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Well that went well, the new President of the European Commission | :00:00. | :00:11. | |
is a card-carrying, Cognac swilling, fully paid up member of the Brussels | :00:12. | :00:15. | |
federalist establishment. Where is your reform agenda now Mr Cameron? | :00:16. | :00:19. | |
If I say I'm not going to back down, I won't. This is going to be a long, | :00:20. | :00:24. | |
tough fight, and frankly sometimes you have to be ready to lose a | :00:25. | :00:29. | |
battle in order to win war. Conservatives old and new will be | :00:30. | :00:33. | |
here to tell us what the Prime Minister does for an encore. | :00:34. | :00:37. | |
Who gives you the visual truth in the age of Photoshop and cosmetic | :00:38. | :00:42. | |
surgery, the snapper with the camera or artist with the brush. 25 years | :00:43. | :00:47. | |
ago portraits were so far out of fashion that there was genuine | :00:48. | :00:51. | |
debate about them becoming extinct. I believe in a snapshot saturated | :00:52. | :00:56. | |
world, people are looking to the artist to reveal something deeper | :00:57. | :00:59. | |
about their subject. And Dylan Thomas. Now as I was young and easy | :01:00. | :01:06. | |
under the apple bough, about the looting house and happy as the grass | :01:07. | :01:11. | |
was green... He's not quite as good as that one, but we have a | :01:12. | :01:17. | |
newly-discovered Dylan Thomas poem, who better to give it its first | :01:18. | :01:23. | |
outing than the man who played him, Tom Hollander. | :01:24. | :01:32. | |
One Tory MEP said it marked the beginning of the end of Britain's | :01:33. | :01:35. | |
membership of the EU, even David Cameron admitted that his desire for | :01:36. | :01:40. | |
a more semi-detatched relationship with Europe had just got heard. The | :01:41. | :01:44. | |
elevation of Jean-Claude Juncker, the epity -- epitomy of everything | :01:45. | :01:53. | |
Tory euro-sceptics despise about Britain, this didn't just leave the | :01:54. | :01:58. | |
Prime Minister an outsider in Europe, but it threatened to | :01:59. | :02:02. | |
undermine his whole European referendum strategy. | :02:03. | :02:09. | |
The commission is the mothership of the European project. Employing | :02:10. | :02:18. | |
33,000 civil servants and producing myriad regulations. Little wonder | :02:19. | :02:24. | |
that the battle over who should run it became such an emotive one for | :02:25. | :02:31. | |
the British Prime Minister. But today, he had to leave Brussels, | :02:32. | :02:36. | |
having seen his plans to stop Jean-Claude Juncker thwarted, with | :02:37. | :02:40. | |
all the Jean-Claude Juncker thwarted, with | :02:41. | :02:41. | |
his Europe policy. Today's Jean-Claude Juncker thwarted, with | :02:42. | :02:48. | |
is nod the one I wanted, frankly it makes it harder and the stakes | :02:49. | :02:52. | |
higher. This is an important stand but it is far from being the last | :02:53. | :02:58. | |
stand. My colleagues on the European Council know that I'm deadly serious | :02:59. | :03:03. | |
about EU reform, that I keep my word, that if I say I'm not going to | :03:04. | :03:07. | |
back down, I won't. This is going to be a long, tough fight, and frankly, | :03:08. | :03:11. | |
sometimes you have to be ready to lose a battle in order to win a war. | :03:12. | :03:19. | |
As the weeks before this encounter ticked by, it became clear that only | :03:20. | :03:24. | |
Hungary would embrace Mr Cameron and his vocal objection to Juncker. That | :03:25. | :03:27. | |
Government too is under take from the right, and together they found | :03:28. | :03:32. | |
themselves isolated today. There has definitely been progress in the | :03:33. | :03:37. | |
sense of gathering allies on the continent, but when things go really | :03:38. | :03:49. | |
into an important stage and there is a forcing of countries to choose | :03:50. | :03:52. | |
between Britain and Germany. Countries will choose Germany. Dane, | :03:53. | :04:00. | |
Swedes, Dutch and Finns who have some time allied with Britain over | :04:01. | :04:04. | |
the case for change of late were picked off by Germany. When they | :04:05. | :04:07. | |
came here those customary Cameron allies were already sending a | :04:08. | :04:12. | |
message that the Juncker fair was over and it was up to the British to | :04:13. | :04:15. | |
get back into the persuasion business as soon as possible. I | :04:16. | :04:24. | |
believe that the UK needs to come back and Europe needs the UK to be | :04:25. | :04:27. | |
