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The cease-fire in Gaza is over as Palestinian rockets hit Tel Aviv. | :00:08. | :00:14. | |
There were no Israeli injuries, but they retaliation upon Gaza City was | :00:15. | :00:20. | |
lethal. We will hear from a senior Palestinian politician and Daniel | :00:21. | :00:23. | |
Barenboim, the maestro who conducts his famous orchestra who has hard | :00:24. | :00:29. | |
words for Israel. It has not given Israel the security it hoped for. In | :00:30. | :00:36. | |
the end, to put it bluntly, the Pelleas Dineen -- the Palestinians | :00:37. | :00:46. | |
suffer and Israel loses. Are Mark Carney's wrong predictions making | :00:47. | :00:50. | |
him seem like the unreliable pilot of monetary policy? A retiring | :00:51. | :00:58. | |
Labour MP lets rip about the problem of too many women in Parliament. | :00:59. | :01:02. | |
Stella Creasy is here and she is not smiling. | :01:03. | :01:10. | |
Good evening. Nine days of relative peace for Gazans and Israelis is no | :01:11. | :01:19. | |
more and the deadly pattern has resumed. Gaza says there have been | :01:20. | :01:23. | |
35 air strikes and another Palestinian child is reportedly | :01:24. | :01:27. | |
dead. Hamas said they have fired 40 rockets at Israel. Israeli bomb | :01:28. | :01:33. | |
shelters are open again and earlier today Israel calls its negotiators | :01:34. | :01:40. | |
back from Cairo claiming Hamas had breached the cease-fire. Our | :01:41. | :01:44. | |
correspondent is in Gaza City. Yolande Knell, first of all, what is | :01:45. | :01:49. | |
happening in Gaza City tonight? Right now, you might be able to hear | :01:50. | :01:55. | |
the sound of Israeli drones once again. We have seen in the past few | :01:56. | :02:00. | |
minutes Palestinian rockets being fired towards Israel and we have | :02:01. | :02:04. | |
seen through the past few hours Israeli has strikes -- Israeli air | :02:05. | :02:17. | |
strikes. Close to our office in Gaza City, we heard four or five blasts | :02:18. | :02:23. | |
as there was an Israeli air strike targeting a house. This is work a | :02:24. | :02:30. | |
small girl, we are told, was killed along with two Palestinian women. | :02:31. | :02:35. | |
Also 15 people had to be dug out of the rubble, many of them badly | :02:36. | :02:39. | |
injured. These are scenes the likes of which are zones thought they had | :02:40. | :02:44. | |
put behind them after the recent lull in the fighting -- which the | :02:45. | :02:53. | |
cars ons. -- Gazans. Apparently one was aimed at Ben Gurion Airport? We | :02:54. | :03:04. | |
know Israel's Iron Dome Israel -- Iron Dome defence system has | :03:05. | :03:09. | |
intercepted some, but we are told a rocket landed close to the airport. | :03:10. | :03:17. | |
This will have been of huge symbiotic significance for the | :03:18. | :03:31. | |
Israelis. They said it was partly on revenge for the killing of members | :03:32. | :03:38. | |
of the family here in Gaza City. Also Hamas blaming Israel for the | :03:39. | :03:42. | |
collapse in the cease-fire. Israel says it is Hamas that is | :03:43. | :03:47. | |
responsible. The business of whether or not either side was getting | :03:48. | :03:53. | |
anything out of the negotiations or either side was prepared to | :03:54. | :03:58. | |
compromise, what actually happened? In Egypt, we had repeated signs that | :03:59. | :04:03. | |
little progress was being made in the indirect talks to try to broker | :04:04. | :04:07. | |
a longer term cease-fire deal between Israel and the Palestinians, | :04:08. | :04:12. | |
with the Egyptians acting as go-betweens. Intelligence officers | :04:13. | :04:16. | |
having delegations in separate rooms, trying to put to them a | :04:17. | :04:23. | |
proposal to address Israel's security concerns. It has been | :04:24. | :04:26. | |
demanding the demons drive version of Gaza. The Palestinians in turn | :04:27. | :04:30. | |
have been demanding and easing to the tight border restrictions -- the | :04:31. | :04:40. | |
demilitarisation of Gaza. We understood already that it was | :04:41. | :04:43. | |
proving very difficult to reach any kind of compromise that both sides | :04:44. | :04:48. | |
could sell to their own publics. Joining us from Ramallah in the West | :04:49. | :04:56. | |
Bank is Mustafa Barghouti, former Palestinian presidential candidate. | :04:57. | :05:03. | |
Good evening. Was it the case with the negotiations appearing to go | :05:04. | :05:07. | |
nowhere that Hamas fired three rockets which eventually broke the | :05:08. | :05:13. | |
cease-fire? Well, the most important problem has been that the talks did | :05:14. | :05:19. | |
not move an inch for 18 days because Israel rejected and refused every | :05:20. | :05:26. | |
proposal presented by the Egyptians. Benjamin Netanyahu and his | :05:27. | :05:28. | |
government clearly had the intention of making the cease-fire fail and | :05:29. | :05:33. | |
preventing an agreement of a long lasting cease-fire. Had the three | :05:34. | :05:38. | |
rockets not been fired, the chances are... Maybe the deadlock... Maybe | :05:39. | :05:49. | |
do, say she would have continued. Unfortunately the western media is | :05:50. | :05:52. | |
reporting this single act of violation of the cease-fire, but | :05:53. | :05:56. | |
they never reported the fact that Israel violated the cease-fire in | :05:57. | :05:59. | |
