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Now let's join Huw Edwards in the BBC Election Night | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
studio with a look ahead to tonight's results programme. | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
We will be here from 11:45pm and we will be carrying on through the | :00:07. | :00:13. | |
night. After all, it is the biggest test of electoral opinion across the | :00:14. | :00:18. | |
UK before the next general election. We will have results from the | :00:19. | :00:22. | |
Scottish parliament, the assemblies in Wales and Northern Ireland, more | :00:23. | :00:26. | |
than 100 local councils in England and city mayors including the London | :00:27. | :00:30. | |
mayor. Viewers in Scotland and Wales will have their own coverage and we | :00:31. | :00:33. | |
should get some early results before midnight. | :00:34. | :00:34. | |
Election coverage for viewers in Scotland and Wales | :00:35. | :00:36. | |
Standby for the results of election 2016 and another dramatic night | :00:37. | :00:57. | |
Hello and welcome to BBC Scotland's election news centre. | :00:58. | :01:45. | |
We're live here in Glasgow and in every corner of Scotland, | :01:46. | :01:48. | |
with the results of the fifth election to the Scottish parliament. | :01:49. | :01:53. | |
We'll be first with news of who's in, who's out | :01:54. | :01:56. | |
Nicola Sturgeon's hoping to lead the SNP to an historic third term | :01:57. | :02:02. | |
in power and secure her own mandate as first minister. | :02:03. | :02:07. | |
Ruth Davidson's target is to overtake Labour | :02:08. | :02:11. | |
and make the Conservatives the main opposition. | :02:12. | :02:14. | |
Will Kezia Dugdale's party really finish behind the Tories or can | :02:15. | :02:18. | |
Labour win the race for second place and avoid its worst election | :02:19. | :02:26. | |
Patrick Harvie's hoping the Greens will surge into fourth place. | :02:27. | :02:31. | |
But not if Willie Rennie's Liberal Democrats can help it - | :02:32. | :02:35. | |
they're determined to avoid slipping into fifth. | :02:36. | :02:37. | |
With an EU referendum looming, UKIP's agenda has never | :02:38. | :02:40. | |
had a higher profile - but will that help them | :02:41. | :02:43. | |
These are just some of the stories we'll be looking out for tonight. | :02:44. | :02:49. | |
And with election bulletins, throughout the night - | :02:50. | :02:52. | |
results and developments of the night. | :02:53. | :03:01. | |
As the declarations begin to roll in the length and breadth | :03:02. | :03:07. | |
of the country, we'll also be keeping an eye on social media | :03:08. | :03:09. | |
as the conversation begins to get lively there. | :03:10. | :03:12. | |
And of course it's not just here that voters | :03:13. | :03:14. | |
This has been something of a super Thursday. | :03:15. | :03:22. | |
I'll be bringing you the latest from the race to become | :03:23. | :03:25. | |
the big picture in Wales and Northern Ireland | :03:26. | :03:29. | |
and what the trends are in the English council elections. | :03:30. | :03:33. | |
his braces and his latest box of tricks - Brian. | :03:34. | :03:35. | |
Glenn, I've covered a fair few elections in my time, | :03:36. | :03:38. | |
but when you have a political anorak as well as numerous pairs | :03:39. | :03:41. | |
of galluses, they're always interesting. | :03:42. | :03:43. | |
I'll be offering analysis, insights and assessment | :03:44. | :03:46. | |
of the results as they come in, of the personalities involved | :03:47. | :03:49. | |
and the policies on offer, with this dashboard of data | :03:50. | :03:52. | |
Now, we've had one or two big votes over the last couple of years, | :03:53. | :04:00. | |
and with every election, there's innovation, | :04:01. | :04:02. | |
David Henderson's on the team tonight, with some new technology | :04:03. | :04:04. | |
Glenn, this is how the Scottish parliament has looked | :04:05. | :04:10. | |
The SNP in yellow, holding the majority of seats. | :04:11. | :04:16. | |
The other opposition parties arranged around them. | :04:17. | :04:20. | |
We'll have lots of ways of telling that story. | :04:21. | :04:32. | |
We'll have debate, analysis, opinion and maybe even the odd laugh. | :04:33. | :04:35. | |
Especially in our new Election Cafe, where Fiona Stalker | :04:36. | :04:38. | |
In the election cafe we will be bringing Scotland's media, spin | :04:39. | :04:55. | |
doctors and young voters to give their reaction. We will be keeping | :04:56. | :05:00. | |
an eye to what you are saying on social media. So join in the | :05:01. | :05:06. | |
conversation by using the hash tag SP 16. | :05:07. | :05:37. | |
The election story unfolds at counting centres across the country. | :05:38. | :05:45. | |
We live from Shetland to Dumfries and almost everywhere in between. We | :05:46. | :05:49. | |
will hear from David Miller in Edinburgh but first to Glasgow with | :05:50. | :05:55. | |
Aileen Clarke at the Emirates arena. What are you hearing so far? I am | :05:56. | :06:05. | |
down with the counters and it will be a busy night for them. There are | :06:06. | :06:07. | |
eight constituency seats decided be a busy night for them. There are | :06:08. | :06:11. | |
here tonight. Last time round the SNP took five of them in what used | :06:12. | :06:19. | |
to be the absolute Bastian of the Labour vote. Everyone is wondering | :06:20. | :06:21. | |
to be the absolute Bastian of the if they can get a clean sweep. Can | :06:22. | :06:26. | |
they take all of the seats here, that is what everybody wants to | :06:27. | :06:30. | |
know. Remember, at the last Scottish Parliament election, that was before | :06:31. | :06:39. | |
the referendum. In the referendum, from here a year ago, and night that | :06:40. | :06:47. | |
chilled labour Hearts. Remember what happened? Every person that went on | :06:48. | :06:52. | |
to that stage that night at the Westminster elections, every person | :06:53. | :06:59. | |
that went up as a winner, was SNP. A complete wipe-out for Labour. Nicola | :07:00. | :07:02. | |
Sturgeon arrived and there were great scenes of joy. She called her | :07:03. | :07:09. | |
magnificent seven. You would be forgiven for calling Labour that | :07:10. | :07:14. | |
night, the miserable seven. That is why everybody is keen to see if the | :07:15. | :07:20. | |
SNP can do the same again. The indications are good, they have been | :07:21. | :07:24. | |
out and fighting hard and they have an incredible party machine. Nicola | :07:25. | :07:27. | |
Sturgeon will be here herself in a little while. That is her seat being | :07:28. | :07:32. | |
counted over there. We will hear from her later. Patrick Harvie for | :07:33. | :07:39. | |
the Greens, he is hoping to do better and Tommy Sheridan will be | :07:40. | :07:44. | |
here standing for Solidarity, possibly for the last time if his | :07:45. | :07:49. | |
wife has anything to do with it. But it is what will happen between the | :07:50. | :07:54. | |
SNP and Labour. If you like your politics laced with a bit of | :07:55. | :07:58. | |
pleasure and a bit of pain, I think this counter will deliver for you in | :07:59. | :08:04. | |
spades. Get the crisps in, we probably won't get a declaration | :08:05. | :08:08. | |
until around three a.m.. In the meantime, David Miller is in | :08:09. | :08:13. | |
Edinburgh. Good evening from the Royal Highland Centre in the | :08:14. | :08:17. | |
capital. We are just beside the main runway at Edinburgh airport. Just | :08:18. | :08:20. | |
behind me, we have liftoff, the first ballot rocks as have arrived | :08:21. | :08:27. | |
already. We will bring you the results from all six Edinburgh | :08:28. | :08:31. | |
constituencies and the Lothian region. We will be joined by some | :08:32. | :08:34. | |
big names during the course of the evening. Scottish Labour, Kezia | :08:35. | :08:42. | |
Dugdale and Ruth Davidson for the Scottish Conservatives are fighting | :08:43. | :08:44. | |
constituencies here in the capital. Dale has been out pounding the | :08:45. | :08:51. | |
streets in Edinburgh Eastern while Ruth Davidson has been focusing her | :08:52. | :08:55. | |
efforts on Edinburgh Central. Both those candidates also top of the | :08:56. | :09:00. | |
regional list for their respective parties. In terms of potential upset | :09:01. | :09:04. | |
this evening, two constituencies we should be watching out for, | :09:05. | :09:11. | |
Edinburgh Western and Edinburgh Southern. Southern has witnessed a | :09:12. | :09:17. | |
scrap between Tony Giuliani and the charismatic Lib Dem candidate, Alex | :09:18. | :09:23. | |
Cole-Hamilton. The Lib Dems are making great play of the | :09:24. | :09:28. | |
difficulties which have engulfed the local MP, Michelle Thomson, who has | :09:29. | :09:33. | |
resigned the SNP wit amidst a great deal of controversy. There has also | :09:34. | :09:40. | |
been mutterings about SNP performance in that constituency. So | :09:41. | :09:45. | |
the Lib Dems hopes are high. But we should also keep a close eye on | :09:46. | :09:49. | |
Edinburgh Southern. Edinburgh South, the only Westminster constituency | :09:50. | :09:58. | |
still held by Scottish Labour. The SNP's is defending a Holyrood | :09:59. | :10:03. | |
majority of just 693. A very tight. In terms of the Scottish Greens. | :10:04. | :10:11. | |
Alison Johnstone has been fighting Edinburgh Central. And another name, | :10:12. | :10:19. | |
the well-known land reform campaigner, Andy Wightman. He is | :10:20. | :10:24. | |
number two on the list. The Greens have taken two list seats in Lothian | :10:25. | :10:30. | |
in the past, so there is a precedent for success for them on that kind of | :10:31. | :10:35. | |
scale here. We will find out in the hours ahead, whether they pull that | :10:36. | :10:39. | |
off. Thank you, David. We will be back with them and around the | :10:40. | :10:41. | |
country throughout the night. We're joined tonight by an all-star | :10:42. | :10:47. | |
cast list of politicians. The former First Minister and SNP | :10:48. | :10:49. | |
Leader Alex Salmond joins us, former Leader of Scottish Labour | :10:50. | :10:53. | |
Johann Lamont will be giving the Liberal Democrats | :10:54. | :10:54. | |
is here to cast his eye on proceedings, and finally | :10:55. | :11:05. | |
Lord Andrew Dunlop, Under Secretary of State for Scotland | :11:06. | :11:07. | |
representing the Conservatives. Another former leader, | :11:08. | :11:12. | |
Sir Ming Campbell of the Liberal Democrats | :11:13. | :11:14. | |
is here to cast his eye This is the first time I have been | :11:15. | :11:23. | |
in a Glasgow studio since the regional elections of 1986. Every | :11:24. | :11:28. | |
other election since, I have been a candidate in my own count. You have | :11:29. | :11:33. | |
to regard me as a new boy tonight and be kind to me as the programme | :11:34. | :11:38. | |
goes on. I cannot guarantee that! But I will ask you first of all for | :11:39. | :11:43. | |
a prediction. Is it possible be SNP could finish with an overall | :11:44. | :11:48. | |
majority? It is said to have broken the system last time, can it happen | :11:49. | :11:54. | |
twice? It is possible, but not a foregone conclusion. I am amazed | :11:55. | :11:58. | |
looking at the coverage of this election, the assumption this can be | :11:59. | :12:06. | |
done for a second time. It is a huge ask and the reason is if you gain on | :12:07. | :12:11. | |
the swings, the constituency votes, you lose on the roundabouts and the | :12:12. | :12:17. | |
list vote. If it is possible that happens, it will be an extraordinary | :12:18. | :12:21. | |
results, it is extremely difficult to do in this system. Johann Lamont, | :12:22. | :12:26. | |
you manage to avoid being the leader at the time of an election, maybe | :12:27. | :12:31. | |
that is a relief, who knows? If Alex Salmond is right and the SNP finish | :12:32. | :12:36. | |
with an overall majority, what does that mean for Labour's prospects | :12:37. | :12:41. | |
tonight? I am naturally optimistic, so when we don't have any results in | :12:42. | :12:47. | |
an exit poll, it is difficult to say. The Labour Party fought a very | :12:48. | :12:53. | |
hard campaign, I was proud of people locally and proud of the | :12:54. | :12:55. | |
conversations we had on the doorsteps. I recognise if there is | :12:56. | :13:00. | |
an overall majority, it is a significant achievement for the SNP. | :13:01. | :13:05. | |
But it feels we have not got back to the place where we are talking about | :13:06. | :13:09. | |
the things that will make a difference to people's lives. There | :13:10. | :13:13. | |
will be a lot of change and people are experiencing that, but it is not | :13:14. | :13:19. | |
where the political debate is. These are pictures coming in from the | :13:20. | :13:23. | |
count in Clydebank where people are busy counting the votes and making | :13:24. | :13:27. | |
their way towards some of the earlier results of the evening. Just | :13:28. | :13:32. | |
before I bring in Andrew Dunlop or the Conservatives, Joanna Monts, the | :13:33. | :13:37. | |
Tories targeting Labour hoping to leapfrog your party and finish in | :13:38. | :13:40. | |
second place tonight. Any predictions on that? None | :13:41. | :13:46. | |
whatsoever. The idea that your aspiration is to be the opposition, | :13:47. | :13:49. | |
you want to be a strong opposition, when between 2007 and 2011, we | :13:50. | :14:01. | |
supported this man it belies what a stronger position is? Andrew Dunlop, | :14:02. | :14:08. | |
what is your own prediction on whether or not Ruth Davidson will | :14:09. | :14:11. | |
get her wish? We are looking forward to our best results since the | :14:12. | :14:17. | |
Scottish Parliament was set up. It was down to the positive campaign | :14:18. | :14:23. | |
Ruth Davidson has run. She has a clear plan for opposition. You need | :14:24. | :14:26. | |
strong opposition to get better government. She has sent a clear and | :14:27. | :14:32. | |
compelling message and one that is also credible. I think hopefully we | :14:33. | :14:37. | |
will see that rewarded tonight. These are live pictures from | :14:38. | :14:43. | |
Lerwick, where the Liberal Democrats are defending the constituency, part | :14:44. | :14:48. | |
of the country which has been a stronghold for them for many years. | :14:49. | :14:53. | |
On the point, Andrew Dunlop, that you won Le Mans made the Tories have | :14:54. | :14:58. | |
helped it will embolden the SNP by supporting them and helping them get | :14:59. | :15:06. | |
budgets through in the 2007, 22011 Parliament, what do you say about | :15:07. | :15:11. | |
that? We will work with people who have the proposals and we will | :15:12. | :15:15. | |
cooperate. But in the next Parliament, we want to hold the feet | :15:16. | :15:19. | |
of the government, the Scottish Government to the fire, to ensure | :15:20. | :15:25. | |
that instead of campaigning for another independence referendum, | :15:26. | :15:27. | |
they concentrate on governing and what matters to people. That is a | :15:28. | :15:31. | |
they concentrate on governing and better health service, better | :15:32. | :15:31. | |
schools and creating more jobs. Pramod sub but you will also support | :15:32. | :15:41. | |
them in keeping tax law and not spending on public services. David | :15:42. | :15:51. | |
McLetchie said... Former Conservative leader. IM sure we do | :15:52. | :16:01. | |
not want to refight the 2007-2011 Parliament. At the election in 2011, | :16:02. | :16:08. | |
having seen what happened in that parliament, the people of Scotland | :16:09. | :16:13. | |
decided to return the SNP with an overall majority, which with great | :16:14. | :16:18. | |
respect to Johann Lamont, is a rather more important verdict. | :16:19. | :16:29. | |
The only two constituency seats that the Liberal Democrats have, Shetland | :16:30. | :16:33. | |
and Orkney, will you keep those? My understanding is yes. I spoke to Jim | :16:34. | :16:40. | |
Wallace, the former member of Parliament, they were confident, | :16:41. | :16:43. | |
optimistic they would hold the seats. My attitude to these matters | :16:44. | :16:47. | |
is one of optimism tinted with realism. We have got to come from | :16:48. | :16:54. | |
quite a long way back. We have had an enormously good campaign with the | :16:55. | :16:58. | |
leadership of Willie Rennie, who has been outstanding, particularly in | :16:59. | :17:01. | |
the debates, he has to an extremely well. In the last ABC debate he was | :17:02. | :17:11. | |
the first person to get not just a round of applause but a shout of | :17:12. | :17:18. | |
approval -- BBC debate. Willie Rennie is standing in your | :17:19. | :17:22. | |
former neck of the woods in Fife north-east. How do you think he will | :17:23. | :17:24. | |
do there? He will do very well. fortnight ago. The 22-1 against the | :17:25. | :17:51. | |
Lib Dems, they are improving. Let us bring in Professor Nicola | :17:52. | :17:55. | |
McEwan, Fester of politics at the University of bed and rap, she will | :17:56. | :17:59. | |
be casting her expert by overdevelopment is -- Professor of | :18:00. | :18:12. | |
politics. The constituency results will be | :18:13. | :18:17. | |
key. Last time round, the SNP got 45% of the constituencies. Opinion | :18:18. | :18:23. | |
polls suggest that they may get a little more than that. We may know | :18:24. | :18:29. | |
before we even get the list vote if there will be an overall majority. | :18:30. | :18:32. | |
For the other parties, it will be the regional list vote which will be | :18:33. | :18:37. | |
key to determining who comes in second place. We will not know that | :18:38. | :18:42. | |
until much later on. Safety say that this has been the most competitive | :18:43. | :18:45. | |
list contest of any Holyrood election. Yes, particularly for the | :18:46. | :18:53. | |
Labour Party. In particular, in the early years of devolution they used | :18:54. | :18:57. | |
to do disproportionately well in the constituency contests, they did not | :18:58. | :19:02. | |
have to rely on the worst vote. It is very much changed days now. -- | :19:03. | :19:08. | |
the list vote. These pictures are coming in from | :19:09. | :19:13. | |
Paisley, the count me. You can see the vote stacking up across that | :19:14. | :19:20. | |
part of Scotland. In terms of time the vote stacking up across that | :19:21. | :19:24. | |
is, hard to say when we would get the first results. Some point | :19:25. | :19:29. | |
between one o'clock and two o'clock, but we might be able to bring your | :19:30. | :19:33. | |
results between 12 o'clock and one o'clock. | :19:34. | :19:38. | |
Let us develop our coverage of the election and go to David Henderson. | :19:39. | :19:43. | |
He is standing by with his very fancy graphics. | :19:44. | :19:48. | |
What do you have foreigners? This promises to be a gripping contest. | :19:49. | :19:54. | |
Throughout the night, we will be telling the story from right in the | :19:55. | :19:58. | |
heart of the BBC's headquarters in Pacific key. For the last five | :19:59. | :20:04. | |
years, this has the state of the nation. This was his Scotland's | :20:05. | :20:13. | |
electoral map with after the last election. Blue for the Conservatives | :20:14. | :20:21. | |
in the south, red for Labour in Central Scotland, orange for the Lib | :20:22. | :20:26. | |
Dems in the Northern Isles, the rest of the country awash of yellow, with | :20:27. | :20:35. | |
the SNP dominating the scene. Let's look at that map with the same | :20:36. | :20:42. | |
results in a slightly different way. This is our hex map. This is all of | :20:43. | :20:49. | |
Scotland's constituencies, but they are all this inside. I'll be SNP | :20:50. | :20:55. | |
constituencies colour it yellow again? The people of Scotland also | :20:56. | :21:00. | |
choose 56 MSPs with the regional vote. Here is the breakdown of seats | :21:01. | :21:06. | |
from the last election, region by region. You can see the Greens | :21:07. | :21:12. | |
picked up seats, and Labour did better than they managed in the | :21:13. | :21:18. | |
constituency vote. Those two sets of results, the regionals and the | :21:19. | :21:22. | |
constituencies, let's see how they convert into seats at Holyrood. Add | :21:23. | :21:27. | |
them together, and you are the results from 2011. The SNP on 69, | :21:28. | :21:36. | |
Labour on 37, Tories on 15, Lib Dems on five, there were two greens and | :21:37. | :21:42. | |
one independent. The SNP with their noses well in France, and passed | :21:43. | :21:48. | |
that winning line of 65 seats, which gives a majority in parliament. But | :21:49. | :21:53. | |
those results are now just history. At this moment, no party has any | :21:54. | :21:58. | |
seats. The map is empty and waiting to be filled. You, the voters, write | :21:59. | :22:04. | |
the next chapter of Scotland's political history tonight. We will | :22:05. | :22:10. | |
be telling that story as it happens. No election night would be complete | :22:11. | :22:13. | |
without Brian and his latest toy. Top is through this. Thank you. This | :22:14. | :22:27. | |
is the dashboard. Rather than speed, mileage and fuel consumption, this | :22:28. | :22:31. | |
massive screen will gauge all the detail of the results as they come | :22:32. | :22:34. | |
in. I will try to steer you through is significant, what the important | :22:35. | :22:38. | |
results are, they are all important, but the ones that might determine | :22:39. | :22:45. | |
the character of the night. Here the chamber in 2011. 69 to the SNP. That | :22:46. | :22:51. | |
is the result in 2011, since then there have been various changes, a | :22:52. | :22:59. | |
couple of folk moving away from the SNP in protest over Nato. That is | :23:00. | :23:04. | |
the result. That is that outcome over which they are fighting | :23:05. | :23:10. | |
tonight. We will keep an eye on who has won individual constituencies, | :23:11. | :23:15. | |
we will have information about the voting share, that will tell us how | :23:16. | :23:18. | |
the night might pan out right in the very early hours of the morning. We | :23:19. | :23:22. | |
will tell you how that has changed since the last election. The | :23:23. | :23:27. | |
additional members will be absolutely key to the final make-up | :23:28. | :23:35. | |
of Holyrood. As we move along the dashboard, here is the electoral map | :23:36. | :23:40. | |
of Scotland, coloured in with party colours, the SNP taking most of the | :23:41. | :23:45. | |
constituencies, Labour red, the Conservatives and the two northern | :23:46. | :23:52. | |
areas of Orkney and Shetland for the Liberal Democrats. Here we have the | :23:53. | :24:00. | |
map in equal size, so you can see the balance of the results. Tonnes | :24:01. | :24:06. | |
eight -- tonnes of data at my fingertips. | :24:07. | :24:09. | |
Let us cross to Jackie Bird. Counting is going on at centres the | :24:10. | :24:14. | |
length and breadth of the country. There are 4 million registered | :24:15. | :24:18. | |
voters. We can see the boxes being emptied at Glasgow's Emirates | :24:19. | :24:25. | |
Stadium. Here are boxes arriving in Motherwell. Heading north, we have | :24:26. | :24:29. | |
pictures from what is happening in Kirkwall tonight. That will be | :24:30. | :24:34. | |
popping up soon. Former Labour leader Iain Gray at the Haddington | :24:35. | :24:41. | |
count. Not looking to confidence, perhaps I will tell you why in a | :24:42. | :24:46. | |
moment. We round when can we expect that first result? The best guess is | :24:47. | :24:54. | |
in the Rutherglen constituency. They that first result? The best guess is | :24:55. | :24:58. | |
were first to declare in 2011. The team have told us that they are | :24:59. | :25:02. | |
hoping to beat that this time, it could be as early as midnight. Since | :25:03. | :25:06. | |
elections for the current Scottish Parliament began, that seat has gone | :25:07. | :25:13. | |
into labour. James Kelly will sit. This is a real bellwether seat. It | :25:14. | :25:16. | |
could set the tone for the night for Labour if they do not retain that | :25:17. | :25:21. | |
seat. Elsewhere tonight, there are few seats to watch. Glasgow Pollok, | :25:22. | :25:29. | |
Johann Lamont is defending a majority with 623 votes. There has | :25:30. | :25:38. | |
been a battle royal ear. She is facing stiff competition from the | :25:39. | :25:49. | |
SNP's Humza Yousaf. Iain Gray won by just 151 votes in 2011, you can see | :25:50. | :25:55. | |
why it will be near waiting for him. Willie Rennie is hoping to take his | :25:56. | :25:59. | |
seat back for his party. They lost it last time round. The | :26:00. | :26:04. | |
Conservatives only hold three constituency seats, the one with the | :26:05. | :26:11. | |
smallest majority, of about 862 votes, is Galilee and Dumfries. -- | :26:12. | :26:20. | |
Galloway and Dumfries. Let us take the cat Twitter. The | :26:21. | :26:26. | |
race for second place seems to be dominating already. The Sun | :26:27. | :26:30. | |
newspaper as saying the Conservatives will come second. Time | :26:31. | :26:43. | |
will tell. Nicola Sturgeon sent her first tweet of the night. Patrick | :26:44. | :26:52. | |
Harvie's thinks that his party's candidates and volunteers have | :26:53. | :26:55. | |
worked very hard and he thanked them for everything they have done to | :26:56. | :27:03. | |
support him. We are monitoring the hash tag #sp16 tonight. | :27:04. | :27:15. | |
Hugh Williams, at the Emirates Marina, confirming that other Labour | :27:16. | :27:18. | |
sources are saying that the party does not expect to win any Glasgow | :27:19. | :27:26. | |
constituency seats. Johann Lamont, that would mean you losing Glasgow | :27:27. | :27:32. | |
Pollok. That might be what we would expect. We fought very hard. We | :27:33. | :27:36. | |
continue to make this political argument. We recognise what the | :27:37. | :27:41. | |
polls are saying. The difference from 2011 is that we did not see | :27:42. | :27:45. | |
what was happening in 2011, that was a huge political failure. I managed | :27:46. | :27:51. | |
to hold onto me seat at that time, and I was immensely proud of team. I | :27:52. | :27:56. | |
remain as proud now and is committed to the same politics, but there is | :27:57. | :28:08. | |
not any point in pretending. On that broader point, that Labour will lose | :28:09. | :28:09. | |
the seats it has held that the last broader point, that Labour will lose | :28:10. | :28:16. | |
election in Glasgow, is that your expectation? It is my recognition of | :28:17. | :28:28. | |
where Paul stickers, -- the polls takers. We lost Glasgow in 2011, | :28:29. | :28:38. | |
recovered in 2012, then saw in 2015 how bad things were. The thing is | :28:39. | :28:44. | |
the extent to which we have begun to move on, people have rebuilt | :28:45. | :28:50. | |
confidence, we need to wait for the results. Alex Salmond, brief word on | :28:51. | :28:54. | |
that if it turns out to be true. It would be an extraordinary result if | :28:55. | :28:59. | |
it were true. We are taking nothing for granted. We have not even had | :29:00. | :29:03. | |
the first result. I was in Glasgow campaigning in the seats on Monday. | :29:04. | :29:10. | |
Clearly the SNP team are well organised and induce gastric, have | :29:11. | :29:13. | |
been campaigning strongly. But it is too early. -- in CZ Astec. | :29:14. | :29:24. | |
We will be crossing over to our collection cafe. | :29:25. | :29:27. | |
