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David Cameron and Nigel Farage were both put on the spot last

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night before an audience of voters on ITV.

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The Ukip leader and Prime Minister both faced - separately -

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hostile questions from a studio audience about the EU referendum.

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Will the Government extend the deadline to register to vote

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Technical glitches hit the official website just hours before

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the midnight deadline, leaving wannabe voters

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It's Prime Minister's Questions today - will the EU referendum

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dominate or will Jeremy Corbyn choose to ask David Cameron

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And how does the BBC achieve impartiality

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and balance in its coverage of the EU referendum?

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What's the main thing I've got to think about?

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The key thing in guidelines for a referendum is that we must

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All that in the next hour and a half and with us for the duration

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Labour's Alan Johnson and Security Minister John Hayes.

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Now one of our guests declared this week how proud he is to be

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I know what you're thinking, that's not news, we already know

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But no, it was Conservative Security Minister John Hayes.

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It's something you both have in common.

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Let's find out what else you have in common in the next

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Now, last night Nigel Farage and David Cameron faced hostile

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questions from some audience members in a live show on the UK's

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membership of the European Union, on everything from immigration

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The Ukip leader was the first to take to the stage.

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This is, should be a British passport,

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it says European union on it, all right?

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I think, to make this country safer, we need to get

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back British passports - so we can check anybody else

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Are you not embarrassed that Justin Welby today said you're

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Well, I'm sorry, and I'm not going to stand here and attack

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the Archbishop of Canterbury, but I think he would have

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done better to have read actually what I said,

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I voted for you in the last election, because one

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of the things on your manifesto was to get immigration down.

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You haven't been able to do that, because you're not allowed

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I can see my standard of living and my family's standard of living

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going down because of this influx that we can't control.

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Now I'm sorry to say, but your closing statement last week

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was that if we leave the EU we are rolling a dice

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By you telling us to stay in, you've rolled that dice already.

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I worry if we leave, that we're going to see our economy

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suffer, because we're going to lose access to the absolutely vital

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I would say the right thing to do, the British thing to do,

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is to fight for a Great Britain inside the European Union,

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and don't take the Nigel Farage 'Little England' option.

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Were you happy with how Nigel Farage presented your side of the argument

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last night? I present the argument in my way and he does in his. I'm

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not going to comment on him because he's a different political party

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from mine. I just wondered how you thought he had done. We welcome

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anybody who will bike for Brexit, but actually, the argument that is

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being made across the spectrum on Brexit is about political power,

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where Reddit exercised and how it held to account. I would world in

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which people who hold the people who take decisions affecting them to

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account in their interests. I'm comfortable when he says things like

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if we stay in the EU, the risk more migrants coming here and therefore a

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danger that British women will face alone style sex attacks? Are you

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comfortable with that? I am sure that part of the EU is that free

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movement poses all kinds of problems, but I'm not going to go

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into that kind of talk because it's not my style. So you're not

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comfortable with it? I'm not in the business of defending Mr garaged on

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those specifics. Alan Johnson, the Prime Minister could not give a nod

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to the gentleman who wanted to know why a highly skilled non-EU migrant

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has trouble hitting here whereas a skilled EU migrant can just walk in?

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I don't think he tempted to answer the question. He is in charge of a

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highly skilled migrant and so is John, working together, because they

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said the system for outside the EU so if we wanted more skilled people

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from outside the EU, we can control that. Because that's the deal we

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send up to. If you take your route, given who is coming in from the EU,

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that could be the price of the single market, useful to be honest

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about that and not try to obfuscate, if you want more non-EU, then

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overall net migration is going to rise. He is failing at the Betty

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controls, that's the problem for him. Last night, thought the

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audience were brilliant, thought their questioning was really good.

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The problem for David Cameron that Nigel Farage doesn't have is he is a

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government minister coming is the Prime Minister responsible for all

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this, so they can't just... Let me come back to my question, which is

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if we wanted to let in more highly skilled people from outside the

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Yukon but we stay in the EE, overall by definition, net migration is

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going to go up. -- stay in the EU. If we take in more of the skills we

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need from the non-thing-macro. The point is this, and this is where the

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Cameron is right, this is a difficult problem to grapple with,

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that balance. An Australian -based system, as Andrew Green has pointed

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out, just adds to the huge complicity of a bureaucracy of

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urology in. It is relevant... Not to my question. If you think the answer

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is to leave the EU and thanking the economy, you will create a bigger

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problem for your economy and employers in this country. The Messi

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said last night that if you are an EU job-seeker, you don't have a job

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but you come to look for a job, which many do, 77,000 did last year,

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you have to leave up to six months if you haven't found work. That's

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not true, is it? It is a strict application of habitual residency.

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It is something that would take quite a bureaucracy to actually

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police. Habitual residency is not the law here, nor is European law,

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and since 1991, there is no compulsion to leave after six

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months. My understanding is that the deal came back with on these

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negotiations... It wasn't part of the negotiation but it pointed out

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and put in his statement to Parliament, that that six-month rule

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should apply. The ruling says it's reasonable to ask people to leave

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after six months but there is no enforcement mechanism, how would you

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identify EU job seekers who have been here for six months, at haven't

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found work, how would you identify them to get them to go back? That's

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the difficulty, but I don't think it's impossible. Not if still within

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the European Union, and if this issue was something you could

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discuss among other European Union countries, because it's reciprocal

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for our people who go to look for work abroad that you could resolve

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that. This law has been in place since 2014, are you aware of any EU

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job-seeker sent back under it? I'm not aware of any. So it's not part

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of the deal, at the moment, it's also on the EU no, you're not

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allowed to systematically verify who is an EU job-seeker and who isn't.

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It's not true, is it? When we were in office, we had a register of

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workers who were from Eastern Europe and we found 40% of the names on

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them had been here already, they had come over as illegal migrants. It's

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another aspect of this that we can tackle if we are in the European

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Union. Do you accept there is no compulsion for EU job-seeker who has

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been here six months and hasn't got work, to go back home? I don't think

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that's benevolent, no. I'm not saying it can't be... That's

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implemented no. The fact is in your position, we have to choose tween

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the single market and controls on EU immigration. Do you accept that the

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trade-off and you would rather have control and immigration than access

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to the single market? You claim that, but that would depend on the

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negotiation. If we left the European Union, we would need to engage with

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the European Union countries about the kind of deal we put together.

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There is no country that has access to the single market, full access,

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doesn't also have free movement with the EU? That is the ultimate that

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has been made by Remain. But there was no country of our size and

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scale, who wants to trade as much as ours, that has been that position.

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The Government is looking into whether it's possible to extend

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the deadline to register to vote in the EU referendum,

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after a last minute rush in the hours before the midnight

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deadline prompted the website to crash.

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Labour, the Lib Dems, the SNP and the Electoral Commission

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The Liberal Democrat leader Tim Farron joins us now

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Welcome to the programme. Do you know how many people have been

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affected by this technical glitch if I can call it that? Technical glitch

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is what it is. Many, many thousands. We know that part of million people

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attempted to register or successfully did yesterday, a

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staggering number, about 300,000 of them were under the age of 35, which

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gives you some picture of the breakdown of the demographics of all

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of this, but we certainly think tens of thousands. Predominantly young

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people but at the moment that is anecdotal. We shouldn't be judging

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people on the basis of the point at which they chose to register.

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Whether it is in January or somewhere in the middle. The point

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is, the system broke down and that should not be a good enough excuse

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to exclude these thousands of people from the franchise. Except that they

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have had months to register in this referendum, it has not exactly been

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a secret, has it? But they are not second class voters. Why didn't they

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do it in good time? We shouldn't consider them to be second class

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voters because they chose to register to vote on the last day,

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it's just as legitimate and should be just as possible to register to

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vote at ten or 11:59pm on the last day as it was to register back in

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January, for example. What we can't have is those people who registered

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within time being excluded because of the banality of a technical

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glitch, I don't want to go around pointing the finger at government or

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anybody else for this failure, I think it's entirely possible for us

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to amend the law in an emergency statutory instrument or order in

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Council, the government could do that today. Give people another 24

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hours. 24 hours. Is this a sign of desperation on your side of the

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argument, you know that young people are more likely to bow to stay in,

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you have discovered it may be young people most affected by not

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registering on time, so you're desperate to get them on the

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register? Certainly come I want to win the referendum. I don't want to

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be in a situation that they often wear either side has won marginally,

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and a greater number of people were excluded because of this glitch.

