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Goodson Family

Series in which British families explore the idea of moving to Australia or New Zealand. Doctors Jo and Angus spend a trial week in Tauranga, New Zealand.


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If your head says your life in the UK is good,

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but your heart tells you it could be even better on the other side of the

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world, which would you follow,

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especially if it means moving your family to a country they or you have

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never even visited?

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Jo Goodson wants to give her family everything life can offer...

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We're trying to do what's best for our kids.

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..and believes a move to New Zealand could help her do just that.

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It feels like how you'd like England to be.

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But when a trial week Down Under throws up more questions than answers...

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She wants it to be perfect so it's an easy decision.

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I don't think it's ever going to be perfect.

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Will Jo decide they're better off at home or away?

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I just wonder, am I going to end up being very lonely?

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As one of the first places on earth to see the sun each day,

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New Zealand can bring a new dawn for those searching more from life.

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Continually outranking other countries on measures of wellbeing,

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it's no wonder it's seeing increased numbers of people calling it home.

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Recent figures show yearly net immigration has reached a record high

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of well over 60,000 people.

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Doctors Jo and Angus Goodson appear to have an idyllic life in the UK

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but mum Jo thinks something's missing.

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Sick of husband Angus having to choose between his patients and his

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family, she's prescribing a move to New Zealand as the perfect place for

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a more leisurely lifestyle with their children.

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So will a week Down Under meet Jo's expectations or reveal their life in

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the English countryside is too good to walk away from?

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After a marathon journey flying from London to Auckland via Dubai and

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then onto Tauranga, the family are relieved to arrive at their final

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destination and Jo's a step closer to her dream.

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Flying into Tauranga, I like seeing the houses along the waterfront

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and I can almost imagine myself living in one.

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The unfamiliar surroundings have piqued Angus and Freddie's curiosity.

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It's quite strange because you look at all these things on the internet

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and you're here and just kind of want to see it.

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If it was an English airport, it wouldn't look anything like this.

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-Which do you prefer?

-Probably this one.

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-There you go.

-Sold already.

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But anticipating some hurdles in the week ahead,

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Angus isn't committing to anything just yet.

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I'm quite worried about seeing friends and family.

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I'm kind of in denial about that.

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The family need to soak in as much as they can over the next seven days

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to help them make a decision on where their future lies for good.

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Meet the Goodsons - doctors Angus and Jo and their children,

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seven-year-old Freddie and Arabella, aged three.

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The family have found rural idyll in the Buckinghamshire village they call home.

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People stop me and say, "Now, you're the doctor and you're the one with

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"the Irish setters." So they either know your dog or your wife or your

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children, depending on which circle they are.

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You know, I've got half a dozen doors I can knock on if I need something,

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if I need advice, if I need help with my children.

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Our dogs love it, our kids love it, we love it.

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It's perfect.

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But the good life has come at a cost,

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with paediatrician Angus frequently working around the clock.

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On top of your clinical work you've got to do training stuff.

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On most of your days off you tell me you've either got to go back in the

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hospital for a bit or that you're going to have to put some time

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on one side to work later on.

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Finding he's often forced to choose between work and his family has been

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a bitter pill to swallow.

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Sometimes I stay late at work to avoid being here because the hardest

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thing in the world is to be here but not be here.

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The kids can't handle me being in the house but not being available.

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You know, "Where's Daddy?" Which is hard for them, it's hard for me.

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What can you see from way up there?

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Trees!

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Always ready for adventure, Jo thinks she's found the remedy in

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a country they've never even visited.

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What I hear about New Zealand, the hours are similar to the UK

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but the difference is they appreciate that

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you need a work/life balance and there's more a feeling of you've

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finished your shift, go home and see your family.

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Since close friends upped sticks and made the move, Jo's more convinced

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than ever their life would be better on the other side of the world.

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We have tried to persuade them to tell us what the downside is and

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it's become a bit of a standing joke that their reply is,

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"Everything's better in New Zealand."

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Angus can see the appeal, too.

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They appreciate things that we like, like sports and outdoor life,

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and things that feel like a lifestyle choice here

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are considered bread and butter there.

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Ultimately, they both want to provide the best childhood possible

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for Freddie and Arabella.

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It's probably more my dream than his,

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but I don't think he's against the idea.

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I feel like kids these days have to grow up a lot quicker than we did.

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Hopefully they can be younger for longer out there.

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I'll go on an aeroplane with you, Freddie.

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We're trying to do what's best for our kids and if we take them to

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New Zealand, it's because we think it's the right thing for them.

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But with Jo hoping to continue to be a stay-at-home mum in New Zealand,

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Angus is feeling the pressure of securing work there.

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We knew it's going to be supporting the family, so

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I don't think that's going to happen as easily as we think it might.

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And having spent much of his childhood living abroad,

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he's nervous about separating his children from loved ones.

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And they've got a fantastic relationship with their grandparents.

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I think that's an important thing for childhood, which I never had

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and you... You are taking that away.

