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Morning folks - welcome to the Daily Politics.

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The people have spoken but what kind of parliamentary scrutiny should

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Should the right of EU citizens to continue to live in the UK

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after we leave be a bargaining chip in Brexit negotiations or should

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the British Government say that they are welcome

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And they're back - after a three-week break -

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Theresa May will face Jeremy Corbyn at PMQs.

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And they are great at soaking up countless pints of lager

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but could the trusty kebab also be a health food?

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I wouldn't know! Certainly doesn't look it!

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CHUCKLES All that in the next 90 minutes

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of the very finest public And with me for the duration today

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two pictures of health who I'm sure have never touched a kebab -

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nor downed countless pints of lager - the Agriculture Minister,

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George Eustice and - recently returned to

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Jeremy Corbyn's front bench - the Shadow Work and Pensions

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Minister, Jack Dromey. Welcome to you both. Morning.

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Morning. Now - Labour has posed

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170 Brexit questions - one for every day until Theresa

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May's deadline for triggering Article 50 - that cover everything

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from the economy to immigration, They've also tabled a Commons motion

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- which will be the first set piece Commons debate on Brexit -

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calling for proper Parliamentary Labour's motion calls for a "full

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and transparent debate on the Government's plan for leaving

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the EU" and "proper scrutiny" in Parliament before

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Article 50 is triggered. The Government usually vote down

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opposition motions like this. But instead they have tabled

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an amendment adding that parliamentary scrutiny must "respect

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the decision of the people" and not undermine the Government's

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negotiating position. Was this designed to see off

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a rebellion by Conservative MPs? One Labour source said last night

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that the Government "didn't have the votes" to defeat

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the opposition motion. The Government only has a slender

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majority in the House of Commons, winning a majority of 12 at the last

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General Election. In practice Theresa May has

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a working majority of 16 - that's because the four Sinn Fein

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MPs don't take up their seats. But 184 of her Conservative MPs

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campaigned for Remain. And roughly three quarters

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of all MPs were in favour of staying 475 declared for Remain

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and 158 for Leave. Could some seek to defy

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the will of the Government - and arguably the electorate -

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by voting down legislation designed Thanks, Joker. George Eustice and

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Jack Dromey are in the studio and we are joined by Conservative MP

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Stephen Phillips in the Central Lobby, who campaigned for Brexit but

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now calls for more Parliamentary scrutiny of the government's plans.

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Ucog for a debate before Article 50 is triggered. What do you want MPs

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to agree before the negotiations? -- you called. The government has a

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clear mandate from the British people to take the United Kingdom

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out of the European Union. What the government doesn't have is a mandate

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to the particular form Brexit will take so it needs to come to this

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place, which is actually where the sovereignty of this nation is

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invested and discuss and debate with those who are here on behalf of

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their constituents precisely what form they think Brexit should take.

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There is no doubt Brexit will happen, that's what the Prime

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Minister has said and what the majority of British people voted for

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Gore albeit by a slim majority. But the question is, what form will

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Brexit take? The government must come here and ask Parliament. So you

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want Parliament to decide what form Brexit should take?

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The government needs to lay a substantive motion before the House

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of Commons saying these are the broad thrusts of what we are seeking

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to achieve in the negotiations. We want, for example, to retain

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membership of the single European market, we want to regain control

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over our own borders which was something that was so important to

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so many people. This is what we want to achieve. Do you as Parliament

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agree that is the former Brexit which the country once and are we

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moving in the right direction? How do you retain membership of the

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Single Market and gain control over your own borders? Those two things

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are completely contrary. I don't agree, we are the fifth largest

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economy in the world, we speak English, we are in the middle of the

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world in terms of time zones, we are one of the permanent members of the

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Security Council. We know all of that. Can you name me one country

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that is a member of the Single Market that has control over its

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borders? I cannot, Andrew but we are saying we are in a position where we

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are in a position where we can negotiate a bespoke deal for the

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British people and that's the Government's position and what

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Parliament needs to do is have some say in what that bespoke deal should

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be about and that is all this is about at the moment, the sovereignty

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of this institution. What would happen if Parliament voted against

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triggering Article 50? I don't see how Parliament can vote against

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triggering Article 50. Parliament is here to serve the will of the people

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and the will of the British people is clear, majority of them wanted to

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leave the European Union. What is not clear is what the British people

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wanted in terms of the Brexit that the Government will negotiate and

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that's why the government has to come here to the sovereign body and

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ask parliamentarians on behalf of their constituents what form our

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future relationship with the European Union should take.

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Explained to me, the Government comes forward with the broad

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outlines of its negotiating position and the Commons doesn't like them

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and votes against them. What happens next? May be the Government must

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think again and seek a mandate direct from the British people to

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approve its position. They have a mandate called the referendum. The

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referendum gives the Government mandate to take the United Kingdom

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out of the European Union but does not give any mandate to decide what

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those terms are without coming to Parliament. The campaign to leave

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was clear on a number of things. You can agree or disagree on them but

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the campaign was clear they wanted to leave because they didn't want

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the European Court of Justice to apply anymore to us. They wanted

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full control of our borders. They wanted freedom to make free trade

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deals as an individual nation, not part of the EU Customs union. That

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in itself sets the parameters for what the negotiating position will

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be if the government is to live up to what the people voted for on June

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the 23rd. You started that sentence with the campaign to leave wanted

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these things. Not everybody was a campaign am a member of the campaign

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to leave, I wasn't I didn't agree with a lot of what they said and I

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thought the campaign itself was divisive, xenophobic and full of

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untruths but there are many people in this country who voted for a

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variety of reasons. They didn't necessarily vote for the reasons

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that the official Leave campaign was advancing. What bit of the three

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things I've just given you did the people vote Democratic to leave not

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vote for? I will tell you what I voted for. I'm asking about the

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people. They did not vote to get out of the European Court of Justice,

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for our own free-trade deals and vote for the end of free movement of

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people? I don't know. Unless you've been and asked the 17.2 million

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people what their views were and why they voted as they did you don't

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know the answer to that question. I do, the exit polling is quite clear

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on this. A large number of people voted for the same reason I do, you

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should be about to throw out of office the people who make the rules

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by which you live your life, in other words about sovereignty.

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That's why I voted as I did and I didn't vote to remove the tyranny of

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the European Commission and restore the sovereignty of this place for

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the government then to ignore that sovereignty and not come and ask

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members of Parliament what they think about this. Stephen Phillips,

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thank you for joining us. George Eustice, how many of your colleagues

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feel the same way? Not many and I think Stephen is overreacting

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because the truth is Parliament will debate this issue ad infinitum for

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the next six months. We have two debates today, one on the European

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medical agency, we have one on the effect of tourism, I'm facing Defra

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questions tomorrow. But will it get a vote on the shape of our

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negotiating position? Will it get to vote on the broad parameters of our

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negotiating position? The point is there will be a role for Parliament

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to have lots of debates. You have said that but my question was

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specific. Will Parliament have a role in voting for the broad

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parameters of the Government's negotiating position. We were when

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we have the great repeal bill, a huge bill that will go through

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Parliament and they will be endless debate on every single line of that

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bill. That's not about our negotiating position, that is to get

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us ready in British law for when we leave. It doesn't tell us anything

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about our negotiating position. This is a huge negotiation and the truth

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is you have to be clear about where the role for the executive lies and

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I believe the executive needs to be free. We have a cabinet system of

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government. So they will not get a vote? It is an executive privilege?

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Trigger Article 50 and the negotiations that come there after

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are an issue for the executive but there will be Parliamentary

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scrutiny. I understand that but you've said they will not get a

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vote. Will they get a vote to approve what the Brexit deal is?

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They will because we have the great repeal Bill that brings these things

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through. The great repeal Bill does not cover the terms of our

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departure. It will not tell us what our relationship is with the Single

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Market all with the European Court of Justice and it won't tell us what

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the control of our borders is or isn't. That's not what the repeal

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bill is about, that is what Brexit is about. Will they get a vote on

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the deal if and when it is done? Parliament will decide what it wants

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to debate and the terms of the motion to bring forward. Is it

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government policy to give them a vote on that or not? We have a

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debate taking place this afternoon. Debate, debate. They will be a vote

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on that. Willie Bain executive to carry out this negotiation. What

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people are missing is once we have left the union and re-established

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control here people will be able to change things in future. They will

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not be able to change the terms of our Brexit. They will because this

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will not be set in stone. They will do a deal and then rip it up? If the

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Labour Party decided they wanted a different approach to immigration in

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future and have a more liberal approach and more freedom of

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movement it would be for them to put that in the manifesto and put it to

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the British people. That is control of your laws, that is the crucial

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thing. Jack Dromey, these 170 questions, good luck, I've asked

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about ten. And had no answers. 170. If the Government were to answer

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them in any kind of detail we would be telling the European Union are

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complete negotiating position. Why would you do that? There are some

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key questions that require an answer. The people of Britain have

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spoken and we have to respect their decision. I may regret that

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personally, I may agree with Stephen that it was a disreputable and

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dishonest Leave campaign but they have spoken. What we need is a

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Brexit for working people and not a Brexit at breakneck speed driven by

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the internal divisions within the Conservative Party that betrays the

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British economy, British workers. My question was about your 170

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questions. You expect the Government to answer 170 so why don't you

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answer might one, which is if they answered all 170 they might as well

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just pass all of the negotiating papers to the European Union? Let's

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take two practical examples. First of all, it has to be an objective

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that we must secure access to the Single Market. I've got the Jaguar

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plant in my constituency, doubled in size in the last six years,

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transform the lives of thousands of workers. There is deep concern in

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the automotive sector about what happens next, and therefore in

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global companies that make long-term decisions about investment they need

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to be confident that we will be in the Single Market. I understand that

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but the whole world has access to the Single Market. Even North Korea

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has access. The question is on what terms. Do you think it is

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Parliament's job to determine for government what these terms should

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be? I think it's absolutely right that the people of Britain having

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spoken that we hold the Government to account so that the British

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national interest is then safeguarded in what will be

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difficult negotiations. Of course. On the issue of access to the Single

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Market it is key that we don't have tariffs erected in circumstances

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where in excess of half of the cars that we produce in this country are

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exported into the European Union. Let me give you another example.

