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and nothing -- but nothing on the scale of what we're in the USA. More

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details online. -- what we're getting in the USA.

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Hello and welcome to One Hundred Days.

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The Turkish President blames the Dutch

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for one of the worst massacres in modern European history.

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As the row with the Netherlands intensifies, after Turkish ministers

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were banned from political rallies there,

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President Erdogan makes this inflammatory claim.

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We know the Netherlands and the Dutch people

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We know how rotten their character is from their massacre

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The Prime Minister of the Netherlands says the comments

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The row looks set to overshadow tomorrow's Dutch election.

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The president of Turkey is behaving increasingly more hysterical

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hour by hour and I want him to tone down and to calm down.

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In Washington the Republican plan to replace Obamacare would increase

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the number of Americans without health cover by 24 million

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The north-eastern US states of New York, New Jersey,

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Pennsylvania and Virginia have declared states of emergency

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as a huge winter storm sweeps in, bringing heavy snow.

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And reliving every parent's nightmare -

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Professor Robert Kelly tells us what life's

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been like since his interview, and his family, went viral.

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It's been pretty unreal. We didn't expect any attention like this at

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all. We certainly never had anything like this in our life. That

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Hello I am Katty Kay in Washington, Christian Fraser is in London.

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Next month Turkey will hold a referendum on changes

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to its constitution that would grant Recep Tayyip Erdogan

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If he wins the vote, the position of Prime Minister

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will be abolished in favour of a new "executive presidency" -

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Polls suggest Turks are evenly divided on the issue.

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To win, Mr Erdogan might need the support of the millions of Turks

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who live in countries across Europe and can vote in the referendum.

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On Sunday the Dutch government, stopped Turkish ministers

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German states have taken similar action.

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In response Mr Erdogan labelled the Dutch - "Nazis" -

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and blocked the return of the Dutch Ambassador.

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Today Mr Erdogan invoked the Srebrenica massacre when,

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in 1995, 110 Dutch peacekeepers failed to stop the killing

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TRANSLATION: My dear friends,...

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We know the Netherlands and the Dutch people

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We know how rotten their character is from their massacre

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In the past few hours our colleague Ros Atkins got this response

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from the Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte.

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I have to say that what he said today about Srebrenica is

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completely unacceptable and a rewriting of history.

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The president of Turkey is behaving increasingly more hysterical

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hour by hour and I want him to tone down and to calm down.

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this is not helping at all and it is an acceptable. He said that people

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in the Netherlands should vote in the interest of Turkey. People in

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the Netherlands should vote in the interest of the Netherlands. The

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Netherlands is a very proud people and country too. What is the

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President playing at? It's an extraordinary escalation of

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inflammatory rhetoric which is designed for domestic purposes

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exclusively to rally his Nationalist voter base who love this sort of

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thing. Their strongman president standing up to Europe and presenting

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Turkey as a victim of oppression from Europe. That the Europeans is

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giving Turkey lessons on freedom of speech when actually they are

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abusing human rights and dispersing Turkish protesters in a very violent

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way. It is really something that is designed for this half of the

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country that supports President Erdogan. This pro-government

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newspaper today used a play on words, not very subtly, to talk

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about how Mark Rutte is a dog. That is very much taking the message

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literally. Another pro-government paper talking about how a simple

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apology is not enough from the Netherlands. Hammering home this

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idea that Turkey has the moral high ground here. This secular newspaper

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says thanks to Germany and Holland's actions, the yes campaign in the

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referendum held in foreign half weeks' time about boosting President

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Erdogan's powers will get two points more because people are really

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rallying behind his side on this issue. In the much more pro-European

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side of the country, they are recalling in horror at the way

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Turkey is calling out Nato alleys in this way. -- Nato allies. Let's just

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move it away from the row for a second and focus on this referendum.

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How much power is it going to vest in President Erdogan if he wins?