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It's certainly something which is impressive and interesting that such

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a large majority of those who did register on the last day where young

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people, and we should all be taking note of the fact that the

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overwhelming majority of young people want to remain in the

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European Union, those of us who are a bit funny to think it's not about

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our sure futures, we are voting for, but then longer ones. -- a bit

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older. That sounds reasonable enough. It is of course right that

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the cyclical aspects of this have gone awry, and it's being looked at,

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but Tim knows this very well, we have all been involved in electoral

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processes for a lump sum, there are deadlines for postal votes, proxy

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votes, registration, that's what it is like to run an election. You have

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got to have a deadline sometime. But if it's a technical glitch, you can

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have people who have just left it too late and that was silly, you may

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pay the price, but if they left it a bit late but then couldn't at the

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last minute get on because of a technical glitch, that would be a

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reason for extending it. There is an urgent question at 12.30

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on this. Mr Cameron will want this, won't he? We all want it and I hope

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John wants, this to reflect the view of the British public of all ages,

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and we are all making a big effort to point out it was June seven. In a

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sense we were urging them, if you haven't registered now, get

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registered. They tried to and there was a glitch, now we need to put

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that back by 24-hour. It is a bit different to general election, if

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you don't vote in this one you can wait for the next one, this is once

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for all decision. You pass a law about a Bill and set deadlines, if

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there is a technical problem we have to look at its. We are agreed on

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this, so let's leave it. Tim Farron, we have to move on, but thank you.

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We will see one happens in the urgent question in PMQs.

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Anyone who follows politics knows no party's more prone to bouts

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Unless, of course, it's the Conservative Party.

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And now, with just 16 days to go to the EU referendum on 23rd June,

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the Tories are most definitely in the mood.

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It seems a long time ago that Conservatives were optimistically

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planning an "orderly, well-mannered debate" which avoided

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In March, Iain Duncan Smith delivered a powerful upper-cut,

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quitting the Cabinet over welfare cuts but also going rouge over

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the EU, saying David Cameron was presiding over "Project Fear".

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On Sunday, John Major tried to deliver a knock-out blow

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for Remain, claiming that trusting Michael Gove, Boris Johnson and IDS

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on the NHS was like "leaving a pet hamster with a hungry python".

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But Jacob Rees-Mogg counter-punched for the Leave campaign,

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claiming Sir John's remarks were the "bitter ramblings

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But it's not just the Conservatives rolling with the punches.

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In the red-on-red corner, Labour MP Graham Stringer

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sucker-punched Jeremy Corbyn, saying his pro-EU stance

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was "not his natural or historic position".

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And the Labour leader was hit below the belt by the party's Europhiles,

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with Simply Red singer Mick Hucknall calling for him

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to stop being a "shabby, spineless coward" and commit

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Only another 15 days of this before we're saved by the bell and can

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Now, John Hayes, what happened to this well mannered, orderly debate

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David Cameron said was going to take place? Let me to you very plainly. I

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have a lot of friends on both sides of this debate. Still? Yes, no

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disagreement with any of them, this is about much more than that, this

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is not about settling old scores. It is about much more than that. The

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Prime Minister is clear my views on this, and I hope I remain a friend

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and admirer of gum and the Chancellor, who I was with last

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night, know are principled opponents on this issue. And they do so at a

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higher level than that tittle tattle. You agree it is tittle

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tattle? There is a Tory civil war breaking out every weekend in the

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television studios. We have a responsibility to elevate above

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that. There are two weeks to go and hasn't been elevated... Let's try

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and do that today, elevate it, Alan and I will do that. We'll have to

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elevate it. It is not just blue on blue, the whole debate needs to be

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conducted in a way that is serious and mindful of its significant. You

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may want to point and look at Labour. But blue on blue, that is

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where most of the animosity has been directed. John Major took aim at

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your side saying the campaign was squalid and deceitful, brandishing

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Boris Johnson court jester. The Prime Minister has been branded by

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your side as unworthy and dishonest. Is that the level of debate... The

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Prime Minister stands head and shoulders above the other

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politicians, that is why he is Prime Minister and whatever the result, he

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should stay Prime Minister. What you make of like Madinda

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-- MPs who have written a letter saying he should resign if he loses?

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I told you what I think about it. We have a programme of government that

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will continue after the 23rd of June. We have to settle this matter.

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I hope we leave the European Union. And thereafter David Cameron leads

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Britain. What should people do when they say David Cameron has lied

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profoundly to the British public and is toast after the referendum? All

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party leaders at all times have their critics. There is not a single

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political party of any political party that has always enjoyed

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universal support. But that is not what this debate is about. Do you

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think calling a referendum on the issue has become a proxy for those

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critics to talk about leadership? I think there was an inevitability

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about a disagreement, but it is up to individual is how to conduct

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that. I went to see David Cameron, I work with him very closely, he

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wasn't surprised by my views in Europe. Since that time I have had

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no row with him or any of my other colleagues. Have you been surprised

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by the level of vitriol? Yeah... I'm surprised, certainly displeased. And

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you're right, it is very easy to this for all kinds of other reasons.

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I'm now, from this moment, making a call to all on both sides to elevate

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the debate. You are not the first and probably won't be the last to do

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that and it has fallen on deaf ears. How on earth do you stitch this back

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together again? Whatever you say, the majority of politicians that

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have come here have criticised, in pretty unpleasant terms, the other

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side. How do you put a party together again after that? In

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political parties, in our British system of government, there are

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premiere or disagreements and there are temporary disagreements. That

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doesn't mean parties can't hang together. We were elected a year ago

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under David Cameron's leadership by the British people to govern this

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country. That's what he needs to: doing, I hope outside of the EU.

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Jeremy Corbyn is not a historic supporter or fan of the EU. Neither

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is Hilary Benn or David Blunkett, if you look at the way people voted in

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1975. I'm talking about more recently. Graham is one of a handful

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of Labour MPs. If you look at where the Labour Party was last time we

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had a referendum, they were split top to bottom, like Tories today.

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Harold Wilson went after to try and get a deal and all of that. I take

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the criticism we are disunited on many things but on this we are very

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united, not just in the Labour Party and Parliamentary Labour Party but

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in the trade unions, every major union has come out... I'm not

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talking about disunity so much as lack of enthusiasm. If it comes down

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to Labour Party members and MPs unable to get their turnout on the

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day, that could really adversely affect... Yes, that is why we are

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crucial to this. Mick Hucknall is a lifelong supporter. And saying

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people like Jeremy Corbyn have not been out there, he has been

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spineless, to quote him, not an enthusiastic cheerleader for Remain.

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I think Mick has other issues with Jeremy Corbyn and this is just stick

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to beat him with. You say he has been out there? Yes. The issue

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Jeremy Corbyn is he has done all these town hall meetings across the

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country, under the national media radar. The way to do these things is

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to do today programme in the morning, do a big speech, dominate

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the news all day. Jeremy has done that one we've asked him to do it,

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aside from that he has doubled these meetings in Liverpool, Glasgow,

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Suffolk. He does these meetings all the time. We want him to do some

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more of those high-profile meetings and someone who has been converted,

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was in the other camp but now sees the benefits of the EU, and would-be

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Prime Minister... If John had come Prime Minister I would back him.

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This is where you heard it first. No Prime Minister in their right mind

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would suggest taking this country out of the European Union would be

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the right thing to do for the people. What has it been like on the

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doorstep? I have spoken to a number of Labour MPs who have been shocked

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by the level of malaise from Labour voters who are not interested in

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voting... And also they are not going to bother to turn out or vote

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for Remain. There is that. It hasn't surprised me, because in a sense we

:24:53.:24:56.

have not taken on this issue, the Labour Party. We have been quiet

:24:57.:25:00.

about Europe for a long time. Every time the elections for the European

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Parliament... We have to go and deliver leaflets... We have not made

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the arguments for Europe ever since the time of the single currency and

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we should have been, and now we are doing that job and I believe that

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the end of the day Labour will be fundamentally a decision to Remain.