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Workers' rights. I do not believe the warm words from Conservative

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ministers who say workers' rights are safe for the future and that too

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we want clear beyond any doubt and it's right that Parliament calls the

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government to account. Keir Starmer has done a great job on that. When

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you have control of your own legislation on workers' rights you

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can do what you like in future, you have not got to go cap in hand to

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the EU, you can just put it in your manifesto. On that point, if I draw

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upon my own history, I was the one who took the case of the Eastbourne

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this meant to be European Court of Justice to get TUPE extended to

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cover the public sector because your government, Mrs Thatcher's

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government, denied coverage for ten years. In future you just need to

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form a majority government and do it. Let me ask you this, Jack

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Dromey. Izzard Labour's policy, or do we know what Labour's policy is,

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to remain a member of the Single Market? -- is it Labour's policy. We

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need the negotiation about the exact mechanisms. Is it a policy that we

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should remain a member of the Single Market? We must remain a member of

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the Single Market so that we have access to the Single Market because

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that's in the best interests of British employers and workers. If we

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are a member of the Single Market we are subject to the jurisdiction of

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the European court command as the Tory MP who couldn't answer either,

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every member of the Single Market is subject to freedom of movement and

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the three movements. So essentially we are still a member of the

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European Union. We'll leave the European Union, the

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question is upon what terms. It has free movement. It has free movement.

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It is a member of the single market and has free movement, and although

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it has a separate court, the court it is subject, to its case study is

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entirely determined by the ECJ. Let's take that very difficult issue

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and it is a difficult issue. Two things collide. On the one hand the

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need of the British economy, the automotive, care sector, National

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Health Service. The revelations yesterday that the NHS in London

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would be in crisis without migrant workers but we cannot ignore the

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discontent being expressed by millions, let me finish, and

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therefore, we have to ensure that no-one is left behind in future and

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Kier was right when he said last Sunday - if you ensured in post

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industrial communities no-one was left behind, you would reduce demand

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for migrant Labour. Let me check S it the policy of Jeremy Corbyn and

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John McDonnell, that Britain remains a member of the Single Market The

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precise terms are to be negotiated. You are either a member or you are

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not. The precise terms and the title you use are to be negotiated but we

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must have tariff-free access to the Single Market or that will damage

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the British economy. You could have that with a free trade agreement.

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But you wouldn't be a member. Government have to come before

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Parliament and ultimately a decision made that we can hold the Government

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to account over, whereby our companies, like Jaguar Land Rover,

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plan for the future, confident we will have access to the Single

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Market, tariff-free. I'm still not sure if either the Government or the

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opposition thinks we should remain a member of the Single Market. We will

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try to find out. We are running out of time. It is the key distinctions,

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if the Single Market is the beating heart, it would seem to some people

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that we haven't left the EU Ultimately, I know Jaguar workers

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what they will want to know - can they continue secure in their jobs

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because their employer can export into the continent of Europe.

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Now, what should happen to EU citizens currently living

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Should they be able to stay or should that depend

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on whether the rights of British citizens living in

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It's a question that Theresa May was asked earlier this week.

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The relationship will be different in future

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because we won't be members of the Union

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but I want the agreement that we come to, to reflect the kind of

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mature, co-operative relationship that close friends and allies have.

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As part of that, I expect to be able to guarantee the legal rights of EU

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nationals already in the UK, so long as the British nationals

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living in Europe in the countries who are Member States of the EU,

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We're joined now by Tim Martin who runs the Wetherspoons pub chain

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and campaigned to leave the EU but is now calling

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for an unequivocal statement from Government guaranteeing

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Welcome to the programme. Thank you. Why are you so keen to give up the

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one key bargaining chip the UK has in these negotiations? Well, I don't

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think that's the key bargaining chip. The key bargaining chip is

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that we are a very big economy. We are the number one buyer of

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champagne in the world. We are a huge buyer of German cars. So the

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trading relationships are our major chip. But it is also a bargaining

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chip. Even the UK's most senior UK diplomat and he is a man who knows,

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he says "Withholding right for EU citizens to stay in the UK, it is

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one of the few cards we have in the negotiations." Surely he is right on

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that I do a lot of negotiating every week for 35 years, negotiating with

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suppliers and other people. I wouldn't like to adopt that

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approach. I think a better approach for us to adopt is to say the EU

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citizens here now work very hard, they have done well, they have come

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here for the best motives and they are good citizens as well as being

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good workers. So they should be allowed to stay on that basis. We

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think, as well, that British people abroad should also be allowed to

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stay but if they are not, we are still going to allow the other ones

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to stay because it is the right and moral thing to do George would

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probably disagree. Let's hear what he has to say. Everything Tim Martin

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has said, do you sign up to? Everything except the last bit as he

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predicted. Theresa May, as far as she can be clear on what she

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intends, she wants to guarantee rights here and fully expects to be

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able to. It is important it is re-Ciproicated. It is a common sense

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thinking, you have British citizens in other European countries, we want

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to do the right things, but it should be returned. We have to

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respect that the European Union gets in a hawkish position, careful about

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this, and do these things method Klein carefully. Should she be

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clearer and guarantee 1 #4u7d %, which David Davis was quoted as

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saying, to EU nationals, that their right to remain will not be put at

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threat at all? Well, I think she's got, if you look at what she said,

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she fully expects to be able to, it is what she wants to. I think she's

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keeping open the option to go through this negotiation. The

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problem with that, a secondary school, very diverse in my

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constituency on the Friday after the Thursday, there were several young

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people, sixth formers, with European Union national backgrounds, who were

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in tears. Will I, they were saying to the headmaster, be sent home? I

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have had these questions time and time again that's y Tim, I think you

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are right, the position - that's why, Tim, the position we should

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take, it is almost a multicultural stance, let's be clear about this,

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they will able it stay and we expect the rest of the European Union to

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follow that example. That's pretty much what she said. I

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wouldn't assume the UK would be a pushover. If they said we are going

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to round up - and this is what it boils up to - we are going to round

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up all the Brits living in the Dordogne. But it has been applied,

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from Spain, that all the British retirees could be at threat. But

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again, playing with people's lives as you say. Can we afford as a

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country to say - well, whatever they do in the European Union, we won't

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play that game? You are negotiating, I am negotiating this point. We all

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know that there is no circumstances, under the sun, in which we are going

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to get a truck and go around and pick up the fantastic Polish workers

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and take them back, nor are the Spanish. That's the reality. I take

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your point Theresa May is right to say this should happen but at the

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end of the day, people are going to stay in both. In a way, why are you

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surprised by this happening, why would you be surprised that EU

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citizens could be used as a bore gaining chip. You campaigned for

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leave, if you were so worried about the fate of some of your workers or

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EU nationals in general, why did you campaign to leave when they talked

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about doing this. Well, we are a dome crasscy. I campaigned - a

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democracy, I campaigned saying I think we should make all our own

:23:27.:23:31.

laws in this country but successful economies need immigration.

:23:32.:23:33.

Singapore, Australia, New Zealand, America, and Britain. I don't like

:23:34.:23:38.

the fact that unelected people in Europe are making decisions on our

:23:39.:23:41.

approximate behalf. In the future we have to decide our own future. -- on

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our behalf The people who are here now, I haven't got an issue with,

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barring a couple. Well expectations have been raised, apart from your

:23:54.:23:58.

personal opposition expectations have been raised which includes the

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state of EU nationals, particularly those who have been here a year or

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two. I have spoken a lot around the country. I have not met anyone who

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said - they have got to go home. Who is campaigning. But there might be

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some nutter somewhere. You acted in good faith. By the way I'm a proud

:24:16.:24:21.

son of immigrants, my dad came from county cork to dig roads and my

:24:22.:24:28.

mother trained as a nurse. Me too. What was disreputable about the

:24:29.:24:33.

campaign, people like Boris Johnson, talking about unless we leave,

:24:34.:24:36.