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Nothing short of the biggest political shake-up since Turkey has

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had since the foundation of the independent nation in 1923. It would

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change from a prime ministerial to a presidential republic. He would have

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vastly enhanced powers. He would be head of the executive as well as

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head of state. He would be able to elect laws by decree, point judges,

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prepare the budget and it would give him much bigger powers. He says that

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Parliament would have greater oversight of the President and would

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be able to answer more to the parliament but this is very much the

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climax of his career. He is going guns blazing for this referendum and

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this whole campaign with Europe is designed to that effect. Thanks very

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much. What is this row doing for Mark

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Rutte's chances? According to polls this afternoon, it seems to be doing

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him good. He is performing better in the polls today than he has done for

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months. Some people in the Netherlands had suggested that it

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would be in his interest to let the row escalates but that argument has

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evaporated today. People today have been so offended and so by what

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President Erdogan has said, he spoke about state terror, he made

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reference to the Srebrenica massacre, he called this country a

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banana republic. He has succeeded in unifying all politicians behind Mark

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-- Mark Rutte and saying he is right to reply in the way that he did.

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It matters because Turkey is so 'crucially' important

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Geographically it is, of course, one of the largest landmasses

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separating Europe and the Middle East.

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And since 2011 Turkey has been heavily involved in the conflict

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They have been pushing back IS from their southern border.

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Last month Syrian rebels - backed by Turkey - took back

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the northern Syrian town of al-Bab from IS.

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There are complicating factors - the Turkish forces have also been

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attacking Kurdish fighters who are armed and supported

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And recently they have cooperated with the Russia military,

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On top of all that Turkey is a hugely important partner

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in helping Europe deal with the migrant crisis.

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They have taken in just under three million people who have

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escaped the fighting in Syria, many of them trying

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The deal the EU struck with Turkey last year led to a sharp fall

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in the numbers making that perilous journey by sea to Greece.

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In return for that better policing, Turkey received a big cash hand

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out and some political concessions as well.

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With me now is the former US ambassador to Turkey

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When you listen to what President Erdogan has been saying, is he

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acting increasingly irrational, is it politics, what is going on? It

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has gone very bad, very fast. This is the Erdogan I know from 2008-10.

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He exploits situations to advance his political agenda. This is

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working on the ground in what will be a tight referendum for him. The

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Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte is happy about this because his numbers

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are going up at the expense of Geert Wilders who Erdogan doesn't want to

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see win. Both sides are actually benefiting from this. What does it

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do to Turkey's chances of one day joining the European Union? People

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are not going to forget the things he has said to Germany and Holland

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over the last couple of days? It is going to further diminish what most

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people think is a slim chance that Turkey would become part of the

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European Union? Is it basically giving up on the ambition to join

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the European Union? Turkey has a greatly beneficial customs union, 1

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million Dutch tourists and $22 billion investment alone that they

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don't want to give up. Turkey doesn't want to give up the idea

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that it is a European Union so it will maintain the charade of wanting

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membership into the future. We have spoken a lot about the situation of

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the State Department and the fact that Rex Tillerson doesn't have a

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deputy of the staff to get to grips with the problems he needs to get to

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grips with. Is this that in normal times the Americans would be able to

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do something about? Would they be able to if Rex Tillerson had staff

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in place? Where did the United States wants to intervene in this,

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given the fact that we are on the ground in a very confused situation

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in northern Syria, I don't think so. I think the US will step out of it.

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Rex Tillerson and his acting deputy Tom Shannon are more than capable of

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acting effectively on something like this with or without the agreed

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pathetic situation of staffing in the State Department. So I suppose

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it is less of a concern, this row that might blow over, more of

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concern is where President Erdogan is taking the country and how

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unstable it might become in the future. We are worried about that.

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Roughly half the population want to see him sees these powers. This is

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not democratic. I thought, French fifth Republic and the American

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Constitution, we have had some experience of this, however, in the

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hands of someone who may not respect democracy as much as we might hear

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in America, that can be very problematic and people in Washington

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are very worried about where President Erdogan is taking the

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country, for sure. We are taking some time looking at populist

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leaders and their characters and policies. Are you suggesting that

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people are looking at President Trump and saying he is copying the

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style of people President Erdogan. People who have spoken to him say he

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has the ability to act rationally but some of those with nationalist

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ideals and played to a populist audience who can beat thin-skinned

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and it back at critics in a way that it seems President Erdogan is doing

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in language that might be outrageous but plays to their base. Is that a

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characteristic of populist leaders in this day and age? I wonder. We

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will move on and talk about health care.