We will be giving you an alternative to the politicians. We are bringing | :29:28. | :29:38. | |
together journalists, bloggers, spin doctors, to react and cast an eye | :29:39. | :29:43. | |
over the campaign so far. What are you up to tonight? | :29:44. | :29:50. | |
We will be trying to keep busy. I am heading out are in some of the | :29:51. | :29:54. | |
counts are in Glasgow later. We have a lot of reporters out across | :29:55. | :29:59. | |
Scotland. Everything happening on TV, radio, social media, that will | :30:00. | :30:03. | |
come back into life page that we have on the website. And we have it | :30:04. | :30:09. | |
covered on social media, Twitter, snap chat. We just need some results | :30:10. | :30:15. | |
to start coming in. We're also working very closely with | :30:16. | :30:21. | |
our at BBC Radio Scotland. We will be asking how much of this campaign | :30:22. | :30:26. | |
was about personality politics. Who were the winners and losers on | :30:27. | :30:32. | |
social media? What was it with the increasingly bizarre photocalls with | :30:33. | :30:36. | |
party leaders? Are people as engaged as they were during the independence | :30:37. | :30:42. | |
referendum? This is about opinions. These people have and bucketloads. | :30:43. | :30:46. | |
We will have the generation 2016 with us overnight. You were very | :30:47. | :30:51. | |
engaged in the independence referendum, you still up for it? | :30:52. | :30:56. | |
Yes, we are very much up for it. It has been a very different campaign | :30:57. | :31:00. | |
to the independence referendum. People were talking about big ideas, | :31:01. | :31:06. | |
but this has been more about domestic politics and day-to-day | :31:07. | :31:10. | |
issues. When I have been campaigning for the Green Party people have been | :31:11. | :31:13. | |
really interested in the issues. The final thing is that you have | :31:14. | :31:18. | |
16-year-olds and 17-year-old sporting. Uncharted waters, who | :31:19. | :31:19. | |
knows what will happen. We will be sporting. Uncharted waters, who | :31:20. | :31:25. | |
hearing from generation 2016 on it, they probably have more stamina than | :31:26. | :31:30. | |
we have. Also keeping a close eye on social media, so if you want to join | :31:31. | :31:33. | |
in the conversation, it is #sp16. We are here live for the next ten | :31:34. | :31:46. | |
hours by which time we would hope to have at least most of the results. | :31:47. | :31:51. | |
Five years ago in 2011, Rutherglen. The first declaration. What are the | :31:52. | :32:01. | |
timing is looking like Reevel Alderson? This is difficult to say, | :32:02. | :32:08. | |
south Lanarkshire used to have a reputation for declaring very | :32:09. | :32:14. | |
quickly. In all elections, Scottish Parliament and general election. The | :32:15. | :32:20. | |
returning officer has come in. He is determined to make sure the results | :32:21. | :32:26. | |
are accurate over any speed. However, there are four | :32:27. | :32:30. | |
constituencies being counted here in East Kilbride. One of them is | :32:31. | :32:33. | |
Rutherglen, as you say. The indications say they might declare | :32:34. | :32:42. | |
roundabout midnight. The reason for that is, they are being counted and | :32:43. | :32:44. | |
they have two teams of counting that is, they are being counted and | :32:45. | :32:52. | |
Rutherglen boxes. The other is Clydesdale being counted, Avril | :32:53. | :32:57. | |
area. They will be coming from a long way. They will get the | :32:58. | :33:01. | |
Rutherglen count out of the way and then they can concentrate on | :33:02. | :33:08. | |
Clydesdale. They are expecting the Rutherglen counts will be declared | :33:09. | :33:10. | |
early. Will it be the first in Scotland? They say if they are in | :33:11. | :33:18. | |
the top five, they will be pleased. The keywords were the possibility of | :33:19. | :33:24. | |
a result around midnight. That would be earlier than I was indicating. We | :33:25. | :33:29. | |
will be back there for any developments. Last time around, some | :33:30. | :33:36. | |
people kept us waiting. We have to wait until 5pm the following day in | :33:37. | :33:43. | |
Fife. Ken McDonald is there. I suppose in preparation you have got | :33:44. | :33:50. | |
your sleeping bag? We are in the Michael would sport centre, so if it | :33:51. | :33:55. | |
does go on that long, we can go for a swim. We have three constituency | :33:56. | :34:00. | |
seats being counted, North East Fife, which is the rough equivalent | :34:01. | :34:06. | |
which does waiting. It will end rot first and then beyond that, | :34:07. | :34:13. | |
Kirkcaldy. Willie Rennie has put up a good game in trying to win Fife | :34:14. | :34:19. | |
north-east. Beyond that, we see another seven MSPs enthroned here, | :34:20. | :34:24. | |
because this is a regional counting centre and it will collate all the | :34:25. | :34:30. | |
results from these three constituencies and beyond, all the | :34:31. | :34:42. | |
way up. It is an enormous area. The uncharitable said it is the better | :34:43. | :34:48. | |
left over when they drew up all the other election regions. But it will | :34:49. | :34:53. | |
give you seven more MSPs. So tonight we get ten MSPs enthroned here. | :34:54. | :34:58. | |
give you seven more MSPs. So tonight Enthroned, indeed. Thanks very much | :34:59. | :35:04. | |
for the update. We look cover, not just the Scottish Parliament | :35:05. | :35:06. | |
elections but we'll keep an eye on developments in England, Wales and | :35:07. | :35:13. | |
Northern Ireland. Many local elections in England. Andy Burnham, | :35:14. | :35:16. | |
looking forward to the elections of the future. His spokesman saying he | :35:17. | :35:21. | |
is considering running as the mayor for Manchester. Right now, let's | :35:22. | :35:29. | |
stick with Holyrood, another one of the parts of Scotland with a habit | :35:30. | :35:32. | |
of keeping us waiting, up in the North in the Highlands. Craig | :35:33. | :35:38. | |
Anderson is in Dingwall, what is the story there? There will be no | :35:39. | :35:43. | |
change, because it will be a long night for everybody here at a | :35:44. | :35:48. | |
football academy in Dingwall, where the count is underway for three | :35:49. | :35:52. | |
Highlands constituencies, stretching from the Pentland Firth in the north | :35:53. | :35:56. | |
to the south of the Cairngorms and all the way across the West to the | :35:57. | :36:01. | |
Isle of Skye and the small Isles. There is a matter of the tally for | :36:02. | :36:06. | |
all eight of the Highlands and Islands constituency and that takes | :36:07. | :36:10. | |
in everything from Shetland in the north, down to the Argyll islands in | :36:11. | :36:14. | |
the West and then Murray in the east. It is a long way for ballot | :36:15. | :36:18. | |
boxes to travel to all these different counting centres. We are | :36:19. | :36:24. | |
not expect in the regional list to be declared until somewhere like | :36:25. | :36:29. | |
seven o'clock in the morning. So plenty of Coffey on hand here to | :36:30. | :36:33. | |
keep us awake until then. After all, it is the largest regional electoral | :36:34. | :36:40. | |
constituency in the country. It takes up something like half of | :36:41. | :36:43. | |
Scotland's total land mass. So we takes up something like half of | :36:44. | :36:46. | |
can let them off. There will be some new faces leaving the Highlands to | :36:47. | :36:52. | |
go to Holyrood, whatever happens tonight. Two of the three MSPs that | :36:53. | :36:58. | |
were elected on the North Highland Maignan, from Caithness down to | :36:59. | :37:05. | |
Inverness, two of those MSPs for the SNP resigned their seeds following | :37:06. | :37:12. | |
the last parliament. So even if the SNP is expected to retain those | :37:13. | :37:16. | |
seats, two of them will be debutants going to Holyrood for the very first | :37:17. | :37:22. | |
time. The two Tories are elected last time on the regional list, they | :37:23. | :37:26. | |
both retired from Holyrood as well. So if the Tories and Conservatives | :37:27. | :37:31. | |
retain those lists sees this in the Highlands and Islands there would be | :37:32. | :37:38. | |
two two conservatives as well. For the Liberal Democrats, Jamie Stone, | :37:39. | :37:43. | |
who resigned from Parliament before the last election, he has had the | :37:44. | :37:48. | |
last few years out, but has decided to throw his hat in the ring again. | :37:49. | :37:53. | |
So if he is elected for the Liberal Democrats, possibly on a personal | :37:54. | :37:58. | |
vote, as well as a party vote, he will be a new, old face joining | :37:59. | :38:04. | |
them. Let's not forget David Cockburn, sometimes controversial | :38:05. | :38:09. | |
MEP. He has pitched his hat into the ring to be elected on the regional | :38:10. | :38:13. | |
list for the Highlands and Islands. He is the only elected Ukip | :38:14. | :38:18. | |
parliamentarian in Scotland at the moment. He reckons Ukip have a good | :38:19. | :38:22. | |
chance of picking up a couple of regional seats on the list in the | :38:23. | :38:28. | |
selection and let's see if he can be one of the first to get elected to | :38:29. | :38:35. | |
the Scottish Parliament for Ukip. We will have to wait something like | :38:36. | :38:39. | |
eight hours until we know that. It is a marathon, not a sprint, Pace | :38:40. | :38:45. | |
yourself. At the other end of the country, we are hearing from | :38:46. | :38:49. | |
colleagues at ITV border, suggesting Labour's Elaine Murray will lose | :38:50. | :38:54. | |
Dumfriesshire and you might be surprised to learn that is Labour's | :38:55. | :38:58. | |
safest seat at the moment in terms of the number of votes Elaine Murray | :38:59. | :39:03. | |
one by last time around. The suggestion is there could be a close | :39:04. | :39:08. | |
tie between the SNP's Joan McAlpine under the Conservative candidate, | :39:09. | :39:15. | |
Oliver Mundell. Let's go further south. Plenty of elections taking | :39:16. | :39:20. | |
place across the UK, the Northern Ireland assembly elections will be | :39:21. | :39:23. | |
counted tomorrow. But overnight counting is taking place in a number | :39:24. | :39:27. | |
of English local authorities and for the Welsh assembly. We will hear | :39:28. | :39:29. | |
from James Williams in Cardiff, but the Welsh assembly. We will hear | :39:30. | :39:34. | |
first to Exeter. Martin is there. A the Welsh assembly. We will hear | :39:35. | :39:38. | |
big electoral test for Jeremy Corbyn? Absolutely. Only three | :39:39. | :39:45. | |
elections in the south-west, but they are the only three areas where | :39:46. | :39:48. | |
Labour has strength in the south-west. This one in accident is | :39:49. | :39:54. | |
the real citadel, the one of only three where Labour has an absolute | :39:55. | :39:59. | |
majority. It is the former seat of Ben Bradshaw. In the general | :40:00. | :40:01. | |
election he increased his vote by 16%. This place under Ben Bradshaw, | :40:02. | :40:08. | |
is a monument to new Labour. Gained the seat in the landslide of 1997. I | :40:09. | :40:12. | |
will give you an idea of the scale the seat in the landslide of 1997. I | :40:13. | :40:17. | |
of achievement, throughout the rest of the 20th century except for four | :40:18. | :40:22. | |
years, this place had a Conservative MP. But Ben Bradshaw has different | :40:23. | :40:29. | |
views on the way of the direction the Labour Party should be heading | :40:30. | :40:33. | |
than his leader, Jeremy Corbyn. Thanks very much for that update. | :40:34. | :40:41. | |
Let's cross to James Williams in Cardiff. What is the emerging | :40:42. | :40:45. | |
picture for the Welsh assembly, James? | :40:46. | :40:56. | |
Not sure he can hear us. Might have to come back to James Williams in a | :40:57. | :41:04. | |
few moments, to catch up on the Welsh assembly election contest and | :41:05. | :41:10. | |
ring you up today with that. It's been quite a five years at Holyrood. | :41:11. | :41:14. | |
Let's remind ourselves of the current state of play. | :41:15. | :41:22. | |
This is the debating chamber of the Scottish Parliament, the 129 members | :41:23. | :41:29. | |
elected to Mike will be sworn in next week. 73 will represent | :41:30. | :41:32. | |
constituencies down to Berwickshire next week. 73 will represent | :41:33. | :41:39. | |
in the Borders. The number was chosen to match the number of | :41:40. | :41:42. | |
Westminster constituencies when the pollen was created in 1999. This | :41:43. | :41:49. | |
Orkney and Shetland became two separate seats. There are 56 MSPs | :41:50. | :41:53. | |
elected by proportional representation. There are seven in | :41:54. | :41:58. | |
age of eight regions across Scotland. The Highlands and Islands, | :41:59. | :42:03. | |
North East Scotland, Mid Scotland and Fife, Central Scotland, Glasgow, | :42:04. | :42:07. | |
Lothian, West Scotland and South Scotland. So you have eight MSPs in | :42:08. | :42:14. | |
total. The journalists who watch proceedings from this press gallery | :42:15. | :42:17. | |
know that over the last five years, there have been a number of changes | :42:18. | :42:23. | |
caused by death, defections and even a court case. At the time of this | :42:24. | :42:30. | |
solution, were just 128 MSPs. Margo MacDonald as an was literally | :42:31. | :42:34. | |
irreplaceable. But our starting point tonight is the results of the | :42:35. | :42:40. | |
2011 election. The SNP became the first party to win an overall | :42:41. | :42:45. | |
majority with 69 seats. Labour were on 37 and the Conservatives were | :42:46. | :42:50. | |
third with 15. The Liberal Democrats took five seats and there were two | :42:51. | :42:56. | |
Greens and Margo was the sole independent. All games tonight will | :42:57. | :42:59. | |
be calculated from this baseline. Only one of the leaders who fought | :43:00. | :43:07. | |
that election is still standing at the head of the party this time | :43:08. | :43:08. | |
around. See if you can answer | :43:09. | :43:13. | |
that quiz question. And let's take a look | :43:14. | :43:16. | |
at the challenges He's a Member of the | :43:17. | :43:18. | |
European parliament. He will be hoping Ukip's high | :43:19. | :43:29. | |
profile in the EU referendum campaign might make this a | :43:30. | :43:31. | |
breakthrough moment for them. There's the Scottish | :43:32. | :43:37. | |
Greens' Patrick Harvie. One of two Greens elected | :43:38. | :43:40. | |
to the last parliament. Now during the second Parliament, | :43:41. | :43:43. | |
back in 2003, the party Can they improve on the two seats | :43:44. | :43:54. | |
last time. As for Willie Rennie, the Lib Dems were part of the Coalition | :43:55. | :43:57. | |
Government, but they have been punished by voters in recent times. | :43:58. | :44:02. | |
It's the country beginning to forgive them for going into | :44:03. | :44:06. | |
coalition with Conservatives at Westminster, or is it too early for | :44:07. | :44:11. | |
that? Speaking of the Tories, Ruth Davidson's party is trying to | :44:12. | :44:15. | |
capitalise on her personal appeal to voters during this campaign, and she | :44:16. | :44:20. | |
has made no secret of her aim. She wants to lead the largest opposition | :44:21. | :44:25. | |
party at Holyrood. Can they beat Labour into second place tonight? | :44:26. | :44:29. | |
Kezia Dugdale has only been at the helm for nine months. The big | :44:30. | :44:35. | |
question for her is this. Can she kick-start Labour's recovery after | :44:36. | :44:39. | |
it was all but wiped out in the general election and left just one | :44:40. | :44:45. | |
MP in Scotland. Or, will the party's decline continue. As for Nicola | :44:46. | :44:49. | |
Sturgeon, this is her first chance to get her own mandate as First | :44:50. | :44:55. | |
Minister. She took on the top job just after the referendum when Alex | :44:56. | :44:58. | |
Salmond stood down. Since then she has led her party to a thumping | :44:59. | :45:02. | |
victory in last year's general election. The SNP winning 56 out of | :45:03. | :45:09. | |
59 seats. Those other potential winners and losers tonight. The | :45:10. | :45:14. | |
answer to my quiz question, the only leader who was in charge at the last | :45:15. | :45:19. | |
election is the man in green, Patrick Harvie. Let's get more on | :45:20. | :45:27. | |
some of the political battle grounds that the leaders' troops have been | :45:28. | :45:28. | |
fighting for, with Brian Taylor. This is an unusual election in many. | :45:29. | :45:44. | |
I cannot remember an election where one of the major parties, the | :45:45. | :45:48. | |
Conservatives, said her ambition was to come second. There has not been a | :45:49. | :45:53. | |
lot of talk of target seats, many of the parties just want to hang on to | :45:54. | :45:57. | |
what they have. The battle ground perhaps coming on the list. But | :45:58. | :46:05. | |
there are some very key contests in the constituencies. Here is a double | :46:06. | :46:09. | |
bill from Glasgow Anniesland. Bill Butler was the previous MSP. He lost | :46:10. | :46:19. | |
out to Bill Kidd in 2011. Look at the majority, relatively tight, 855. | :46:20. | :46:25. | |
I beg your pardon, that is the wrong result. The size of the majority was | :46:26. | :46:32. | |
seven on that particular occasion. Let us move on to East Lothian... | :46:33. | :46:41. | |
There seems to be a problem with this. | :46:42. | :46:46. | |
We will come back to Brian Taylor for more on the results last time in | :46:47. | :46:51. | |
We will come back to Brian Taylor the parties are targeting this time | :46:52. | :47:02. | |
around. Let's pick up with political once again. This lecture comes a | :47:03. | :47:09. | |
year after the extraordinary result we saw in the UK general election | :47:10. | :47:12. | |
for Scotland. At that point almost all Liberal Democrat 's, all but | :47:13. | :47:18. | |
one, were swept away on a rising tide. Anything that suggests to you | :47:19. | :47:23. | |
that things are different this time around? It is one year on, and many | :47:24. | :47:33. | |
of the things that Nick Clegg and the coalition were able to prevent | :47:34. | :47:41. | |
his begun to happen under the Conservatives. History will be much | :47:42. | :47:43. | |
kinder to Nick Clegg. He will be Conservatives. History will be much | :47:44. | :47:51. | |
vindicated over welfare, standing in the way of the so-called snooper's | :47:52. | :47:57. | |
charter. A lot will depend on how well we do this evening to show that | :47:58. | :48:01. | |
we are on the way back. It will not be a matter of a few months are few | :48:02. | :48:06. | |
years, it will probably be tenuous before we get back to where we were | :48:07. | :48:10. | |
before. But we are well used to the long march -- ten years. We will go | :48:11. | :48:18. | |
back to what we are good at, localism, community politics. We | :48:19. | :48:23. | |
will stand a very good chance of restoring ourselves to where we were | :48:24. | :48:29. | |
before. Anecdotal lead during the campaign, Andrew Dunlop, the | :48:30. | :48:32. | |
Conservatives said that in areas where they have traditionally got | :48:33. | :48:35. | |
support, in areas where they have first past the post eats, -- seat | :48:36. | :48:46. | |
is, it was holding up well. I will not speculate on the constituency | :48:47. | :48:54. | |
seats. That is part of the fun. Yes, I will resist the temptation. We | :48:55. | :48:58. | |
have been polling very well above where we were in 2011, both in | :48:59. | :49:01. | |
constituency and the regional list vote. We are building on a very | :49:02. | :49:08. | |
strong track record in the last parliament. In the last Parliament, | :49:09. | :49:13. | |
Ruth Davidson established herself as the effective opposition, and now | :49:14. | :49:17. | |
what we are really gunning for this time round is to be the official | :49:18. | :49:21. | |
opposition. I have high hopes that we can make real progress. | :49:22. | :49:26. | |
No matter how popular she has become in Scottish politics, isn't she | :49:27. | :49:31. | |
still much more popular than the Conservatives brand? Doesn't it | :49:32. | :49:36. | |
remain tarnished? When you have a popular leader, you | :49:37. | :49:41. | |
put that popular leader front and centre. She connects with people, | :49:42. | :49:46. | |
she gets to the people, and you should play to your strengths, which | :49:47. | :49:50. | |
is what we have done this campaign. I think she is the one leader of a | :49:51. | :49:56. | |
party who quite clearly Campbell told the tool with Nicola Sturgeon. | :49:57. | :49:59. | |
That is what people are looking for in the next Parliament. -- can go | :50:00. | :50:11. | |
toe to toe with Nicola Sturgeon. How do you think Kezia Dugdale has | :50:12. | :50:14. | |
done as somebody who has not had very much time to get into the role | :50:15. | :50:23. | |
ahead of a crucial and difficult election for Labour? I think she has | :50:24. | :50:25. | |
done extremely well. Simply describing somebody as being really | :50:26. | :50:29. | |
effective in opposition does not mean it is actually the case. Kezia | :50:30. | :50:35. | |
Dugdale has led the way and some of the big political issues we confront | :50:36. | :50:43. | |
as a country. The real Bierley broke into political debate out in this | :50:44. | :50:50. | |
election, but people are talking about waiting times and hospitals, | :50:51. | :50:56. | |
elderly parents, education, and how we will fund it. Kezia Dugdale is | :50:57. | :51:01. | |
willing and able to make the case that if you have high quality public | :51:02. | :51:05. | |
services, you have to fund them. That debate was closed down by the | :51:06. | :51:12. | |
SNP and the Conservatives. That is profoundly depressing at a time when | :51:13. | :51:15. | |
we could actually have a conversation about how to use the | :51:16. | :51:22. | |
new powers of the Scottish Parliament. | :51:23. | :51:28. | |
Opinion polls are all that we have to go on. Approval ratings for party | :51:29. | :51:35. | |
leaders. Ruth Davidson, -6, Kezia Dugdale -9, Nicola Sturgeon plus 27. | :51:36. | :51:43. | |
There seems to be the gap between her approval ratings and the rest. I | :51:44. | :51:55. | |
am talking about the real world and the bravery that Kezia Dugdale has | :51:56. | :52:01. | |
shown... Excellence. Good. Labour make the assumption that the SNP is | :52:02. | :52:09. | |
unpopular on Keith -- key issues facing the country. I did not | :52:10. | :52:17. | |
interrupt you. We have plus approval ratings. There is no point in | :52:18. | :52:23. | |
opposition parties running against what they say is the SNP's bad | :52:24. | :52:29. | |
record when the people Scotland, the people that matter, the people | :52:30. | :52:33. | |
voting today, give the SNP such solid approval ratings. And people | :52:34. | :52:37. | |
have such confidence in Nicola Sturgeon. Nobody is denying that. | :52:38. | :52:43. | |
Nobody recognises any more than I do what Nicola Sturgeon has been able | :52:44. | :52:47. | |
to do. All I have said is that Kezia Dugdale has said that now is the | :52:48. | :52:51. | |
time, in the Scottish Parliament, with the powers that it now has, to | :52:52. | :52:53. | |
time, in the Scottish Parliament, talk about the big questions. | :52:54. | :53:00. | |
We are going to Cardiff to talk to James Williams for the story of the | :53:01. | :53:05. | |
Welsh Assembly elections. What do you think is the emerging picture? | :53:06. | :53:11. | |
One of the big questions in Scotland is whether Labour will be pushed | :53:12. | :53:14. | |
into third place. It could not be more different here in Wales. Wales | :53:15. | :53:21. | |
is still a Labour country and they're currently the biggest party | :53:22. | :53:25. | |
in the assembly, have been since the start of devolution, and he | :53:26. | :53:30. | |
currently holds 30 the seats. They are expecting to have a bad night, | :53:31. | :53:41. | |
the drop seats. Their worst was in 2007, is the equal that or do worse, | :53:42. | :53:46. | |
then the knives will be out for Carwyn Jones. Which of the other | :53:47. | :53:51. | |
opposition parties will benefit most? The Welsh Conservatives are | :53:52. | :53:55. | |
hoping to continue a run which has seen them increase their number of | :53:56. | :54:01. | |
seats in every single collection to date. They were the official | :54:02. | :54:05. | |
opposition in the last assembly, with 14 seats. But will internal | :54:06. | :54:09. | |
party strife over the EU referendum hamper them? Or will be billed on | :54:10. | :54:19. | |
the momentum from the general election, where the unexpectedly | :54:20. | :54:24. | |
snatched seats from Labour. Other Labour and Tory marginals to keep an | :54:25. | :54:30. | |
eye on, Cardiff North, the Vale of Glamorgan, and Wrexham. As for Plaid | :54:31. | :54:37. | |
Cymru, quite frankly they can only make enviously at the sister party, | :54:38. | :54:44. | |
the SNP, in Scotland. Plaid Cymru are in third place as it stands here | :54:45. | :54:52. | |
in Wales, and only potentially Wokington moved into second place, | :54:53. | :54:56. | |
calling themselves the Government in waiting -- potentially moving into | :54:57. | :55:09. | |
second place. Can there be some inroads into additional Labour | :55:10. | :55:25. | |
strongholds? As for the Liberal Democrats, quite frankly, it is a | :55:26. | :55:31. | |
question of survival. How many of the five seats will be returned | :55:32. | :55:35. | |
tonight? This could be their toughest contest, they are briefing. | :55:36. | :55:41. | |
We are expecting at least some Ukip members for the very first time. | :55:42. | :55:45. | |
Anywhere between five and eight to be included on the original top up | :55:46. | :55:53. | |
list. That would be a great shake-up, quite frankly. We are | :55:54. | :55:57. | |
expecting hung assembly, we are expecting Welsh Labour to be the | :55:58. | :56:00. | |
biggest party, but will be have enough seats to go to one, or will | :56:01. | :56:04. | |
be be able to form a coalition? We will have to wait and see. Word | :56:05. | :56:10. | |
from the BBC's Ross Hawkins, who is looking at the English local | :56:11. | :56:16. | |
Government elections. He is saying that Labour is losing seats in | :56:17. | :56:19. | |
English council elections. Jeremy Corbyn needs to win places like | :56:20. | :56:26. | |
Corby and Northampton if it is to be a successful night for Labour. At | :56:27. | :56:31. | |
this stage, it looks like the Labour Party is losing seats in England. | :56:32. | :56:35. | |
Let's go back to the Scottish Parliament election, and top four | :56:36. | :56:38. | |
with Brian Taylor, who has been casting his eye over a number of | :56:39. | :56:43. | |
seats that will be of interest to the SNP. | :56:44. | :56:44. | |
With trepidation, given the last the SNP. | :56:45. | :56:51. | |
time that we went to this machine. The question I ask on this occasion, | :56:52. | :56:57. | |
is can the party which won the last Holyrood election, do even better | :56:58. | :57:01. | |
this time? To do so, the SNP would need to win some of the seats that | :57:02. | :57:05. | |
they failed to take in 2011. One of the biggest scalps, my apologies, | :57:06. | :57:12. | |
because she is on the panel, would be Johann Lamont, in Glasgow Pollok. | :57:13. | :57:17. | |
I was covering that constituency, and incredible fight between Johann | :57:18. | :57:22. | |