Turkey will come. We have had a rise in race crime. That's wrong, they

:24:37.:24:44.

acted disreputably. In terms of being divisive. Amber Rudd's speech,

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which was picked up and reported on and then the Home Office backtracked

:24:51.:24:55.

on the idea of a register of foreign workers, wanting to see lists of the

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number of their employees, who were EU nationals or from abroad. Was

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that wrong to even raise that issue of a register? I think it was

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overinterpreted and exaggerated. All that Amber Rudd was saying s if we

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want to do, what we do want to do, which is to try to fill the skills

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gaps more with people who live in the country, our own domestic

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workforce, we need a better understanding of the particular

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sectors and companies where they are heavily reliant on it. Why was there

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a backtrack on it? Why is it not going to be published? She was just

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saying, it was floated a as an idea, maybe in a consultation, that they

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may ask companies to provide this information to help inform

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Government thinking, nothing more of that. George raises the point of

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British skills and British works gaps what steps are you making to

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employ more British workers? We don't have to take any steps. I

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surveyed 100 most recently opened pushing they were 95% born in the UK

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it would be less in Rondon. British workers are great. They work very

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hard. They are completely one-to-one with foreign workers. So we have

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award-winning training schemes, etc. If we don't do, that we won't have a

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good business. Are you worried about what might happen to immigrant

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labour in your business if it is curtailed? I'm worried about the

:26:21.:26:25.

future of the UK. I think we need a gradually rising population, as time

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goes by, controlling our own borders but aproving numbers of immigrants

:26:31.:26:33.

for jobs we need and they've been mentioned here. Tim Martin, thank

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you. Now, word reaches us

:26:36.:26:39.

here at The Daily Politics There's apparently been a rise

:26:40.:26:41.

in sightings of creepy Yes, some people obviously think

:26:42.:26:44.

it's funny to dress up in scary clown costumes in order to jump out

:26:45.:26:48.

and terrify unsuspecting Don't worry, I'll speak to Michael

:26:49.:27:00.

Portillo tomorrow night. It is shocking, however. And obviously an

:27:01.:27:04.

unwelcome development for most people outside of SW 1.

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But for those of us unfortunate enough to spend a lot

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of time here in Westminster, clown sightings are nothing new.

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In fact, I'm told that the area in and around the Palace

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of Westminster apparently has the highest concentration of clowns

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Who has done this research? Who would have thung it? I did on the

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way in. Anyway, if you're a little creeped

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out by all this clowning around, you probably need to fix yourself

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Yes, Prime Minister's Yes. Tell us what is happening about

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Brexit votes, Article 50, Single Market, in, out, shake it all about?

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Here is an interesting thing. Without mentioning any clowns. I

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think it is a month since the last Prime Minister's Questions, more or

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less. Actually in that time, I think that we have seen MPs as they return

:29:59.:30:01.

thinking - you know what, actually we need to really start having a

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role. We need to start taking a proper look at what is going on. All

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the signals outside - inside Government are a bit like juggling

:30:13.:30:15.

with knives in the dark. Nobody knows what is going to happen.

:30:16.:30:18.

Nobody knows how this process is going to work. Inside Government

:30:19.:30:22.

there is not agreement oot all on the deal they can seek. There is not

:30:23.:30:27.

a secret plan for Brexit locked up. There never was. If If only we could

:30:28.:30:32.

find the combination. There is disagreement about the plan. You

:30:33.:30:35.

have seen this week, Parliament get the bit between its teeth. I Let's

:30:36.:30:41.

go to PMQs. Coalition government gifted to the

:30:42.:30:58.

urgent care. Bergin imposed a system of double appointments forcing

:30:59.:31:02.

patients to have unnecessary extra consultations before surgery

:31:03.:31:05.

boosting their profits at the expense of the taxpayer and patient

:31:06.:31:09.

safety. Is this acceptable and what is the Prime Minister prepared to do

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about it? We want to see in the provision of local services the best

:31:16.:31:19.

services possible for local people. The Honourable Lady talks about

:31:20.:31:23.

outsourcing services in the NHS, and I have to say to her the party that

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I put greater privatisation into the NHS was not this party but her

:31:30.:31:36.

party. Question two, closed question, Mr Michael Fabricant. 12

:31:37.:31:46.

months ago I went to see... LAUGHTER

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Thank you Mr Speaker. The West Midlands economy is in a positive

:31:55.:31:57.

position at the moment, I'm pleased to say that since 2010 nearly 2000

:31:58.:32:03.

more people are at work and 42,000 new businesses and saw the strength

:32:04.:32:06.

of the economy when I was in Birmingham last week. We are giving

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the West Midlands new powers with the devolution deal and the election

:32:10.:32:14.

of a mayor and with his business and local experience he would be a good

:32:15.:32:21.

mayor for the West Midlands. On the subject of the NHS 18 months ago my

:32:22.:32:26.

wonderful doctor go Helen Stokes Lampard suggested I have a general

:32:27.:32:32.

well man checkup and it's just as well that I did because the blood

:32:33.:32:36.

test revealed that there could have been and was a problem with my

:32:37.:32:42.

prostate, despite the fact that I was symptom-free. I was immediately

:32:43.:32:44.

referred to the Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Birmingham who were

:32:45.:32:49.

simply wonderful, and after a period of surveillance I had a

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prostatectomy in June, but hey, I'm now fine.

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CHEERING But I want to thank the whole team

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at the Queen Elizabeth including my surgeon Alan Doherty and my

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excellent prostate nurse who gave me practical advice. In the next ten

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years there will be a real shortage of specialist prostate and urology

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nurse is, as many are due for retirement. So, may I ask the Prime

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Minister, what can the Government do to avert a shortage of these

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much-needed nurses? Can I say to my honourable friend

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that the whole house is pleased to see him back in his position as his

:33:36.:33:43.

normal exuberant self in this House. He raises a very serious issue. Can

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I join him in commending not only those doctors and nurses and other

:33:49.:33:53.

health service staff who treated him for his prostate cancer, but those

:33:54.:33:56.

doctors and nurses who are at bay in and day out ensuring that as we see

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actually we are having cancer survival rates at a record high. The

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Government is putting more money into awareness of cancer problems

:34:07.:34:10.

and we will look at the training of nurses. There are 50,000 nurses in

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training and we will continue to make sure that the special incidents

:34:16.:34:18.

are available to do the work necessary in the health service. --

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specialisms. Jeremy Corbyn. I I hope the Right Honourable member

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got the same treatment as everybody gets because we want the same

:34:37.:34:40.

treatment for everybody in our society. Is not controversial, I'm

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just wishing you well. Is that OK? Sorry to start on such a

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controversial note, Mr Speaker. I do apologise. At the Conservative Party

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conference the Prime Minister said she wants Britain to be a country

:34:57.:34:59.

where it doesn't matter where you were born. But the Home Secretary

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Flagship announcement was to name and shame companies that employ

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foreign workers. Could the Prime Minister explain why where someone

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was born clearly does matter to members of her Cabinet?

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First of all, can I say to the Right Honourable gentleman,

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congratulations on winning the Labour leadership election.

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And can I welcome him back to his place in this house as his normal

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self. Can I say to him that the policy he has just described was

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never the policy that the Home Secretary announced. There was no

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naming and shaming, no published list of foreign workers, no

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published data. What we are going to consult on is whether we should

:35:57.:36:01.

bring ourselves in line with countries like the United States of

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America, which collect data in order to be able to ensure they are

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getting the right skills training for workers in their economy. Mr

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Corbyn. Mr Speaker, I most grateful to the over 3000 people -- 300,000

:36:16.:36:21.

people who voted for me to become the leader of my party.

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Which, Mr Speaker, is rather more than voted for her to become the

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leader of her party. She seems to be... She seems to be slightly

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unaware of what's going on. First, the Home Secretary. First, Mr

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Speaker, the Home Secretary briefed that companies will be named and

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shamed, the Education Secretary clarified that they too would only

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be kept by government, and yesterday No 10 said it was in consultation

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and the Home Secretary clarified the whole matter by saying it's one of

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the tools we are going to use forced of this government has no answers,

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Mr Speaker, just gimmicks and scapegoats. Yesterday we learned

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that pregnant women will be forced to hand over their passports at NHS

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hospitals, no ultrasound without photographic ID, heavily pregnant

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women sent home on icy roads to get a passport. Are these really the

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actions of a country where it doesn't matter where you were born?

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Well, I've made absolutely clear about the policy the Home Secretary

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set out. I would say to the Right Honourable gentleman, he raises

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issues around the health service. I think it is right that we should say

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that we ensure that when providing health services to people that they

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are free at the point of delivery, that they are eligible to have those

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services. But where there are people in this country who come to this

:37:57.:37:59.

country to use our health service and who should be paying for it,

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that the health service identifies those people and makes sure that it

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gets the money from them. I would have thought that would be an

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uncontroversial view. Of course, emergency care will be provided when

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necessary absolutely without those questions. But what is important is

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that we ensure that where people should be paying because they don't

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have the right to access to free care in the health service, they do.

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Jeremy Corbyn. Some of her colleagues on the smack leave aside

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promised us ?350 million extra a week for the NHS. -- the leave

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aside. She doesn't seem to have answers to the big questions facing

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Great Britain. On Monday the secretary for Brexit when questioned

:38:44.:38:47.

about the approach to the Single Market access replied, we need hard

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data about the size of the problem in terms of both money and jobs.

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They would have been much easier if he had simply asked his colleague,

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the Chancellor of the Exchequer, because he would have been able to

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tell him that the Treasury forecast is a 66 billion loss to the economy,

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7.5% of the GDP. Can the Prime Minister now confirmed that access

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to the Single Market is a red line for the government, or is it not?

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Well, the Right Honourable gentleman has asked me this question before.

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Yes! He says it is a simple question and I will give him the simple

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answer. What we are going to do is deliver on the vote of the British

:39:30.:39:32.

people to leave the European Union. What we are going to do is be

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ambitious in our negotiations to negotiate the best deal for the

:39:37.:39:39.