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We've suggested before on this programme that the Trump Presidency

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represents a test for populist movements - today that test hit

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a hurdle, in the form of hard data on health care reform.

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Governing, it seems, is a lot harder than campaigning.

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Mr Trump's promise to repeal and replace Obamacare has bumped up

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against the cold reality of a study from the non partisan

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Congressional Budget Office showing the Republican's health plan

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The report estimates 14 million people will become uninsured by next

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Rising to 24 million people over the coming decade.

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Though that will create savings

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of 337 billion dollars over ten years.

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Rajini Vaidyanathan has been taking a closer look at how

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This woman has made it on her own in the way of work. She and her husband

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own a small jewellery business. Being self-employed, they don't have

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a boss to cover health care insurance. They struggle to pay

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medical bills until President Obama introduced his health care law. When

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the affordable health care act was passed, we were able to get a

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reasonable insurance policy that covered a lot more. The deductible

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went from a 10,000 family deductible down to 3000. Now they are concerned

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that their bills will rise as President Trump repeals Obama care.

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The Republican replacement would cut up from subsidies and instead offer

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a year end tax credit. I don't think we could pay upfront costs per month

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that we are able to cover now. We've had good coverage of it now. We just

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have to stay healthy and educated about the programme. Others are glad

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to see the back of the Obama care plan. I didn't want to have to pay

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for insurance and be fined if I'd went. Frank voted for Donald Trump

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and backed his health care plan even though he may lose out. They may

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drop people of the insurance plan because they still have got health

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care if they go into the emergency room. This comes down to cost, how

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watch people pay for themselves and how much they bear the cost for

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others. The government plan could cut the federal deficit by hundreds

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of billions but some doctors are unclear how it will affect patients?

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I think it may change the winners and losers but it is not going to

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eliminate losers, it is going to change the problems people encounter

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but not address the problems. That has been the dilemma in American

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health care for decades. The system divides patients as much as it does

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doctors. You are fine. Your best protection against this health care

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system is not to get sick. Our North America Editor

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Jon Sopel is here. 50 or so days into the Tron

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presidency and his pace has stuck with him firmly. Do you think these

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numbers mark the beginning of this base thinking, hang on the second,

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you promised to look after the common man and you are giving the

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rich a big tax cut? It could be the issue that separates Donald Trump

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from his base if things go badly. This could be it for the Republican

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party and the leadership. There are so many layers of complexity in

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this. Donald Trump, it's easy, cheaper, better. In government, it's

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fiendishly complicated, isn't it? What does he do with House

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Republicans who thought they could vote for it, it might fail, I'm

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going to get blamed in two years in elections. No thanks. I don't want

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to have anything to do with it. How much political input does Donald

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Trump put into it? Does he want his name closely associated with it? If

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he goes too much in one direction, he loses the libertarian right who

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don't want government interference. Too much in the other direction, he

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loses other people. It is a really delicate balancing act and I think

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there are people who in private quiet moments are thinking, why have

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we opened this Pandora's box? Could he have a pizza and bowling night

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and hope to pull some of them in? That's what he's doing tonight. The

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budget committee meets in the house tomorrow and it is full of rogue

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Republicans. He is the negotiator in chief and he prides himself on

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bringing home the deals. If he can't does he shift the blame to them? I

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hate to do the only time will tell and so which is the lame answer when

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correspondence don't want to stick their neck out. He has put a certain

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amount of political capital in, he won't want to be defeated because I

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think it will be a huge moment in the early stage of his presidency if

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he had to admit, you know I promised you that thing, I can't do it. You

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just have to think of the toxic nature of the adverts Democrats will

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be able to run if they are able to say in two years' time, there could

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be 24 million people without insurance as a result of Republicans

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having supported this about. It may be unfair but who said politics was

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fair? Donald Trump has a very difficult job knowing which way to

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jump, knowing how far to commit itself, using how much political

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capital on this. Already talking about the midterms. Not getting into

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the small print about health care but this gives a very good example

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of how costs could go up. This is for people who earn $26,000

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annually. That's what they pay at the moment in premiums under Obama

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care. Look what happens according to this report when this new system

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kicks in. For 64-year-old people, it jumps dramatically. That is nearly

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half the salary of the 64-year old, much cheaper for the 21-year-old who

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never goes to the clinic. An increase of six times for the older

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people, who are the ones who vote in the elections. All the more

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incentives for the Republicans to address this. President Trump

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campaigned on this idea that he was going to help poor Americans and

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make sure they weren't forgotten. This plan, as it stands, sacrifices

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the needs of poor Americans and gives a tax break to wealthier

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Americans. Is that something that they are going to want to go into

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the mid-term elections supporting? It doesn't sound very populist. How

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did it go down in your household this morning with all of the snow?

