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a Newsnight exclusive. We reveal the man who sent Obama to the White | :00:10. | :00:17. | |
House twice has been hired to work his magic on Ed Miliband. What | :00:18. | :00:21. | |
chance the American campaign guru David Axelrod | :00:22. | :00:26. | |
what chance the campaign Guru David Axelrod can make a winner? They are | :00:27. | :00:37. | |
trying to support their families and retire with dignity. Frank Luntz, | :00:38. | :00:41. | |
the top American pollster, and political commentator Rachel | :00:42. | :00:43. | |
Sylvester discuss the star hiring - and the size of the task. | :00:44. | :00:50. | |
After days of this in eastern Ukraine, will the deal in Geneva | :00:51. | :01:00. | |
help? She's the most successful far right | :01:01. | :01:05. | |
leader in Europe and she tells Newsnight she still wants to court | :01:06. | :01:06. | |
Nigel Farage for her team. And the Nobel prize-winning novelist | :01:07. | :01:20. | |
Gabriel Garcia Marquez has died. We reflect on his life. | :01:21. | :01:28. | |
Good evening. It is a star signing. We can exclusively reveal that Ed | :01:29. | :01:36. | |
Miliband has put his faith in the American campaign strategist David | :01:37. | :01:39. | |
Axelrod to get him into Downing Street. He must have worked in | :01:40. | :01:44. | |
number on him because last year, Axelrod, who started his career | :01:45. | :01:48. | |
campaigning for Robert F Kennedy when he was 13, apparently said his | :01:49. | :01:53. | |
role as Obama's chief campaign strategist would be his final role. | :01:54. | :01:59. | |
So Axelrod makes a royal flush. The Conservatives have Lynton Crosby be | :02:00. | :02:11. | |
and. To help with the significant task of | :02:12. | :02:25. | |
convincing the public hears a winner, enter the man who propelled | :02:26. | :02:32. | |
Obama to use presidential home. Who? The master strategist behind the box | :02:33. | :02:39. | |
office appearances. Don't be fooled that David Axelrod always appears on | :02:40. | :02:44. | |
the edge of the frame. In both of Balmer's presidential races, he was | :02:45. | :02:47. | |
central even though he ended up being the butt of the old joke. So | :02:48. | :02:53. | |
my advisers have switched over to the dark side. David Axelrod works | :02:54. | :03:00. | |
for MS NBC which is a nice change of pace because they used to work for | :03:01. | :03:06. | |
David Axelrod. But why would he want to go from this to having a shot at | :03:07. | :03:13. | |
this? He has been taking calls from Ed Miliband since the summer and | :03:14. | :03:20. | |
with arm-twisting from Douglas Alexander, he was persuaded to sign | :03:21. | :03:25. | |
up. As the man himself explained in a carefully prepared clip. I think a | :03:26. | :03:31. | |
candidate is a winner who speaks to the lives of the people they are | :03:32. | :03:37. | |
running to represent. Ed Miliband understands the struggle that people | :03:38. | :03:41. | |
are going through in Britain to make a living wage, to support their | :03:42. | :03:45. | |
families, to retire with some dignity. He understands that a | :03:46. | :03:52. | |
growing economy demands that you have brought prosperity and not just | :03:53. | :03:56. | |
prosperity which is awarded by a few. I think you can build a | :03:57. | :04:01. | |
movement. Even if he shares those big themes, it is a rather different | :04:02. | :04:06. | |
endeavour. From a billion-dollar campaign with a candidate almost | :04:07. | :04:12. | |
designed for Kodak moments. To the gentler charms of British | :04:13. | :04:15. | |
campaigning, a budget of probably less than ?10 million and a | :04:16. | :04:20. | |
candidate who the public has so far refused to fall in love with, even | :04:21. | :04:28. | |
with the family snaps. But as Ed Miliband's senior strategic advisor, | :04:29. | :04:32. | |
Axelrod is unlikely to be taking to the stump. And how useful can an | :04:33. | :04:39. | |
Atlantic transplant actually be? In a way, I do think some of these | :04:40. | :04:44. | |
advisers are taking candy from the hands of a baby by taking this | :04:45. | :04:48. | |
money, these big fat contracts to work for British elliptical parties | :04:49. | :04:52. | |
because the truth is they have not run a nationwide campaign. Their | :04:53. | :04:57. | |
experience is very different. I am not sure how much of their wisdom is | :04:58. | :05:03. | |
exportable to Britain but it will certainly make those advisers with | :05:04. | :05:06. | |
DVD collections of The West Wing thrilled when they wake up in the | :05:07. | :05:09. | |
morning and that is why they want him. But new Labour gained | :05:10. | :05:17. | |
enormously from careful study of the Clinton playbook. If ever I get the | :05:18. | :05:25. | |
reception that Bill gets anywhere, I am thankful I am not running against | :05:26. | :05:33. | |
him! Axelrod is not the first hire from the Obama camp to Ed | :05:34. | :05:38. | |
Miliband's Labour. But this man, Jim Mussina, has taken a different | :05:39. | :05:45. | |
ticket. I want to take a minute to talk to you about what we are | :05:46. | :05:51. | |
building on the ground. He has gone to work as a sometime adviser to | :05:52. | :05:56. | |
David Cameron's election campaign. Certainly one politician gained | :05:57. | :06:06. | |
massively from David Axelrod's dig commission. Sometimes conventional | :06:07. | :06:18. | |
