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conditions. Mind you, it all adds up to the annual intrigue that is the | :00:00. | :00:16. | |
Masters. in a courtroom in Pretoria. Another | :00:17. | :00:16. | |
session in a courtroom in Pretoria. Another | :00:17. | :02:40. | |
millions of viewers. Today the prosecution asked Oscar Pistorius | :02:41. | :02:40. | |
why he prosecution asked Oscar Pistorius | :02:41. | :02:46. | |
coming from the bathroom. When you heard the narcs you | :02:47. | :02:56. | |
coming from the bathroom. When you discuss the noise with her. You | :02:57. | :02:56. | |
didn't say "Reeva did discuss the noise with her. You | :02:57. | :03:16. | |
not. Viewers are left with pictures broadcast instead of the images of | :03:17. | :03:16. | |
him. broadcast instead of the images of | :03:17. | :03:22. | |
feel unfamiliar and uncomfortable. But audience interest is high. The | :03:23. | :03:29. | |
BBC has been showing live testimony every day, as has Sky which has | :03:30. | :03:33. | |
broadcast an evening highlights programme. Foreign news, in general, | :03:34. | :03:38. | |
tends to attract lower ratings, but the mix of celebrity and dramatic | :03:39. | :03:42. | |
court footage has made this one of the few exceptions. | :03:43. | :03:46. | |
The first case to get this global exposure involved another sportsman. | :03:47. | :03:53. | |
The OJ Simpson trial made stars of the lawyers involved. The gloves | :03:54. | :03:57. | |
don't fit, do you understand that, don't fit. We have seen the | :03:58. | :04:04. | |
televised soap opera that was the Amanda Knox trial. And in the Hague | :04:05. | :04:08. | |
the conviction of Charles Taylor, but that also involves an element of | :04:09. | :04:15. | |
celebrity at times. The man questioning Naomi Campbell in that | :04:16. | :04:19. | |
courtroom said it is inevitable that fully televised trials will one day | :04:20. | :04:24. | |
reach our shores. I think it is a very good idea. One has to realise | :04:25. | :04:27. | |
that the courtroom in a sense belongs to the public at large. The | :04:28. | :04:33. | |
jury are there as our representatives, and it seems to me | :04:34. | :04:37. | |
that it is important that the public see how the process operates, I | :04:38. | :04:42. | |
think it is important in democratic society that the law is seen in | :04:43. | :04:47. | |
operation to its full extent. And not just the snippets which are | :04:48. | :04:52. | |
currently available in the press or on the 6.00 News. So far attempted | :04:53. | :04:58. | |
to film inside British courts have been very limited. The outcome of | :04:59. | :05:03. | |
cases at the Supreme Court and some limited Appeal Court sessions have | :05:04. | :05:07. | |
been shown, but this is hardly the OJ Simpson trial. The kind of dry | :05:08. | :05:12. | |
judgments and verdicts shown in courts like this one are, let's face | :05:13. | :05:17. | |
it, never going to be a huge box-office attraction, it is clearly | :05:18. | :05:20. | |
large criminal trials, like the Pistorius case, which broadcasters | :05:21. | :05:26. | |
would dearly love to see on screen. We are starting to see that happen. | :05:27. | :05:29. | |
Last year cameras were allowed inside a murder trial for the first | :05:30. | :05:33. | |
time in Edinburgh, where Scottish law leaves the decision to film up | :05:34. | :05:37. | |
to the judge. Under plans for England and Wales the judge's | :05:38. | :05:44. | |
sentencing remarks could be filmed, many barristers are wary of going | :05:45. | :05:48. | |
any further. The public will get to see select pieces of the trial, bits | :05:49. | :05:54. | |
and pieces that are salacious, that shows who broadcast want to focus | :05:55. | :05:57. | |
on. They will get a selective idea of the trial, if we're not careful | :05:58. | :06:01. | |
we are going to find there is going to be trial by public and in days of | :06:02. | :06:07. | |
social media the storm that can create from an imbalanced view of | :06:08. | :06:11. | |
