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Royle-Evatt/Rowley

Series in which British families explore moving to Australia or New Zealand. Mathew hopes a week in Perth will convince his fiancee their future lies down under.


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Having spent almost half of your life in the Armed Forces,

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you're ready to hang up your uniform and jet off

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for another exciting new life in Australia.

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But first there's one very important mission you need to achieve -

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persuading the love of your life to join you.

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After years on the move,

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Mathew Royle-Evatt is searching for somewhere to call home...

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I don't feel as a part of this house as the dog, to be honest.

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..and believes that could be in Australia.

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We're moving to Australia now.

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-Let's go find a house.

-SHE LAUGHS

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But will a week down under see fiancee Phillipa fight

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for life in the UK...

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I don't think Mathew appreciates the gravity of what he's asking.

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..or buy into Mathew's vision for their future?

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It's not as straightforward as, like, "Do you like the weather?"

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It's so much more than that.

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Whether it's the stunning natural scenery,

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an outdoors lifestyle or the climate...

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..Australia continues to attract people from across the world.

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But it's the unique bond

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the Commonwealth country shares with the UK

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that sees over 30,000 Brits making the move there every year.

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Mathew Royle-Evatt joined the Army when he was just 16.

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But after ten years of active service,

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he's ready to swap his military career for married life,

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and thinks Australia is the place to do it.

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But for fiancee Phillipa,

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the thought of leaving everyone she loves in the UK

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to start a new life on the other side of the world

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is a scary prospect.

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So, will a week sampling everything the country has to offer

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be enough to help destroy Phillipa's defences

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and secure Mathew the future he so desperately wants for them?

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The journey begins with a 20-hour trek

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from Manchester to Perth via Abu Dhabi.

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And although Mathew's used to travelling,

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both he and Phillipa are relieved when they finally touch down.

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The flight was very long and challenging,

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especially for Phillipa, because she couldn't sleep.

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I am blaming Matt for that flight.

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I didn't enjoy it, and at the moment, it's all Matt's fault.

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All that time in the air has given Phillipa plenty of time

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to contemplate being so far from family in the UK.

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When my mum dropped me off at the airport, I was really emotional.

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It's really far away,

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and the flight definitely reiterated

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just the fact that it's at the other side of the world!

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But Mathew's got his eye firmly on the target.

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But we're in Perth now,

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so I've just got to push it to Phillipa

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to tell her why we've got to live here.

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-We'll see.

-HE LAUGHS

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Meet Phillipa, Mathew,

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and their pet doggie, Ollie.

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Childhood sweethearts,

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Phillipa and Mathew first met at school,

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but with Mathew signing up to the Army a few months later,

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their relationship got off to a rocky start.

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Mathew's job has had, like, a huge impact on our relationship

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because Mathew's away, like, 80% of the time.

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As soon as we got together, I was off to Afghanistan for seven months,

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didn't have a date of when I was coming home,

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didn't know what was going to happen, did we?

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True love blossomed, though,

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and the couple are convinced they've found their soul mates.

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I think we do complement each other quite well.

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Like, we're good at what we're good at

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and then the other is good at the stuff...

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-They're good at.

-..the other isn't at.

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No, that made sense.

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-I don't... I'm not sure it did.

-THEY LAUGH

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With plans for their wedding under way,

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Mathew's now ready to give his Army career the boot

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in pursuit of a more stable life with Phillipa,

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and believes that could be in Australia.

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I joined the Army to get away from England

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and then somebody decided that she'd steal my heart,

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and now I want to steal her away from her family

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and take her to Australia with me.

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Mathew fell for the country during a brief visit

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with work nine years ago,

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and Phillipa's been hearing all about it ever since.

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I've never been to Australia,

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but Mathew goes on about it all the time.

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It's the most wonderful place in the world, according to him.

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I just like the place, how warm it was, the climate,

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everyone seemed really friendly.

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But Phillipa's not convinced it's where their future lies.

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I'm kind of the only thing, really, in his way.

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HE LAUGHS

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Besides the weather,

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I don't think he's got any actual real-life reasons

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how it would be better.

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Mathew knows he'll have a battle on his hands

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to get his fiancee onside.

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In order for Phillipa to be convinced

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to move to the other side of the world,

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I need to have an all-singing, all-dancing job

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where I can come home every evening,

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have the weekends to ourselves

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and it be for at least a little bit more than what I'm on in England.

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And he's prepared to fight for what he wants,

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not just for him and Phillipa,

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but for future children they might have, too.

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A family out there would benefit a lot more

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from the Australian way of life than in England.

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After we're married, at some point we would like to start a family,

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so wherever we are, we need to be settled.

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But the prospect of starting a new family

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thousands of miles from the people she already shares her life with

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is too much for Phillipa to comprehend.

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Welcome to Matt's amazing quiz!

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My life completely and utterly revolves around my family,

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and theirs around me, as well.

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-Oh, I know this!

-Oh.

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-Do you not know it?!

-I don't know the name.

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I don't think Mathew appreciates the gravity of what he's asking.

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Who sang the song I Will Survive?

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That's an old-person question.

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I did have you in mind when I thought of this question.

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'They've been here for me, this whole time.'

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And if we now leave

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and, just, I don't have them in my life at all,

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I will find that really difficult.

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-Here you are, Ted.

-Ted, come here.

-Ted.

-Ted.

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Used to hanging out with her father regularly,

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she knows leaving would break his heart.

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My dad constantly jokes that I'm not going

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and won't even enter into a conversation with me about it.

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-You don't actually tell me anything.

-Nothing to tell.

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'Every time I speak to him about it'

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it's like "You're not going, you're not going!"

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So I think it'll be difficult for my dad.