Lamont and Humza Yousaf. A very tight majority there. Motherwell and | :57:23. | :57:29. | |
Wishaw. These to be another Labour Leader gear. That was Jack | :57:30. | :57:39. | |
McConnell. Look at the majority. Clare Adamson, she's hoping this | :57:40. | :57:47. | |
time the post John Pentland. -- to oust. The Motherwell constituency | :57:48. | :57:58. | |
was the very first ever SNP MP. He held it only for a few months during | :57:59. | :58:04. | |
wartime election. One of the seats that the party would want to hold | :58:05. | :58:08. | |
onto. Another is Caithness, Sutherland and Ross. The new | :58:09. | :58:16. | |
contender for the SNP is Gail Ross, defending a pretty healthy majority. | :58:17. | :58:27. | |
The Liberal Democrats, fighting from second. He wants a to Holyrood. If | :58:28. | :58:39. | |
we look at the electron map, every constituency, the whole of the of | :58:40. | :58:45. | |
Scotland, voted SNP on the constituencies, they will still | :58:46. | :58:50. | |
manage to take a seat and list -- the whole of the North East of | :58:51. | :58:54. | |
Scotland. Let's find out whether they can | :58:55. | :59:00. | |
sweep the board again. Graham Stuart is in Aberdeenshire. But first, | :59:01. | :59:05. | |
Stephen Duff is in the city of Aberdeen. | :59:06. | :59:14. | |
The ballot box is streaming in here at the Robert Gordon University | :59:15. | :59:20. | |
sports hall. Three seats up for grabs, the SNP the last election and | :59:21. | :59:26. | |
it hoped to win them again. The voters of Aberdeen Donside were | :59:27. | :59:32. | |
tested in a by-election, the SNP winning that reasonably well. The | :59:33. | :59:35. | |
main battle ground has been Aberdeen Central, which the SNP took from | :59:36. | :59:40. | |
Labour with just several hundred votes in 2011. The big issue there | :59:41. | :59:45. | |
has been Aberdeen Royal Infirmary, and whether it will be a major | :59:46. | :59:49. | |
trauma centre. It took until just two days ago, when Nicola Sturgeon | :59:50. | :59:57. | |
visited, to see without the tube IT that it would be a major, centre. -- | :59:58. | :00:12. | |
without dubiety. Last time out Labour won three seats. Probably | :00:13. | :00:16. | |
because of their poor performance in the constituency vote. They will be | :00:17. | :00:19. | |
hoping the world onto them. The Conservatives will be hoping to turn | :00:20. | :00:26. | |
to into the, and the SNP broke the system by winning the constituency | :00:27. | :00:29. | |
seats in the North East of Scotland region last time around and winning | :00:30. | :00:33. | |
a list seat. The funny story about that is that the SNP that was | :00:34. | :00:41. | |
elected to the list did not expect to be elected and turned up in his | :00:42. | :00:46. | |
jumper and jeans and ended up on the platform. The co-convenor is top of | :00:47. | :00:52. | |
the list. Hopeful of getting a seat on the list as well. That adds up to | :00:53. | :00:57. | |
more than the seven seats, they will not get what they are hoping for. | :00:58. | :01:00. | |
more than the seven seats, they will Counts in Aberdeen city are known | :01:01. | :01:01. | |
more than the seven seats, they will more for the efficient the rather | :01:02. | :01:07. | |
than speed. For 30 AM on words for the constituency seats, and the West | :01:08. | :01:12. | |
probably between seven o'clock and eight o'clock -- for 30 AM. | :01:13. | :01:23. | |
Three strong SNP St seats here in Aberdeenshire. One of the seats, | :01:24. | :01:31. | |
Aberdeen show East, is of reticular interest to Alex Salmond. Until now | :01:32. | :01:37. | |
he has held that seat with a thumping majority -- of particular | :01:38. | :01:40. | |
interest. Gillian Martin has made some | :01:41. | :02:02. | |
disparaging comments about the royal family, the EU and Alex Salmond | :02:03. | :02:08. | |
himself, referring to him as smug. Aberdeenshire has been strong Lib | :02:09. | :02:11. | |
Dem territory. If there is going to be any Lib Dem revival tonight, | :02:12. | :02:17. | |
there will be some signs of it here. Christine Jardine is contesting | :02:18. | :02:23. | |
Aberdeenshire East. Aberdeenshire West has more traditionally been in | :02:24. | :02:27. | |
Lib Dem hands, only in 2011 the SNP lost that. I'm sure is another SNP | :02:28. | :02:40. | |
majority last time in the region of 14,000 votes. The SNP very confident | :02:41. | :02:44. | |
tonight of these three seats. It will be interesting to see if they | :02:45. | :02:47. | |
do win, what majorities they will get. Aberdeenshire East should | :02:48. | :02:54. | |
declare around 4:30 a.m.. Aberdeenshire West and the rest, it | :02:55. | :02:59. | |
will be five a.m., so it will be a long night. | :03:00. | :03:04. | |
Thanks to Graham and Stephen in Aberdeen. Let's go to Glasgow and | :03:05. | :03:08. | |
talk with the Labour leader of Glasgow City Council, a former MSP | :03:09. | :03:13. | |
and minister, Frank McAfee T. We have been discussing that if Labour | :03:14. | :03:16. | |
lose their remaining seats in Glasgow, is that your expectation? | :03:17. | :03:25. | |
We have expected a tough election campaign and tonight, it is looking | :03:26. | :03:30. | |
like we could lose the remaining constituency seats. It is a | :03:31. | :03:34. | |
disappointing night for me because I have been a colleague of those | :03:35. | :03:37. | |
individuals who have worked incredibly hard for their area. We | :03:38. | :03:43. | |
are looking at an election where we need to continue to rebuild. It | :03:44. | :03:48. | |
sounds like the party is going backwards at this election, rather | :03:49. | :03:54. | |
than rebuilding anything? Kezia Dugdale has identified we want to | :03:55. | :03:58. | |
rebuild the party for the next generation. Last year's results were | :03:59. | :04:02. | |
cataclysmic for Scottish Labour and we need to pick ourselves up from | :04:03. | :04:05. | |
that. What is disappointing is we need to pick ourselves up from | :04:06. | :04:09. | |
turnout across the city of Glasgow, so I am concerned about the | :04:10. | :04:13. | |
Democratic process. We don't know if there is as many people | :04:14. | :04:19. | |
participating as we thought. We know the job ahead is to regain the trust | :04:20. | :04:24. | |
of the people of Scotland and Glasgow and that is the challenge | :04:25. | :04:29. | |
for us. Thanks for joining us live from the Emirates arena. Let's hear | :04:30. | :04:34. | |
what the and her guests are making of things so far. | :04:35. | :04:35. | |
what the and her guests are making Good evening. We will be providing | :04:36. | :04:40. | |
you with the alternative to the politicians. We will be asking the | :04:41. | :04:44. | |
thoughts of the campaign itself. Looking over some of the high points | :04:45. | :04:48. | |
and some of the low points and finding out what the newspapers are | :04:49. | :04:54. | |
saying. We have our guests, Eamon O'Neill and Stuart Cosgrove. | :04:55. | :05:01. | |
Welcome. What is it about Scottish politicians there is the | :05:02. | :05:03. | |
increasingly bizarre nature of these photocalls? In all truth, I don't | :05:04. | :05:10. | |
have a clue why they do this. Whoever these geniuses are battling | :05:11. | :05:14. | |
it is good idea to stick Ruth Davidson on a buffalo and this will | :05:15. | :05:18. | |
connect with the Scottish electorate, I don't know who they | :05:19. | :05:21. | |
are and pays their wages, but it should be examined more closely. It | :05:22. | :05:28. | |
is the never ending quest of spin doctors, special advisers, call them | :05:29. | :05:31. | |
what you like, to normalise politicians. I don't think it is a | :05:32. | :05:35. | |
good ring to do or unattainable thing to do. They need to go back to | :05:36. | :05:41. | |
the drawing board and think up a new blueprint. I think we have seen a | :05:42. | :05:47. | |
failure in terms of these photocalls. All the political | :05:48. | :05:52. | |
parties have called their leaders out on a particular day and what | :05:53. | :05:56. | |
ever the theme is they are dealing with, asked them to do the most | :05:57. | :06:02. | |
preposterous things. It has ended up, in a puerile way, trivialising | :06:03. | :06:05. | |
some of the issues we have been dealing with. We are in this | :06:06. | :06:10. | |
situation where the photocall has virtually failed. It doesn't matter | :06:11. | :06:15. | |
if it is fornicating pigs, buffaloes or whatever, but the reality is the | :06:16. | :06:19. | |
concept has failed and I would rather the politician talk about | :06:20. | :06:24. | |
their message rather than behave like a clown. Do the voters feel | :06:25. | :06:32. | |
cheated, do they want to hear more about policy? The voters feel | :06:33. | :06:36. | |
disconnected from the process. They are a lot more savvy and smart in | :06:37. | :06:40. | |
terms of understanding what they are meant to think. I think they know | :06:41. | :06:43. | |
they are being handled, albeit through the media. They fully | :06:44. | :06:48. | |
understand this process, and that is why you will see a reasonable | :06:49. | :06:51. | |
turnout this evening, it won't be the same energy or the engagement of | :06:52. | :06:58. | |
the independence referendum in 2014, saw things happen. People react and | :06:59. | :07:05. | |
by not turning up, vote with their feet. The media need to rethink the | :07:06. | :07:08. | |
by not turning up, vote with their strategy and the hand is presenting | :07:09. | :07:12. | |
the politicians to the media, to come up with a 2016 strategy and | :07:13. | :07:17. | |
then instead of one which would look exactly the same in 1996. So often | :07:18. | :07:29. | |
this election we have seen vaulting the shark jumping the buffalo, call | :07:30. | :07:34. | |
it what you will. It is a failure in which the way they planned the day. | :07:35. | :07:38. | |
They often talk about serious things, education, nursery, | :07:39. | :07:44. | |
long-term care for the elderly, why do they feel the need to dress up | :07:45. | :07:51. | |
like fools? It doesn't work. One of the things that has succeeded really | :07:52. | :07:57. | |
well in this campaign, has been the big reads in the newspapers, like | :07:58. | :08:01. | |
the Times, Peter Ross has done excellent interviews, in almost an | :08:02. | :08:06. | |
the Times, Peter Ross has done old-fashioned way with the leaders | :08:07. | :08:09. | |
of the parties. He has given new stories from them and encounters, | :08:10. | :08:13. | |
which other parts of the media haven't managed to touch on. He | :08:14. | :08:19. | |
mentioned the spoofing, but when you talk about the tank commander, which | :08:20. | :08:25. | |
has been a phenomenon of this campaign, why is it so popular? He | :08:26. | :08:31. | |
is a popular comedian and well-known to the public. In some respects, the | :08:32. | :08:36. | |
bite-size working of it has worked perfectly in the era of the | :08:37. | :08:41. | |
internets and what ever was an Internet commission that found its | :08:42. | :08:46. | |
way onto television. I would advocate a note of caution, because | :08:47. | :08:53. | |
was it dangerous television? No, but was it biting satire? No, but was it | :08:54. | :08:58. | |
funny in places? Yes. We shouldn't get carried away with the fact that | :08:59. | :09:03. | |
because we had some funny clips, that means we have had a profoundly | :09:04. | :09:05. | |
because we had some funny clips, interesting election. We have not. I | :09:06. | :09:09. | |
would have liked Barry to be more ruthless with the questioning, it | :09:10. | :09:16. | |
felt tamer times. I enjoyed it, it was funny but it wasn't dangerous | :09:17. | :09:21. | |
satire. Social media is such a massive part of campaigners, who are | :09:22. | :09:25. | |
satire. Social media is such a the winners, who are the losers? Who | :09:26. | :09:27. | |
controlled it and who didn't? I thought about this before I came in | :09:28. | :09:34. | |
this evening. It wasn't the independence referendum where you | :09:35. | :09:37. | |
could say there was an identifiable growth on the online alternative | :09:38. | :09:41. | |
media sector, if you want to put it that way. I didn't see that engaging | :09:42. | :09:48. | |
in the same way. It was down to the fact it was a foregone conclusion | :09:49. | :09:52. | |
who was going to win. The rest of the parties went up to speed, if you | :09:53. | :09:58. | |
put it broadly speaking, the yes movement and the SNP were coming out | :09:59. | :10:03. | |
of the independence referendum with the great momentum behind them. The | :10:04. | :10:06. | |
other parties had to catch up online and they haven't. In comparison to | :10:07. | :10:12. | |
that, it is a difficult comparison to draw, because it is rare that | :10:13. | :10:16. | |
happens. They just didn't manage to hit those heights. Thank you both | :10:17. | :10:22. | |
very much, we will put some of your points about the photocalls to the | :10:23. | :10:26. | |
spin doctors. We are interested in what you are saying on social media. | :10:27. | :10:30. | |
Let us know what you're saying about the campaign, what you think about | :10:31. | :10:37. | |
the politics and use #SP16. Let's cross to Jackie Bird with the | :10:38. | :10:45. | |
latest headlines. So far, the speculation surrounds the race for | :10:46. | :10:48. | |
second place. Suggestions are emerging from the Glasgow count | :10:49. | :10:53. | |
means Labour may have lost all the constituency seats. I stress, it is | :10:54. | :10:57. | |
only speculation, that the Labour leader of Glasgow City Council gave | :10:58. | :11:05. | |
his reaction. We have expected a tough election campaign and tonight, | :11:06. | :11:09. | |
looking at the early samples, it is looking like we could lose the | :11:10. | :11:13. | |
remaining constituency seats. It is a disappointing night for me because | :11:14. | :11:18. | |
I have been a colleague of those individuals who have worked | :11:19. | :11:21. | |
incredibly hard for their area. We are looking at an election where we | :11:22. | :11:23. | |
need to continue to rebuild. Is it are looking at an election where we | :11:24. | :11:26. | |
conceivable Labour could do so badly? They could come third to the | :11:27. | :11:33. | |
Conservatives. Let's look at the fortunes of those two parties over | :11:34. | :11:36. | |
the last four Scottish Parliament elections. We are looking at the red | :11:37. | :11:43. | |
and the blue lines. 1999, Donald Djourou is in charge becomes the | :11:44. | :11:48. | |
First Minister. Labour take 56 seats and enter into coalition with the | :11:49. | :11:54. | |
Lib Dems. The SNP become the largest opposition party and the | :11:55. | :11:59. | |
Conservatives only have 18 MSPs. By 2003, Jack McConnell is in charge | :12:00. | :12:04. | |
for Labour. The number of MSPs they return falls down to 50 and it is | :12:05. | :12:08. | |
another coalition with the Lib Dems. The Conservatives stayed the same on | :12:09. | :12:13. | |
18. We see a big change, the 2007 elections and amid the chaos of the | :12:14. | :12:18. | |
voting and counting fiasco you may recall, the SNP emerges the largest | :12:19. | :12:22. | |
party and form a minority government. Labour, down again, 46 | :12:23. | :12:28. | |
seats. The Conservatives dropping one down to 17. 2011 and the SNP | :12:29. | :12:37. | |
increased their lead, spectacularly and form a majority government and | :12:38. | :12:41. | |
get a mandate for an independence referendum. Labour drop even | :12:42. | :12:46. | |
further, 37 MSPs. The Conservatives are down to 15. So 2016, what will | :12:47. | :12:53. | |
happen? Is the SNP on course for a larger majority? Can Labour hang | :12:54. | :12:57. | |
onto second place or will the red line of their decline cross the | :12:58. | :13:03. | |
blue, putting the party they used to joke weighed their votes in some | :13:04. | :13:08. | |
parts of Scotland, rather than them, into third place? On social media, | :13:09. | :13:11. | |
let's see what they are talking about. Our reporter says the Lib | :13:12. | :13:18. | |
Dems sources are confident the party can hold Orkney and Shetland. The | :13:19. | :13:24. | |
BBC's Andrew Thomson, he is tweeting a picture of ballot boxes. That is | :13:25. | :13:31. | |
David Cockburn, who arrived in a plumber's van. We can see the votes | :13:32. | :13:41. | |
going from rats they... No, said that the next time. I wonder if we | :13:42. | :13:45. | |
need to count the votes at all because looking at the front pages, | :13:46. | :13:48. | |
the Daily Mail seems to have the results already. | :13:49. | :13:54. | |
They always have to take a gamble with their first editions, but less | :13:55. | :13:57. | |
so in this election than some others. Let's bring in our political | :13:58. | :14:03. | |
Campbell. Sir Menzies Campbell, news from your party colleagues in Orkney | :14:04. | :14:06. | |
and Shetland, that there is an expectation you will hold there. | :14:07. | :14:12. | |
Perhaps you might run the SNP close in Edinburgh West? That is what we | :14:13. | :14:17. | |
talked about when we opened the programme. Interestingly, the | :14:18. | :14:21. | |
turnout in Orkney was up to 63%, having been slightly less than 50 in | :14:22. | :14:28. | |
2011. If, as appears to be the case, we don't have the final result, we | :14:29. | :14:34. | |
have held the seat, I think it is a very good indication in the way in | :14:35. | :14:37. | |
which we are travelling in the course of this evening. Can I go | :14:38. | :14:42. | |
back to a point that comes out of the previous discussion. We cannot | :14:43. | :14:46. | |
speculate because we don't know what the results are. But we do have the | :14:47. | :14:50. | |
programme and the way in which the Scottish Government has had itself. | :14:51. | :14:56. | |
On areas like health and education, there is no doubt it has failed to | :14:57. | :15:01. | |
come up to scratch. That is now acknowledged. Even Nicola Sturgeon | :15:02. | :15:06. | |
said in the course of her courage, if you want good public services, | :15:07. | :15:12. | |
you have to pay for them. The only way to pay for them is by increasing | :15:13. | :15:19. | |
tax and take -- taxation. John Sweeney turned out every | :15:20. | :15:25. | |
opportunity. 1p for education, 500 million for early years education | :15:26. | :15:32. | |
and restoring the 150,000 places in further education, which the SNP | :15:33. | :15:32. | |
took away. On taxation, we do not want to turn | :15:33. | :15:46. | |
Scotland the highest taxed part of the UK. The economic situation in | :15:47. | :15:52. | |
Scotland is fragile and we need competitive economy to fund those | :15:53. | :15:53. | |
Scotland is fragile and we need public services. We get a | :15:54. | :15:56. | |
Scotland is fragile and we need competitive economy when we have | :15:57. | :15:59. | |
people with the skills to meet the challenges of modern employment. | :16:00. | :16:02. | |
This was supposed to be the tax election and it was much talked | :16:03. | :16:05. | |
about. There are clear differences between the parties. You think, | :16:06. | :16:09. | |
Johann Lamont, what will the native people when they put their crosses | :16:10. | :16:14. | |
on their ballot papers, or are there other politics, broader politics at | :16:15. | :16:20. | |
play? I think the conversation about taxation is a slightly longer term | :16:21. | :16:25. | |
one. If I were Nicola Sturgeon, and I have already recognised what she | :16:26. | :16:31. | |
has achieved, why is she so timid on the question of taxation? Unlike any | :16:32. | :16:35. | |
left of centre politician in a generation, which is 20 years, she | :16:36. | :16:40. | |
would have the Opposition agreeing with her. She would have Liberal | :16:41. | :16:46. | |
Democrats and Labour saying, you are right, we will support you. Let us | :16:47. | :16:51. | |
have a conversation about how we can win the political argument for | :16:52. | :16:54. | |
taxation. She closed it down. She would rather continue with an | :16:55. | :16:57. | |
argument which said, I will tax economy can work with high public | :16:58. | :17:06. | |
services. Should your party have been bolder on taxation? We have had | :17:07. | :17:11. | |
the election, we are about to have the results, there is no point in | :17:12. | :17:17. | |
refighting the campaign. Five years ago, Tavish Scott, as leader of the | :17:18. | :17:21. | |
Liberal Democrats, was proposing a cut in the basic rate of income tax. | :17:22. | :17:28. | |
That volatility in the liberal position is why they are in the | :17:29. | :17:32. | |
position they are. As far as Johann Lamont is concerned, Nicola Sturgeon | :17:33. | :17:37. | |
put forward a proposal to increase tax yield by ?2 billion over the | :17:38. | :17:40. | |
course of the parliament, that is entirely sensible. In March, 22nd, | :17:41. | :17:47. | |
the SNP divided the House of Commons against the Chancellor's proposal. | :17:48. | :17:54. | |
The Labour Party sat on their hands and abstained. If the Liberals go on | :17:55. | :18:09. | |
these gymnastics from election two election, and the Labour Party: | :18:10. | :18:12. | |
these gymnastics from North to South of the border, you can hardly expect | :18:13. | :18:17. | |
able to disagree with a coherent approach of the SNP. Three parties | :18:18. | :18:25. | |
that are in a bidding war as to who can... He does not agree because | :18:26. | :18:33. | |
they are all feeling degrees of hitting tax up. We are the one party | :18:34. | :18:37. | |
which is saying, you should not make Scotland the highest tax part of the | :18:38. | :18:44. | |
UK. Business leaders are saying we are on a knife edge and we have got | :18:45. | :18:48. | |
to create the conditions in which we can grow the economy, create jobs, | :18:49. | :18:54. | |
and that we generate the resources to fund public services. | :18:55. | :18:58. | |
What I was trying to get too was whether this was a factor people | :18:59. | :19:03. | |
making up their minds in the selection. That will wait to next | :19:04. | :19:08. | |
discussion. Thank you for the moment. A tough | :19:09. | :19:14. | |
night potentially for the Labour Party, as we have been discussing. | :19:15. | :19:18. | |
Ryan Taylor is here. What seats are they most worried about -- Brian | :19:19. | :19:27. | |
Taylor. They want to hold the Conservatives | :19:28. | :19:30. | |
down into third place. But look at some seats, Cowdenbeath, in the | :19:31. | :19:49. | |
by-election Alex Rowley on a fairly narrow majority. Against him was | :19:50. | :19:54. | |
Annabelle Ewing, from the Ewing dynasty. We will be watching that | :19:55. | :20:06. | |
one very closely indeed. Alex Rowley is a key strategist in the party. | :20:07. | :20:12. | |
Across in Dunfermline, again it was a by-election, Bill Walker took the | :20:13. | :20:19. | |
seat last time. The party lost following the court case which saw | :20:20. | :20:29. | |
him convicted of domestic violence. Candle Labour MSP be -- candle | :20:30. | :20:37. | |
Labour MSP be successful again? Edinburgh Southern was held on by | :20:38. | :20:48. | |
the Labour Party. Jim Eadie is the NSP. Can he hold off a challenge | :20:49. | :20:54. | |
from Daniel Johnson? The SNP are fairly confident they can. That is | :20:55. | :21:01. | |
one worth watching, to see whether Labour can replicate the UK general | :21:02. | :21:04. | |
election result in that constituency. | :21:05. | :21:09. | |
What prospects for a Labour, defending a number of | :21:10. | :21:15. | |
constituencies? Former leader Iain Gray is under pressure in East | :21:16. | :21:23. | |
Lothian. But we go live tomorrow tarmac to Motherwell. -- we go live | :21:24. | :21:30. | |
to Motherwell. It is not looking good for a Labour | :21:31. | :21:37. | |
here. These to joke about weighing the vote here in Lanarkshire rather | :21:38. | :21:44. | |
than counting it. If Labour is to have any hope of holding onto some | :21:45. | :21:47. | |
first past the post constituencies, then the Lanarkshire seats must hold | :21:48. | :21:54. | |
some hope. But things are looking poor for the party. Five seats are | :21:55. | :22:00. | |
going to be counted here tonight in Motherwell. Three of them were held | :22:01. | :22:05. | |
by Labour back in 2011. The other two went to the SNP. All those three | :22:06. | :22:11. | |
Labour seats were held by relatively small majorities, though. Let's take | :22:12. | :22:16. | |
a look at his defending what. Motherwell and Wishaw used to be | :22:17. | :22:23. | |
Jack McConnell's seat. It was held by a majority of just under 600 by | :22:24. | :22:28. | |
John Pentland in 2011. He is facing a very real fight to hold that seat. | :22:29. | :22:34. | |
In Uddingston and Bellshill, Michael McMahon, his majority last time | :22:35. | :22:39. | |
round was just under 700. Coatbridge and Chryston, Elaine Smith, she had | :22:40. | :22:48. | |
the best of the three Labour majorities but by no means safe. | :22:49. | :22:51. | |
Three tiny Labour majorities relative to what they used to have | :22:52. | :22:56. | |
in what used to be an absolute Labour Party fortress. Since 2011 we | :22:57. | :23:02. | |
have seen the SNP take all the Westminster seats in the area, and | :23:03. | :23:06. | |
it was also an area which voted yes on the independence referendum. You | :23:07. | :23:12. | |
can see why the SNP has reason to be optimistic here. Alex Neil the | :23:13. | :23:20. | |
cabinet minister has a majority of around 2000 in Airdrie and Shotts. | :23:21. | :23:34. | |
Jamie Hepburn also has a majority. He was looking fairly relaxed, but | :23:35. | :23:38. | |
there is not such a relaxed look on Labour Party faces this evening. As | :23:39. | :23:44. | |
far as the timescale is concerned, we are expecting the first of the | :23:45. | :23:46. | |
constituency declarations around two o'clock. We are looking at sometime | :23:47. | :23:53. | |
around six o'clock before we get the regional list vote which is being | :23:54. | :23:58. | |
counted here. That is the senior in Motherwell this evening. Now we will | :23:59. | :24:06. | |
join my colleague in Haddington. Good evening. Short time ago the | :24:07. | :24:09. | |
former Scottish Labour leader Iain Gray arrived, he was looking fairly | :24:10. | :24:16. | |
nervous and he is good -- has good cause to be looking worried because | :24:17. | :24:18. | |
there is real possibility that he will lose his seat year, one that he | :24:19. | :24:25. | |
has held since 2007. At the Scottish election in 2011 he won by just 151 | :24:26. | :24:31. | |
votes, with the SNP snapping at his heels. That was a disastrous night | :24:32. | :24:36. | |
for Labour, which led to him resigning as Scottish Labour leader. | :24:37. | :24:40. | |
It looks like tonight might be even more disastrous for Labour. Here in | :24:41. | :24:46. | |
East Lothian, it has been traditionally a Labour area in | :24:47. | :24:50. | |
Holyrood and Westminster, but that changed last year when the SNP take | :24:51. | :24:58. | |
the seat from Labour, from the Westminster constituency of East | :24:59. | :25:01. | |
Lothian, a seat which Labour had held for the best part of 50 years. | :25:02. | :25:07. | |
The SNP tonight I really hope in that they can mirror that victory at | :25:08. | :25:12. | |
the Holyrood elections as well. The man that they have standing for the | :25:13. | :25:18. | |
SNP is called DJ Johnston-Smith. He is a local man, from just down the | :25:19. | :25:24. | |
road in Prestonpans. He was chair of the Yes campaign here in East | :25:25. | :25:27. | |