the trial might infect the justice system. An example of transparent | :06:12. | :06:17. | |
justice, or a media circus, the Pistorius trial shows there is a | :06:18. | :06:20. | |
huge appetite for this time of reality television. Whether it is a | :06:21. | :06:25. | |
healthy appetite is another matter. With us now is the barrister and | :06:26. | :06:30. | |
presenter, Clive Anderson, who is in favour of cameras in court. And | :06:31. | :06:34. | |
Julian Young a solicitor advocate who thinks they turn courtrooms into | :06:35. | :06:39. | |
a circus. There is a circus in the Pistorius case as an example, do you | :06:40. | :06:43. | |
really want to see that kind of thing in this country? Yes, it is a | :06:44. | :06:47. | |
gripping but grizzly trial, I would like to see how the trial is going | :06:48. | :06:51. | |
on. At the end of the case there will be a decision and verdict. In | :06:52. | :06:54. | |
this case it is a judge with her two assessors, in an English trial it | :06:55. | :06:58. | |
would be woo likely to be -- would likely to be a jury. We would like a | :06:59. | :07:08. | |
notion will have we would agree with it or justice. What is so wrong with | :07:09. | :07:17. | |
it? It sensationalises and trivialises something where a person | :07:18. | :07:19. | |
could lose their liberty or good name. Even if they are acquitted the | :07:20. | :07:24. | |
idea of no smoke without fire, if whoever watches it sees the | :07:25. | :07:27. | |
highlights and decides I think he's guilty and it doesn't matter what | :07:28. | :07:31. | |
the jury thought, and goes out and tries to exact revenge. There are | :07:32. | :07:35. | |
people who are vulnerable. Witnesses who have never given evidence before | :07:36. | :07:37. | |
who don't want to give evidence. There are people who may want to | :07:38. | :07:42. | |
grandstand, they could be lawyers, a judge, or the defendant or the | :07:43. | :07:47. | |
defendant's friends in the public gallery, to cut that off | :07:48. | :07:50. | |
unexpectedly gives a false impression of what is really going | :07:51. | :07:56. | |
on. In a sense what we already see in the newspapers and reports, they | :07:57. | :07:59. | |
are already an edited version of what has happened. What would be so | :08:00. | :08:03. | |
different about this perhaps it would be better because people will | :08:04. | :08:06. | |
be able to watch proceedings live and uncut? Who wants to sit and | :08:07. | :08:12. | |
watch, for example, an expert give evidence, highly technical evidence, | :08:13. | :08:15. | |
maybe for several hours and be cross-examined, it doesn't tell you | :08:16. | :08:19. | |
how the system works, the standard of proof, the burden of proof, the | :08:20. | :08:23. | |
responsibility of the judge and the jury. It would be so boring. That | :08:24. | :08:30. | |
bit doesn't tell you but the rest of it does. Juries go along -- jurors | :08:31. | :08:35. | |
go along thinking it is like trials in American films, there will be | :08:36. | :08:38. | |
advocates walking up and down asking questions, there will be objections | :08:39. | :08:42. | |
sustained, at the very least you might concede this will be an | :08:43. | :08:47. | |
educative process for potential jurors to see how the courtrooms | :08:48. | :08:50. | |
work. You can have education as a mock trial and education for | :08:51. | :08:53. | |
children in schools about what happens to a Crown Court. You do | :08:54. | :08:56. | |
mock trials but you show it to dozens of people at a time, this is | :08:57. | :09:01. | |
for millions of people to see. They will not see what is actually | :09:02. | :09:03. | |
happening all the time, they don't sit from a whole period of time from | :09:04. | :09:12. | |
10-1, from 2-4. 30, from beginning to end, they would be bored out of | :09:13. | :09:18. | |
their minds. Can I raise a point about televising parliament, from | :09:19. | :09:23. | |
1975 they put radio microphones into the House of Lords, it took until | :09:24. | :09:28. | |
