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Tonight with days to go to the start of the World Cup, we report from

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Brazil on the grotesque under-side to one of the world's greatest

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sporting occasions. In the shadows of the football stadiums another

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side to the competition, the chirp being traffiked for prostitution. Do

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the police never check? Millions of us tune in for this

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stuff week after week, why do we love it, why do women seem to like

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crime drama that features violence against women. The crime writer Anne

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Cleaves is here to help us with that. And remember this? How a 1980s

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computer game has lived to the ripe old age of 30 and is still gathering

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new fans. At 9.00 on Thursday next week the football teams from Brazil

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and Croatia will begin the first match in the 2014 World Cup. Best

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not to think what the start of that great sporting carnival means for

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untold numbers of children in Brazil. Gangs of pimps are

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trafficking young girls to ply their trade around the stadiums of host

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cities there. The country is already facing an epidemic of child

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prostitution with children as young as nine selling their bodies to

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escape poverty. Even though they are the victims of sexual exploitation

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some of the children and their parents were happy for them to be

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identified on camera. In this country only. We report now from

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Brazil. This is the BR 116, a road that runs

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almost the entire length of Brazil. The route takes you through towns

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where children try to escape poverty by selling their bodies. This

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highway is nearly 3,000 miles long and a recent police survey

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discovered almost 300 areas where child prostitution was taking place.

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And that means on average children can be found offering sex nearly

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every ten miles. We're heading to a remote town 300 miles from the World

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Cup host cities in the northern tronnics. And more than 1,000 miles

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away from Rio January in the south. Prostitution is legal over 18, yet

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the number of children selling their bodies across the country is said to

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run into the hundreds of thousands. Here I'm told the clients are mainly

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truck drivers, hiring children as young as 11. We filmed very young

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girls flirting and working the tables in a bar near a truck park.

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Regular police patrols of truck parks targeting child prostitution

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are already overwhelmed. But they are facing a new problem, the

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trafficking of girls to World Cup host cities.

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In the last six months around 100 young girls have been referred to

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the social services. A social worker took me to meet some of them. That's

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your house? A flower and this is the sky. This girl has just turned 12

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and lives close to the highway. She seems like such a typical child. But

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social services tell us just how grim her childhood has been.

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Is it not scary being on the streets late at night? Everywhere you turn

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in this small town you see the poverty that is stealing childhood.

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Angela began selling herself when she was 13, she's now 17 and

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pregnant for the fifth time. Her first three children were either

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adopted or aborted, she kept her fourth. Is life tough here? What is

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tough about it? How is this human misery possible in

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a country which has the seventh-largest economy in the

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world, just behind the UK. Congresswoman, Lillian Sarh has just

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released the findings of the parliamentary inquiry into child

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prostitution. Her research took her to all 12 World Cup host cities.

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The parliamentary report highlights the traffics of children from rural

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communities to World Cup host cities. To the prop calm north-east

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the BR 11 six takes you to this stadium, in the shadow of the city's

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World Cup stadium young girls are trading their bodies. We spot two

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girls on the street, right outside a police station. As we get close it

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is clear they are very young. With a charity worker we play the part of

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British tourists, and they immediately offer us a programme,

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the local slang for sex. How old are you? They look much younger. With

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girls look so young, some look younger than others, but none of

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them have any ID whatsoever. And how much would it be for a "programme"?

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That is about ?40 pounds. I have to be afraid. Do the police never

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check? A police car has just gone by we are talking to a very young boy,

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didn't take any notice. The police told the BBC that complacency can be

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an issue and are training their officers to be more proactive.

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During the World Cup the Government promises more police patrols like

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these, to spot exploitation and a hot-line to report abuse. Even in

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daylight young girls are selling themselves around stadiums. This

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girl is 14 years old. On the other side of the Atlantic Brazilian

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footballer David Luiz warns England fans of the consequences of hiring

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child prostitutes. This video is being shown on some flights to the

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World Cup host cities, a campaign funded by British charities and

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backed by British police agencies. It is a penalty! But evidence

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suggests pimps are determined to cash in on anticipated demand.