part of us, I very much hope that after today we can get back on track | :04:28. | :04:32. | |
where the UK is an important partner and influential partner in the | :04:33. | :04:35. | |
European Union. And the British leader actually followed their | :04:36. | :04:40. | |
advice in this sense. He stood back from a nuclear option of saying he | :04:41. | :04:45. | |
would now Campaign for an exit from the EU, instead arguing that the | :04:46. | :04:49. | |
communique words recognising his request for reform were an | :04:50. | :04:52. | |
achievement and it would go on. The Prime Minister himself made it very | :04:53. | :04:56. | |
clear, one, he wants Britain to stay in the European Union, two, he has | :04:57. | :04:59. | |
plan and a strategy that should be so, three, that the council should | :05:00. | :05:06. | |
take into account the concerns and anxieties he has expressed. Mr | :05:07. | :05:11. | |
Cameron has set today's events in a proud tradition of Conservative | :05:12. | :05:14. | |
defiance to the European federalists. But there are some | :05:15. | :05:18. | |
inconvenient facts arising from Mr Juncker's appointment. It has shown | :05:19. | :05:22. | |
the power of the European Parliament, reinforced by the Lisbon | :05:23. | :05:28. | |
Treaty. And, of course, Britain and Hungary were outvoted by a majority | :05:29. | :05:32. | |
of other European countries on this. There could be no British veto. | :05:33. | :05:40. | |
The path awaiting the British PM is unchartered. Being a solitary voice | :05:41. | :05:45. | |
in Brussels may work well for him at home, but here, with majority | :05:46. | :05:49. | |
voting, it is not a good place to be. We have the Vice President of | :05:50. | :05:58. | |
the centre right European People's Party in the European Parliament. Mr | :05:59. | :06:02. | |
Juncker was their candidate. She joins us from Germany? You have been | :06:03. | :06:07. | |
dining with some leading supporters of Mr Juncker tonight, were what | :06:08. | :06:09. | |
were they saying about the British Prime Minister? Well, what I hear | :06:10. | :06:15. | |
most is concern, I think we would all like to have a European Union | :06:16. | :06:20. | |
with Britain in it rather than out, so we look with concern to what's | :06:21. | :06:27. | |
happening in the UK? Where does that leave Mr Cameron's hopes for reform | :06:28. | :06:31. | |
and chances of repatriating powers from Brussels back to London. . Well | :06:32. | :06:39. | |
I actually was elected in the Netherlands partially on that | :06:40. | :06:43. | |
agenda. We would like the European Union to focus on key taxes and not | :06:44. | :06:47. | |
on the level of detail we would seen in the past. I would be quite happy | :06:48. | :06:52. | |
for the UK to weigh their fruits and vegtables in pounds and ounces and | :06:53. | :06:57. | |
us in kilograms. That is not the key issue Europe should be about. We | :06:58. | :07:01. | |
share part of the same agenda, but you need to be in Europe to change | :07:02. | :07:05. | |
it. But nobody really wanted Mr Juncker, not even Mrs Angela Merkel | :07:06. | :07:10. | |
wanted it, at least Mr Cameron was honest? Well, I doubt that. Actually | :07:11. | :07:18. | |
it only makes sense that you take into account the result of the | :07:19. | :07:24. | |
European elections. The UK virtually invented parliamentary democracy. It | :07:25. | :07:28. | |
only makes sense to make sure that the biggest party in the European | :07:29. | :07:31. | |
Parliament has a say about the kind of leader they want in the European | :07:32. | :07:36. | |
Commission. Now he might not be the sexiest man alive, but he can get | :07:37. | :07:41. | |
things done in Europe on this, in my view, hopefully reform agenda. But | :07:42. | :07:46. | |
the way Britain voted in the European elections and the way | :07:47. | :07:48. | |
France voted in the European election, they don't want to go down | :07:49. | :07:56. | |
Mr Juncker's route? Well we have the same issues and the same challenges | :07:57. | :08:01. | |
in the Netherlands, we have a strong extreme right party that would | :08:02. | :08:06. | |
rather get out of Europe. My party makes the analysis that for the | :08:07. | :08:09. | |
Dutch citizen it is better to be in Europe. But a Europe that is | :08:10. | :08:12. | |
focussed on key tasks. Now the debate in the UK will have to be the | :08:13. | :08:17. | |
same. Is it in theritish interests to be part of Europe, although | :08:18. | :08:21. | |
reformed, or do we want out. That is not something we decide in the | :08:22. | :08:24. | |
