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David Cameron and Nigel Farage were both put on the spot last | :00:39. | :00:43. | |
night before an audience of voters on ITV. | :00:44. | :00:47. | |
The Ukip leader and Prime Minister both faced - separately - | :00:48. | :00:50. | |
hostile questions from a studio audience about the EU referendum. | :00:51. | :00:56. | |
Will the Government extend the deadline to register to vote | :00:57. | :00:58. | |
Technical glitches hit the official website just hours before | :00:59. | :01:04. | |
the midnight deadline, leaving wannabe voters | :01:05. | :01:06. | |
It's Prime Minister's Questions today - will the EU referendum | :01:07. | :01:14. | |
dominate or will Jeremy Corbyn choose to ask David Cameron | :01:15. | :01:24. | |
And how does the BBC achieve impartiality | :01:25. | :01:25. | |
and balance in its coverage of the EU referendum? | :01:26. | :01:27. | |
What's the main thing I've got to think about? | :01:28. | :01:32. | |
The key thing in guidelines for a referendum is that we must | :01:33. | :01:35. | |
All that in the next hour and a half and with us for the duration | :01:36. | :01:51. | |
Labour's Alan Johnson and Security Minister John Hayes. | :01:52. | :01:53. | |
Now one of our guests declared this week how proud he is to be | :01:54. | :01:56. | |
I know what you're thinking, that's not news, we already know | :01:57. | :02:00. | |
But no, it was Conservative Security Minister John Hayes. | :02:01. | :02:03. | |
It's something you both have in common. | :02:04. | :02:07. | |
Let's find out what else you have in common in the next | :02:08. | :02:10. | |
Now, last night Nigel Farage and David Cameron faced hostile | :02:11. | :02:26. | |
questions from some audience members in a live show on the UK's | :02:27. | :02:29. | |
membership of the European Union, on everything from immigration | :02:30. | :02:31. | |
The Ukip leader was the first to take to the stage. | :02:32. | :02:36. | |
This is, should be a British passport, | :02:37. | :02:41. | |
it says European union on it, all right? | :02:42. | :02:45. | |
I think, to make this country safer, we need to get | :02:46. | :02:49. | |
back British passports - so we can check anybody else | :02:50. | :02:52. | |
Are you not embarrassed that Justin Welby today said you're | :02:53. | :02:57. | |
Well, I'm sorry, and I'm not going to stand here and attack | :02:58. | :03:01. | |
the Archbishop of Canterbury, but I think he would have | :03:02. | :03:04. | |
done better to have read actually what I said, | :03:05. | :03:07. | |
I voted for you in the last election, because one | :03:08. | :03:11. | |
of the things on your manifesto was to get immigration down. | :03:12. | :03:14. | |
You haven't been able to do that, because you're not allowed | :03:15. | :03:17. | |
I can see my standard of living and my family's standard of living | :03:18. | :03:23. | |
going down because of this influx that we can't control. | :03:24. | :03:27. | |
Now I'm sorry to say, but your closing statement last week | :03:28. | :03:30. | |
was that if we leave the EU we are rolling a dice | :03:31. | :03:35. | |
By you telling us to stay in, you've rolled that dice already. | :03:36. | :03:42. | |
I worry if we leave, that we're going to see our economy | :03:43. | :03:50. | |
suffer, because we're going to lose access to the absolutely vital | :03:51. | :03:54. | |
I would say the right thing to do, the British thing to do, | :03:55. | :04:00. | |
is to fight for a Great Britain inside the European Union, | :04:01. | :04:04. | |
and don't take the Nigel Farage 'Little England' option. | :04:05. | :04:15. | |
Were you happy with how Nigel Farage presented your side of the argument | :04:16. | :04:20. | |
last night? I present the argument in my way and he does in his. I'm | :04:21. | :04:25. | |
not going to comment on him because he's a different political party | :04:26. | :04:29. | |
from mine. I just wondered how you thought he had done. We welcome | :04:30. | :04:34. | |
anybody who will bike for Brexit, but actually, the argument that is | :04:35. | :04:41. | |
being made across the spectrum on Brexit is about political power, | :04:42. | :04:44. | |
where Reddit exercised and how it held to account. I would world in | :04:45. | :04:50. | |
which people who hold the people who take decisions affecting them to | :04:51. | :04:54. | |
account in their interests. I'm comfortable when he says things like | :04:55. | :05:00. | |
if we stay in the EU, the risk more migrants coming here and therefore a | :05:01. | :05:05. | |
danger that British women will face alone style sex attacks? Are you | :05:06. | :05:10. | |
comfortable with that? I am sure that part of the EU is that free | :05:11. | :05:18. | |
movement poses all kinds of problems, but I'm not going to go | :05:19. | :05:21. | |
into that kind of talk because it's not my style. So you're not | :05:22. | :05:28. | |
comfortable with it? I'm not in the business of defending Mr garaged on | :05:29. | :05:34. | |
those specifics. Alan Johnson, the Prime Minister could not give a nod | :05:35. | :05:37. | |
to the gentleman who wanted to know why a highly skilled non-EU migrant | :05:38. | :05:44. | |
has trouble hitting here whereas a skilled EU migrant can just walk in? | :05:45. | :05:49. | |
I don't think he tempted to answer the question. He is in charge of a | :05:50. | :05:54. | |
highly skilled migrant and so is John, working together, because they | :05:55. | :05:59. | |
said the system for outside the EU so if we wanted more skilled people | :06:00. | :06:03. | |
from outside the EU, we can control that. Because that's the deal we | :06:04. | :06:12. | |
send up to. If you take your route, given who is coming in from the EU, | :06:13. | :06:16. | |
that could be the price of the single market, useful to be honest | :06:17. | :06:20. | |
about that and not try to obfuscate, if you want more non-EU, then | :06:21. | :06:27. | |
overall net migration is going to rise. He is failing at the Betty | :06:28. | :06:31. | |
controls, that's the problem for him. Last night, thought the | :06:32. | :06:34. | |
audience were brilliant, thought their questioning was really good. | :06:35. | :06:38. | |
The problem for David Cameron that Nigel Farage doesn't have is he is a | :06:39. | :06:43. | |
government minister coming is the Prime Minister responsible for all | :06:44. | :06:47. | |
this, so they can't just... Let me come back to my question, which is | :06:48. | :06:52. | |
if we wanted to let in more highly skilled people from outside the | :06:53. | :06:58. | |
Yukon but we stay in the EE, overall by definition, net migration is | :06:59. | :07:05. | |
going to go up. -- stay in the EU. If we take in more of the skills we | :07:06. | :07:10. | |
need from the non-thing-macro. The point is this, and this is where the | :07:11. | :07:14. | |
Cameron is right, this is a difficult problem to grapple with, | :07:15. | :07:19. | |
that balance. An Australian -based system, as Andrew Green has pointed | :07:20. | :07:24. | |
out, just adds to the huge complicity of a bureaucracy of | :07:25. | :07:30. | |
urology in. It is relevant... Not to my question. If you think the answer | :07:31. | :07:38. | |
is to leave the EU and thanking the economy, you will create a bigger | :07:39. | :07:41. | |
problem for your economy and employers in this country. The Messi | :07:42. | :07:48. | |
said last night that if you are an EU job-seeker, you don't have a job | :07:49. | :07:53. | |
but you come to look for a job, which many do, 77,000 did last year, | :07:54. | :07:58. | |
you have to leave up to six months if you haven't found work. That's | :07:59. | :08:03. | |
not true, is it? It is a strict application of habitual residency. | :08:04. | :08:08. | |
It is something that would take quite a bureaucracy to actually | :08:09. | :08:12. | |
police. Habitual residency is not the law here, nor is European law, | :08:13. | :08:18. | |
and since 1991, there is no compulsion to leave after six | :08:19. | :08:23. | |
months. My understanding is that the deal came back with on these | :08:24. | :08:27. | |
negotiations... It wasn't part of the negotiation but it pointed out | :08:28. | :08:32. | |
and put in his statement to Parliament, that that six-month rule | :08:33. | :08:36. | |
should apply. The ruling says it's reasonable to ask people to leave | :08:37. | :08:40. | |
after six months but there is no enforcement mechanism, how would you | :08:41. | :08:44. | |
identify EU job seekers who have been here for six months, at haven't | :08:45. | :08:48. | |
found work, how would you identify them to get them to go back? That's | :08:49. | :08:53. | |
the difficulty, but I don't think it's impossible. Not if still within | :08:54. | :08:58. | |
the European Union, and if this issue was something you could | :08:59. | :09:02. | |
discuss among other European Union countries, because it's reciprocal | :09:03. | :09:05. | |
for our people who go to look for work abroad that you could resolve | :09:06. | :09:11. | |
that. This law has been in place since 2014, are you aware of any EU | :09:12. | :09:16. | |
job-seeker sent back under it? I'm not aware of any. So it's not part | :09:17. | :09:22. | |
of the deal, at the moment, it's also on the EU no, you're not | :09:23. | :09:32. | |
allowed to systematically verify who is an EU job-seeker and who isn't. | :09:33. | :09:39. | |
It's not true, is it? When we were in office, we had a register of | :09:40. | :09:42. | |
workers who were from Eastern Europe and we found 40% of the names on | :09:43. | :09:46. | |
them had been here already, they had come over as illegal migrants. It's | :09:47. | :09:55. | |
another aspect of this that we can tackle if we are in the European | :09:56. | :10:01. | |
Union. Do you accept there is no compulsion for EU job-seeker who has | :10:02. | :10:04. | |
been here six months and hasn't got work, to go back home? I don't think | :10:05. | :10:08. | |
that's benevolent, no. I'm not saying it can't be... That's | :10:09. | :10:19. | |
implemented no. The fact is in your position, we have to choose tween | :10:20. | :10:26. | |
the single market and controls on EU immigration. Do you accept that the | :10:27. | :10:30. | |
trade-off and you would rather have control and immigration than access | :10:31. | :10:35. | |
to the single market? You claim that, but that would depend on the | :10:36. | :10:42. | |
negotiation. If we left the European Union, we would need to engage with | :10:43. | :10:45. | |
the European Union countries about the kind of deal we put together. | :10:46. | :10:50. | |
There is no country that has access to the single market, full access, | :10:51. | :10:54. | |
doesn't also have free movement with the EU? That is the ultimate that | :10:55. | :11:03. | |
has been made by Remain. But there was no country of our size and | :11:04. | :11:09. | |
scale, who wants to trade as much as ours, that has been that position. | :11:10. | :11:17. | |
The Government is looking into whether it's possible to extend | :11:18. | :11:19. | |
the deadline to register to vote in the EU referendum, | :11:20. | :11:21. | |
after a last minute rush in the hours before the midnight | :11:22. | :11:24. | |
deadline prompted the website to crash. | :11:25. | :11:27. | |
Labour, the Lib Dems, the SNP and the Electoral Commission | :11:28. | :11:31. | |
The Liberal Democrat leader Tim Farron joins us now | :11:32. | :11:37. | |
Welcome to the programme. Do you know how many people have been | :11:38. | :11:49. | |
affected by this technical glitch if I can call it that? Technical glitch | :11:50. | :11:56. | |
is what it is. Many, many thousands. We know that part of million people | :11:57. | :11:59. | |