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13-year-old Fernada was already selling her body on the B-116

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highway, she was drugged, kidnapped and forced to work on the streets

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here. She managed to escape. She is back

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home with her mother. But her pimps are still at large.

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She and her mother are reunited, but in a country that is criticised for

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failing to tackle poverty and child exploitation, there are thousands

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more children that have little hope of escaping Brazil's sex trade. You

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can see more of that report on Panorama tomorrow night on BBC One

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at 10. 35. Now the bureaucrats at the European

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Commission generously dispensed unwanted advice to the British

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Government today. They were kind enough to advise on the council tax,

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house building and London property prices. It is time for our betters

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now to choose a successor to that Prince among men, the current

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President of the European Commission, Jose Manuel Barroso.

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There are five-and-a-half candidates for the job, a couple of Greens want

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it as some sort of job SHAFRMENT the front runner is Jean-Claude Junker.

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In the wake of elections which demonstrated how little enthusiasm

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people have for the political elite's job, there were rumours that

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the Germans might be heeding David Cameron's campaign for Junker. Who

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is the kind of democratic political leader you would love on our shores,

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the one who says they are ready for being insulted for being

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insufficiently democratic, he is for secret, dark debates, if it is a yes

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they will say on we go and if no they will say they will continue.

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Some of Jean-Claude Junker's worst hits which means the UK is not keen.

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It is not hard to see why David Cameron doesn't really want

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Jean-Claude Junker in the job, there is an obvious appeal to keep them at

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bay from beyond the water. There is a risk in publicly opposing

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something that will be decided in private, in a process that the UK

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can't completely control. Junker does have some fans, but Government

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sources are adamant you can't make the case for change in Europe with a

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face from a small country in Europe first a minister in the 1980s. But

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he is the front runner, and if David Cameron's strategy is to make enough

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friends behind closed doors fails he will have to deal with the ire of

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his euro-sceptics. ??FORCEDYELL Euro-sceptics use the word

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"federalists" too loosely, someone they disagree with. But this is bona

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fide federalism, he believes in reciprocal voting rights at national

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election, he wants all the national foreign ministries to be merged into

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a European one, he wants a European police force and tax system. This is

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the whole 1950s federalist agenda, undulated. Killing off his bid would

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be difficult. The most powerful office holder in the EU went through

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the ordeal along with the audience of live debates. But because Junker

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is the candidate put forward by the EPP, the biggest block in the

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European Parliament, and they expect their man to be put in charge. That

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whole jazzy process could have been a waste of time though. Because

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there is nothing to stop other names being put forward by this lot,

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Europe's actual leaders, the council at the last minute. One senior

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Conservative source told Newsnight the Irish Prime Minister, Enda Kenny

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is their preferred option, even though publicly he has backed

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Junker. But is Angela Merkel trying to make life harder for her

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political naughty fetch few. In the last few days she has hardened her

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support for Junker, but tonight it appears she might have suggested an

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elegant way out, suggesting the head of the IMF, Christine Lagarde. It

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would be a godsend for David Cameron, she is a French candidate

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with an Anglo-Saxon feel to her, she speaks fluent English, run the IMF,

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run a big American law firm. She ticks so many boxes at Number Ten,

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she may be blocked by others precisely because of that. If the

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appointment doesn't go the UK's way, does it push us nearer leaving the

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EU all together. That thought may tickle euro-sceptic, but Number Ten

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officially says no. Mr Junker or whoever is President of the European

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Commission, will not decide on what happens to a renegotiation which

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will not even begin until a year from now the President of the

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European Commission is an important person with a lot of influence, but

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he does not take the decisions. And as our relations with our

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continental cousins are never straight forward, there is another

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complication in this torturous process, it is not just about trying

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to choose the next President, it is also who gets what in the commission

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and who decides the agenda. Submit to Junker and perhaps the UK gets a

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juicy deal elsewhere. One senior Conservative suggests what matters

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is who runs the internal market. With phone calls tonight and a

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summit in Brussels tomorrow, David Cameron has more chances to win