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Could you put a word it with Jeremy Corbyn to do a one-on-one interview?

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Andrew, nobody would do one-on-one interviews with use! How long has he

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been Chancellor and Shadow Chancellor? Give Jeremy the same

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level of years. I have to wait six years! I don't know if I will be

:25:37.:25:40.

here. We have had a statement from the leaves campaign. On exchanging

:25:41.:25:51.

extending the registration period. They say it is doing little to stop

:25:52.:25:55.

EU nationals from voting on the referendum which needs to be

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urgently investigated. Hillary Clinton has won the Californian

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primary with 94% of the vote. That is quite a big margin, bigger than

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many of the poll suggested. The 475 delegates in California are split

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proportionally. A big win in the biggest state for Hillary Clinton.

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Mr Bernie Sanders says he will fight on.

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Now, it's time for the competition that will have the British public

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leaving their desks in droves to crowd around TV screens

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And that's not all - Laura Kuenssberg is here.

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Have you had the questions leaked to you? LAUGHTER

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I think there are two things we can fairly confidently predict without

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any leaks that will come up today. I expect the Prime Minister might try

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to mention what has been going on with sterling in advance of the

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referendum, which helps them about their warnings on the economy.

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Whether that is down to the referendum is an entirely different

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discussion, but I think he might crow bar that in there somewhere. I

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think it would be very surprising if Jeremy Corbyn doesn't raise this

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complete Horlicks with the voting registration website. A theme of

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his. Yes, I think it was his first campaign as party leader he began a

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campaign to get particularly young people to register. And given what

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has happened in the last 24 hours, in a country like ours when all the

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politicians have been urging people to vote, saying this is the biggest

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decision in decades in Britain today, it feels pretty extraordinary

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we cannot get a website work. As completely predictably happened at

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the general election when there was a surge of people trying to sign up.

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I remember the Obama administration when it began its health-care

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reform, you had to go to the website to sign on and it crashed within

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about an hour. Governments and websites don't go well together as.

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They don't mix well at all. It will never catch on. This is not just a

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story about Horlicks in government IT contracts, it's important not

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just because of people's right to vote, but also important politically

:30:28.:30:31.

here already this morning you have Vote Leave saying this is a mess,

:30:32.:30:35.

but we're worried about the Electoral Commission not doing

:30:36.:30:38.

enough to check EU citizens haven't somehow managed to register when

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they are not entitled to do so in this poll. But also... I'm going to

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wait for that, because it is time to Prime Minister's Questions.

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Yesterday we commemorated women's suffrage and the importance of votes

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for women. And women voting for women. Thousands wanted to vote

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yesterday but due to massive demand were unable to. We'll be p.m. Update

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the house on what he is doing to ensure everyone has a chance to

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register their vote and can do so in this bottle vote for a generation?

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Festival, let me join my honourable friend in remembering what the

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suffragettes stood for -- Festival. The fact that we're cheap universal

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suffrage in this country. On the issue she raises, I'm sure the whole

:31:41.:31:45.

house will want to know the situation, it's extremely welcome

:31:46.:31:49.

that so many people want to take part in this massive democratic

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exercise, in this vital decision for our country, last night there was

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record demand on the website from people concerned they might not be

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registered to vote in the referendum and this caused an overload of the

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system. I am clear that people should continue to register today.

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The electoral commission have made a statement, they urge the

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government... They will effectively extend the deadline. To make sure

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those who registered today, and who registered last night, will be able

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to vote in the EU referendum. I think it would be appropriate of the

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house recognise and remembered the life of Mohammed Khalid today, not

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only the greatest in his chosen field but someone who's coach and

:32:42.:32:45.

which inspired so many -- Muhammad Ali. I had the honour of meeting his

:32:46.:32:53.

wife in the nuts and 80s. I think we should commend his bravery in facing

:32:54.:33:00.

Parkinson's disease. On campaigning on civil rights, antiracism and

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peace, we have all lost one of the greatest. Yesterday, I met some

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workers from sports direct to come to Parliament to give evidence about

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the shocking behaviour of that company, nonpayment of the minimum

:33:15.:33:18.

wage, a culture of intimidation and fear, on top of the insecurity and

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exploitation of zero hours contracts. Philip wrote to me this

:33:23.:33:27.

week on this issue and concerned about it, said, the scandalous

:33:28.:33:32.

scourge of zero hours contracts, which is blighting the lives of many

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already low-paid people. Will the Prime Minister do what some other

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European countries have done and ban exploitative zero hours contracts

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here? First let me join the Leader of the Opposition in pain should be

:33:48.:33:50.

the life of Muhammad Lee, he was a hero in the ring, an enormous role

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model outside the ring, what did it in terms of breaking down barriers

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and encouraging integration is something should all celebrate. And

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I'm sure we all try to plug a butterfly and sting like a bee at

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this dispatch box though it's not always possible in the circumstances

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we face. On the issue of sports direct and the appalling practice of

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not paying the minimum wage, I have heard it and this government has

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done more than any previous government to crack down on the

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nonpayment. We have levelled almost 5000 penalties since 2010, we

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continue to name and shame eligible employees when they investigation

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has been closed -- eligible employers. And it is the nonpayment

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are at a record high and the total value of penalties last year was 15

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times bigger than in 2010, so on top of our national living wage, we are

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going after unscrupulous employers and making sure people get the deal

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they deserve. On the issue of zero hours contracts, religious leaders

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in the last Parliament to stop exclusive zero hours Parliament but

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people at the conclusion of our consultation, which is shouldn't go

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further than that and for some people, they want to have the of

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those contracts. The case of sports direct shows that he would Mike

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Ashley would make Scrooge like a good employer, but we should commend

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the unions were exposing what went on and shows we must strengthen, not

:35:34.:35:37.

weaken, workers' rights, particularly when there is criminal

:35:38.:35:41.

activity involved. But his government... Employment Minister

:35:42.:35:45.

said that if we leave Europe, we could just half the burdens of the

:35:46.:35:51.

European Union, social and implement legislation. Perhaps the Prime

:35:52.:35:57.

Minister could help us. There she speak on behalf of the government

:35:58.:36:00.

when she promises to reduce the burden is, as she describes them, of

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employment legislation, or on behalf of whom does she speak? The

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government is in favour of staying in a reformed European Union because

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we are stronger, safer and better off. For many people, one of the

:36:17.:36:19.

reasons they will want to stay in the European Union is that they do

:36:20.:36:23.

believe it provides an underpinning in terms of rights for workers and

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implement rights. I would make the point in addition that we in this

:36:28.:36:35.

house have repeatedly gone over and above those rights, we have the

:36:36.:36:39.

right to request flexible working for all workers since 2014, we went

:36:40.:36:43.

well beyond the maternity leave EU directive, giving 52 weeks maternity

:36:44.:36:49.

leave, given shared parental leave, eight days more annual leave for

:36:50.:36:52.

full-time workers than the EU working time directive. I believe

:36:53.:36:57.

this modern, compassionate Conservative government has an

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excellent record on these things, underpinned by our membership of the

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European Union. If it is a modern, compassionate Conservative

:37:07.:37:12.

government, as he describes it, why does it have an implement minister

:37:13.:37:18.

who wants to reduce the burdens, she describes it, of employment

:37:19.:37:20.

legislation and make work less secure? Could I quote one other

:37:21.:37:25.

person who has given some opinions on these matters, he says, "I can't

:37:26.:37:31.

guarantee every person currently in their current job will keep their

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job. " That was the member for Surrey Heath who is the justice

:37:38.:37:41.

minister, who seems equally relaxed about unemployment rights. So here's

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the point Mr and a Justice minister who want to reduce what they

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describe as workers protection as a burden. Can he do something about

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that? As he knows, we are holding a referendum, that is what is

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happening. The government has a clear position, which is we are

:38:03.:38:06.

stronger, safer and better off inside a European Union, that is the

:38:07.:38:09.

advice we are giving the boat is in our country, but there are ministers

:38:10.:38:14.

in the government who in a personal capacity campaigning on another side

:38:15.:38:17.

of the argument. I don't agree with them. So I don't agree with what the

:38:18.:38:23.

honourable member for Surrey Heath says, although the honourable member

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for which says, and I couldn't be clearer about that, the government

:38:28.:38:31.

has a clear position. And on this issue, not only do he and I agree,

:38:32.:38:36.

but only does the Conservative government and the Labour Party

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agree, but we also have the support of the Liberal Democrats, the

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support of the Ulster Unionist party, the support of the Green

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party, this is one occasion when business is large and small and

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trade unions are on the same site and I think we should celebrate that

:38:54.:38:57.

and get out and campaign as hard as we can. But I do celebrate is the

:38:58.:39:02.

work done by trade unions all across Europe. Persuading the European

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Union to bring in four weeks paid holiday, laws against sex

:39:09.:39:11.

discrimination, writes for part-time workers, writes for agency workers.