Lothian and was also the party agent for George Kerevan, who take that | :25:28. | :25:32. | |
Westminster East Lothian seat from for George Kerevan, who take that | :25:33. | :25:38. | |
Labour for the SNP. But if Iain Gray loses tonight, his constituency, he | :25:39. | :25:41. | |
still has a chance of getting back to Holyrood because he is number one | :25:42. | :25:46. | |
on the Labour Party list for the South of Scotland region, East | :25:47. | :25:48. | |
Lothian as part of the South Scotland region. If DJ | :25:49. | :25:54. | |
Johnston-Smith loses tonight, he has plenty of things he can do. He has | :25:55. | :26:00. | |
run pubs for 15 years and was apparently Scottish pub personality | :26:01. | :26:04. | |
of the year and was run up in the UK best high of the year competition as | :26:05. | :26:15. | |
well. He is looking like he is quite comfortable tonight. The SNP are | :26:16. | :26:18. | |
looking quite pleased with themselves, the Labour Party are | :26:19. | :26:22. | |
looking quite nervous. The counting of the postal votes is now finished | :26:23. | :26:28. | |
and all of ballot boxes are in the polling stations are owned East | :26:29. | :26:32. | |
Lothian. We are hoping for a declaration at around 3:30am. The | :26:33. | :26:36. | |
suites are just being passed round now to keep us all going until then. | :26:37. | :26:42. | |
We will bring you any more news. Iain Gray may well be looking | :26:43. | :26:46. | |
nervous about his prospects in that constituency. He has taken out an | :26:47. | :26:51. | |
insurance policy, he is the lead candidate on the South of Scotland | :26:52. | :26:56. | |
list vote. The same goes for MSPs like Johann Lamont, if she was the | :26:57. | :27:01. | |
lose the Glasgow Pollok seat she is second on the list for the Glasgow | :27:02. | :27:05. | |
region and stands a very good chance of remaining in Parliament as a | :27:06. | :27:11. | |
regional MSP as opposed to a constituency representative. | :27:12. | :27:17. | |
That is quite a big change in approach for Labour at the | :27:18. | :27:19. | |
selection. It is a source of innocent merriment for those of us | :27:20. | :27:25. | |
who have followed politics for well to see Labour so keen to win seats | :27:26. | :27:35. | |
on the West. There was top of them being backed or MSPs or even | :27:36. | :27:39. | |
second-class by the Labour Party. But those days are gone and Labour | :27:40. | :27:44. | |
is now dependent, to some extent, perhaps to a large extent, on the | :27:45. | :27:51. | |
list. The figures here in Glasgow, Johann Lamont and Anas Sarwar are | :27:52. | :27:59. | |
numbers one and two. North East Scotland, Jenny Marra, Lewis | :28:00. | :28:03. | |
Macdonald, one and two. Jackie Baillie in the West of Scotland. | :28:04. | :28:07. | |
There are whole pile of MSPs, if they do not linear constituencies, | :28:08. | :28:10. | |
they will be dependent upon the list. There is nothing wrong with | :28:11. | :28:16. | |
that, it is the system that was designed in the Scottish Parliament | :28:17. | :28:19. | |
to be correct if upon the distortions of the first past the | :28:20. | :28:22. | |
post Parliamentary system. It was deliberately designed by Labour with | :28:23. | :28:26. | |
that in mind. It is just a little bit amusing for those of us who take | :28:27. | :28:31. | |
a slightly ironic view of things to go back to 1999 and a rather | :28:32. | :28:37. | |
different perspective. Could you talk a little bit more about how the | :28:38. | :28:39. | |
system works, and what way and to talk a little bit more about how the | :28:40. | :28:41. | |
what extent the proportional regional list two balance out the | :28:42. | :28:46. | |
Parliament after the constituency vote iron? The regional list vote is | :28:47. | :28:54. | |
crucial to determining the overall shape of the Parliament. The idea | :28:55. | :28:57. | |
here is that that should be that the share of the vote that rugby is | :28:58. | :29:02. | |
reflected in Parliament is reflected in the share of the seats -- | :29:03. | :29:06. | |
properly. That should be a cause for concern for the Labour Party, | :29:07. | :29:09. | |
because in past elections they have done better in terms of their vote | :29:10. | :29:14. | |
because in past elections they have share in the constituencies than | :29:15. | :29:16. | |
they have done in the list. If that is repeated this time around, you | :29:17. | :29:22. | |
will receive fewer top-up seats, fewer additional members, and that | :29:23. | :29:26. | |
will have an overall detrimental effect on the overall seats in | :29:27. | :29:37. | |
parliament, given that Labour are predicted to win fewer seats in the | :29:38. | :29:40. | |
constituencies. I want to talk about turnout. We are | :29:41. | :29:55. | |
getting mixed messages. Frank Maccabi T suggested that turnout was | :29:56. | :30:01. | |
down. There are suggestions that turnout I don't in places like | :30:02. | :30:05. | |
Rutherglen, from the count in that part of the country. But from | :30:06. | :30:09. | |
Orkney, and we have confirmed turnout figure of 62%, which is | :30:10. | :30:15. | |
considerably up on 2011. It might be that people are comparing different | :30:16. | :30:19. | |
elections, as opposed to comparing this with the last Holyrood vote. | :30:20. | :30:24. | |
Anything you are picking up that can clarify? Those figures in Orkney are | :30:25. | :30:31. | |
intriguing. I was in Orkney during the campaign in a blizzard in late | :30:32. | :30:37. | |
spring. Nonetheless, it that blizzard one could discern that that | :30:38. | :30:40. | |
is a really fascinating contest that is going on. A real blood fight | :30:41. | :30:48. | |
between the incumbent MSP and the insurgent. It has been an incredible | :30:49. | :30:52. | |
fight. You have Orkney, a constituency that had the biggest no | :30:53. | :30:58. | |
vote in the referendum, and yet you have the serious prospect of the SNP | :30:59. | 3:36:37 | |
taking constituency against the incumbent Liberal Democrat in an | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
area where they have in Liberal Democrat since the very early days. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
It has been an amazing contest. Perhaps that has energised the poor | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
dear. -- people bear. I want to get out and about around | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the country but put this contest in perspective because we have been | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
spoiled by high turnout recently. You would expect the turnout be | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
lower than what we had in the general election last year but we | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
look at previous Scottish parliament elections. It has never reached 67%. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Forgot to that skill, it would suggest voter participation increase | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
is continuing. Let us go to the West Coast and more | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
pressure for some well-known faces. Fiona Walker is in Clydebank and | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
what is the story there? We have got to hot tickets. One is | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Clydebank and Milngavie and the other is Dumbarton. That's probably | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
what you are alluding to because Dumbarton is Jackie Baillie's seat. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
A big name in Scottish Labour, potential leader at one part won | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
point. She is one of those ones to watch. You are also mentioning this | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
insurance policy of being top of the list. That is what she has done. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Although it would be massively significant if she lost her | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
constituency seat, there is every chance we will see her back at | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Holyrood cos she's top of the liberal list for the West of | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Scotland. Clydebank and Milngavie is also clear. Clydebank historically | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
was red Clydebank but it's turned also clear. Clydebank historically | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
yellow in 2011. Again, as the SNP took parts of the country that time | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
around, you read expect, looking at the bigger picture tonight and | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Marines on the floor behind me, that that SNP margin will be increased. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
It is interesting. Nobody is looking that comfortable. Scottish politics | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
has been turned on its head like in other parts of the country. Nobody | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
is taking anything as a given. In fact, people are looking quite | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
nervous, checking papers one by one. This is before the real lists are | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
piling up. We would expect the first announcements, probably the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Clydebank and Milngavie constituency, probably after 2am. In | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the meantime, the heads are down and watching carefully. We will no go to | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Greenock. Good evening from the leisure centre | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
here. This is usually an ice skating rink. Fear not because it has been | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
covered up and know funds from me about politicians potentially | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
skating on thin ice. The ballot boxes arrived here from 11:30pm. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
There were comments and concerns about turnout in this constituency | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
being very low. That has yet to be confirmed. Certainly that seems to | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
be a genuine belief from some people high up in speaking to. This is a | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Labour heartland. Duncan Mick Newell who is standing down as an MSP has | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
held the seat since the Scottish parliament was created in 1999. If | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the SNP, as they think they're going to, when this seat, that would be | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
some story indeed. They are a very confident bunch. They are speaking a | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
good game. One of their list candidates has told me that they are | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
confident of a solid result. We will watch with interest on that one. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Duncan McNeil is standing down and that, coupled with the SNP's | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
popularity, means that Stuart MacGill in is very confidence that | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
he can win this seat at a third time of asking -- Stewart Milne. He | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
celebrates his birthday tomorrow. In 2011 he lost out but last time | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
around they were getting closer and closer and he only lost by 511 | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
votes. The Labour candidate is a new face. She has not stood as an MSP | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
before but she is known very locally around this constituency. She is | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
hoping her local knowledge will count for something. It is unlikely | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
that the Conservatives are the lab demo -- Lib Dems will make much in | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
route. I was speaking to the constituency candidate Graeme | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Brooks. He said if he won a few more thoughts on last time he would be | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
happy. John Watson is the Liberal Democrats candidate and he, along | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
with the other candidates, are also on the regional list as well. In | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
terms of the declaration, we think around about the 30 AM -- 3:30am. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
terms of the declaration, we think The regional list declaration will | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
take place sometime after that. Some way to go here. From the freezing | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
ice rink behind me, I will hand you to my colleague Sally McNair. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
I am at another ice rink and am happy to say that it was removed on | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Sunday and it is perfectly warm here. The big names here includes | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Derek Mackay. The SNP convener. He took the seat in 2011 with a fairly | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
comfortable majority 1500 and nobody expects him to lose tonight. One | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
name that we will not be seeing the results tomorrow morning is that of | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Labour stalwart Hugh Henry at the age of 64. He is stepping down. He | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
is one of the largest Labour majorities in Scotland so Councillor | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Paul O'Kane has a fairly safe bet. One of the first results we should | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
get is from Paisley. That is an interesting one because it is | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
currently held by the SMP's George Adam. We will have to wait and see | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
how things go tonight. We expect the first results BN | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
around three 30 AM and then a flurry of results at 4:30am. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
We have two new panellists. Polling McNeil has a Labour candidate that | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the selection and a former member of the Scottish for Glasgow Kelvin. And | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Alan Smith who is the SNP European representative. A word on the count | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
in the Borders. At least one of them, we are hearing from our | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
reporter. We're hearing that Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
is likely to be held. David Mandel was asked if he was confident about | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
his party's specs in that seat and he said he was. We will keep you | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
up-to-date on that. We will also bring you up-to-date figures on | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
up-to-date on that. We will also turnout as they come in. We were | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
touching on that earlier. Let me bring in our new guests. It does | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
indeed seem to be shaping up as a good night the SNP how good? | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Hope long is a piece of string at the moment? We are confident. We | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
have said it before and must see it again, to repeat the result from | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
last round was already an exceptional results to get that for | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
a historic third term would be incredible. We will see what happens | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
but cautiously optimistic. There is the Deputy First Minister | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
John Swinney. Not sure if he looks cautiously optimistic. If he does | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
not save your -- secured the constituency vote, given the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
messages the other parties are sent out about that any opinion falling | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
that suggested the SNP not doing quite as well on the list, could | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
that be difficult to get over that magic line? | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
We will see. That was why we were for throws in promoting the board | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
votes message. -- vociferous. It is not a second preference. It is a | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
different fought for a different set of politicians. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
We will see how successful are message has been. Has Labour had a | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
proper second vote strategy for the selection? You have only stood on | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the list for the Glasgow region, your fourth placed on that to be | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
elected for Labour. I've put in the effort required? | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
I think we've put in the effort. If you mean a party that has benefited | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
for so long from the constituency vote then it is quite a seismic | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
shift to change your strategy on to quite a different system. Alan is | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
right. There is still a bit of confusion about what the second vote | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
actually is. To be fair, I think it has worked for all political parties | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
to get that. We would say the SNP is probably a wasted vote on the less | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
and they would say otherwise. It depends how you think the night will | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
pan out. If the SNP as predicted are going to have a good night and it | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
will not get much on the list. It depends how you want to view | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
this. Some candidates tonight... Bad news for them is good news for | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
you. I have colleagues that I worked with | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
for a long time and I do not know what would hold for them. That is | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the system. It is designed to balance up a party of the majority | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
so there is a decent number in the opposition. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Let us cross live to Glenrothes where we can speak with Thomas | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Docherty, a former Labour MP who lost the seat in 2015 but is seeking | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
re-election as a list candidates. Reflecting back on the campaign that | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Labour has fought, how do you think it has gone? | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
I think we can begin by putting into context the general election result | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
last year in Scotland was Labour's worst performance since 1918. We | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
only polled 24.3% of the vote. All the indications tonight are that we | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
have gone further backwards from that and I do not even think the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
records show the result as bad as this in the hundred and ten plus | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
years of the Labour Party in Scotland. It is quite clear we have | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
had a bad night. Is that because the SNP are so | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
strong at the moment or does Labour have to take some responsibility for | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
a result like that if that is where you end up and for the campaign | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
message that you have used to try and shore up Labour support? | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
The indications tonight and from the opinion polls is that we are | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
fighting with the Conservative Party for second place. The swing that we | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
have seen tonight has been away from Labour and towards the Conservative | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Party and the indications that we are seeing are something like seven | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
out of ten, perhaps three quarters of Scots, who have gone to the polls | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
tonight have voted for a centre or centre-right party. The reality is | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
that if you stand on a platform that promises to raise taxes for | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
everybody earning over ?20,000, and unambiguously socialist platform | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
that calls for the scrapping of Triton amongst other things, and | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
with the UK reader that we have, there is a correlation with the fact | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
that are vote is going down. Possibly falling to one in five. And | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the Conservative vote at the same time going up. Someone once | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
described the famous 1883 manifestos the longest suicide note in history. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
The manifesto we stayed on his self a Malaysian for dummies. -- self | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Malaysian. On Labour's tax policy, Eddie | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
appeasing a penny on income tax and introducing a top rate -- was | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Kezia Dugdale deserves a huge amount of credit for taking on the argument | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
around austerity and the choices he made about public services. But all | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
of the polling shows, and experience shows us, that voters believe that | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
somebody else should pay more in tax, so the 50% tax rate, bashing | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
tax havens, of course that is popular electoral league, but the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
opinion polls show time and time again that something like two thirds | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
of Scots did not believe that the should pay more in tax, and you have | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
to respect that. The tax policy, among other things, has not | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
succeeded electorally. The fact that the Conservative Artie is going up, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
and I think it is fair to say that they have a strong chance of | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
and I think it is fair to say that overtaking us, certainly in this | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
region and some others, the Labour Party needs to have a debate about | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
our policy on tax, it needs to have a debate much more about the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
direction of travel for the party. In a word, given what you have said | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
and the criticisms you have made, do you have faith in the party's | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
leadership in Scotland and the UK? Anybody who thinks that Kezia | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Dugdale should resign should go and lie down in a dark room for sometime | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
because we have gone through something like six leaders in eight | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
years. Kezia Dugdale has fought a courageous and dignified campaign | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
and it has the stay as her leadership, and that rebuilding has | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
to remain. This is not the time for moving against Jeremy Corbyn but we | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
need to have a debate. Jeremy Corbyn has played very badly as parts of | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Scotland there are some parts where he has been a small help. But the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
reality is that we are losing perhaps one in five voters. On the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
doorstep, time and time again, Jeremy Corbyn, our tax policy, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Trident, has come up. We have to have the debate, if we want to be | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
relevant again, do not want to go through a night like this again, we | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
relevant again, do not want to go have to debate what on earth the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Labour Party is trying to achieve. You have started that debate right | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
now. Thomas Docherty, former Labour MP. I think his phrase will be | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
quoted back throughout the night. As well as the race for whomever will | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
become First Minister, there are plenty of contests throughout the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
country. This election makes for some | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
fascinating local battles between some well-known faces. So many of | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