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Angus knows when his wife puts her mind to something,

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she goes all out to make it happen.

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When I first met her, I had persuade her not go to the South Pole,

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mainly because I didn't want her to go with a couple of other men and

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I'd just met her. But that's what she was going to do,

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she was going to do kite ski down to the South Pole.

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If I talk about a dream and a pie in the sky idea,

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I already want to do it.

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I don't tend to bat around ideas that I don't want to do.

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Angus maintains moving your whole life 12,000 miles away is easier

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said than done.

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There's always been the dream of living abroad and it just feels like

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the longer you spend here, the more settled you get,

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the harder it is to do it.

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But Jo's not giving up.

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After lots of research,

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she knows the week ahead will be her one and only chance to find out

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whether the grass really is greener on the other side of the world.

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We have all the information. This is the last piece of the puzzle.

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We need to go and we need to see it, we need to experience it and at the

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end of that, we do need to make a decision.

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The family are spending their trial week on New Zealand's north island

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in the Bay of Plenty.

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After collecting their hire car,

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they head five miles outside the city of Tauranga,

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to their base in the beach town of Mount Maunganui.

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Named after an extinct volcano,

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the area is a magnet for active families like the Goodsons.

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-That is new.

-That's so awesome!

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I like the balcony.

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It doesn't take Dad long to spot why it's such a popular location.

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-Just there!

-Oh, yeah!

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Jo's hoping her family will jump feet first into the week ahead.

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But perhaps not quite this literally.

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And the excitement levels really rise upon this discovery.

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Oh, games room!

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With the children happily playing,

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upstairs Mum and Dad enjoy their beach view.

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You can tell you're not in England any more.

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Charmed by all they see, everyone heads out for a closer look.

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Despite having only been in the country a few hours,

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Jo and Angus have begun imagining what their life could be like.

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I like the idea this is not a holiday,

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you could actually be on the beach all year long.

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Look at the kids, they're just happy.

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It feels how you'd like England to be.

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It's a good start.

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But though moving is her dream,

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Jo also knows there's still lots to consider.

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We still need community, we still need friends.

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-Yeah.

-We can't leave the village just to go to the beach every day.

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Or it could be difficult to draw a line in the sand about where their

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future lies come the end of the week.

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In the UK, home for the Goodsons is a four-bedroom,

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semidetached house in Cuddington, a small village with a big heart.

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-Cuddington has a population of 500.

-Yeah.

-We probably know 300 of them.

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It's that kind of village where you just know everyone.

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There's a good community spirit, isn't there?

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For Angus and Jo to leave the village they love,

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a house in New Zealand will have to live up to some high expectations.

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We would want four bedrooms, we'd like open plan,

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we'd want a sizeable garden.

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I want to make sure we get a wood-burning stove and it has to

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-have double glazing.

-Jo's really annoying when it's cold.

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-She hates being cold.

-Yeah, I don't like being cold.

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If we could be near the beach as well, that would be great.

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Finding the right location will be key.

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I want to find the right sort of place where we can have that kind of

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knocking on doors community.

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Angus and Jo bought their house for just over £300,000 five years ago.

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Not wanting to give it up, if they do move, they plan to remortgage

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and release enough money to buy a house Down Under.

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We're quite dependent on the value having gone up because that's the

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equity we want to take out for a deposit in New Zealand.

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If everything goes to plan,

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their budget on a house Down Under would be around £400,000.

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To find out what their money can get them,

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today we'll show the family three properties -

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two based on budget and a third which could be their dream home.

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Only after they've seen each one will they find out its value.

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Their search begins in the Mount Maunganui area where they're staying.

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The Goodsons have already come upon some of its treasures like this

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beach, thought to be one of the best in New Zealand.

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With playgrounds, parks and cafes, there's plenty here for families.

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Property one is a four bedroom house just a stones throw away from the ocean.

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So the beach is just over there.

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Yeah. I definitely like the location.

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And the centre of town is over that way.

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Do you think that's single glazing or double glazing?

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I don't want to get cold. I don't like the outside.

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It doesn't look nice and I want a house that looks nice.

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With Jo's thoughts crystal clear on the exterior, they move inside.

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The outside is misleading.

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Shoes off, is it? OK.

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Phew, that's a step in the right direction.

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Let's go and see the kitchen.

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I like the fact that you look straight onto the dining room and

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the lounge and you can see what's going on.

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I'm wondering if we need a bit more space.

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Two dogs, two children, me cooking,

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you coming in from work and there's nowhere else.

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And Arabella's found another issue.

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There's no play stuff in the garden so I can't play in the garden.

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You can bring your own play stuff.

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Let's go and have a look at the garden, then.

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She's right, it is small and there is no play things.

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Honestly, the kids need more than this for a garden.

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Upstairs, they're coming to a realisation.

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The house is probably a bit small for us.

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It's way too small for us.

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I mean, maybe that just means we can't afford to live that close to

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-the beach.

-But is Jo prepared to compromise?