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Ultimately Phillipa will have to choose

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between the man she's about to spend the rest of her life with

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and the family who've supported her this far.

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'I think it would be very important

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'for us to start married life on the same page

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'rather than I'm kind of leaning towards one thing,

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'she's leaning towards another.'

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It's a big deal, really,

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that I've got to make that decision for the both of us.

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Do they have radiators here?

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-HE LAUGHS

-No...

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-Just stop being you for a minute.

-No, seriously.

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To find out if Australia can offer the couple

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the lifestyle Mathew's been dreaming of,

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they're visiting the country's Western capital, Perth.

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After picking up a hire car,

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Phillipa and Mathew head to their base for the week

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in the coastal suburb of Hillarys,

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just a 30-minute drive north of the city centre.

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-Stop.

-I know how to drive, Phillipa.

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What will Phillipa make of her first taste of Aussie living?

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-Oh, it looks really nice.

-It looks very nice.

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First impressions are good.

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Looks lovely.

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So quiet and peaceful.

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But can Mathew keep the peace inside?

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-I'm happy. Are you happy?

-Yeah.

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-You're never happy!

-THEY LAUGH

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I'd probably just redo the whole thing.

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Really?

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Phillipa's lack of enthusiasm suggests

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Mathew's Australian campaign could be struggling to get off the ground.

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If this was all grassed off,

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it would be much more appealing to me.

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And I think everything as a whole has just been a bit like "Meh."

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Like, it's not really done anything for me.

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It's been nine years since Mathew was last on Aussie soil.

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I'm concerned whether it's going to be as good as I remember it to be.

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You're a different person now, as well.

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-It's just different priorities.

-I wasn't thinking about properties,

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I wasn't thinking about jobs or anything like that but now I am,

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but I'm hoping for a good result in my favour.

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And the week ahead will be his one and only chance

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to make Phillipa share his dream.

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For me to leave my whole family,

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I know I can speak to them every day and see them over the computer

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and whatever, but it literally has to tick every box.

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In the UK, Mathew and Phillipa live in a two-bedroom terraced house

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in the Rossendale area of Lancashire.

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I don't feel as a part of this house as, maybe, Phillipa

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or even the dog, to be honest.

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With Mathew's Army career often taking him away,

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he wants Australia to give him the feeling of home

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he's been missing.

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In the next house, when I'm actually living there,

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I'll be able to command a bit more...

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of a say.

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So what would the ideal home look like down under?

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I need a big garden, an outside seating area.

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I'd like it a bit more modern

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with a little kitchen-diner, maybe a separate lounge.

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-Don't want much.

-Three bedrooms as a minimum, please.

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-SHE LAUGHS

-Please, at the end!

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At least you've got manners.

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To find out what kind of house they could have,

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we'll show the couple three properties -

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two on budget, and a third which could be their dream home.

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Only after they've seen each one will they find out its value.

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Mathew and Phillipa have set themselves a budget

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of between £180,000 and £190,000.

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Go, go, go!

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The search begins in the coastal suburb of Alkimos,

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almost 40 minutes outside of central Perth.

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They're viewing a house at the Shorehaven estate,

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one of many new-build projects in the area.

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So, will this three-bedroom house hit the spot?

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The front garden's quite small.

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I don't think we need a front garden anyway, do we?

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No. I just hope that there's a back garden.

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Hmm, fingers crossed.

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First, inside.

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-Nice, bright entrance, isn't it?

-Yeah.

-Nice and big.

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But it doesn't take long for Phillipa to notice something

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she's not so keen on.

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I find it strange that the main bedroom's at the front.

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-Yeah.

-Is that just me?

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I don't know how I'd cope without carpet.

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If it's wooden or laminate,

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you'd have to wear flip-flops or slippers.

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I think it's a good start.

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Hopefully it'll just get bigger and better from here.

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Mathew's not giving up.

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Hopefully the open-plan living area will help.

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This is what I had in mind for an open-plan living space in Australia.

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Much better shaped than our kitchen.

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And you could be washing up while I'm eating my tea.

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HE LAUGHS

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You won't be getting any tea!

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This is definitely not an upgrade to what we've got, is it?

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You wouldn't move across the world for this.

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Mathew could be fighting a losing battle.

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Perhaps the master bedroom will improve Phillipa's mood.

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This is more like it.

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-Go through that door.

-Have a nosey.

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Oh, it's got an en-suite.

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Oh, well, that's just what we need.

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I hope there's another bathroom, because I'd want a bath.

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-Yeah, obviously a separate bathroom, shower...

-Yeah.

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..for the potential children we might have.

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One step at a time.

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Steady on, Mathew!

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It could be baby steps for Phillipa,

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who's finding it hard to see herself living here.

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This bathroom's quite small.

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And when the bathroom disappoints,

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even Mathew's enthusiasm is flagging.

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The rental property's bathroom's bigger than this,

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but that's not very big.

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Moving outside, how will the garden measure up?

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It's quite small, isn't it?

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It doesn't feel like it's a garden.

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-No, it's just like a little patio sort of situation.

-Yeah.

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-I don't know, it feels quite claustrophobic, doesn't it?

-Yeah.

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Phillipa's mind is made up.

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We need better than this to move.

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It's not a great start.

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But the couple still need to find out if their budget of £190,000

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would cover the cost of a house like this.

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I'm guessing £156,000.

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I'd be happy to pay about £140,000 for this.

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Anything more than that,

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I'd definitely be wanting more outdoor space.

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-Shall we find out?

-Yes.

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Wow! It's quite expensive.

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That's at the lower end of their budget.

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I don't really need to see anything else

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cos if that's what we can afford, then it's not...

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No point, is there?

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-Disappointment all round, really.

-SHE LAUGHS

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Oh, well.

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Well, we can see the others.