European Parliament, that belongs in the British national parliament. | :08:25. | :08:28. | |
Explain this to British people, the European elite has run Europe into a | :08:29. | :08:33. | |
financial crisis, economic stagnation, mass unemployment of | :08:34. | :08:38. | |
Europe's youth, and yet you choose as your new President the epitomy of | :08:39. | :08:47. | |
that elite, why? I come from a small member-state, and we know that it's | :08:48. | :08:51. | |
better to be in some issues together rather than alone. Look at trade | :08:52. | :08:55. | |
negotiations, there are important trade negotiations coming up with | :08:56. | :09:00. | |
the United States. It is always more comfortable to negotiate on behalf | :09:01. | :09:04. | |
of 28 countries rather than one. It makes your weight in the world | :09:05. | :09:09. | |
bigger. And that is the challenge for the 21st sent treatment how do | :09:10. | :09:12. | |
we make sure that Europe, we're only going to be 5% of the world's | :09:13. | :09:16. | |
population at the end of the century, that we're prepared for | :09:17. | :09:20. | |
this age of globalisation. That is the challenge. And sometimes you can | :09:21. | :09:24. | |
do that alone and we would like to do that nationally, but sometimes | :09:25. | :09:30. | |
better with allies. Interesting answer gut butt not the question. | :09:31. | :09:46. | |
My guests join me now. The press tomorrow saying this takes Britain | :09:47. | :09:52. | |
one step closer to the exit, do you agree? It might be but I'm not | :09:53. | :09:57. | |
convinced. What happened today was Angela Merkel and other heads of | :09:58. | :10:00. | |
Government wanting to avoid conflict with the European Parliament, that | :10:01. | :10:03. | |
was the fundamental machine why Angela Merkel changed her position, | :10:04. | :10:06. | |
which was originally to support a wider selection of candidates. When | :10:07. | :10:09. | |
it comes to the renegotiation there is a much more fundamental issue at | :10:10. | :10:13. | |
stake. Will the other member states be content to see the second-largest | :10:14. | :10:18. | |
member of the European Union forced into a situation where it leaves the | :10:19. | :10:22. | |
European Union. My judgment, for what it is worth, is for all sorts | :10:23. | :10:25. | |
of different reasons, there is hardly a single country in the EU | :10:26. | :10:30. | |
that wants the UK to leave, that will influence, if David Cameron | :10:31. | :10:37. | |
puts forward a whole series of proposals that can be considered for | :10:38. | :10:40. | |
the UK, without doing fundamental damage to other European countries, | :10:41. | :10:43. | |
that will be the basis of a successful negotiation. Mr Cameron | :10:44. | :10:50. | |
lost 26-2, needs to win 28-0 for any major repatriation of powers to take | :10:51. | :10:53. | |
place. It is mission impossible? You say that, but this was about a | :10:54. | :10:59. | |
different issue. A simpler issue? Forgive me, this was an issue on | :11:00. | :11:04. | |
which it was safe for the other heads of Government to disagree with | :11:05. | :11:08. | |
David Cameron, to reject his view, because that way they avoided a | :11:09. | :11:13. | |
major row with the European Parliament, which at this point in | :11:14. | :11:16. | |
time was more important to them. If they do not make the best effort | :11:17. | :11:20. | |
they can. I'm not predicting success. What I'm saying is if they | :11:21. | :11:24. | |
do not make a genuine effort to actually make contact with the | :11:25. | :11:27. | |
British position and try to understand UK concerns, then they | :11:28. | :11:30. | |
know what follows. There will be a referendum in the UK, and the UK | :11:31. | :11:35. | |
would then possibly leave the European Union, for various reasons, | :11:36. | :11:39. | |
nobody wants to see that happen. How do you rate the Prime Minister's | :11:40. | :11:44. | |
chances of major reform? In terms of an overall of the European Union | :11:45. | :11:46. | |
plainly, that has been shot down in the most visible way this afternoon. | :11:47. | :11:50. | |
The idea that the European Union is going to start a massive | :11:51. | :11:54. | |
decentralisation of power is falsified by what has just happened. | :11:55. | :11:58. | |
Mr Juncker campaigned quite openly, quite honourably for a United States | :11:59. | :12:02. | |
of Europe. He wants a European citizenship where we vote in each | :12:03. | :12:06. | |
other's general election, an army, a police force. He has been given a | :12:07. | :12:10. | |