them could deliver an upset. Let's take a quick trip around Scotland. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
We start down in the south-west corner in Galloway and western | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
We start down in the south-west Freese. This was once and SNP seat, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
but has been a conservative stronghold for 13 years. The former | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Presiding Officer is retiring. Finlay Carson is standing for the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Tories. He stayed for -- he stood for Westminster last year but was | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
swept away by the SNP tsunami. He is up against Aileen McLeod, who needs | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
a swing of less than 2% to win. Let's head North to Glasgow, to Mary | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Helen Springburn. It's a return bout between Patricia Ferguson and Bob | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Doris. She has represented merely held since 1999. He is currently a | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Glasgow list MSP. This is the third time in a row that they have fought | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
each other for this seat. Will it be third time lucky for Bob Doris. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Right around the coast to the Northern Isles, to Shetland, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Scotland's most northerly constituency. The Northern Isles are | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
traditional redoubt of the Liberal Democrats. This seat is held by | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Tavish Scott. Danus Skene is hoping to overturn that result. At the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
general election he almost beat Alistair Carmichael. Can you conquer | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
another Lib Dem to when Shetland for the nationalist? It is a big | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
challenge, he needs an 18% swing for victory. Let's head South. Back to | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the mainland. Back to the Granite city. Hard battle in Aberdeen | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Central. The SNP 's Kevin Stewart has represented this seat since | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
2011. He is standing against the man he beat, the veteran Labour MSP | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Lewis Macdonald, who had held the seat and is 1999. It was a close | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
contest last time around. Labour need a swing of just over 1% to take | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
it back. The voters know them both very well indeed, so who will be | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
choose? Let's travel down the East very well indeed, so who will be | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Coast, down to Dunfermline, seat Brian Taylor mentioned a short time | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
ago. One of the biggest towns in Fife, and a contest between two | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
politicians. The incumbent is Labour's Cara Hilton, the daughter | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
of another former Labour MSP. She won the seat from the NSP -- SNP in | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
a by-election three years ago, during the life of the last | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Parliament. Now she is up against Shirley-Anne Somerville, the SNP's | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Parliament. Now she is up against Deputy Chief Executive. Based on | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
that by-election result, the SNP leader 6% swing to take this seat. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
What is odd about this contest is that it was won by the SNP at the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
last Scottish election. So if they win it tonight it will count | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
officially as a held seat for them. It will not be a win. Lots of | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
fascinating contest, lots of big personalities, all of them will make | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
a difference to the overall results. We will have news from Dunfermline | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
in a moment. First, we cross the East Kilbride. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
I am hearing from SNP activists here about the Rutherglen count, which is | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
held at the moment by James Kelly for a that they have in fact taken | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the seat with about 55% of the vote. That is based on exit polls carried | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
out by the SNP. I do have a confirmed figure for the turnout in | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Rutherglen. It is 54.5%. That is up from the 47% of 2011. That's quite | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
interesting in terms of the increased turnout. It is not as high | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
as the general election last year, or the referendum the year before. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
But it shows that the voting in the Scottish Parliament elections is | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
getting back to healthy level. While you have been talking, says | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Lanarkshire Council, responsible for that count, has tweeted to say that | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
adjudication of doubtful ballot papers is happening, which is good | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
news, because it means that they will soon be announcing the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Rutherglen constituency result. That may well be our first result of the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
evening. It did not come before 12 o'clock as might have hoped, but it | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
sounds like it is coming soon. I do not know how long we will have to | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
wait for a Fife results, but let us go to Glenrothes. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Good evening. We are in Glenrothes One. I think you heard from | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Glenrothes One earlier. The codes that are going on here at the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
moment, they are still verifying that are going on here at the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
them, Cowdenbeath and on farmland. Both of them are really interesting | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
seats. Relatively new constituencies. -- Dunfermline. What | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
many people would have thought until constituencies. -- Dunfermline. What | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
a few years ago would be Labour heartland. They have been taken are | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
held by Labour in by-elections recently. Really interesting target | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
seats. Alex Rowley in Cowdenbeath took the seat in 2014 at the death | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
of Helen Eadie, the well-respected Labour MSP who had been in the seat. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Obviously a very prominent figure in the Labour Party, former leader of | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Fife Council, former general secretary of the Labour Party. Close | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
adviser to Gordon Brown and Kezia Dugdale's Deputy. A big the ten next | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
target for the SNP here. And also that one seat that they failed to | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
win in mid-Scotland. You can see why it is a big target. Dunfermline, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Cara Hilton, in 2013 she took that seat. It was a by-election triggered | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
by the resignation of Bill Walker, who was convicted of domestic abuse, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
that was an SNP seat which went to Cara Hilton, who is Labour. Again, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
target seats cause it is all the time Labour has taken a seat in a | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
by-election from the SNP. You can see why they are real target seats | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
and of real interest to the SNP. They are not complacent about it, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
they are wheeling out the big guns to target those two seats. They have | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Annabelle Ewing, from the famous Scottish poet call family, and also | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Shirley-Anne Somerville, Deputy chief executive of the SNP. -- the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
famous political family. We will see whether they have what it takes to | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
take those seats. An interesting mixture of old and new, change and | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
stability, and I suppose we will get a result eventually. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
I just want to get a quick word from Brian Taylor. A few moments ago we | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
heard from Thomas Docherty of Labour, he said that it is | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
self-immolation for dummies for a That is an incredible statement. A | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
very senior figure in the party, a former MP, regarded as a player, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
strategist, he knows how to win votes for the most part unless the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
tide is completely against them. He is prepared to say that the party's | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
campaign has been a dead loss. He was prepared to make a distinction | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
between the Scottish leadership and Jeremy Corbyn. He was plainly saying | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the fight against Mr card and will resume the minute the European | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
referendums openly -- Jeremy Corbyn. He was also saying that anybody who | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
goes against Kezia Dugdale and Alex Rowley needs they are -- their head | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
goes against Kezia Dugdale and Alex examined. They have fought a binary | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
track. They have been trying to win every single vote at every single | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
seat, and the leadership has been trying to shore up their own | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
position. They know that there has to be another period of | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
introspection by Labour, yes, another one. It will follow these | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
elections. Thomas Docherty is trying to nail down the nature of the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
policies, left and right, socialist versus alternative perspectives from | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
policies, left and right, socialist the Labour Party. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Back to our panel. Andrew Dunlop, for the Conservatives, another thing | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Thomas Docherty was saying was that Labour was losing support to your | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
party. In some parts of the country there is more of a close fight | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
between the two than others. I think there is more of a close fight | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the difference between the Scottish Conservatives and Labour in this | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the difference between the Scottish election is that we are absolutely | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
clear what we stand for. One of Labour's the problems is it is not | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
clear what they stand for. Not a representative sample, but speaking | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
to the cab driver who brought me year, we were talking about the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
election, he said that. We do not know what Labour stands for any | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
longer. What we are seeing is a battle for the soul of the Labour | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Party. There is division and that is what really crucifies the party, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
whether it is on Trident, whether it is on tax, whether it is even on | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
whether it is on Trident, whether it defending the union. This idea that | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Labour candidates can go out and campaign for independence. It is no | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
longer clear what the Labour Party stands for, and that is a real | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
problem for them in this election. And yet, in this election, Kezia | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Dugdale, on every interview occasion, at every opportunity, said | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Labour stood for putting up taxes to raise additional revenue to stop the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
cuts. What could be clearer than that? | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
The problem as she was also fighting against the attitude to Jeremy | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Corbyn. Andy Burnham was defeated candidate for the Labour leadership | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
and is generally regarded as being a playwright. If people like | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
haemorrhagic now saying they will not be bothered but the fight and | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
will call off someone else, that is an additional dimension to the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
problems that Labour has. As Thomas Docherty was seeing, on the 24th of | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
June, the effort to replace Jeremy Corbyn will begin. How successful | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
that will be will be problematic because he was elected on the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
extraordinary support of the vast a membership. Join for three quid and | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
you can afford for the leader. Anyone who tries to remove them will | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
find themselves undoubtably at odds with the membership in general. All | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
that means is that this letter will get bigger. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Your party leader, Tim Farron, came once. The Conservative leader did | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
not make it. Surely the selection compared to all the others has had | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the least involvement from UK politicians in the campaign. Is that | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
a big change and if so why? You are right to distinguish Tim | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Farron from others because he has been coming for six months. It is | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
not a question of avoiding responsibilities, anything but. If | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
you see to David Cameron not to come north and then Jeremy Corbyn not | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
come north, that is different to what you would have expected in the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
past. I remember John Major coming when I was trying to hold a seat. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
They just haven't been there this time. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
It may also be a reflection of the fact that Scottish politics is | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
different from United Kingdom politics and what carries with an | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
impetus in the rest of the reality kingdom does not necessarily carry | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
it in Scotland. This is the consequence of | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
devolution. This is an election about the Scottish parliament. It is | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
not David Cameron's name on the ballot paper. It is quite right that | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Ruth Davidson should lead our campaign and that is what she has | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
done. You would agree that it is a change | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
of approach. I concentrated on you to the cause I know you're moving | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
on. Perhaps will see you later in the evening. Right now I want to | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
catch up with Jackie Bird and the headlines so far. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Still waiting for that first result, expected to be in Rutherglen, as we | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
keep seeing. Tonight there is up. It is clear there has been no real | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
drop-off. -- turnout there is up. The knock-on from that was last year | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
in the general election. In Scotland, compared to 66% for the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
whole of the UK. 12 years after the inauguration, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
turnout had dropped to just over 50% last time around. It was as low as | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
35% in Glasgow Provan. It does seem to be DS MP's night. They are | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
looking pretty confident at the Glasgow count. Similar picture in | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Perth. Roseanna Cunningham there. I think we will just stay on this | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
for awhile. Enjoying herself. The newspapers reflecting that SNP | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
optimism. More worrying news for Labour on | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Twitter. I wonder when we will get any | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
declarations. Let us find out where we are at the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
declarations. Kent in the Shetland Islands now. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Who will take a trip round the island but start in Shetland. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
The counting is well under way. Strong indications that covers Scott | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
is polling well. -- Tavish Scott. He will hold onto it with an increased | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
majority this evening. He has fought a personal campaign. He has not left | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the island for five weeks. He has travelled right across knocking on | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
doors and has worked very hard. He has been arguing that it is about | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
home and not the party. His opponent, Danus Skene, almost took | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the seat from Alistair Carmichael in the UK general election last year. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Tonight the indication is that the SNP vote is not holding up. The last | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
of the ballot boxes arrived half an hour ago and we expect a declaration | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
around 230 AM. Over to Orkney. I think you can see behind me that | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the count has finished. They are totalling the figures. We hope to | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
have a declaration in around ten or 15 minutes. Indications are the same | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
as Shetland. It has been an interesting contest. A vibrant | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
contest. We have seen the vote rise. Liam McArthur appalled 35% last time | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
around. The SNP raise their vote last time was that we had an | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
independent candidate who was very popular. He was vice convener for | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the local council. He is not standing this time, standing on the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Highlands and Islands list instead. Both parties have been fighting | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
hard. We hope to have a declaration in a roughly ten or 15 minutes. No | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
over to Stornoway. Here in Na h-Eileanan an Iar we are | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
not expecting any surprises. It is traditionally here a two horse race | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
between the Labour Party and the SNP but this time the Tory vote, as | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
seems to be in the rest of Scotland, but this time the Tory vote, as | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
seems to be the talking point. He said that anything over 1600 | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
votes with please him greatly. That is the number secured by the local | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Tory candidate last time. We do not have a UK or Green candidate. We do | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
have somebody in the form of John Cormack who is standing for the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Scottish Christian Party. He is confident of gaining more votes this | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
time. In an island constituency stretching more than 100 miles from | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
north side, you can imagine it is a challenge to get all those votes, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
regardless of how people have voted, to the counting house. We know that | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the votes from the southern isles are on their way by plane from | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Benbecula airport and we expect them here at the sports centre in about | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
one hour. The declaration telling us how the people of the Western Isles | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
have voted in a selection is not due until at the very earliest 2am. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Thank you. I am getting the sense that things are starting to move. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
We're waiting for Rutherglen result. Will it be first? We are hearing we | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
might get a declaration in five minutes from Orkney. Once we have | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
results we will have plenty more to talk about. At the moment the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
speculation is that Labour are having a that night. Perhaps losing | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
all their seats in Glasgow. There is a sense that perhaps the Lib Dems | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
and conservative vote is holding up better in areas where they are | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
strong against a strong performance from the SNP. Let us speak with Ian | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Greig -- Ian Brady. Bat-mac Iain Gray -- Ian | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
we usually get a result at four in the morning so we have some time to | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
wait. What about your own prospects? You | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
were defeated by the SNP last time. Can you hold? | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
I think we can. I think it will be close. It will be some time before | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
we get a declaration here but I think we had a bad result I year | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
ago. I don't know of few picked up the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
comments that Thomas Doherty made earlier on the programme but he was | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
heavily critical of the campaign that Labour has fought for their | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
selection, suggesting it was a mistake to move to the left and that | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
they of course you support to the Conservatives. What do you make of | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
that analysis? Conservatives. What do you make of | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
I completely disagree with that. Kezia Dugdale has run a courageous | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
campaign. She has set the tone of the campaign and it has largely been | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
about who is willing to use the new powers of parliament in order to | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
stop austerity. And to invest in the future of this country. Kezia has | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
made it about that. ASCII knows who are in over a ?150,000 to pay more | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