attempted to register or successfully did yesterday, a | :12:00. | :12:03. | |
staggering number, about 300,000 of them were under the age of 35, which | :12:04. | :12:08. | |
gives you some picture of the breakdown of the demographics of all | :12:09. | :12:13. | |
of this, but we certainly think tens of thousands. Predominantly young | :12:14. | :12:15. | |
people but at the moment that is anecdotal. We shouldn't be judging | :12:16. | :12:21. | |
people on the basis of the point at which they chose to register. | :12:22. | :12:27. | |
Whether it is in January or somewhere in the middle. The point | :12:28. | :12:30. | |
is, the system broke down and that should not be a good enough excuse | :12:31. | :12:35. | |
to exclude these thousands of people from the franchise. Except that they | :12:36. | :12:40. | |
have had months to register in this referendum, it has not exactly been | :12:41. | :12:45. | |
a secret, has it? But they are not second class voters. Why didn't they | :12:46. | :12:52. | |
do it in good time? We shouldn't consider them to be second class | :12:53. | :12:54. | |
voters because they chose to register to vote on the last day, | :12:55. | :12:58. | |
it's just as legitimate and should be just as possible to register to | :12:59. | :13:03. | |
vote at ten or 11:59pm on the last day as it was to register back in | :13:04. | :13:09. | |
January, for example. What we can't have is those people who registered | :13:10. | :13:12. | |
within time being excluded because of the banality of a technical | :13:13. | :13:17. | |
glitch, I don't want to go around pointing the finger at government or | :13:18. | :13:20. | |
anybody else for this failure, I think it's entirely possible for us | :13:21. | :13:26. | |
to amend the law in an emergency statutory instrument or order in | :13:27. | :13:29. | |
Council, the government could do that today. Give people another 24 | :13:30. | :13:37. | |
hours. 24 hours. Is this a sign of desperation on your side of the | :13:38. | :13:40. | |
argument, you know that young people are more likely to bow to stay in, | :13:41. | :13:44. | |
you have discovered it may be young people most affected by not | :13:45. | :13:48. | |
registering on time, so you're desperate to get them on the | :13:49. | :13:52. | |
register? Certainly come I want to win the referendum. I don't want to | :13:53. | :13:57. | |
be in a situation that they often wear either side has won marginally, | :13:58. | :14:01. | |
and a greater number of people were excluded because of this glitch. | :14:02. | :14:05. | |
It's certainly something which is impressive and interesting that such | :14:06. | :14:08. | |
a large majority of those who did register on the last day where young | :14:09. | :14:12. | |
people, and we should all be taking note of the fact that the | :14:13. | :14:16. | |
overwhelming majority of young people want to remain in the | :14:17. | :14:19. | |
European Union, those of us who are a bit funny to think it's not about | :14:20. | :14:23. | |
our sure futures, we are voting for, but then longer ones. -- a bit | :14:24. | :14:27. | |
older. That sounds reasonable enough. It is of course right that | :14:28. | :14:33. | |
the cyclical aspects of this have gone awry, and it's being looked at, | :14:34. | :14:40. | |
but Tim knows this very well, we have all been involved in electoral | :14:41. | :14:45. | |
processes for a lump sum, there are deadlines for postal votes, proxy | :14:46. | :14:48. | |
votes, registration, that's what it is like to run an election. You have | :14:49. | :14:54. | |
got to have a deadline sometime. But if it's a technical glitch, you can | :14:55. | :15:00. | |
have people who have just left it too late and that was silly, you may | :15:01. | :15:06. | |
pay the price, but if they left it a bit late but then couldn't at the | :15:07. | :15:10. | |
last minute get on because of a technical glitch, that would be a | :15:11. | :15:11. | |
reason for extending it. There is an urgent question at 12.30 | :15:12. | :15:22. | |
on this. Mr Cameron will want this, won't he? We all want it and I hope | :15:23. | :15:28. | |
John wants, this to reflect the view of the British public of all ages, | :15:29. | :15:34. | |
and we are all making a big effort to point out it was June seven. In a | :15:35. | :15:39. | |
sense we were urging them, if you haven't registered now, get | :15:40. | :15:43. | |
registered. They tried to and there was a glitch, now we need to put | :15:44. | :15:48. | |
that back by 24-hour. It is a bit different to general election, if | :15:49. | :15:53. | |
you don't vote in this one you can wait for the next one, this is once | :15:54. | :15:59. | |
for all decision. You pass a law about a Bill and set deadlines, if | :16:00. | :16:03. | |
there is a technical problem we have to look at its. We are agreed on | :16:04. | :16:08. | |
this, so let's leave it. Tim Farron, we have to move on, but thank you. | :16:09. | :16:13. | |
We will see one happens in the urgent question in PMQs. | :16:14. | :16:15. | |
Anyone who follows politics knows no party's more prone to bouts | :16:16. | :16:17. | |
Unless, of course, it's the Conservative Party. | :16:18. | :16:24. | |
And now, with just 16 days to go to the EU referendum on 23rd June, | :16:25. | :16:28. | |
the Tories are most definitely in the mood. | :16:29. | :16:30. | |
It seems a long time ago that Conservatives were optimistically | :16:31. | :16:35. | |
planning an "orderly, well-mannered debate" which avoided | :16:36. | :16:37. | |
In March, Iain Duncan Smith delivered a powerful upper-cut, | :16:38. | :16:47. | |
quitting the Cabinet over welfare cuts but also going rouge over | :16:48. | :16:51. | |
the EU, saying David Cameron was presiding over "Project Fear". | :16:52. | :16:59. | |
On Sunday, John Major tried to deliver a knock-out blow | :17:00. | :17:01. | |
for Remain, claiming that trusting Michael Gove, Boris Johnson and IDS | :17:02. | :17:04. | |
on the NHS was like "leaving a pet hamster with a hungry python". | :17:05. | :17:11. | |
But Jacob Rees-Mogg counter-punched for the Leave campaign, | :17:12. | :17:14. | |
claiming Sir John's remarks were the "bitter ramblings | :17:15. | :17:16. | |
But it's not just the Conservatives rolling with the punches. | :17:17. | :17:23. | |
In the red-on-red corner, Labour MP Graham Stringer | :17:24. | :17:26. | |
sucker-punched Jeremy Corbyn, saying his pro-EU stance | :17:27. | :17:28. | |
was "not his natural or historic position". | :17:29. | :17:33. | |
And the Labour leader was hit below the belt by the party's Europhiles, | :17:34. | :17:37. | |
with Simply Red singer Mick Hucknall calling for him | :17:38. | :17:41. | |
to stop being a "shabby, spineless coward" and commit | :17:42. | :17:43. | |
Only another 15 days of this before we're saved by the bell and can | :17:44. | :17:50. | |
Now, John Hayes, what happened to this well mannered, orderly debate | :17:51. | :18:01. | |
David Cameron said was going to take place? Let me to you very plainly. I | :18:02. | :18:06. | |
have a lot of friends on both sides of this debate. Still? Yes, no | :18:07. | :18:12. | |
disagreement with any of them, this is about much more than that, this | :18:13. | :18:17. | |
is not about settling old scores. It is about much more than that. The | :18:18. | :18:22. | |
Prime Minister is clear my views on this, and I hope I remain a friend | :18:23. | :18:26. | |
and admirer of gum and the Chancellor, who I was with last | :18:27. | :18:29. | |
night, know are principled opponents on this issue. And they do so at a | :18:30. | :18:37. | |
higher level than that tittle tattle. You agree it is tittle | :18:38. | :18:43. | |
tattle? There is a Tory civil war breaking out every weekend in the | :18:44. | :18:47. | |
television studios. We have a responsibility to elevate above | :18:48. | :18:51. | |
that. There are two weeks to go and hasn't been elevated... Let's try | :18:52. | :18:57. | |
and do that today, elevate it, Alan and I will do that. We'll have to | :18:58. | :19:06. | |
elevate it. It is not just blue on blue, the whole debate needs to be | :19:07. | :19:10. | |
conducted in a way that is serious and mindful of its significant. You | :19:11. | :19:14. | |
may want to point and look at Labour. But blue on blue, that is | :19:15. | :19:18. | |
where most of the animosity has been directed. John Major took aim at | :19:19. | :19:23. | |
your side saying the campaign was squalid and deceitful, brandishing | :19:24. | :19:28. | |
Boris Johnson court jester. The Prime Minister has been branded by | :19:29. | :19:32. | |
your side as unworthy and dishonest. Is that the level of debate... The | :19:33. | :19:36. | |
Prime Minister stands head and shoulders above the other | :19:37. | :19:41. | |
politicians, that is why he is Prime Minister and whatever the result, he | :19:42. | :19:45. | |
should stay Prime Minister. What you make of like Madinda | :19:46. | :19:51. | |
-- MPs who have written a letter saying he should resign if he loses? | :19:52. | :19:59. | |
I told you what I think about it. We have a programme of government that | :20:00. | :20:03. | |
will continue after the 23rd of June. We have to settle this matter. | :20:04. | :20:09. | |
I hope we leave the European Union. And thereafter David Cameron leads | :20:10. | :20:14. | |
Britain. What should people do when they say David Cameron has lied | :20:15. | :20:21. | |
profoundly to the British public and is toast after the referendum? All | :20:22. | :20:27. | |
party leaders at all times have their critics. There is not a single | :20:28. | :20:30. | |
political party of any political party that has always enjoyed | :20:31. | :20:38. | |
universal support. But that is not what this debate is about. Do you | :20:39. | :20:45. | |
think calling a referendum on the issue has become a proxy for those | :20:46. | :20:49. | |
critics to talk about leadership? I think there was an inevitability | :20:50. | :20:55. | |
about a disagreement, but it is up to individual is how to conduct | :20:56. | :20:59. | |
that. I went to see David Cameron, I work with him very closely, he | :21:00. | :21:05. | |
wasn't surprised by my views in Europe. Since that time I have had | :21:06. | :21:09. | |
no row with him or any of my other colleagues. Have you been surprised | :21:10. | :21:15. | |
by the level of vitriol? Yeah... I'm surprised, certainly displeased. And | :21:16. | :21:22. | |
you're right, it is very easy to this for all kinds of other reasons. | :21:23. | :21:27. | |
I'm now, from this moment, making a call to all on both sides to elevate | :21:28. | :21:32. | |
the debate. You are not the first and probably won't be the last to do | :21:33. | :21:36. | |
that and it has fallen on deaf ears. How on earth do you stitch this back | :21:37. | :21:41. | |
together again? Whatever you say, the majority of politicians that | :21:42. | :21:46. | |
have come here have criticised, in pretty unpleasant terms, the other | :21:47. | :21:50. | |
side. How do you put a party together again after that? In | :21:51. | :21:54. | |
political parties, in our British system of government, there are | :21:55. | :21:59. | |
premiere or disagreements and there are temporary disagreements. That | :22:00. | :22:04. | |
doesn't mean parties can't hang together. We were elected a year ago | :22:05. | :22:08. | |
under David Cameron's leadership by the British people to govern this | :22:09. | :22:14. | |
country. That's what he needs to: doing, I hope outside of the EU. | :22:15. | :22:22. | |
Jeremy Corbyn is not a historic supporter or fan of the EU. Neither | :22:23. | :22:26. | |
is Hilary Benn or David Blunkett, if you look at the way people voted in | :22:27. | :22:30. | |