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But two weeks ago, I raised with the Prime Minister the proposed

:39:20.:39:23.

amendment to the posting of workers directive to close a loophole that

:39:24.:39:28.

allows unscrupulous employers to exploit migrant workers and undercut

:39:29.:39:34.

wages here. Will he now reply to my question and confirm that he will

:39:35.:39:38.

argue in Europe for the amendment to close this loophole that allows this

:39:39.:39:44.

exploitation to go on? I think I said last, we support the current

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draft, we went to see this sorted out, we have been working with the

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Dutch Prime Minister who is reading this work and we think an amendment

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to this will be worthwhile. The current draft is good and we back

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it. I'm pleased he is backing it but I hope he ensures it goes through.

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There is another issue I raised with him a couple of weeks ago full stop

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and that is the anger that exists all over this country, indeed all

:40:11.:40:13.

over the western world, about tax avoidance. I agree that we are more

:40:14.:40:18.

likely to make progress inside the European Union than outside on tax

:40:19.:40:23.

avoidance, but his members of the European Parliament have not been

:40:24.:40:29.

supporting country by country tax transparency, that would force

:40:30.:40:32.

companies to publish their tax payments in each country in which

:40:33.:40:36.

they operate. Will he now tell us when this is going to be supported

:40:37.:40:40.

by his MEPs, when it will go through, to close down just one of

:40:41.:40:45.

the many tax loopholes that exist at the present time? Festival, I would

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do that no government has done more nationally the crackdown on tax

:40:51.:40:56.

evasion -- first of all. And I would also argue that no government has

:40:57.:40:59.

done more internationally to bring this up the international agenda,

:41:00.:41:06.

made it my centrepiece of the G8, we are now driving change in the

:41:07.:41:12.

European union. Let me confirm, my MEPs to support country by country

:41:13.:41:14.

reporting and they have said that over and over again and I'm happy to

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repeat that again. I'm really pleased that his MEPs support it, we

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are all delighted about that, I'd hope they get round to voting for it

:41:25.:41:27.

when the opportunity comes up because that would certainly help.

:41:28.:41:32.

He will be aware that the Labour position is that we want to stay in

:41:33.:41:35.

the European Union to improve workers's writes, tackle

:41:36.:41:40.

exportation, drive down tax evasion and tax avoidance. But we are

:41:41.:41:46.

concerned that these issues are not the priorities of members of his

:41:47.:41:52.

government and his party, such as the member for Uxbridge, the member

:41:53.:41:56.

for Surrey Heath and the member for that. They are speaking to try and

:41:57.:42:02.

destroy any of the social advances made within the European Union. Does

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he talk to them about this at any time and do they speak for

:42:07.:42:09.

themselves or him and his government, and if they speak for

:42:10.:42:12.

themselves, how are they ministers at the same time? And here I am

:42:13.:42:19.

trying to be so consensual. I am doing my best. I could of course

:42:20.:42:21.

mention that the honourable member for Edgbaston was out there

:42:22.:42:26.

yesterday spelling for Nigel Farage? But I don't want to play that game.

:42:27.:42:32.

I'd want to stress the unity of purpose, particularly over tax

:42:33.:42:35.

evasion, because there is a serious point here. What we have in prospect

:42:36.:42:39.

in the European Union, in part because of British action is the

:42:40.:42:45.

idea of saying that if large foreign multinationals want to invest in the

:42:46.:42:49.

European Union, they will have two report... All over the world.

:42:50.:43:03.

They can unite and saves will be a good thing and shows that when

:43:04.:43:08.

Britain pushes an agenda in Europe, it wins for our citizens. The Prime

:43:09.:43:15.

Minister has repeatedly stated that he secured changes to reform in the

:43:16.:43:20.

EU, will he now confirmed that on the 3rd of June, the voters are not

:43:21.:43:26.

guaranteed any treaty change to EU nor, as no treaty change was

:43:27.:43:32.

achieved despite a promise to deliver international agreement

:43:33.:43:36.

cannot change EU nor? Finally released up-to-date grating our

:43:37.:43:44.

great country, it is a sign he's losing the argument. -- can he stop

:43:45.:43:49.

denigrating our great country. I know he has strong views about this

:43:50.:43:54.

issue and so do I, but on the specific point you wrote is, I'm

:43:55.:43:59.

afraid he's not correct. In the renegotiation we secured the vital

:44:00.:44:02.

treaty changes, one on getting Britain out of ever closer union,

:44:03.:44:07.

and on the protection for our currency. I don't except for one

:44:08.:44:12.

minute that in any way supporting Britain being a member of reform

:44:13.:44:17.

European Union is turning our country down. I think if you love

:44:18.:44:20.

your country can really wanted to be strong in the world, if you love

:44:21.:44:23.

your country, you want opportunities for young people, you don't want to

:44:24.:44:28.

act in a row that could lead to its break-up and that is why what I want

:44:29.:44:32.

to see is not Nigel Farage's little England, I want to see a strong

:44:33.:44:47.

Britain in Europe. Last week, thousands of dead from both sides in

:44:48.:44:50.

the battle of Jutland well remembered in conversions. -- the

:44:51.:44:56.

rhythm that. The Prime Minister joined the Princess Royal, President

:44:57.:44:59.

of Germany and the First Minister, with thousands of people on Orkney

:45:00.:45:08.

to remember the tragedy. European cooperation emerged from both world

:45:09.:45:11.

wars as the best way to secure peace. Does the Prime Minister agree

:45:12.:45:15.

that we should never take peace and security for granted and that it is

:45:16.:45:19.

a strong reason to remain in the European union?

:45:20.:45:26.

I think the right honourable gentleman is right about this, there

:45:27.:45:32.

were very memorable scenes as we stood on that cemetery ground and in

:45:33.:45:35.

the background the British and German frigates together was a sight

:45:36.:45:40.

I am not going to forget, as we commemorated and remembered how many

:45:41.:45:44.

people lost their lives. I want to be clear about this. The words world

:45:45.:45:48.

War three have never passed my lips, let me reassure everyone about that,

:45:49.:45:53.

but can we really take for granted... Of course, they have now

:45:54.:45:58.

well spotted a! LAUGHTER Can we really take for granted the

:45:59.:46:03.

security and stability we enjoy today, when we know our continent

:46:04.:46:07.

has been wracked by so many conflicts in the past. Like all

:46:08.:46:11.

Conservatives, I would always give the greatest credit to Nato for

:46:12.:46:14.

keeping the peace but I think it has always been a Conservative view the

:46:15.:46:17.

European Union has played its role as well.

:46:18.:46:23.

This is not about world War Three but the reality on facts that there

:46:24.:46:27.

have been at war is on the European continent, but outside the European

:46:28.:46:30.

Union Bay have happened in the Balkans, Ukraine, the Caucasus, it

:46:31.:46:37.

is also a fact there have never, ever been any examples, not one

:46:38.:46:41.

single example of armed conflict between member states of the

:46:42.:46:45.