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friends across the channel, but he will need them, the machinations are

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complex and will take time to complete. Jacob Rees-Mogg a

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euro-sceptic MP is here, the Dutch MEP from the liberal grouping in the

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European Parliament joins us from the Hague. What do you make of David

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Cameron's objections to Mr Junker getting the job? What is important

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is the European Union becomes more democratic and the process of who

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gets the jobs is more transparent and people have a voice in who this

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person is. A first step has been taken by the European Parliament

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putting forward candidates by political groups. The largest group

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in the European Parliament has put forward Mr Junker. It is up to Mr

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Cameron to make his case among the council and see what the European

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Parliament will make of it. I don't think he has much of a chance

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because the European Parliament has committed to this system before the

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elections to take a step towards a more democratic and more transparent

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Europe which I think is very urgently needed. This was agreed

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that the largest party would endorse a candidate and that candidate would

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be more or less a shoe-in, before the election? Who was it agreed by?

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It was agreed by the European Parliament? The European Parliament

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decided amongst itself. It doesn't have the power to appoint, it has

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the power to approve, which is different. And in the election there

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is a poll done to see if anybody had heard of the candidates. 6% of

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voters had never heard of Mr Junker, with a British parliamentary

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election people know who the candidates are. The idea that

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democracy comes through the European Parliament within the EU is false.

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It comes through the Council of Ministers. But this is the mechanism

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and it was agreed beforehand, why not play a straight bat on it?

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Because the European Parliament rbitrarily decided this is what it

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was going to do. This was only one of the institution bus not the most

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democratic, it must be the Council of Ministers that represent the

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Governments. Fair enough, they are involved. What is wrong with the

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principle of the largest party which gathers the largest the largest

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number of votes being the most effective operator in the

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endorsement? I think it is a mistake to view the EPP as a single party,

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that the campaigns in individual parties were run on individual

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national political grounds, the fact that they picked some obscure

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Luxembourger to be their candidate that 66% of voters haven't heard of

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really doesn't give him any credibility. If the price of getting

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Mr Junker into the position is that a country like Britain decides it

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has to advance its referendum on whether it stays in the European

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Union, is that a price worth paying? I'm really sorry I'm having trouble

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hearing you, what I think is important is that the European

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Parliament becomes a stronger player, representing European

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citizens on the EU level, and what we need in Europe is more democracy

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and more transparency. We do not need back door dealings, back room

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dealings that the council is known for, so I think it is important, we

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have put forward as political groups these candidates, and if some groups

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have buyers remorse to put it that way, that is something they have to

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deal with, as the liberal group in the European Parliament we have put

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forward the former Prime Minister of Belgium and the leader of our

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political group in the European Parliament. There have been debates

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on television between these candidates to give European citizens

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a sense of who these people are that are candidates for the President of

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the European Commission. So this is a first step in what should be many

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more steps towards a more effective democratic and transparent European

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Union. I think if there is a problem that we have in Europe, but in

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politics more broadly in the EU, it is that there are politicians who

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say one thing, one day and then something else the next day. So we

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have to stick to what it is we have said we would do, now we must Folau

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through. Jacob Rees-Mogg you would accept this is an improvement on the

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previous system would you? Not particularly. You don't think it is

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more transparent? I don't think it is particularly, nobody has heard of

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these candidates. Is there any single candidate among them you

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would support for the job? Perhaps Bill Cash should become a candidate.

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He is not unfortunately a candidate? He could become one the Council of

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Ministers could put him forward, it is their choice. This isn't open and

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transparent because the European Parliament is a closed,

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inward-looking system, that nobody has paid any attention to the

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European Parliament's candidates or these debates other than people who

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are tied into the system. As a member of the organisation there

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will be somebody who will be President of the Commission? I have

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more confidence in the pre-Nice system where there was a veto. It is

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a pity that was given up. National countries represent their countries

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not the European Parliament, it would be better to do it on that

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system and whether that is done in private or the near private of the

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European Parliament, because however much they may have it debates I

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think they are watched by as many people as watch the Eurovision Song

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Contest. Or not. But how big a problem is it for David Cameron if

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he doesn't get his way and Mr Junker is appointed? It is a minor problem.