mandate to address Britain's concerns, it is not all over? It is | :12:11. | :12:14. | |
possible Britain goes for a Swiss-type deal where we are only in | :12:15. | :12:17. | |
the free market and outside everything else. If you want to | :12:18. | :12:22. | |
dress that up as associated status, and it is called Private limbed | :12:23. | :12:25. | |
partnership or associate partnership. If we get that I'm not | :12:26. | :12:31. | |
fussed about what it is called. The idea there will be a general | :12:32. | :12:38. | |
loosening of the European Union, it is not that I think it will happen, | :12:39. | :12:40. | |
Angela Merkel came out of the meeting today and said in her press | :12:41. | :12:42. | |
conference, ever closer union must apply to all 28 member states. She | :12:43. | :12:47. | |
said it didn't have to apply at the apply to all 28 member states. She | :12:48. | :12:54. | |
same speed. He mentioned the German Chancellor, Mrs Angela Merkel told | :12:55. | :13:02. | |
David Cameron she didn't want Mr Juncker and then buckled under media | :13:03. | :13:06. | |
and political pressure. How can he trust her again? You have 28 | :13:07. | :13:10. | |
democratically elected Prime Ministers with domestic | :13:11. | :13:14. | |
constituencies. I said a few moments ago what David Cameron must seek to | :13:15. | :13:20. | |
do is achieve reforms that meet the British concerns without imposing | :13:21. | :13:24. | |
anything on other EU members. What we are talking about should include | :13:25. | :13:28. | |
elements of repatriation, but that is not all. One of the most | :13:29. | :13:31. | |
important objectives has to be as the Dutch Prime Minister has said, | :13:32. | :13:35. | |
we are at the end of the days of ever-closer union. What we need is a | :13:36. | :13:41. | |
system whereby those countries, like Germany, wish to integrate further | :13:42. | :13:47. | |
have a right to do so, but countries like the UK, Sweden, Denmark and | :13:48. | :13:52. | |
others, who don't want, don't have to negotiate opt-out, they have an | :13:53. | :13:55. | |
equal right to say that kind of European Union is not the one we | :13:56. | :13:59. | |
wish to be part of. I want to look at the politic of this, what would | :14:00. | :14:03. | |
the Tory Party response be, if Mr Cameron came back, if he wins the | :14:04. | :14:07. | |
election and does the negotiation, with only cosmetic changes to our | :14:08. | :14:11. | |
current terms, and said we should still stay in. What would happen in | :14:12. | :14:14. | |
the Tory Party? I can't speak for the Tory Party, I can only speak for | :14:15. | :14:19. | |
me. I would of course vote to come out in that situation. And what you | :14:20. | :14:23. | |
have just described has been the Foreign Office policy up until now, | :14:24. | :14:26. | |
to make the minimal changes they think they can get away with, to do | :14:27. | :14:30. | |
Harold Wilson and come back and oversell it and pretend we have now | :14:31. | :14:34. | |
great new deal. That policy was aborted today. It is now an | :14:35. | :14:38. | |
impossible sell for anyone to come to the British electorate and say | :14:39. | :14:42. | |
there is a whole new deal. There is only two option, one we vote to | :14:43. | :14:47. | |
leave, the second is vote some kind of semi-detatched status peculiar to | :14:48. | :14:51. | |
us and we are only in the free market. Do you think we are more | :14:52. | :14:55. | |
likely to head to the exit? Yes. Mr Cameron's nightmare is this that he | :14:56. | :14:59. | |
doesn't get any changes and he still says we should stay in. That would | :15:00. | :15:03. | |
split the Tory Party down the middle, wouldn't it? Whatever | :15:04. | :15:05. | |
happens that is not going to happen. Why? I will tell you why. The | :15:06. | :15:12. | |
French, the Germans, all the smaller countries, for different reasons, | :15:13. | :15:16. | |
are very anxious that the whole European project would be derailed. | :15:17. | :15:21. | |
They have They have a funny way of showing it. This was a particular | :15:22. | :15:26. | |
disagreement about an individual's appointment, that has very little | :15:27. | :15:31. | |
significance in long-term history. Ultimate decisions are not taken by | :15:32. | :15:35. | |
the President of the Commission but heads of Government. Do you think | :15:36. | :15:39. | |
there will be enough to appease Tory backbenchers. Daniel is a hardline | :15:40. | :15:44. | |
euro-sceptic, what he might call cosmetic is not necessarily what | :15:45. | :15:50. | |