European Union. Will the Prime Minister take the time, the little

:46:46.:46:50.

time that is left ahead of the European referendum, to stress the

:46:51.:46:54.

positive advantages of cooperation, of peace and of stability to us all,

:46:55.:46:58.

not just the single market all the rights we have as citizens, peace

:46:59.:47:06.

and prosperity is an advantage to us all and that is why we should remain

:47:07.:47:10.

in the European Union. I think the strongest argument for

:47:11.:47:14.

the Government's position of wanting us to stay is we will be better off,

:47:15.:47:19.

that that market a 500 million people is absolutely essential for

:47:20.:47:22.

our businesses. I think the argument I was just making that we would be

:47:23.:47:25.

stronger in the world, in terms of getting things done for Britain and

:47:26.:47:29.

our citizens is important, but the argument that we are safer and more

:47:30.:47:33.

secure because of the European Union is a means for dialogue between

:47:34.:47:37.

countries that were previously adversaries and something I will

:47:38.:47:41.

never forget. However frustrating it can get around that table with 27

:47:42.:47:45.

other prime ministers and presidents, you never forget these

:47:46.:47:47.

were countries previously in conflict. Now we talk, discussed,

:47:48.:47:52.

argued and decide that is a far better way of doing things.

:47:53.:47:59.

If my constituents in the coalfields of Nottinghamshire are to share in

:48:00.:48:02.

the economic success driven by this government, they have to have access

:48:03.:48:06.

to employment via good quality public services. Can the Prime

:48:07.:48:10.

Minister give me any assistance in my campaign to open the Robin Hood

:48:11.:48:15.

to Linux, to extend it to various vintages so we can get them on a

:48:16.:48:22.

train into a job? -- extend the line? Quality infrastructure is

:48:23.:48:26.

vital for our economy and I am pleased to say following

:48:27.:48:29.

representations from my honourable friend and others, the Department

:48:30.:48:35.

for Transport have revised the project so lines like the Robin Hood

:48:36.:48:39.

line can benefit from government money to kick-start the man get them

:48:40.:48:44.

going. In 2003, the current Prime Minister

:48:45.:48:53.

and most of today's cabinet joined Tony Blair and his Cabinet at the

:48:54.:48:59.

time in joining the war in Iraq. This is historically factual and

:49:00.:49:02.

cannot be denied. We'll not the judgment of Chilcott be discredited

:49:03.:49:09.

if the report fails to recognise that the then Prime Minister

:49:10.:49:14.

honestly and genuinely believed that his actions, given the information

:49:15.:49:18.

available, was the right thing to do at the time? What I would say to the

:49:19.:49:24.

right honourable lady, and I remember very powerful speeches she

:49:25.:49:27.

made at the time with all the concerns she had for the people in

:49:28.:49:34.

Iraq, and particularly the Kurds, we should wait for the Chilcot Report

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and what it has to say. I have no idea what is in it, all I do know is

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its publication is coming quite soon.

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The European Union recently admitted it has a black hole in its finances

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of around ?19 billion. 18 months ago my right honourable friend said he

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won't not pay the EU the surcharge, effectively a final British

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taxpayers, yet he later was forced to pay up. What reassurance with my

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right honourable friend give the House that hard-working British

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taxpayers will not be forced to pay money in this black hole of our

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nation votes to stay in the European Union and would he accept our only

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option is for our constituents to vote to Leave the EU?

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The reassurance I can give my right honourable friend is we fixed the

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European budget for a seven-year period between 2014-2020 and we

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fixed the total for that budget that was lower than the previous seven

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year period and means European budgets are going to go down and not

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up. That cannot be changed. This is a very important point, the overall

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ceiling of spending is determined by all 28 Prime Minister 's and

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presidents. There is a veto over changing it, just as there is a veto

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over the British rebate. The only person who can give up British

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rebate is the British Prime Minister and as I long as I'm standing here

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and Prime Minister there is absolutely no prospect of that

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happening. Now, I will, as he ended his question with a remark, I will

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end mine with a remark there is no expert that is saying we would make

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a saving from leaving the EU. The only black hole there would be would

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be in our public finances because we would have a smaller economy, lower

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tax receipts, so we would have to cut spending or put up taxes to make

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up for the fact. Provided audio and visual

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information... I have asked the transport minister on this subject.

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Could the Prime Minister commit his government to sign up to an

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amendment to the buses Bill which would provide better access ability

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for all? I will look very closely at what he

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says. I think I am right in saying the buses Bill is a devolved matter,

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so it affects issues in England rather than issues in Scotland. But

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let me look carefully at what it says because we want to make sure

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disabled people can properly use the bus services we have.

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My right honourable friend will be aware it is five years since the

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announcement by Pfizer to scale down operations. Since then with

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enterprise zone status there has been an enterprise of high-tech

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businesses on site within climate levels now up to nearly the previous

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position. He has previously promised a trip to South Thanet, can I ask

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once more to come see the success in my constituency?

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I am delighted to make that... To answer that offer and say I would

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like to go. Ira member very well it was early in 2010 when Pfizer made

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that decision. I think there were real concerns this would lead to an

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exit of jobs and investment in my right honourable friend's

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constituency. Want to take pay tribute to David Willetts, who did a

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great job working with others, including a local MP, to get

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businesses to locate in the constituency and to show there is a

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very strong pharmaceutical and life sciences industry in our country,

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providing the jobs we need. With industrialists like Braque so

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and had touchy saying if we left the jobs would be lost, the Brexit

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economist has revealed their strategy means manufacturing would

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be mostly eliminated. Would the Prime Minister join me... In calling

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on the Brexit leaders to say how many other people's jobs they would

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sacrifice on the altar of their own bid...

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I think the honourable lady makes an important point, which is one of the

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reasons why it international companies like Hitachi invest here

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is because we are members of the single market. I did what the head

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of Hitachi said this week about wanting us to be the European

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headquarters, to manufacture those trained in the north-east and solve

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all over Europe and how that might not be possible if we were to leave

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was an incredibly powerful statement. So in my clear view, jobs

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come first, and if people want to vote for jobs, they should vote for

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Remain on the 23rd of June. Speaking at many universities,

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colleges and schools across England, and also through organisations

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organised by the universities UK, University UK and Allianz group I

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have been struck by the strong interest young people have in

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remaining in the EU. Does the Prime Minister agree with me that Britain

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should take a firm lead in the European Union to promote the

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interests of young people and for their careers, research and

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opportunities in the future generally?

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I think our universities have been pretty much unanimous in recommended

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we vote to stay in the EU, I think that is partly because of the

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opportunities young people will have of being in the single market of 500

:55:33.:55:36.

million people. Also our universities do well from research

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funding which is helping to create the businesses and jobs of the

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future, where we contribute 11 seven of the budget, we received 16% of

:55:45.:55:48.

the allocated funding. Staying in Europe is good for students opted to

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use, good for young people's opportunities and good for science

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base. Yesterday the defence committee,

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Admiral Lord West, commented the Ministry of Defence had effectively

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run out of money for shipbuilding. Given reports another vessel had to

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be a squatted over British waters overnight, does the Prime Minister

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agree that the delay in building new frigates is causing problems and it

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is essential the money is allocated to deliver this programme in full

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and on schedule? It is certainly not the case that

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this country in anyway has run out of money, or run out of ambition

:56:32.:56:36.

when it comes to shipbuilding. We are currently building the two

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largest ships the Royal Navy has ever had and we are shortly going to

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be commissioning the type 26 programme, as well as the offshore

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patrol vessels. The point I would make to the honourable member is

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there is only one way we could threaten shipbuilding on the Clyde

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and that would be to pull out of the United Kingdom and see the jobs be

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decimated as a result. Mr Speaker, the beauty of a

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referendum is that every voter has an equal voice, every vote carries

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equal weight and members of Parliament have no more political

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superiority over anyone else. Does my right honourable friend accept

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the referendum is not a consultation but an instruction to Parliament

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from the British people? Is it not incumbent on all of us to accept in

:57:25.:57:29.

advance that Remain would mean remain and Leave would mean leaves,

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and any attempt to short-change or distort the verdict of the British

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people would be a democratic outrage?