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I think back to the appointment of Jack Santer, who took over by the

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man vetoed by John Major. He courageously vetoed one pro-European

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federalist, replaced by another, seen as a great victory for British

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diplomacy. I don't think it would be a great defeat if it went against

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David Cameron, but equally it won't be a great victory if it goes his

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way. If there is some sort of compromise, say Christine Lagarde,

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seems to be popular at present, would that be something that you and

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your friend could live with, or would it be a subversion of what you

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see as a process that was agreed upon beforehand? I'm sorry, I can't

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hear you sufficiently. I heard that the MP of the Conservative Party

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said that the council should make these decision, but what has been

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clear is that the system as it has been working with the council and

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ministers trading different interests is not doing enough for

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European citizens so it is clear that we should not rely on business

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as usual, but we have to reform the EU to make it more democratic. I

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think that is essential. I'm sorry if I cannot hear your question, the

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satellite connection is not strong enough. I'm terribly sorry you

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haven't been able to hear properly either. Thank you very much for

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joining us and thank you Jacob Rees-Mogg too. Regular viewers will

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perhaps recall a couple of Newsnight reports from Owen Bennett Jones of

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the activities in Britain of a Pakistani exile who seems to have

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instilled a rule of fear in the city of Karachi. Finally he was arrested

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in London and being questioned about alleged money laundering. It set off

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protests in Karachi where his organisation has terrorised great

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numbers of people. Such is their reputation that fear of what it

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might do almost paralysed the city today. Here we are with the latest.

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IT With little drama Mr Hussein was picked up in a quiet, wealthy

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suburb. He's Karachi's most important politician w a solid

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parliamentary block and the ability to deliver formidable street power.

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He is famous for speeches like this. One of the investigations he faces

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in the UK is asking whether these kind of remarks amount to incitement

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to violence. Two Newsnight films revealed the investigations into Mr

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Hussein and caused a big impact in Pakistan, now he's in custody

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suspected of money laundering. The party today said it was in shock

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that he is critically ill and there will now be peaceful protests. But

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after the arrest, many parts of Karachi emptied as people feared a

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more violent reaction. Those in the city who passionately support him,

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and those who fear him, are all waiting to hear the latest news from

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London. And whether the arrest will be Folaued with charges. I'm joined

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in the studio now, what is the situation in Karachi tonight? The

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MQM have their people out on the streets in the city, they say they

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will be doing a peaceful protest until's out of custody, that could

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be as long as 36 hours, that is happening. I mean it has been more

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peaceful than many people thought, some buses were set alight. These

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guys in the screen are his supporters in Karachi? So he has a

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very passionate support base, very loyal support, but also many people

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in the city who fear him. The city is divided by him. But those people

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who support him are always, he has huge street power, he can deploy

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them whenever he wants. It is extraordinary that one man can have

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that much sway? Particularly when he has lived in London for 23 years.

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This is all done down a phone line. He has complete control of his party

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and now he is gone one of the problems the party has got is they

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don't know what to do because he's not there to tell them. How can he

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control a party thousands of miles away living in London? The party

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critics would say it is by the use of violence, by the use of force

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that many of his party officials are afraid of him, and that it is being

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done in that way. His supporters would say he's a charismatic and

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brilliant politician able to pull it off. Now the last episode of the

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gritty television crime series Happy Valley ended half an hour or so ago,

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it has been great success, with the central character, Sergeant

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Katherine Corn hugely popular. It is widely recognised that the most

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eager consumers of this sort of television are women. The question

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is why? Why should entertainment that so often features violence

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against women appeal to women? In a moment we will talk to two crime

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writers about the attraction of events we all fervently pray will

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never occur for real. They have this, in the meantime, as you would

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expect it contains some scenes of violence you might find distressing.