three different ways. In every minute of every cease-fire, it | :06:00. | :06:04. | |
Israel continued to fly a military planes over Gaza. They also fired at | :06:05. | :06:10. | |
the farmers working in Gaza and their ships continue to fire on the | :06:11. | :06:16. | |
fishermen who are trying to fish on the shore of Gaza. In reality, | :06:17. | :06:22. | |
Israel violated the cease-fire, but negotiations did not stop. The three | :06:23. | :06:28. | |
rockets were not fired by Hamas. Whoever fired them may be violated | :06:29. | :06:31. | |
the agreement but it was not an excuse for all of the attacks by the | :06:32. | :06:36. | |
Israelis which started to take the lives of children and civilians | :06:37. | :06:41. | |
again. If Hamas did not fire the three rockets, it is fair to say | :06:42. | :06:46. | |
that Hamas is in charge of security in Gaza and they should be able to | :06:47. | :06:53. | |
stop any renegades. That is Hamas's responsibility. I am not sure if | :06:54. | :06:58. | |
Hamas is responsible for security since Israel is not clarifying | :06:59. | :07:03. | |
whether it is occupying Gaza or not. If you have an interview with any | :07:04. | :07:08. | |
Israeli official, I wish you would ask them the question, is Israel | :07:09. | :07:13. | |
occupying Gaza and if it is, why is it bombarding people there, killings | :07:14. | :07:17. | |
of millions, killing mainly women and children -- killing civilians, | :07:18. | :07:23. | |
and injuring more than 10,000 people? If it is not occupying Gaza, | :07:24. | :07:29. | |
why is it imposingly blockade and preventing Palestinians having free | :07:30. | :07:32. | |
access to the world, why is it causing this terrible humanitarian | :07:33. | :07:41. | |
crisis? In reality, there was a very good opportunity... Let us talk | :07:42. | :07:43. | |
about the opportunity. There are several groups, in the | :07:44. | :07:50. | |
negotiations, including Hamas and Fatah. What were the Palestinian | :07:51. | :07:55. | |
groups, and I know you are not in the negotiations, but what were the | :07:56. | :07:59. | |
Palestinian groups offering up on the leek as a compromise? I met with | :08:00. | :08:05. | |
the negotiators -- offering up as a compromise? I met with the | :08:06. | :08:10. | |
negotiating team when it was preparing its final paper that would | :08:11. | :08:14. | |
be presented to the Egyptian side, to pass to the Israelis. The | :08:15. | :08:20. | |
Palestinian delegation was an agreement, there was no | :08:21. | :08:24. | |
disagreement. An agreement that there will be a lasting and complete | :08:25. | :08:32. | |
cease-fire, lasting one, in addition to lifting the blockade of Gaza. | :08:33. | :08:42. | |
Today Israel is in contradiction not with Hamas, but with all | :08:43. | :08:46. | |
Palestinians, including the Palestinian Authority. The | :08:47. | :08:49. | |
delegation in Cairo was headed by a representative of the Palestinian | :08:50. | :08:54. | |
Authority. To claim it is a fight with Hamas is not right, it is a | :08:55. | :08:58. | |
fight with all the Palestinian people. In my opinion, Israel and | :08:59. | :09:03. | |
Benjamin Netanyahu are trying to consolidate their occupation in Gaza | :09:04. | :09:10. | |
and they are trying to impose this siege and suffocate Palestinians not | :09:11. | :09:14. | |
only in Gaza but also in the West Bank where attacks to -- continue to | :09:15. | :09:23. | |
happen. Evidence Israelis and Arabs can live and work in harmony is the | :09:24. | :09:26. | |
West-Eastern Divan Orchestra founded and led for the last 15 years by one | :09:27. | :09:32. | |
of the world's leading conductors. Daniel Barenboim's orchestra made up | :09:33. | :09:36. | |
of young Israelis, Palestinians and others from neighbouring countries | :09:37. | :09:39. | |
will perform at the Proms tomorrow and the programme will include | :09:40. | :09:43. | |
specially commissioned works by composers of Israeli and Arabic | :09:44. | :09:47. | |
origin. I spoke to Daniel Barenboim earlier and asked how the situation | :09:48. | :09:52. | |
in Gaza had affected his orchestra. It is a very tragic moment. It is a | :09:53. | :10:05. | |
moment of horrific violence. Something that even this region that | :10:06. | :10:14. | |
has seen so much violence has seldom experienced. In the end, you see the | :10:15. | :10:21. | |
suffering of the Palestinians, with so many children and young people | :10:22. | :10:28. | |
killed in Gaza, over 50% of the population of Gaza is under 15 years | :10:29. | :10:33. | |
old. So think of the hatred that this has left for the future. Nobody | :10:34. | :10:43. | |
in this case things of tomorrow, let alone the Day after tomorrow. And it | :10:44. | :10:49. | |
has not given Israel the security had hoped for. In the end, to put it | :10:50. | :10:54. | |
bluntly and crudely, the Palestinians suffer and the Israelis | :10:55. | :10:58. | |
lose so what is the point of it? Powers the orchestra changing and | :10:59. | :11:08. | |
evolving? -- how is. In the present situation with Gaza, I was sure some | :11:09. | :11:16. | |
people would back out and would cancel, saying, I cannot now play | :11:17. | :11:20. | |
with the other. And I would have understood it. I am so happy and so | :11:21. | :11:29. | |