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I think my right honourable friend is absolutely right. Every vote

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counts the same. We have asked the British people for their opinion and

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we should treat their decision as an instruction to deliver. I know many

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people would like me to be a bit more nuanced in what I think, to say

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there are two options, they both have some merit, it is a balanced

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decision. That might have made my life easier but the problem is, I

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don't believe it. I very strongly believe we are better off if we stay

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in and that is why the Government is saying so clearly to the British

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people and I am saying clearly, better off stronger and safer, but

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in the end it is the British people's decision.

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Only last week the Prime Minister was rightly extolling the virtues of

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the EU as a means to tackle pollution. Yet over recent months

:58:27.:58:30.

the UK Government has led efforts to water down a key you directive aimed

:58:31.:58:34.

at reducing the number of people who die every year from breathing in

:58:35.:58:39.

toxic air. Can you tell us why? What we're doing in our own country

:58:40.:58:43.

is making sure we improve our air quality, go for these cleaner air

:58:44.:58:47.

zones and we have seen a major reduction in particular is in the

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air over the last two years and we continue doing just that.

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What the Prime Minister said today I think is right, we have to go and

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campaign. But I remember what you said yesterday about notifying

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members if they are going to be in the constituency. Can I say to the

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Prime Minister, a group of leave campaigners will be descending on

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Whitney at lunchtime on the Sunday. I will be there. And will the Prime

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Minister be able to join as and given what he has just said, would

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he confirm that if the country votes to Leave, he would be able to stay

:59:30.:59:36.

on as Prime Minister and negotiate the exit?

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I am very sorry I won't be able to meet my honourable friend. I am

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making an appearance on the Andrew Marr programme on Sunday, but I

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would recommend he goes to the fleece pub in Whitney and spends as

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much time and money there rather than anything else.

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Will we have a decision into the Davis report on airport expansion by

:00:02.:00:07.

The Times the House rises this summer and does he stand by his

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word, personally, no ifs, no buts, no third runway at Heathrow question

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mark I absolutely stand by what I said, that we will have a decision

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by this in the summer and we do need to decide.

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Next week the breakfast will take place in Westminster Hall when 600

:00:31.:00:35.

people will gather, yet also this week we hear of a Christian union

:00:36.:00:40.

being banned from holding prayer and Bible study meetings. Reportedly on

:00:41.:00:46.

the grounds that government's anti-terrorism prevent strategy.

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Does the Prime Minister agrees such action moves never intended?

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Of course, what my honourable friend says is right. I will not be able to

:00:58.:01:02.

attend the prayer breakfast. I know is a very good event and brings a

:01:03.:01:05.

lot of people together and means a lot to Christians around our

:01:06.:01:09.

country. The point she makes about the present duty being misused, I

:01:10.:01:15.

haven't heard of that exact example, but it is clearly ludicrous. People

:01:16.:01:19.

do need to exercise some common sense in making these judgments

:01:20.:01:22.

because it is quite clear that was not what was intended.

:01:23.:01:27.

Every day around 6000 people, many children, take on new caring

:01:28.:01:31.

responsible at his providing on paid care for a family member or friend.

:01:32.:01:35.

Yet many carers say they feel abandoned by everyone, including the

:01:36.:01:40.

Government. Will the pride as the pledges government to do much better

:01:41.:01:45.

for the 9500 carers in my constituency and the many across the

:01:46.:01:51.

country customer I pay tribute to the carers across our country for

:01:52.:01:55.

the selfless work they do, for the immense amount of money they save

:01:56.:01:58.

taxpayers every year. But above all, for the love and

:01:59.:02:02.

commitment they give to the people they are caring for. What we have

:02:03.:02:06.

done is try to help by increasing the number of carers breaks, because

:02:07.:02:10.

many carers will say the one thing they need to go on caring is an

:02:11.:02:14.

occasional break and this time away from their caring responsible at

:02:15.:02:17.

ease. We should continue to work on all those things to help our carers.

:02:18.:02:23.

The largest single source of employment and wealth in my

:02:24.:02:27.

constituency is the London based financial services market. Does the

:02:28.:02:30.

Prime Minister agree with me that the opportunity to continue trading

:02:31.:02:35.

freely in a 500 million single market in financial services, with

:02:36.:02:42.

completed capital markets union is an unparalleled and optimistic

:02:43.:02:46.

opportunity for my constituents and one though no sensible businessman

:02:47.:02:52.

would turn his back on. My honourable friend makes an important

:02:53.:02:55.

point and here it is worth understanding what the single market

:02:56.:03:00.

means. It means a financial services company based in the UK effectively

:03:01.:03:05.

has a passport to trade in 27 other EU countries. If we are to leave and

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if we leave the single market, we lose that passport right. So by

:03:11.:03:15.

definition, many of the firms would have to relocate at least some of

:03:16.:03:20.

their staff into another European Union country. HSBC have said they

:03:21.:03:24.

would have to scrap 1000 jobs. JP Morgan said they

:03:25.:03:35.

would have to scrap 4000 jobs. Lloyd's came out and said many jobs

:03:36.:03:39.

in insurance would be under threat. This is a concrete example of why

:03:40.:03:42.

the single market matters. I would make the point, because this doesn't

:03:43.:03:44.

just affect his constituency but two thirds of jobs at our outside London

:03:45.:03:47.

and this accounts for 7% of Arab, me. So when experts warn of effects

:03:48.:03:48.

on jobs and To with me that about to leave on

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the 23rd of June would be a hammer blow for the British steel industry?

:04:02.:04:06.

Would he agree to meet with me in order to discuss a number of

:04:07.:04:12.

decisions being made in the context of the sale process, imminent

:04:13.:04:14.

decisions that will have a huge impact on thousands of jobs in

:04:15.:04:24.

marketed to unseat? I am looking? My honourable gentleman as is the

:04:25.:04:27.

Business Secretary to help in what we can to secure a future for Tata,

:04:28.:04:34.

and that sales process is progressing. We are better off

:04:35.:04:39.

inside the European Union for steel because together, as one of 28

:04:40.:04:43.

countries, we are better able to stand up, whether it is to the

:04:44.:04:46.

Chinese or Americans, over dump steel. Where we put in place those

:04:47.:04:54.

dumping tariffs you can see 99% reductions in the quantity of

:04:55.:04:57.

Chinese deal in this category is being imported into the EU. We still

:04:58.:05:04.

face a difficult situation, there is massive overcapacity but we are

:05:05.:05:07.

definitely better off as part of this organisation, fighting for

:05:08.:05:11.

British steel workers jobs. Will the address an issue that the Remain

:05:12.:05:18.

campaign has pledged and that is our present immigration policy, in all

:05:19.:05:20.

truthfulness, cannot control the numbers coming in from the EU for

:05:21.:05:26.

the benefit of our public services but actually discriminates against

:05:27.:05:29.

the rest of the world, outside the EU? Having spent my evening

:05:30.:05:40.

yesterday with Mr Farage, I'm confused about what it was that the

:05:41.:05:46.

Leave can actually want, thought they would less immigration but

:05:47.:05:50.

never seem to want more immigration from the EU into our country. -- now

:05:51.:05:59.

they seem to want. You should come and work ever for years before you

:06:00.:06:02.

get full access to our welfare system, no more something for

:06:03.:06:06.

nothing, people pay in before they get out and then we should focus on

:06:07.:06:10.

proper controls on migration from outside the EU on which we have made

:06:11.:06:15.

some progress and we can do more. That's the right answer, but the

:06:16.:06:19.

alternative, of an Australian point system, they have twice as much

:06:20.:06:23.

immigration per head as we have here in the UK. That's not the right

:06:24.:06:30.

answer for Britain. As he reaches the end of his time in office...

:06:31.:06:39.

President Obama reflected... His worst mistake was the catastrophe in

:06:40.:06:44.

Libya. What was the Prime Minister's worst mistake in his time in office?

:06:45.:06:48.

The time to reflect on your mistakes is clearly close to the end of your

:06:49.:06:52.

time in office so that doesn't apply!

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I'm sure the honourable lady is delighted to receive...