1975. I'm talking about more recently. Graham is one of a handful | :22:31. | :22:36. | |
of Labour MPs. If you look at where the Labour Party was last time we | :22:37. | :22:39. | |
had a referendum, they were split top to bottom, like Tories today. | :22:40. | :22:43. | |
Harold Wilson went after to try and get a deal and all of that. I take | :22:44. | :22:47. | |
the criticism we are disunited on many things but on this we are very | :22:48. | :22:53. | |
united, not just in the Labour Party and Parliamentary Labour Party but | :22:54. | :22:57. | |
in the trade unions, every major union has come out... I'm not | :22:58. | :23:02. | |
talking about disunity so much as lack of enthusiasm. If it comes down | :23:03. | :23:07. | |
to Labour Party members and MPs unable to get their turnout on the | :23:08. | :23:13. | |
day, that could really adversely affect... Yes, that is why we are | :23:14. | :23:19. | |
crucial to this. Mick Hucknall is a lifelong supporter. And saying | :23:20. | :23:22. | |
people like Jeremy Corbyn have not been out there, he has been | :23:23. | :23:28. | |
spineless, to quote him, not an enthusiastic cheerleader for Remain. | :23:29. | :23:33. | |
I think Mick has other issues with Jeremy Corbyn and this is just stick | :23:34. | :23:36. | |
to beat him with. You say he has been out there? Yes. The issue | :23:37. | :23:42. | |
Jeremy Corbyn is he has done all these town hall meetings across the | :23:43. | :23:47. | |
country, under the national media radar. The way to do these things is | :23:48. | :23:52. | |
to do today programme in the morning, do a big speech, dominate | :23:53. | :23:56. | |
the news all day. Jeremy has done that one we've asked him to do it, | :23:57. | :24:01. | |
aside from that he has doubled these meetings in Liverpool, Glasgow, | :24:02. | :24:04. | |
Suffolk. He does these meetings all the time. We want him to do some | :24:05. | :24:08. | |
more of those high-profile meetings and someone who has been converted, | :24:09. | :24:12. | |
was in the other camp but now sees the benefits of the EU, and would-be | :24:13. | :24:20. | |
Prime Minister... If John had come Prime Minister I would back him. | :24:21. | :24:27. | |
This is where you heard it first. No Prime Minister in their right mind | :24:28. | :24:30. | |
would suggest taking this country out of the European Union would be | :24:31. | :24:33. | |
the right thing to do for the people. What has it been like on the | :24:34. | :24:38. | |
doorstep? I have spoken to a number of Labour MPs who have been shocked | :24:39. | :24:42. | |
by the level of malaise from Labour voters who are not interested in | :24:43. | :24:46. | |
voting... And also they are not going to bother to turn out or vote | :24:47. | :24:52. | |
for Remain. There is that. It hasn't surprised me, because in a sense we | :24:53. | :24:56. | |
have not taken on this issue, the Labour Party. We have been quiet | :24:57. | :25:00. | |
about Europe for a long time. Every time the elections for the European | :25:01. | :25:04. | |
Parliament... We have to go and deliver leaflets... We have not made | :25:05. | :25:07. | |
the arguments for Europe ever since the time of the single currency and | :25:08. | :25:11. | |
we should have been, and now we are doing that job and I believe that | :25:12. | :25:16. | |
the end of the day Labour will be fundamentally a decision to Remain. | :25:17. | :25:21. | |
Could you put a word it with Jeremy Corbyn to do a one-on-one interview? | :25:22. | :25:26. | |
Andrew, nobody would do one-on-one interviews with use! How long has he | :25:27. | :25:31. | |
been Chancellor and Shadow Chancellor? Give Jeremy the same | :25:32. | :25:36. | |
level of years. I have to wait six years! I don't know if I will be | :25:37. | :25:40. | |
here. We have had a statement from the leaves campaign. On exchanging | :25:41. | :25:51. | |
extending the registration period. They say it is doing little to stop | :25:52. | :25:55. | |
EU nationals from voting on the referendum which needs to be | :25:56. | :25:58. | |
urgently investigated. Hillary Clinton has won the Californian | :25:59. | :26:05. | |
primary with 94% of the vote. That is quite a big margin, bigger than | :26:06. | :26:12. | |
many of the poll suggested. The 475 delegates in California are split | :26:13. | :26:17. | |
proportionally. A big win in the biggest state for Hillary Clinton. | :26:18. | :26:21. | |
Mr Bernie Sanders says he will fight on. | :26:22. | :26:22. | |
Now, it's time for the competition that will have the British public | :26:23. | :26:25. | |
leaving their desks in droves to crowd around TV screens | :26:26. | :26:27. | |
at lunchtime with high hopes of excitement and glory. | :26:28. | :26:29. | |
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Prime Minister's Questions is on its way. | :28:47. | :28:48. | |
And that's not all - Laura Kuenssberg is here. | :28:49. | :28:52. | |
Have you had the questions leaked to you? LAUGHTER | :28:53. | :28:59. | |
I think there are two things we can fairly confidently predict without | :29:00. | :29:03. | |
any leaks that will come up today. I expect the Prime Minister might try | :29:04. | :29:06. | |
to mention what has been going on with sterling in advance of the | :29:07. | :29:11. | |
referendum, which helps them about their warnings on the economy. | :29:12. | :29:15. | |
Whether that is down to the referendum is an entirely different | :29:16. | :29:18. | |
discussion, but I think he might crow bar that in there somewhere. I | :29:19. | :29:22. | |
think it would be very surprising if Jeremy Corbyn doesn't raise this | :29:23. | :29:26. | |
complete Horlicks with the voting registration website. A theme of | :29:27. | :29:32. | |
his. Yes, I think it was his first campaign as party leader he began a | :29:33. | :29:36. | |
campaign to get particularly young people to register. And given what | :29:37. | :29:42. | |
has happened in the last 24 hours, in a country like ours when all the | :29:43. | :29:45. | |
politicians have been urging people to vote, saying this is the biggest | :29:46. | :29:49. | |
decision in decades in Britain today, it feels pretty extraordinary | :29:50. | :29:54. | |
we cannot get a website work. As completely predictably happened at | :29:55. | :29:59. | |
the general election when there was a surge of people trying to sign up. | :30:00. | :30:04. | |
I remember the Obama administration when it began its health-care | :30:05. | :30:07. | |
reform, you had to go to the website to sign on and it crashed within | :30:08. | :30:12. | |
about an hour. Governments and websites don't go well together as. | :30:13. | :30:17. | |
They don't mix well at all. It will never catch on. This is not just a | :30:18. | :30:23. | |
story about Horlicks in government IT contracts, it's important not | :30:24. | :30:27. | |
just because of people's right to vote, but also important politically | :30:28. | :30:31. | |
here already this morning you have Vote Leave saying this is a mess, | :30:32. | :30:35. | |
but we're worried about the Electoral Commission not doing | :30:36. | :30:38. | |
enough to check EU citizens haven't somehow managed to register when | :30:39. | :30:41. | |
they are not entitled to do so in this poll. But also... I'm going to | :30:42. | :30:47. | |
wait for that, because it is time to Prime Minister's Questions. | :30:48. | :31:06. | |
Yesterday we commemorated women's suffrage and the importance of votes | :31:07. | :31:10. | |
for women. And women voting for women. Thousands wanted to vote | :31:11. | :31:16. | |
yesterday but due to massive demand were unable to. We'll be p.m. Update | :31:17. | :31:21. | |
the house on what he is doing to ensure everyone has a chance to | :31:22. | :31:25. | |
register their vote and can do so in this bottle vote for a generation? | :31:26. | :31:33. | |
Festival, let me join my honourable friend in remembering what the | :31:34. | :31:38. | |
suffragettes stood for -- Festival. The fact that we're cheap universal | :31:39. | :31:40. | |
suffrage in this country. On the issue she raises, I'm sure the whole | :31:41. | :31:45. | |
house will want to know the situation, it's extremely welcome | :31:46. | :31:49. | |
that so many people want to take part in this massive democratic | :31:50. | :31:54. | |
exercise, in this vital decision for our country, last night there was | :31:55. | :31:57. | |
record demand on the website from people concerned they might not be | :31:58. | :32:01. | |
registered to vote in the referendum and this caused an overload of the | :32:02. | :32:05. | |
system. I am clear that people should continue to register today. | :32:06. | :32:09. | |
The electoral commission have made a statement, they urge the | :32:10. | :32:12. | |
government... They will effectively extend the deadline. To make sure | :32:13. | :32:25. | |
those who registered today, and who registered last night, will be able | :32:26. | :32:34. | |
to vote in the EU referendum. I think it would be appropriate of the | :32:35. | :32:38. | |
house recognise and remembered the life of Mohammed Khalid today, not | :32:39. | :32:41. | |
only the greatest in his chosen field but someone who's coach and | :32:42. | :32:45. | |
which inspired so many -- Muhammad Ali. I had the honour of meeting his | :32:46. | :32:53. | |
wife in the nuts and 80s. I think we should commend his bravery in facing | :32:54. | :33:00. | |
Parkinson's disease. On campaigning on civil rights, antiracism and | :33:01. | :33:03. | |
peace, we have all lost one of the greatest. Yesterday, I met some | :33:04. | :33:12. | |
workers from sports direct to come to Parliament to give evidence about | :33:13. | :33:14. | |
the shocking behaviour of that company, nonpayment of the minimum | :33:15. | :33:18. | |
wage, a culture of intimidation and fear, on top of the insecurity and | :33:19. | :33:22. | |
exploitation of zero hours contracts. Philip wrote to me this | :33:23. | :33:27. | |
week on this issue and concerned about it, said, the scandalous | :33:28. | :33:32. | |
scourge of zero hours contracts, which is blighting the lives of many | :33:33. | :33:37. | |
already low-paid people. Will the Prime Minister do what some other | :33:38. | :33:41. | |
European countries have done and ban exploitative zero hours contracts | :33:42. | :33:47. | |
here? First let me join the Leader of the Opposition in pain should be | :33:48. | :33:50. | |
the life of Muhammad Lee, he was a hero in the ring, an enormous role | :33:51. | :33:56. | |
model outside the ring, what did it in terms of breaking down barriers | :33:57. | :34:00. | |
and encouraging integration is something should all celebrate. And | :34:01. | :34:05. | |
I'm sure we all try to plug a butterfly and sting like a bee at | :34:06. | :34:08. | |
this dispatch box though it's not always possible in the circumstances | :34:09. | :34:13. | |
we face. On the issue of sports direct and the appalling practice of | :34:14. | :34:18. | |
not paying the minimum wage, I have heard it and this government has | :34:19. | :34:21. | |
done more than any previous government to crack down on the | :34:22. | :34:26. | |
nonpayment. We have levelled almost 5000 penalties since 2010, we | :34:27. | :34:30. | |
continue to name and shame eligible employees when they investigation | :34:31. | :34:38. | |
has been closed -- eligible employers. And it is the nonpayment | :34:39. | :34:42. | |
are at a record high and the total value of penalties last year was 15 | :34:43. | :34:47. | |
times bigger than in 2010, so on top of our national living wage, we are | :34:48. | :34:51. | |
going after unscrupulous employers and making sure people get the deal | :34:52. | :34:58. | |
they deserve. On the issue of zero hours contracts, religious leaders | :34:59. | :35:04. | |