proud, I say that unashamedly, so proud but not one musician cancelled | :11:30. | :11:37. | |
coming. Will it be harder, do you think, to recruit for the orchestra? | :11:38. | :11:44. | |
Is it harder now? The political situation now is much worse than 15 | :11:45. | :11:51. | |
years ago. So the simple answer is, yes. The more complex answer is, it | :11:52. | :12:05. | |
is more complicated, rather than more difficult. Do you think it will | :12:06. | :12:10. | |
give an added a motion to tomorrow night's performance? Everyone is | :12:11. | :12:15. | |
watching Palestinians playing their instruments in harmony with Israelis | :12:16. | :12:19. | |
and vice versa -- added emotion. A few days ago we played in | :12:20. | :12:25. | |
Switzerland. In the middle of this, I realised, there comes the flute | :12:26. | :12:33. | |
solo, I looked and this group of Arabs in the orchestra were wishing | :12:34. | :12:37. | |
him the best and were trying to support him. And a few minutes | :12:38. | :12:44. | |
later, when it was the clarinet, the group of Israelis, as part of the | :12:45. | :12:50. | |
orchestra, supported him too. Where else do you have that? What do you | :12:51. | :12:56. | |
feel about boycotting arts events run by Israeli companies? I think I | :12:57. | :13:05. | |
can understand the impulse to boycott things that come from a | :13:06. | :13:18. | |
country that has not shown enough interest in advancing a peaceful | :13:19. | :13:27. | |
solution which many Palestinians rightly feel. I can understand that. | :13:28. | :13:38. | |
I think one has to differentiate between Israelis who represent the | :13:39. | :13:46. | |
government and cultural people or institutions that do not represent | :13:47. | :13:51. | |
the government. I think that to say I boycott everything that is | :13:52. | :13:56. | |
Israeli, though emotionally may be understandable, it is | :13:57. | :13:59. | |
counter-productive. I think it has to be very clearly defined and I | :14:00. | :14:05. | |
think above all it must not turn into an anti-Semitic tendency. I | :14:06. | :14:23. | |
think the wave of the so-called anti-Semitism, which is in fact | :14:24. | :14:27. | |
anti-Jewish, in the world, is unacceptable. Not only unacceptable | :14:28. | :14:34. | |
because of the history. In the end all its doors is give Hitler a | :14:35. | :14:44. | |
posthumous victory. In 2012 were part of the Olympic opening | :14:45. | :14:47. | |
ceremony. You brought harmony weather was discord and must've been | :14:48. | :14:51. | |
a big for you. Were you more optimistic then than now? I have | :14:52. | :15:00. | |
optimism because the world Nevers tops. It always continue. Everyone | :15:01. | :15:06. | |
who has his own personal tragedy in some way or other overcomes these | :15:07. | :15:12. | |
tragedies. And the world develops and goes on. If you tried to look | :15:13. | :15:20. | |
realistically, the world looks terrible now. It looks like the Pope | :15:21. | :15:26. | |
said, on the brink of a third world war. Ukraine, Iraq, the Middle East. | :15:27. | :15:41. | |
But we do not have the luxury of bathing in pessimism. We really do | :15:42. | :15:48. | |
not. It only makes it worse. We have to continue and when we do not | :15:49. | :15:54. | |
believe we have to make believe and eventually make our way. | :15:55. | :16:00. | |
It's the thing that politicians fear and we're told must never | :16:01. | :16:03. | |
But when it plummets, does that create | :16:04. | :16:06. | |
Figures out this morning revealed that consumer price | :16:07. | :16:10. | |
Much weaker than had been expected and well below the Bank of England's | :16:11. | :16:15. | |
So where does this all leave the prospect of interest rate increases? | :16:16. | :16:20. | |
Mark Carney's much heralded arrival as governor of the Bank was | :16:21. | :16:23. | |
a year ago now so does he still look like a white knight? | :16:24. | :16:26. | |
Our Economics Correspondent Duncan Weldon reports. | :16:27. | :16:33. | |
When will interest rates go up? Mark Carney, the Bank of England governor | :16:34. | :16:41. | |
since July last year, is the man supposed to have the answers. When | :16:42. | :16:46. | |
he took over he stressed our important it was that the bank was | :16:47. | :16:50. | |
clear on those things. -- how important. The monetary policy | :16:51. | :16:56. | |
committee must clear and transparent to avoid an unwarranted tightening | :16:57. | :17:03. | |
in interest rate expectations as the recovery gathers strength. One year | :17:04. | :17:08. | |
on the timings of rate rises are far from clear. Unexpectedly weak | :17:09. | :17:13. | |
inflation has added to the confusion. And some of the confusion | :17:14. | :17:16. | |
seems to be coming from the governor himself. We're looking at March for | :17:17. | :17:22. | |
the first right interest rates. But depending on what Mark Carney says | :17:23. | :17:27. | |
day by day, those are shifting significantly. When the so-called | :17:28. | :17:33. | |
rock star central banker was poached from Canada to come to the UK, few | :17:34. | :17:39. | |
expected such confusion. He is the most qualified person in the world | :17:40. | :17:43. | |
to be the next governor of the bank of England. Back when Mark Carney | :17:44. | :17:50. | |
was appointed the economy looked to be facing a triple dip recession. | :17:51. | :17:54. | |