politics turns out to be wrong. Laura is here now. Are they playing | :06:19. | :06:24. | |
this as a coup? They certainly are. They are delighted about this. David | :06:25. | :06:31. | |
Axelrod is a big political player. He is not going to give his | :06:32. | :06:36. | |
expensive time, let alone an expensive public endorsement is | :06:37. | :06:40. | |
somebody he thinks is a bit of a loser. I think in terms of the | :06:41. | :06:44. | |
Labour grassroots, it probably depends how far they are from the | :06:45. | :06:48. | |
Westminster bubble in terms of their enthusiasm because sometimes big | :06:49. | :06:51. | |
hires do go wrong. The thing that Labour HQ are frankly salivating | :06:52. | :06:56. | |
over is not that they have Axelrod on the books but he is willing to | :06:57. | :07:01. | |
say publicly he shares their analysis of what they think should | :07:02. | :07:05. | |
be a really big elliptical appeal. When it started out as the squeezed | :07:06. | :07:11. | |
middle, it got some fun pokes at it but he seems to have signed up for | :07:12. | :07:16. | |
it in a very big way. Have front of house will he be? Labour are being | :07:17. | :07:21. | |
quite cagey about how involved he will be. Depends how much money they | :07:22. | :07:29. | |
are paying him. It does. I understand it is six figures. They | :07:30. | :07:33. | |
did not say how much. He is a well-known man. They have signed up | :07:34. | :07:38. | |
his firm until the general election. It is also worth pointing | :07:39. | :07:42. | |
out the differences. These big hires do go wrong. Gordon Brown employed | :07:43. | :07:47. | |
somebody which went wrong when he gave Gordon Brown a speech which | :07:48. | :07:51. | |
John Kerry had more or less given previously. They do not always | :07:52. | :07:55. | |
understand the system and fundamentally, they are working with | :07:56. | :08:00. | |
completely different political animals. Obama was a change | :08:01. | :08:04. | |
candidate, Ed Miliband is in the Cabinet. With me is Frank Luntz a | :08:05. | :08:15. | |
strategist and Rachel saw Lester, the Times columnist. Frank, you have | :08:16. | :08:19. | |
been up against him in the States. What is he like? Pretty quiet. He | :08:20. | :08:25. | |
does not want to have his picture and name out there so I am surprised | :08:26. | :08:30. | |
he filmed that little clip. I will tell you, families struggling, | :08:31. | :08:35. | |
retire with dignity, this is Barack Obama's language and the danger is | :08:36. | :08:39. | |
if he tries to take American language and apply to British | :08:40. | :08:47. | |
politics, for example the spelling of Labour. Do you think this is the | :08:48. | :08:56. | |
last role of the dice for Ed Miliband? Fire won he wants a big | :08:57. | :09:01. | |
player and he wants to pitch for the squeezed middle. As Frank says the | :09:02. | :09:07. | |
middle-class in America has a completely different meaning. The | :09:08. | :09:10. | |
danger is you can have the best political message in the world but | :09:11. | :09:12. | |
if the messenger is not appealing, it will not make any difference. | :09:13. | :09:18. | |
Axelrod must have made a calculation that it was going to be a battle and | :09:19. | :09:25. | |
if he can deliver, that will be the final feather in his cap? It is this | :09:26. | :09:31. | |
analysis that you can either have a recovery which is a trickle-down | :09:32. | :09:34. | |
recovery where the very wealthy do well and that trickles down to the | :09:35. | :09:38. | |
rest, or it is people in the middle who feel left behind, you have got | :09:39. | :09:42. | |
to help those people. It is the fact that both Miliband and Axelrod have | :09:43. | :09:47. | |
agreed on that analysis which Obama also shares. I think it seems there | :09:48. | :09:51. | |
is something on the centre-left which crosses both sides of the | :09:52. | :09:55. | |
Atlantic. Whether Miliband is as good at articulating that is Obama | :09:56. | :10:04. | |
is not clear. The fact that the district did not change and they | :10:05. | :10:07. | |
kept the same boundaries which will be tough for the Tories, it is a | :10:08. | :10:12. | |
different ball game. The Conservatives should be doing much | :10:13. | :10:17. | |
better in polls. But also look at the communication. I think Douglas | :10:18. | :10:20. | |
Alexander is the best strategist in all of Britain and I do not think he | :10:21. | :10:25. | |
gets credit for that. If Miliband cannot score points off this | :10:26. | :10:28. | |
government's failure to communicate, when can he? It is interesting | :10:29. | :10:35. | |
because the Obama team is working for both sides. It is split. Would | :10:36. | :10:41. | |
you have taken this job if the money was good enough? It is not the money | :10:42. | :10:45. | |
but the chance to work with Douglas Alexander is an incredible | :10:46. | :10:48. | |
opportunity. In the end, you have to be responsive to the local cultures. | :10:49. | :10:56. | |
You have to be careful you do not put politics first, you put policy | :10:57. | :11:01. | |
and people's concerns. I am nervous that this will make it sound like | :11:02. | :11:04. | |
Americans are for hire. It should not be that way. Do you think you | :11:05. | :11:11. | |
could get Miliband elected? You spotted Cameron. I know I would do | :11:12. | :11:15. | |