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I mean, I don't mind not looking at the beach when I get out of bed in

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the morning, but I want to be able to walk to the beach,

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I don't want to have to drive to the beach.

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I think that you can live a short drive from the beach and it's all fine.

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We want amazing, not fine.

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In the second bedroom, can Freddie's find lift the mood?

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Look at the balcony!

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Look at the balcony!

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Yeah, balcony's good.

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It's not long before Mum Jo's finding fault.

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So this would be a nice place for a cup of tea in the morning.

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-Yeah.

-Although, you've actually lost the view.

-The sea's just over there.

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-I think I'm looking at that house.

-You can't demolish that house.

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No, I know!

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While Mum and Dad discuss their points of view,

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Freddie lays claim to the master bedroom.

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This is going to be my room.

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Amazing!

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Until Dad Angus gets his say.

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This bedroom has an en-suite, which makes it my bedroom.

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Finally, a room for Arabella, which no-one's disputing.

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-My room!

-Oh, it's a little butterfly bedroom.

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-Happy, are you?

-But there are more pressing issues.

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Does that mean that's the only bathroom, then?

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-This one here?

-Well, that would be weird.

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-So when you've got guests, they're going to use your en-suite, are they?

-Yeah.

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It hasn't been the best of starts.

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I think it's a fabulous holiday beach house but I'm not sure it's a...

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It's not a live-in house. Yeah, we need something bigger.

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Yeah, and more bathrooms.

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The house isn't a perfect fit for the Goodsons, but the family are

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still curious to find out whether they could afford it.

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I'm going to say 375,000.

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I'll say 380,000.

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Our budget is around the 400,000 mark.

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-I think it's just a bit under.

-We both think it's under.

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-Yeah.

-Are we going to do it?

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-Let's turn it.

-Let's do it.

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380. Come on, Mummy, high five!

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That's £20,000 under budget, but it's not enough to sway them.

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So to live this close to the beach is going to cost you...

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-It's expensive.

-Yeah, basically.

-What a surprise(!)

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For their second viewing,

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the family leave the coast behind the more rural setting of Kaimai.

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Around 15 minutes from central Tauranga, it's still close to

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schools and amenities and being further out could

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provide more value for money.

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It's a ranch. It's absolutely huge.

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With a very generous five acres, there's more than enough space at

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this impressive four-bedroom house for the children and the dogs.

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-You can go into the woods. Wow!

-Go on, then, go!

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Better than a stinky old beach, isn't it?

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-Lemons! Lemons.

-Or limes.

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Angus knows exactly what to do with some of the fruit growing in

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-the garden.

-Freddie, you just need a gin bush...

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-Yeah?

-..and a tonic well, and we're sorted.

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Inside, they're making all the right noises, too.

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SQUEALING

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I'm sure that was a squeal of delight, Arabella.

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This is way bigger.

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Wow! This is amazing!

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Oh, look at the wood-burning stove.

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That's one thing off Jo's list and Angus checks for another in the kitchen.

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OK, I'll do the J test.

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-Single glazing.

-Oh, pants.

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-So this is your living room.

-I like the way it goes all the way round.

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-Yeah, it's a good set up.

-Oh, look, home cinema.

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You pull this down and that's your screen to watch TV.

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-Look at this!

-Oh, that's beautiful, isn't it?

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This is definitely the mummy and daddy bedroom.

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An en-suite and large closet give the master bedroom plenty of scope.

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Forget walk-in wardrobe, we could just put Arabella in here.

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Jo needn't be so resourceful,

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with four large bedrooms there's more than enough space for everyone.

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Every bedroom has windows on two sides.

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Yeah, it just feels nice.

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With Freddie and Arabella taking a break,

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Jo and Angus are happy to find a family bathroom.

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-Family shower.

-That's all right. That'll do.

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Nice to have a bath, though, wouldn't it?

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There's just no pleasing some people.

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The double basement gets a thumbs up from Angus.

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It is a good space for storing things, isn't it?

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Storing? This is my playroom.

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But Jo's starting to look at the bigger picture.

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I think it's gorgeous, I think the kids would be really happy,

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I think the dogs would be really happy, but I think the kids will go

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to school and I think you will go to work and

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then I just wonder, am I going to end up being very lonely?

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If you want this kind of space, you're not going to get it in the

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-city, are you?

-I don't want to be in the city.

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I don't know what I want any more.

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I don't want to be in the city and I don't want to be in the middle of nowhere.

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I feel like I'm saying I want to be back in the village.

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Not a good sign.

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Maybe the price will give Jo more to be cheerful about.

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I'm going to say 420,000.

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I think it's 450.

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-OK.

-Turn it over, turn it over.

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430,000. Wow.

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That's £30,000 over budget.

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I think we've probably seen two extremes.

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So we've seen right by the seaside in like the most desirable part and

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well outside of town, amazing space.

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-So we've got to find the right compromise.

-Yeah.

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I haven't given up on the beach dream yet.

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Daddy reckons, Freddie, that it's OK to be about a 15, 20-minute drive

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from the beach. We can go there on weekends.