1990s for the House of Commons to say OK. Young viewers must be | :09:29. | :09:33. | |
thinking not having cameras in parliament, you mean Prime | :09:34. | :09:38. | |
Minister's Question Time went on without the public. All these same | :09:39. | :09:40. | |
questions were raised about parliament. How many people watch | :09:41. | :09:46. | |
BBC Parliament, relatively view. Many, many people it could be, but | :09:47. | :09:49. | |
there is a very important point, does it not risk people changing | :09:50. | :09:54. | |
their behaviour in a way that politicians change their behaviour | :09:55. | :09:57. | |
when there is a camera around. People all behave differently when | :09:58. | :10:01. | |
there are cameras around. Couldn't that affect the outcome of the case? | :10:02. | :10:05. | |
There is a point there. Those things were said about MPs in parents I | :10:06. | :10:09. | |
don't think anybody can now say whether MPs' behaviour has got | :10:10. | :10:10. | |
better or worse. This is the justice system not rowdy | :10:11. | :10:21. | |
debate. Lots of other countries do this. Louis Woodward was an English | :10:22. | :10:28. | |
nanny on trial in America, Boston, Massachusetts, there was some doubts | :10:29. | :10:31. | |
about how fair the trial was. As a result there was a lot of interest. | :10:32. | :10:35. | |
If she had been on trial in Boston Lincolnshire we would have never | :10:36. | :10:39. | |
have seen it or had the interest, and she would have spent rather | :10:40. | :10:43. | |
longer in prison than she had to. Would you say that an American case | :10:44. | :10:48. | |
like that, or in the South African justice system, would you contend | :10:49. | :10:53. | |
their systems don't work or are as good as our's because they have | :10:54. | :10:56. | |
allowed a camera in? It is whether or not you can educate the public | :10:57. | :10:59. | |
what are you going to tell and teach them. And the dangers that may flow | :11:00. | :11:02. | |
from the public seeing something. Lith let's take a defendant who has | :11:03. | :11:07. | |
a difficult personal -- let's take a defendant who has a very difficult | :11:08. | :11:11. | |
personal life, the young Mr kiss President Chiracs he has social | :11:12. | :11:14. | |
disadvantages and he's disabled, if other inmates in a prison got to | :11:15. | :11:18. | |
watch that on television and realise he's weak f he's convicted and sent | :11:19. | :11:22. | |
to prison, especially in this country where prisoners are quite | :11:23. | :11:26. | |
often very cruel, the danger would be they would pick upon that person, | :11:27. | :11:29. | |
having been put into the prison system. Are you just not rummaging | :11:30. | :11:35. | |
around for reasons not to make a change. I'm frightened of "Legal | :11:36. | :11:43. | |
Idol" a television spectacle, where you can vote for a guilty or not | :11:44. | :11:46. | |
guilty verdict. I don't think that is appropriate, the judge and the | :11:47. | :11:49. | |
jury will still take the decision, it is just, it is are a public place | :11:50. | :11:53. | |
a courtroom, as it is there is a public gallery, if people want to | :11:54. | :11:56. | |
interfere with witnesses or find out about defendants they can be there | :11:57. | :11:59. | |
any way. It is reported in the papers. If they are that interested | :12:00. | :12:03. | |
they can go to court and watch the real thing without it being | :12:04. | :12:08. | |
televised. Television is not real. It is in another dimension. It is a | :12:09. | :12:12. | |
bit more immediate than waiting for Clive Coleman to come out on to the | :12:13. | :12:16. | |
street and say there was nasty question asked there and there was | :12:17. | :12:19. | |
hesitation. We want to see the actual process. Just very briefly to | :12:20. | :12:24. | |
both of you. Do you think, given the way the flow of information is | :12:25. | :12:27. | |
speeding up all the time, anybody walking down the street with a | :12:28. | :12:30. | |