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PMQ 's coming to an end there. Mr Corbyn brought up the issue of

:07:09.:07:21.

sports direct. -- Sports Direct. On the number of problems they were

:07:22.:07:27.

having in that company, working practices there. And a couple of

:07:28.:07:33.

questions on that, he moved on to the need for the EU to provide

:07:34.:07:43.

workers's writes, he decided to attack Priti Patel, who is

:07:44.:07:49.

campaigning to leave the EU. She is an employment minister who says she

:07:50.:08:00.

wants fewer rights for workers. And he talked about the originating the

:08:01.:08:06.

labour market and he brought up the posted workers directive again. And

:08:07.:08:09.

country by country reporting of profits. We will look at all of this

:08:10.:08:16.

in a minute. I think it is still going on, at the moment. I'm not

:08:17.:08:26.

sure if we are going back to it. We have come out a bit early, let's go

:08:27.:08:28.

back in. The Prime Minister ensure that given

:08:29.:08:38.

the number of visitors and the security threats and all the rest of

:08:39.:08:41.

it that the British Embassy and consular staff are fully geared up

:08:42.:08:45.

and resourced to deal with the problems that will arise

:08:46.:08:50.

undoubtedly? I'm grateful for the Right Honourable member for rating

:08:51.:08:54.

this issue and I'm sure this is one occasion when the whole house will

:08:55.:08:57.

want all the Home Nations to stay in Europe for as long as possible. Come

:08:58.:09:06.

on now. I'm going to be watching. Our first game is England against

:09:07.:09:11.

Russia, and I'm going to be watching carefully to check we get strong

:09:12.:09:16.

support! But he makes an important point, which is that this is a very

:09:17.:09:20.

big security undertaking, half a million people are planning to leave

:09:21.:09:26.

the UK to go to this tournament, we have set out clear travel advice

:09:27.:09:29.

because people do need to know that there is a significant terrorist

:09:30.:09:35.

threat in France today and there is a potential threat to this

:09:36.:09:41.

tournament. We set out clearly, the threat level in front is critical,

:09:42.:09:44.

the threat level for the tournament is severe and people need to know

:09:45.:09:49.

that. The French security operation is enormous, 77,000 police, 10,000

:09:50.:09:55.

military personnel, 13,000 security guards, we're providing additional

:09:56.:09:59.

public order support to the French, including deployment of additional

:10:00.:10:03.

police on trains into France, outbound checks and we are helping

:10:04.:10:08.

with sniffer dogs and other areas the French ask us for. We all want

:10:09.:10:13.

to see a great celebration of European football. I wish all the

:10:14.:10:17.

Home Nations well, it's brilliant that Northern Ireland have made it

:10:18.:10:19.

to this tournament and of course Wales and of course England. I look

:10:20.:10:26.

forward to, in the breaks in this campaign, watching sympathetic

:10:27.:10:26.

football. I think that is the end of PMQ 's! I

:10:27.:10:41.

gave a summary of what Mr Corbyn had said so no need to repeat it. You

:10:42.:10:49.

said it was the penultimate PMQ 's today, I think you are right, there

:10:50.:10:53.

could be one next week, the house is rising on Wednesday so there should

:10:54.:10:57.

be won but there is a possibility it might be cancelled before the

:10:58.:11:04.

referendum. I certainly hope not! E-mails. He said, tactically strong

:11:05.:11:08.

punches from Jeremy Corbyn who cleverly argued for a social Europe.

:11:09.:11:13.

No knockout but Mr Cameron was on the ropes. Helen said Jeremy Corbyn

:11:14.:11:17.

is boring us all with the minutiae of the EU. Someone tell him no one

:11:18.:11:23.

can guarantee anyone's job. John said perhaps it's time for him to

:11:24.:11:27.

realise there are times even for the Leader of the Opposition, to back

:11:28.:11:30.

the Prime Minister, especially when they hold the same view is that UK

:11:31.:11:36.

should remain within the EU, or is this a lie? Jeffery says the Messi

:11:37.:11:40.

was upbeat considering the pressure he is under, his comments about

:11:41.:11:45.

other parties supporting him was pretty desperate stuff -- says the

:11:46.:11:52.

Prime Minister was upbeat. Did we learn from the Prime Minister about

:11:53.:11:58.

this vote of the station business, the website crashing last night,

:11:59.:12:01.

people who want to register not able to do, calls for an extension?

:12:02.:12:08.

Always happy to be wrong, Jeremy Corbyn did actually raise it above

:12:09.:12:11.

the Prime Minister Inc that into his answers. There are talks going on

:12:12.:12:15.

between the government and the electoral commission, looking for a

:12:16.:12:17.

way to legally and practically extending the deadline somehow. It's

:12:18.:12:24.

not clear how that will be, were in uncharted territory here because the

:12:25.:12:28.

deadline is normally hard and fast deadline, because there has to be

:12:29.:12:31.

some kind of deadline, if we extended the 24 hours and suddenly

:12:32.:12:34.

there was a rush tonight on the website crashed again, do you do it

:12:35.:12:39.

all again next day? Local authorities have two Eric Abidal

:12:40.:12:43.

after they go to this website so a lot of people will have thought, we

:12:44.:12:47.

have fixed the website, there is an important verification process to

:12:48.:12:51.

combat electoral fraud after you have signed up. But watch this

:12:52.:12:57.

space, we're not quite sure what it's going to be but I think the

:12:58.:13:01.

government is clearly keen to come up with some kind of deal that has

:13:02.:13:07.

the effect of an extension. We see big numbers for registration but is

:13:08.:13:10.

it not true that among those who have been rushing to register, they

:13:11.:13:15.

had not been entitled to register, some of them, and some of them are

:13:16.:13:21.

actually already registered? Important to caveat this, so we know

:13:22.:13:24.

that half a million people have registered on the website in recent

:13:25.:13:27.

days, a huge number, many of them may already be on the register. Just

:13:28.:13:34.

in case you go on, you sign up again to make sure you get your polling

:13:35.:13:38.

card, so we don't know how many of them are new voters who want to vote

:13:39.:13:44.

for the first time, or not. What we know is huge numbers of people have

:13:45.:13:50.

been under 35, hypothetically plays well for the Remain side. As you

:13:51.:13:53.

say, there is concern about people who might not be entitled to vote,

:13:54.:13:59.

this is something that vote Leave are talking about. EU nationals who

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live in this country, even who have been here for a while and work and

:14:06.:14:10.

pay tax and National Insurance, they are not allowed the boat? Not

:14:11.:14:14.

automatically, you then get into a question about links of residency.

:14:15.:14:21.

The Schalke links. You have to apply for it, that takes time. Same

:14:22.:14:29.

process as a general election. He will have to tell his wife she is

:14:30.:14:33.

not entitled to vote. The recent white it is considerably younger

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people is used to register on the part of household, that changed to

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individual registration and the people who missed out the most were

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the kids who had gone off to live elsewhere. That started under

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Michael Wales, great friend of mine. The point that was it was to deal

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with fraud. Individual registration was designed to make sure people

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didn't register a whole group of people, some of whom were entitled

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and sunburnt. At the moment, the website is close, there is no point

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in them going to register? We don't know that, we don't know the

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situation has changed, a source said to me that people should keep going

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and basically keep trying to see what happens. Because the website is

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a website that is there all the time. So if you register... I don't

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think it has crashed at the moment but what we don't know is if you

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register now, whether you will get onto the enrolling for the

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referendum or just for future elections.

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If they don't sort this out there could be some argy-bargy at the

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polling booths. Most people think this referendum is going to be

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tight, and therefore what the Government wants to do is squashed

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down any reason that might give people hesitation after the vote to

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say somehow this wasn't fair, there was foul play here, anything in a

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close vote which might shift it one way or the other. The tickly for the

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Leave side who feel so strongly about this and making calls about

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there not being a level playing field because of the Government

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taking a position. Two other brief things worth pointing out, the Prime

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Minister pretty much killed off the idea that MPs might be able to vote

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to stop us leaving the single market, if we choose to leave the

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EU. That was floated this week by Mike Conley, James Landale. And he

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confirmed there will be a decision on runways this summer. -- by my

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colleague. In the south-east. Precisely. One member of parliament

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said to me a couple of weeks ago, this is only going one way. The very

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widespread expectation that if David Cameron winds the runway will go

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ahead. Hugely contentious, it might not go that way, but that is the

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direction of travel. On voter registration, if you haven't got

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registered and you think you are entitled to and want to, you should

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keep going to the website? Yes, from the conversations I've had they

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should keep going but keep up... The BBC, as soon as we have clarity, we

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will let everyone know. We have only had the universal franchise for a

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100 years...! LAUGHTER Should just have a quill pen. What

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was Jeremy Corbyn trying to achieve today? Two things I think. The first

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was to point out if we stay within the European Union re-form is a

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process, not an event that you can do more within the European Union.