in the last Parliament to stop exclusive zero hours Parliament but | :35:05. | :35:07. | |
people at the conclusion of our consultation, which is shouldn't go | :35:08. | :35:13. | |
further than that and for some people, they want to have the of | :35:14. | :35:20. | |
those contracts. The case of sports direct shows that he would Mike | :35:21. | :35:28. | |
Ashley would make Scrooge like a good employer, but we should commend | :35:29. | :35:33. | |
the unions were exposing what went on and shows we must strengthen, not | :35:34. | :35:37. | |
weaken, workers' rights, particularly when there is criminal | :35:38. | :35:41. | |
activity involved. But his government... Employment Minister | :35:42. | :35:45. | |
said that if we leave Europe, we could just half the burdens of the | :35:46. | :35:51. | |
European Union, social and implement legislation. Perhaps the Prime | :35:52. | :35:57. | |
Minister could help us. There she speak on behalf of the government | :35:58. | :36:00. | |
when she promises to reduce the burden is, as she describes them, of | :36:01. | :36:05. | |
employment legislation, or on behalf of whom does she speak? The | :36:06. | :36:11. | |
government is in favour of staying in a reformed European Union because | :36:12. | :36:16. | |
we are stronger, safer and better off. For many people, one of the | :36:17. | :36:19. | |
reasons they will want to stay in the European Union is that they do | :36:20. | :36:23. | |
believe it provides an underpinning in terms of rights for workers and | :36:24. | :36:27. | |
implement rights. I would make the point in addition that we in this | :36:28. | :36:35. | |
house have repeatedly gone over and above those rights, we have the | :36:36. | :36:39. | |
right to request flexible working for all workers since 2014, we went | :36:40. | :36:43. | |
well beyond the maternity leave EU directive, giving 52 weeks maternity | :36:44. | :36:49. | |
leave, given shared parental leave, eight days more annual leave for | :36:50. | :36:52. | |
full-time workers than the EU working time directive. I believe | :36:53. | :36:57. | |
this modern, compassionate Conservative government has an | :36:58. | :37:00. | |
excellent record on these things, underpinned by our membership of the | :37:01. | :37:06. | |
European Union. If it is a modern, compassionate Conservative | :37:07. | :37:12. | |
government, as he describes it, why does it have an implement minister | :37:13. | :37:18. | |
who wants to reduce the burdens, she describes it, of employment | :37:19. | :37:20. | |
legislation and make work less secure? Could I quote one other | :37:21. | :37:25. | |
person who has given some opinions on these matters, he says, "I can't | :37:26. | :37:31. | |
guarantee every person currently in their current job will keep their | :37:32. | :37:37. | |
job. " That was the member for Surrey Heath who is the justice | :37:38. | :37:41. | |
minister, who seems equally relaxed about unemployment rights. So here's | :37:42. | :37:47. | |
the point Mr and a Justice minister who want to reduce what they | :37:48. | :37:50. | |
describe as workers protection as a burden. Can he do something about | :37:51. | :37:59. | |
that? As he knows, we are holding a referendum, that is what is | :38:00. | :38:02. | |
happening. The government has a clear position, which is we are | :38:03. | :38:06. | |
stronger, safer and better off inside a European Union, that is the | :38:07. | :38:09. | |
advice we are giving the boat is in our country, but there are ministers | :38:10. | :38:14. | |
in the government who in a personal capacity campaigning on another side | :38:15. | :38:17. | |
of the argument. I don't agree with them. So I don't agree with what the | :38:18. | :38:23. | |
honourable member for Surrey Heath says, although the honourable member | :38:24. | :38:27. | |
for which says, and I couldn't be clearer about that, the government | :38:28. | :38:31. | |
has a clear position. And on this issue, not only do he and I agree, | :38:32. | :38:36. | |
but only does the Conservative government and the Labour Party | :38:37. | :38:39. | |
agree, but we also have the support of the Liberal Democrats, the | :38:40. | :38:44. | |
support of the Ulster Unionist party, the support of the Green | :38:45. | :38:50. | |
party, this is one occasion when business is large and small and | :38:51. | :38:53. | |
trade unions are on the same site and I think we should celebrate that | :38:54. | :38:57. | |
and get out and campaign as hard as we can. But I do celebrate is the | :38:58. | :39:02. | |
work done by trade unions all across Europe. Persuading the European | :39:03. | :39:08. | |
Union to bring in four weeks paid holiday, laws against sex | :39:09. | :39:11. | |
discrimination, writes for part-time workers, writes for agency workers. | :39:12. | :39:19. | |
But two weeks ago, I raised with the Prime Minister the proposed | :39:20. | :39:23. | |
amendment to the posting of workers directive to close a loophole that | :39:24. | :39:28. | |
allows unscrupulous employers to exploit migrant workers and undercut | :39:29. | :39:34. | |
wages here. Will he now reply to my question and confirm that he will | :39:35. | :39:38. | |
argue in Europe for the amendment to close this loophole that allows this | :39:39. | :39:44. | |
exploitation to go on? I think I said last, we support the current | :39:45. | :39:47. | |
draft, we went to see this sorted out, we have been working with the | :39:48. | :39:51. | |
Dutch Prime Minister who is reading this work and we think an amendment | :39:52. | :39:54. | |
to this will be worthwhile. The current draft is good and we back | :39:55. | :39:59. | |
it. I'm pleased he is backing it but I hope he ensures it goes through. | :40:00. | :40:04. | |
There is another issue I raised with him a couple of weeks ago full stop | :40:05. | :40:10. | |
and that is the anger that exists all over this country, indeed all | :40:11. | :40:13. | |
over the western world, about tax avoidance. I agree that we are more | :40:14. | :40:18. | |
likely to make progress inside the European Union than outside on tax | :40:19. | :40:23. | |
avoidance, but his members of the European Parliament have not been | :40:24. | :40:29. | |
supporting country by country tax transparency, that would force | :40:30. | :40:32. | |
companies to publish their tax payments in each country in which | :40:33. | :40:36. | |
they operate. Will he now tell us when this is going to be supported | :40:37. | :40:40. | |
by his MEPs, when it will go through, to close down just one of | :40:41. | :40:45. | |
the many tax loopholes that exist at the present time? Festival, I would | :40:46. | :40:50. | |
do that no government has done more nationally the crackdown on tax | :40:51. | :40:56. | |
evasion -- first of all. And I would also argue that no government has | :40:57. | :40:59. | |
done more internationally to bring this up the international agenda, | :41:00. | :41:06. | |
made it my centrepiece of the G8, we are now driving change in the | :41:07. | :41:12. | |
European union. Let me confirm, my MEPs to support country by country | :41:13. | :41:14. | |
reporting and they have said that over and over again and I'm happy to | :41:15. | :41:20. | |
repeat that again. I'm really pleased that his MEPs support it, we | :41:21. | :41:24. | |
are all delighted about that, I'd hope they get round to voting for it | :41:25. | :41:27. | |
when the opportunity comes up because that would certainly help. | :41:28. | :41:32. | |
He will be aware that the Labour position is that we want to stay in | :41:33. | :41:35. | |
the European Union to improve workers's writes, tackle | :41:36. | :41:40. | |
exportation, drive down tax evasion and tax avoidance. But we are | :41:41. | :41:46. | |
concerned that these issues are not the priorities of members of his | :41:47. | :41:52. | |
government and his party, such as the member for Uxbridge, the member | :41:53. | :41:56. | |
for Surrey Heath and the member for that. They are speaking to try and | :41:57. | :42:02. | |
destroy any of the social advances made within the European Union. Does | :42:03. | :42:06. | |
he talk to them about this at any time and do they speak for | :42:07. | :42:09. | |
themselves or him and his government, and if they speak for | :42:10. | :42:12. | |
themselves, how are they ministers at the same time? And here I am | :42:13. | :42:19. | |
trying to be so consensual. I am doing my best. I could of course | :42:20. | :42:21. | |
mention that the honourable member for Edgbaston was out there | :42:22. | :42:26. | |
yesterday spelling for Nigel Farage? But I don't want to play that game. | :42:27. | :42:32. | |
I'd want to stress the unity of purpose, particularly over tax | :42:33. | :42:35. | |
evasion, because there is a serious point here. What we have in prospect | :42:36. | :42:39. | |
in the European Union, in part because of British action is the | :42:40. | :42:45. | |
idea of saying that if large foreign multinationals want to invest in the | :42:46. | :42:49. | |
European Union, they will have two report... All over the world. | :42:50. | :43:03. | |
They can unite and saves will be a good thing and shows that when | :43:04. | :43:08. | |
Britain pushes an agenda in Europe, it wins for our citizens. The Prime | :43:09. | :43:15. | |
Minister has repeatedly stated that he secured changes to reform in the | :43:16. | :43:20. | |
EU, will he now confirmed that on the 3rd of June, the voters are not | :43:21. | :43:26. | |
guaranteed any treaty change to EU nor, as no treaty change was | :43:27. | :43:32. | |
achieved despite a promise to deliver international agreement | :43:33. | :43:36. | |
cannot change EU nor? Finally released up-to-date grating our | :43:37. | :43:44. | |
great country, it is a sign he's losing the argument. -- can he stop | :43:45. | :43:49. | |
denigrating our great country. I know he has strong views about this | :43:50. | :43:54. | |
issue and so do I, but on the specific point you wrote is, I'm | :43:55. | :43:59. | |
afraid he's not correct. In the renegotiation we secured the vital | :44:00. | :44:02. | |
treaty changes, one on getting Britain out of ever closer union, | :44:03. | :44:07. | |
and on the protection for our currency. I don't except for one | :44:08. | :44:12. | |
minute that in any way supporting Britain being a member of reform | :44:13. | :44:17. | |
European Union is turning our country down. I think if you love | :44:18. | :44:20. | |
your country can really wanted to be strong in the world, if you love | :44:21. | :44:23. | |
your country, you want opportunities for young people, you don't want to | :44:24. | :44:28. | |
act in a row that could lead to its break-up and that is why what I want | :44:29. | :44:32. | |
to see is not Nigel Farage's little England, I want to see a strong | :44:33. | :44:47. | |
Britain in Europe. Last week, thousands of dead from both sides in | :44:48. | :44:50. | |
the battle of Jutland well remembered in conversions. -- the | :44:51. | :44:56. | |
rhythm that. The Prime Minister joined the Princess Royal, President | :44:57. | :44:59. | |
of Germany and the First Minister, with thousands of people on Orkney | :45:00. | :45:08. | |
to remember the tragedy. European cooperation emerged from both world | :45:09. | :45:11. | |
wars as the best way to secure peace. Does the Prime Minister agree | :45:12. | :45:15. | |
that we should never take peace and security for granted and that it is | :45:16. | :45:19. | |
a strong reason to remain in the European union? | :45:20. | :45:26. | |
I think the right honourable gentleman is right about this, there | :45:27. | :45:32. | |
were very memorable scenes as we stood on that cemetery ground and in | :45:33. | :45:35. | |