things differently. I would focus on the team, not just the individual. I | :11:16. | :11:19. | |
would focus on promises made and where they kept. And RU better off | :11:20. | :11:26. | |
today than you were four years ago? Because even though the numbers are | :11:27. | :11:29. | |
good, people do not feel it. It is smart that they are focusing on the | :11:30. | :11:33. | |
cost of living but they should call it the cost of life. I should say it | :11:34. | :11:39. | |
is not just Americans coming over. We have Lynton Crosby working for | :11:40. | :11:44. | |
the Conservatives and Ryan Coetzee from South Africa working for the | :11:45. | :11:48. | |
Lib Dems. It is almost as if they have lost confidence in themselves | :11:49. | :11:54. | |
and want endorsement from outside. I remember David Cameron saying you | :11:55. | :11:58. | |
cannot drop democracy from 20,000 feet and there is a danger that you | :11:59. | :12:02. | |
cannot drop election victory from 4000 miles. Each culture is very | :12:03. | :12:08. | |
different. Each country has a different nuance and emotion and I'm | :12:09. | :12:12. | |
sure you can understand that if you are not the country. The true story | :12:13. | :12:17. | |
as it was the British political elite went to America in 1979 to | :12:18. | :12:22. | |
teach one of Reagan how to win in 1980. The British taught Americans | :12:23. | :12:28. | |
how to do politics. As far as Miliband is concerned, there is no | :12:29. | :12:33. | |
other place. He does have an American obsession. It is | :12:34. | :12:37. | |
fascinating. He went to live there with his father when his father got | :12:38. | :12:42. | |
a job at Harvard when he was 12. It was emotionally performative time. | :12:43. | :12:51. | |
He follows the red Sox. He loves the optimism of America and it is also | :12:52. | :12:55. | |
about that time that he spent with his father. Is there a | :12:56. | :13:01. | |
misunderstanding? The point about what Axelrod did for a Obama, as | :13:02. | :13:05. | |
Laura said, he was a change candidate, he was hugely different, | :13:06. | :13:11. | |
he was presidential. It is a completely different electoral | :13:12. | :13:15. | |
offering that we have here. His analysis is you win from the | :13:16. | :13:19. | |
centre. Miliband has decided the centre of gravity in British | :13:20. | :13:24. | |
politics has shifted. That is a huge gamble for Miliband. I'm not sure | :13:25. | :13:28. | |
that the voters have become more left wing. Certainly in the past, | :13:29. | :13:33. | |
Axelrod's analysis has been that you do not win from the centre. That | :13:34. | :13:36. | |
will be an interesting dynamic to watch. If he supports the Red Sox, | :13:37. | :13:42. | |
there is no way he will be Prime Minister! In terms of the left and | :13:43. | :13:48. | |
the centre, because you have four parties, it will be like snooker. It | :13:49. | :13:53. | |
will be balls bouncing off each other. You are not going to be able | :13:54. | :13:59. | |
to tell who is going to win. What is it that Axelrod will do that will | :14:00. | :14:04. | |
set Miliband apart? The theme seems to be get out there, speak to the | :14:05. | :14:08. | |
people but actually Miliband has been trying to do that. There has to | :14:09. | :14:15. | |
be some kind of huge slick campaign. Fine macro I do not think | :14:16. | :14:22. | |
they can necessarily do that with Miliband. It will be about the | :14:23. | :14:26. | |
wealthiest have done the row well out of this recovery but the | :14:27. | :14:29. | |
ordinary people, the squeezed middle have not. It is reinforcing that | :14:30. | :14:35. | |
message which is there will be super rich versus the rest. Miliband has | :14:36. | :14:41. | |
started on that and he has got to hope Axelrod can sharpen that | :14:42. | :14:45. | |
message which appeals to people. There is an alternative message | :14:46. | :14:50. | |
which is hard-working taxpayers. You can argue over whether you are | :14:51. | :14:57. | |
middle-class or working class. Almost everyone defines themselves | :14:58. | :15:00. | |
as a hard-working taxpayer. If Cameron focuses on that, that is the | :15:01. | :15:05. | |
answer to this class -based politics. There will then be no | :15:06. | :15:10. | |
cigarette paper in the way they will campaign. That requires Cameron to | :15:11. | :15:16. | |
be laser focused on communicating the efficiency of government, the | :15:17. | :15:20. | |
effectiveness of government, accountability of government, so | :15:21. | :15:24. | |
they cannot run an anti-incumbent campaign. And secondly, if you shown | :15:25. | :15:28. | |
to be fighting for hard-working taxpayers, and they have not done | :15:29. | :15:32. | |
it. It is all about the West Wing and as Laura says, they are all | :15:33. | :15:38. | |
salivating. But you wonder what kind of heartland Labour supporters will | :15:39. | :15:46. | |
make of this? Last year the Labour team said let Bartlett be Bartlett | :15:47. | :15:53. | |
talking about the West Wing. Miliband isn't Barlet or Barack | :15:54. | :15:58. | |
Obama. The they are imposing their fantasy politics on a less glamorous | :15:59. | :16:04. | |
reality. The idea of fantasy politics! Thank you very much. All | :16:05. | :16:08. | |
this week, the maelstrom over an alleged takeover plot of Birmingham | :16:09. | :16:14. | |