in order to invest in our schools and close the attainment gap, that | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
seems to me a pretty solid Labour policy. I think you're in East | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Lothian, where I've been fighting on that platform, it has gone down very | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
well and people have responded well to it. So I disagree with his | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
comments. We will be back for news of that | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
count around 3am. Let us cross to Edinburgh. Whatever you hearing from | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the floor? The story from the capital is that | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
this will be DS MP's night. They are looking very strong in four of six | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
constituencies that will declare overnight. There is a really | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
interesting battle into them. In Edinburgh West, the Lib Dems are | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
seeing things are looking good for them. There's a real battle raging | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
between two the rising stars of the Liberal Democrats and the SNP. In | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Edinburgh Southern, which is broadly Liberal Democrats and the SNP. In | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
similar to the Westminster constituency of Edinburgh South, we | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
are told that Scottish Labour are in with a shout. The narrative | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
beginning to emerge becoming cleared with every passing hour. This will | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
be DS MP's night in the capital overall. -- this will be the SNP's | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
night. A declaration in Orkney is imminent. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
There are the candidates. Here it comes. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Our first result. The declaration from the Orkney constituency. This | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
is a seat where the Lib Dem 's' seat is declaring. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
SNP, 2562. Lib Dems, 7096. Scottish Labour Party, 3004. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Are you sure about that? My apologies, 304. I declare that | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Liam Scott McArthur is duly elected to serve as a member of this for the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Orkney Islands constituency. Thank you. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
The Liberal Democrats have held the Orkney Islands. It is our first | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
result in election 2016. Liam McArthur re-elected with 7096 votes. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Thanks to everyone at the county this evening for an incredibly | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
efficient running of this year's elections. So efficient that you did | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
not take into consideration that some of the candidates were coming | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
from a little way away. Thank you to the candidates and to the police are | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
making sure the selection has been run as smoothly as it has. Thank you | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
to the other candidates for the way they have conducted this campaign. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
On the occasion we're our paths have crossed, I have been hugely grateful | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
for the good-natured way in which they have sought to get across their | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
argument, make their case, always in the best of spirits. I thank them | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
and their campaign teams for that. I thank in particular my own campaign | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
team, whose energy, in Tuesday as and to terminate it -- in studios | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
and determination has been truly phenomenal. Thanks in particular to | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
David Green, coordinating the campaign, and to my agent, Rhys | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Williams, for her sterling efforts. Williams, for her sterling efforts. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
-- Rhys Williams. Thank you to my family, to Tom and calm, and to me | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
why. She has kept me sane and sensible throughout this and it | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
would not have been possible without her support. This has been a | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
remarkable campaign... I remarkable campaign indeed. Liam | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
McArthur seems a little exhausted by it all, but perhaps not surprised. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Not surprised that he has been able to hold on there. Because that was a | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
thumping majority that he secured, 4500 votes. He was defending a | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
majority of less than 1000, so a very strong performance for the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Liberal Democrats. Holding that seat for a Liam McArthur, re-elected. The | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
SNP's Donna Heddle was well behind. The Conservatives, Jamie Halcro | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Johnston, was third. Gerry McGarvey fourth and Paul Dawson in fifth | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
place. The turnout was up on last time. The Liberal Democrats taking | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
67% of the vote, the SNP on 24%, the Conservatives on 4%, Labour on 3% | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
and the Independent on 1%. Out does that compare with five years ago? | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Liberal Democrat vote up 32%. The SNP down slightly, the Conservatives | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
and Labour also down and the independent candidate registering 1% | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
up. As swing in the Orkney Islands. It | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
is from the SNP to the Liberal Democrats. It is 16%. Liam McArthur | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
re-elected therefore the Liberal Democrats. I very strong performance | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
for the party. The former leader of the party, a friend and colleague of | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Liam McArthur, if you are. Nickel Stephen. What you think of that | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
result? I think we might extrapolate it across all Scotland! Obviously it | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
is a very good result for a Liam McArthur. The rumours that I hear is | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
that we are doing well tonight. The hope is that the Liberal Democrats, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
under the leadership of Willie Rennie, who had a very good | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
campaign, the hope that that would turn into votes seems to be | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
happening. I think it would be wrong to suggest that it would be | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
reflected right across all of Scotland, but it is early days and | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
are very encouraging first sign. Why should the Liberal Democrats be | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
recording a strong performance like that, albeit in a traditional | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Liberal Democrat heartland in a night where we are hearing that | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Labour is suffering at the hands of the SNP? Why should they be in that | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
position and you performing strongly? It is interesting, because | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the other rumours we are hearing, which was reflected by your report | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
from the Edinburgh count, is that we are doing well, at least very | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
competitive in Edinburgh Western, and out of North East Fife there are | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
positive noises. In the places where we have been strong in the past, we | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
seem to be performing very well against the SNP but Labour still | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
have a very big problem in Scotland. I hope that the reasons for that are | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
positive reasons about our campaign and the fact that some of the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
reasons we were in quality with the Conservatives people are perhaps | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
realising that we did help to hold back some of the worst excesses of | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the Conservatives. But there is also need out there that is suggesting | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
that against the SNP we can win seats and. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Let's bring in Alyn Smith, our SNP representatives. That was a rubbish | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
result from your point of view. I'm disappointed for Donna Heddle. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
She fought a creditable campaign. All credit to the Liberal Democrats, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
that was a Lib Dem hold. Not a massive victory. But massive to | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
increase a majority in an area where there is a very small electorate. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
You cannot argue with those numbers. I congratulate him on his victory, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
but let us see what the rest of the night brings. Given that there were | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
particular circumstances in Orkney and Shetland, given the controversy | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
surrounding the Liberal Democrat MP, the former Scottish Secretary | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Alistair Carmichael, and the famous, now infamous leaked memo, do you | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
think with hindsight it might have been a mistake for some constituents | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
to have gone to court to try to overturn his pre-election as an MP? | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Might that have backfired? That is a matter for them. That has nothing to | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
do with the SNP and was not inspired by us. There was a real sense of | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
anger that he lied during the course of that campaign, and a politically | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
motivated live which the admitted and apologised for. They were | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
perfectly within their rights to do that. Why should your party go back | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
in those circumstances? All because about about your leader, Nicola | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Sturgeon, and the SNP. Why would you go backwards in those circumstances? | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
I spent two days with Donna Heddle on Orkney and she was not using | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Alistair Carmichael issue in the campaign. She was very much about | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
speaking up for Orkney and she fought a creditable campaign on the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
moral high ground. But we now see what the numbers where and we will | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
need to have a look at what went wrong. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
We will now bring in our new panellist, are conservative | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
representative. We'll may have indications from the Conservative | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
point of view that your vote might be holding up against SNP challenge | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
in places where you have traditionally been strong. Is that | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
what you are hearing and why should that be the case on a night when | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Labour is braced for some bad results? | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
I think it is holding up, and holding up quite well. Results | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
across the border lands, some of the seats in the North East of Scotland. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
There is one simple explanation, which is localism. If you want a | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
local voice, someone to represent the constituency or the region, then | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
it will not be the SNP, that is a single voice, the voice from | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Edinburgh, the voice from the first Munster's office. We are witnessing | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
it, Liam McArthur for the good campaign but he was a strong voice | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
for the omens. -- for the islands. We have one campaign so far and we | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
are expecting another one soon. I, the returning officer, give | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
notice of the following. The electric to 60,707, the total votes | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
cast were 33000 and 87. The percentage | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Clare Haughey, Scottish National Party, 15200 and 22. -- 15,222. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
James Kelly, Scottish Labour Party, 11400 and 79. -- 11,479. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
The total ballot papers rejected... Taylor Muir, Scottish Conservative | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
and Unionist Party, 3718. I'd clear that Clare Haughey is elected to | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
serve in the Scottish Parliament. She is a new member of the Scottish | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Parliament. It is a win for the SNP in Rutherglen. A defeat for Labour. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
The SNP's Clare Haughey, selected with 11, defeating Labour's James | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Kelly, in second with 11,479. Robert Brown, a former MSP, comes forth. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
The turnout in Rutherglen tonight, 54%, which is up a bit on 2011. Vera | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
is the share of the votes, the SNP are on 46%, Labour on 35, the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Conservatives on 11%, the Liberal Democrats on 8%. And SNP majority of | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
3743. The SNP voters up seven. Labour are down 11. The | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Conservatives are up 4%. A 9% swing to the SNP. The | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
SNP gaining Rutherglen from Labour. Let's go to our panel, to our Labour | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
member, Pauline McNeill. Clearly, a colleague of yours will using a | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
seat, although James Kelly does have the chance of being re-elected on | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the list. What you make of that result? Obviously I am disappointed | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
for James Kelly, I thought that he ran a very energetic campaign. I got | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the impression he might do quite well. It is a result we were | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
prepared for in the sense that it would be difficult to buck the trend | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
of all the polls. But I do think it is a defining moment for a labourer. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Sadly, I think we will see more is a defining moment for a labourer. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
results like this, let's be honest about it. Where Thomas Doherty is | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
wrong in the campaign trail, there was, amongst the Labour support, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
great deal of support behind the argument that we should use the full | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
powers of Parliament. I think that that is an argument that Labour will | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
carry forward will stop that will be the challenge for Labour in this new | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
parliament, whatever the Nico Poux. You do not think that it was wrong | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
to advance that argument? I think that people were open to it. It is | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
too early to make an assessment as to whether it was the right strategy | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
are not. What I can say is that amongst Labour supporters it was | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
certainly a talking point. People were willing to enter into a debate | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
about what kind of Scotland people want to see, a challenge to | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
austerity. Thomas Doherty is ill judged to say so early in the night | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
that we were wrong, because we will not just see a manifesto commitment | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
that we were wrong, because we will that Labour will make, it is an | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
argument that they will take forward however their numbers pan out during | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the course of the night into the new Scottish Parliament. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
What was a bad result for you was a very good result for the SNP. We can | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
run that result nationwide, I'm happy with that. That is a great | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
result for her. I am staggered that a Labour candidate, before any of | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the results were even announced, with the -- would be using language | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
such as self-immolation for dummies. I know myself that if you are | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
looking to kick off a debate you need answers, not just incendiary | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
phrases. We are seeing a simmering discontent coming to the surface | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
before the polls are even declared, it is remarkable. Another thing to | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
note about the Rutherglen result is that the conservative vote was up | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
3.5%. That might have implications across the country. Let's cross now | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
live to the owner in the cafe. Scottish Labour as having a tough | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
night with the possibility of losing all constituency seats in Glasgow. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Kevin McKenna has described themselves as a traditional Labour | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
supporter and 48 yes. What has gone wrong for Labour? | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
How many years do you want me to go back? This is a 15 year problem. It | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
is no surprise what happened tonight. I think it is issued to | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
show that Scotland has got to confront. How do we pay for public | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
services? If we ever did become independent. I understand why Kezia | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Dugdale ran this tax policy but it was too little too late. What Labour | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
has got to learn and it has got to start from tomorrow is a | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
constitutional question about where they stand on this. We know where | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the Tories stand on it, Ruth Davidson made that clear. Whether | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
they want another referendum is another matter. Labour has to sort | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
that out. I've been saying for a long time think there should be an | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
independent Scottish Labour Party. It should be is time for the party | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
to seriously consider this but they are the leading themselves, sticking | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
their heads in the sand, if they do not realise the Constitution is the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
centre of Scottish politics. With we want to become an independent | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
separate state or some form of federalism. As long as Labour does | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
not confront that, it will be cast out into political wilderness in | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Scotland. He describe yourself as a | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
traditional Labour supporter. Should they look at the constitutional | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
question? That is just the latest of the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
questions they should be asking themselves. This has been a decline | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
since before 2007. The rating on the wall was there. -- writing. Judging | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
by the body language of some of the Labour people here, they are already | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
surrendering. The constitutional question is whether Labour is | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
dominating left-wing politics in Scotland. He have had several years | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
to form a policy on this and they have not. They have conceded ground | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
to the SNP. There's very little that Kezia Dugdale done wrong. But she is | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
a young inexperienced politician and she was entitled to expect a little | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
bit more help from some of the Labour grandees who have all taken | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
to the hills in the last year or so and taken the shelling from | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
corporate Europe. I think that is a very salient | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
point. What I don't like in the Labour Party and that has happened | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
with the PLP and the media joining in is as if activists are irrelevant | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
and the don't have common sense. This is because of Jeremy Corbyn but | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
he felt a vacuum because Labour activists felt so let down. I think | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
it is time for Labour to consult with the activists. In Scotland for | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
too long there has been a hierarchy, a small group of people running the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
party and dictating the part that is taking and ignoring this fact that | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the constitutional dominates Scottish politics and it will for | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the foreseeable future. We heard the brother can result -- | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Rutherglen. Is Labour losing its Unionist vote to the Tories? | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
What is the purpose of Scottish Labour? Right now it doesn't have a | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
coherent message and it hasn't had one for some time. We are in | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
constitutional politics know in Scotland. It is clear that the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Conservatives pitchers being the party of the union because Labour | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
are all oral -- all over the place. The Conservatives are quite rightly | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
and willingly going there and saying we're the party of gene in and it | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
doesn't seem to be working -- it is working. Labour have to work out | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
their position. They are still internally divided. There are a | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
series of factions in the party and Kezia Dugdale has had to put up with | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
senior people briefing against. If Labour continues to act like that | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
not be Labour Party in a few years. If you want to join in, please use | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the hash tag S P 16. We're going to Kelso and Aberdeen | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