the background the British and German frigates together was a sight | :45:36. | :45:40. | |
I am not going to forget, as we commemorated and remembered how many | :45:41. | :45:44. | |
people lost their lives. I want to be clear about this. The words world | :45:45. | :45:48. | |
War three have never passed my lips, let me reassure everyone about that, | :45:49. | :45:53. | |
but can we really take for granted... Of course, they have now | :45:54. | :45:58. | |
well spotted a! LAUGHTER Can we really take for granted the | :45:59. | :46:03. | |
security and stability we enjoy today, when we know our continent | :46:04. | :46:07. | |
has been wracked by so many conflicts in the past. Like all | :46:08. | :46:11. | |
Conservatives, I would always give the greatest credit to Nato for | :46:12. | :46:14. | |
keeping the peace but I think it has always been a Conservative view the | :46:15. | :46:17. | |
European Union has played its role as well. | :46:18. | :46:23. | |
This is not about world War Three but the reality on facts that there | :46:24. | :46:27. | |
have been at war is on the European continent, but outside the European | :46:28. | :46:30. | |
Union Bay have happened in the Balkans, Ukraine, the Caucasus, it | :46:31. | :46:37. | |
is also a fact there have never, ever been any examples, not one | :46:38. | :46:41. | |
single example of armed conflict between member states of the | :46:42. | :46:45. | |
European Union. Will the Prime Minister take the time, the little | :46:46. | :46:50. | |
time that is left ahead of the European referendum, to stress the | :46:51. | :46:54. | |
positive advantages of cooperation, of peace and of stability to us all, | :46:55. | :46:58. | |
not just the single market all the rights we have as citizens, peace | :46:59. | :47:06. | |
and prosperity is an advantage to us all and that is why we should remain | :47:07. | :47:10. | |
in the European Union. I think the strongest argument for | :47:11. | :47:14. | |
the Government's position of wanting us to stay is we will be better off, | :47:15. | :47:19. | |
that that market a 500 million people is absolutely essential for | :47:20. | :47:22. | |
our businesses. I think the argument I was just making that we would be | :47:23. | :47:25. | |
stronger in the world, in terms of getting things done for Britain and | :47:26. | :47:29. | |
our citizens is important, but the argument that we are safer and more | :47:30. | :47:33. | |
secure because of the European Union is a means for dialogue between | :47:34. | :47:37. | |
countries that were previously adversaries and something I will | :47:38. | :47:41. | |
never forget. However frustrating it can get around that table with 27 | :47:42. | :47:45. | |
other prime ministers and presidents, you never forget these | :47:46. | :47:47. | |
were countries previously in conflict. Now we talk, discussed, | :47:48. | :47:52. | |
argued and decide that is a far better way of doing things. | :47:53. | :47:59. | |
If my constituents in the coalfields of Nottinghamshire are to share in | :48:00. | :48:02. | |
the economic success driven by this government, they have to have access | :48:03. | :48:06. | |
to employment via good quality public services. Can the Prime | :48:07. | :48:10. | |
Minister give me any assistance in my campaign to open the Robin Hood | :48:11. | :48:15. | |
to Linux, to extend it to various vintages so we can get them on a | :48:16. | :48:22. | |
train into a job? -- extend the line? Quality infrastructure is | :48:23. | :48:26. | |
vital for our economy and I am pleased to say following | :48:27. | :48:29. | |
representations from my honourable friend and others, the Department | :48:30. | :48:35. | |
for Transport have revised the project so lines like the Robin Hood | :48:36. | :48:39. | |
line can benefit from government money to kick-start the man get them | :48:40. | :48:44. | |
going. In 2003, the current Prime Minister | :48:45. | :48:53. | |
and most of today's cabinet joined Tony Blair and his Cabinet at the | :48:54. | :48:59. | |
time in joining the war in Iraq. This is historically factual and | :49:00. | :49:02. | |
cannot be denied. We'll not the judgment of Chilcott be discredited | :49:03. | :49:09. | |
if the report fails to recognise that the then Prime Minister | :49:10. | :49:14. | |
honestly and genuinely believed that his actions, given the information | :49:15. | :49:18. | |
available, was the right thing to do at the time? What I would say to the | :49:19. | :49:24. | |
right honourable lady, and I remember very powerful speeches she | :49:25. | :49:27. | |
made at the time with all the concerns she had for the people in | :49:28. | :49:34. | |
Iraq, and particularly the Kurds, we should wait for the Chilcot Report | :49:35. | :49:37. | |
and what it has to say. I have no idea what is in it, all I do know is | :49:38. | :49:41. | |
its publication is coming quite soon. | :49:42. | :49:47. | |
The European Union recently admitted it has a black hole in its finances | :49:48. | :49:54. | |
of around ?19 billion. 18 months ago my right honourable friend said he | :49:55. | :50:00. | |
won't not pay the EU the surcharge, effectively a final British | :50:01. | :50:03. | |
taxpayers, yet he later was forced to pay up. What reassurance with my | :50:04. | :50:07. | |
right honourable friend give the House that hard-working British | :50:08. | :50:11. | |
taxpayers will not be forced to pay money in this black hole of our | :50:12. | :50:14. | |
nation votes to stay in the European Union and would he accept our only | :50:15. | :50:19. | |
option is for our constituents to vote to Leave the EU? | :50:20. | :50:25. | |
The reassurance I can give my right honourable friend is we fixed the | :50:26. | :50:31. | |
European budget for a seven-year period between 2014-2020 and we | :50:32. | :50:36. | |
fixed the total for that budget that was lower than the previous seven | :50:37. | :50:40. | |
year period and means European budgets are going to go down and not | :50:41. | :50:45. | |
up. That cannot be changed. This is a very important point, the overall | :50:46. | :50:51. | |
ceiling of spending is determined by all 28 Prime Minister 's and | :50:52. | :50:55. | |
presidents. There is a veto over changing it, just as there is a veto | :50:56. | :50:59. | |
over the British rebate. The only person who can give up British | :51:00. | :51:03. | |
rebate is the British Prime Minister and as I long as I'm standing here | :51:04. | :51:07. | |
and Prime Minister there is absolutely no prospect of that | :51:08. | :51:13. | |
happening. Now, I will, as he ended his question with a remark, I will | :51:14. | :51:18. | |
end mine with a remark there is no expert that is saying we would make | :51:19. | :51:23. | |
a saving from leaving the EU. The only black hole there would be would | :51:24. | :51:27. | |
be in our public finances because we would have a smaller economy, lower | :51:28. | :51:31. | |
tax receipts, so we would have to cut spending or put up taxes to make | :51:32. | :51:43. | |
up for the fact. Provided audio and visual | :51:44. | :51:51. | |
information... I have asked the transport minister on this subject. | :51:52. | :51:54. | |
Could the Prime Minister commit his government to sign up to an | :51:55. | :51:58. | |
amendment to the buses Bill which would provide better access ability | :51:59. | :52:02. | |
for all? I will look very closely at what he | :52:03. | :52:07. | |
says. I think I am right in saying the buses Bill is a devolved matter, | :52:08. | :52:11. | |
so it affects issues in England rather than issues in Scotland. But | :52:12. | :52:15. | |
let me look carefully at what it says because we want to make sure | :52:16. | :52:19. | |
disabled people can properly use the bus services we have. | :52:20. | :52:24. | |
My right honourable friend will be aware it is five years since the | :52:25. | :52:29. | |
announcement by Pfizer to scale down operations. Since then with | :52:30. | :52:34. | |
enterprise zone status there has been an enterprise of high-tech | :52:35. | :52:37. | |
businesses on site within climate levels now up to nearly the previous | :52:38. | :52:42. | |
position. He has previously promised a trip to South Thanet, can I ask | :52:43. | :52:48. | |
once more to come see the success in my constituency? | :52:49. | :52:54. | |
I am delighted to make that... To answer that offer and say I would | :52:55. | :52:58. | |
like to go. Ira member very well it was early in 2010 when Pfizer made | :52:59. | :53:05. | |
that decision. I think there were real concerns this would lead to an | :53:06. | :53:10. | |
exit of jobs and investment in my right honourable friend's | :53:11. | :53:14. | |
constituency. Want to take pay tribute to David Willetts, who did a | :53:15. | :53:18. | |
great job working with others, including a local MP, to get | :53:19. | :53:21. | |
businesses to locate in the constituency and to show there is a | :53:22. | :53:26. | |
very strong pharmaceutical and life sciences industry in our country, | :53:27. | :53:31. | |
providing the jobs we need. With industrialists like Braque so | :53:32. | :53:40. | |
and had touchy saying if we left the jobs would be lost, the Brexit | :53:41. | :53:44. | |
economist has revealed their strategy means manufacturing would | :53:45. | :53:50. | |
be mostly eliminated. Would the Prime Minister join me... In calling | :53:51. | :53:59. | |
on the Brexit leaders to say how many other people's jobs they would | :54:00. | :54:04. | |
sacrifice on the altar of their own bid... | :54:05. | :54:09. | |
I think the honourable lady makes an important point, which is one of the | :54:10. | :54:13. | |
reasons why it international companies like Hitachi invest here | :54:14. | :54:25. | |
is because we are members of the single market. I did what the head | :54:26. | :54:28. | |
of Hitachi said this week about wanting us to be the European | :54:29. | :54:32. | |
headquarters, to manufacture those trained in the north-east and solve | :54:33. | :54:35. | |
all over Europe and how that might not be possible if we were to leave | :54:36. | :54:39. | |
was an incredibly powerful statement. So in my clear view, jobs | :54:40. | :54:44. | |
come first, and if people want to vote for jobs, they should vote for | :54:45. | :54:51. | |
Remain on the 23rd of June. Speaking at many universities, | :54:52. | :54:53. | |
colleges and schools across England, and also through organisations | :54:54. | :55:01. | |
organised by the universities UK, University UK and Allianz group I | :55:02. | :55:04. | |
have been struck by the strong interest young people have in | :55:05. | :55:09. | |
remaining in the EU. Does the Prime Minister agree with me that Britain | :55:10. | :55:13. | |
should take a firm lead in the European Union to promote the | :55:14. | :55:16. | |
interests of young people and for their careers, research and | :55:17. | :55:18. | |
opportunities in the future generally? | :55:19. | :55:22. | |
I think our universities have been pretty much unanimous in recommended | :55:23. | :55:28. | |
we vote to stay in the EU, I think that is partly because of the | :55:29. | :55:32. | |
opportunities young people will have of being in the single market of 500 | :55:33. | :55:36. | |
million people. Also our universities do well from research | :55:37. | :55:38. | |
funding which is helping to create the businesses and jobs of the | :55:39. | :55:44. | |
future, where we contribute 11 seven of the budget, we received 16% of | :55:45. | :55:48. | |
the allocated funding. Staying in Europe is good for students opted to | :55:49. | :55:52. | |
use, good for young people's opportunities and good for science | :55:53. | :55:56. | |
base. Yesterday the defence committee, | :55:57. | :56:02. | |
