0:37:420:37:44

but I'm still at a loss

0:37:440:37:45

because of that awful thing that happened on the third day.

0:37:450:37:49

But once I resolve that, get in my stride,

0:37:490:37:51

I think I'll be a little bit more...

0:37:510:37:54

confident with my trades.

0:37:540:37:57

..and then Adrian's for dinner on Friday.

0:37:590:38:03

Also, I am doing CrossFit on Saturday morning at Hungerford

0:38:030:38:06

-if you fancy it.

-Are you?

-Yeah.

-What is CrossFit?

-CrossFit is...

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Charlie's still in training for his fat loss programme

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and friend Jason is his regular running partner.

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Rhea text me about it at the weekend

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and said it's the hardest work out she's ever had,

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so I thought, "I've got to be all over that."

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Jason is a regular competitor in Ironman,

0:38:220:38:24

an extreme fitness event.

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Charlie's very good to train with.

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He keeps you motivated

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and he's always available for a run

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if I'm home early from work,

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or I want to get out for a lunchtime.

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Nine out of ten times you give Charlie a call

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and he's straight in the car and over

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and we can go for a five, six mile run

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and get any tension worked out from the day.

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It's great.

0:38:540:38:55

He's a person that would not show that he's keen

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but under it all, he's very keen and very competitive,

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although he doesn't show people that.

0:39:040:39:06

I've never seen someone so focused on just eating

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and doing the exercise he needs to achieve a certain goal.

0:39:110:39:14

So you were saying about the Ironman...

0:39:170:39:19

-Yeah, I'm not fit enough yet. I've got lots...

-No cake.

0:39:190:39:22

Is it no cake from now on? No chocolate...

0:39:220:39:25

Charlie's reputation has led to an opportunity

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that will take his trading to a whole new level.

0:39:280:39:31

I've been asked to trade a fund,

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-so they're giving me 50 million to trade.

-50 million?

0:39:340:39:38

Yeah, so... Yeah, they got in touch a couple of weeks ago and said,

0:39:380:39:42

"Look, really looking for some traders,

0:39:420:39:44

would you be interested?"

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I thought, "Well, there's no real change to my dynamic,

0:39:460:39:49

"my working day," so I said, "Yeah, I guess so."

0:39:490:39:52

And so it's already started, so it's moved really quick.

0:39:520:39:55

How come they've given you so much money?

0:39:550:39:58

Well, it's not a lot of money, actually,

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cos the fund is running into billions.

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And so what they do is they appoint tranches of money,

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blocks of money, to different traders.

0:40:040:40:07

Charlie will receive a percentage of any profits,

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so trading such a huge fund could make him a lot of money.

0:40:110:40:14

I like the Fiat...the sport one.

0:40:170:40:20

They may not have access to billion pound hedge funds

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but that doesn't mean Justyn and Akil are not well-connected.

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Through their network, they've managed to land introductions

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to a few of the richest young men in Britain.

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Where's the bass, mate? Where's the bass?

0:40:340:40:36

HE TURNS UP THE MUSIC

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Today, they're driving up to South Cheshire,

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also known as the footballer belt.

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This car is a Mercedes C63 AMG.

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It's a 40 grand car, quite fast.

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I think Justyn has trouble handling it sometimes.

0:40:530:40:56

You can't even drive!

0:40:560:40:58

They've come to see Leon Best,

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a premiership footballer who plays for Blackburn Rovers.

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I'm not too sure what Leon is worth

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but I know from the newspapers and stuff like that

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you've got footballers out there that are worth...

0:41:080:41:11

How much is Rooney worth these days, Justyn?

0:41:110:41:13

-He gets about...

-300k a week.

0:41:130:41:14

So, you know, I'm not too sure if it's to that extent

0:41:140:41:18

but it's a considerable amount, I can imagine.

0:41:180:41:21

It's not really a question that we ask.

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The only question we ask is,

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"How much capital can you afford to invest?"

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If this meeting goes well,

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he'll make a serious investment in their trading company.

0:41:320:41:36

Leon is just a few years older than Justyn and Akil,

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and also grew up in the Midlands.

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-Good drive?

-All right, all right.

0:41:450:41:48

So, no traffic?

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They have a lot in common, including a love of trainers.

0:41:490:41:54

Before they talk business,

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Leon is keen to show them his new designer range.

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Collection for L'Homme de Maison.

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As you can see, I love my shoes!