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Hopefully the third property of the day will give them everything they want.

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It's near the town of Katikati, around 20 miles north of Tauranga.

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Set on almost an acre of land and overlooking the sea,

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we think this coastal house could be their dream home,

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but is it the right house for Jo and does it meet with her image of New Zealand living?

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-It's big, isn't it?

-It's big but you've still got people around.

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Built in the 1940s, this property has lots of historic features,

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which isn't everyone's cup of tea.

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It's a bit too old-fashioned.

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-Is it?

-Old-fashioned telephones.

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You could phone the Queen on that, Freddie.

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But will it get the royal seal of approval?

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It's got a nice view.

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-Look at that!

-Look at the view!

-Single glazing.

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Moving on, the family check out the kitchen.

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-That needs modernising, that can stay.

-Yeah!

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Possibly a few changes needed inside,

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but outside they're content for one thing to remain the same.

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So that's your protected view.

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Yeah, it's a reserve, so no-one's ever going to build on that.

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While the children play, Jo and Angus explore the rest of the property.

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-This room's really cute.

-Isn't it? It's like a sun room.

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-It's not our style...

-You'd modernise it, though, wouldn't you?

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I'm not good at interior decorating.

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So you say you'd modernise it but I don't actually know what that means.

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Jo could have her work cut out for her in this house.

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I know what you're going to tell me, take all the furniture out,

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put in Freddie's furniture.

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Yeah, but I'm keeping this.

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-That is just amazing.

-You've been looking for one of those for ages.

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Look at that!

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I'm sensing some sarcasm, Angus.

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The master bedroom might be more to their taste.

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Oh, this is the best thing in the house.

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A balcony offering views across to Tauranga Harbour should give them

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more to think about.

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This is what I would call a redeeming feature.

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Got a beautiful view, you've got a nice, big garden,

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the house has got lots of space.

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It's old and cold.

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Oh, dear, Jo's mind is made up and a hidden space off the side of the

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bedroom puts the final nail in the coffin.

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What would you do in here?

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I'm not sure I want to know.

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Yeah, I might burn this room.

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There's a sign there that says trap door.

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Is that worrying?

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It doesn't look like the Goodsons have their dream house after all.

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But with £400,000 to spend, could they afford a house like this?

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I'm guessing 537,000.

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-I think 537,000.

-I reckon for 475.

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Time to turn the card.

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What, did Daddy get it bang on?

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Well, no, he was 1,000 out.

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That's almost £80,000 over budget.

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What you're paying your money for is really size and location.

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I'm still curious as to how far from the beach you need to be to be able

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to afford something bigger.

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I think beach-side living is not currently within our budget.

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You're going to have to compromise on something.

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I think the search continues.

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It's been a day of two halves for the Goodsons,

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with Jo and Angus debating country versus beach living.

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Property one came in at £20,000 under budget and gave Jo the beach

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location she wanted,

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but the couple were underwhelmed by the lack of space.

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Angus was enchanted by the more rustic setting of property two.

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So much so, he wasn't concerned it was £30,000 over their budget.

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While property three offered beautiful views,

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at almost £80,000 over budget, it was out of reach for now.

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So when it comes to the vote,

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what will they decide between houses in New Zealand and the UK?

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-New Zealand.

-UK. You didn't get your beach house.

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No, that sums that up.

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-Yeah.

-But you want to stick us out in the middle of nowhere?

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No, I just want a big garden.

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-I think we can get one.

-Based on the houses we saw today,

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I would rather be in Cuddington.

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If Daddy can find me a house with a big garden that's not too far from

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the beach, I will change.

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The week's barely begun but Jo's vote for the UK suggests she's

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already questioning her own dream.

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Angus, on the other hand, seems smitten by the vast open spaces the

0:21:330:21:37

country offers prospective home-buyers, but he knows to afford

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what he wants will mean securing the right job Down Under.

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Back in the UK, Angus is a paediatrician doctor at the

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John Radcliffe Hospital in Oxford.

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I love my work. I love where I work and I love the people I work with.

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It's endlessly varied and it's challenging.

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Due to soon qualify as a consultant,

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Angus fears after eight long years of training,

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it could be difficult to find the right job in New Zealand.

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New Zealand's much smaller in terms of population, so I imagine the

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number of paediatricians required is going to be less and

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I'd imagine that the popular areas where we would want to go,

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they'll be much less demand.

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But keen to have more family time, he's hoping the country could

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provide him with a better work/life balance.

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With the family's future in New Zealand resting on his ability

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to secure work, Angus heads out to consider possibilities.

0:22:340:22:38

It's an important day and he knows it.

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If today doesn't go well or it's not right,

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I think it's going to be bad news for the move,

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which is going to cause problems.

0:22:450:22:47

We've arranged for Angus to meet medical director Hugh Lees

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at Tauranga Hospital and foremost on his mind is finding out whether

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he'll be able to practise medicine in New Zealand straight away.

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If you're recognised as a specialist in the UK...

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-It would be recognised here.