most reasonable people would he see see. | :15:51. | :15:54. | |
We are talking about the Tory backbenchers? We are talking about | :15:55. | :15:58. | |
the British electorate who will define this. It is ridiculous to see | :15:59. | :16:02. | |
this as a Tory split story, it is about the country, we have a | :16:03. | :16:05. | |
fundamentally different vision of Europe, I don't think David Cameron | :16:06. | :16:07. | |
or the Conservative Party are unusual. We get it all the time in | :16:08. | :16:12. | |
our constituency surgeries. We want free trade and collaboration and not | :16:13. | :16:16. | |
merger. If David Cameron came back with something that was obviously | :16:17. | :16:21. | |
cosmetic that would be rejected I in judgment by the British public, and | :16:22. | :16:24. | |
might even be by David Cameron himself. I think there are solid | :16:25. | :16:28. | |
substantial reforms that could be made which would not be cosmetic, | :16:29. | :16:32. | |
which would protect the United Kingdom from further integration | :16:33. | :16:35. | |
that we do not want and would enable us to achieve a European Union which | :16:36. | :16:40. | |
the UK, so far as its level of integration could be comfortable | :16:41. | :16:43. | |
with. Suppose you are wrong and Mr Cameron only gets cosmetic changes, | :16:44. | :16:47. | |
would you vote to stay in on current terms of membership? I would have to | :16:48. | :16:51. | |
make a judgment at that stage. You know what the current terms of | :16:52. | :16:56. | |
membership are? If the vote was tomorrow I would vote to stay in. | :16:57. | :17:00. | |
Based on the current terms? Iternally would, yes. If the choice | :17:01. | :17:04. | |
was because I think there is enough benefit for the UK to justify that | :17:05. | :17:09. | |
decision. But that doesn't mean I would want a renegotiation. There | :17:10. | :17:18. | |
are many issues of reform I would want to see. I think he will come | :17:19. | :17:21. | |
back with something substantial, time will tell. Europe is the only | :17:22. | :17:25. | |
continent on the planet shrinking economically, we need to raise our | :17:26. | :17:31. | |
eyes to more distant horizons and locations. | :17:32. | :17:33. | |
Thank you very much gentlemen. Now London state schools used to be a | :17:34. | :17:37. | |
bi-word for mediocrity and underperformance, now the capital is | :17:38. | :17:41. | |
the best place in England to go to school, especially from a poor | :17:42. | :17:44. | |
background. We are not exactly sure why. Maybe, just maybe the answer is | :17:45. | :17:56. | |
about teachers' love lives. Grange Hill is London's most famous school, | :17:57. | :18:00. | |
but were it running today it would look very different. That is because | :18:01. | :18:04. | |
the capital's schools have, in the past decade emerged as comfortably | :18:05. | :18:09. | |
the country's best. And, this month three separate reports are being | :18:10. | :18:15. | |
published on why. The success of London's schools is enormously | :18:16. | :18:18. | |
important for the rest of the country. That is because the capital | :18:19. | :18:22. | |
is now the lens through which all discussion of educational success is | :18:23. | :18:25. | |
being focussed. For example the Labour Party wants more | :18:26. | :18:27. | |
collaboration between schools. That's based on the success of a | :18:28. | :18:32. | |
London scheme called the London Challenge which encouraged heads to | :18:33. | :18:36. | |
work together. The Tories are more focussed on what you do with failing | :18:37. | :18:39. | |
schools and replacing management. That happened a lot in London too. | :18:40. | :18:43. | |
In truth none of these explanation are big enough to explain the size | :18:44. | :18:49. | |
of the phenomenon in the city. London's schools take the poorest | :18:50. | :18:52. | |
children in the country, looking at pupils taking GCSEs in 2012, they | :18:53. | :18:58. | |
were more likely to be on free school meals, a popular indicator of | :18:59. | :19:03. | |
poverty. Yet its schools get the best results in the country. Most | :19:04. | :19:06. | |
Inner London children get straight As than the national average. The | :19:07. | :19:11. | |
data shows this is the result of a decade of improvement. So the many | :19:12. | :19:14. | |
to this mystery, whatever it is, must be very big and very old. One | :19:15. | :19:19. | |
idea that has been gaining currency is that of assortive mating, that is | :19:20. | :19:24. | |