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-Yeah, thanks(!)

-HE LAUGHS

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It may be affordable,

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but neither Mathew nor Phillipa believe this house is good value.

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Hopefully they'll see more for their money in property two.

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It's in the much sought-after Vines area,

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a wine-growing region around 20 miles from central Perth.

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-Food and wine trail.

-Right, well, sold.

-I'd be happy, then.

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But will this three-bedroom house harvest a better reaction

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from the couple?

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Much better than the last property already, isn't it?

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-Yeah, loads better.

-It looks more like a home.

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Sounds good so far.

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-Well, it's got carpets, Phill.

-Oh, this is much nicer.

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That is really nice.

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It's got a fire.

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It looks like it might be pretend, but...

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-Yeah.

-..the fact that it's there is good.

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Could this be the house to get Phillipa fired up

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about Mathew's dream?

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Yeah, this is definitely a million times more homely

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-than the last one.

-Yeah.

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Mathew's happy, too.

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You cook, you eat, and you sit down and chill out, don't you?

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-SHE LAUGHS

-Yeah, I suppose.

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And then you go outside for a suntan.

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I really hope that the rest of the house kind of...

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-The theme continues.

-Yeah.

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Oh, see, this is more like it, isn't it?

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And it does.

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En-suite.

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The door's a bit annoying, how it's next to the shower and that, but...

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I think I'd just remove the door.

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I'd like a door.

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All right, OK.

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Slightly encouraged, Mathew goes in for the kill.

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Would you move for this bedroom?

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If all the other boxes were ticked, then yeah, this bedroom's lovely.

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That's what we're after.

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Unfortunately, the bathroom isn't washing with Phillipa.

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-Oh, no bath.

-No, very small.

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Do Australians just not like bathing?

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I don't want a house where there's not a bath.

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I didn't realise this was one of your things.

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I didn't, but I didn't think there would be a house without a bath.

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And outside, the mood's really taken a dip.

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See, it...

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-It's a bit small.

-It is a bit small.

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Obviously, we've got Ollie, the dog,

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so if we were to get chickens, as well,

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then they'd need that whole area.

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Well, we just won't get chickens, then.

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Simple.

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I want chickens!

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I think this outside space is fine.

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Just like the fact that there's no bath is fine.

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I think we'd get over it.

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-"We" would?

-Yeah.

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-OK.

-I'd move out here for this house.

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OK, bye, then!

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THEY LAUGH

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Well, that set the cat among the pigeons.

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So will discovering what this house costs ruffle more feathers?

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I think it's going to be about £211,000.

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I'm going to say £195,000.

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-OK.

-OK, let's have a look, then.

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Ah, what did you say?

0:17:170:17:19

-Winner!

-THEY LAUGH

0:17:190:17:22

That's almost £6,000 over budget.

0:17:220:17:26

I think that's a decent price, especially compared to the last one.

0:17:260:17:30

-You're getting a lot more for your money.

-Yeah.

0:17:300:17:32

I don't know if I'd move to the other side of the world

0:17:320:17:35

for this house for that price,

0:17:350:17:37

but it's definitely an improvement.

0:17:370:17:39

Property two had proven to be better quality,

0:17:410:17:44

and with the right jobs down under, it could be affordable,

0:17:440:17:47

but it's still not quite perfect.

0:17:470:17:50

Do you know where we're going, dear?

0:17:500:17:53

No.

0:17:530:17:54

The next house might tick more boxes.

0:17:570:17:59

In fact, we think it could be their dream home.

0:17:590:18:03

These houses are a lot more modern.

0:18:030:18:06

-Do you reckon?

-Mm.

0:18:060:18:07

It's in the suburb of Aveley.

0:18:070:18:10

With a shopping complex and schools close by,

0:18:100:18:12

it could be a good place to start a family,

0:18:120:18:16

but will the house win over Phillipa?

0:18:160:18:19

-Wow.

-Oh, wow, this is lovely.

0:18:190:18:22

-That is really nice.

-Yeah.

0:18:220:18:24

-Oh, wow.

-This is massive.

0:18:270:18:29

This is much more what I expected from an Australian home.

0:18:310:18:35

Yeah, the expensive one.

0:18:350:18:37

Mathew's already fearful it could price his dream out of the market.

0:18:370:18:42

Let's have a look.

0:18:420:18:43

Wow!

0:18:460:18:47

This is unbelievable.

0:18:480:18:50

See, that's a kitchen.

0:18:500:18:52

-Very, very, very nice.

-Yeah.

0:18:520:18:54

This is the kind of kitchen I had in my mind

0:18:550:18:58

as to why we should move out to Australia.

0:18:580:19:00

Now Phillipa's wondering about the price tag, too.

0:19:000:19:04

This could be, like, if we worked really, really hard...

0:19:040:19:07

THEY LAUGH

0:19:070:19:08

We just won't be able to ever afford to have children.

0:19:080:19:11

-Or a life.

-Or a life.

0:19:110:19:13

They're equally impressed with the master bedroom.

0:19:130:19:16

-Wow.

-Oh, wow. That's really big.

0:19:160:19:19

And it leads out onto that outside patio area...

0:19:200:19:23

-Yeah, that's lovely.

-..which is really nice.

0:19:230:19:25

What's in there?

0:19:250:19:27

-Wow!

-That is massive.

0:19:270:19:29

I could have a belt collection, as well, if we moved here.

0:19:310:19:34

Why have you just decided you want a belt collection?!

0:19:340:19:37

-Cos...

-Just because you've got a walk-in wardrobe?

-Well, yeah!

0:19:370:19:40

So much for tightening their belts!

0:19:400:19:43

This is a dream house for us, isn't it, really?

0:19:430:19:46

I think this house is amazing.