for news but I want to hear from our winners. Liam McArthur re-elected as | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
MSP for Orkney. Congratulations. You must be relieved and delighted but | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
what you put that result down to? Thanks very much indeed. I have to | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
say the result was pretty overwhelming. There are probably | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
many reasons for it. We fought it positive campaign. I like to think | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
what I was offering at a local level in terms of the type of MSP that I | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
have been over the last five years and want to be of the next five. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
There was also concern that there was a process of centralisation, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
particularly over the last five years with the SNP determined | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
together more powers into the centre and that plays badly in a community | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
like Orkney. You have improved on your position | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
from last time, in part perhaps because of the involvement of an | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
independent candidates. In terms of that direct battle with the SNP, how | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
value closer? value closer? | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
-- run you closer. I think there were a number of | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
factors. The support for Scotland being a part of the UK was stronger | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
than in any other part of Scotland. What we have seen in terms of | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
centralisation of power is has played badly. There are ace views of | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
local issues where there played badly. There are ace views of | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
frustrations. Including things like the cheaper ferry fares which was | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
felt to be a slap in the face for Orkney and Shetland. There are a | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
range of factors. Concerns around the coalition were less evident than | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
in the campaign five years ago. Voters tend to vote on a myriad of | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
different issues and that is the same year in or near. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Thank you for speaking tours and congratulations again on being | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
re-elected. Let us hear from the other MSP confirmed. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
A number of enthusiastic supporters other MSP confirmed. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
behind you holding up cards spelling out your name. You are the first SNP | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
MSP for this area. What you put your success down to? | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
A lot of hard work. We have been very positive and are campaigning | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
and people like to hear a positive message. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
What will you bring to Holyrood? I am a mental health nurse and have | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
a strong trade gene background. I bring those unique qualities to | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Holyrood. What is important for many people I | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
suppose is that you have not been in politics before and you are a woman. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
How important are those two things as you go to Edinburgh? | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
I would hope that what I bring is a sense of what real life is like. I | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
am not any politics bubble. I know sense of what real life is like. I | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
how difficult real life can be for families and I hope I can bring some | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
compassion and some of the knowledge that I bring as a working mum to a | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
job as an MSP. Congratulations on your victory. It | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
has been a long night. I hope you managed to get some sleep. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Jansen would be a fine thing. We have two results with many more to | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
come. Let us cross to Aberdeen. There is an impasse in the count at | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the moment but early intelligence from the regional list vote is | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
showing the Conservatives doing very well. They could potentially take | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
four of the seven list seats in the North East. There are expecting to | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
be a strong second place in Kincardine. Some turn out figures | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
here, high 50s to early 60s. Early stages. First declaration is not | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
until at least 4:30am. Let us hear how do things are going | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
in the Borders. The big fight is between John land | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
and of the Conservatives and the SNP. I spoke to John earlier. He has | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
been around since 2007 and all those places cards close to his chest but | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
he almost, almost, tried to smile. Here's hoping that he would get the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
disappearing Lib Dem vote. We have got reporters across the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
country covering all the counts this evening. Let us pick up from Brian | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Taylor the results we have had so far. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
That Rutherglen result is a real stinker for Labour. On this | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
occasion, it appears to be signalling calamity for the Labour | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Party. It was one of the first | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
constituencies that Kezia Dugdale visited. It was sure that by all | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
sorts of efforts by the Labour Party so is a huge victory for the SNP. If | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
they are taking Rutherglen to that extent against a candidate as | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
hard-working and ingrained as James Kelly, there is trouble. I've heard | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
senior Labour people seeing throughout the campaign that people | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
did not know what we stood for. The court they had remedied that with | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the penny on income tax for public spending. Your hearing people | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
defending that tonight. It does not appear to have worked at this stage. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Labour strategists think it will work any have to give it more time | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
but it is going to be hard to get more time because the degree of | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
introspection and internal battling that will follow this defeat tonight | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
will be very substantial. Let us pick up with Professor Nicola | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
McCune. A good result in Orkney and comfortable for the Lib Dems but | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
what have you found? Simply that the reported swing which | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
was in the region of 16% was slightly misleading because of the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
presence of the independent candidate last time around. It does | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
seem that the Lib Dems have been successful in shoring up pretty much | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
all of that vote. Unfortunately, it will not make a difference to the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
overall share. It was a cold but it might aim that Jamie Stone will not | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
get a list seat in the Highlands and Islands because of the constituency | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
called. It balances out. That relationship between the two | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
will be very important. A quick word on turnout before we move on. It | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
seems that tonight seems to be up for a Hollywood election, albeit | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
considerably lower than for last year's general election. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
The law to float for a Scottish parliament election as normal. We | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
would also expect that an election in which it is perceived to be | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
something of a foregone conclusion, we would also expect that to lead to | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
a law promote. The fact that it is similar to 2011 is remarkable. It is | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
not reaching the heights of the referendum can vote, but it is very | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
impressive. We are going to speak to many of the politicians from around | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the country. At the moment, we can cross to Chris McLaughlin in Pearce, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
who has a couple of major figures from the Scottish National Party. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Those doing recounting here are on a break. We believe it will be back in | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
about ten minutes. Two constituencies here. To SNP | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
heavyweights here. They are in conversation at the moment. The | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
worked on the floor is that the Scottish National Party, not | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
surprisingly, are doing very well. They currently hold both of the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
seats. There is little suggestion that they are going to do any worse | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
than before. Both of them gained over half the vote last time. Liz | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Smith, one of the US MPs, last thing that was a swing in 2011 from the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Conservatives to the SNP, about 8% in both constituencies, the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Conservatives will hope they can claw some of that back. But all the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
indications are that the SNP are looking pretty safe in both of | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
these. There is something of an SNP 's swagger here. Similar to what we | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
were seen when the results of the general election where being | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
announced. We are expecting the declaration in just over one hour. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
We can know go to Dundee. Here in the sports centre of the two counts | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
are under way. Dundee East tonight raped and that the West to my left. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
I have a piece of paper and the tablet was 51% in Dundee East and | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
just slightly higher in Dundee West. The Scottish National Party with | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
something of a spring in your step here. We're pretty sure the two MSP | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
's will be returned. Joe Fitzpatrick, she is defending a | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
majority of 6500. Hope politics have changed in the city. At the first | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Scottish parliament elections in 1999, Labour won both of the seats | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
fairly comfortably. Worst year in the general election, the SNP | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
finally prised the Westminster seat from Dundee West out of the hands of | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Labour and that gave them a clean seat in the city. All four of the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Parliamentary constituencies are known under the control. I am | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
feeling that the labour vote here could be down. That is the picture | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
in Dundee at the moment. We can no go to Livingston. A very good | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
evening. We are in the heart of the Almond Valley constituency. Also, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Linlithgow is being counted, a historical town. There to MSP 's | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
which are well-known faces. Fair to say no big surprises expected here. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Both are expected to clearly regain the seat. A big issue here has been | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the possible downgrading of services for children at the local hospital. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the possible downgrading of services What will be interesting is looking | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
at the Labour fought. This used to be one of the heartlands. But the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Scottish National Party in the last decade have taken over. It will be | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
very interesting to see the Labour thought. But the conservative vote | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
will also be worth looking at as well. We are hoping to make games. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
We are expecting the declaration here from sometime after four | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
o'clock in the morning. If you took that Rutherglen result, the swing | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
from Labour to the SNP of 9%, if that was replicated across the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
country, of course, we do not know that was replicated across the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
that is going to happen and maybe that was replicated across the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
something else could happen. In fact, we can speak to our | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
correspondent in East Lothian. We are hearing that this is going to | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
be fairly closely fought. Eagerly, the former Labour leader in | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Holyrood, we saw him looking very downbeat in earlier. Iain Gray will | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
not be drawn on any definite result. You can see behind me it is pretty | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
quiet at the moment. They have allowed the staff to go off and have | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
a break and we'll have the finished verification of the papers to be | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
gathered throughout the county. But at the moment, we are hearing from | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
people in the Labour Party that the expecting a declaration around about | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
three o'clock. Ian Dooley was defending, but I cannot tell her | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
that he thinks he is going to win. Jackie is here with an update. The | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
first couple of results no one. The first was in Orkney. It was a horse | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
for the Liberal Democrats, with an enhanced majority for Liam McArthur. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
In Rutherglen, as expected and feared by Labour, the lost his seat | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
to the Scottish National Party with the 9% swing. Clare Haughey The | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
victor. But already the Labour Party are doing some soul-searching. There | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
is a real worry that our vote is going down and the conservative vote | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
is going up. There was talk that the 1983 Labour Party manifesto was the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
longest suicide note in her study, but if we bring that up to date, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
perhaps we are doing something likewise no. At this stage in the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
political cycle, the major opposition voting to flourish | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
against the government. Questions are no being asked of Jeremy Corbyn | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
's leadership. I think he needs to signpost the direction he wants to | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
take this Party in. I see two people at the, we need to have more time to | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
do that. He has got the mandate and we have to respect that. As I say, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
two seats declared in Scotland. The Liberal Democrats haunt Orkney and | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the Scottish National Party take Rutherglen. -- when Orkney. The | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
former leader of Glasgow City Council is with us. The story so | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
far, these two results. Maybe not a great deal we can read into that as | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
terms of the national picture. It is very early doors. But I am very | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
pleased for Clare Haughey, who is going to be a fantastic addition to | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the Scottish parliament. But we will see how things unfold as the night | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
goes on. Do you think this may be the beginning of a pattern of the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
SNP performance against Labour? Or are we more likely to get a mixed | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
bag, with suggestions Iain Gray may currently hold in East Lothian. I | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
think it is very early to see anything on with only a couple of | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
think it is very early to see results in. But the likes of Clare | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Haughey is a new candidate, which is something we were very keen to do. A | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
dose of 60% of those new candidates are women. Some worrying signals for | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Labour. It is a tough one. James has been a very effective member of the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Scottish Parliament and I think they have lost a good person near. But | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the people of spoken. I think there will be different patterns across | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
different parts of Scotland. There are a number of different issues. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
We have not actually talks about the referendum. One of the commentators, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
one of the Labour commentators, said it was the key issue in Scottish | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
politics. Are we going to have another one in the next five years? | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
It was clear that the Scottish National Party said in the campaign, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the rare mixed messages about it. Nicola Sturgeon has been very clear. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
At the end of the day, we are all Democrats. If it is the will of the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
people, we should not be ruling it out. But from Labour's perspective, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Kezia Dugdale has changed her position throughout that with regard | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
to whether she would support another referendum or not. But we fought | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
this campaign on the process of taking Scotland forward through the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Scottish Parliament in the next five years. And it is that manifesto for | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the next five years, focusing on health, jobs and taking the country | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
for work. If the Scottish National Party got an overall majority, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
without the something of a mandate for another referendum? A couple of | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
things to see, there is no mention in the SNP manifesto about another | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
independence referendum. If you want a serious mandate for that, you have | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
to put that in your manifesto. And we are already hearing that the are | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
thinking of trying to persuade the North waters of the need for another | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
referendum. This hall cycle is going to start again. It is only 20 months | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
since we had the worst one. It is 5% of the voting public can out to | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
vote. What does that mean? I would remain view of what you leader said, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
vote. What does that mean? I would there was the possibility of it | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
being asked once again. It is not the job of politicians. It is only | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
20 months ago. The people dictated that back then. The rates of the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
people in Scotland where exercise by that back then. The rates of the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
train. It is clear what the decision was. They have nothing in the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
manifesto about this. If she really believed that the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
people of Scotland need to have a referendum, she should have put it | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
in her manifesto. She at has no mandate and hasn't even asked for | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
it. There was a referendum in 2014. That | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
is the mandate. It is anti-democratic for Nicola Sturgeon | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
to be suggesting another referendum in the lifetime of Scotland. They | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
have been there a few clear and they do not want independence. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
What I can tell you is this the first time we have discussed it and | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
we are a few hours on to thank you all for that for the moment. Brian | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
has been looking into the prospects of the Tories. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
It has been a remarkable campaign in anyways. Just kicking back to the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
manifesto launch when Ruth Davidson didn't expect to win and would not | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
pretend she was about to take victory. The Conservative aim in | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
this collection has been to beat Labour to second place. They need to | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
hold onto the constituencies they have got and maximise their vote on | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
that list, the list that correct the imbalance is from the first time | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
around. Look at that unfamiliar figure topping the list. Ruth | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Davidson heading the list in Lothian. She is pretty certain to be | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
returned to Holyrood unless there are curious results to come. Yet at | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
this key strategy to build on the list with the leaflets promoting | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
party leader Ruth Davidson with limited mention of the word | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Conservative. Of course he counts and honest man. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Splendid chap. He is the sitting MSP there. The SNP seeking to take over | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
that constituency. Check Brodie was second last time. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
There is the new contender. This was Alex Fergusson's seat prior | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
to the former Presiding Officer standing down. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