smartphone can take a picture and tweet what they like about who they | :12:31. | :12:34. | |
see outside the Old Bailey or anywhere else, do you think actually | :12:35. | :12:37. | |
you will be able to hold the line, this is going to happen one day | :12:38. | :12:41. | |
isn't it? It may happen one day, but there will have to be a lot of | :12:42. | :12:44. | |
checks and balances to make sure it is completely fair and there are no | :12:45. | :12:48. | |
dangers to the concept of justice. I think it will happen one day and in | :12:49. | :12:52. | |
ten years' time we will play back this conversation and think how | :12:53. | :12:56. | |
backward-looking I was, you can tweet from court now, has allowed | :12:57. | :13:01. | |
ahead of televising it. We will keep care of this tape of this discussion | :13:02. | :13:04. | |
tonight and have a look in a decade's time. Thank you very much | :13:05. | :13:07. | |
for coming in. More official diplomatic wrangling | :13:08. | :13:10. | |
is planned for Ukraine. The European Union confirmed in the last few | :13:11. | :13:13. | |
hours there will be a meeting between Russia, Ukraine, the United | :13:14. | :13:17. | |
States and the EU in Geneva next Thursday. But talking hasn't exactly | :13:18. | :13:24. | |
done much so far. NATO nowadays 40,000 Russian troops have been | :13:25. | :13:29. | |
moved to Ukraine's borders. Its secretary-general, has urged Russia | :13:30. | :13:39. | |
to pull back. I think it should be that Russia pulls back its troops | :13:40. | :13:48. | |
and contributes to a de-escalation of the situation. Our diplomatic | :13:49. | :13:55. | |
editor is with us now. What evidence has NATO got for the troops all | :13:56. | :13:59. | |
massing up on the boarder in a rather menacing way? It has been | :14:00. | :14:03. | |
going on for a few weeks. There have been open source things in the | :14:04. | :14:09. | |
Russian media. But the latest is the release of these pictures. NATO has | :14:10. | :14:12. | |
got these from commercial satellites, it is not the American | :14:13. | :14:17. | |
big bird that looks down. These are commercial low-operated -- | :14:18. | :14:22. | |
commercial low-operated satellites, they have shown a picture of an | :14:23. | :14:27. | |
airfield to the north-east of ucreate. You look at that and think | :14:28. | :14:31. | |
you can't see much there. If you go right in on the boxed areas | :14:32. | :14:36. | |
highlight bid the NATO analyst, you can see on the left of frame the | :14:37. | :14:41. | |
darker shapes, the fighters, on the right the lighter shapes the | :14:42. | :14:46. | |
bombers. NATO said there was no planes at all at this airfield a few | :14:47. | :14:50. | |
months ago before the crisis blew up. Another example, what NATO says | :14:51. | :14:58. | |
is a Russian motor rifle regiment, that is several thousand men. You | :14:59. | :15:02. | |
can see the armoureded vehicles neatly lined up on the left of frame | :15:03. | :15:07. | |
and long lines of trucks and other so called B-vehicles on the right. | :15:08. | :15:11. | |
Russia said the pictures were taken months ago. NATO has counted, anyone | :15:12. | :15:15. | |
can look at this commercial eptity, digital globe and look at these | :15:16. | :15:19. | |
pictures for themselves and establish when they were taken. It | :15:20. | :15:22. | |
shows the difficulties of using intelligence evidence to make a | :15:23. | :15:25. | |
political case. Absolutely, should we be alarmed by seeing these images | :15:26. | :15:29. | |
and now there are going to be more talks, what can we expect to happen | :15:30. | :15:32. | |
next? I think interestingly we have seen statements today from Sergei | :15:33. | :15:38. | |
Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister and the acting Prime Minister of | :15:39. | :15:42. | |
Ukraine that show the two sides squaring up before these talks. We | :15:43. | :15:47. | |
get a pretty clear idea now that Russia's agenda is to get this | :15:48. | :15:51. | |