British people and that will include the maximum possible access to the

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European market for firms to trade with and operate within the European

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market. But I'm also clear that the vote of the British people said that

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we should control the movement of people from the EU into the UK and

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unlike the Right Honourable gentleman we believe we should

:39:56.:39:57.

deliver on what the British people want. Jeremy Corbyn. Someone once

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said that leaving the Single Market would risk a loss of investors in

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business and risk going backwards when it comes to international

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trade. That person is now the Prime Minister and that was before the

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referendum. The Japanese government, Mr Speaker, the Japanese government,

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Mr Speaker, wrote to her in September worried about a shambolic

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Brexit. Many Japanese countries are major investors in Britain such as

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Nissan in Sunderland, which has already halted its investment.

:40:34.:40:38.

140,000 people in Britain work for Japanese owned companies. They've

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made it clear that those jobs and investment depend on Single Market

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access. What reassurance can she give to workers today desperately

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worried about their future, their company, and their jobs?

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For store I would say to the Right Honourable gentleman, that the

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biggest vote of confidence that we had in Britain after referendum

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campaign was ?24 billion investment from the Japanese company taking

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over ARM but secondly in our negotiations what we are doing is he

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doesn't seem to get what the future is going to be about. The UK will be

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leaving the European Union. We're not asking ourselves what bits of

:41:22.:41:25.

membership we want to retain. We are saying, what is the right

:41:26.:41:28.

relationship for the UK to have for the maximum benefit of our economy

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and citizens this country. The member for Broxtowe said there is a

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danger that this government appeared to be turning their back on the

:41:38.:41:41.

Single Market, which was indeed a commitment in a Conservative Party

:41:42.:41:44.

manifesto. The reality is that since the Brexit vote the trade deficit is

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widening, growth forecasts being downgraded, the value of the pound

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down 16%, an alliance of the Chamber of Commerce, Confederation of

:41:56.:41:59.

British industry, British Retail Consortium and Trades Union Congress

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have all made representations to the Prime Minister demanding clarity. Is

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the Prime Minister really willing to risk a shambolic Tory Brexit just to

:42:08.:42:14.

appease the people behind her? What the Conservative Party

:42:15.:42:17.

committed to in its manifesto was to give the British people a referendum

:42:18.:42:21.

on whether to stay in the European Union. We gave the British people

:42:22.:42:25.

that vote. They have given their decision. We will be leaving the

:42:26.:42:28.

European Union and in doing that we will negotiate the right deal for

:42:29.:42:32.

the UK, which means the right deal in terms of operating within and

:42:33.:42:38.

trading with the European market. That's what matters to companies in

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the UK and that's what we are going to be a vicious about delivering.

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Jeremy Corbyn. The Right Honourable member for Rushcliffe almost always

:42:46.:42:55.

has a mot juste to help us in these cases and he said... I want to hear

:42:56.:43:00.

about the Right Honourable member for Rushcliffe. What he said was, in

:43:01.:43:05.

his own inimitable way, the reason the pound keeps zooming south is

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that absolutely nobody has the faintest idea what exactly we are

:43:09.:43:13.

going to put in place. We on these benches do respect the decision of

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the British people to leave the European Union.

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LAUGHTER But this is a government that drew

:43:20.:43:24.

up no plans for Brexit, that now has no strategy for negotiating Brexit

:43:25.:43:28.

and offers no clarity, no transparency, and no chance of

:43:29.:43:33.

scrutiny of the process for developing a strategy. The jobs and

:43:34.:43:37.

incomes of millions of our people at stake, the pound is plummeting,

:43:38.:43:41.

business is worrying and the Government has no answers. The Prime

:43:42.:43:44.

Minister says she won't give a running commentary, but isn't it

:43:45.:43:48.

time the Government stopped running away from the looming threat to jobs

:43:49.:43:52.

and businesses in this country and the living standards of millions of

:43:53.:43:56.

people? Unlike the Right Honourable

:43:57.:43:59.

gentleman I'm optimistic about the prospects of this country once we

:44:00.:44:02.

leave the European Union. I'm optimistic about the trade deals

:44:03.:44:05.

that other countries now actively are coming to us to say they want to

:44:06.:44:10.

do with the United Kingdom. And I'm optimistic about what power we will

:44:11.:44:13.

be able to ensure that our economy grows outside of the European Union.

:44:14.:44:17.

But I have to say to the Right Honourable gentleman on this issue,

:44:18.:44:20.

Labour didn't want a referendum on this issue, the Conservatives gave

:44:21.:44:24.

them a referendum, Labour didn't like the result. We are listening to

:44:25.:44:32.

the British people and delivering on that result. Now the Shadow Foreign

:44:33.:44:35.

Secretary is shouting from a sedentary position... The Shadow

:44:36.:44:37.

Foreign Secretary wants a second vote. I have to say to her, I would

:44:38.:44:42.

have thought that Labour MPs would have learned this lesson. You can

:44:43.:44:46.

ask the same question again, you still get the answer you don't want.

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CHEERING Thank you, Mr Speaker.

:44:49.:45:05.

Despite several rounds of European regional development funding the

:45:06.:45:09.

Cornish economy continues to lag around 30% below the UK average.

:45:10.:45:13.

Does the Prime Minister agree with me that Brexit provides us with the

:45:14.:45:17.

opportunity to develop our own economic programme that will be less

:45:18.:45:20.

bureaucratic, more effectively targeted and offered better value

:45:21.:45:26.

for money for the taxpayer? And will she confirmed that her government

:45:27.:45:29.

will continue to invest in the poorer regions of our country such

:45:30.:45:31.

as Cornwall once we leave? I thank my honourable friend and I

:45:32.:45:38.

can give them that assurance. What I was saying at our party conference

:45:39.:45:42.

and what I have been saying since I became Prime Minister, is we want an

:45:43.:45:45.

economy that works for everyone, that means every part of our

:45:46.:45:47.

country, including areas like Cornwall and the Isles of Scilly.

:45:48.:45:52.

We've already negotiated a devolution deal with Cornwall,

:45:53.:45:55.

signed in 2015, that will demonstrate that we recognise the

:45:56.:45:59.

challenges Cornwall faces but we're open for further discussions for

:46:00.:46:02.

Cornwall in the way we can improve their economy for the future. THE

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SPEAKER: Angus Robertson. The European Commission against

:46:07.:46:10.

racism and intolerance has found that a number of areas of concern

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over political discourse and hate speech in the UK, as well as

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violent, racial and religious attacks. Police statistics have

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shown a sharp rise in Islam phobic, anti-Semitic and zenophobic assaults

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over the past year. So, does the Prime Minister agree that all

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mainstream governments and all mainstream political parties should

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do everything that they can to oppose xenophobia and racism?

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Hear, hearment. - Hear, hear. I have been clear from the despatch box on

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a number of occasions, there is no place in our society for racism or

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hate crime. It is right that the police are investigating allegations

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of hate crime where they occur. I'm pleased to say as Home Secretary, I

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was able to improve the recording of hate crime, bringing the

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arrangements to improve that recording. We made also improving

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the requirement on police to specifically record hate crime in

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relation to faith, so that we see the anti-Islamphobia that has been

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taking place as well as anti-Semitism and other types of

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hate crime. There is no place for that in our society. We should, with

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one voice, from across this chamber, make that absolutely clear and give

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our police every support in dealing with.

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THE SPEAKER: Angus Robertson Can I remind the Prime Minister when she

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was Home Secretary, she put advertising vans on the streets

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telling foreigners to go home and at her party conference, we heard her

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party is wishing to register foreigners working in the UK. The

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crackdown and the rhetoric against foreigners by this Government has

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even led to Ukip, Ukip, saying that things have got too far.

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Can I tell the Prime Minister that across the length and breadth of

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this land, people are totally disgusted by the zenophobic language

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on display from her Government. So, will she now confirm to this House,

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will she confirm that the intention of her Government is still to go

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ahead with the registration of foreign workers, but apparently we

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shouldn't worry because it'll be kept secret by her Government?

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Can I say very gently to the right honourable gentleman, that I

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answered two questions on that earlier. And I suggest he should

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have listened to the answer I gave there.

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THE SPEAKER: Your moment has arrived. We have empowered local

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doctors to take leadership over important reconfiguration proposals

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N Shropshire, 300 doctors, surgeons and clinicians have been working on

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a vatal reconfiguration of vital A services in Shropshire and waechls

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when they make their decision later this month, it is very important for

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Government to back them and provide the capital funding required for

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this vital change to enhance patient safety.

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I thank the honourable gentleman. He is raising an important point. The

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configuration of services in his condition constituencicy and for

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others across this House is a significant issue. A provision I'm

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pleased to say we are actually seeing more people being treated in

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A today. We will, of course, look at the proposals that could. The

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point about the way this is being done, it is for local people to be

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able to have their voice heard and for decisions to be taken that

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preflect the needs in a particular local area. We all want to see A

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services, they are a vital service and I would like to pay tribute to

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all those who work in A hospitals across the country. THE SPEAKER: Meg

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Hillier. Mr Speaker, the Public Accounts Committee and controller

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and auditor general have both warned the NHS budget is not sustainable.

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When is her Government going to wake up to the reality of growing demand

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and avoid the political rhetoric and set a stonable NHS budget for this

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year and for the future? The Government took a very simple

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approach to this. We asked the NHS themselves to propose their

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five-year plan for the NHS. We asked them how much money they required.

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They said ?8 billion. We are giving them ?10 billion. More than the NHS

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said. Funding in the NHS is at record levels.