Admiral Lord West, commented the Ministry of Defence had effectively | :56:03. | :56:05. | |
run out of money for shipbuilding. Given reports another vessel had to | :56:06. | :56:11. | |
be a squatted over British waters overnight, does the Prime Minister | :56:12. | :56:16. | |
agree that the delay in building new frigates is causing problems and it | :56:17. | :56:21. | |
is essential the money is allocated to deliver this programme in full | :56:22. | :56:26. | |
and on schedule? It is certainly not the case that | :56:27. | :56:31. | |
this country in anyway has run out of money, or run out of ambition | :56:32. | :56:36. | |
when it comes to shipbuilding. We are currently building the two | :56:37. | :56:40. | |
largest ships the Royal Navy has ever had and we are shortly going to | :56:41. | :56:45. | |
be commissioning the type 26 programme, as well as the offshore | :56:46. | :56:48. | |
patrol vessels. The point I would make to the honourable member is | :56:49. | :56:52. | |
there is only one way we could threaten shipbuilding on the Clyde | :56:53. | :56:56. | |
and that would be to pull out of the United Kingdom and see the jobs be | :56:57. | :57:03. | |
decimated as a result. Mr Speaker, the beauty of a | :57:04. | :57:08. | |
referendum is that every voter has an equal voice, every vote carries | :57:09. | :57:13. | |
equal weight and members of Parliament have no more political | :57:14. | :57:16. | |
superiority over anyone else. Does my right honourable friend accept | :57:17. | :57:20. | |
the referendum is not a consultation but an instruction to Parliament | :57:21. | :57:24. | |
from the British people? Is it not incumbent on all of us to accept in | :57:25. | :57:29. | |
advance that Remain would mean remain and Leave would mean leaves, | :57:30. | :57:33. | |
and any attempt to short-change or distort the verdict of the British | :57:34. | :57:36. | |
people would be a democratic outrage? | :57:37. | :57:40. | |
I think my right honourable friend is absolutely right. Every vote | :57:41. | :57:44. | |
counts the same. We have asked the British people for their opinion and | :57:45. | :57:48. | |
we should treat their decision as an instruction to deliver. I know many | :57:49. | :57:53. | |
people would like me to be a bit more nuanced in what I think, to say | :57:54. | :57:58. | |
there are two options, they both have some merit, it is a balanced | :57:59. | :58:01. | |
decision. That might have made my life easier but the problem is, I | :58:02. | :58:05. | |
don't believe it. I very strongly believe we are better off if we stay | :58:06. | :58:09. | |
in and that is why the Government is saying so clearly to the British | :58:10. | :58:13. | |
people and I am saying clearly, better off stronger and safer, but | :58:14. | :58:17. | |
in the end it is the British people's decision. | :58:18. | :58:22. | |
Only last week the Prime Minister was rightly extolling the virtues of | :58:23. | :58:26. | |
the EU as a means to tackle pollution. Yet over recent months | :58:27. | :58:30. | |
the UK Government has led efforts to water down a key you directive aimed | :58:31. | :58:34. | |
at reducing the number of people who die every year from breathing in | :58:35. | :58:39. | |
toxic air. Can you tell us why? What we're doing in our own country | :58:40. | :58:43. | |
is making sure we improve our air quality, go for these cleaner air | :58:44. | :58:47. | |
zones and we have seen a major reduction in particular is in the | :58:48. | :58:51. | |
air over the last two years and we continue doing just that. | :58:52. | :58:58. | |
What the Prime Minister said today I think is right, we have to go and | :58:59. | :59:04. | |
campaign. But I remember what you said yesterday about notifying | :59:05. | :59:08. | |
members if they are going to be in the constituency. Can I say to the | :59:09. | :59:14. | |
Prime Minister, a group of leave campaigners will be descending on | :59:15. | :59:19. | |
Whitney at lunchtime on the Sunday. I will be there. And will the Prime | :59:20. | :59:23. | |
Minister be able to join as and given what he has just said, would | :59:24. | :59:29. | |
he confirm that if the country votes to Leave, he would be able to stay | :59:30. | :59:36. | |
on as Prime Minister and negotiate the exit? | :59:37. | :59:40. | |
I am very sorry I won't be able to meet my honourable friend. I am | :59:41. | :59:46. | |
making an appearance on the Andrew Marr programme on Sunday, but I | :59:47. | :59:51. | |
would recommend he goes to the fleece pub in Whitney and spends as | :59:52. | :59:53. | |
much time and money there rather than anything else. | :59:54. | :00:01. | |
Will we have a decision into the Davis report on airport expansion by | :00:02. | :00:07. | |
The Times the House rises this summer and does he stand by his | :00:08. | :00:12. | |
word, personally, no ifs, no buts, no third runway at Heathrow question | :00:13. | :00:16. | |
mark I absolutely stand by what I said, that we will have a decision | :00:17. | :00:20. | |
by this in the summer and we do need to decide. | :00:21. | :00:30. | |
Next week the breakfast will take place in Westminster Hall when 600 | :00:31. | :00:35. | |
people will gather, yet also this week we hear of a Christian union | :00:36. | :00:40. | |
being banned from holding prayer and Bible study meetings. Reportedly on | :00:41. | :00:46. | |
the grounds that government's anti-terrorism prevent strategy. | :00:47. | :00:49. | |
Does the Prime Minister agrees such action moves never intended? | :00:50. | :00:57. | |
Of course, what my honourable friend says is right. I will not be able to | :00:58. | :01:02. | |
attend the prayer breakfast. I know is a very good event and brings a | :01:03. | :01:05. | |
lot of people together and means a lot to Christians around our | :01:06. | :01:09. | |
country. The point she makes about the present duty being misused, I | :01:10. | :01:15. | |
haven't heard of that exact example, but it is clearly ludicrous. People | :01:16. | :01:19. | |
do need to exercise some common sense in making these judgments | :01:20. | :01:22. | |
because it is quite clear that was not what was intended. | :01:23. | :01:27. | |
Every day around 6000 people, many children, take on new caring | :01:28. | :01:31. | |
responsible at his providing on paid care for a family member or friend. | :01:32. | :01:35. | |
Yet many carers say they feel abandoned by everyone, including the | :01:36. | :01:40. | |
Government. Will the pride as the pledges government to do much better | :01:41. | :01:45. | |
for the 9500 carers in my constituency and the many across the | :01:46. | :01:51. | |
country customer I pay tribute to the carers across our country for | :01:52. | :01:55. | |
the selfless work they do, for the immense amount of money they save | :01:56. | :01:58. | |
taxpayers every year. But above all, for the love and | :01:59. | :02:02. | |
commitment they give to the people they are caring for. What we have | :02:03. | :02:06. | |
done is try to help by increasing the number of carers breaks, because | :02:07. | :02:10. | |
many carers will say the one thing they need to go on caring is an | :02:11. | :02:14. | |
occasional break and this time away from their caring responsible at | :02:15. | :02:17. | |
ease. We should continue to work on all those things to help our carers. | :02:18. | :02:23. | |
The largest single source of employment and wealth in my | :02:24. | :02:27. | |
constituency is the London based financial services market. Does the | :02:28. | :02:30. | |
Prime Minister agree with me that the opportunity to continue trading | :02:31. | :02:35. | |
freely in a 500 million single market in financial services, with | :02:36. | :02:42. | |
completed capital markets union is an unparalleled and optimistic | :02:43. | :02:46. | |
opportunity for my constituents and one though no sensible businessman | :02:47. | :02:52. | |
would turn his back on. My honourable friend makes an important | :02:53. | :02:55. | |
point and here it is worth understanding what the single market | :02:56. | :03:00. | |
means. It means a financial services company based in the UK effectively | :03:01. | :03:05. | |
has a passport to trade in 27 other EU countries. If we are to leave and | :03:06. | :03:10. | |
if we leave the single market, we lose that passport right. So by | :03:11. | :03:15. | |
definition, many of the firms would have to relocate at least some of | :03:16. | :03:20. | |
their staff into another European Union country. HSBC have said they | :03:21. | :03:24. | |
would have to scrap 1000 jobs. JP Morgan said they | :03:25. | :03:35. | |
would have to scrap 4000 jobs. Lloyd's came out and said many jobs | :03:36. | :03:39. | |
in insurance would be under threat. This is a concrete example of why | :03:40. | :03:42. | |
the single market matters. I would make the point, because this doesn't | :03:43. | :03:44. | |
just affect his constituency but two thirds of jobs at our outside London | :03:45. | :03:47. | |
and this accounts for 7% of Arab, me. So when experts warn of effects | :03:48. | :03:48. | |
on jobs and To with me that about to leave on | :03:49. | :04:01. | |
the 23rd of June would be a hammer blow for the British steel industry? | :04:02. | :04:06. | |
Would he agree to meet with me in order to discuss a number of | :04:07. | :04:12. | |
decisions being made in the context of the sale process, imminent | :04:13. | :04:14. | |
decisions that will have a huge impact on thousands of jobs in | :04:15. | :04:24. | |
marketed to unseat? I am looking? My honourable gentleman as is the | :04:25. | :04:27. | |
Business Secretary to help in what we can to secure a future for Tata, | :04:28. | :04:34. | |
and that sales process is progressing. We are better off | :04:35. | :04:39. | |
inside the European Union for steel because together, as one of 28 | :04:40. | :04:43. | |
countries, we are better able to stand up, whether it is to the | :04:44. | :04:46. | |
Chinese or Americans, over dump steel. Where we put in place those | :04:47. | :04:54. | |
dumping tariffs you can see 99% reductions in the quantity of | :04:55. | :04:57. | |
Chinese deal in this category is being imported into the EU. We still | :04:58. | :05:04. | |
face a difficult situation, there is massive overcapacity but we are | :05:05. | :05:07. | |
definitely better off as part of this organisation, fighting for | :05:08. | :05:11. | |
British steel workers jobs. Will the address an issue that the Remain | :05:12. | :05:18. | |
campaign has pledged and that is our present immigration policy, in all | :05:19. | :05:20. | |
truthfulness, cannot control the numbers coming in from the EU for | :05:21. | :05:26. | |
the benefit of our public services but actually discriminates against | :05:27. | :05:29. | |
the rest of the world, outside the EU? Having spent my evening | :05:30. | :05:40. | |
yesterday with Mr Farage, I'm confused about what it was that the | :05:41. | :05:46. | |
Leave can actually want, thought they would less immigration but | :05:47. | :05:50. | |
never seem to want more immigration from the EU into our country. -- now | :05:51. | :05:59. | |
they seem to want. You should come and work ever for years before you | :06:00. | :06:02. | |
get full access to our welfare system, no more something for | :06:03. | :06:06. | |
nothing, people pay in before they get out and then we should focus on | :06:07. | :06:10. | |
proper controls on migration from outside the EU on which we have made | :06:11. | :06:15. | |
some progress and we can do more. That's the right answer, but the | :06:16. | :06:19. | |
alternative, of an Australian point system, they have twice as much | :06:20. | :06:23. | |
immigration per head as we have here in the UK. That's not the right | :06:24. | :06:30. | |