0:42:050:42:07

Love your shoes is an understatement, mate!

0:42:070:42:10

These are really nice, actually, you know.

0:42:100:42:12

Leon has over 350 pairs of trainers.

0:42:120:42:15

Like, these boots here are 1,686 of 1,998.

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Original.

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THEY LAUGH

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I always wanted the newest, best pair of shoes

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when I was younger, growing up.

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And a few of my mates would have them

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and I'd always have to wait until they got into the sales to get them.

0:42:320:42:36

So they wouldn't be the new, best ones, then.

0:42:360:42:38

Basically, I want to have this but for cars.

0:42:380:42:40

So I just want to have a massive showroom,

0:42:400:42:42

-just loads of cars in there.

-For cars?!

-Yeah!

0:42:420:42:44

I just want both. Shoes and cars!

0:42:440:42:46

It's good to be able to come to Leon's house

0:42:460:42:49

because most people won't be able to see these sort of things

0:42:490:42:51

so they won't be able to see it as attainable

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so they won't aspire to have it.

0:42:550:42:56

A few months ago, Justyn opened a demo account for Leon,

0:42:590:43:02

to show him the profit he might make on an investment.

0:43:020:43:06

You're probably going to want to see some past performance, here.

0:43:060:43:09

All the profits and losses you can see.

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Loss is a maximum of 3%, profits are unlimited.

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So on this graph it's 18% profit.

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That was with only 3% risk.

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The downward periods are a lot smaller than the upward periods.

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-More gains.

-Yeah, more gains.

0:43:220:43:24

From there to there, in four months...

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-Yeah, things have been tweaked.

-That's crazy.

0:43:270:43:29

Since there, everything was tweaked

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and constantly just keep on tweaking everything

0:43:310:43:33

so that everything gets better and better.

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Leon's wealth manager

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has already okayed an investment of £100,000

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but for Leon himself it's more personal.

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I'm not going to just throw 100 grand

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into something that I don't believe in.

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Like, no-one would.

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You hear about all these big bankers.

0:43:500:43:53

They don't know you on a personal level.

0:43:530:43:54

He's come to my house, he knows my family, you know,

0:43:540:43:57

he sees how I live.

0:43:570:43:58

So once you're in that circle,

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if I was to then say to my other friend who's a footballer,

0:44:000:44:04

"Yeah, I am doing this with Justyn,"

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he'd then want to just do it, just because I am doing it.

0:44:060:44:09

-Let's do this.

-Yep.

-Make it happen.

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The Serious About Our Money trading club

0:44:230:44:25

also understand the value of a bigger fund.

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The 10 members have pooled their resources and trade with £65,000.

0:44:280:44:32

Club members Stan and Michael live 93 miles away from each other

0:44:360:44:40

so every morning they plan the day's trading by phone.

0:44:400:44:43

PHONE RINGS

0:44:440:44:46

Good morning. You have reached the Wheatley residence.

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-This is the butler speaking, how can I help you?

-Hi, Stan.

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Morning, Michael.

0:44:550:44:56

-How you doing?

-Yeah, OK.

-Yeah, I see...

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The call gives them a chance to share useful information.

0:44:590:45:02

Looking at Europe,

0:45:020:45:04

they're all moving along quite nicely as the FTSE is, isn't it?

0:45:040:45:08

Yeah, the London stock market expect it to open about 18 points

0:45:080:45:12

higher than yesterday. Yeah.

0:45:120:45:14

I think we ought to be buying into ASOS...

0:45:140:45:17

Stan thinks he's spotted a possible trade on one of the club's

0:45:170:45:20

favourite shares, ASOS, famous for selling dresses online.

0:45:200:45:25

It's a very interesting price, Stan, ASOS.

0:45:250:45:28

The current offer price is 40.18. Yeah.

0:45:280:45:30

The price is going down but both think it's about to go up.

0:45:300:45:34

Retention's there, we know that, yeah.

0:45:340:45:37

They need to decide when to buy and when to sell.

0:45:370:45:40

You talk about a low limit,

0:45:400:45:42

what about a high limit before we get back in?

0:45:420:45:44

I wouldn't want to let it go much above 40.50.

0:45:440:45:48

Neither would I. No.

0:45:480:45:49

-Right.

-OK, so we have an agreement?

-Uh-huh.

0:45:490:45:52

Wahey! We have an agreement.

0:45:520:45:55

That's got to be a first.