0:19:460:19:49

They're both bowled over,

0:19:500:19:52

but is it enough to entice Phillipa to the other side of the world?

0:19:520:19:55

We're not just leaving the house,

0:19:550:19:57

we're leaving the family, the friends, everything,

0:19:570:20:00

so it has to be something pretty amazing.

0:20:000:20:03

Onto the main bathroom.

0:20:050:20:07

Oh, look, Phill, there's a bath!

0:20:070:20:09

Thankfully for Mathew, the house delivers here, too.

0:20:090:20:12

Yay!

0:20:120:20:14

See, it's not much to ask for, is it?

0:20:140:20:16

How can you not want this?

0:20:160:20:18

With the added feature of a gym, things are really shaping up.

0:20:180:20:21

That doesn't do anything!

0:20:210:20:24

But is everything about to change?

0:20:240:20:26

Ooh!

0:20:290:20:31

This is different.

0:20:320:20:34

In a good way?

0:20:340:20:36

Still no garden area.

0:20:360:20:37

No, there's no grass, is there?

0:20:370:20:39

We've not actually seen any gardens.

0:20:390:20:42

It's not what Phillipa wants, but is she prepared to compromise?

0:20:440:20:48

I do think this outside space lets the house down,

0:20:490:20:52

but I don't think it would put me off.

0:20:520:20:55

Before they get too carried away,

0:20:550:20:57

the couple need to find out if, with £190,000 to spend,

0:20:570:21:02

this house could be affordable.

0:21:020:21:04

I think this house is awesome,

0:21:040:21:06

however, I also think it's too far and away from our budget.

0:21:060:21:11

How much do you think it's worth?

0:21:110:21:12

210.

0:21:120:21:15

I'd say a little bit more.

0:21:150:21:17

£224,000.

0:21:170:21:20

-Shall we find out?

-Yeah.

0:21:200:21:22

-SHE GASPS

-Oh, my word.

0:21:290:21:31

Yeah, I think you were right. I don't think we could afford this.

0:21:310:21:35

-Right now, anyway.

-Maybe in the future.

0:21:350:21:38

Maybe.

0:21:380:21:40

At almost £100,000 over budget, it's not achievable right now,

0:21:400:21:45

but could be something to aspire to,

0:21:450:21:47

if they can secure the right work and salaries down under.

0:21:470:21:51

Property one came in bottom of the couple's budget,

0:21:530:21:57

but it lacked outdoor space

0:21:570:21:58

and they felt it wasn't good value for money.

0:21:580:22:01

Priced at almost £6,000 over budget,

0:22:030:22:06

property two had the right location,

0:22:060:22:09

but its narrow back yard got the thumbs down from Phillipa.

0:22:090:22:12

Despite another small garden,

0:22:120:22:15

property three got both Phillipa and Mathew excited,

0:22:150:22:18

but almost £100,000 over budget,

0:22:180:22:21

it's the kind of house they could aim for in the future.

0:22:210:22:24

So, how will the day impact on their vote

0:22:260:22:29

between property in Australia and the UK?

0:22:290:22:32

Based on the properties we have seen today, our vote goes for...

0:22:330:22:37

-Australia.

-UK.

0:22:410:22:44

Why have you voted for the UK?

0:22:440:22:46

I just think that we'd genuinely get so much more for that money at home.

0:22:460:22:52

I think we'd only get maybe a bit of outside space,

0:22:520:22:54

which we wouldn't be using anyway because the weather's so bad.

0:22:540:22:59

At the moment I just think we could afford more at home.

0:22:590:23:03

Phillipa's vote for the UK hasn't completely surprised Mathew,

0:23:100:23:14

but it places even greater emphasis on the importance of finding jobs

0:23:140:23:18

that could help them prosper down under.

0:23:180:23:21

Back in the UK, Mathew's an electronics engineer in the Army.

0:23:220:23:26

I fix, predominantly, the electrics on armoured vehicles.

0:23:260:23:29

I've been all over the world, including Ghana and Afghanistan.

0:23:290:23:34

But he's ready for change.

0:23:340:23:36

I've been in the Army since I was 16,

0:23:370:23:39

and I am actually looking for my next career.

0:23:390:23:42

Phillipa's also on the cusp of new things.

0:23:420:23:45

Soon to qualify as a teaching assistant,

0:23:450:23:48

she's hoping to work with children who have learning difficulties.

0:23:480:23:51

If you spent ten minutes, half an hour, speaking with a child

0:23:510:23:55

and you can see the difference that's made to them,

0:23:550:23:57

that you've actually spent that time,

0:23:570:24:00

it makes you feel like it's a bit more worthwhile.

0:24:000:24:03

As the main visa applicant,

0:24:040:24:06

the pressure's on Mathew to secure the right job.

0:24:060:24:09

Ideally one that will give the couple more time together.

0:24:090:24:12

My Australian job will hopefully be more nine-to-five sort of thing,

0:24:120:24:16

not have to travel as much.

0:24:160:24:18

Yeah, I just really want to spend more time with her,

0:24:180:24:21

and just have a better life, really.

0:24:210:24:23

Exploring work prospects in Australia is a vital element

0:24:250:24:28

in keeping Mathew's dream alive.

0:24:280:24:30

Hoping to work with life-saving medical equipment,

0:24:300:24:33

we've arranged for him to meet engineering manager John Pereira

0:24:330:24:37

at Perth's Fiona Stanley Hospital.

0:24:370:24:40

How come that one's not yellow?

0:24:400:24:41

-Cos they're off-line at the moment.

-Oh, right, OK.

0:24:410:24:44

After a tour of the facilities,

0:24:440:24:46

Mathew gets straight to the heart of the matter,

0:24:460:24:48

to see if his skills are transferable.

