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This is Business Live from BBC News with Victoria

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Europe's largest discount airline - Ryanair - warns that security fears

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and intense competition could hit profits.

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Live from London, that's our top story on Monday 23rd May.

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Despite reporting a 43% increase in profit, the Budget carrier

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Ryanair has warned of tough times ahead - we'll hear from one of

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Also in the programme - sowing the seeds of a mega-takeover!

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German pharma giant Bayer makes a bid for US

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A potential tie-up would form the world's biggest

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to date with the markets - where dismal trade data for Japan

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pulled down the Nikkei - in an otherwise mixed

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Europe is being pulled down by commodity stocks right

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across-the-board. Are you a whiz in the kitchen, always mealtime a mess?

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We will get the inside on a business which is trying to make cooking

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easier. It comes up with recipes and sends you the exact measurements.

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But at what cost? We will meet the founder.

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And as a new guide to elevator etiquette is published -

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People who take the lift only one floor?

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Let us know, just use the hashtag BBCBizLive.

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Hello and a very warm welcome to Business Live.

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When a 43% uplift in profits is just not enough.

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Some people and some industries are just too hard to please.

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Europe's biggest budget airline, Ryanair, announced a big

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rise in net income - but it fell short of expectations.

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What's more - that profit growth is going to be cut right back -

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to just 13% for the coming year, according to the company.

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There's a big battle going on in the skies over

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A price war is raging between carriers on specific routes,

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Many of the traditional airlines are now leaner,

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after adapting their business models to the challenge set out

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No longer are you guaranteed a free meal on a full service

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The big boys have also launched their own

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These include Air France's Trans-avia, IAG's Vueling

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So - what does the Finance Officer of Ryanair have

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As we look into next year, we are looking at about a 13% increase on

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last year's results. We will have our focus on costs, which is always

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the case, expecting those to be down 1%. We have a ?200 million saving on

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our fuel bill. We expect to have backed lower fares to our customers

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in the next financial year. -- we expect to hand back.

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John Strickland, airline expert from JLS Consulting is with me.

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Let's talk about the figures. 43% rise. But the warning is what has

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got everybody worried. The outlook is tough. It is what about the

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threat of terrorism and the volatile price of fuel figures. It could have

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an impact. No doubt. This year has been challenging, particularly in

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the second half because of the terror attacks in Paris and

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Brussels. Both markets where Ryanair is a player. As traffic control

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strikes, as well. Particularly in France, affecting the business.

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Companies are always cautious at the start of a business year. They

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expect profits to grow at a better rate. And that assumes no external

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factors. As for how the business model works from Ryanair. It is

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about load, getting bums on seats, and they will cut prices to make

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sure the planes are full. But that is not how the industry works

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overall. It is critical. One word underpins that. Load is important,

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but cost is important. Ryanair is zealous on keeping costs down. They

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benefited last year with lower fuel prices. But it is a detailed

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exercise day in day out that allows them to achieve the lower unit

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costs. Anybody can fill planes, but many feel planes and lose money,

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they are still turning very profitable performances. What is so

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interesting about the industry is so many other people have tried this

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model, but few have managed it. Ryanair and EasyJet dominate the

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market. What are they doing differently? The cost focus is key.

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Ryanair and EasyJet are well-established. They have fleets

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which go to hundreds of aircraft. They have aircraft on order.

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British -- British Airways, KLM, and Air France, have tried to do it with

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low subsidiaries. But Air France and Lufthansa have been littered with

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strikes, as well. If anybody wants -- was to ride out the threats, it

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is Ryanair. But there are other factors, including the volatile fuel

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price, and the terrorism threats. It is quite a sobering warning, isn't

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it? The fortunes of the airlines often go hand-in-hand with the

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fortunes of the wider public. Exactly. And going back to the issue

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of cost and cash. Ryanair has big cash reserves which they put aside.

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Which is unusual. Many airlines are weak with cash reserves in difficult

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times. They need that as a buffer to make sure they have on place to go

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if they get a revenue hit. -- a place to go. Other times of the

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strikes they were expecting higher revenues at that time. It is OK to

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be cautious. They still forecast profits to go up and stop they still

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have the cost focus. And they can cut fares more, which they can

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afford to do, because the fuel price will come down again which is a big

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cost area for them. -- they still forecast profits to go up. Thank you

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very much. Bayer, the German chemicals

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conglomerate, has made a formal offer for Monsanto -

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the US seed company. The transaction would create

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an industry giant whose products include antibiotics,

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genetically modified It would have a combined annual

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revenue of more than $67 billion. Vietnam's VietJet agreed a firm

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order of 100 Boeing 737s The deal makes it one

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of the region's fastest The order comes as part

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of President Obama's official Exports from Japan fell

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by 10% in April compared It's the seventh

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consecutive month of falls. The weak trade data

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is thought to be mainly due to poorer demand from China

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and other emerging economies. As Victoria touched on the start,

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the FTSE 100 opening low, lots of uncertainty to kick off the week.