interim Ukrainian Government to agree to constitutional changes that | :15:52. | :15:56. | |
will give this area where the pro--Putin, Russian demonstrators in | :15:57. | :16:00. | |
the east and south of Ukraine have taken buildings and steps, it will | :16:01. | :16:06. | |
give them considerable autonomy. The Russian agenda before the elections | :16:07. | :16:10. | |
plan for May 25th is lock in constitutional change to give those | :16:11. | :16:17. | |
areas a veto over any area closer to the EU or NATO. | :16:18. | :16:21. | |
Thank you very much indeed. Now the world's biggest election looks | :16:22. | :16:25. | |
likely to be won by a politician who boasts of a humble small town | :16:26. | :16:33. | |
background. He's the favourite to beat the latest son of the Gandhi | :16:34. | :16:39. | |
dynasty. His own history is hardly without question. He was in charge | :16:40. | :16:50. | |
of gut Gujarat province after 1,000 Muslims were killed. Although it was | :16:51. | :16:54. | |
not proven he looked the other way, many have warned against him taking | :16:55. | :17:04. | |
charge. India, the world's largest democracy and home to more than one. | :17:05. | :17:09. | |
Two billion people. It is one of the fastest-growing economies in the | :17:10. | :17:13. | |
world. Yet 400 million people live on less than a pound a day. It is | :17:14. | :17:19. | |
sending missions to Mars, whilst a quarter of households in the capital | :17:20. | :17:27. | |
don't have a regular water supply. It is a nuclear-armed major | :17:28. | :17:31. | |
political player. Predicted to be the world's third-largest economy by | :17:32. | :17:38. | |
2030. That is a why who leads this country is so important. If you | :17:39. | :17:46. | |
believe the polls so far this is likely to be the country's next | :17:47. | :17:54. | |
leader. The deeply controversial and devisive, head of the BJP. He's | :17:55. | :18:06. | |
credited with turning around the economy in his area, and given rise | :18:07. | :18:11. | |
to Modi mania. He's the man many hold responsible of allowing the | :18:12. | :18:16. | |
massacre of 1,000 people, mostly Muslim, in riots in Gujarat in 2002. | :18:17. | :18:22. | |
They started after a fire broke out on a train carrying Hindu pilgrim, | :18:23. | :18:28. | |
killing 60 people. Local Muslims were blamed and Hindus caught | :18:29. | :18:33. | |
revenge. He stands accused of failing to stop the bloodshed and | :18:34. | :18:38. | |
even encouraging the violence. He's always denied the claims and an | :18:39. | :18:42. | |
investigation cleared him. What happens in India is also being | :18:43. | :18:47. | |
keenly watched by the one. Four million British Indians living here | :18:48. | :18:51. | |
in the UK. He remains as controversial here as he does in | :18:52. | :18:55. | |
India. Writing in today's Guardian, well known British Indians like | :18:56. | :19:01. | |
Salman Rushdie, have said an India under him would be bad news for all | :19:02. | :19:06. | |
Indians. But after ten years of rule by a weakened Congress Party, voters | :19:07. | :19:12. | |
are ready for a change. His supporters say an India with him at | :19:13. | :19:18. | |
the helm would mean a stronger, more decisive and economically robust | :19:19. | :19:23. | |
potential superpower. If he comes to power, it will be a right-ward shift | :19:24. | :19:28. | |
in the politics of the country. That's very, very clear. That is why | :19:29. | :19:34. | |
corporate India is totally backing him. We may well have a Government | :19:35. | :19:40. | |
that will want to open up the economy, maybe much more than it has | :19:41. | :19:46. | |
and invite foreign direct investment, maybe it will mean more | :19:47. | :19:49. | |
political stability than we have seen in the last four or five years. | :19:50. | :19:56. | |
The key question for many Indians is whether he will be able to unite | :19:57. | :20:01. | |
this hugely diverse country, and make the most of its enormous | :20:02. | :20:10. | |