0:24:480:24:51

Most of your English qualifications will be recognised over here,

0:24:510:24:54

but you have to apply for that recognition.

0:24:540:24:56

Knowing your skill level,

0:24:560:24:57

I'd probably look at being a field service engineer.

0:24:570:24:59

In a field service job,

0:24:590:25:00

would I be based here or would I be based somewhere else?

0:25:000:25:03

Field service, by its definition, is field services,

0:25:030:25:06

so then you would actually be moving from place to place.

0:25:060:25:09

That isn't good news.

0:25:090:25:11

While it's not international,

0:25:110:25:13

travel is something Mathew hoped to avoid.

0:25:130:25:16

What about the hours?

0:25:160:25:18

I'm currently working five days away from home,

0:25:180:25:21

so I don't get to see my partner very often.

0:25:210:25:23

What's it like being in Australia working?

0:25:230:25:26

We do try to keep the work-life balance correct

0:25:260:25:29

so that you do get your family time,

0:25:290:25:30

but if you're a field service engineer, it's a bit more varied.

0:25:300:25:34

You can probably be working some longer hours.

0:25:340:25:36

You might have to do some weekend work.

0:25:360:25:38

Variable hours are also far from ideal.

0:25:380:25:42

Meanwhile, Phillipa heads off to Hillarys Primary School

0:25:430:25:47

to meet with associate principal Gary Deere.

0:25:470:25:50

-Can you tell me a little bit more about the school, please?

-Sure.

0:25:500:25:53

-We've got about 560 kids at the school here.

-Right.

0:25:530:25:55

Within that we also have quite a few special-needs kids.

0:25:550:25:59

We have about 19 educational assistants here at this school,

0:25:590:26:02

looking after the kids who have special needs.

0:26:020:26:06

So, would my qualifications be transferable here?

0:26:060:26:09

You don't need a qualification to actually start.

0:26:090:26:12

Most of the educational assistants that we have here

0:26:120:26:14

would have started off as people who came in and did some relief work

0:26:140:26:17

-in the school.

-Yeah.

0:26:170:26:18

-Well, that's kind of how I started as well, so...

-That's right.

0:26:180:26:22

So, Phillipa will have to be prepared to take on

0:26:220:26:24

some casual work to begin with.

0:26:240:26:26

What about the salary?

0:26:260:26:28

Between 35,000 and 38,000 Australian dollars,

0:26:280:26:31

-which is probably about £18,000 a year.

-Yeah.

0:26:310:26:36

That's if it was a full-time job.

0:26:360:26:38

And we work on usually a six-and-a-half-hour day.

0:26:380:26:42

That's kind of what I was expecting.

0:26:420:26:45

£18,000 is the same amount Phillipa could hope to start on in the UK,

0:26:450:26:50

but what are her chances of getting a job down under?

0:26:500:26:54

I think, with your background, you would be quite a good candidate.

0:26:540:27:00

Your prospects are quite good to find employment here.

0:27:000:27:03

It's positive all round.

0:27:050:27:08

Back at the hospital,

0:27:080:27:10

Mathew's hoping his earning potential will soften the blow

0:27:100:27:13

of being back on the road.

0:27:130:27:14

Obviously you haven't got the direct experience,

0:27:140:27:17

so they'd probably put you on a junior level, about £45,000-50,000.

0:27:170:27:21

As you progress, £60,000-70,000.

0:27:210:27:24

Yeah. Even at the lower end,

0:27:240:27:26

that would be more than I'd be expected to get in England,

0:27:260:27:29

so that's really good.

0:27:290:27:30

-Well, this is Australia.

-THEY LAUGH

0:27:300:27:32

The potential to earn over £10,000 more

0:27:320:27:35

than he does in the UK every year is great news.

0:27:350:27:40

Now, that all-important question.

0:27:400:27:43

If I were to come to Australia today, would I get work?

0:27:430:27:46

Absolutely. The sky's your limit, really.

0:27:460:27:48

While not quite perfect,

0:27:480:27:50

Mathew's encouraged to know there are opportunities for him

0:27:500:27:53

outside of the Army,

0:27:530:27:55

and with a substantially higher wage packet.

0:27:550:27:58

Over at the school,

0:28:010:28:02

Phillipa's hooked up with education assistant and expat Jill McLaughlin.

0:28:020:28:07

So, you've, like, really settled in, then?

0:28:070:28:09

Amazingly so.

0:28:090:28:10

But my advice was to be, go straight in there,

0:28:100:28:13

just look at it as a big adventure, that's what we did as a family.

0:28:130:28:16

But we've certainly made the right decision.

0:28:160:28:18

-It's like I feel a bit of relief now that I've spoken to you.

-Absolutely.

0:28:180:28:21

-Especially because you've made the move, as well.

-Yeah.

0:28:210:28:24

It's like somebody has actually done it and it's gone OK,

0:28:240:28:27

and it can actually work.

0:28:270:28:29

Yes, it's awesome. We're a friendly bunch.

0:28:290:28:31

THEY LAUGH

0:28:310:28:33

-All different accents.

-You say "we" now, as well!

0:28:330:28:35

I know, I am, aren't I?! I just realised I'm doing that.

0:28:350:28:38

Reassured, Phillipa can't wait to tell Mathew about her day.

0:28:380:28:42

-Hi!

-Hello.

-You OK?

-You all right?

0:28:420:28:44

-Yeah?

-How'd you get on?

0:28:440:28:46

Yeah, really well, yeah.

0:28:460:28:47

I met one of the teachers at the school.

0:28:470:28:50

She come over from Scotland,

0:28:500:28:51

and she's been here about five years,

0:28:510:28:53

she's completely settled in, loves it.

0:28:530:28:55

I met the principal, as well.