How could he used monetary policy to boost growth? His big idea was | :17:55. | :18:01. | |
forward guidance. By pledging to keep interest rates low he helped to | :18:02. | :18:06. | |
increase confidence in consumers and businesses and persuade high street | :18:07. | :18:09. | |
banks to boost their own lending. But that pledge to keep rates low | :18:10. | :18:15. | |
for longer was based on a set of economic forecasts which rapidly | :18:16. | :18:20. | |
went off track. Forward guidance was first unveiled last year. The bank | :18:21. | :18:25. | |
was clear. It would not even consider raising interest rates | :18:26. | :18:30. | |
until unemployment fell below 7%. And it did not think that would | :18:31. | :18:34. | |
happen until 2016. But it happened earlier this year. So instead of | :18:35. | :18:39. | |
looking at the unemployment rate the bank said it would examine a range | :18:40. | :18:42. | |
of indicators of spare capacity in the economy. But those measures of | :18:43. | :18:48. | |
spare capacity started to fall fast. Now we have another new focus, this | :18:49. | :18:54. | |
time wages. At least one critical former member of the monetary | :18:55. | :18:57. | |
committee is not impressed. If you were to say we do not quite know | :18:58. | :19:03. | |
what is happening, things are complicated and we will follow the | :19:04. | :19:07. | |
data, you can give it a fancy name. But that is essentially what it | :19:08. | :19:13. | |
amounted to and in the end it has come down to an analysis of the | :19:14. | :19:17. | |
labour market and the central bank in the UK under Mark Carney has | :19:18. | :19:21. | |
looked hopeless. It has been taken by surprise. Mark Carney might be | :19:22. | :19:28. | |
the governor but the monetary policy committee actually takes the | :19:29. | :19:33. | |
decision and he is just one vote out of nine. And those nine members are | :19:34. | :19:37. | |
looking at different data. We watching so many metrics and many of | :19:38. | :19:42. | |
those running hot and many cold. It is a difficult task to unpick that. | :19:43. | :19:52. | |
There's no shame in getting your economic forecasts wrong. Most | :19:53. | :19:55. | |
economists get the forecasts wrong most of the time. What is starting | :19:56. | :20:02. | |
to bother critics of the governor is the feeling that the goalposts keep | :20:03. | :20:06. | |
moving. One day it is wages that matter, the next unemployment. In | :20:07. | :20:12. | |
one speech he reassures us that rates will remain low and then he | :20:13. | :20:17. | |
warns that they could have to rise. It is that perceived inconsistency | :20:18. | :20:21. | |
that led one MP to say he's acting like an unreliable boyfriend, | :20:22. | :20:26. | |
blowing hot and cold. So when will rates actually rise? Today we are no | :20:27. | :20:32. | |
closer to an answer. What can be said with confidence is that written | :20:33. | :20:35. | |
statements from the Bank of England have not exactly made the situation | :20:36. | :20:43. | |
any clearer. With me to discuss the prospects for forward guidance is a | :20:44. | :20:47. | |
former member of the monetary policy committee. Forward guidance turned | :20:48. | :20:56. | |
out not to be guidance at all? Guidance is difficult to go with | :20:57. | :21:01. | |
when the goalposts to keep changing. The narrative of the Bank of England | :21:02. | :21:07. | |
changes all the time was up there is inconsistency about what they are | :21:08. | :21:09. | |
trying to measure. When they talk about slack in the economy it is an | :21:10. | :21:16. | |
opaque thing and does move a lot. Mark Carney has undermined the | :21:17. | :21:21. | |
credibility of the bank with this? It was the wrong analysis of the | :21:22. | :21:26. | |
labour market for a start? You have to start with the analytical | :21:27. | :21:31. | |
problems. Forward guidance I forecast was going to be a mistake | :21:32. | :21:34. | |
because it focused on what the bank was doing rather than on the | :21:35. | :21:40. | |
forecasts. You have to put things in terms of the forecasts. As you noted | :21:41. | :21:43. | |
in that report a number of members of the monetary policy committee, | :21:44. | :21:48. | |
kept getting it wrong on the labour markets. They were pessimistic about | :21:49. | :21:54. | |
labour supply and about UK product safety and those were mistaken | :21:55. | :22:01. | |
ideas. It seems now that it is low interest rates at any cost. The | :22:02. | :22:08. | |
unemployment forecast is now 6.6. There is no question that will not | :22:09. | :22:13. | |
be rise in interest rates, is there? There is going to be a rise | :22:14. | :22:20. | |
and maybe now it will be February instead of November. But the bias of | :22:21. | :22:25. | |
the committee, not just Mark Carney, has been to say that there is no | :22:26. | :22:30. | |
slack left in the UK economy. It is quite a fake concept but as long as | :22:31. | :22:34. | |
they keep insisting on that then they will be biased towards interest | :22:35. | :22:43. | |
rate rises. What do you do about that? You hold fire and you phrased | :22:44. | :22:48. | |
things consistently in terms of forecasts. You say is not about what | :22:49. | :22:52. | |
I was about to do in future, you said we think growth is going to | :22:53. | :22:57. | |
lead to inflation only if productivity... It turns out | :22:58. | :23:01. | |