schools by Muslim hardliners has been intensifying. The decision by | :16:15. | :16:18. | |
the Department of Education to appoint the former head of | :16:19. | :16:22. | |
counter-terrorism to investigate the accusation affecting 25 schools did | :16:23. | :16:26. | |
nothing to calm matters. It was described as "desperately | :16:27. | :16:29. | |
unfortunate" by the Chief Constable of West Midland Police. Accusations | :16:30. | :16:33. | |
over the segregation of girls and boys within classes, related visits | :16:34. | :16:38. | |
to 15 schools by Ofsted, the supposed banning of sex education | :16:39. | :16:44. | |
have all become part of the mix. We have been digging for clues in | :16:45. | :16:49. | |
Birmingham. In the past few weeks a storm has grown around Birmingham | :16:50. | :16:54. | |
schools and the so-called Trojan horse letter. The document, sent | :16:55. | :16:59. | |
anonymously to figures across the city, claims to detail a plot by | :17:00. | :17:05. | |
hard line Muslims to infiltrate Birmingham's state schools. Step | :17:06. | :17:09. | |
one, identify the schools that are based in Muslim areas, to influence | :17:10. | :17:15. | |
and take over. Step two, tell each parent that the school is corrupting | :17:16. | :17:18. | |
their children. The local rumour mill assumes that it is a forgery | :17:19. | :17:22. | |
and one that may have been cooked up to help one side in a local legal | :17:23. | :17:28. | |
dispute. For some liberal Muslims said it shed light on a real issue. | :17:29. | :17:35. | |
They worry that a small cliche has pressed auto conservative Muslim | :17:36. | :17:38. | |
line into secular state schools. The authorities are now worried too. | :17:39. | :17:42. | |
There are four separate investigations covering 25 of | :17:43. | :17:48. | |
Birmingham's schools. The council, which has had 200 approaches from | :17:49. | :17:52. | |
members of the parliament. The Department of Education asked Peter | :17:53. | :17:55. | |
Clarke a counter-terrorism official to take a look. All of that focus | :17:56. | :18:00. | |
and attention is going into a relatively small part of the city. | :18:01. | :18:04. | |
Birmingham's Muslim population is compacted very tightly. It is a | :18:05. | :18:10. | |
rather selling agree gaited city -- egg agree gait city -- segregation. | :18:11. | :18:20. | |
This concentration means that Birmingham has a number of schools | :18:21. | :18:25. | |
where Muslims make up almost the entire student body. Some worry that | :18:26. | :18:31. | |
allows so-called Islamisation of secular schools. A teacher, at one | :18:32. | :18:34. | |
of the schools at the centre of the investigation, spoke to Newsnight on | :18:35. | :18:38. | |
the condition of anonymity. His voice has been disguised. I don't | :18:39. | :18:43. | |
think will is a problem with teaching Arabic, or having haogical | :18:44. | :18:50. | |
food. When there is an idea behind the thought ho cress to Islamise the | :18:51. | :19:01. | |
schools, it's a problem. The local MP, Khalid Mahmood, is worried. It's | :19:02. | :19:06. | |
an issue of people fitting into the wider society. If you take that away | :19:07. | :19:17. | |
they will be less able to get on in wide society. Lots of the | :19:18. | :19:21. | |
allegations are focussed on Park View, a comprehensive school. | :19:22. | :19:26. | |
Academically, the school is a great success. Sources say that, for | :19:27. | :19:31. | |
example, romance between pupils is severely punished. A socially | :19:32. | :19:36. | |
conservative reading of Islam is said to underpin it. The Chair of | :19:37. | :19:43. | |
Governors, named in the Trojan horse documents, said the school is | :19:44. | :19:49. | |
mainstream and and it reflects the local area. We cater for the | :19:50. | :19:58. | |
communities we serve. I don't apologise for any of that. Nobody is | :19:59. | :20:05. | |
asking for any favours. We don't want any favours. This former Park | :20:06. | :20:10. | |
View parent said the school gave his daughter the education she had | :20:11. | :20:16. | |
wanted for her. This is majority Asian area and Somalis. Therefore, | :20:17. | :20:22. | |
we would like, not anything special, but because this area is a social | :20:23. | :20:30. | |
conservative area, you would expect some kind of values that would | :20:31. | :20:34. | |
reflect the overall majority. The issues in Birmingham are | :20:35. | :20:38. | |
crystallising a problem that has been discussed widely in government | :20:39. | :20:42. | |
for several years. That is, how much should we worry about extremism if | :20:43. | :20:45. | |
it's not violent? There are some people in government, like Michael | :20:46. | :20:49. | |
Gove, the Education Secretary, who think that religious conservatism, | :20:50. | :20:54. | |
if it's extreme enough, is dangerous because it can be the ideology for | :20:55. | :21:00. | |
terrorism. There is resistance to that view. I'm not going to accept | :21:01. | :21:06. | |
that the pressures from the Muslim community in Birmingham to respect | :21:07. | :21:10. | |
Islam within the school is going to lead to terrorism. I think that is | :21:11. | :21:14. | |
stretching this argument far too far. This dispute has now spilled | :21:15. | :21:19. | |
over into concern at the choice of this former terrorism official to | :21:20. | :21:23. | |
investigate what people in the ground think of as an argument about | :21:24. | :21:27. | |