economic potential. With us now is the chairman of Cobra beer speaking | :20:11. | :20:16. | |
to us from India. With us in the studio is a member of the Black | :20:17. | :20:21. | |
Sisters, one of the signatories for a letter of many cultural and | :20:22. | :20:26. | |
artistic figures raising concerns about the man. Thank you for joining | :20:27. | :20:32. | |
us. Even here in Britain many people are concerned about Modi as being a | :20:33. | :20:39. | |
devisive figure. You can't deny he could potentially divide the | :20:40. | :20:50. | |
country, can you? We are witnessing the world's largest directions, 800 | :20:51. | :20:55. | |
million voters, we went to a polling station and I saw electronic voting | :20:56. | :20:59. | |
that we don't have in the UK, working brilliantly, and it is the | :21:00. | :21:04. | |
Indian population engaging, there are turnouts in India of 66%, 67%, | :21:05. | :21:11. | |
it was absolutely marvellous to see democracy in action. Indian | :21:12. | :21:15. | |
democracy has worked in the past. When the BJP were in Government in | :21:16. | :21:20. | |
2004, it was the India Shining Government, they created a lot of | :21:21. | :21:23. | |
economic reforms, but they were not able to get re-elected and the | :21:24. | :21:26. | |
Congress Party had been in Government for the past ten years. | :21:27. | :21:30. | |
Now there seems to be a sentiment on the ground here in India that people | :21:31. | :21:36. | |
want change and overall whoever I talk to there seems to be a | :21:37. | :21:41. | |
consensus that Modi is most probably going to be the Prime Minister with | :21:42. | :21:46. | |
the BJP possibly getting over 200 seats and with their Alliance | :21:47. | :21:53. | |
partners getting over the 272 required to form a majority | :21:54. | :21:57. | |
Government. It does seem as if he will be the next leader of the | :21:58. | :22:01. | |
country. But he is devisive, there are suspicions about whether he | :22:02. | :22:05. | |
looked the other way when those terrible riots in gunge Gujarat took | :22:06. | :22:11. | |
place, do you accept there are concerns about his record? There is | :22:12. | :22:17. | |
no question that he was very soon after he took over as chief minister | :22:18. | :22:22. | |
of Gujarat, where he has been elected three times, soon after he | :22:23. | :22:27. | |
became chief minister these awful, awful atrocities took place, which | :22:28. | :22:31. | |
didn't just shock India but the world. Overall these years, over ten | :22:32. | :22:38. | |
years, when his opponents have been in power, has not been convicted and | :22:39. | :22:42. | |
Britain did not have relations with Gujarat as the founding chair of the | :22:43. | :22:46. | |
UK Business Council, I was not allowed to take delegations to | :22:47. | :22:51. | |
Gujarat. In 2012 Britain decided to reopen its links with Gujarat | :22:52. | :22:57. | |
through the British Foreign Minister Hugo Swire, since 2012 we have had | :22:58. | :23:05. | |
relations with him because he has not been convicted of anything. The | :23:06. | :23:09. | |
courts have looked at it and it looks like he will win fairly and | :23:10. | :23:15. | |
squarely in a vast exercise of democracy? I think he will be very, | :23:16. | :23:21. | |
very dangerous, he poses a serious threat to the secular fabric of | :23:22. | :23:25. | |
Indian democracy. The very democracy that Lord Villimoria praises for | :23:26. | :23:33. | |
functions is the very democracy that he poses a threat to. He and his RSS | :23:34. | :23:41. | |
and his Hindu right, nationalist, supremacist party that he belongs to | :23:42. | :23:45. | |
pose a real threat because of the very ideolgical framework from which | :23:46. | :23:51. | |
they operate. This idea that we can praise Indian democracy for | :23:52. | :23:55. | |
functioning without looking at where the threats to that democracy is | :23:56. | :24:02. | |
coming from is simply niave What is it, you say his ideas are a threat, | :24:03. | :24:07. | |