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The snow was very popular. My son got a day of school on his birthday.

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He was thrilled. I've got to intervene in this debate even though

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I'm not meant to be in this section. I walk my dog along from where Katty

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lives, and they hadn't dug out their pavement. You are very good citizen.

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Get Now out of the studio! Christian, I told you yesterday

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that it was cold here in the US - This was the view for millions

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of commuters across America's Winter Storm Stella has forced

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the closure schools, flights are cancelled,

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and the snow ploughs are out This is the view right

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now in New York. You have to say we do whether big in

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America. What's it like? You don't get snow

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like we do here in New York. We had powdery snow in the morning and it

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has turned into sleet and icy snow that when it hits your face is

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really painful. What's making the conditions worse are the rough

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howling winds that knock you off of your feet when they get going.

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Officials have said that despite the fact that New York City hasn't borne

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the brunt of the storm, not the 20 inches that they had forecasted, it

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is still icy conditions that they are worried about. Particularly on

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the roadways. They say it could be very treacherous. They have spent

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1500 ploughs throughout New York City to try and clean up for

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tomorrow when icy conditions could make it harder to clean up so the

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city can get up and running and get over the massive disruption we have

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seen today. Just looking at these pictures. These small buggies with

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ploughs on the front. If this happened in the UK, there would be

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all sorts of problems for weeks. They deal with it better in New

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York, don't they? Absolutely, Christian. We have the subways

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running still. The aboveground subways have been shot. The roadways

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are still open although speed limits have been imposed. In upstate New

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York where they are getting really hit, they are closing stretches.

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LaGuardia airport, 99% of flights have been cancelled. We are seeing

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the same across the New York metropolitan area airports. Even

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though officials are hoping that schools will reopen and companies

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will reopen. They are suggesting delays may last for a day or so at

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least in addition to that. Officials are you trying to grapple with the

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disruption we have seen. For the moment, thank you very much. One

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very quick good news story. A Democrat and Republican Congress but

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who had flights cancelled. Driving together from Texas to Washington to

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try and get to one of their votes in time. A rare bipartisan story for

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as. Weather-related. Well done. Voting politics aside.

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You're watching One Hundred Days from BBC News.

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Still to come for viewers on the BBC News Channel

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Scotland could get another independence vote

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but would the European partners

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welcome them to the fold in a post-Brexit Britain?

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And a leaked recording of US House Speaker Paul Ryan

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reveals some scathing comments about Donald Trump -

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what's interesting though is the timing of the leak,

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That's still to come on 100 Days, from BBC News.

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Fine and mild weather for the UK, not making news headlines. What is

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going on in North America is. That north-eastern storm dumping snow

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inland, away from the immediate east coast in the north east of the USA.

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The jet stream becoming more powerful as the cold air comes out

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of North America this week, that means that the jet stream becomes

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much more active and will affect our weather towards the end of next

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week. High pressure going into Wednesday. We have scenes like this

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today, near York, plenty of sunshine with blossoms doing well. In

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Northern Ireland, another lovely day. Inter to light, under clearer

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skies, parts of northern Britain, there will be a touch of Frost for

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some of those. A bit damp and drizzly, strong winds in northern

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Scotland, showers becoming confined to the Northern Isles. A mild night

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further south with plenty of cloud. The cloud will thicken from the

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West, for Wales, western England, for Northern Ireland, outbreaks of

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rain into western Scotland. Some sunshine in eastern Scotland.

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Elsewhere in England and Wales, there will be some sunshine. In the

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longer lasting spells, it will feel quite warm again. A rather cloudy

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story in Cheltenham as the festival continues. A strong breeze and the

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temperature coming down later in the week. Looking ahead to Thursday, the

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weather starting to become more active, a weather front through

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Scotland and Northern Ireland with heavy showers and strong winds.