answer for Britain. As he reaches the end of his time in office... | :06:31. | :06:39. | |
President Obama reflected... His worst mistake was the catastrophe in | :06:40. | :06:44. | |
Libya. What was the Prime Minister's worst mistake in his time in office? | :06:45. | :06:48. | |
The time to reflect on your mistakes is clearly close to the end of your | :06:49. | :06:52. | |
time in office so that doesn't apply! | :06:53. | :07:00. | |
I'm sure the honourable lady is delighted to receive... | :07:01. | :07:08. | |
PMQ 's coming to an end there. Mr Corbyn brought up the issue of | :07:09. | :07:21. | |
sports direct. -- Sports Direct. On the number of problems they were | :07:22. | :07:27. | |
having in that company, working practices there. And a couple of | :07:28. | :07:33. | |
questions on that, he moved on to the need for the EU to provide | :07:34. | :07:43. | |
workers's writes, he decided to attack Priti Patel, who is | :07:44. | :07:49. | |
campaigning to leave the EU. She is an employment minister who says she | :07:50. | :08:00. | |
wants fewer rights for workers. And he talked about the originating the | :08:01. | :08:06. | |
labour market and he brought up the posted workers directive again. And | :08:07. | :08:09. | |
country by country reporting of profits. We will look at all of this | :08:10. | :08:16. | |
in a minute. I think it is still going on, at the moment. I'm not | :08:17. | :08:26. | |
sure if we are going back to it. We have come out a bit early, let's go | :08:27. | :08:28. | |
back in. The Prime Minister ensure that given | :08:29. | :08:38. | |
the number of visitors and the security threats and all the rest of | :08:39. | :08:41. | |
it that the British Embassy and consular staff are fully geared up | :08:42. | :08:45. | |
and resourced to deal with the problems that will arise | :08:46. | :08:50. | |
undoubtedly? I'm grateful for the Right Honourable member for rating | :08:51. | :08:54. | |
this issue and I'm sure this is one occasion when the whole house will | :08:55. | :08:57. | |
want all the Home Nations to stay in Europe for as long as possible. Come | :08:58. | :09:06. | |
on now. I'm going to be watching. Our first game is England against | :09:07. | :09:11. | |
Russia, and I'm going to be watching carefully to check we get strong | :09:12. | :09:16. | |
support! But he makes an important point, which is that this is a very | :09:17. | :09:20. | |
big security undertaking, half a million people are planning to leave | :09:21. | :09:26. | |
the UK to go to this tournament, we have set out clear travel advice | :09:27. | :09:29. | |
because people do need to know that there is a significant terrorist | :09:30. | :09:35. | |
threat in France today and there is a potential threat to this | :09:36. | :09:41. | |
tournament. We set out clearly, the threat level in front is critical, | :09:42. | :09:44. | |
the threat level for the tournament is severe and people need to know | :09:45. | :09:49. | |
that. The French security operation is enormous, 77,000 police, 10,000 | :09:50. | :09:55. | |
military personnel, 13,000 security guards, we're providing additional | :09:56. | :09:59. | |
public order support to the French, including deployment of additional | :10:00. | :10:03. | |
police on trains into France, outbound checks and we are helping | :10:04. | :10:08. | |
with sniffer dogs and other areas the French ask us for. We all want | :10:09. | :10:13. | |
to see a great celebration of European football. I wish all the | :10:14. | :10:17. | |
Home Nations well, it's brilliant that Northern Ireland have made it | :10:18. | :10:19. | |
to this tournament and of course Wales and of course England. I look | :10:20. | :10:26. | |
forward to, in the breaks in this campaign, watching sympathetic | :10:27. | :10:26. | |
football. I think that is the end of PMQ 's! I | :10:27. | :10:41. | |
gave a summary of what Mr Corbyn had said so no need to repeat it. You | :10:42. | :10:49. | |
said it was the penultimate PMQ 's today, I think you are right, there | :10:50. | :10:53. | |
could be one next week, the house is rising on Wednesday so there should | :10:54. | :10:57. | |
be won but there is a possibility it might be cancelled before the | :10:58. | :11:04. | |
referendum. I certainly hope not! E-mails. He said, tactically strong | :11:05. | :11:08. | |
punches from Jeremy Corbyn who cleverly argued for a social Europe. | :11:09. | :11:13. | |
No knockout but Mr Cameron was on the ropes. Helen said Jeremy Corbyn | :11:14. | :11:17. | |
is boring us all with the minutiae of the EU. Someone tell him no one | :11:18. | :11:23. | |
can guarantee anyone's job. John said perhaps it's time for him to | :11:24. | :11:27. | |
realise there are times even for the Leader of the Opposition, to back | :11:28. | :11:30. | |
the Prime Minister, especially when they hold the same view is that UK | :11:31. | :11:36. | |
should remain within the EU, or is this a lie? Jeffery says the Messi | :11:37. | :11:40. | |
was upbeat considering the pressure he is under, his comments about | :11:41. | :11:45. | |
other parties supporting him was pretty desperate stuff -- says the | :11:46. | :11:52. | |
Prime Minister was upbeat. Did we learn from the Prime Minister about | :11:53. | :11:58. | |
this vote of the station business, the website crashing last night, | :11:59. | :12:01. | |
people who want to register not able to do, calls for an extension? | :12:02. | :12:08. | |
Always happy to be wrong, Jeremy Corbyn did actually raise it above | :12:09. | :12:11. | |
the Prime Minister Inc that into his answers. There are talks going on | :12:12. | :12:15. | |
between the government and the electoral commission, looking for a | :12:16. | :12:17. | |
way to legally and practically extending the deadline somehow. It's | :12:18. | :12:24. | |
not clear how that will be, were in uncharted territory here because the | :12:25. | :12:28. | |
deadline is normally hard and fast deadline, because there has to be | :12:29. | :12:31. | |
some kind of deadline, if we extended the 24 hours and suddenly | :12:32. | :12:34. | |
there was a rush tonight on the website crashed again, do you do it | :12:35. | :12:39. | |
all again next day? Local authorities have two Eric Abidal | :12:40. | :12:43. | |
after they go to this website so a lot of people will have thought, we | :12:44. | :12:47. | |
have fixed the website, there is an important verification process to | :12:48. | :12:51. | |
combat electoral fraud after you have signed up. But watch this | :12:52. | :12:57. | |
space, we're not quite sure what it's going to be but I think the | :12:58. | :13:01. | |
government is clearly keen to come up with some kind of deal that has | :13:02. | :13:07. | |
the effect of an extension. We see big numbers for registration but is | :13:08. | :13:10. | |
it not true that among those who have been rushing to register, they | :13:11. | :13:15. | |
had not been entitled to register, some of them, and some of them are | :13:16. | :13:21. | |
actually already registered? Important to caveat this, so we know | :13:22. | :13:24. | |
that half a million people have registered on the website in recent | :13:25. | :13:27. | |
days, a huge number, many of them may already be on the register. Just | :13:28. | :13:34. | |
in case you go on, you sign up again to make sure you get your polling | :13:35. | :13:38. | |
card, so we don't know how many of them are new voters who want to vote | :13:39. | :13:44. | |
for the first time, or not. What we know is huge numbers of people have | :13:45. | :13:50. | |
been under 35, hypothetically plays well for the Remain side. As you | :13:51. | :13:53. | |
say, there is concern about people who might not be entitled to vote, | :13:54. | :13:59. | |
this is something that vote Leave are talking about. EU nationals who | :14:00. | :14:05. | |
live in this country, even who have been here for a while and work and | :14:06. | :14:10. | |
pay tax and National Insurance, they are not allowed the boat? Not | :14:11. | :14:14. | |
automatically, you then get into a question about links of residency. | :14:15. | :14:21. | |
The Schalke links. You have to apply for it, that takes time. Same | :14:22. | :14:29. | |
process as a general election. He will have to tell his wife she is | :14:30. | :14:33. | |
not entitled to vote. The recent white it is considerably younger | :14:34. | :14:39. | |
people is used to register on the part of household, that changed to | :14:40. | :14:43. | |
individual registration and the people who missed out the most were | :14:44. | :14:46. | |
the kids who had gone off to live elsewhere. That started under | :14:47. | :14:56. | |
Michael Wales, great friend of mine. The point that was it was to deal | :14:57. | :15:00. | |
with fraud. Individual registration was designed to make sure people | :15:01. | :15:05. | |
didn't register a whole group of people, some of whom were entitled | :15:06. | :15:09. | |
and sunburnt. At the moment, the website is close, there is no point | :15:10. | :15:16. | |
in them going to register? We don't know that, we don't know the | :15:17. | :15:20. | |
situation has changed, a source said to me that people should keep going | :15:21. | :15:23. | |
and basically keep trying to see what happens. Because the website is | :15:24. | :15:29. | |
a website that is there all the time. So if you register... I don't | :15:30. | :15:34. | |
think it has crashed at the moment but what we don't know is if you | :15:35. | :15:40. | |
register now, whether you will get onto the enrolling for the | :15:41. | :15:42. | |
referendum or just for future elections. | :15:43. | :15:47. | |
If they don't sort this out there could be some argy-bargy at the | :15:48. | :15:53. | |
polling booths. Most people think this referendum is going to be | :15:54. | :15:57. | |
tight, and therefore what the Government wants to do is squashed | :15:58. | :16:01. | |
down any reason that might give people hesitation after the vote to | :16:02. | :16:07. | |
say somehow this wasn't fair, there was foul play here, anything in a | :16:08. | :16:11. | |
close vote which might shift it one way or the other. The tickly for the | :16:12. | :16:17. | |
Leave side who feel so strongly about this and making calls about | :16:18. | :16:21. | |
there not being a level playing field because of the Government | :16:22. | :16:25. | |
taking a position. Two other brief things worth pointing out, the Prime | :16:26. | :16:30. | |
Minister pretty much killed off the idea that MPs might be able to vote | :16:31. | :16:34. | |
to stop us leaving the single market, if we choose to leave the | :16:35. | :16:39. | |
EU. That was floated this week by Mike Conley, James Landale. And he | :16:40. | :16:43. | |
confirmed there will be a decision on runways this summer. -- by my | :16:44. | :16:52. | |
colleague. In the south-east. Precisely. One member of parliament | :16:53. | :16:56. | |
said to me a couple of weeks ago, this is only going one way. The very | :16:57. | :17:03. | |
widespread expectation that if David Cameron winds the runway will go | :17:04. | :17:09. | |
ahead. Hugely contentious, it might not go that way, but that is the | :17:10. | :17:14. | |
direction of travel. On voter registration, if you haven't got | :17:15. | :17:18. | |
registered and you think you are entitled to and want to, you should | :17:19. | :17:23. | |
keep going to the website? Yes, from the conversations I've had they | :17:24. | :17:28. | |
should keep going but keep up... The BBC, as soon as we have clarity, we | :17:29. | :17:33. | |
will let everyone know. We have only had the universal franchise for a | :17:34. | :17:39. | |
100 years...! LAUGHTER Should just have a quill pen. What | :17:40. | :17:48. | |