-It's usually relatively easy to get

0:23:000:23:03

recognition here.

0:23:030:23:04

That's a relief for Angus, but how easy will it be to actually find a job?

0:23:040:23:09

There are always parts of the country which are more difficult to

0:23:090:23:13

staff or who attract fewer applicants,

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which would give you a greater chance of finding a position.

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So you think the way to do it would probably be to find somewhere where

0:23:180:23:22

the need is greater and then move from there?

0:23:220:23:24

That would certainly be an easier road.

0:23:240:23:27

It is as he feared. The family will have to be flexible on where they live.

0:23:280:23:33

But with Jo already worried about finding the right place to set up

0:23:330:23:36

home, this won't go down well.

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Meanwhile, keen to find out more about local education,

0:23:420:23:46

we've arranged Jo and the children to visit Bethlehem College in Tauranga.

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We want learning to be fun and active.

0:23:500:23:52

-They certainly look happy.

-Yeah.

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With the children busy, Jo explains to principle Marcus Norrish she's

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nervous about son Freddie making the move from a village school to a college.

0:24:000:24:04

It is a big place but really we're one college with three schools

0:24:040:24:08

inside it, which provides that community which is really what you

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have in the smaller schools, isn't it?

0:24:110:24:13

That sounds very good.

0:24:130:24:15

Freddie loves playing rugby at home and Jo wants that to continue.

0:24:150:24:18

One of the cool things about Bethlehem College is it's got these

0:24:180:24:21

amazing sports club. Being physical is really important to

0:24:210:24:24

New Zealanders and getting out there and playing sport is really important.

0:24:240:24:27

Part of the reason we're looking at New Zealand is we want more sport

0:24:270:24:30

for our children. To come and look around a place like this is amazing.

0:24:300:24:33

You're going to find that here. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, definitely.

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Outside, Jo's concerns about Freddie settling in are put to rest.

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He's found some like-minded people, so he's happy and that makes me happy.

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Back at the hospital,

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Angus is hoping his earning potential will bring better news.

0:24:520:24:56

So what could someone in my position expect to earn?

0:24:560:24:58

Probably NZ140-150 a year.

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Sure. That's about the same, actually.

0:25:020:25:04

Then there's a 13 incremental steps that come after that,

0:25:040:25:08

so it increases quite quickly.

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As a hospital doctor in New Zealand, Angus could start on around £70,000,

0:25:120:25:16

£9,000 more than he currently earns in the UK.

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It's a considerable amount.

0:25:200:25:23

To round off his visit, Angus meets doctor expat Vivian Hobbs to find

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out about the all-important work/life balance he hopes will

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improve with the move to New Zealand.

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There's a lot more control here, I think, about the number of hours you

0:25:330:25:37

work and a lot more, I guess, penalties for the hospital if you work over that.

0:25:370:25:41

What's life outside of work like here in terms of spending time with the family?

0:25:410:25:46

We're at the beach most weekends or going for walks in the bush or

0:25:460:25:50

out on bikes and skirmishes.

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So, definitely a really good life/work balance.

0:25:510:25:55

Music to Angus's ears.

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With all things considered, how will he vote when it comes to choosing

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between work in New Zealand or the UK?

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New Zealand.

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I think it's a relief that I'd be working in a pretty similar set-up

0:26:070:26:12

to home so I don't feel like I'd necessarily be losing anything.

0:26:120:26:16

I'm not sure if this would be the same everywhere,

0:26:160:26:19

this is just one city, but it's encouraging.

0:26:190:26:21

Relieved he could get the kind of work he's after,

0:26:210:26:24

Angus has lodged his second vote for New Zealand,

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and Jo's waiting patiently to hear the outcome.

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But, first, she's excited to share her findings.

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The school was massive.

0:26:340:26:35

To begin with Freddie was a little shy but the headmaster, Marcus, was

0:26:350:26:39

really, really nice and Freddie says he wants to go to that school.

0:26:390:26:43

Really? Do you think Freddie would settle quite easily there?

0:26:430:26:46

Definitely.

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-So what happened at the hospital?

-It was really good.

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-It's a nice hospital.

-You could see yourself working there?

0:26:500:26:53

Yeah, based on the hospital I saw, I did vote New Zealand.

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It looked like it would be a nice place to work.

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They did say that it wouldn't be easy to come in and get a job

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somewhere like this, as a desirable place.

0:27:030:27:05

It would be easier to get a job somewhere less desirable and then

0:27:050:27:10

-establish yourself.

-Where's less desirable?

-I don't know.

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This isn't what Jo wanted to hear.

0:27:130:27:15

The question over where they would live means her dream is still far

0:27:150:27:19

from complete.

0:27:190:27:20

Despite promising work prospects for Angus and a potential school for

0:27:250:27:29

Freddie passing the test,

0:27:290:27:31

it looks like Jo could be starting to lose faith in her own dream.

0:27:310:27:36

Will a day out exploring the Kiwi countryside be enough to reignite

0:27:360:27:41

her passion for making the move and keep the rest of the family on side?