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The only place where fund money for the NHS is being cut is under a

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Labour administration in Wales. A young man with Asperger's syndrome

:50:51.:50:54.

awaits extradition to the United States facing charges of computer

:50:55.:50:58.

hacking and is then likely to kill himself. It sounds FA he is not of

:50:59.:51:02.

course, Gary McKinnon, who was saved by the Prime Minister but Larry Love

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who faces in effect a death sentence. So when the Prime Minister

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introduced a law to protect individuals, surely it would be for

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all. The honourable gentleman campaigned long and hard for Gary

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McKinnon. I took that decision, it was for the Home Secretary to decide

:51:30.:51:33.

whether there was a human rights' case for an individual not to be

:51:34.:51:36.

extradited. We subsequently changed the legal position on that. This is

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now a matter for the courts. There are accept parameters that the

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courts look at in terms of the extradition decision which is then

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passed to the Home Secretary but it is for the courts to derment human

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rights aspect of any case that comes forward much it was right, I think,

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to introduce the forum to make sure there was that challenge for cases

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here in the United Kingdom as to whether they should be held here.

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But the legal process is very clear and the Home Secretary is part of

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that legal process. THE SPEAKER: Vernon Coaker. What does the Prime

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Minister say to British Steel workers who have lost their jobs, or

:52:13.:52:18.

whose jobs are threatened, given the news that French steel is to be used

:52:19.:52:22.

for the new replacement Trident submarines? Is that what she means

:52:23.:52:30.

by being a party of the workers? Well, I have to say that the right

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honourable gentleman that we recognise the concerns of British

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Steel workers. That is why the Government has been, under my

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predecessor and is continuing, to work to ensure we can do what we can

:52:43.:52:48.

to promote and encourage and retain a steel industry here in the United

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Kingdom. A number of measures have been taken. If he was in the chamber

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earlier he will have heard my honourable friend setting those out

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in Scottish Questions. THE SPEAKER: Mr Philip Hollobone

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Doctors and nurses in Kettering hospital are treating a number of

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patients with increasingly world class treatments. But despite being

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located in an area of rising population and housing growth, due

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to an historic anomaly, the local commissioning groups are among those

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underfunded in the entire country. What can my right honourable friend

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the Prime Minister do to address the situation. As my right honourable

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friend says, we want it make sure that patients are experiencings the

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same levels of high-quality care regardless of where they live and

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work. That's why the funding for my honourable friend's local

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commissioning group is being corrected this year to more

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accurately reflect the level of need in local health need and it is an

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investment of over ?157 million going into his area. I think that

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shows the intention the Government has to ensure that we see that

:53:58.:54:00.

health service that is working for everyone across the country but of

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course we can only do that with the economy to back up that NHS.

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THE Speak Dr Alasdair McConnell. The Prime Minister will be aware that a

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soft border between the republic and Northern Ireland is vital in

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boosting the economy of Northern Ireland. Does the Prime Minister

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understand the confusion set in that many of us feel, that going forward,

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on the one hand the Government has defined the intention to tightly

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control free movement and labour but on the other hand, ensuring us the

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border between the Northern Ireland and Republic will be hope. Does the

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Prime Minister see the contradiction for many of those who are directly

:54:45.:54:47.

affected and whose jobs are affected in that? Well, I have been clear,

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the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland has been clear, the

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Taoiseach has also said that on both sides of the border we don't want to

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see a return to the borders of the past. I think it is worth reminding

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the House that actually the common travel area has been in place since

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the 1920s, so it was there well before we were both members of the

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European Union. We are working together with the Government of the

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Republic and, obviously I have had discussions on this with the First

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Minister and Deputy First Minister in Northern Ireland. We want to

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ensure, as I say, that we don't see a return to the borders of the past.

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Thank you, Mr Speaker, thanks to the Government' growth field a 32

:55:29.:55:31.

million transformation of a mill in my constituency getsnd way this

:55:32.:55:37.

week, giving a new lease of life to the largest redundant mill complex

:55:38.:55:40.

in loan ka shimplt can I thank the Prime Minister and commend the other

:55:41.:55:45.

bids in the late e round of the growth deal, as a great way to Mr A

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country that works for everyone. Can I commend my honourable friend on

:55:50.:55:53.

taking his opportunity in supporting the bids put from Pendle. He is

:55:54.:55:57.

right, the money that has been put in, has enabled this growth, like

:55:58.:56:02.

the mill, to be unlocked, as a local project. We've seen ?250 million

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committed to the Lancashire local enterprise partnership and ?2.8

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billion from the northern powerhouse through the growth fund and the

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latest round of funding is up to ?1.8 billion with good bids coming N

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we are assessing the bids, including those with Pendle and we'll be

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looked at with the seriousness that my honourable friend would expect.

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THE SPEAKER: This is the first Christmas that a lady will not see

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her husband, they have been together for ten years and married for four

:56:35.:56:37.

with two young children. It is evidence they are in a long term

:56:38.:56:44.

relationship but Hayley's Turkish hospital was refused a spouse visa

:56:45.:56:51.

because she o earns less than the Home Office target. This, I might

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say, compares with the Prime Minister's own constituency, where

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the medium salary was ?571. Almost ?30,000 a year.

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Can I Prime Minister explain why living in my constituency means they

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have a less chance of a proper family life and will she please

:57:16.:57:18.

help? I will not comment on the individual case. I know she has sent

:57:19.:57:22.

details in writing to me. I will make sure she gets a full rely from

:57:23.:57:26.

the Immigration Minister in relation to the specific case. The broader

:57:27.:57:29.

issue she raises about the income threshold for those wishing to join

:57:30.:57:35.

a partner in the UK. What the Government did, we asked an

:57:36.:57:37.

independent committee, the migration advisory committee to advise on the

:57:38.:57:41.

level that that income throws hold should be at. The migration advisory

:57:42.:57:45.

committee suggested a range of figures. We actually took the lowest

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figure in that range in taking ?18,600. They recommended that

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because it is the level at which a British family generally seeses to

:57:58.:58:03.

to be able to get benefits and we believe that people coming here are

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able to support themselves. ! My constituents were delighted to

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learn this week Gainsborough House a unique museum and art gallery based

:58:16.:58:20.

in the building where Gainsborough was born is to received money to

:58:21.:58:27.

become an attraction. Will my right honourable friend join me in

:58:28.:58:31.

congratulating the team in their success and does she agree with me n

:58:32.:58:36.

Suffolk, if we are bold and go for devolution, we can look forward to

:58:37.:58:40.

more of this investment in the years to come. Can I join my honourable

:58:41.:58:44.

friend in commending all those involved in the bid at gains are you

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House and the future that many people will enjoy fising it in the

:58:49.:58:52.

future as a result of the work that is going to be able to be done. I

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know the importance of the her stooge lottery fund. It supported a

:58:59.:59:02.

gallery in my own constituency. He is right, the point about the

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devolution deals is people coming together with that ambition for

:59:05.:59:08.

their local area, they can generate that transformative investment that

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he is now talking about and, of course, Suffolk is looking at the

:59:12.:59:15.

sort of deal that they might wish to have locally.

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THE SPEAKER: Ben Bradshaw. With Russian and Assad regime war planes

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bombing civilians in Aleppo at an unpress departmented rate, will she

:59:25.:59:27.

join France in calling for those responsible for these war crimes to

:59:28.:59:30.

be referred to the International Criminal Court? And will she

:59:31.:59:33.

reexamine, with Allies, the feasibility of a no-fly zone to

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protect the Syrian people, before it is too late?

:59:38.:59:42.

Hear, hear. Well, we are very clear that it is for the courts to decide

:59:43.:59:47.

where a war crime has been committed. It was May 2015 when we

:59:48.:59:53.

cosponsored a UN security resolution to refer those responsibility for

:59:54.:59:58.

war crimes and crimes of humanity in Syria regardless of affiliation to

:59:59.:00:03.

the national human tear court it was investigate yoked by Russia and

:00:04.:00:06.

China. On the issue of a no-fly zone, this has been addressed and

:00:07.:00:09.

people have looked at it for a number of years. The scenes we see

:00:10.:00:14.

of the indiscriminate slaughter of innocent civilians are appalling. We

:00:15.:00:17.

want to see an end to that. But there are many questions about a

:00:18.:00:21.

no-fly zone. Actually who is it there to protect? Would it lead to

:00:22.:00:24.

Assad bombing people in the expectation they would then move to

:00:25.:00:28.

that zone? How would you actually enforce a safe area there? Who would

:00:29.:00:31.

do that enforcement? There are many questions that need to be looked at

:00:32.:00:36.

in those sorts of issues. What we all know is that the only real

:00:37.:00:40.

solution for peace and stability in Syria, is a political transition,

:00:41.:00:44.

and it's time Russia accepted that, that the future of Syria is a

:00:45.:00:47.

political transition, to a stable Syria, free of Assad.

:00:48.:00:54.

THE SPEAKER: Fiona Bruce At a high school in my constituency, the most

:00:55.:00:59.

vulnerable pupils and their families are impressively supportive,

:01:00.:01:01.

pursuant to the school's moat yo of - achievement for all. Will the

:01:02.:01:04.

Prime Minister confirm that under her plans for education and in a

:01:05.:01:08.

country which works for everyone, that parents can be assured that

:01:09.:01:12.

there will be the right school place for their child, whatever their

:01:13.:01:16.

ability? Well, I thank my honourable friend

:01:17.:01:20.

and for the example that she has shown of the work taking place in

:01:21.:01:25.

her constituency. The whole aim of the Government's education policy is

:01:26.:01:28.

to increase the number of good school place so, parents can have

:01:29.:01:31.

the confidence that their child will have a good school place, and they

:01:32.:01:35.

will have the school place that is right for them.