the idea that graduates are more likely to marry other graduates, for | :19:25. | :19:29. | |
teachers that means that their partners are more likely to be | :19:30. | :19:32. | |
highly educated, and, since there is greater demand for graduate skills | :19:33. | :19:37. | |
in London, then in other parts of the country, that means they are | :19:38. | :19:41. | |
more likely to be drawn to London so their partners can get a good job. | :19:42. | :19:45. | |
You can see that in the figures. These bars show the share of | :19:46. | :19:50. | |
teachers partnered up with graduates across length England. And this is | :19:51. | :19:53. | |
Inner London, where they are much more likely to be partnered up with | :19:54. | :19:58. | |
other graduates. Outside London graduates married to teachers are | :19:59. | :20:02. | |
quickly likely to work in the public sector, but in London you see they | :20:03. | :20:05. | |
do a different mix of jobs. Very few work for the state. Many will be | :20:06. | :20:11. | |
doing jobs that right now only exist in London. Why did you come to teach | :20:12. | :20:17. | |
in London? I grew up in London and I was always told that if you can | :20:18. | :20:20. | |
teach in London you can teach anywhere, because historically it | :20:21. | :20:23. | |
was the most changing place to teach. That is why I started here. | :20:24. | :20:26. | |
And I'm still working in the first school I trained in and I absolutely | :20:27. | :20:31. | |
loved it. Can you see yourself ever leaving London? My husband works in | :20:32. | :20:35. | |
a job that ties into London pretty much for life, so we are here for | :20:36. | :20:39. | |
good. These are new teachers starting this week on Teach First, | :20:40. | :20:43. | |
one big question for future is how do we help these young people choose | :20:44. | :20:48. | |
a life outside the capital. Cities like Leeds have big recruitment | :20:49. | :20:53. | |
problems. Perhaps the simplest answer is teachers need to be a bit | :20:54. | :20:58. | |
more inventive in their dating habit, must try harder! | :20:59. | :21:06. | |
The BP Portrait Award is in its 20th year with more entries than before. | :21:07. | :21:12. | |
One of the celebrated artists believe its popularity is people | :21:13. | :21:15. | |
trust painters more than photographers to show the truth | :21:16. | :21:18. | |
about their subjects. He has made a film for Newsnight to argue his | :21:19. | :21:28. | |
case. # I have been looking so long | :21:29. | :21:32. | |
# At lease pictures of you 25 years ago I was leaving school | :21:33. | :21:36. | |
and wanted to be painter, at that time portraits were so far out of | :21:37. | :21:40. | |
fashion that there was genuine debate abo whether they might become | :21:41. | :21:43. | |
extinct. It was said the camera never lies, and the belief was that | :21:44. | :21:47. | |
photography was a far more truthful and authoritative medium. But since | :21:48. | :21:55. | |
the advent of digital photography, and in particular camera phones we | :21:56. | :21:58. | |
have seen a vast increase in the number of photos being taken by | :21:59. | :22:03. | |
everyone around us. The emergence of social media means we are now | :22:04. | :22:06. | |
exposed to a huge number of cleverly posed, selected and enhanced images | :22:07. | :22:11. | |
of friends and family. We are also more saturated than ever with | :22:12. | :22:17. | |
glamorous idealised photos of models and celebrities, like these taken by | :22:18. | :22:24. | |
photographer Rich Hardcast. Digital enhancement is a process in its own | :22:25. | :22:32. | |
right. We no longer assume that a photograph represents what the | :22:33. | :22:36. | |
camera saw. It is impossible but you will make me look more hand some. | :22:37. | :22:43. | |
Removing obvious spots. And when we can go up. Some wrinkle lines. | :22:44. | :22:50. | |
Bringing down the wrinkles on the forehead, like so. This is about | :22:51. | :22:55. | |
where I would stop, personally. Because it looks like you. It sort | :22:56. | :22:59. | |
of says something about you, you can see your laughter lines. But you | :23:00. | :23:04. | |
know. That looks to me like a slightly improved version of how I | :23:05. | :23:07. | |
am now. The photo was a bit unkind to me? It is the varnished truth we | :23:08. | :23:14. | |
have here. If you didn't mind going beyond that. We can get rid of these | :23:15. | :23:21. | |
lines around your eyes, like so. This is the original image that we | :23:22. | :23:24. | |
had, and then there is this which you are starting to look a little | :23:25. | :23:29. | |