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Is it a realistic depicks of the kind of violence women can suffer in

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real life, or gratuitous titillation to win ratings. The cameras also

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focus on women, abused, battered, raped or dead, but has it gone too

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far. I find it increasingly rare to come across a drama where there

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isn't a woman being terrorised at the least, having her throat cut,

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tied up somewhere, menaced or murdered or scared out of her wits.

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It seems to have become a norm, without anybody noticing really. It

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seems to have crept in particularly over the past, I would say two or

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three years, and it has become quite intense now. Happy Valley, which

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ended tonight has been pretty gruelling viewing at times, but six

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million people have tuned in and only 15 complained, its female

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writer defended the violence as necessary and says in the end she

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has created uplifting television with strong female characters at its

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heart. The Fall was dubbed the most repulsive drama ever shown which one

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writer, it was a serial killer attacking attractive young women. It

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is all about context, set in the 1950s Bletchley Circle saw four code

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breakers becoming investigators, it didn't shy away from female death,

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but it wasn't gratuitous, and it showed the female leads reacting to

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it. Why did we have to come here and see her if we couldn't help her,

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what was the point of it. But criticism of too much female-based

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violence on TV is changing behaviour. I have been developing a

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show where the female writer which involves murders, all of the people

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who are dying are men. That doesn't mean it is a better or worse show,

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or we don't think about violence towards men. But certainly she did

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say when she started to write it that she would be damned if the

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first person to die on the TV show would be a woman. I think it

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self-regulates, people are aware, it has become an issue and it will

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affect how violence is depicted and violence against women. That shift

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can't come soon enough for those who trace violence against women on

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television back to our love affair with Nordic noir, The Killing with

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frightening scenes from the start spawned too many a British crime

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drama with brutality at its heart. Ripper Street, set in East London

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six months after backthe ripper's killings was simply attacked for the

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period back drop and the portrayal of violence. Do charities that

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campaign against real world violence worry about the TV versions.

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Violence against women is a reality, and it is really important to

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recognise how much of it there is. So in one sense no I don't have

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concerns. What does concern me though is when TV dramas perpetuate

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some of the many myths that exist around violence against women.

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Violence of course can be used to powerful effect, in the past even

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Women's Aid itself hasn't shied away from pretty graphic story telling

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that wouldn't look out of place of a TV drama and curtesy of Keira

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Knightly to get the own message across. With us is Anne Cleaves

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whose novels have been done both for the BBC and ITV, and the crime

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fiction critic Jake Kerridge. Let's look at the question of the appeal

:30:54.:30:56.

to women. It is clear that very large numbers of women form the core

:30:57.:31:01.

of the audience and many of these programme, yet these programmes do

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feature a lot of violence against women? Not all of them do of course.

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I agree. What women watch crime drama for is the strands of the

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story, quite often it is domestic, it is about family and the clips you

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didn't show from Happy Valley are about a close family. Sometimes

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dysfuntional. I think the writing was brilliant about that, and that

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is why women are watching it. What is your theory? I think we have to

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wonder why when two-thirds of the people who read and buy crime

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fiction are women why these interesting and ingenious ways of

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slaughtering so many women are so popular, apart from some kind of

:31:44.:31:48.

prevalent misogyny among women, I don't think it can be that. And

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factually we know that most murders are perpetrated against men,

:31:53.:31:57.

specifically young men? It may be to do with sexual violence as well. The

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crime writer Val McDermott that women are incull culcated by a fear

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of violence that men are not, so they read something to get a thrill

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that preys on their very deepest fears. What do you make of that

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idea? I don't agree with that. I think there is a tendency to put on

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what you think is going to be popular. We were talking about The

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Killing, the start of that came from the Dragon Tattoo, where it started

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with quite playful, quite domestic and the violence got stronger and

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stronger and less appropriate, I think. And because the male central

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character was very sympathetic, he was a great supporter of women, some

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how that was fine. That made the violence against the central woman

:32:54.:32:58.

character some how all right. Is there something also in drama that

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has a strong female lead, some how often feels it is OK if you have

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that to have violence against women in the same thing too. Have you

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noticed that? I think that is a cop-out too. But you have noticed it

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I bet? I'm not sure that I have, I suppose The Killing, but I know more

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about crime fiction in books. Prime Suspect, The Killing, The Bridge,

:33:28.:33:34.

all these things? It is true. Go on? It is true, why do women watch it,

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I'm not convinced that they watch it because they like seeing women

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raped, tortured and mutilated. I think it is sad if that is what we

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think, and if that is why people watch television for those things.