religious conservatism. Peter Clarke is a former Head at Scotland Yard of | :21:28. | :21:33. | |
counter-terrorism. We are dealing with allegations here. We are not | :21:34. | :21:37. | |
dealing with Al-Qaeda, who had a number of issues in the city before, | :21:38. | :21:41. | |
and there has been some mistrust, this will add to it. I don't think | :21:42. | :21:46. | |
it's sensible. There are worries among moderate Muslims in Birmingham | :21:47. | :21:51. | |
about whether some conservatism may have shaded into extremism. We have | :21:52. | :21:55. | |
new evidence that their concerns have existed for a number of years. | :21:56. | :22:01. | |
And, have been known to officials. Newsnight has seen documents which | :22:02. | :22:04. | |
show the police were notified about two figures at Park View School in | :22:05. | :22:10. | |
2010 suspected of spreading radical ideas. No action was taken, but last | :22:11. | :22:15. | |
year the Department for Education declined to allow Park View to open | :22:16. | :22:19. | |
a new school, in part because of fears about extremism. The events in | :22:20. | :22:24. | |
Birmingham raise big questions about what role religion should play in | :22:25. | :22:28. | |
the education system. And about when it is that devotion become a worry. | :22:29. | :22:39. | |
View Educational Trust deny there have been instances of extremism at | :22:40. | :22:43. | |
the school. They say if they were aware of any allegations about such | :22:44. | :22:46. | |
behaviour they would have investigated it. The agreement over | :22:47. | :22:51. | |
Ukraine, that was thrashed out today in Geneva by diplomats from the US, | :22:52. | :22:56. | |
EU, Russia and Ukraine, to reduce the unrest on the ground, called for | :22:57. | :23:00. | |
all sides to refrain from violence and provocation, the disarming of | :23:01. | :23:05. | |
all illegally armed groups and for the control of buildings seized by | :23:06. | :23:09. | |
pro-Russian separatists to be handed back to the authorities. The | :23:10. | :23:14. | |
response from Donetsk in the east of of Ukraine was immediate. | :23:15. | :23:17. | |
Separatists occupying a local government building said they would | :23:18. | :23:20. | |
not leave until supporters of Ukraine's new government quit their | :23:21. | :23:25. | |
Maidan Square in Kiev. So has today's Geneva deal removed the | :23:26. | :23:29. | |
threat of more sanctions against Russia and increased the chance of | :23:30. | :23:33. | |
the planned elections taking place next month. I'm joined by Mark | :23:34. | :23:37. | |
Urban. Was it a breakthrough? It's important and progress. Up until | :23:38. | :23:41. | |
today, there was a real prospect that elections, due on the 25th May, | :23:42. | :23:45. | |
to give that country an elected government, an elected President, | :23:46. | :23:49. | |
were going to be disrupted by this trouble in the east. That the people | :23:50. | :23:54. | |
there would press their demands for federalism or a special deal for | :23:55. | :23:59. | |
Russian-speakers within Ukraine, by doing that, stop a national election | :24:00. | :24:03. | |
happening. Now, all of these things, which you mentioned in the inrow, | :24:04. | :24:08. | |
are now supposed to happen to de-escalate the crisis. Get people | :24:09. | :24:11. | |
out of the government buildings, all the rest of it. Sergei Lavrov, the | :24:12. | :24:17. | |
Russian Foreign Minister, hied that Russia exists that addressing those | :24:18. | :24:23. | |
grievances will only happen after that 25th May election. That is a | :24:24. | :24:27. | |
very important point. Earlier today I spoke by Skype to the US | :24:28. | :24:35. | |
Ambassador in Kiev to ask how it might go from here. The | :24:36. | :24:39. | |
constitutional commission, formed by RADA, will offer recommendations by | :24:40. | :24:44. | |
the 15th May. There will be further consultation with Ukraine's | :24:45. | :24:48. | |
Constitutional Court, changes to the constitution require separate | :24:49. | :24:52. | |
readingses in two separate sessions of the RADA. You are looking, as you | :24:53. | :24:56. | |
say, a process of several months to make these changes to Ukraine's | :24:57. | :25:00. | |
fundamental document. In the meantime, Ukraine has functioning | :25:01. | :25:04. | |
democratic institutions. Our belief is those institutions need to be | :25:05. | :25:08. | |
allowed to function. That means the Presidential elections on the 25th | :25:09. | :25:13. | |
should go-ahead. But, should we read this as a back down by Russia? Well, | :25:14. | :25:19. | |
there is definitely been more diplomatic language - From Lavrov | :25:20. | :25:23. | |
You can say some of the interpretations, the armed groups, | :25:24. | :25:27. | |
do those armed groups include the new National Guard, formed by Maidan | :25:28. | :25:34. | |
supporters to act as the strong arm of the interim government. Should | :25:35. | :25:37. | |
they be disbanded. Russia could press that point. Critically, many | :25:38. | :25:41. | |
countries have said to the Russians, if you want to de-escalate this, you | :25:42. | :25:47. | |
have 40,000 troops on the borders of Ukraine, rescind the permission | :25:48. | :25:52. | |
given to you by the Upper House of the Russian Parliament to go in and | :25:53. | :25:56. | |