0:45:550:45:58

Stan is buying £6,000 of ASOS shares at £40.15.

0:45:580:46:03

Now the currency is GBX...

0:46:030:46:06

They've entered the market just in time.

0:46:060:46:09

We just about got it, didn't we, Michael?

0:46:090:46:11

I think that's about the lowest it's been.

0:46:110:46:13

It went 40.15, then it went to 40.14,

0:46:130:46:17

from there on, it's gone upwards.

0:46:170:46:20

That was a good one.

0:46:200:46:21

-Speak to you in about what? Ten minutes?

-Yeah.

0:46:210:46:24

-Yeah.

-OK, then.

-Cheers.

0:46:240:46:25

-Yeah, cheers.

-Bye.

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If the price continues to go up to 40.50 as predicted,

0:46:300:46:34

the club will make £50.

0:46:340:46:37

All the skill is actually in choosing the right shares

0:46:370:46:41

to be trading in any way and the club does that

0:46:410:46:44

and, in its wisdom, it more often than not is right.

0:46:440:46:50

We are reliant upon a collective input.

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That's a crucial part of our operation.

0:46:540:46:58

The SABOM members may not realise it but their way of sharing information

0:47:000:47:03

for better trading is at the forefront of new finance.

0:47:030:47:07

For years only the privileged few

0:47:090:47:11

had access to the kind of information and the investment

0:47:110:47:14

that gave them the power to move markets

0:47:140:47:17

but now that's changing.

0:47:170:47:19

There's a new wave of trading activity erupting alongside

0:47:190:47:23

the established banks and brokerages.

0:47:230:47:25

People like us want to disrupt the financial ecosystem and

0:47:250:47:29

the revolution is all about creating more equality through technology.

0:47:290:47:35

It's all about creating more access and more opportunities

0:47:350:47:39

to more people around the globe.

0:47:390:47:40

Yoni Assia's London office is on the 39th floor of One Canada Square.

0:47:420:47:46

So time to shed this idea of using the social index system...

0:47:470:47:52

He's one of a new breed of canny pioneers

0:47:520:47:55

with plans to transform finance with technology.

0:47:550:47:58

We can actually give you access...

0:47:590:48:02

He developed the world's first social trading platform, eToro.

0:48:020:48:06

He wants it to be the Facebook of trading.

0:48:060:48:10

The idea is basically to take the concept of investing

0:48:100:48:13

and merging it into the concept of social networking.

0:48:130:48:17

So people open their investment account with eToro,

0:48:170:48:20

they start trading in the markets

0:48:200:48:22

and every trade and investment they make in the markets

0:48:220:48:25

gets automatically published on their walls.

0:48:250:48:28

The site has 3.5 million users from all over the globe

0:48:280:48:32

who all share their knowledge and ideas about trading.

0:48:320:48:36

You can really see the active discussions everybody's having.

0:48:360:48:40

This guy from Indonesia talking about his gold position

0:48:400:48:44

or this person from Algeria talking about Apple,

0:48:440:48:48

so you can actually see what people are doing

0:48:480:48:50

in their own trading account.

0:48:500:48:52

Users don't just share information,

0:48:530:48:55

they can also copy people they think will make profitable trades.

0:48:550:48:59

Malsolo here is one of our most copied people on the platform.

0:48:590:49:04

You can actually invest 1,000 in him,

0:49:040:49:07

copying every investment he makes in his account,

0:49:070:49:09

directly into your account.

0:49:090:49:12

So if he in his account will make 20%

0:49:120:49:14

then you in your account will make 20% on those 1,000.

0:49:140:49:20

Being copied can be very profitable.

0:49:200:49:22

The site's most popular traders can earn 10,000 a month

0:49:220:49:26

on top of their trading profits.

0:49:260:49:29

But Yoni stresses there is more to it than that.

0:49:290:49:31

Social traders tend to be from a generation

0:49:310:49:34

that is used to sharing everything online.

0:49:340:49:37

They want to have more social features,

0:49:380:49:41

communicate with one another more, have more transparency

0:49:410:49:44

because when people in the big banks around us make decisions,

0:49:440:49:48

their information is just closed there.

0:49:480:49:51

This takes these existing conversations and makes them public,

0:49:510:49:56

makes them accessible for everyone.

0:49:560:49:59

So instead of two people understanding

0:49:590:50:02

and knowing about an idea,

0:50:020:50:04

suddenly 3.5 million can know about it.