0:28:550:28:57

He said my experience is completely transferable,

0:28:570:28:59

the job prospects are quite good.

0:28:590:29:01

Yeah, it seemed really positive, to be honest.

0:29:010:29:03

And despite mixed feedback at the hospital,

0:29:030:29:06

Mathew decides to focus on the positive news.

0:29:060:29:09

I spoke to somebody called John.

0:29:090:29:10

He's, like, the head of engineering in that hospital.

0:29:100:29:13

And he said I'd be all right for a job over here.

0:29:130:29:15

-Oh, right, cool.

-He said the salary was quite good,

0:29:150:29:18

about 90,000 Australian dollars,

0:29:180:29:21

which is about £45,000.

0:29:210:29:23

-Sounds really positive.

-Exactly.

0:29:230:29:25

Time to discover how the day's findings will influence their choice

0:29:270:29:31

between work in Australia and the UK.

0:29:310:29:34

So after our day looking at what jobs we could possibly get

0:29:340:29:36

in Australia,

0:29:360:29:38

our vote goes to...

0:29:380:29:39

-Australia.

-Australia.

0:29:440:29:46

I'm quite surprised you chose Australia.

0:29:480:29:50

I mean, mainly it's because of how positive YOU were about everything,

0:29:500:29:54

like, it's nice to hear you sounding so happy about something

0:29:540:29:58

outside of the Army,

0:29:580:29:59

like, looking forward to something else.

0:29:590:30:01

I'm just happy that you're happy, really.

0:30:010:30:04

Obviously you've got job opportunities as well,

0:30:040:30:07

so it makes it good for both of us, really.

0:30:070:30:10

With such positive news on the work front

0:30:170:30:20

leading to Phillipa's first vote for Australia,

0:30:200:30:23

Mathew's dream has survived another round.

0:30:230:30:26

With quality time together a rarity in the UK,

0:30:260:30:29

hopefully a chance to sample the healthy, outdoor lifestyle

0:30:290:30:32

Australia is famed for will add further ammunition

0:30:320:30:36

to his case for making the move.

0:30:360:30:38

As the couple head out to enjoy the sunshine in Perth,

0:30:420:30:45

Mathew is feeling confident about the day ahead.

0:30:450:30:48

Hopefully I can get another vote for Australia,

0:30:480:30:50

and normally we wouldn't get the chance to do this kind of thing.

0:30:500:30:54

Action man Mathew believes Australia will give them both

0:30:540:30:57

the opportunity to try out more exciting activities.

0:30:570:31:01

So what better way to get the adrenaline pumping

0:31:010:31:04

than a spot of jet skiing?

0:31:040:31:07

So this is how you start it,

0:31:070:31:08

this is the red one to stop the engine, OK?

0:31:080:31:10

After the required safety briefing,

0:31:100:31:12

it's time to speed off

0:31:120:31:14

into the lifestyle he's been promising Phillipa.

0:31:140:31:17

The day has gone off swimmingly

0:31:190:31:21

and Mathew's more enthusiastic than ever about a potential move.

0:31:210:31:25

We're moving to Australia now.

0:31:250:31:27

-Let's go find a house.

-SHE LAUGHS

0:31:270:31:29

And he doesn't give up over lunch.

0:31:340:31:36

So can we move to Australia now, please?

0:31:370:31:40

We'll see.

0:31:400:31:41

-Still no yes.

-SHE LAUGHS

0:31:410:31:43

Still no definite yes.

0:31:430:31:45

It's been a bittersweet experience for Phillipa.

0:31:450:31:49

'I've had a really enjoyable day spending the day with Mathew'

0:31:490:31:52

but it's just really, really strange to think that...

0:31:520:31:56

..like, I wouldn't be able to do this with my family.

0:31:570:32:00

Mathew knows what he's asking her to give up,

0:32:000:32:03

but he's not backing down.

0:32:030:32:05

She's always talking about contacting her family,

0:32:050:32:07

but I'm just trying to explain to her that this is better for us

0:32:070:32:11

and better for our future family.

0:32:110:32:14

I've just been brought up constantly around all these people.

0:32:140:32:18

I just think I don't want any children of mine to think,

0:32:180:32:24

well, I've took that away from them.

0:32:240:32:27

There could be trouble ahead

0:32:270:32:29

as, torn between her future husband and her family,

0:32:290:32:32

Phillipa contemplates the reality

0:32:320:32:34

of moving to the other side of the world.

0:32:340:32:37

It's not as straightforward as, like, do you like the weather?

0:32:370:32:42

It's just... It's so much more than that.

0:32:420:32:45

Meanwhile, has the lifestyle done enough

0:32:460:32:49

to get another joint vote for Australia?

0:32:490:32:52

Based on today's activities, we're going to vote for...

0:32:520:32:55

-BOTH:

-Australia.

0:32:580:33:00

Why did you vote for Australia?

0:33:010:33:03

It's important for me to think about us and our future

0:33:030:33:06

and the fact that we want to start our own family one day.

0:33:060:33:10

I just can't really think of a better place to do it.

0:33:100:33:13

Another vote for Australia is a great result for Mathew,

0:33:200:33:23

but he knows the move needs to add up in more ways than one.

0:33:230:33:27

To fund the lifestyle he wants,

0:33:270:33:29

the couple would be selling their UK home.

0:33:290:33:31

They believe it's worth around £95,000,

0:33:310:33:35

so we sent two estate agents round

0:33:350:33:36

to see if they're right

0:33:360:33:38

and the couple are about to find out the results.

0:33:380:33:41

I just don't want to be told that our house is worth less

0:33:410:33:43

than what we bought it at, to be honest.

0:33:430:33:45

I don't think that'll happen.

0:33:450:33:47

-I hope not, but I don't know.

-I don't think it'll be less.