use those troops in the Ukraine if you want to calm this situation. | :25:57. | :25:59. | |
This morning, in Moscow, Vladimir Putin, when asked about it, | :26:00. | :26:02. | |
specifically wouldn't give such a guarantee. | :26:03. | :26:09. | |
TRANSLATION: I would remind you that the Federation Council of Russia has | :26:10. | :26:12. | |
given the President the right to deploy armed forces in Ukraine. I | :26:13. | :26:17. | |
very much hope I will not have to examiner countries that right. I | :26:18. | :26:22. | |
hope the the acute problems affecting Ukraine can be resolved by | :26:23. | :26:26. | |
political and diplomatic methods. How much has Russia been (inaudible) | :26:27. | :26:33. | |
with the idea they are facing an appalling economic response from the | :26:34. | :26:39. | |
West Well, the fascinating thing in this crisis, different methods being | :26:40. | :26:44. | |
used by the two sides, just as President Putin signalled there that | :26:45. | :26:47. | |
he will keep his hand, if you like, on the hilt Or the handle of his | :26:48. | :26:52. | |
sword, his army on the borders of Ukraine to ensure an outcome that he | :26:53. | :26:59. | |
wants, so the US today explicitly signalled that its financial weapon | :27:00. | :27:08. | |
is not being (inaudible) either. John Kerry explicitly said this | :27:09. | :27:12. | |
afternoon in Geneva, if we don't get what we want over the weekend, | :27:13. | :27:19. | |
progress to de-escalate to come out of the occupy government buildings | :27:20. | :27:21. | |
we will use further sanctions. If you look at the Russian economy in | :27:22. | :27:26. | |
the past few weeks. It has been suffering. People pricing in some of | :27:27. | :27:30. | |
the things they think might happen. T stobgck market tumbling by 10%. | :27:31. | :27:35. | |
Capital flight from Russia since the crisis started. Some people say $70 | :27:36. | :27:40. | |
billion. The key thing, it appears, that the Russians fear is US Tressy | :27:41. | :27:46. | |
Department blacklisting of some of their financial institutions, the | :27:47. | :27:49. | |
Red Letter approach, which has been used against Iran, that could | :27:50. | :27:53. | |
absolutely freeze up the movement of capital and cause them serious | :27:54. | :27:57. | |
damage. That is the balance now between the US and Russia. As they | :27:58. | :28:01. | |
wait for this to play out in Ukraine. Mark, thank you very much. | :28:02. | :28:07. | |
The UKIP leader, Nigel Farage's, role as chief scourge of the EU in | :28:08. | :28:12. | |
Europe is being challenged by the French Front Nationale leader, | :28:13. | :28:15. | |
Marine Le Pen. Such are her party's opinion poll ratings ahead of the | :28:16. | :28:19. | |
European Parliamentary elections, she might just be about to become a | :28:20. | :28:24. | |
lot more powerful. Pollwatch 2014, based on opinion polls across | :28:25. | :28:27. | |
Europe, suggest she is on target to form part of a far-right bloc in the | :28:28. | :28:31. | |
parliament and so, for the first time, be entitled to a share of | :28:32. | :28:35. | |
public funds. At the same time, her bloc would be a challenge to UKIP's | :28:36. | :28:40. | |
right-wing Europe f free Europe of Freedom and Democracy bloc. Laura | :28:41. | :28:43. | |
Kuenssberg travelled to Strasbourg to interview Marine Le Pen. She | :28:44. | :28:48. | |
asked her, how her party could reach beyond the protest vote. | :28:49. | :29:21. | |
That united front of refusal in the UK, Nigel Farage is part of what you | :29:22. | :29:27. | |
describe as that, isn't he? You see him as part of your | :29:28. | :29:39. | |
movement? Perhaps politicians in the UK are | :29:40. | :31:10. | |
simply put off by your views? You say you would ban pork free meals | :31:11. | :31:14. | |
for Muslim children in the towns you control. One of your allies in | :31:15. | :31:18. | |
Holland said he would take care of the number of Moroccans in one town. | :31:19. | :31:22. | |
Maybe British politicians do not want to have anything to do with you | :31:23. | :31:24. | |
because of the views you hold. You said yourself it makes sense for | :31:25. | :31:42. | |
you and Nigel Farage to work together in a strategic way because | :31:43. | :31:46. | |
you have a lot of things in common but he does not want anything to do | :31:47. | :31:49. | |
with you because of your views? But isn't it the case that some of | :31:50. | :32:21. | |
the views you have put forward understandably do not appeal to | :32:22. | :32:25. | |
British politicians because they can be at worst offensive and at best | :32:26. | :32:29. | |
prejudiced? You said Muslims in France were almost like having the | :32:30. | :32:31. | |
Nazi occupation. That is what you said. You said it | :32:32. | :32:44. | |
was like an occupation. And there is nothing offensive | :32:45. | :33:56. | |
towards European Muslims in your view about saying those kind of | :33:57. | :34:02. | |
things, that it is against the identity of France or somehow | :34:03. | :34:04. | |
unacceptable for Muslims to be praying in public places? | :34:05. | :34:32. | |
Is your invitation to Nigel Farage to be part of your campaign still | :34:33. | :34:35. | |
open? Would you hope to work with him in | :34:36. | :34:52. | |
future? WorldCom in a statement to | :34:53. | :35:22. | |
Newsnight, UKIP said they were not interested in any deal with Marine | :35:23. | :35:28. | |