0:27:410:27:46

Making the most of this rare time together,

0:27:510:27:54

the Goodsons set off to Te Puna Quarry Park in Tauranga.

0:27:540:27:58

You can imagine dinosaurs here, can't you?

0:27:580:27:59

A morning bush walk gets everyone's imagination working.

0:27:590:28:03

But they quickly find themselves getting a little too close to nature.

0:28:050:28:09

-That's mint.

-Lemon. Oh, it's horrible.

0:28:090:28:12

No, it stinks!

0:28:120:28:13

At least Angus is keeping a sense of humour about it all.

0:28:140:28:17

Oh, that one's really stinky. Try this one.

0:28:170:28:20

Oh, that's a stinky one, too.

0:28:210:28:23

Soon it's clear how much the children are enjoying Kiwi living.

0:28:230:28:26

I like the lifestyle and how beautiful it is.

0:28:260:28:32

It is beautiful, isn't it?

0:28:320:28:34

And little Arabella is as charmed as her brother.

0:28:340:28:37

I want to live here forever.

0:28:370:28:38

Next, the family check out Tauranga waterfront where they come across

0:28:430:28:47

some interesting characters.

0:28:470:28:49

Freddie, we'll look after these dogs and train them and brush them.

0:28:500:28:54

To round the day off, the family hit the beach.

0:28:550:28:58

Come on, Freddie!

0:29:070:29:09

It's been a fun-filled day but the time to reflect on the week so far

0:29:090:29:14

has left Jo questioning their potential new life in New Zealand.

0:29:140:29:18

So Angus likes the hospital, the kids like the beach,

0:29:180:29:21

we all like the school, but I can't find the location

0:29:210:29:24

where we could put our house down.

0:29:240:29:26

But Angus and the kids seem to really like it and be quite set on it.

0:29:270:29:31

I almost feel like I'm trying really hard to catch up with them.

0:29:320:29:35

Angus senses a shift in attitude.

0:29:360:29:39

When we started I wasn't sure and Jo was really keen, but now she seems

0:29:390:29:42

to be a little bit overwhelmed by the whole reality of the thing.

0:29:420:29:46

So far, the week has surpassed his expectations.

0:29:460:29:49

People are friendly, the weather's been fantastic, the scenery is

0:29:490:29:54

stunning and it's a standard of life here that's just good.

0:29:540:29:58

I don't know, maybe I'm just on a high from being away with the family.

0:29:580:30:02

But he knows there's still some way to go.

0:30:020:30:05

I'm still dreading that whole friends and family thing because

0:30:050:30:08

that's the big elephant in the room.

0:30:080:30:10

I think that's probably the big spoiler, if you like.

0:30:100:30:14

Overall, it's clear Jo and Angus need peace of mind.

0:30:140:30:17

I don't want to go back to England and still not know where we're going

0:30:170:30:21

to live in the future.

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Difficult decisions lie ahead.

0:30:220:30:24

Meanwhile, the family need to choose which lifestyle they prefer.

0:30:240:30:29

Will New Zealand or the UK win the day?

0:30:290:30:31

Based on the fun we had today, our vote is...

0:30:330:30:37

-New Zealand.

-New Zealand.

-New Zealand.

0:30:420:30:45

-UK.

-You're voting England?

-New Zealand.

0:30:450:30:48

-I miss our little house.

-You miss our little house?

0:30:480:30:52

And you miss your friends?

0:30:520:30:54

If you hadn't taken me to the beach, I might have said UK...

0:30:550:30:58

-But we took you to the beach.

-But I like the beach.

0:30:590:31:02

Their day exploring New Zealand's natural landscape has given Jo

0:31:060:31:10

confidence to pledge her first vote for the country.

0:31:100:31:13

But with her still struggling to see where she'd fit in,

0:31:130:31:16

we've arranged for the Goodsons to spend some time with other mums.

0:31:160:31:19

Given Freddie's love of the sport,

0:31:190:31:22

where better to do that than the local junior rugby club?

0:31:220:31:25

I didn't think it would be nice to stand on the touchline and not be

0:31:260:31:29

-freezing cold.

-We have a great climate here and I think that's why

0:31:290:31:33

our city's grown because it's been a little bit of a secret for quite a

0:31:330:31:35

few years and now there's so many young families.

0:31:350:31:38

Hopefully the opportunity to meet other families who've made the move

0:31:380:31:41

from the UK will give Jo the reassurance she needs.

0:31:410:31:44

And you'll make some of your greatest friends with mums from school.

0:31:440:31:47

You've got this network of people you just call and...

0:31:470:31:50

-It's a trust here.

-We've got that in our village that I think Jo's

0:31:500:31:53

-worried about losing out on.

-When I first came over,

0:31:530:31:55

I thought I'm in a unique situation but I wasn't at all.

0:31:550:31:59

There's just more of a permission to do life together.

0:31:590:32:01

-You've done a good sales pitch, there!

-Good job.