0:50:040:50:07

Justyn and Akil have taken advantage of the power of technology

0:50:150:50:19

and social networking from day one.

0:50:190:50:21

How many followers have you got now?

0:50:210:50:23

Now there's over 1,000 followers.

0:50:230:50:26

Justyn's been posting recent activity on Instagram

0:50:260:50:29

to raise his profile.

0:50:290:50:31

-So here's the two recent footballers.

-Yeah.

0:50:320:50:35

-This one's Cyrus Christie for Coventry City.

-OK.

0:50:350:50:37

The other one is Callum Wilson, he also plays for Coventry City.

0:50:370:50:41

Oh, yeah.

0:50:410:50:42

And being connected to one professional footballer

0:50:420:50:45

has opened the door for others to take a risk on investing.

0:50:450:50:48

What did Callum comment?

0:50:480:50:51

"Let's do this, bro." "We work in." "Nice work."

0:50:510:50:54

Leon coming on board has definitely boosted

0:50:540:50:56

a lot of confidence in other people.

0:50:560:50:58

Two footballers came on as a result of him

0:50:580:51:01

so he's definitely done positive things for us but, you know,

0:51:010:51:04

there's still a big pond out there that we're trying to explore.

0:51:040:51:08

-Do you want some cucumber?

-Yes, please.

0:51:120:51:16

It's half-term

0:51:160:51:17

and Jane's children are keeping her and her husband Alan busy.

0:51:170:51:20

It looks like pizza.

0:51:200:51:22

There's times you really want to watch a trade, it's really moving

0:51:220:51:26

and you want to know when you want to pull the trigger and buy

0:51:260:51:29

and then your children want to borrow your iPad to watch Frozen,

0:51:290:51:32

that sort of thing can be quite tricky.

0:51:320:51:35

Or one of them falls over and you've just got to stop everything

0:51:350:51:38

and go and sort them out. That can be very hard.

0:51:380:51:41

I don't imagine City boys having to deal with things like that

0:51:410:51:44

when they're about to put a massive deal on.

0:51:440:51:47

Zoe, yours are ready!

0:51:470:51:49

Jane finally gets the opportunity to check her trades.

0:51:510:51:56

So since eight o'clock, I've taken £50.

0:51:560:52:01

I've done 3 of a tenner and a 20. So I'm quite pleased.

0:52:010:52:05

It's lunchtime and so far today in the background quietly

0:52:050:52:08

I've made £50.

0:52:080:52:11

I like that. It's nice.

0:52:110:52:13

Despite things going well, Jane is still leaving the family home

0:52:160:52:19

every weekend to work as a nurse.

0:52:190:52:22

I've been doing it 20-odd years and I've specialised.

0:52:220:52:25

I'd probably earn about £22-25 an hour.

0:52:250:52:30

So a tenner is like half an hour,

0:52:300:52:34

time spent out of the house, doing that, away from the family.

0:52:340:52:39

It's quite physical. It's quite exhausting, nursing.

0:52:410:52:44

It's much nicer to sit on your sofa with a laptop

0:52:440:52:47

and earn a tenner than go out there and earn it.

0:52:470:52:50

Charlie has now been on his fat loss programme for two months

0:53:020:53:05

and today, he's come to an exclusive city gym

0:53:050:53:07

for the final part of the challenge.

0:53:070:53:10

Come on, mate, five more.

0:53:120:53:14

He's been on a strict regime with no sugar or alcohol for two months.

0:53:140:53:18

To me, it's just a structured plan, just follow the plan

0:53:180:53:22

and you'll get to the end result.

0:53:220:53:24

His wife Rachel has planned a slap-up meal to celebrate

0:53:250:53:28

the end of his diet.

0:53:280:53:30

I love it.

0:53:310:53:32

He worked so hard for it and he looks really good. Really good.

0:53:320:53:38

Very, very proud of him.

0:53:380:53:40

I'm really looking forward to going out for dinner.

0:53:400:53:42

Charlie's also going to be featured in a men's fitness magazine.

0:53:440:53:48

That really is amazing. I'd less shots at the wedding.

0:53:490:53:53

He's very determined.

0:53:530:53:56

He'll have to do it better than anybody else as well.

0:53:560:53:59

That's classic Charlie, that is.

0:53:590:54:02

Despite being away from his desk,

0:54:030:54:05

Charlie is still hoping to have a profitable day.