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Cloudy weather into much of England and Wales. By Friday, a stronger

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system will take rain from north-west to south-east with the

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wind picking up and temperatures coming down as well. Things feeling

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different by the end of the week with the stronger jet stream coming

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into play. Cooler, wetter, and windier by then.

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I'm Katty Kay in Washington, Christian Fraser's in London.

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A reminder of our top story: The Turkish president steps

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up his attacks on the Netherlands, accusing the Dutch of

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having a rotten character and blood on their hands.

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And coming up: It's the interrupted interview which went viral.

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We speak to the family behind the famous video about how they're

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The First Minister of Scotland caught the British Prime Minister

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off guard yesterday with a demand for a second referendum.

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The Scottish National Party argues the vote should be held

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between the autumn of 2018 and the spring of 2019, when

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But the power to offer a referendum rests with Theresa May.

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"The nations of the UK will leave the EU together," she says,

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which means it is highly likely Scotland will need to reapply

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for European membership if the nationalists can win

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He is a Labour MEP and a member of the Committee on Constitutional

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Affairs within the European Parliament.

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Would Scotland have to reapply if they get independence, could they,

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as Nicola Sturgeon seems to be suggesting, carry on being a member?

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If they become an independent state, they would have to apply to become a

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member. OK, so supposing Scotland gets its independence, wants to

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become a member again, and they are on the road to access in, is full

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membership guaranteed, rather conditions attached to that? They

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would have to negotiate and reach an agreement on an accession treaty,

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which would have to be approved by the European Parliament and by every

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Government of all the other member states, and ratified by their

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national parliaments. In your experience, how long does that take?

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That usually takes quite a long time, but of course, other countries

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that have joined and had a different starting point. Scotland already

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applies all existing EU laws, so that part of it need not be too

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long, but the need for national ratification by 27 also different

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national parliaments, some of whom might not be in a hurry, one thinks

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of Spain, that part might be somewhat longer. Spain said they

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would go to the back of the queue, the Spanish Foreign Minister. There

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are many other countries that have applied to join the EU. I think it's

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possible probably to jump that queue, but your starting point would

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be at the back. You would move up a bit because you are already ready,

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in a way, but you would still have that fundamental problem that at the

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end you need national ratification by 27 National parliaments. Every

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other country has too agreed. To be clear, it has to be unanimous, all

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27 have to agree on the accession. Spain is the example you mentioned.

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Yesterday, we interviewed a member of the SNP who said we always raise

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the name of Spain, but are there other countries that might object to

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Scotland becoming a member? I don't know, I doubt it. I can't think of

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any who would have a particular objection. Spain may not be. We

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don't know, of course. What we do know is that the Government in

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Madrid is anxious not to make this an easy, matter-of-fact thing to do

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when it is faced with the possibility that Catalonia may

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declare independence to go down the same route. Plenty to think about

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there. Richard Corbett, thanks for your thoughts.

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Two of the three main candidates in the French election are now under

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It's a pretty extraordinary statistic.

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Francois Fillon, the centre-right leader campaigned as Mr Clean

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He denies accusations that he paid his wife and children

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for work they didn't carry out and promises to fight what he calls

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He now doesn't have the issue just a Penelopegate but of the lovely suit

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he was given. I suppose you would call it suitgate - 13,000 each, so

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they must have been fantastic, but they were given to him. Why is he

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not dropping out? It is a good question. There are

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plenty in his own party asking the same question. They spared him the

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walk of shame today. The media expects him -- expected him to

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appear tomorrow, but he nipped in today. He said he would stand down

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if he was formally charged, but he has said he is not going to do that

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because it is a left-wing conspiracy and the investigating magistrates

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are left-leaning. If you look at the polls, I was going to say that he

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doesn't look to have much of a chance, running third in all the

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polls, but he is only four points behind, then today we get another

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story about Mr Macron, who is under investigation, it looks spurious,

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but when he was at the economy ministry, they awarded a contract to

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a PR company without putting it out to tender. Does that mean he is

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responsible? I don't know. We started this by saying two of the

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three, but it now looks like potentially three out of three have

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clouds over them. The politicians have a tendency towards financial

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corruption, ordered French investigators need something to do?