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The website is dominated by the ongoing debate about the EU

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referendum. Ryanair has been talking about the risk of Brexit. We have

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touched on that with our guest, but also more talk about whether it will

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cost jobs to the UK economy. This time coming from Radio 4's today's

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programme. 400,000 jobs is the cost, apparently. But this will more than

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likely be disputed by the other side in the campaigning towards the

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referendum. That is the Business Secretary

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saying that today. -- Shadow Business Secretary.

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Japan's central bank governor has defended his controversial negative

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interest policy which he first implemented in January this year.

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He'd signalled that he's willing to cut rates even

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Haru-Hiko Kuroda was speaking with our Asia Business

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Correspondent, Karishma Vaswani, on the sidelines of the G7

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We announced in January and actually implemented this new policy in the

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middle of February. We are still early May. Although the impact on

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the financial market is quite clear, and already made, but impact on the

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economy and prices will take more time. But I don't say that it will

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take one year, two years, or something like that, it will have a

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clear impact on the economy soon. If we judge it necessary to have an

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inflation target we can further ease our monetary policy in

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three-dimensional 's. Quantity, quality and interest rate. We have

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still enough room to do so. -- in three dimensions.

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Asia markets traded mixed on Monday, with Japan's shares dropping

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amid renewed strength in yen and fresh data showing the country's

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This is how the session has opened up in Europe -

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shares are lower in early trading - weighed down by losses

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While Bayer slumped after making an offer for Monsanto.

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Now - let's hear from Michelle Fleury in New York about what's

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The US Federal reserve has long considered its June meeting as a

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possible time to raise interest rates. But until last week investors

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thought the probability of that happening was quite low. Some doubt

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has crept in after several speeches by officials. The release of the

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minutes from April's meetings. solid economic data. As policymakers

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ponder whether the US economy is ready to handle an increase, one

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thing they are looking for is signs of inflation. They may not get the

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answer to that this week but there answer to that this week but there

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are three reports which should provide more clues as to the direct

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travel in the world's largest economy. The key report

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OK, James, for now, thank you. I know you will come back with us to

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talk about the papers. We speak to the boss of the business

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aiming to bring domesticication to a generation that's always on the

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move. The collapse of BHS will be back

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in the spotlight today when MPs They want to hear from those

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who sold off the retailer for just ?1 last year and whether they took

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enough care when selling the firm. Maureen Hinton is the Global

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Research Director at Verdict Retail. Maureen, what do the committee

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hope to find out today? Well, I think that they want to find

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out is who knew what when and whether there was enough diligence

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to find out if they had the skills to run the company, but to finance

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it and turn it around so it was profitable again. Considering Sir

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Philip Green hadn't been able to do that was a tall order. We saw the

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deal happen. Sold off for ?1, there were lots of questions about why BHS

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got into this position and how it could be sold off for ?1. Why are

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people only asking questions now and not at the time? I well, I think

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because it went bust a month ago. That's why it suddenly came to

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prominence with the public, but when it was sold, there was lots of talk

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about it in the trade about who were these people that bought it and what

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was going to happen to it? We have seen a ratcheting up in terms of the

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war of words between all the parties involved in this. It makes you

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wonder who is telling the truth here?

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Well, I think the thing is that a Parliamentary Committee have made

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assumptions primarily there was a lot of talk about the dividend and

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whether the dividend was taken out when the pension fund was losing

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money, but the dividend was taken out when the company was profitable

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and it was only when the company started to lose money that the

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pension fund went into deficit. So it's really finding out exactly what

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happened. I think as more and more information comes out, it becomes

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more clearer. Maureen Hinton, thank you. There is more online if you

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need to stay up-to-date. The MPs set to question BHS directors and add

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saOusors. -- advisors. The Business Live team

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will stay across that story throughout the day as we hear

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evidence about why it was sold off for ?1. What deals were done? And

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crucially, the future perhaps for the 11,000 staff at those stores up

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and down the country and crucially too, their pensions.

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Ou're watching Business Live - our top story - Europe's biggest

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Budget airline Ryanair has forecast a slowdown in profit growth.

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The company says that terror attacks and increased competition

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And now let's get the inside track on a business aiming

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Marley Spoon are a global food company who deliver exact amounts

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of ingredients to people who want to cook at home.

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They were launched in Germany in 2014 and have since expanded

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to the UK, the Netherlands, Australia and the US.

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With the expansion of the West Coast US operations, Marley Spoon will be

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The group also plans to expand its coverage throughout

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the east coast of Australia, which it says will bring the service

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Fabian Siegel, founder and CEO of Marley Spoon joins us now.

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Good morning to you and welcome to the programme. Thank you for having

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me. Now, reading your background is really interesting. You're from a

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tech background and you are seeing this business as a tech business and

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not a food business, explain how that works. Our company has a DNA.