:01:36.:01:38.

That's why we want to see universities more involved in

:01:39.:01:41.

schools, we want to see more faith schools being opened up, we want it

:01:42.:01:47.

seat independent sector helping the state sector where that is sensible

:01:48.:01:51.

and their expertise can help and yes, we do want to lift the ban,

:01:52.:01:55.

which currently say that is one type of good new school cannot be opened,

:01:56.:01:59.

it is I will Lille to open a new good school is that a selective

:02:00.:02:03.

school, we want to remove that ban so people of all opportunities get

:02:04.:02:08.

that opportunity. - it is illegal to open a new good school.

:02:09.:02:12.

The Prime Minister appears to have made a choice, and that choice is to

:02:13.:02:16.

side with the protectionist and nationalists who have taken over her

:02:17.:02:23.

party, as surely - as surely as momentum has taken over the Labour

:02:24.:02:32.

Party. She has chosen a hard Brexit that was never on anybody's ballot

:02:33.:02:38.

paper and she has chosen to turn her back on British business in the

:02:39.:02:44.

process. As a result - as a result, petrol prices and food retailers

:02:45.:02:50.

have warned of huge price rises. Shouting and jeering

:02:51.:02:53.

On supermarket shelves in the coming days. So when will she put the

:02:54.:02:59.

interests of hard-working British people ahead of extremist

:03:00.:03:02.

protectionism that absolutely nobody voted for.

:03:03.:03:06.

Hear, hear. The right honourable gentleman asks about who we are

:03:07.:03:10.

siding with. I will tell him who? We are siding with the British people

:03:11.:03:15.

who voted to leave the European Union. And it's high time the right

:03:16.:03:22.

honourable gentleman listened to the votes of the British people and

:03:23.:03:25.

accepted that that is what we are going to do.

:03:26.:03:29.

THE SPEAKER: Victoria Prentis Does the Prime Minister share my sadness

:03:30.:03:33.

that the majority of Banbury's babies cannot currently be

:03:34.:03:37.

delivered, as I was, in the Horton General Hospital and will she join

:03:38.:03:42.

with me in putting any influence and any pressure we can on the Trust to

:03:43.:03:47.

encourage them to recruit obstetricians we need to re-open our

:03:48.:03:53.

much-valued unit? Yes, I can say that I believe every

:03:54.:03:59.

effort is being made to fill the vacant obstetrics post test Horton

:04:00.:04:03.

General Hospital. I understand those mothers who are having a midwife-led

:04:04.:04:08.

delivery are still able it go to the Horton General Hospital but for

:04:09.:04:11.

others they have to go to the John Radcliffe Hospital in Oxford.

:04:12.:04:15.

Maternity services are important to people and I believe the trust is

:04:16.:04:20.

looking to ensure it is can fill the posts. What matters is a safe

:04:21.:04:24.

maternity service for mother and baby. THE SPEAKER: Angle eagle.

:04:25.:04:33.

I think many people across the House will be reassured that the

:04:34.:04:38.

Government accepted the amendment to the Opposition motion being debated

:04:39.:04:41.

later this afternoon, which guarantees that this House is able,

:04:42.:04:47.

properly, to scrutinise the plans for leaving the European Union

:04:48.:04:52.

before Article 50 is invoked. Can she tell us, will that scrutiny

:04:53.:04:55.

involve a vote? I have to say to the Right

:04:56.:05:00.

Honourable lady, that the idea that Parliament somehow wasn't going to

:05:01.:05:07.

be able to discuss, debate, question issues around...

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LAUGHTER ... Was, frankly, completely wrong.

:05:13.:05:19.

Let me give her some examples. First of all the Secretary of State for

:05:20.:05:23.

Existing the European Union has already made two statements in this

:05:24.:05:26.

House and four hours of questions followed from those. A new Select

:05:27.:05:30.

Committee has been set up, which crucially includes representatives

:05:31.:05:33.

from all parts of the United Kingdom, which will be looking at

:05:34.:05:38.

the issues and only, just over a week ago, I announced thereby a

:05:39.:05:42.

Great Repeal Bill in the next session of Parliament to repeal the

:05:43.:05:46.

act. So the Parliament will have every opportunity to debate this

:05:47.:05:51.

issue. THE SPEAKER: Will Quince. Thank you

:05:52.:05:57.

Mr Speaker, every year in the UK, 3,500 babies are still born, I

:05:58.:06:00.

commend the Government for setting the target for a 20% reduction by

:06:01.:06:05.

the end of this Parliament and a 50% reduction by 2030 but in in this

:06:06.:06:11.

babely loss awareness week, will the Prime Minister agree with me, we

:06:12.:06:15.

must provide the best-quality bereavement care for those parents

:06:16.:06:19.

who sadly lose a baby. I said to my honourable friend, he is right in

:06:20.:06:22.

this. I'm pleased to say the Health Secretary will be attending the Boo

:06:23.:06:28.

I why I Loss Awareness Week reception which will be held in

:06:29.:06:30.

Parliament today and I would encourage other members to attend as

:06:31.:06:33.

well. My honourable friend is right, the loss of a baby must be

:06:34.:06:37.

absolutely devastating and I am aware that there are people sitting

:06:38.:06:40.

in this chamber who have been through that tragedy in their lives.

:06:41.:06:45.

What what is absolutely essential is the best-possible bereavement care

:06:46.:06:51.

can be given to parents at that very, very, vulnerable and tragic

:06:52.:06:54.

moment in their lives, which is why we have been putting money - we

:06:55.:06:58.

introduced dedicated bereavement rooms at 40 hospitals and we are

:06:59.:07:02.

investing more in improving birthing facilities as well, because it is an

:07:03.:07:06.

important part but that care and counsel for people who have lost a

:07:07.:07:10.

baby is essential and I think we all accept that.

:07:11.:07:16.

Thank you, Mr Speaker. On the 2nd July, the Home Office were giving

:07:17.:07:20.

details of 178 children who are still stuck in the Calais refugee

:07:21.:07:24.

camps but had a legal right to be here in the UK with their families

:07:25.:07:28.

who could keep them safe and protected. Given the delays in

:07:29.:07:33.

acting, what responsibility does the Prime Minister think this Government

:07:34.:07:37.

has to the 18 of those children who have now gone missing?

:07:38.:07:42.

I would say to the honourable lady, far from not acting, actually the

:07:43.:07:45.

Government has been working with the French Government in relation to

:07:46.:07:48.

those who are in the camps. We have put extra resource into speeding up

:07:49.:07:55.

the process of dealing with the claims that are there, for

:07:56.:07:57.

unaccompanied children in the camps, and we have seen that process

:07:58.:08:00.

faster, it is quirk and more children coming as a result of that.

:08:01.:08:05.

This is alongside all the other work we are doing, in relation to

:08:06.:08:08.

refugees and to unaccompanied minors. Of course, crucially as

:08:09.:08:13.

well, working to ensure that we deal with the traffickers and the

:08:14.:08:17.

smugglers, who are often in those camps and who we need to make sure

:08:18.:08:22.

don't have access to children for the future. But we've speeded up the

:08:23.:08:25.

process and more children are coming here as a result of that.

:08:26.:08:31.

Thank you, Mr Speaker, tomorrow is Sendingry Breast Cancer day. I would

:08:32.:08:35.

like to ask the Prime Minister to join with me in wishing these men

:08:36.:08:39.

and women well but only one-third of NHS Trusts currently select the data

:08:40.:08:43.

in this Y would she agree with me that better data collection can

:08:44.:08:47.

inform diagnosis, treatment and the use of NHS resources across the

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piece and give better outcomes for all patients? Hear, hear. I entirely

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accept the point my honourable friend makes, that better

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information actually gives you a greater opportunity to be able to

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across these issues but can I also join with her in commending and

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wishing well all those, as she says, both men and women, who have

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suffered from breast cancer and who are - who have come through that, as

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I know she has herself. There are others in this House in that

:09:17.:09:19.

position but so many people across the country, and it is important

:09:20.:09:22.

that they do get the right care to ensure that they can come through

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that and see a bright future. Thank you, Mr speaker, last night n

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this House, a huge number of MPs presented petitions from towns right

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up and down this country. So will the Prime Minister now commit to

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overturning those mistaken 2011 arrangements and provide justice and

:09:46.:09:50.

transitional arrangements for Waspie women. The honourable lady should

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know. We made changes. We committed ?11 million for those affected. 81%

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of women will see increases. There will be no more than 12 months

:10:05.:10:08.

compared to the previous timetable. The DWP after the changes in 201 #1,

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informed people to the change in the state pension age and as we look

:10:14.:10:16.

forward, women will gain from the new pension arrangements being put

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in place. It has been a long-standing issue about women's

:10:21.:10:25.

pensions and women will see better pension arrangement in the future

:10:26.:10:27.

because of the changes that the Government has brought in.

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Mr Speaker, I gather the Prime Minister gave Chancellor Merkel a

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gift of wane write's coast-to-coast book outlining a fabulous walk

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throughout my constituency. Is the Prime Minister awhich are that it is

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not in fact an official national you trail and would she meet me with me

:10:46.:10:52.

to for my campaign to give this national treasure, national status.