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If you ask people in France, there is a general problem about party and

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campaign financing. If you are in the game long enough, it seems to

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me, in France you are going to be prone to some kind of investigation.

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Another thing I spotted today, just before we finish, is a picture that

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has appeared on the Twitter feed of Nigel Farage. No words, just a

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picture. Nigel Farage was asked about Marine Le Pen, whether he

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would support her in an election. He said at the time he thought she was

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quite brilliant as a performer but had a real problem with the party.

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He doesn't like the racism and anti-Semitism, and they distanced

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themselves from the France National in the past. The question is, will

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he campaign for her, go to France and campaign alongside her? He never

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did that as the Ukip leader. When you send out a photo of the two

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people together, it does look chummy.

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At least two people have been killed during a fireworks factory

:38:58.:38:59.

This amateur footage shows the moment fireworks start

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You can see the person behind the camera then running for cover.

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Some people, including children, were wounded by debris.

:39:12.:39:15.

The EU's highest court has ruled that companies can stop employees

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from wearing visible political or religious symbols.

:39:19.:39:21.

Courts in France and Belgium had asked the European Court of Justice

:39:22.:39:25.

to rule on discrimination cases brought by women who'd been banned

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from wearing Islamic headscarves at work.

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We knew long before November's election that Donald Trump

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was going to have to win without the support of many

:39:44.:39:46.

We knew that senior Republicans, like Speaker of the House Paul Ryan,

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So it should come as no surprise to learn there is a recording

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which has just been published in which the House Speaker

:39:58.:40:00.

was less than complimentary about the future president.

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What's more surprising is where it came from, and the timing.

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His comments are not anywhere in keeping with our party's

:40:05.:40:08.

There are basically two things that I want to make

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really clear as for myself as your Speaker.

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I am not going to defend Donald Trump, not now, not in the

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That call, leaked by Breitbart, was recorded on October

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And a day later, there was this from Donald Trump.

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"Our very weak and ineffective leader, Paul Ryan, had a bad

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conference call where his members went wild at his disloyalty."

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This intrigues me. There is this huge row where Paul Ryan, a budget

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hawk, is trying his best with what he has been served up by Donald

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Trump, and then Breitbart put this out, and they are of course linked

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to Steve Bannon, President Trump's right-hand man, so was there a link

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to the White House ear? It is very curious timing, this

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late, because at the moment, the White House really needs Paul Ryan.

:41:10.:41:14.

He is defending them on national television programmes here,

:41:15.:41:17.

defending their health care bill, doing what he can to rally the

:41:18.:41:20.

Republican party to get the health care bill passed, and then the tape

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comes out and it seems to be a kick up the pants by him, and why would

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you do something like this to somebody that you need, if indeed

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those links between Steve Bannon and Breitbart are as close as they used

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to be? Would you do it for political

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covering in case it all goes wrong? You are Machiavellian, Christian!

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We are playing you at clip that went viral over the weekend.

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What will it mean for the ride -- the wider region? Shifting sands and

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relations with the North may change? Pardon me. My apologies... What will

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this mean for the region? North Korea... South Korea's policy...

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Still makes me laugh every time, Christian. That clip has been viewed

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more than 16 million times on you Tube. Professor Kelly has been

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inundated with media requests. Here is what he told us.

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This is my wife, this is my son and this is my daughter.

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And to be able to talk to you, rather

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than just seeing you running around in the background.

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Chung-ha, how has it been for you these past few days?

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The reality is, for around 48 hours, you were the most

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When you watched it back, which I'm sure you did,

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could you appreciate what a perfect piece of physical comedy it was,

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And we've watched it multiple times too, and

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Everyone seems to think it is pretty hysterical,

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so we understand why people find it enjoyable, catching a

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And of course, your wife had a major role

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in making it funny, flying around the room

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Did you find it funny watching it back?

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We were worried actually that the BBC would never call us

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That was our first response, was mortification.

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We thought we had completely blown our

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It's OK. We still love the Kelly family. Great way to end. We'll be

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back tomorrow. Goodbye.

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