was Jeremy Corbyn trying to achieve today? Two things I think. The first | :17:49. | :17:55. | |
was to point out if we stay within the European Union re-form is a | :17:56. | :17:59. | |
process, not an event that you can do more within the European Union. | :18:00. | :18:02. | |
On things like workers' rights, that's very important to us. A | :18:03. | :18:07. | |
social dimension of Europe that we are really concerned about. Issues | :18:08. | :18:11. | |
like the agency workers directive can be improved upon, and that is an | :18:12. | :18:17. | |
important message to be made. I think the second thing he was doing | :18:18. | :18:22. | |
was this extraordinary, what I call collective irresponsibility. Cameron | :18:23. | :18:25. | |
has allowed his cabinet and ministers to take whatever side they | :18:26. | :18:30. | |
want, but for some of them to be in government and responsible for the | :18:31. | :18:34. | |
issues they are complaining about, but not dealing with them | :18:35. | :18:39. | |
themselves, such as pretty Patel and Michael Gove... What happens ran | :18:40. | :18:42. | |
that Cabinet table? Are issues they have raised about migration outside | :18:43. | :18:49. | |
Europe, of which they have total control? I think with some subtlety | :18:50. | :18:54. | |
he raised those two issues in his string of questions. Would it not | :18:55. | :18:58. | |
have made more impact to develop these Sports Direct story? You must | :18:59. | :19:07. | |
regard that as a rich seam for improving workers conditions | :19:08. | :19:11. | |
question out and the BHS situation where 11,000 workers are going to | :19:12. | :19:16. | |
lose their jobs, through no. Their own. They have never been on strike | :19:17. | :19:22. | |
or asked for huge wage increase. They have all been hard-working. If | :19:23. | :19:27. | |
you take Sports Direct and BHS, you could make a case, especially if you | :19:28. | :19:32. | |
are Labour leader, for the unacceptable face of capitalism? But | :19:33. | :19:36. | |
you only get so many questions. I am pleased he went on Europe, both of | :19:37. | :19:43. | |
those issues can be resolved with domestic legislation. The people | :19:44. | :19:47. | |
from HMRC, who police the minimum wage. I think if there is a link | :19:48. | :19:53. | |
between the two, Jeremy would know the Mike Ashley situation, these | :19:54. | :19:56. | |
Sports Direct situation, if anyone thought those kind of things were | :19:57. | :20:01. | |
confined to the 19th or late 20th-century, they are still going | :20:02. | :20:06. | |
on now. Juxtaposing that with the need for greater worker protection I | :20:07. | :20:10. | |
think with a sensible move, and the European dimension of that. I know | :20:11. | :20:16. | |
you all want to know, Michael Hancock has made a statement on | :20:17. | :20:23. | |
voter registration. We're looking at all options, looking to see we can | :20:24. | :20:28. | |
extend the deadline for applying to vote in the EU referendum. The | :20:29. | :20:33. | |
website is now open and working. We strongly encourage people to | :20:34. | :20:37. | |
register to vote online. Anyone who has already registered does not need | :20:38. | :20:42. | |
to submit a fresh application. We are also offering additional | :20:43. | :20:46. | |
resources to electoral registration officers to cover any additional | :20:47. | :20:52. | |
admin costs. There we are. We have used the latest. Laura, thank you | :20:53. | :20:53. | |
for being with us. Pleasure. Throughout the next week, | :20:54. | :20:56. | |
we are going to be running a number of short films looking at how | :20:57. | :20:59. | |
the BBC handles its coverage of the EU referendum, | :21:00. | :21:02. | |
with the aim of achieving We will look at how the BBC selects | :21:03. | :21:04. | |
audiences, how presenters do fair interviews and how to pick | :21:05. | :21:13. | |
perfect political panels. Today, Adam starts by looking | :21:14. | :21:15. | |
at the editorial guidelines the BBC Covering the EU referendum, we have | :21:16. | :21:18. | |
to stick to a set of guidelines produced by BBC editorial | :21:19. | :21:31. | |
adviser Rick Bailey, who I treat as a sort | :21:32. | :21:35. | |
of 24/7 impartiality hotline. So what's the main thing | :21:36. | :21:41. | |
I've got to think about? The key thing in guidelines | :21:42. | :21:50. | |
for a referendum is that we must achieve broad | :21:51. | :21:54. | |
balance, in other words, it's not about maths, | :21:55. | :21:56. | |
it's about really good judgment and being fair to both | :21:57. | :21:59. | |
sides in a consistent way. And the balance we're | :22:00. | :22:03. | |
trying to achieve is between the arguments, | :22:04. | :22:07. | |
the argument for Remain It's not necessarily | :22:08. | :22:08. | |
between the campaigns, So the key thing is the broad | :22:09. | :22:12. | |
balance the arguments in a Meanwhile the Prime Minister | :22:13. | :22:17. | |
is giving a big speech Is it all right for David | :22:18. | :22:24. | |
Cameron's speech to be the The Prime Minister's view is really | :22:25. | :22:30. | |
important, and the strategy of the Prime Minister | :22:31. | :22:38. | |
and Downing Street and the Remain side, | :22:39. | :22:39. | |
it's important we cover that Don't forget that it's | :22:40. | :22:42. | |
a very long campaign. So you don't have to measure each | :22:43. | :22:44. | |
and every day and every bulletin to get | :22:45. | :22:47. | |
perfect balance. What you have to do is think | :22:48. | :22:50. | |
about being really consistent in the way you cover both sides, | :22:51. | :22:52. | |
across the whole campaign. So of course that will mean David | :22:53. | :22:56. | |
Cameron will get a lot of coverage on a day when he is making a big | :22:57. | :23:01. | |
speech, but we need to approach the other side and their arguments | :23:02. | :23:06. | |
in a similar way, to make sure the audience are hearing those, that | :23:07. | :23:09. | |
range of argument in a balanced way. Campaigners for Britain | :23:10. | :23:12. | |
to leave the EU have been attacking Barack Obama | :23:13. | :23:21. | |
following his comments What do we do when someone | :23:22. | :23:22. | |
like President Obama gets involved? Part of our job is to analyse that | :23:23. | :23:33. | |
and scrutinise it and make sure You don't get balance by saying, | :23:34. | :23:36. | |
we've had one president saying he is on the Remain side, | :23:37. | :23:43. | |
we'd better find another American president who takes | :23:44. | :23:45. | |
the opposite view. Our job is to do good journalism, | :23:46. | :23:47. | |
and find out It's important the audiences hears | :23:48. | :23:49. | |
all the arguments about that. Hi, Rick, it's Adam, | :23:50. | :23:55. | |
what I do about the opinion In a referendum, where it's | :23:56. | :24:04. | |
a one-off, where we haven't had a vote like this for a long time, | :24:05. | :24:11. | |
the amount of data available is very limited, so opinion polls | :24:12. | :24:16. | |
in referendums are very problematic. We will cover them, | :24:17. | :24:23. | |
of course, because what happens in them will affect | :24:24. | :24:25. | |
the politics and will affect how each side approaches it, | :24:26. | :24:27. | |
but we will approach opinion polls Great, thanks, I promise | :24:28. | :24:30. | |
you won't hassle you anymore. And Rick also writes | :24:31. | :24:35. | |
guidance to help BBC journalists stay impartial | :24:36. | :24:45. | |
during We have been scrupulously balanced | :24:46. | :24:57. | |
on this programme, as demonstrated by our two guests. Let's talk about | :24:58. | :25:01. | |
the truthfulness and honesty of the campaigns. Do you think questioning | :25:02. | :25:05. | |
the honesty of the other side, which has been a key way politicians have | :25:06. | :25:10. | |
tried to discredit the other side, has been a responsible way of | :25:11. | :25:14. | |
conducting the campaign? I said it should be measured campaign and | :25:15. | :25:19. | |
about the big issues. You don't think... The key thing about this is | :25:20. | :25:24. | |
however many facts you want, you want more. Voters say we don't have | :25:25. | :25:29. | |
enough facts, but you have to go with your common sense, York | :25:30. | :25:32. | |
experience, your heart. Art matters. We getting into the minute I have | :25:33. | :25:40. | |
facts? Hang on a minute, is this the truth or a lie. The Prime Minister | :25:41. | :25:46. | |
says Turkey won't join the EU. True or not? Turkey have applied to join | :25:47. | :25:51. | |
the EU and are on the waiting list. We passed a motion a short time ago. | :25:52. | :25:58. | |
But of course, he is right it is not going to happen imminently. If we | :25:59. | :26:01. | |
said they will come in tomorrow that would be untrue. But Turkey | :26:02. | :26:07. | |
certainly want to be in the EU. Vote leaves have put out in response to | :26:08. | :26:10. | |
David Cameron's appearance on the show last night on ITV, what they | :26:11. | :26:17. | |
point out as five outright lies. The campaign is looking through the | :26:18. | :26:21. | |
prism of truth and lies. At the end of the day there are always debates | :26:22. | :26:27. | |
in all campaigns, all political exchange about who is right and who | :26:28. | :26:31. | |
is wrong, of course that is true. But I don't think slurs are helpful | :26:32. | :26:36. | |
and either side and it has happened on both sides. 80 million Turks will | :26:37. | :26:40. | |
be able to have access to the UK if we stay in the EU? 85 million. It | :26:41. | :26:49. | |
has gone up. I think the Leave side have been absolutely disgraceful | :26:50. | :26:53. | |
about this. The posters don't say Turkey might join the EU but Turkey | :26:54. | :26:57. | |
are joining the EU. It will take longer than my lifetime, given that | :26:58. | :27:03. | |
they closed one chapter... Given the situation with Cyprus and their | :27:04. | :27:07. | |
record with human rights. As it been an edifying way to conduct the | :27:08. | :27:14. | |
campaign? No. On your side as well, lies, truth... When someone says 75 | :27:15. | :27:18. | |
million Turks, the whole population of Turkey going to wait at Calais to | :27:19. | :27:25. | |
come to Britain... Come on! 350 million, they state we sent ?350 | :27:26. | :27:33. | |
million every week to the EU. We have to stop you there. In interest | :27:34. | :27:39. | |
on balance we have to stop you there because we have run out of time. | :27:40. | :27:44. | |
Now, just to let you know that I'll be on BBC One tonight for the second | :27:45. | :27:48. | |
in my series of four extensive interviews with leading campaigners | :27:49. | :27:50. | |
I've already spoken to the Shadow Foreign Secretary Hilary Benn, | :27:51. | :27:54. | |
and tonight, I'll be joined live by the Chancellor, | :27:55. | :27:57. | |
On Friday, I'll be interviewing Ukip leader Nigel Farage. | :27:58. | :28:03. | |
And then the following Friday - that's June 17th - | :28:04. | :28:05. | |
I'll be speaking to Leave campaigner and former | :28:06. | :28:07. | |
Tory Cabinet Minister, Iain Duncan Smith, at the later time | :28:08. | :28:10. | |
There's just time to put you out of your misery and give | :28:11. | :28:21. | |
Robert got 1984, well done. I should have said, press the red button. Too | :28:22. | :28:47. | |
late. You have both done it. Unity. They are both doing it! Thanks to | :28:48. | :28:53. | |
all of our guests, I hope you can join me tonight. Goodbye. | :28:54. | :29:02. | |
It's home to a million people at any one time... | :29:03. | :29:06. | |
..consumes tens of millions of meals, | :29:07. | :29:08. | |
burns around ?150 billion worth of jet fuel... | :29:09. | :29:12. |