A very tough contest there and intriguing. This was an SNP seat but | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
there has been Tory presence in the past as well. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
This next one has been a really fun seat. Jim Murphy ticket in | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Westminster then lost it. Ken Mackintosh is the MSP and resorted | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
to karaoke in order to hang onto seat. The suggestion was his song | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
could be return of the Mac. Jackson Carlaw could contend or could it be | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Stewart Maxwell for the SNP? That has been one amazing battle. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
No to some of those seats that Brian mentioned. Over to Dumfries first. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
The verification protest just about finishing so the proper account will | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
start soon. Two interesting and potentially close-run seats being | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
counted your tonight, one that aided by conservatives and won by Labour. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
The seat Brian was just talking about was won by Alex Fergusson by a | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
slim majority of 862 last time around from Aileen McLeod from the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
SNP. She was ultimately collected on the regional list and became | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Environment Minister in the last government. She is standing again. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
The Conservative contender is a rural IT consultant, Finley Carson. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
It looks like Ms McLeod has an advantage. Carson finished 6005 | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
votes high-end the nationalist winner but the caveat for that was | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
it was a high turnout. The boundaries for the Scottish | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
parliament seat are slightly different. That holds true in | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Dumfriesshire as well. It has been held since the parliament started in | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
1989 by Elaine Murray for Labour. Chances of holding on look slim. -- | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
1999. The 26-year-old son of Scottish Secretary David Mandel, who | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
is the MP of the area. Here's pacing the floor like an expectant father, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
wondering if his son will follow him as a parliamentarian. The answer is | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
almost certainly yes. The likelihood is that both will be returned | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
regardless of the first past the post result. We are expecting the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
two constituencies to declare post result. We are expecting the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
shortly after three o'clock with the list result coming about 7am. We can | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
now join our correspondent in Ayr. You join me at the leisure centre in | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Ayr for what is proving to be a fascinating tussle between the SNP | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
and the Tories. All the early indications are that it looks like a | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
two horse race in what is a Tory stronghold. This seat has been held | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
since 2000 by the conservative John Scott. Over the years, as support | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
for the SNP has a lot has been job at a has-been waffled down. In 2011 | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
he held the seat from the SNP by little over 1000 votes. He faces | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
stiff competition again from Jennifer Dunn from the SNP. Make the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
mistake, if the Tories are to achieve their stated goal of | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
becoming the second biggest party in the Scottish Parliament, this really | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
is a seat they must hold. We just had news of the healthy turnout. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
61%, up 7% from the 2011 number. We are expecting a declaration around | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
PAM. -- 3M. In the meantime, let us cross to | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Fiona in the Election Cafe. We have a mixture of spin doctors, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
bloggers and journalists. They have been reacting to the results as they | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
come in. We have also been talking about how much this campaign has | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
been about personalities and how much has it been about policies. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Wish me is Murray MacDonald, a former Tory candidate and came out | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
during the referendum campaign as a Yes vote. The head of the medication | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
is and is now a columnist for the Sunday Times. And journalist and | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
commentator Iain McWhirter. How would you split it up, personality | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
versus policy? There has been a lot of personality | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
and it is difficult for us to pay attention to the policy arguments. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Willie Rennie has been around the country focusing on stunts and I'm | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
never sure what he is focusing on when he does the stunts and Ruth | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Davidson has been doing similar. The key thing about Ruth Davidson is | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
harder argument has been about 40 or 40 strong opposition and she has | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
managed to put that into everything so from a communication point of | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
view she has done the right thing. For the SNP that has been about | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Nicola, re-elected Nicola. If he were advising the campaign, would | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
you have done the same thing? Definitely because she is seeking | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
her own mandate to become first earnest -- first-mac. She has been a | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Dost by party and Parliament so that is completely and stand above. The | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
other thing is that she is very policy focused. If you look at what | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
she said in this campaign, her mission is that she is closing the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
education gap. That is significant because some of the criticism of the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
SNP in the first term of office was try to get some of the low hanging | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
fruit. Things like prescription targets. But if you're talking about | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
closing the attainment gap then that is a multifaceted problem and a big | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
ambition. Yes, it is focused on Nicola the leader seeking her own | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
mandate to First Minister but she also saw as some ambitious policy | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
objectives. Is it down to the parties or the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
media to push the message? It is principally down to the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
parties. They no longer want daily briefings with the press. That gave | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
exhaustive examinations of policy. Parties would rather convey a | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
general impression rather than each of policy and because sturgeon has | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
been good at doing that. Ruth Davidson, even to the extent that | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
she's pretending not to be a party of her own party. I had leaflets | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
that hardly mention that she is a member of the Conservative Party. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
All the bold words -- billboards just say Ruth Davidson. There have | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
been substantial issues raised. Obviously taxation was good to be | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the pivot around which the selection was to return and Labour have moved | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
substantially to the left, trying to outflank the SNP. Interestingly, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
that didn't generate the amount of enthusiasm Labour expected it would | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
and toured the end of the campaign were downplaying it. That indicates | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
again that it is difficult. If the other parties are not playing ball, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
it is difficult to get these complex policy issues the examination they | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
deserve. If you want to get involved in the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
competition, use our hash tag on the screen. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
We will hear more from David Henderson in a moment. Letters bring | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
in our panel at this stage. We're hearing the result is imminent or | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
due fairly soon from Shetland. Another constituency with the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
due fairly soon from Shetland. Liberal Democrats are defending. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Anything else you're picking up from around the country that would tell | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
us something about the parties' likely performance on the mainland. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
I think the Shetland result is likely to be similar to the Orkney | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
one sort of looking encouraging in the islands. The great news for the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Liberal Democrats is that we seem to be coming back. We are looking for | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
good results in Edinburgh Western and North East Fife. It is possible | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
we could win the seat so we are competitive again. That is the big | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
contrast. The Liberal Democrats are going to back after last year and | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Labour are getting worse. It is good to be a good night for the Lib Dems. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
We are not there yet. A lot depends on what happens in the regional list | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
vote. I don't pick anybody knows what is happening there yet. But it | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
seems to be a positive evening for us. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
You're picking up some interesting news from the east would count, a | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
part of Scotland that used to always vote Tory but has been Labour for | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the past two decades. I think it might be a two horse race | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
between the Conservatives and the SNP with Ken Macintosh dropping out. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
That is what it looks like at the moment. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Just to underline, Ken Macintosh has been the MSP since 1999. That would | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
be remarkable change in the circumstances it is also interesting | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
that the Tories loaned their vote to Jim Murphy last year to stave off | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the SNP 's tsunami. There will be no tactical votes in | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
this election. Also, remember that Jackson Carlaw has put his heart and | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
soul into the constituency so if anyone deserves that reward in a | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
result it is the people of Eastwood and Jackson Carlaw. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
It is quite a remarkable constituency in near there are three | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
members of the Scottish Parliament last time round who are contesting | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
it. Clearly, there has been publicity, with regard to the large | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Jewish part of the constituency and the effect that the anti-Semitism | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
row within the Labour Party may have heard that the Party. I do not think | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
there is any doubt about that. We may be losing the seat tonight and | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
again, we need to learn the lessons of the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
results and look to the future and Steve what systems we need to put in | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
place to be dominant in Scottish politics again. People want Labour | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Party which is credible. We will speak more about your ideas on that | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
later. Would it surprise you if there was the Scottish National | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Party and conservative run-off in Eastwood? I think Stewart has fought | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Party and conservative run-off in a very good campaign. Obviously, we | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
took part of their constituency in a very good campaign. Obviously, we | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the general election last year saw we were confident that we would put | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
up a very good challenge year. we were confident that we would put | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
were a number of new faces at Westminster after the big landslide | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
breakthrough for the Scottish National Party. But what about those | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
who might be fresh faces in the Scottish Parliament. We can know | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
hear more on that from David Henderson. This is the starting | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
point for tonight 's results. You have the same view as the presiding | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
officer would have. At the moment, we will ignore the likes of retired | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
roles, defections or less. The Conservatives take up this blue | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
block with 15 seats. The Liberal Democrats have five. The other main | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
parties with three between them. But at the centre of power in the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
middle, the spec block of year low, the Scottish National Party, with | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
69. Over here, the Labour Party, with 37. The Conservatives have the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
eye on this price. They want to overtake Labour as the second Party | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
within the and move from that side over to here. They want to be the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
main opposition. We can only vote the chamber. After tonight, it will | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
look very different because 24 of the members of the Scottish | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Parliament have stood down. Among them, more | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
We bid farewell to Alex Salmond of well-known faces. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
We bid farewell to Alex Salmond of course. Kenny McAskill. Malcolm | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Chisholm and Duncan McNeil. And the outgoing presiding officer. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Saw crewmate replace them? Brian will tell us. You may have noticed a | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
few film references the, especially the sound of music. The producer is | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
a big fan of that. I think many of our politicians should follow the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
principles of Groucho Marx. Let us stick with the sound of music. Who | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
is going to taste champagne tonight. Annabel Goldie used to be elected | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
only top up for the West of Scotland. Jackson | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Carlaw Talks the conservative List for no. No sign of it. Any sign of | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
it? No, let us move on. This is the old Alex Salmond constituency. The | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
took almost two thirds of the vote were staying. He is not standing | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
listing. We have a new candidate and Gillian Martin is expected to have | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
another large majority. And Edinburgh East, Kenny McAskill. That | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
is where the Labour leader Kezia Dugdale astounding. Another new | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
face. We can shift back to the West of Scotland. Inverclyde. Duncan | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
McNeil seat for many years. The majority last time round was just | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
over 500. Can Labour hold off a challenge from Stuart McMillan of | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the nut Scottish National Party? Another new face coming in, with the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
presiding officer going out. Could it be Jenny Gilruthe? And remember, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
if you were 16 or 17 at the time of the referendum, you will be able to | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
vote for the first time tonight. This is the first thing you would be | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
able to vote in the Scottish election. We can go to Clarkston | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
know. We can hear more about Eastwood. We were talking about this | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
is a short while ago. Much of the talk a layer on about this suddenly | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
coming down to eat two horse race between the Scottish National Party | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
and the Conservative Party. That is looking to be true. There is little | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
confidence that Ken Mackintosh can hang onto this seat, which he had | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
tabled since 1990 name. If I was a betting man, I do not think I would | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
put my money on any of them! We think the declaration may be coming | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
slightly before half past two in the morning. But I do not know who's | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
slightly before half past two in the going to win! A very honest | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
assessment! A little bit of gossip. The Secretary of State for Scotland | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
is seeing he is confident the Conservatives will finish in second | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
place at the selection. They believe they will couple -- pick up a couple | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
of List seats in Glasgow. But Labour's number one candidate in | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the List system, the CVR confidently will themselves hang on for second | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
place. He said it was not the time to talk about change, with regard to | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the leadership within Scotland. He said everything has just be kept on | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
hold until all the results are in and the election is over. Willie | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Rennie, the leader of the Scottish Liberal Democrats. Gossip from his | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
constituency is that he is doing rather well. He thinks there is a | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
chance they could take that from the Scottish National Party. This is | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
gossip that we are picking up from those who are at the various | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
constituency counts. The actual results, we will of course bring you | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
as the evening progresses. We can now get a picture from Argyll | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Bute. Good evening. This is the second biggest | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
constituency in terms of land mass. Although it is a mainland | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
constituency, it includes 20 38 point communities. Many of the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
ballot boxes have to be brought here by helicopter. Kent is well under | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
ballot boxes have to be brought here way and we would not expect a result | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
before four o'clock in the morning and from past experience, it may | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
well be later. This seat is currently held by make Russell for | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the Scottish National Party, a government minister under Alex | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Salmond. He won the big majority last time and is likely to do so | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
again. It is believed the Conservatives are also doing well. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
It is believed this is being repeated across the country. Donald | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Cameron, the constituency committee may well get elected on the List | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
vote. The Labour Party does not have much | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
of the history of winning here. Only four candidates. A quick word from | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Brian Taylor. The Scottish National Party saying | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
it would be remarkable if they could achieve another overall majority, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
given the constituency and List system. It looks like being a | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
coordinate for the Labour Party, unless expectations change. There | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
could be reasons for that. We can no get the result from Hamilton, | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Larkhall and Stonehouse. I give notice of the following. The | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
electorate is 50 652. The total votes cast were 20 895. The | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
percentage of those who voted was 53%. The votes cast were as follows. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Scottish Liberal Democrats, 836. Margaret McCulloch, Scottish Labour | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Party, 8000, 5008. Christina McKelvie, Scottish | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
National Party, 13,000. Achieving. Margaret Mitchell, Scottish | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Conservative and Unionist Party, 5000, 590 six. 110 ballot papers | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
were rejected. I deeply about Christine McKelvie is elected. The | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Scottish National Party hold Hamilton, Larkhall and Stonehouse. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Christina McKelvie re-elected. 15,945 votes. Margaret McCulloch of | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
the Labour Party in second place, with 8508. The Conservatives in | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
third place, Margaret Mitchell. The term note 50%. The sheer of the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
vote, 48% to the Scottish National Party. 29% of the Labour Party 19% | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
to the Conservatives. He lives the comparison to five years ago. The | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Labour Party vote down 10%. The Conservatives the main | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
beneficiaries, up 9%. A swing of 5% from Labour to the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
SNP. A big boost to the Tory vote as well in that Lanarkshire | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
constituency, which may be an indicator we want to pick up on. | 3:36:38 | 3:36:37 | |
Let us hear from the | 3:36:38 | 3:36:38 |