Le Pen and her party because of anti-Semitism in her party. Tonight | :35:29. | :35:33. | |
we learned of the death of one of the greatest 20th-century authors, | :35:34. | :35:40. | |
Gabriel Garcia Marquis, whose novel One Hundred Years Of Solitude was a | :35:41. | :35:42. | |
literary masterpiece. He was 87 and had been ill for some | :35:43. | :35:49. | |
time with pneumonia. His writing transformed Colombian literature and | :35:50. | :35:53. | |
his use of magical realism inspired other writers to explore those | :35:54. | :35:57. | |
worlds. Here is a look back at his life. Until tonight, he was perhaps | :35:58. | :36:02. | |
the greatest living novelist, the most notable literary voice and | :36:03. | :36:08. | |
spokesman of his continent, Latin America and the godfather of a | :36:09. | :36:12. | |
style, magic realism. Gabriel Garcia Marquis was born 87 | :36:13. | :36:18. | |
years ago and raised in a dirt poor banana growing town in a lonely | :36:19. | :36:23. | |
corner of Columbia, that beautiful but often benighted country. The | :36:24. | :36:29. | |
family built its definitive shelter, a linear house with eight successive | :36:30. | :36:33. | |
rooms along the hallway with an alcove filled with begonias where | :36:34. | :36:37. | |
the women and family would sit to embroider on frames and talk in the | :36:38. | :36:41. | |
cool of the evening. The rooms were simple and did not differ from one | :36:42. | :36:44. | |
another, but a single glance was enough for me to know that in each | :36:45. | :36:52. | |
of their countless details, they had a crucial moment of my life. The | :36:53. | :36:57. | |
landscape and people of his childhood furnished his fiction, | :36:58. | :37:00. | |
including perhaps his most widely read book, One Hundred Years Of | :37:01. | :37:06. | |
Solitude. It sold 20 million copies and was translated into 30 | :37:07. | :37:10. | |
languages. I invent nothing, he protested. People always praise my | :37:11. | :37:15. | |
imagination but I believe I am a terrible realist. Everything I | :37:16. | :37:22. | |
invent was already there. This was his answer to the charge, | :37:23. | :37:26. | |
if it was a charge, that he wrote magical realism. In fact, he trained | :37:27. | :37:32. | |
as a reporter and alongside his novels was a shelf of great | :37:33. | :37:37. | |
nonfiction, documenting his country's problem with kidnapping, | :37:38. | :37:41. | |
for example. He was that rare writer, one who fully deserved his | :37:42. | :37:47. | |
Nobel prize, awarded more than 30 years ago now. Nor did it become a | :37:48. | :37:53. | |
premature headstone on his career. He continued to publish, to travel | :37:54. | :37:57. | |
and interest himself in the politics of his hemisphere. He was confident | :37:58. | :38:06. | |
of Fidel Castro of Cuba. Some thought a strong man in a novel was | :38:07. | :38:10. | |
based on the leader in Havana. The writer was variously compared to | :38:11. | :38:17. | |
Cervantes, Mark Twain and Dickens. He was known to his adoring fellow | :38:18. | :38:26. | |
Colombians as Gabo. Joining me now in the studio are the writer a R | :38:27. | :38:38. | |
Kennedy and from Scotland's Ian McEwan. | :38:39. | :38:40. | |
What was so enriching about his stories? A translucent quality about | :38:41. | :38:48. | |
the prose itself, an extraordinary experiment with time, driving Miss | :38:49. | :38:55. | |
and fiction with one other unknown and unusual element. He really was a | :38:56. | :39:03. | |
one-off and one would have to go back to Dickens to find a writer of | :39:04. | :39:10. | |
the very highest literary quality who commanded such extraordinary | :39:11. | :39:13. | |
persuasive powers over whole populations. It really is an | :39:14. | :39:20. | |
extraordinary phenomenon, his literary career. You heard him say | :39:21. | :39:24. | |
that he is a realist and he has been putting this idea that he was not | :39:25. | :39:31. | |
about magic realism but wasn't it about the stories that his | :39:32. | :39:35. | |
grandparents told him that he remembered and if used his whole | :39:36. | :39:39. | |
idea of what fiction would be about? -- ends used his whole idea. | :39:40. | :39:47. | |
People rightly remember One Hundred Years Of Solitude but Love In The | :39:48. | :40:03. | |
Time Of Cholera was one of the best. This unknown Colombian town, the | :40:04. | :40:06. | |
heat, the corruption, the Swamp Younis of it all is named in the way | :40:07. | :40:16. | |
that is important. This runs against the current of the magical but still | :40:17. | :40:20. | |
it is there that magical element and that is what makes him so | :40:21. | :40:25. | |
extraordinary. I thought it was amazing that it was only recently he | :40:26. | :40:28. | |
decided he would write his memoirs and he was going to take his time. | :40:29. | :40:34. | |
First one volume and then a long time before the second volume came. | :40:35. | :40:39. | |
This idea that he was denying that he was ever going to start writing. | :40:40. | :40:45. | |
There was a sad quality to this because he had a neurodegenerative | :40:46. | :40:49. | |
disease. He was making pronouncements about how he would | :40:50. | :40:53. | |
never stop writing but in fact he had. There was an element of tragedy | :40:54. | :40:58. | |
that we will all come to, I guess, at some point or other for | :40:59. | :41:05. | |