employment and productivity were better than we thought and that the | :23:02. | :23:06. | |
bubbly means we should revise our pessimism about the UK. That | :23:07. | :23:10. | |
probably means there is less inflation potential. You have to | :23:11. | :23:14. | |
make an argument and it is not that complicated. The other thing is you | :23:15. | :23:17. | |
do not talk so much. There's a question about why the governor is | :23:18. | :23:22. | |
always out there making a new statement every week. There is a | :23:23. | :23:26. | |
reason why central bank governors generally do not talk this often. | :23:27. | :23:34. | |
You do not want to create confusion. We all know George Osborne would | :23:35. | :23:42. | |
mark Carney to get him here. And now he is being encouraged to talk to | :23:43. | :23:47. | |
supposedly increase our confidence in the economy. He does talk a lot. | :23:48. | :23:53. | |
The forward -- the problem with forward guidance is that it brings | :23:54. | :23:59. | |
the decision very much into the public arena. Mark Carney is trying | :24:00. | :24:04. | |
to assure people that interest rates will not move as the economy | :24:05. | :24:09. | |
changes. That is perhaps why Ely he is providing so much narrative. The | :24:10. | :24:15. | |
problem with forward guidance if people have to believe it for a to | :24:16. | :24:21. | |
work. People do not really believe what Mark Carney is saying to a | :24:22. | :24:25. | |
certain extent. If they do not believe him... I want to emphasise | :24:26. | :24:35. | |
what people do believe and that is that inflation will stay low. So the | :24:36. | :24:39. | |
public and expectations of credibility of the bank have been | :24:40. | :24:45. | |
affected. If there is a doubt about Mark Carney it is the fact, is he | :24:46. | :24:51. | |
making political decisions, in a sense. Is he in cahoots with George | :24:52. | :24:57. | |
Osborne who does not want interest rates to rise? I think the problem | :24:58. | :25:03. | |
is not with him but with forward guidance. There are problems around | :25:04. | :25:10. | |
communication. We've seen it happen before. The messages that people are | :25:11. | :25:14. | |
trying to get across. The problem lies with forward guidance itself | :25:15. | :25:21. | |
rather than with Mark Carney. In terms of whether interest rates will | :25:22. | :25:26. | |
rise, market now expected to be in the early part of next year. There | :25:27. | :25:30. | |
is still a chance it could happen this year. Mark Carney is saying he | :25:31. | :25:37. | |
is looking for wage growth. If you have wage growth that does not | :25:38. | :25:43. | |
actually materialise, low wages and rising house prices and even a | :25:44. | :25:48. | |
quarter percent increase in interest rates, up to 1 million families will | :25:49. | :25:55. | |
be hurting with their mortgages in the lead up to a general election? I | :25:56. | :26:02. | |
think the Bank of England is supposed to be an independent body | :26:03. | :26:05. | |
and will not focus on the general election. Is that the | :26:06. | :26:11. | |
consideration? I think the only consideration is you do not move | :26:12. | :26:21. | |
rates right to run the election. You do not get right in the middle of an | :26:22. | :26:26. | |
election and I -- and I think that is fair and reasonable. But it is a | :26:27. | :26:35. | |
political move? Not at all. It is a party neutral move. You can raise | :26:36. | :26:42. | |
rates in March, June, February. Just not raising them and cause a | :26:43. | :26:47. | |
disruption right at the time of an election. That is not biased towards | :26:48. | :26:53. | |
any one party and it is not about affecting the election. It is the | :26:54. | :26:59. | |
central bank making the best choice it can to stay out of politics. | :27:00. | :27:03. | |
"We over-policed for a few days, and then we completely under-policed." | :27:04. | :27:06. | |
That's the verdict by the Missouri Democrat Senator Claire MCCaskill | :27:07. | :27:09. | |
on the police tactics following the fatal shooting of unarmed black | :27:10. | :27:11. | |
Today a top UN Human Rights official Navi Pillay, speaking in Geneva, | :27:12. | :27:16. | |
said that the clashes between police and protestors in Ferguson were | :27:17. | :27:20. | |
reminiscient of the racial violence spawned by apartheid in her native | :27:21. | :27:23. | |
South Africa and called for an examination of the "root causes" of | :27:24. | :27:27. | |
This is surely the last thing anyone wanted. A few hours ago the police | :27:28. | :27:43. | |
in St Louis Missouri shot and killed a 23-year-old Lachmann, an event | :27:44. | :27:49. | |
that may inflame an already tense local situation. -- black man. For | :27:50. | :27:58. | |
more than a week Ferguson, a modest suburb of the city, has been wracked | :27:59. | :28:04. | |
by protests. And sometimes violence. The unrest has provoked a ferocious | :28:05. | :28:07. | |
police response. Last night there were 31 arrests. | :28:08. | :28:15. | |
Protesters are peaceful and respectful. They do not clash with | :28:16. | :28:19. | |
police. They do not throw Molotov cocktails. This rage was ignited by | :28:20. | :28:25. | |
the killing of Michael Brown, an unarmed like a teenager, by Darren | :28:26. | :28:30. | |