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Do you have a further view on why it has this appeal? In the days of

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Agatha Christie crime writers got a lot of criticism for not taking

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murder seriously making it into a parlour game, when you have the

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books, the original Swedish title of The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo was

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first called Why do men hate women. It was prevalent amongst the

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establishment and in society, he thought to justify write beg it he

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had to write about it in some detail and he had to have rape scenes in

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the books. I don't think they are gratuitous, I think he sets enough

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details going in the readers mind that they know what is going on. He

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doesn't linger. The problem is when the books are adopted into films, as

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The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo was in Swedish and American, that the

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viewer is just hit over the head with the rape scenes. You read a lot

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of this stuff, is it getting more violent? I think so. I do worry

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about the normalisation of sexual violence towards women and I find it

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very boring, because I get a flood of book which on the first page some

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poor woman, usually a young pretty woman has something quite nasty done

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to her. Do you come under pressure from publishers or television

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producers? Not at all. But I have too been sent books to blurb, and

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one sent by a publicist saying this is a really thrilling story about a

:35:28.:35:33.

serial rapist terrorising the town and leaving behind him a trail of

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tortured and mutilated women. We know you will love this book. No,

:35:39.:35:44.

really, I won't love this book. I worry I suppose that new writers

:35:45.:35:49.

feel that's what's going to sell. And young women writers write it too

:35:50.:35:54.

because they think that's what a best-selling crime novel is going to

:35:55.:35:59.

be like. I think we know that Hitchcock knew that people wanted to

:36:00.:36:03.

see a blonde get stabbed in the shower not a man. But at the same

:36:04.:36:09.

time when you watch the shower scene in Psycho, you don't see the knife

:36:10.:36:15.

going into the body, it is the editing and cutting, it doesn't

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linger on the face. Now Happy Valley, excellent series, but if you

:36:21.:36:26.

want to get value you have to see the young police woman getting run

:36:27.:36:30.

over four or five times to make an impact. You wonder how far people

:36:31.:36:34.

will be able to go in the future next time they want to make an

:36:35.:36:37.

impact. Do you not think the pendulum will swing back too, I get

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that feeling with fiction and novels. I think so, in your books a

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lot of the violence happens offstage and done very subtly. I think people

:36:46.:36:50.

will try to become more ingenious in their use of violence and they won't

:36:51.:36:55.

just have all guts strewn everywhere. I think the lovely crime

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writer Bob Barnard said more than one murder in a novel was rather

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vulgar. At the time trees, the -- Tetris,

:37:06.:37:12.

the game familiar to everyone under the age of 60, if you are over 60,

:37:13.:37:16.

you might learn something. It is a game developed in Russia and

:37:17.:37:21.

celebrating its 30th anniversary this week. That is the equivalent of

:37:22.:37:25.

two entire geological eras in the world of computing. Yet the game is

:37:26.:37:30.

still available and hugely popular on mobile phones and other devices.

:37:31.:37:35.

Even David Grossman hasn't been cool that long, he hasn't been off his

:37:36.:37:41.

chopper bike that long. He has this report. It has been rep Tate cathed

:37:42.:37:54.

on keyboards. On guitars. -- replicated on key boards, and

:37:55.:37:58.

whatever this is. But the original eight bit Tetris version is the

:37:59.:38:06.

Madingley catchy -- Madingley catchy like the game. I have been playing

:38:07.:38:11.

for 25 years and I love it still, I feel really relaxed when I play it.

:38:12.:38:18.

I'm passionate about it, it is a fantastic experience for me. So much

:38:19.:38:23.

has changed since this game was brought out, not just the computer

:38:24.:38:27.

graphics or the hardware, geopolitics too. Back then Russia

:38:28.:38:31.

was considered a dangerous and expipingsist state. Oh, hang on...