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We love food and eating. While in the end we deliver products to

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customers. There is a lot of software that people don't see when

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they see the boxes coming to their home, but there is a lot of

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technology that goes into getting the food to the customer's home

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straight from the farm to the customer. So forgive the bluntness

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of the question, but why would I use this? Why would I not order a

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take-away? Why not just order a take-away? I think there is both. I

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have a family. I have got three kids and sometimes we want a take-away,

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do I want to feed pizza to my kids every day? I want to cook and bring

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something healthy to the table and sit with everybody around the table

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and have some community. Cooking is something that people just do, but

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the way that supermarkets serve cooking is poor. I run into the

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supermarket and I have to pick the stuff and in the end I end up

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cooking the same stuff. Steak and broccoli every time, the same, you

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know. I feel we want to have some change and this is something like, I

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have a bamboo aloo here and I wouldn't cook that otherwise if

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Marley Spoon didn't bring it to me. I'm going to open this and see if it

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was something I could do. I want to talk about the cost of this.

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Because, of course, this is not the cheapest way of cooking.

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Particularly if you were a large family for example, buying in bulk

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from a supermarket has got to be more cost effective for a family

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than using one of these? Well, the interesting thing is cooking with

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Marley Spoon is not more expensive than the supermarket. Why would that

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be the case? Well, the thing is supermarkets, they throw away a lot

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of food. There is more than 100 million tonnes of food thrown away

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in the European Union. More than 30% of the fresh products thrown out by

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the supermarket because it is perishable. Who pays for that? You

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pay for that by the price. When you need celery and you need two sticks,

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what do you do with the celery? You throw it away. It is not more

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expensive to cook with Marley Spoon than the supermarket. OK, so the

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idea is so eliminate food waste and therefore, reduce the costs to the

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consumer. I'm chucking out less from my fridge? Right. I'm wondering

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whether where this leaves the supermarket shop, is this an idea of

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the past that we go to supermarkets or is so far into the future that it

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is cyber? Customers that use Marley Spoon they replace the supermarket

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for the cooking part which is 40% of the market is for cooking and 60%

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other stuff. People that use Marley Spoon, they don't have to go to a

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supermarket, they still have to buy the milk and the cereal. I think in

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the end, does it make sense to have prime real estate on the high street

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just to be there for perishable goods lying around and going to

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waste? Yes, we replace the supermarkets for the part of cooking

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and there is online retailers that do you a pantry. This looks great. I

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would love to have this delivered. It is simple ingredients, how much

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of them is a mark-up of the service you're offering? The trick here is,

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the reason why we can offer this for the same price as the supermarket is

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the supermarkets throw away 30% of their fresh products and they price

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that in. You pay for that. This is our margin. We can offer this for

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the same price as the supermarket which starts at ?3.75 per portion,

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?3.75 per portion for a fresh home cooked meal. I think it is a more

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sustainable way to cook at home without actually paying more and you

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get the great recipe card. You have six simple steps. And everybody can

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cook with these six simple steps a delightful meal. What people say

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that use Marley Spoon, they try it out once and then specifically

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customers with structured lives like families and empty nesters, people

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who have a structured life, they actually really like to have a box

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coming to their home once a week and the cooking has just been taken care

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of. It looks very nice. And it smells amazing. We will put that to

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the test. I will bring that in tomorrow.

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Thank you. The world's largest insurer, AXA,

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is to ditch its investments in the tobacco industry,

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worth nearly $2 billion. It says investing in the sector

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makes no sense, given that smoking kills some six million

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people a year. Imogen Foulkes sat down

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with the firm's new Chief Executive and asked him

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about the new strategy. We are a large provider

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of healthcare insurance and what we have seen more and more

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that obviously chronic diseases We need to invest more

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into prevention in order to prevent the chronic diseases

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and we want to really support that and not invest in something

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which creates more chronic diseases. You are a health insurance,

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it is more than 50 years since Government officials first

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warned about the dangers of tobacco? Yeah, but you can only see really

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now that particular interbuckle that it has turned from a lethal

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disease into a chronic disease and you see now the effects or now

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is the right time to do it. Now is also the time

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where the public awareness Let's see what other

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stories are being talked James Quinn is back with us. Let's

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start with this story in the Huffington Post. We have had a

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couple of tweets. Ryan says his peeve is when people were too much

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Cologne or perfume. By beggest bugbear at the BBC, we have eight

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floors and it is people who go one floorment that's what the stairs are

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for, is it not? I think so. One of the factors was small talk. People

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you don't know asking you what the weather has been like today or how

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busy your day is? Isn't it about everybody else listening to your

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conversation? Different radio stations are playing and you can get

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into the radio-free list. The danger with that, Radio 1, the lifts are

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glass and everyone can see you when you're dancing! Let's turn our

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attention away from lifts to Saudi which could do with a financial

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lift. I see what you've done there, Ben! So cheesy! Contractors face

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being paid in IOUs, that's astonishing that one of the world's

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richest countries could be having to pay contract contractors with an

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IOU? Saudi facing tough times. An article in the Telegraph pointing

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out that IOUs are a real likelihood and workers will be paid in those

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and what the impact will have on the population will be significant.

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Yeah, one we'll watch closely. Jails, the time is against us today.

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But that's a really interesting one and one we'll follow closely. James

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There will be more business news throughout the day

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on the BBC Live webpage and on World Business Report.

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There. Hello there. Good morning, it was a dry and bright start

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