Wilson, a white police officer. On the 9th of August the recent high | :28:31. | :28:35. | |
school graduate was shot six times. And his death has opened up once | :28:36. | :28:40. | |
again the question of race in modern America. Of course I'm heartbroken | :28:41. | :28:46. | |
to watch it but I cannot say I'm shocked. There has been simmering | :28:47. | :28:50. | |
racial tension building in St Louis for years if not decades. Probably | :28:51. | :28:56. | |
longer than that. This is something that for a lot of people who have | :28:57. | :29:00. | |
paid attention to these issues, frankly, St Louis has been a | :29:01. | :29:07. | |
powderkeg and something like this was almost bound to happen. Ferguson | :29:08. | :29:13. | |
is a poor town and an empty one as well. Since 1970 the proposition is | :29:14. | :29:16. | |
fallen by a quarter to about 21,000 people. But it only stayed that high | :29:17. | :29:25. | |
because like families moved from the decaying city of St Louis. The | :29:26. | :29:34. | |
majority black population occurred. Now two thirds of the town. But you | :29:35. | :29:39. | |
would not know it to look at the people building the power. Look at | :29:40. | :29:43. | |
the local school board and the city council. Of the 53 police officers | :29:44. | :29:47. | |
in the town just four of them are black. Meanwhile black citizens | :29:48. | :29:52. | |
account for 86% of all police stops. Having been stopped back people are | :29:53. | :29:58. | |
less like it to be caught carrying contraband but there are twice as | :29:59. | :30:01. | |
likely to be arrested. So just how unusual is the political imbalance | :30:02. | :30:09. | |
in Ferguson on race? I examined a data set from 2001 consisting of all | :30:10. | :30:15. | |
American cities with a population of more than 10,000. And examined the | :30:16. | :30:20. | |
relationship between the percent of the city's opposition that is | :30:21. | :30:25. | |
African-American and the percent of the city council that is | :30:26. | :30:29. | |
African-American. Usually about 60% of the city and African-American you | :30:30. | :30:35. | |
would tend to see Radha the City Council being African American. | :30:36. | :30:40. | |
Ferguson was very different and really stood out from the trend. | :30:41. | :30:45. | |
Back in 2001 at any rate, it had just over 50% of its population | :30:46. | :30:50. | |
African-American and not African Americans on the city council. So | :30:51. | :30:56. | |
why do black voters not just vote for more black leaders? There is | :30:57. | :31:02. | |
certainly quite dominated clique that has controlled politics. They | :31:03. | :31:08. | |
are tied in with the Labour unions. And these labour unions tend to get | :31:09. | :31:14. | |
a lot of jobs from public sector construction and other contracts. | :31:15. | :31:18. | |
Because they're able to do well there are then able to help fund | :31:19. | :31:23. | |
campaigns of favoured allies and keep re-electing them to office. | :31:24. | :31:27. | |
That ends up marginalising most of the black population. One can only | :31:28. | :31:33. | |
hope these exchanges seized today. The racial goblins in Ferguson and | :31:34. | :31:39. | |
St Louis cannot be solved overnight. -- problems. It is amazing how some | :31:40. | :31:50. | |
politicians come forth with views they have been harbouring for many | :31:51. | :31:55. | |
years. Austin Mitchell has to sided to get his concerns about the | :31:56. | :32:00. | |
feminisation of Parliament off his chest. He wrote in the Mail on | :32:01. | :32:06. | |
Sunday, the Commons will be more preoccupied with the local and small | :32:07. | :32:10. | |
problems rather than big ideas and issues. He went on, apart from | :32:11. | :32:15. | |
obsessive feminism, women MPs are more preoccupied with the local and | :32:16. | :32:17. | |
small problems rather than big ideas and issues. He went on, apart from | :32:18. | :32:20. | |
obsessive feminism, women MPs R but it might not make us tougher. Austin | :32:21. | :32:22. | |
Mitchell joins us from Leeds. Stella Creasy, MP is here. Austin Mitchell | :32:23. | :32:33. | |
first of all, why do you think women will be more preoccupied with small | :32:34. | :32:39. | |
problems? Parliament is going that way anyway. We are becoming more | :32:40. | :32:43. | |
like social workers than international statesman. I think it | :32:44. | :32:48. | |
is right to contradict what you said in the introduction to the | :32:49. | :32:51. | |
programmes that the number of women should be increased. Labour has done | :32:52. | :32:58. | |
very well at that and all women short lists have been a good way of | :32:59. | :33:03. | |
doing it but they are democratic. The choice that local constituencies | :33:04. | :33:08. | |
have, it is the only one real power they do have, the choice is very | :33:09. | :33:13. | |
limited. They short lists are very short. My argument is that we have | :33:14. | :33:18. | |
done a lot, we have got the proportion of women up to 43% of the | :33:19. | :33:26. | |
Labour Party. It is time now to let the parties choose who they want and | :33:27. | :33:32. | |
call it a day. That is all I'm saying. I am surprised at the | :33:33. | :33:43. | |
assault from my colleagues, as if I was attacking a sacred item. This is | :33:44. | :33:48. | |
an article in the Mail on Sunday you wrote yourself. Stella Creasy, do | :33:49. | :33:54. | |