:38:32.:38:40.

The game was invented in the secret computer labs in the Moscow academy

:38:41.:38:46.

of science, an adaptation of an old Russian shape puzzle. I played a lot

:38:47.:38:51.

with this strange proto-type, and I can stop it myself and other people

:38:52.:38:58.

in my room were asking what are you doing here. And then I let people

:38:59.:39:04.

play and I realised it is not myself who is cuckoo and has something

:39:05.:39:09.

wrong in the brain, because everybody who touched this game

:39:10.:39:16.

couldn't stop playing either. Tetris spread via pirated floppies reaching

:39:17.:39:21.

the US. Everyone who played it realised this was something

:39:22.:39:24.

different, up until then video games were a scripted progression through

:39:25.:39:29.

a fine night number of -- finite number of levels, and boring. Tetris

:39:30.:39:34.

was different from the start because every time you played it was more

:39:35.:39:39.

difficult, it was different and it was impossible to win. That is

:39:40.:39:44.

probably the reason why Tetris has this enduring appeal. It is because

:39:45.:39:49.

however hard you try you can't win. In the late 80s the superpowers of

:39:50.:39:56.

the gaming world started a Cold War-style battle for the rights to

:39:57.:40:02.

Tetris. They descended on Moscow, Atari versus Nintendo. Nintendo made

:40:03.:40:08.

a video of the trip to Moscow in search of the elusive rights. Take a

:40:09.:40:14.

look outside, this is Moscow. Watching a video of Hawaii, because

:40:15.:40:21.

the TV doesn't work. The radio doesn't work. I have read everything

:40:22.:40:25.

I could read. He was negotiating with the Soviet Ministry of

:40:26.:40:30.

Software, who, he says, were pretty much clueless, he walked away with

:40:31.:40:34.

the hand held and console rights. To them it was more money than they had

:40:35.:40:38.

ever seen. For me it was more money than I had ever seen, we were happy

:40:39.:40:44.

campers. Could you put a figure on how much it was worth to you? At the

:40:45.:40:51.

end of the day, gosh, I would have to calculate, 35 million copies, it

:40:52.:40:56.

would have been multiple millions of dollars. And the game still appeals,

:40:57.:41:03.

now shrink wrapped in the smooth cellophane of nostalgia. There is

:41:04.:41:07.

demand for the original versions on the originalens machines. It is the

:41:08.:41:12.

impolicity, that modern games are very absorbing and time-consuming,

:41:13.:41:17.

but something like Tetris you can pick up and play for ten minutes or

:41:18.:41:23.

hours, it is an addictive game. In Tetris the World Service you up all

:41:24.:41:28.

this random chaos and it is your job to put it in order and make sense of

:41:29.:41:33.

it and make it neat. But time, there isn't enough time. Your successes

:41:34.:41:40.

are brief, they soon disappear, all that's left is a big pile of failure

:41:41.:41:47.

of dashed intentions of incomplete dreams until... You die. The Tetris

:41:48.:41:56.

world is pretty bleak. There are 337 days left to the date

:41:57.:42:01.

of the next election. Tomorrow we shall discover what the Government

:42:02.:42:06.

plans to spend them doing. Famously much of the time with Government is

:42:07.:42:09.

spent dealing with events they didn't foresee but the Queen's

:42:10.:42:12.

Speech to parliament tomorrow will tell us what the coalition

:42:13.:42:16.

Government would like to be doing with whatever time they have left in

:42:17.:42:20.

Government. The newspapers have had plenty of suggestions, some of them

:42:21.:42:26.

dressed up as impecably authoritative leaks. We have some

:42:27.:42:29.

ideas about what might really happen. What will happen? The first

:42:30.:42:33.

thing is it will be short, ten minutes, it will alling over by 11.

:42:34.:42:42.