0:33:470:33:51

I've got a feeling it'll be less.

0:33:510:33:54

Aw, look at the flowers.

0:33:540:33:56

It's quite a spacious kitchen, which is nice,

0:33:570:34:00

and nice, solid floors and wooden work tops.

0:34:000:34:02

I love that kitchen.

0:34:020:34:03

-SHE CHUCKLES

-Super garden.

0:34:070:34:09

It's quite unusual to find chickens in your garden.

0:34:090:34:12

-HE LAUGHS

-Ah, the chickens.

0:34:120:34:14

We're coming into the bathroom. Really nice and bright.

0:34:140:34:17

I think the only thing that would need doing

0:34:170:34:19

is maybe painting the ceiling.

0:34:190:34:20

You have done that now, haven't you?

0:34:200:34:22

-No.

-Have you not?

-No.

0:34:220:34:24

In today's market, I would value the property at £100,000.

0:34:260:34:28

For a quick sale, I would value the property at £95,000.

0:34:280:34:31

That's what I thought.

0:34:310:34:33

If the owners wanted to rent the property,

0:34:330:34:35

I would recommend a monthly figure of £475,000.

0:34:350:34:38

£100,000 is more than what we paid, so...

0:34:380:34:41

Yeah, slightly relieved now.

0:34:420:34:46

Yeah, definitely, it is a lovely house, so...

0:34:460:34:49

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

0:34:490:34:50

-We'll get a better one over here.

-SHE LAUGHS

0:34:500:34:53

Mathew wants a move to Australia at all costs.

0:34:550:34:58

To help work out how they would fare financially down under,

0:34:580:35:01

we've provided a cost-of-living comparison

0:35:010:35:04

starting with a weekly shop.

0:35:040:35:06

What are basa fillets?

0:35:060:35:08

-Fish.

-Never heard of it.

0:35:080:35:10

-You have it all the time.

-Do I?

0:35:100:35:12

Well, once they can agree on what they normally buy.

0:35:120:35:15

-So, that's mushrooms, they're more expensive.

-£1.01.

0:35:150:35:19

We actually eat quite a lot of mushrooms, really.

0:35:190:35:21

So far it looks like our shop here would be more expensive, doesn't it?

0:35:210:35:26

When they tot it all up,

0:35:260:35:27

they discover they'll be spending more on food.

0:35:270:35:30

So in Australia we'll be £18.10 worse off.

0:35:300:35:37

Which isn't dramatic, is it?

0:35:370:35:41

But Phillipa thinks they might be overlooking something.

0:35:410:35:45

Our weekly shop at the moment isn't that much

0:35:450:35:49

because you're not there.

0:35:490:35:51

It would be more than that.

0:35:510:35:53

Next to look at the bigger monthly bills,

0:35:530:35:56

basing their mortgage repayment on the second property they viewed.

0:35:560:36:00

-What's the difference?

-The difference is £88.62.

0:36:000:36:04

OK. It's not loads more, but it is.

0:36:040:36:09

Water's a bit more.

0:36:090:36:11

Electricity is a bit more.

0:36:110:36:15

It's just when everything's a bit more, isn't it?

0:36:150:36:17

-Yeah.

-It soon adds up.

0:36:170:36:19

All in, they'd be paying out almost £80 more per month in Australia.

0:36:190:36:24

But Mathew's higher earnings soon put a more positive spin on things.

0:36:250:36:29

That's £671.64 extra a month,

0:36:290:36:33

which is obviously a lot of money.

0:36:330:36:35

See, that'd make a huge difference.

0:36:350:36:38

Together, their joint income would be almost £1,000 more.

0:36:380:36:42

That's like another person.

0:36:420:36:44

I'm quite happy with that.

0:36:440:36:46

-Well, yeah.

-That will sort us right out, won't it?

0:36:460:36:49

The sums confirm they'd have

0:36:490:36:51

a sizeable amount of surplus cash down under.

0:36:510:36:54

Overall in Australia,

0:36:540:36:56

every month we'll be better off by £877.32.

0:36:560:37:01

-That's mad.

-Write that down on that piece of paper.

0:37:010:37:04

That's £10,000 more every year and Mathew's ecstatic.

0:37:040:37:09

I'll ring the estate agent now

0:37:090:37:10

-and I'll put a deposit down.

-OK, you go and do that.

0:37:100:37:12

-Make me a brew whilst you're there.

-All right.

0:37:120:37:14

Phillipa's staying grounded,

0:37:140:37:16

but how will they vote when it comes to finances in Australia or the UK?

0:37:160:37:21

After working out our earnings

0:37:210:37:23

and potential cost of living here in Australia,

0:37:230:37:25

our vote goes to...

0:37:250:37:27

-BOTH:

-Australia.

0:37:320:37:33

No-brainer, innit?

0:37:350:37:36

The realisation they could thrive financially in Australia

0:37:400:37:44

has been a real eye-opener

0:37:440:37:45

and could help Mathew lock down the life he wants,

0:37:450:37:48

but he knows messages from loved ones could prove to be an obstacle

0:37:480:37:52

Phillipa can't overcome.

0:37:520:37:54

Are you ready to see what our families think, then?

0:37:560:37:59

I'm ready, are you?

0:37:590:38:00

Yeah, I think.

0:38:010:38:03

OK.

0:38:030:38:05

-Hi, Phillipa, Mathew!

-Hiya, Mathew, Phillipa!

0:38:050:38:07

How are you doing?

0:38:070:38:08

-Hi, Phill. Hi, Matt.

-Hi.

0:38:080:38:10

Hope you're having a good time.

0:38:100:38:12

We've walked the dogs, fed the chickens

0:38:120:38:14

-so you don't have to hurry back.