which ideas and why? He was shaped and nutured by the RSS, which is a | :24:08. | :24:12. | |
right-wing extremist Hindu supremacist party. A party whose | :24:13. | :24:24. | |
members have actually admired German and Italian fascism, and those who | :24:25. | :24:34. | |
assassinated Gandhi. The people who founded India had a vision of India | :24:35. | :24:40. | |
as an incluesive, plural democracy and this is the very ideas that Moi | :24:41. | :24:48. | |
and his aides, and his Hindu cohorts and aides are trying to destroy. | :24:49. | :24:52. | |
They hide behind this idea that he has presided over an economic | :24:53. | :24:57. | |
miracle in Gujarat, that is simply not true. Those are strong | :24:58. | :25:00. | |
accusations to make about him. But many people do appear to have | :25:01. | :25:06. | |
concerns about his views, will the British Government, should the | :25:07. | :25:12. | |
British Government turn a blind eye to those concerns with regard to | :25:13. | :25:19. | |
important trade with India? I don't think anyone is turning a blind eye, | :25:20. | :25:24. | |
I think that where he's concerned and the BJP they will look back to | :25:25. | :25:27. | |
that time when they were in Government ten years ago and they | :25:28. | :25:31. | |
were not re-elected because it was seen they were not being inclusive | :25:32. | :25:34. | |
enough with their policies, the India Shining, getting on to the | :25:35. | :25:39. | |
growth path, and I require the growth rates hitting 8%. But unless | :25:40. | :25:44. | |
it reached out and was inclusive they didn't get elected. The party | :25:45. | :25:47. | |
in January, a party that didn't exist a year ago got elected to run | :25:48. | :25:53. | |
the City of Delhi, the capital of India. It didn't last very long | :25:54. | :25:58. | |
because it was unable to deliver. So Mohdi will be judged if he becomes | :25:59. | :26:01. | |
Prime Minister on his ability to deliver. India is a secular and | :26:02. | :26:14. | |
plurist country. Nobody can run it without recognising it is a secular | :26:15. | :26:19. | |
country. It will be governance on the ground and excuse of the | :26:20. | :26:22. | |
governance, that is what he will be judged off. He says he is man of | :26:23. | :26:27. | |
action and he will encourage business and investment. The Gujarat | :26:28. | :26:31. | |
community in the UK is a very important part of the UK. The Indian | :26:32. | :26:36. | |
community in the UK contributes a huge amount to the UK economy. If it | :26:37. | :26:40. | |
is good news for the UK and India and good economic news that will | :26:41. | :26:50. | |
benefit both countries. We have been beaten by the clock, we must leave | :26:51. | :26:55. | |
it there. Perhaps when I'm famous and my diary is discovered, people | :26:56. | :26:59. | |
will understand the torment of being a 13 and three quarter-year-old | :27:00. | :27:05. | |
undiscovered intellectual. Adrian Mol, he's fictional -- Mole's | :27:06. | :27:12. | |
fictional diary was discovered and made its author, Sue Townend a | :27:13. | :27:20. | |
fortune. She passed away yesterday. The spirit of 1980s suburban England | :27:21. | :27:24. | |
leapt from her page, captured with a sometimes touching but often spiky | :27:25. | :27:29. | |
accuracy. This report has been compiled by Stephen Smith, aged 39 | :27:30. | :27:41. | |
plus VAT! Just my luck. Spots on my chin for the first day of the new | :27:42. | :27:47. | |
year. He counts his spots in front of the mirror, he keeps a chart. A | :27:48. | :27:52. | |
spot chart. Sort of a record! He measures his ears with his geometry | :27:53. | :27:57. | |
set to see how far they are sticking out this week. Measures other things | :27:58. | :28:01. | |
as well? He does, that are below the belt, yes. There is a new girl in | :28:02. | :28:07. | |
our council tax she sits next to me in geography, she's all right. Her | :28:08. | :28:12. | |
name is Pandora, but she likes to be called Bogs. Don't ask me why. | :28:13. | :28:21. | |