bit like a freak! And you know, this is only the start, I mean you could | :23:30. | :23:34. | |
go all out and make you look like you had the face of a baby! That | :23:35. | :23:41. | |
would be the stuff of nightmares! Photoshop may be a recent | :23:42. | :23:44. | |
phenomenon, but image enhancement is as old as the hills. I'm surrounded | :23:45. | :23:50. | |
here by the 18th century equivalent of a Facebook page now. You have a | :23:51. | :23:56. | |
circle of friends, who are all advertising their general | :23:57. | :24:01. | |
fabulousness for all to see. Much in the way that Facebook today tends to | :24:02. | :24:07. | |
encourage people to project a certain kind of uniformity. The | :24:08. | :24:12. | |
fashions of time we can see from the pictures was a chubby face, velvets | :24:13. | :24:19. | |
and pretty much all in ridiculous bouffant hair, except for this guy | :24:20. | :24:26. | |
who didn't get the wig memo. Me my own paintings I try to do the | :24:27. | :24:34. | |
opposite and bring out the I haddy -- I haddy sin crass -- id iOS | :24:35. | :24:47. | |
yncraciess. There is also the use of Botox and fillers that communicate | :24:48. | :24:50. | |
how we feel about each other in another way. I entered this portrait | :24:51. | :24:58. | |
prize when there was one hundred entries and now there are thousands | :24:59. | :25:01. | |
and the quality gets higher every year. I love this painting, there is | :25:02. | :25:05. | |
something very empathetic about this figure sitting quietly contemplating | :25:06. | :25:08. | |
something in his own life and invites us to do the same in a more | :25:09. | :25:14. | |
studied and calm way perhaps than a photographic image. Nor has the | :25:15. | :25:21. | |
imagined been enhanced by Photoshop, and glamorised to he suit an | :25:22. | :25:31. | |
editorial and glamour agenda just the subject's agenda on coming | :25:32. | :25:34. | |
across. I think it is very successful. I believe the loss of | :25:35. | :25:39. | |
trust in photography is documentary medium, and the deliberate | :25:40. | :25:43. | |
alteration of our physical appearance is some of the reasons | :25:44. | :25:46. | |
behind the huge resurgence of a painting portrait. In a snapshot | :25:47. | :25:51. | |
saturated world, people are looking to artists to reveal something | :25:52. | :25:53. | |
deeper about their subject. In order to drive this forward we do need | :25:54. | :25:58. | |
exhibitions like this one to help us find new and brilliant exponents of | :25:59. | :26:05. | |
the genre. Jonathan is here along with a renowned photographer whose | :26:06. | :26:10. | |
pictures of people like Barack Obama, Brad Pitt and others have | :26:11. | :26:16. | |
been exhibited around the world. The camera can lie afterall? Of course | :26:17. | :26:23. | |
the camera can lie, but I think that the truth is in the intervention. I | :26:24. | :26:29. | |
think that all art is about the choices one makes. And I think, | :26:30. | :26:34. | |
well, I totally agree that popular imagery, air brushes the shadow away | :26:35. | :26:40. | |
from our lives. But one has to ring-fence this as popular imagery. | :26:41. | :26:43. | |
This is advertising and it is not art, and I think what we are talking | :26:44. | :26:47. | |
about is art and that is about point of view and one's, how one | :26:48. | :26:58. | |
intervenes. Cromwell said that his portrait artist should paint him | :26:59. | :27:03. | |
warts and all. But I bet your celebrity sitters don't say that to | :27:04. | :27:06. | |
you, you are going along with this in a way? I think you would be | :27:07. | :27:10. | |
surprised, if you think Cromwell existed at a time when artists would | :27:11. | :27:16. | |
expect to cover all those things up. Nowadays, you know, you could have a | :27:17. | :27:21. | |
portrait of you that covered up all the imperfections, but it would be | :27:22. | :27:28. | |
contradicted by all the photographic evidence around it. You and the | :27:29. | :27:33. | |
artist would look ridiculous. But it is more obvious if you are truthful | :27:34. | :27:38. | |
or not these days. How do we know when a photographer has done this or | :27:39. | :27:42. | |
not? There are lots and lots of bad paintings and lots and lots of bad | :27:43. | :27:49. | |
photographs. I think that the point is that we have to be in | :27:50. | :27:53. | |
relationship with our sitter, you enter into a relationship and that's | :27:54. | :27:59. | |
nonverbal or how I'm feeling, everything that is behind me comes | :28:00. | :28:04. | |