0:32:010:32:03

Slowly but surely, Jo is reconnecting with her dream.

0:32:100:32:14

But, invariably, a move to New Zealand needs to be within the

0:32:140:32:18

family's financial means.

0:32:180:32:20

Up for consideration is their UK home,

0:32:200:32:22

which they believe to be worth around £350,000.

0:32:220:32:26

But they plan to rent it out rather than sell, so we've sent round two

0:32:260:32:30

estate agents to get current valuations of its worth.

0:32:300:32:34

Four bedroom, semidetached family home in a popular village.

0:32:340:32:38

-Let's have a look.

-It's a good-sized family sitting room.

0:32:380:32:42

It's been thoughtfully extended, nice and bright.

0:32:420:32:44

This is a great family garden, plenty of room for trampolines and slides.

0:32:440:32:48

Two enormous dogs.

0:32:480:32:50

Generous sized master bedroom with plenty of room for storage and a

0:32:500:32:55

bright and airy ensuite.

0:32:550:32:57

It's very strange seeing your own house, isn't it?

0:32:570:32:59

In today's market, I'd value this property at £395,000.

0:32:590:33:04

For a quick sale, I would value this property at £385,000.

0:33:040:33:08

-No way!

-I value this house at £395,000.

0:33:080:33:12

For a quick sale, I would market it at £385,000.

0:33:120:33:16

-Exactly the same.

-That's unbelievable.

0:33:160:33:18

If the owners wanted to rent this property, I would suggest a monthly

0:33:180:33:22

rental of £1,400 per month.

0:33:220:33:24

-That's a bit tight.

-I would suggest a monthly rental of £1,350 per

0:33:240:33:29

-calendar month.

-That's a bit more disappointing, actually.

0:33:290:33:31

I think to get the houses we want out here we're going to have to sell

0:33:310:33:35

it, which is a bit of a shocker.

0:33:350:33:37

With the realisation they'd have to put the home they love on the market,

0:33:370:33:41

the rest of the figures will really need to stack up.

0:33:410:33:44

I'm quite looking forward to this.

0:33:440:33:46

To help, we've given the couple a breakdown of living costs.

0:33:460:33:49

First up, it's the weekly food bill.

0:33:490:33:51

Sparkling water...

0:33:510:33:52

Ouch. £5.52.

0:33:520:33:55

-More than double.

-£5.52!

-More than double!

0:33:550:33:58

I might have to drink tap water.

0:33:580:34:00

In all, they'd be paying almost £10 more for food in New Zealand each week.

0:34:020:34:06

That's pretty good, actually.

0:34:060:34:07

I thought it was going to be way more than that.

0:34:070:34:09

A good start, no shocks.

0:34:090:34:11

Moving onto the bigger monthly bills.

0:34:110:34:14

-You calculate this time.

-No worries.

0:34:140:34:15

The couple look at mortgage repayments,

0:34:150:34:17

basing their calculations on the second house they viewed.

0:34:170:34:21

-UK cost 963, NZ cost 1,400 but the difference is...

-437.

0:34:220:34:29

-If you want a bigger garden, you have a bigger mortgage.

-Sure.

0:34:290:34:32

Jo's digging her heels in about Angus's countryside living.

0:34:320:34:36

Gas, £54 in the UK.

0:34:370:34:40

-Yep.

-£90 in New Zealand.

0:34:400:34:42

-Ouch.

-But presumably if it's a warmer climate, you're using less,

0:34:430:34:46

-aren't you?

-When they tot it up,

0:34:460:34:48

the sums show they'd be paying out over £500 more per month,

0:34:480:34:52

but Jo's quick to make a suggestion.

0:34:520:34:54

437 of it is the mortgage, so if I take that off,

0:34:540:34:57

then it's only £100 a month more.

0:34:570:34:59

So if you buy the house you can afford and not house you want,

0:34:590:35:01

then we're talking £100 a month more...

0:35:010:35:04

-Yep.

-..which doesn't sound ridiculous.

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With Jo writing off Angus's dream home, they move on to look at salary.

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So you would get £538 a month more.

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They quickly realise they'd be marginally better off in New Zealand.

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We were £537 more expensive and you earn £538 more.

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So we've got an extra pound in our pocket.

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A meagre amount but not cause for concern.

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I'd say looking at those figures, we can afford to move to New Zealand.

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So we can get a bigger house, bigger garden.

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-That's quite encouraging.

-Until...

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You've still got to find me a house that I actually want to live in.

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So maybe we could get something a bit closer to the beach.

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Seriously?!

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Jo's determined to get her away, but when it comes down to money,

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will the Goodsons vote for finances in New Zealand or the UK?

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Based on the facts and figures we've seen today, our vote is...

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-New Zealand!

-New Zealand!

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-Excellent.

-We can make it work.

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It comes in tight but it's the right side.

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The numbers in New Zealand look the same as the numbers in England,

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so there's nothing scary about that.

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Albeit modest, Jo and Angus are optimistic about their financial gain.

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They now know they can afford a life in New Zealand.