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As my honourable friend knows, I enjoy walking and there are

:10:56.:10:59.

fantastic walks across the UK I have not done the coast-to-coast yet

:11:00.:11:03.

myself. Maybe - there isn't much time at the moment, but I have to

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say to him that I think he probably knows that the decision about the

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designation of the coast-to-coast is one more appropriately put to

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Natural England I'm sure he will be doing all he can to lobby natural

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England on this point. Mr Corbyn returned. There was a

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spring in his step, not as convincing as when he last crossed

:11:38.:11:41.

swords with Mrs May when he chose Grammar schools as the issue. The

:11:42.:11:45.

consensus was that he clearly won that exchange but he didn't let

:11:46.:11:49.

himself down today at all. Sometimes Mrs May was struggling to get her

:11:50.:11:57.

answers in. It was inevitably about Brexit, about how the negotiating

:11:58.:12:03.

position of this country, about the role of MPs, whether they should be

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a vote, if they shouldn't be a vote, I'm not sure we learned anything in

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the end but it was about that. We learned one thing that had nothing

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to do with Brexit, when asked about a no-fly zones in Syria, to try to

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protect the people currently being massacred, if it is not too strong a

:12:21.:12:24.

word, in the latter area at the moment, it was clear Mrs May wasn't

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a big supporter of a no-fly zone. She thought there were too many

:12:30.:12:32.

difficulties and I think that's the consensus of many people, largely

:12:33.:12:38.

because the Russians are so active in the skies as well there is a

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reluctance to do that. We may talk about that and the exchange between

:12:44.:12:48.

the two frontbenchers. John in Leeds said after watching

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PMQs I feel we have a Prime Minister and Leader of the Opposition who

:12:55.:12:57.

have very few answers. Confusing policies and I can only surmise it's

:12:58.:13:01.

the blind being challenged by the blind.

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Tamina Roger says, at last, Jeremy Corbyn shows his true colours

:13:04.:13:08.

regarding Brexit. A great pity he didn't raise his voice before the

:13:09.:13:12.

referendum or was he keeping his powder dry?

:13:13.:13:14.

Marjorie says I'm even more convinced we need a General

:13:15.:13:18.

Election. Not sure that will happen. Although I'm not a supporter of

:13:19.:13:22.

Jeremy Corbyn he is doing a stellar job of being an effective opposition

:13:23.:13:25.

leader today. If he keeps this up he will have my vote.

:13:26.:13:29.

Denis Evans says when will the Remainers stop whingeing and allow

:13:30.:13:31.

the government of the day to to get on with the process of exiting the

:13:32.:13:36.

European Union and carrying out the wishes of the Brexit masses?

:13:37.:13:40.

There is lots of shadow boxing going on, I would suggest, at the moment.

:13:41.:13:47.

The Government is being asked a lot of questions by Labour politicians,

:13:48.:13:51.

by people like us in the media, that it's either not prepared to answer

:13:52.:13:55.

or doesn't know the answer to yet, and that this is going to go on for

:13:56.:14:01.

a while. When you turn these questions on Labour, we are in the

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same position. Indeed, they don't necessarily have the answers either.

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Although it is more important that the Government has the answers, the

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clue is in the name. Indeed but there are all sorts of reasons for

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that. First of all there isn't a common position in the Cabinet and

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Theresa May is the kind of politician who genuinely wants to

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look at, perhaps some people might suggest, too much of the fine detail

:14:25.:14:28.

before making her own conclusions. There are other reasons for that

:14:29.:14:33.

too, not least because with a two-year period of negotiation so

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much of that will change over that period of time, not least the cast

:14:37.:14:41.

of characters. Don't forget it might seem a tangent but it's critically

:14:42.:14:45.

important the French and German elections during that time period

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will mean the most powerful people on the other side of the table may

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not be the people who are currently in post. Matteo Renzi in Italy could

:14:52.:15:00.

no longer be in post. If you have been to European summits or followed

:15:01.:15:03.

these things for some time, the crunch comes almost at the last

:15:04.:15:08.

minute. Of course everybody in Westminster now is desperately

:15:09.:15:11.

trying to get to the detail and desperately trying to understand

:15:12.:15:14.

what the Government is hoping to achieve and that is why we see

:15:15.:15:18.

Parliament trying to get there or in. The MPs are determined cross

:15:19.:15:23.

parties with this interesting coalition between Labour, Lib Dems

:15:24.:15:30.

and SNP coming together to put the Government on big... To get more out

:15:31.:15:35.

of Theresa May on this. But what we hear now is a phoney war. Whatever

:15:36.:15:40.

we hear from the Government about what they are trying to achieve, so

:15:41.:15:44.

much may change between now and the crunch last few months of the

:15:45.:15:48.

renegotiation. It doesn't make it pointless, far from that, it is of

:15:49.:15:51.

course relevant to try and figure out what they are trying to do but

:15:52.:15:55.

it is such a shifting picture. Isn't the danger for the Government that

:15:56.:16:00.

if you leave a vacuum somebody else fills it and it's being filled by

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Labour, it's being filled by some rebellious backbenchers, it will be

:16:06.:16:34.

filled by the media, it will be filled in the end by the Commons and

:16:35.:16:39.

maybe even by the Lords. That's the risk the Government faces. I was

:16:40.:16:41.

press secretary for four years and I know everybody wants immediate

:16:42.:16:43.

answers but the Government is right to say we can give a running

:16:44.:16:46.

commentary on this. I know that you as journalists don't like that term.

:16:47.:16:49.

This is a huge decision, the biggest decision this country has taken for

:16:50.:16:52.

half a century and we have got to get it right. I am a minister in

:16:53.:16:55.

Defra and we are doing a huge amount of a trade patterns, opportunities,

:16:56.:16:57.

risks, massive amounts of analysis are being done by the civil service

:16:58.:16:59.

but we're not ready to take final trade patterns, opportunities,

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risks, massive amounts of analysis are being done by the civil service

:17:02.:17:04.

but we're not ready to take final decisions yes. We are doing lots of

:17:05.:17:07.

work and closer to it we will have green papers and white paper

:17:08.:17:09.

discussions of this sort. There will obviously be the Great Repeal Bill,

:17:10.:17:12.

there will have to be a lead up to that anyway that's an opportunity.

:17:13.:17:14.

Negotiating position. Will the Government published a white paper

:17:15.:17:16.

giving the broad outline of its negotiating strategy? That is quite

:17:17.:17:19.

possible, yes. We are doing lots of work and closer to it we will have

:17:20.:17:21.

green papers and white paper discussions of this sort. There will

:17:22.:17:23.

obviously be the Great Repeal Bill, there will have to be a lead up to

:17:24.:17:26.

that anyway that's an the Great Repeal Bill has a problem, it looks

:17:27.:17:29.

neither to be Grix nor a repeal. That's EU law will cease into

:17:30.:17:31.

British law. Interestingly George said there will be a green paper and

:17:32.:17:34.

a white paper. This week we reported on. It writes it into British law.

:17:35.:17:37.

Interestingly George said there will be a green paper and a white paper.

:17:38.:17:40.

This week we reported on that in told in various parts of had been

:17:41.:17:42.

told in various parts of, several sources have told me would be a

:17:43.:17:45.

green had been told there would be a that has now been junked. No 10,

:17:46.:17:48.

number as something planned early in the summer that has now been junked.

:17:49.:17:51.

No 10, number, to use the terrible new name of we should, we to David

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Davis said there is no plan for a Green Tambe. David Davis said there

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is no plan for a green paper there is no there is no plan for that

:18:05.:18:14.

clearly there are areas clearly there what would you like the

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government to do? We're not asking what bits we want... What would you

:18:18.:18:21.

like the government to do? We're not asking what bits to remain. That

:18:22.:18:29.

cannot the debate we had, the crucial issue about the Single

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Market, tariff free trade, we have to be clear that, the crucial issue

:18:33.:18:35.

about the Single Market, tariff free trade, we have to be clear that

:18:36.:18:38.

something we achieve. 30 countries have tariff free trade with the EU

:18:39.:18:41.

that are not members to achieve. 30 countries have tariff free trade

:18:42.:18:46.

with the EU that are Prime Minister from Monday of this week. Monday of

:18:47.:18:50.

this week there will not be a vote, now there is going to the vote.

:18:51.:18:53.

You've moved it is yet further that there might be a green Lemmy finish.

:18:54.:18:57.

What we just heard today was a handbrake turn by the Prime Minister

:18:58.:18:59.

from Monday of this week. Monday of this week there will not be a vote,

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now there is going to be a vote. You've moved it is yet further that

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there might be a or a white paper. Precisely what we need to do. The

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Government, not on every single aspect negotiation, but on

:19:09.:19:10.

objectives needs to be clear about what objectives needs to be clear

:19:11.:19:12.

about what national interest so there can be a process of debate,

:19:13.:19:16.

consultation, and that Parliament can't of the referendum. We have to

:19:17.:19:20.

respect the verdict of the referendum so the Parliament on

:19:21.:19:22.

behalf of the people can be sure that we don't have hard Brexit that

:19:23.:19:25.

damages Britain determined to achieve in the British national

:19:26.:19:28.

interest so there can be a process of debate, consultation, and that

:19:29.:19:30.

Parliament can't overturn the verdict of the referendum. We have

:19:31.:19:32.

to respect the verdict of the referendum so the Parliament on

:19:33.:19:34.

behalf of the people can be sure that we don't have hard Brexit that

:19:35.:19:37.