you recognise you and other women are more concerned with small | :33:55. | :33:59. | |
problems rather than big ideas? Are lies the drip drip, drip of | :34:00. | :34:04. | |
discrimination and prejudice that women face in every sphere. I read | :34:05. | :34:13. | |
it in sadness when I realised it had been written by you, Austin | :34:14. | :34:25. | |
You are a male MP, Austin. If I said you think exactly the same things as | :34:26. | :34:28. | |
Tony Blair, you would be horrified. Why don't you accord the same | :34:29. | :34:35. | |
privilege to women? Don't hate me and hector me. I am sorry, there's | :34:36. | :34:44. | |
the sound turned up, I am not shouting. I am frustrated that yet | :34:45. | :34:48. | |
again we are seeing women being put down in this way. It is an all women | :34:49. | :34:58. | |
short list that replaced Austin and a former aide to Ed Miliband will be | :34:59. | :35:05. | |
in his constituency. Does he have a point that however laudable all | :35:06. | :35:08. | |
women short lists are, they are not entirely democratic? There are still | :35:09. | :35:13. | |
more men sat in Parliament today than there have ever been women | :35:14. | :35:18. | |
MPs. What he is displaying is a great example of a study that Susan | :35:19. | :35:22. | |
Sarandon did that if a room had 20% women in the ready room thought it | :35:23. | :35:34. | |
was 50-50. If it has 30 stone women, the men think it is more women than | :35:35. | :35:39. | |
men -- if it has 50% women. Labour MPs in Westminster do you think they | :35:40. | :35:46. | |
hold the same view as you? Possibly. I have not asked them. The | :35:47. | :35:53. | |
problem is really with the Conservative and Liberal parties. | :35:54. | :35:58. | |
Let us stick with you. They have not increased the number of women. It is | :35:59. | :36:03. | |
their turn to do something. Let local parties choose whether they | :36:04. | :36:09. | |
want to have a longer short lists with more choice of different types | :36:10. | :36:18. | |
of... Tell me, how many women is asked doing our duty in a party that | :36:19. | :36:22. | |
is designed to promote social justice? Is there a particular | :36:23. | :36:29. | |
number? I am not going to say the proportion. The proportion of women | :36:30. | :36:38. | |
will be over 40%, about 43%. Not parity, not equality, that is | :36:39. | :36:43. | |
enough, is it? I am not suggesting we should have... Let me move on. It | :36:44. | :36:54. | |
damages us all. Countries more equal or more prosperous. We have been | :36:55. | :36:59. | |
thrown massive recession. Having more diverse decision-making is good | :37:00. | :37:02. | |
for everyone and that is the challenge we face. The Tories and | :37:03. | :37:06. | |
the Liberals cannot get their act together, that is no excuse for us | :37:07. | :37:10. | |
not to press on and stand for what we stand for. You said women are | :37:11. | :37:15. | |
more amenable and readable. I can't get a word in. We need to increase | :37:16. | :37:22. | |
the number of women. I agree with Stella. It is no use going on in | :37:23. | :37:28. | |
this kind of fashion. I think women probably are Morley double. The | :37:29. | :37:36. | |
problem will come if we have a 1974 situation or 1951 situation where | :37:37. | :37:43. | |
Labour does not have a powerful majority -- I think women probably | :37:44. | :37:49. | |
are more lead above. We are living in 2014. I am really sad you said | :37:50. | :37:53. | |
this. I really enjoyed being on the Public Accounts Committee with you, | :37:54. | :37:58. | |
with a really strong female chair, Margaret Hodge. She was not | :37:59. | :38:02. | |
leaderboard. We are seeing the drip, drip, drip. Whether it is you, | :38:03. | :38:07. | |
Johnson Johnson, women are being second-guessed by their gender. I do | :38:08. | :38:14. | |
not think women standing for selection should have to either. Do | :38:15. | :38:22. | |
you attract the article? Excluding men altogether on an all women short | :38:23. | :38:27. | |
lists, that is the problem. Is it democratic to exclude one half? Do | :38:28. | :38:31. | |
you think open selections are done on merit? Every political party... | :38:32. | :38:40. | |
Most countries have a quota system because most recognised it is an | :38:41. | :38:45. | |
incredibly solvable problem. We have made 4% progress in 15 years. Very | :38:46. | :38:51. | |
quickly, put the record straight, would you like to see far more women | :38:52. | :38:55. | |
in Parliament? Would you like to see 50%... Let him reply. I would. It is | :38:56. | :39:03. | |
up to the Conservatives and Liberals to have more women on their side. On | :39:04. | :39:08. | |
the Labour side, let us give it a rest and see whether... The barriers | :39:09. | :39:15. | |
have been broken down enough. The last time we had all women short | :39:16. | :39:20. | |
lists, the number increased after we stopped using them. When we stopped | :39:21. | :39:26. | |
using them in 2001, it fell. There is nothing else that makes the | :39:27. | :39:31. | |
difference. Let me have the right to say something on this programme and | :39:32. | :39:34. | |
give local parties the right to choose who they want. Thank you very | :39:35. | :39:39. | |
much indeed. Now, reports reaching us tonight that Islamic State | :39:40. | :39:45. | |