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But it's the loss of their family and friends that's more worrying.

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They decide to watch messages from home together.

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This is the one I've been dreading.

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-Is it?

-Yeah!

-I want to know what they're going to say to us.

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I know but it's... It's the big reason why you wouldn't move out, isn't it?

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Hi, Jo, Angus, Arabella, Freddie.

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-Hello, Family Goodson.

-Hello, Angus.

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-Hello, Jo.

-Hello, Jo and Angus.

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The kids are really missing Arabella and Freddie.

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Angus has done really well, Angus is getting on with his career.

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He's the kindest person in the world and he's a very good dad.

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Angus, he's been a fabulous son-in-law.

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I couldn't wish for better.

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Jo is not just my little sister, she's my confidant,

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I look up to her hugely.

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She's just surrounded with life and she's just such a superstar.

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Arabella, what can you say about a three-year-old?

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Full of fun but a typical young girl.

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Freddie's an outdoor person. He'll love the rugby.

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They're as bright as buttons and very clever and fun to be with.

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They light up your life.

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There's no two ways about it, they are such amazing kids.

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You can be in the most beautiful place in the world but what you do

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miss is people. Yeah, we shall miss them dreadfully.

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It's really hard to put into words how much I will miss them but huge

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amounts if they disappear.

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I will miss them.

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It's going to be very hard to cope because we see the children probably

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every week.

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Both of them have been very good at making sure that we've been very

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much involved with the grandchildren.

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So, yes, we will miss the grandchildren tremendously.

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I worry about Freddie and Arabella and not having the close

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relationship we have now.

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You just have to decide whether leaving your friends and your

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family and the community we've got is going to be worth the big move.

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It's something that Freddie and Arabella possibly will miss and

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maybe regret in later life.

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But it's your choice, not mine, so I'd ask you to think about it.

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That's hard. Thanks, Dad.

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Mum and Dad send the children out to play while they reflect on what

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their loved ones had to say.

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You know, the children are not going to have another childhood and

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they're not going to have other grandparents, that is the reality.

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I was thinking about this earlier, with you being at work, you know,

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you see your mum once a month, you see your friends once a week.

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Whereas, I see people every day because I'm at home with the children.

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Yeah.

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So I think I'm going to feel it more than you do if we were to go.

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I feel more confused than I was before we came.

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Messages from home have left Jo and Angus feeling conflicted about the

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best way forward for their family.

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So as their week in New Zealand draws to an end, will they vote with

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their head or their heart when it comes to deciding

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where their future really lies?

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When they arrived in New Zealand, it was Jo and her family's first

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time in the country of her dreams but their trip has delivered mixed emotions.

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I think I have been trying to weigh it up.

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You know, with each experience is this good enough

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to give up friends and family in order to have that?

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Jo, I think, has been up and down during the week.

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She wants it to be perfect so it's an easy decision.

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I don't think it's ever going to be perfect.

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Messages from home have been hard on them all, especially the little ones.

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I will miss all my friends back in England.

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That's probably the main thing I am thinking about,

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especially after watching the video.

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Yeah.

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I miss everything.

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For Jo, the past seven days have been a wake-up call.

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I think because I've been at home with the children for the last four

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years, my life has very much been the village.

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So I think I've suddenly realised how far removed and how I'll be

0:40:560:41:00

starting over in a way that perhaps the others aren't so much.

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In a change of fortunes,

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it's now Angus who's enamoured with the idea of living there.

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There's an excitement about it that you can't really detail down in cost

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of living expenses or the right school or everything.

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It just feels exciting.

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It's just something that's there that got to me.

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With a final vote edging closer, the family need to come to an agreement.

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I think we either do this all together,

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you know, holding hands and leap off the cliff otherwise not at all.

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I could see myself fitting in to here.

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I really could.

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It's not exactly what I would want, so, yeah,

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there comes a point where you've just got to say,

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are we going to or are we not going to?

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I think once we make the decision, we need to not look back.

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After much soul-searching, where will the Goodsons decide to call home?

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-New Zealand.

-New Zealand.

-New Zealand.

-England.

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Hey, you chose New Zealand!

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Come on.

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Yeah!

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-And you want to stay in Cuddington?

-Yeah.

-Baby boo.

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I thought you were wavering. I thought you were.

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I found it a hard decision to make.

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I still can't quite see what my life would look like in New Zealand,

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but if you guys are happy, I know I will find my place wherever we are.

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And what about the little one? I think she's young enough maybe to adapt.

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I think we'd have a good adventure here.

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Yeah, I can see that.

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Despite some reservations throughout the week,

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Jo's decided to stand by her dream, and with Angus convinced

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New Zealand's the perfect fit for his family,

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it looks like the Goodsons could soon be on the move.

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We wish them all the very best of luck.

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Doctors Jo and Angus spend a trial week in Tauranga on New Zealand's north island.

Jo would like her husband to have a more leisurely lifestyle for the sake of their children, but Angus is worried about finding a job down under and separating the kids from their grandparents.