0:54:050:54:08

Just because I'm down here doing this,

0:54:080:54:10

I still have to have trades into the market.

0:54:100:54:13

My analysis is done so the orders are in and I'm just going to

0:54:130:54:17

let them play themselves out. It's all automatic.

0:54:170:54:20

It's all about risk to reward so whatever happens,

0:54:200:54:22

I'll either lose this much or I'll make that much.

0:54:220:54:25

That's the name of the game.

0:54:250:54:27

The final part of the challenge is

0:54:270:54:29

to see just how low Charlie's managed to get his fat level.

0:54:290:54:33

6.1.

0:54:340:54:36

4.1.

0:54:360:54:37

3.8.

0:54:370:54:38

'I started out at 16% body fat so the goal was to get to about 6%,'

0:54:380:54:43

I think I've probably surpassed that.

0:54:430:54:45

Rich's just measured me and I've come in at 3.3% body fat

0:54:470:54:50

and like Rich says, you can't really get much lower than that.

0:54:500:54:53

It'll be nice to have a small part of our social life back

0:54:530:54:56

but actually I do want to continue

0:54:560:54:59

so the next challenge is going to be to see if I can get bigger with this.

0:54:590:55:02

I've gone really lean

0:55:020:55:03

and now I need to start to try and maintain the leanness

0:55:030:55:06

but get a bit bulk out as well so that's the next challenge.

0:55:060:55:09

Loving it.

0:55:090:55:11

DOORBELL RINGS

0:55:150:55:18

Before he started trading,

0:55:180:55:19

Rene was a successful antiques dealer for 14 years.

0:55:190:55:24

-Hello.

-Buongiorno!

-You all right?

0:55:250:55:27

RENE SPEAKS IN ITALIAN

0:55:270:55:30

-You speaking Italian today?

-James.

-Rene!

0:55:300:55:33

Tonight, some of his old friends from the business

0:55:330:55:35

have come round for poker night.

0:55:350:55:37

Also invited is younger sister Roma.

0:55:370:55:41

-Rene, are you having wine or beer?

-I'm having beer, thanks.

-OK.

0:55:410:55:45

-Are we all put in?

-Yeah.

-I'm going to put in one.

0:55:450:55:47

Like most brothers and sisters,

0:55:470:55:49

Rene and Roma have always been competitive.

0:55:490:55:52

I'll go 10.

0:55:520:55:54

I'll go five and I'll see you.

0:55:570:56:00

Read 'em and weep. King high.

0:56:000:56:03

Sucker!

0:56:060:56:09

Three of a kind.

0:56:090:56:10

Well-played. I've been losing for seven years!

0:56:110:56:14

THEY LAUGH

0:56:140:56:17

It's the one thing I'd like to think I've perfected.

0:56:180:56:21

Come on.

0:56:210:56:22

Roma has always had reservations about Rene giving up antiques

0:56:220:56:26

for trading.

0:56:260:56:28

As an antique dealer, you were successful and you earned money

0:56:280:56:31

and you could earn money very quickly in three days

0:56:310:56:34

-that could see you through to the month.

-Mm-hm.

0:56:340:56:37

So you considered yourself successful?

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No, because although I could make money...

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..I ultimately felt empty inside.

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I could see no purpose in continuing.

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Trading has given me feelings or emotions or has helped me grow

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in a way none of the other businesses ever did or could do.

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But you're still on zero after seven years so how does...?

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Inside, how's your confidence?

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Don't know about confidence,

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my self esteem probably isn't as good as it should be.

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But what am I to do?

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I have found a career that...

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..for want of a better phrase, that I think is worthy of me

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and it's what I would like to do.

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But the bottom line is, financially you're not making the money.

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No.

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But I'm happy in what I do

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but as you're aware my lifestyle is going downhill.

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As your sister, I don't normally give you compliments

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but I do admire your passion

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-for doing something that you absolutely love...

-Thank you.

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..even though you know if you went back to antiques tomorrow

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you can earn money but you choose to stick with what you do.

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So either you're absolutely crazy or it's admirable.

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I don't know which but...

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I'm a trader. That's what I want to be.

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-Are you betting?

-I'm in five.

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Did anybody bet?

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ASOS shares, it's fallen off a cliff.

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Slow, that's it and relax.

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Pop them down.

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CATS MEOW Are you cross?

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-That's the wrong door! That's the wrong door!

-Is it this door?

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It's the wrong door. It's the wrong door!

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