insurgents have released a video that they claim shows the beheading | :39:46. | :39:50. | |
of a US journalist who went missing in Syria almost two years ago. The | :39:51. | :39:58. | |
video entitled Message To America was posted on social media sites. We | :39:59. | :40:04. | |
should stress that at the moment we have no way of verifying the | :40:05. | :40:07. | |
authenticity of the video and a Twitter account that had been set up | :40:08. | :40:13. | |
by the man's family to help find him has called for patience until the | :40:14. | :40:18. | |
authenticity of the video can be established. Of course we will not | :40:19. | :40:21. | |
be showing it, but what has happened? James Foley was a | :40:22. | :40:27. | |
freelance journalist working in the Middle East for a number of years. | :40:28. | :40:31. | |
He went missing in late November, 2012. His family had not heard from | :40:32. | :40:37. | |
her since -- from him since. Islamic State released a video today in | :40:38. | :40:42. | |
which it claims to execute him, beheading him. We cannot, as you | :40:43. | :40:47. | |
say, confirm it is him. His family through Twitter have said they are | :40:48. | :40:52. | |
waiting. We can see a picture of James himself. But we do not know if | :40:53. | :40:56. | |
this is the same person shown in the video. We do not even know yet if | :40:57. | :41:01. | |
the video is legitimate. That is right. There is no indication when | :41:02. | :41:07. | |
it was taken. All we know is it was released today and that it seems | :41:08. | :41:11. | |
quite possible that it was filmed in either Iraq either Syria. The video | :41:12. | :41:17. | |
claims the execution was carried out in response to US air strikes | :41:18. | :41:22. | |
against Islamic State in Iraq and for many people it will bring back | :41:23. | :41:27. | |
memories of for example very gruesome videos of a British civil | :41:28. | :41:34. | |
engineer Ken Bigley executed by Al-Qaeda in Iraq in 2004. IS are | :41:35. | :41:40. | |
claiming to be holding another journalist but we have nobody tell, | :41:41. | :41:45. | |
is that correct? There is a lot of speculation about what is happening | :41:46. | :41:50. | |
and counterclaims. That is in the interests of groups like Islamic | :41:51. | :41:54. | |
State to say they have people in their possession in order to gain | :41:55. | :41:58. | |
leveraged. One thing I should add is that the respected legend that the | :41:59. | :42:02. | |
execute may have been speaking with a British accent. We cannot it. But | :42:03. | :42:08. | |
I have spoken personally to Brits fighting in Iraq with Islamic State | :42:09. | :42:11. | |
so it is not something we can rule out. Thank you. The front pages, | :42:12. | :42:16. | |
obviously that story does not make them, it is too late, but the Daily | :42:17. | :42:22. | |
Mail, Cilla Black, I know my pal is innocent. New violence as US police | :42:23. | :42:30. | |
kill a second man in St Louis. NHS faces funding cut if Scotland says | :42:31. | :42:37. | |
yes. And the Daily Mail, last of all, nurses on home visits cult to | :42:38. | :42:42. | |
ask elderly people, do you want us to let you die? -- nurses on home | :42:43. | :42:50. | |
visits to ask elderly people. That is it tonight. We end with a | :42:51. | :42:55. | |
mysterious YouTube megastar known as Disney Collector. Her movies | :42:56. | :43:01. | |
comprise of nothing more than her hands taking various toys out of | :43:02. | :43:05. | |
packaging. Why is it in anyway interesting? Is not. Except the | :43:06. | :43:11. | |
YouTube channel has somehow clocked up in a billion fits. -- hits. We | :43:12. | :43:16. | |
have no idea why it has got so many. The last surprise is from Jake | :43:17. | :43:24. | |
in the Netherlands. Let us see what we have got here. Hopefully we got | :43:25. | :43:44. | |
another toy. In we go. Jake. This is awesome. | :43:45. | :43:58. | |
It is going to be a cold start in the morning. For many, a sunny start | :43:59. | :44:05. | |
and find no. Sprinkling of showers. -- fine day. Many will avoid the | :44:06. | :44:14. | |
showers and stay dry. A mixture of sunny intervals and showers for | :44:15. | :44:17. | |
Northern Ireland and Scotland. More persistent rain in the north-west | :44:18. | :44:23. | |
later. Shelter through the central belt, most places dry and bright. | :44:24. | :44:28. | |
Even with sunshine, temperatures only 16 degrees. The winds may be a | :44:29. | :44:33. | |
touch lighter than today. A spring clean of showers over the Midlands, | :44:34. | :44:38. | |
East Anglia and the south-east. They will be scattered. Many places | :44:39. | :44:45. | |
avoiding them. Maybe 19, 20 in one or two places. Wales, a scattering | :44:46. | :44:49. | |
of showers. A scattering of showers. They the winds they touch lighter | :44:50. | :44:57. | |
than today. -- the winds. Showers more concentrated on Thursday on | :44:58. | :45:00. | |
Northern Britain. Again it will feel cool. Further south, the showers | :45:01. | :45:04. | |
will be well scattered. Decent chance of a dry day. Decent spells | :45:05. | :45:11. | |
of sunshine early on across parts of the south and east. It will be a | :45:12. | :45:16. | |
cold start to Thursday. Then the showers will develop more widely | :45:17. | :45:20. | |
across northern areas. Temperatures only in the | :45:21. | :45:22. |