-THEY LAUGH

0:38:140:38:16

She is my eldest and she's incredibly fierce.

0:38:160:38:20

There's no-one more loyal and protective.

0:38:200:38:22

She is like my second mum.

0:38:220:38:25

-HE LAUGHS

-'She looks after me.'

0:38:250:38:28

She's the absolute go-to girl.

0:38:280:38:29

If you need any help, it's Phillipa all day long.

0:38:290:38:32

Mathew would probably drive her crazy

0:38:320:38:34

because she's very, I would say, organised,

0:38:340:38:38

whereas Mathew, although he's in the Army,

0:38:380:38:41

is a little bit disorganised, isn't he?

0:38:410:38:44

-HE LAUGHS

-Cheers, Dad.

-'He can be.'

0:38:440:38:45

I think it would be really strange

0:38:450:38:47

if Phill and Matt do decide to stay out there.

0:38:470:38:49

So it'll be really strange not to talk to them day-to-day

0:38:490:38:51

and see how they're doing.

0:38:510:38:53

The thought of Phillipa having a grandchild of mine

0:38:550:38:58

and me not being around, it doesn't bear thinking about.

0:38:580:39:01

I'd hate to see her to go.

0:39:020:39:04

Just the thought of it...

0:39:040:39:06

We really are close and it will be such a big change,

0:39:120:39:17

that it will be hard to deal with it,

0:39:170:39:20

but I think it'll be a good change for Phillipa, so I'm happy.

0:39:200:39:24

Just make sure, Phillipa, that you think long and hard

0:39:260:39:28

about what you do and that it's right for you

0:39:280:39:31

and both of you.

0:39:310:39:32

Good luck with whatever decision you make.

0:39:320:39:35

If Phillipa and Matt do decide to go,

0:39:350:39:38

I'd be really pleased for them even though I'd be devastated.

0:39:380:39:42

I just couldn't even think about it.

0:39:420:39:44

How do you feel about that, then?

0:39:550:39:58

It was...

0:39:580:40:00

Even though I know...

0:40:000:40:01

I obviously know how they all feel,

0:40:010:40:03

it's quite strange

0:40:030:40:06

to hear them saying it like that.

0:40:060:40:08

Everyone thinks we should do it.

0:40:080:40:09

Maybe on a personal level, your dad doesn't.

0:40:090:40:12

Yeah, it would be difficult, but I know we've got their support.

0:40:120:40:18

As their week draws to an end,

0:40:240:40:26

encouraging messages from home may have left Mathew feeling confident

0:40:260:40:30

about making his Australian dream their reality,

0:40:300:40:34

but for Phillipa, will knowing she'd be going with her family's blessing

0:40:340:40:38

make the decision to move nearly 9,000 miles from home any easier?

0:40:380:40:43

Before arriving in Australia a week ago,

0:40:450:40:48

Phillipa had never spent a day without seeing her family

0:40:480:40:51

and Mathew's worried messages from home could set her back.

0:40:510:40:55

Right now, I think Phillipa's...

0:40:550:40:58

seriously debating on whether we should come out here.

0:40:580:41:01

I think she's got more demons to wrestle with than I have.

0:41:010:41:05

I'm one of, like, 16, 17 cousins and stuff. There's loads of us,

0:41:050:41:10

and for my, you know, potential children to not have that,

0:41:100:41:15

I just think is really sad.

0:41:150:41:17

With marriage in front of them,

0:41:190:41:20

the couple are contemplating what a move could mean for their future.

0:41:200:41:24

'I think we have been on a journey this week.

0:41:240:41:26

'To come out here and see the job prospects that we have,

0:41:260:41:28

'the environment we could be bringing up our family in,'

0:41:280:41:31

our future family,

0:41:310:41:33

I think it's been invaluable.

0:41:330:41:34

Even with her doubts,

0:41:340:41:36

Mathew believes Phillipa could come to terms with the distance.

0:41:360:41:40

I still think she can be persuaded to move out here

0:41:400:41:43

based on the good positive feedback we've had

0:41:430:41:45

from the rest of the family.

0:41:450:41:47

Hopefully it's Australia.

0:41:470:41:48

That's where I think we should be.

0:41:480:41:50

I just hope whatever decision we both make,

0:41:500:41:52

we're both happy with it

0:41:520:41:54

and we just support each other in whatever we both decide.

0:41:540:41:57

The couple now have to choose.

0:41:580:42:01

Do they pursue the life in Australia Mathew wants for them

0:42:010:42:04

or stay close to Phillipa's family in the UK?

0:42:040:42:07

After a fantastic week in Perth, our final decision is...

0:42:080:42:12

-BOTH:

-Australia.

0:42:170:42:18

I didn't think you were going to vote for Australia then.

0:42:220:42:24

I don't know if I did, but, yeah, I want to do it.

0:42:240:42:27

I want to start this next chapter of our lives here.

0:42:270:42:32

Good. Me too.

0:42:320:42:34

Not just for me and you, for the future, obviously.

0:42:340:42:37

Yeah.

0:42:370:42:38

Mathew was confident he could persuade Phillipa

0:42:510:42:55

Australia's the best place to start their married life

0:42:550:42:58

and he's been proved right.

0:42:580:43:01

With the potential to find well-paid jobs

0:43:010:43:03

and enjoy more time together,

0:43:030:43:05

it looks like the couple have found the perfect place

0:43:050:43:08

to start the next chapter of their lives.

0:43:080:43:11

We hope they have a wonderful wedding day

0:43:110:43:14

followed by a very happy future down under.

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After ten years of active military service, Mathew Royle-Evatt feels Australia is the place to settle down with his fiancee. But for Phillipa, the thought of leaving everyone she loves back in the UK is a scary prospect. The couple spend a trial week in Perth.