I think there is that you end the primacy of which is that you end the

:19:38.:19:40.

country and then put in place a partnership with the EU which might

:19:41.:19:43.

have all sorts of corporations and joint working European law and

:19:44.:19:45.

become a sovereign country and then put in place a partnership with the

:19:46.:19:53.

EU which might have all sorts of corporations and you will not be

:19:54.:19:59.

subject Swiss make a payment? They are wrong to say it is a

:20:00.:20:02.

contribution to the EU budget because it is a contribution to the

:20:03.:20:05.

areas where you worked European law. Do the Swiss make a payment? They

:20:06.:20:08.

are wrong to say it is a contribution to the EU budget

:20:09.:20:11.

because it is a contribution to the areas where you worked jointly. We

:20:12.:20:14.

do not need to take a position we do not need to take still if there were

:20:15.:20:17.

areas where you were still working participate in schemes like that, it

:20:18.:20:22.

is wider than the EU, it is a wider Europe issue. What is the

:20:23.:20:27.

Government's position now on assessing the, something like

:20:28.:20:29.

Erasmus, if you are going to participate in schemes like that, it

:20:30.:20:32.

is wider than the EU, it is a wider Europe issue. What is the

:20:33.:20:34.

Government's position now on assessing the percentage in a

:20:35.:20:36.

company that position? The Prime Minister made it clear, she is

:20:37.:20:39.

looking to consult on this area, the objective is to make sure the

:20:40.:20:42.

government has the information it needs to be able to consider. What

:20:43.:20:47.

is the Government's position? The Prime Minister made it clear, she is

:20:48.:20:50.

looking to consult on this area, the objective is to make sure the

:20:51.:20:52.

government has the information it needs to be able to consider. What

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information make sure it has the information on companies heavily

:20:56.:20:59.

reliant on immigrant it should make sure it has the information on

:21:00.:21:02.

companies heavily reliant on and to make clear if there are areas where

:21:03.:21:06.

you need training. It's about understanding your the time the

:21:07.:21:10.

Downing Street briefing at the time impact on the local labour force of

:21:11.:21:15.

the hiring pulses of particular companies. And be clear about the

:21:16.:21:20.

proportion of the workforce that is international -- hiring policies.

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They mean migrants. Clear about the proportion of the workforce that was

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international. Is that the policy still? Yes, that is it, but this

:21:31.:21:36.

isn't a name and shame... I'm not asking for... It never was that, it

:21:37.:21:40.

was simply about the Government being able to understand about the

:21:41.:21:44.

workforce, understand sectors particularly reliant on

:21:45.:21:47.

international workers and to understand how we can deal with

:21:48.:21:50.

that, whether we can fill those skills gaps with our own people. Not

:21:51.:21:56.

that different from the policy Ed Miliband proposed in the last

:21:57.:22:01.

Parliament. That we have at the next stage is a major emphasis on

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listening to the people whose discontents led them to vote Brexit,

:22:05.:22:10.

those left behind post-industrial areas, a major programme, ladders of

:22:11.:22:14.

opportunity for them, without hesitation. That we go back down the

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path, however, of fingering people on the basis of colour of their

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skin. Nobody is saying that, Ed Miliband proposed this. Why is it

:22:25.:22:29.

wrong for the government to propose this and not wrong for Ed Miliband

:22:30.:22:33.

to propose it? What the government is proposing would not disgrace

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Ukip. This kind of proposal is dog whistle politics. Do you know what,

:22:39.:22:42.

it stinks and it is reminiscent of what happened during the referendum

:22:43.:22:47.

debate when the immigration card was played. It is just rhetoric, let's

:22:48.:22:54.

get down to the principal. This has nothing to do with that which is

:22:55.:22:58.

obviously reprehensible. The issue is that if you find companies that

:22:59.:23:03.

are hiring a large proportion of migrant labour, it sends you a

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signal that when there is still an unemployed pool of labour in this

:23:09.:23:12.

country that we not training people with right skills. So it would give

:23:13.:23:17.

you an indication of where you should emphasise your efforts on

:23:18.:23:22.

skills so that over time these jobs would be done by the unemployed

:23:23.:23:25.

people in this country. What could be wrong with that? It goes back to

:23:26.:23:30.

what Kier Starmer said on Sunday and I think he was absolutely right.

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Just answer my question, what's wrong with that? That information is

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already available, if you look at the sectoral analyses that have been

:23:39.:23:42.

done of the care sector, National Health Service sector on the one

:23:43.:23:45.

hand and areas of high unemployment where there are lots of people

:23:46.:23:49.

unemployed, that information is readily available. What we do not

:23:50.:23:53.

need, on the back of what has been a deeply divisive referendum campaign

:23:54.:23:57.

which has seen a rise in race hate in our country, we don't want our

:23:58.:24:01.

government to fuel that at the next stage. We have to leave it there.

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Laura, thanks. Now, yesterday on the Daily Politics

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we discussed the question of whether Jeremy Corbyn should have

:24:06.:24:08.

attended a rally held by the Stand Up To Racism

:24:09.:24:11.

organisation last weekend. Mr Corbyn had faced criticism

:24:12.:24:13.

from some Labour Party members who argued he shouldn't attend

:24:14.:24:15.

the rally because of what they saw as the organisation's links

:24:16.:24:18.

to the Socialist Workers Party. During the discussion,

:24:19.:24:21.

the Labour-supporting journalist James Bloodworth suggested that one

:24:22.:24:23.

of the reasons for concern was that the SWP leadership had

:24:24.:24:25.

persuaded an SWP member not to take a case of sexual

:24:26.:24:28.

harassment to the police. The Secretary of the SWP

:24:29.:24:36.

has since been in touch with the programme -

:24:37.:24:38.

we are happy to clarify that the SWP They are traditionally

:24:39.:24:41.

consumed to mitigate the ill-effects of the excessive

:24:42.:24:54.

consumption of alcohol. Everyone does it to mitigate the

:24:55.:24:56.

effects of alcohol. But are we missing out on the health

:24:57.:25:05.

benefits of this Turkish delicacy. Well - Jeremy Corbyn has appointed

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a new Shadow Minister for Public Health who is

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a big fan of Kebabs - her name is Sharon Hodgson -

:25:11.:25:13.

and here she is at the I, like a lot of the UK

:25:14.:25:16.

population, love kebabs. You know, kebabs can

:25:17.:25:19.

be quite healthy. People often think it is something

:25:20.:25:21.

that people have after a night out but, actually, you know,

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Turkish food is really, really lovely and it's far more

:25:26.:25:27.

than just a kebab as well. They are not something

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I make at home. So I would hope that I would be able

:25:31.:25:44.

to get some recipes. I'm hoping somebody I meet tonight

:25:45.:25:47.

might give me a recipe I'm joined now by Ibrahim Dogus,

:25:48.:25:49.

who runs the very same British Kebab Awards -

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and has brought some Let's call it that for the moment.

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Aren't you lucky, lunch has been provided, feeling hungry? How is it

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healthy food, because most people associate it with a treat or

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something you have late at night? Is that a euphemism? For what? Nothing!

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That is a perception built around late-night food, it is a stereotype.

:26:24.:26:28.

Kebabs are a healthy food, kidnap means cooked over an open flame,

:26:29.:26:33.

burgers, steaks, barbecue fish, they are all part of the kidnap industry.

:26:34.:26:44.

We have chicken, lamb, vegetarian. The perception that it is unhealthy

:26:45.:26:49.

is wrong. It's only a small part of the industry, we beyond that, much

:26:50.:26:51.

bigger than what has been talked about. Do you think the British

:26:52.:26:57.

kidnap awards have changed people's perceptions about this food? For the

:26:58.:27:03.

last four years we have changed peoples perceptions and raised

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standards. There are small takeaway is across the country not doing a

:27:07.:27:10.

good job for the industry so we are tackling those issues alongside

:27:11.:27:13.

making sure the public is aware of what is available for them as part

:27:14.:27:16.

of a healthy diet. How did you persuade Jeremy Corbyn to present,

:27:17.:27:21.

he is a vegetarian, to present the prize at the British Kebab Awards. I

:27:22.:27:28.

noticed that you have brought a plate of vegetarian food. We have

:27:29.:27:32.

been supported by the former Prime Minister David Cameron, current

:27:33.:27:34.

Prime Minister Theresa May and many other candidate and Shadow Cabinet

:27:35.:27:40.

members. This is about diversity, a celebration of diversity and British

:27:41.:27:43.

enterprise and supporting small businesses across the country.

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How much and how often do you eat kebabs, George? If I'm honest, the

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Turn 2 Tabarrak, after being nightclubbing as a student -- the

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doner kebab. You have to change the perception. I am the Minister for

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food. Just to clear that up! I couldn't make the dinner they have

:28:10.:28:15.

every March. Are you a fan? I am, during the referendum campaign in

:28:16.:28:19.

Birmingham on a BBC programme I did what do you take away from a

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takeaway kebab shop. Ask me everything you want to know. We

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haven't got time for this! That is a long story. Neil Kinnock was the one

:28:32.:28:36.

who got properly kebabbed. Let's put you out of your misery. It

:28:37.:28:46.

was 1981. That was the answer to Guess The Year. Brian Wishart from

:28:47.:28:55.

Glasgow. There's just time to put you out

:28:56.:28:57.

of your misery and give The News at One is starting

:28:58.:29:04.

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