ourselves. Ian, thank you for now. Ian talks about Love In The Time Of | :41:06. | :41:10. | |
Cholera being his favourite. But One Hundred Years Of Solitude was | :41:11. | :41:17. | |
translated into 30 languages and a bestseller, or what was it about | :41:18. | :41:31. | |
that book? It comes from a whole set of beliefs, if you write something | :41:32. | :41:37. | |
true enough and full enough, it has the capacity to change the world. If | :41:38. | :41:42. | |
you set out on that premise, it will. You have these incredible | :41:43. | :41:48. | |
swathes of time that you will accomplish and take on all kinds of | :41:49. | :41:51. | |
technical challenges because you believe you can do it and because it | :41:52. | :41:56. | |
is worthwhile and you have a definite aim insight. There is a | :41:57. | :42:01. | |
huge beautiful confidence. When I read him as a student I was not | :42:02. | :42:06. | |
thinking of writing and he literally blew my mind because you can do | :42:07. | :42:09. | |
anything, your mind can do anything. Within reality, there is a | :42:10. | :42:14. | |
reality which is magic. If you dream you kiss your boss and you see him | :42:15. | :42:23. | |
in the morning, you look at him differently. That is real. It is a | :42:24. | :42:29. | |
different book in Spanish than it would be in other languages. The | :42:30. | :42:40. | |
child with the kick's tale in One Hundred Years Of Solitude, in | :42:41. | :42:45. | |
Colombia you can take that as a given. Not necessarily because that | :42:46. | :42:50. | |
has happened but because the folkloric is part of your | :42:51. | :42:53. | |
experience. In the world we live in today, the folkloric is not | :42:54. | :42:58. | |
celebrated in the way it was. In South America and other countries | :42:59. | :43:02. | |
the folkloric was incredibly important. If you look at his | :43:03. | :43:09. | |
influence it is difficult to trace. If you imagine his influence more | :43:10. | :43:13. | |
tangible tea, you might think Sam and Rushdie -- Salman Rushdie, | :43:14. | :43:27. | |
Midnight's Children. The permission to tell a story in that way. It is | :43:28. | :43:34. | |
the permission to make something out of absolutely nothing. We have this | :43:35. | :43:40. | |
special voice where we say folkloric. These are stories which | :43:41. | :43:45. | |
have stood the test of time for centuries. There are extraordinary | :43:46. | :43:50. | |
good. It is not just that I will make up some fan fiction and then | :43:51. | :43:56. | |
turn someone into a parrot. You have to explain so much more and those | :43:57. | :44:02. | |
guys go for it. Ian McEwan, you talked earlier about Dickens but | :44:03. | :44:05. | |
where would you put him in the pantheon of writers? Right at the | :44:06. | :44:11. | |
top. Talking of his influence, I think he had a massive effect, not | :44:12. | :44:17. | |
only of Angela Carter and Salman Rushdie in say the British literary | :44:18. | :44:22. | |
scene, but I think he loosened asked up in our little corner of | :44:23. | :44:26. | |
north-western Europe. All kinds of writers who you would not associate | :44:27. | :44:32. | |
with magical realism, suddenly were able to break free of a kind of | :44:33. | :44:37. | |
literary inhibitions into thinking for themselves and how they might | :44:38. | :44:46. | |
experiment with time and space and fiction. I would place him right up | :44:47. | :44:54. | |
there in the best Parnassus, almost of a Shakespearean quality. And the | :44:55. | :44:59. | |
other side of his life, the opposition to Pinochet, the row but | :45:00. | :45:07. | |
went on for years and years and years. He was capable of very | :45:08. | :45:13. | |
obstinate principled behaviour, wasn't he? | :45:14. | :45:21. | |
He was. I was there three or four years ago having dinner and talking | :45:22. | :45:27. | |
about that great rupture. In fact, behind it I think there was great | :45:28. | :45:31. | |
fondness and great mutual admiration. This was really the | :45:32. | :45:37. | |
battle of giants. He was often cast, I think, unfairly in the context of | :45:38. | :45:43. | |
Latin and American literature as an extreme right-winger. This simply | :45:44. | :45:50. | |
wasn't the case. He had strict (inaudible) against Castro. Many | :45:51. | :45:53. | |
which were true. There were writers and journalists in prison in Cuba. | :45:54. | :45:58. | |
He dared say so. I think there was a kind of... A rather (inaudible) | :45:59. | :46:09. | |
quality to this discord. Now I think the death will settle this. Thank | :46:10. | :46:13. | |
you very much. There are a few more beautiful sounds in the song of the | :46:14. | :46:18. | |
Nightingale. The nightingale is in decline. There is a petition to | :46:19. | :46:22. | |
bring the nightingale back, to the BBC airwaves. On midnight on 818th | :46:23. | :46:28. | |
May 1924 a million people tuned into BBC Radio to hear the first ever | :46:29. | :46:35. | |
loud outside broadcast, a nightingale in full song accompanied | :46:36. | :46:44. | |
by a chelist. We thought you might like to hear it right now tonight. | :46:45. | :46:53. | |
-- cellist Beatrice Harrison. The second-half of the weekend sees | :46:54. | :47:30. | |
more unsettled weather, rain around as well. We start in Good Friday on | :47:31. | :47:36. | |
a chilly note. A beautiful sparkling blue sky sort | :47:37. | :47:37. |