45, as one observer put it unless Her Majesty does a Jean Carlos on us

:42:43.:42:46.

it will be forgotten by six. It is 11 bills, technical ways of

:42:47.:42:50.

implementing what we have heard. The pensions reform, we have heard a lot

:42:51.:42:54.

about the Dutch-style collective and the fund for that. We know there

:42:55.:43:00.

will be help for landlords, that rather excruciating scene between

:43:01.:43:03.

Clegg and Cable today setting out that. We know there will be an end

:43:04.:43:10.

to resolving day pay-offs, where senior civil servants get a

:43:11.:43:16.

redundancy pay off and come back in. And companies won't be allowed to

:43:17.:43:20.

drill without asking owners' permission, this is the fracking

:43:21.:43:24.

stuff. In terms of the mood it is difficult to set out all the

:43:25.:43:27.

legislation so quickly after what you call mid-terms, the European

:43:28.:43:31.

elections and the local elections, my reading of this is there will not

:43:32.:43:38.

be a lot of red meat thrown to the Tory backbenchers, there won't be an

:43:39.:43:44.

EU referendum bill or big moves on immigration curbs, or an Immigration

:43:45.:43:47.

Bill, and perhaps a way of saying the Government is confident with the

:43:48.:43:51.

results they have just seen. Is there likely to be anything really

:43:52.:43:56.

contentious? The most controversial thing is the recall bill, a measure

:43:57.:44:00.

by which constituents have the power to throw out their MP if there has

:44:01.:44:04.

been serious wrongdoing. Now there was a lot of toing and freeing on

:44:05.:44:12.

this, after the expenses scandal people wanted to put this mechanism

:44:13.:44:17.

in. People got cold feet in the first draft the Government thought

:44:18.:44:21.

they would end up with a lot of Newarks on their hands, they tried

:44:22.:44:26.

to remove it, now it is back in and in, in a very loose woolly way, the

:44:27.:44:31.

wording will be "my Government is committed to continue the programme

:44:32.:44:36.

of reform with legislation for the recall of MPs... " there are many

:44:37.:44:40.

who fear the bill in the current form won't have any teeth. I know

:44:41.:44:45.

Zach Goldsmith behind this from the start will be looking very closely

:44:46.:44:49.

at what is said and what is not said about recall. If all that ends up

:44:50.:44:55.

being is a system whereby it goes to another part of parliament, the

:44:56.:44:58.

Standards Committee for example, to decide on when there should be a

:44:59.:45:02.

by-election or when somebody should be removed from office then he will

:45:03.:45:06.

table an early day motion and take it to the Labour benches and say we

:45:07.:45:10.

need help because the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats have failed to

:45:11.:45:14.

get it through. Thank you. Tomorrow morning's front pages or some of

:45:15.:45:16.

them: That's it for today. We say good

:45:17.:46:01.

night with pictures from a town in Argentina that was flooded beneath

:46:02.:46:07.

10ms of salt warter in 1985 but then reappeared 25 years later. The

:46:08.:46:16.

director has made a film about Danny McAskall's cycle through the ruinsa

:46:17.:46:32.

film about Danny McAskall's cycle through the ruins.

:46:33.:46:59.

Good evening, warm and humid weather heading our way for the end of the

:47:00.:47:08.

week, breaking down into thundery showers. No warmth around, spreading

:47:09.:47:13.

into central and eastern Scotland through the afternoon. But Northern

:47:14.:47:17.

Ireland is escaping most of the rain, largely dry here. The western

:47:18.:47:21.

fringes of Scotland doing OK, but central and eastern Scotland, the

:47:22.:47:24.

rain sets in through the afternoon. Here temperatures of only 12 degrees

:47:25.:47:28.

moving down into northern England through the Midlands and the

:47:29.:47:31.

persistence of the rain means the temperatures could struggle in

:47:32.:47:34.

Birmingham and Oxford to get any higher than 11 degrees. That will

:47:35.:47:38.

feel like we have slipped back a couple of months. The rain on and

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off for much of the day here. Heading further west Devon and

:47:43.:47:45.

Cornwall getting dryer and brighter through the afternoon. I think

:47:46.:47:48.

across western parts of Wales the rain will begin to ease off, perhaps

:47:49.:47:51.

some

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