Adrian Mole was the hugist thing when I was younger, and every single | :28:22. | :28:26. | |
person I have ever met has read it as well, they have had all had the | :28:27. | :28:30. | |
same reaction, and it is like oh my God I'm Adrian Mole, I think I'm | :28:31. | :28:34. | |
better than anybody else here, I have a destiny outside this estate, | :28:35. | :28:38. | |
I see through grown-ups and what they are. She was born in 1946, she | :28:39. | :28:46. | |
left school at 15, she married, had three kid, she was authentic. There | :28:47. | :28:48. | |
is something she said that always struck me, she said "I am | :28:49. | :28:56. | |
working-class". No matter how many Prada handbags she had, she would | :28:57. | :29:01. | |
never forget what it was to be poor. She was poor. "I was given a glass | :29:02. | :29:10. | |
of Bulls Wood wine and felt a grown up, I talked like a consumate | :29:11. | :29:16. | |
professional for an hour and then my mother talked about a sniff of a | :29:17. | :29:21. | |
cork". For ages I thought I could only write a book about feminism if | :29:22. | :29:25. | |
I sit at the writing desk assay all the right words and do all the | :29:26. | :29:31. | |
research. When I realised hi to -- I had to tell the story from a dick | :29:32. | :29:35. | |
ebb teenage girl that book wrote itself. And the voice of me is How | :29:36. | :29:41. | |
To Be A woman, is just Adrian Mole with at this times. One day I was | :29:42. | :29:44. | |
sitting with one of my daughters watching the tele, and there was | :29:45. | :29:50. | |
Mole, and the news item was the new cabinet, Thatcher's new cabinet and | :29:51. | :29:56. | |
there was John Major! I thought I laughed and said that is Mole. To me | :29:57. | :30:00. | |
Adrian Mole ended up running the country. "I have lived under Tory | :30:01. | :30:08. | |
rule for most of my life, as dawn breaks, I predict that new Labour | :30:09. | :30:13. | |
will scrape in with a tiny majority, possibly three." The Cappuccino | :30:14. | :30:24. | |
Years about Mole at 30-and-a-half, and new Labour have just come to the | :30:25. | :30:33. | |
power. The Cappuccino Years a metaphor for new Labour, a lot of | :30:34. | :30:37. | |
froth and not much coffee. She was also rather good at sex. I think | :30:38. | :30:45. | |
Pandora is Helen of Troy who ended up as a Blair babe. Those touches | :30:46. | :30:52. | |
are really very delicate, people will turn back and see a social | :30:53. | :30:57. | |
historical register. Tony Blair is dedicated to the principle of | :30:58. | :31:01. | |
women's rights and the representation of women in top jobs | :31:02. | :31:05. | |
in and out of politics. You know perfectly well it will be jobs for | :31:06. | :31:13. | |
the boys as usual. Not if I can help it Jeremy! That is the most sexually | :31:14. | :31:18. | |
arousing thing I have seen on television, since Barbarap Windsor | :31:19. | :31:24. | |
lost her bra in Carry On Camping. People talk about the classic novels | :31:25. | :31:29. | |
of the 1980s and Martin Amis, money, and that is the classic British | :31:30. | :31:33. | |
novel I think the classic novel was written by a single mum who didn't | :31:34. | :31:37. | |
go to university, and it is Adrian Mole, everything you need to know | :31:38. | :31:41. | |
about Britain at that time. Flannel we hope you don't have to change the | :31:42. | :31:49. | |
plans for the weekend. Reports have come in that schools are ending the | :31:50. | :31:54. | |
practice of letting the children take home the bear at the weekend, | :31:55. | :31:59. | |
because of parents vying to show the bear the most sophisticated time. By | :32:00. | :32:02. | |
chance it was Newsnight's chance to look after a bear at the weekend, we | :32:03. | :32:07. | |
wouldn't dream of trying to outdo anyone, I bet your weekend isn't as | :32:08. | :32:10. | |
good as this. Getting cold out there largely clear | :32:11. | :32:53. | |
skies across England and | :32:54. | :32:54. |