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On things like workers' rights, that's very important to us. A

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social dimension of Europe that we are really concerned about. Issues

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like the agency workers directive can be improved upon, and that is an

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important message to be made. I think the second thing he was doing

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was this extraordinary, what I call collective irresponsibility. Cameron

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has allowed his cabinet and ministers to take whatever side they

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want, but for some of them to be in government and responsible for the

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issues they are complaining about, but not dealing with them

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themselves, such as pretty Patel and Michael Gove... What happens ran

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that Cabinet table? Are issues they have raised about migration outside

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Europe, of which they have total control? I think with some subtlety

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he raised those two issues in his string of questions. Would it not

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have made more impact to develop these Sports Direct story? You must

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regard that as a rich seam for improving workers conditions

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question out and the BHS situation where 11,000 workers are going to

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lose their jobs, through no. Their own. They have never been on strike

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or asked for huge wage increase. They have all been hard-working. If

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you take Sports Direct and BHS, you could make a case, especially if you

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are Labour leader, for the unacceptable face of capitalism? But

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you only get so many questions. I am pleased he went on Europe, both of

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those issues can be resolved with domestic legislation. The people

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from HMRC, who police the minimum wage. I think if there is a link

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between the two, Jeremy would know the Mike Ashley situation, these

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Sports Direct situation, if anyone thought those kind of things were

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confined to the 19th or late 20th-century, they are still going

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on now. Juxtaposing that with the need for greater worker protection I

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think with a sensible move, and the European dimension of that. I know

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you all want to know, Michael Hancock has made a statement on

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voter registration. We're looking at all options, looking to see we can

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extend the deadline for applying to vote in the EU referendum. The

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website is now open and working. We strongly encourage people to

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register to vote online. Anyone who has already registered does not need

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to submit a fresh application. We are also offering additional

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resources to electoral registration officers to cover any additional

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admin costs. There we are. We have used the latest. Laura, thank you

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for being with us. Pleasure. Throughout the next week,

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we are going to be running a number of short films looking at how

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the BBC handles its coverage of the EU referendum,

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with the aim of achieving We will look at how the BBC selects

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audiences, how presenters do fair interviews and how to pick

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perfect political panels. Today, Adam starts by looking

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at the editorial guidelines the BBC Covering the EU referendum, we have

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to stick to a set of guidelines produced by BBC editorial

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adviser Rick Bailey, who I treat as a sort

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of 24/7 impartiality hotline. So what's the main thing

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I've got to think about? The key thing in guidelines

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for a referendum is that we must achieve broad

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balance, in other words, it's not about maths,

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it's about really good judgment and being fair to both

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sides in a consistent way. And the balance we're

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trying to achieve is between the arguments,

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the argument for Remain It's not necessarily

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between the campaigns, So the key thing is the broad

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balance the arguments in a Meanwhile the Prime Minister

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is giving a big speech Is it all right for David

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Cameron's speech to be the The Prime Minister's view is really

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important, and the strategy of the Prime Minister

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and Downing Street and the Remain side,

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it's important we cover that Don't forget that it's

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a very long campaign. So you don't have to measure each

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and every day and every bulletin to get

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perfect balance. What you have to do is think

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about being really consistent in the way you cover both sides,

:22:51.:22:52.

across the whole campaign. So of course that will mean David

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Cameron will get a lot of coverage on a day when he is making a big

:22:57.:23:01.

speech, but we need to approach the other side and their arguments

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in a similar way, to make sure the audience are hearing those, that

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range of argument in a balanced way. Campaigners for Britain

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to leave the EU have been attacking Barack Obama

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following his comments What do we do when someone

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like President Obama gets involved? Part of our job is to analyse that

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and scrutinise it and make sure You don't get balance by saying,

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we've had one president saying he is on the Remain side,

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we'd better find another American president who takes

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the opposite view. Our job is to do good journalism,

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and find out It's important the audiences hears

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all the arguments about that. Hi, Rick, it's Adam,

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what I do about the opinion In a referendum, where it's

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a one-off, where we haven't had a vote like this for a long time,

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the amount of data available is very limited, so opinion polls

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in referendums are very problematic. We will cover them,

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of course, because what happens in them will affect

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the politics and will affect how each side approaches it,

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but we will approach opinion polls Great, thanks, I promise

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you won't hassle you anymore. And Rick also writes

:24:31.:24:35.

guidance to help BBC journalists stay impartial

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during We have been scrupulously balanced

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on this programme, as demonstrated by our two guests. Let's talk about

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the truthfulness and honesty of the campaigns. Do you think questioning

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the honesty of the other side, which has been a key way politicians have

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tried to discredit the other side, has been a responsible way of

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conducting the campaign? I said it should be measured campaign and

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about the big issues. You don't think... The key thing about this is

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however many facts you want, you want more. Voters say we don't have

:25:25.:25:29.

enough facts, but you have to go with your common sense, York

:25:30.:25:32.

experience, your heart. Art matters. We getting into the minute I have

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facts? Hang on a minute, is this the truth or a lie. The Prime Minister

:25:41.:25:46.

says Turkey won't join the EU. True or not? Turkey have applied to join

:25:47.:25:51.

the EU and are on the waiting list. We passed a motion a short time ago.

:25:52.:25:58.

But of course, he is right it is not going to happen imminently. If we

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said they will come in tomorrow that would be untrue. But Turkey

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certainly want to be in the EU. Vote leaves have put out in response to

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David Cameron's appearance on the show last night on ITV, what they

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point out as five outright lies. The campaign is looking through the

:26:18.:26:21.

prism of truth and lies. At the end of the day there are always debates

:26:22.:26:27.

in all campaigns, all political exchange about who is right and who

:26:28.:26:31.

is wrong, of course that is true. But I don't think slurs are helpful

:26:32.:26:36.

and either side and it has happened on both sides. 80 million Turks will

:26:37.:26:40.

be able to have access to the UK if we stay in the EU? 85 million. It

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has gone up. I think the Leave side have been absolutely disgraceful

:26:50.:26:53.

about this. The posters don't say Turkey might join the EU but Turkey

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are joining the EU. It will take longer than my lifetime, given that

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they closed one chapter... Given the situation with Cyprus and their

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record with human rights. As it been an edifying way to conduct the

:27:08.:27:14.

campaign? No. On your side as well, lies, truth... When someone says 75

:27:15.:27:18.

million Turks, the whole population of Turkey going to wait at Calais to

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come to Britain... Come on! 350 million, they state we sent ?350

:27:26.:27:33.

million every week to the EU. We have to stop you there. In interest

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on balance we have to stop you there because we have run out of time.

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Now, just to let you know that I'll be on BBC One tonight for the second

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in my series of four extensive interviews with leading campaigners

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I've already spoken to the Shadow Foreign Secretary Hilary Benn,

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and tonight, I'll be joined live by the Chancellor,

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On Friday, I'll be interviewing Ukip leader Nigel Farage.

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And then the following Friday - that's June 17th -

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I'll be speaking to Leave campaigner and former

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Tory Cabinet Minister, Iain Duncan Smith, at the later time

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There's just time to put you out of your misery and give

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Robert got 1984, well done. I should have said, press the red button. Too

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late. You have both done it. Unity. They are both doing it! Thanks to

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all of our guests, I hope you can join me tonight. Goodbye.

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It's home to a million people at any one time...

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..consumes tens of millions of meals,

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burns around ?150 billion worth of jet fuel...

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