into the room as well. And how I see this person is how I will photograph | :28:05. | :28:10. | |
them. And I might recognise in them vulnerability, envy or happiness, | :28:11. | :28:13. | |
and all of these human conditions I would call them are what make a | :28:14. | :28:20. | |
portrait interesting. I understand, but how do we know it is the | :28:21. | :28:27. | |
unalloyed picture, or is there now an expectation that most pictures | :28:28. | :28:32. | |
are in some way retouched? No I think in the popular media that's an | :28:33. | :28:36. | |
expectation. But I don't think it is in art. Do you do it? I use | :28:37. | :28:43. | |
Photoshop to enhance a jacket, to darken somebody's hair because I | :28:44. | :28:47. | |
want to enhance a mood or something that I felt, or for that kind of | :28:48. | :28:53. | |
way, it isn't that different to how I might have worked in the dark road | :28:54. | :29:02. | |
map. Room. -- room. Has your profession been darkened by what has | :29:03. | :29:06. | |
appeared in the glossy magazines? I think coming out of all of this | :29:07. | :29:11. | |
popular imagery is a rebirth and better art will be made. I want you | :29:12. | :29:15. | |
both to look at what is behind me, there is two representations here of | :29:16. | :29:21. | |
a supermodel, Erin O'Connor, your black and white picture and your | :29:22. | :29:24. | |
colour portrait of her. Why is black and white picture and your | :29:25. | :29:32. | |
more honest than his photograph? I don't know that it is. I think a | :29:33. | :29:37. | |
great portrait photograph does have a great honesty about it. I remember | :29:38. | :29:44. | |
Owen saying at the time the reason -- Erin saying she wanted a portrait | :29:45. | :29:49. | |
painted is because at that time in her life she was on magazines and | :29:50. | :29:53. | |
everywhere she didn't feel it was her because there was editorial | :29:54. | :29:57. | |
imposed on her. The photograph looks like her? That was a great | :29:58. | :30:03. | |
photographer! I think it is not so much that, what has happened is our | :30:04. | :30:08. | |
perception of what photography is has changed. That is an interesting | :30:09. | :30:11. | |
point about using retouching because everyone does. Do you object that? I | :30:12. | :30:17. | |
don't object it, most artists use photography, there is more crossover | :30:18. | :30:22. | |
than there used to be. There is an expectation now that photographers | :30:23. | :30:25. | |
are becoming artists and using it as a medium rather than being a | :30:26. | :30:30. | |
separate entity. The devices I choose to use are the devices you | :30:31. | :30:35. | |
might do, you might use a certain paint brush and use soft light, you | :30:36. | :30:37. | |
might too. People paint brush and use soft light, you | :30:38. | :30:43. | |
think there is plenty of room in the world for both. That is it for | :30:44. | :30:47. | |
tonight because the 13-year-olds have to get to bed. If they are | :30:48. | :30:52. | |
13-year-old there is a lot of under age drinking going on and they are | :30:53. | :30:57. | |
not ageing well let me tell you. Something you have never heard | :30:58. | :31:05. | |
before a new poem by Dylan Thomas read for the first time. And Tom | :31:06. | :31:13. | |
Hollander played the part in the film marking his death. This appears | :31:14. | :31:19. | |
to be a drinking song, dashed off the pub. | :31:20. | :31:26. | |
When licensed to sell beer, wine and spirits and alcohol as well, | :31:27. | :31:30. | |
advertised in the paper he would open that night his own hotel the | :31:31. | :31:35. | |
town had a fright. He wept like a baby and took to his bed. Mrs Lil | :31:36. | :31:42. | |
Jenkins of the old pig and swill sacked all the barmaids and was sick | :31:43. | :31:46. | |
in the till. In every saloon and public too there was such a | :31:47. | :31:50. | |
commotion than nobody knew, for the licensed for all, drinking and | :31:51. | :31:54. | |
smoking by men small and tall had decided to call his hotel the | :31:55. | :32:04. | |
Liberty Fliberty Giberty Hall Hotel. The drinks were all free and | :32:05. | :32:07. | |
cigarettes as well in the brand new hotel. There were no set hours, | :32:08. | :32:13. | |
there were no decrees and nobody shouted "time gentlemen please". For | :32:14. | :32:19. | |
in this splendid place, no gentleman ever disgraced our fair race, there | :32:20. | :32:26. | |
was nothing to pay, and nothing to lose, in the Buckingham Palace of | :32:27. | :32:29. | |
booze. | :32:30. | :32:32. |