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The great European project bogged down in a migration crisis, | :00:00. | :00:11. | |
with economic stagnation leaving north and south at one anothers' | :00:12. | :00:14. | |
throats and Britain threatening to walk out. | :00:15. | :00:16. | |
We'll get the insider's take from former EU President, | :00:17. | :00:18. | |
This is an existential crisis of the project, probably the largest crisis | :00:19. | :00:37. | |
in the history of European integration. We will be hearing if | :00:38. | :00:45. | |
Jose Manuel Barroso knows how to sort out the mess. | :00:46. | :00:48. | |
Tonight, the voters of New Hampshire head to the polls. | :00:49. | :00:50. | |
We are with the undecideds, who are making their minds up | :00:51. | :00:53. | |
Kenneth Branagh's theatre company brings us the story of the first | :00:54. | :00:59. | |
The audience for Red Velvet are on the edge of their seats, | :01:00. | :01:06. | |
as if this thing was unfolding on the streets | :01:07. | :01:08. | |
of London right now, and given in a way how little has | :01:09. | :01:11. | |
If the staunchest of Eurosceptics had got to script the circumstances | :01:12. | :01:28. | |
best suited to their cause as referendum day approaches, | :01:29. | :01:30. | |
they'd have struggled to do a better job than reality. | :01:31. | :01:32. | |
Unprecedented numbers of people entering the European Union, | :01:33. | :01:34. | |
the concessions David Cameron is straining to secure from fellow | :01:35. | :01:38. | |
leaders apparently failing to butter many parsnips at home and economic | :01:39. | :01:41. | |
difficulties and disparities growing by the day. | :01:42. | :01:45. | |
In a moment we'll hear from the former President | :01:46. | :01:47. | |
of the European Commission, Jose Manuel Barroso, | :01:48. | :01:50. | |
but first, just how bad might this backdrop prove | :01:51. | :01:52. | |
We sought the views of three prominent Europe watchers. | :01:53. | :02:05. | |
This is the next system shall crisis of the whole European project, | :02:06. | :02:15. | |
probably the largest crisis in the history of European integration. I | :02:16. | :02:19. | |
think you could think of it as potentially a perfect storm. The | :02:20. | :02:23. | |
migration crisis, that's a very big one. The summer will bring a huge | :02:24. | :02:32. | |
peak of refugees trying to cross the Mediterranean. There will be huge | :02:33. | :02:37. | |
pressure on the refugee system. You have the prospect of Brexit, you | :02:38. | :02:44. | |
have Russia and Ukraine, you have the growing strength of Eurosceptic | :02:45. | :02:48. | |
often xenophobic parties of left and right. At the same time in July this | :02:49. | :02:54. | |
year, Greece has got to repay the European Central Bank 3.5 billion | :02:55. | :03:00. | |
euros, it is not clear how Greece will do that. Many of these crises | :03:01. | :03:05. | |
reinforce each other, so the chances of Brexit are reinforced both by the | :03:06. | :03:10. | |
bad performances of the eurozone and the refugee crisis. Putin bombing | :03:11. | :03:16. | |
Syria increases the chances of another refugee crisis, which would | :03:17. | :03:20. | |
destabilise the European Union and divert attention from Ukraine, as he | :03:21. | :03:26. | |
well knows. Each reinforces the other. This is a pretty critical | :03:27. | :03:31. | |
time in geopolitical terms because the US has been accused and is seen | :03:32. | :03:37. | |
as not having shown sufficient leadership in the last few years. | :03:38. | :03:43. | |
You are going now into an election. You have Russia resurgent and very | :03:44. | :03:49. | |
assertive on the other hand, so the role that Europe should be playing | :03:50. | :03:54. | |
is simply not there right now. Even in the core countries of the | :03:55. | :03:57. | |
European Union, even in Germany and France, the reaction that we must | :03:58. | :04:04. | |
say yes whatever it costs is not as strong as it used to be. Europe is | :04:05. | :04:10. | |
being weakened because of its lack of unity at a time when European | :04:11. | :04:16. | |
unity and European leadership is most needed. It takes away from | :04:17. | :04:22. | |
European Union the one great strength it has got which is | :04:23. | :04:27. | |
standing together, offering a credible voice to a belligerent | :04:28. | :04:35. | |
Russia or a troubled Middle East, or uncertain capital markets, one | :04:36. | :04:40. | |
voice. But if Britain votes to leave or votes to stay but with a large | :04:41. | :04:44. | |
percentage wanting to leave, it puts a crack in the credibility of the | :04:45. | :04:49. | |
European Union. A pretty bleak picture for the Prime Minister. | :04:50. | :04:51. | |
Earlier I spoke to the former President of the European | :04:52. | :04:54. | |
I asked him how impressed he was so far by David Cameron's management of | :04:55. | :05:05. | |
the campaign to stay in the EU. I think so far Prime Minister Cameron | :05:06. | :05:11. | |
has done the right thing. He has got to fight for his position. He knows | :05:12. | :05:16. | |
it is a very difficult issue in the European Union and he tried to get a | :05:17. | :05:22. | |
consensus of all the member states so I think the issue is now well | :05:23. | :05:27. | |
prepared and I hope there will be an agreement during the European | :05:28. | :05:33. | |
summit. How optimistic are you? How realistic is full consensus on the | :05:34. | :05:38. | |
brake off in work benefits for migrant workers? From what I know | :05:39. | :05:43. | |
from European Union countries, they are all willing Britain to remain in | :05:44. | :05:49. | |
the European Union. This issue of benefits and freedom of movement is | :05:50. | :05:54. | |
very sensible for some of the countries of European union. We have | :05:55. | :05:59. | |
got to understand that, but in the end everybody wants Britain remain. | :06:00. | :06:04. | |
I think compromise is on the table, it is creative, it is always these | :06:05. | :06:11. | |
legal compromises are difficult to build but it is a creative and | :06:12. | :06:16. | |
intelligent one, so I hope at the end there will be a consensus | :06:17. | :06:24. | |
because the main issue is how to express a position that will enable | :06:25. | :06:28. | |
Prime Minister Cameron to go to the British people and say we have a | :06:29. | :06:33. | |
good deal. If the issue was about benefits, and the abuse of social | :06:34. | :06:39. | |
benefits, because it is true different countries have different | :06:40. | :06:44. | |
levels of social benefits, I think this can work as a compromise. | :06:45. | :06:49. | |
Acceptable to fellow leaders. Do you honestly believe it will have the | :06:50. | :06:52. | |
slightest bearing upon the ambitions of Polish, or French workers to | :06:53. | :07:01. | |
come? Do you think it would put anybody off exercising their freedom | :07:02. | :07:06. | |
of movement? Of course the other countries can do the same, it is not | :07:07. | :07:14. | |
only for Britain. The idea is also that it can also exist for the | :07:15. | :07:19. | |
others, so in terms of the general principle of fairness, I think we | :07:20. | :07:23. | |
can defend it. Do you think it would put off anybody from coming here to | :07:24. | :07:29. | |
work? No, frankly not. It depends on the conditions of the Labour market. | :07:30. | :07:37. | |
It depends what will happen in the future. We have seen different | :07:38. | :07:41. | |
situations. There are many British people living outside, but I think | :07:42. | :07:49. | |
people that want to go to Britain, if of course the basic rights of the | :07:50. | :07:54. | |
people are insured, they will be willing to go. But of course with | :07:55. | :08:03. | |
slightly different conditions. Do you understand David Cameron's, the | :08:04. | :08:07. | |
importance he places on the issue of British sovereignty, the desire he | :08:08. | :08:12. | |
holds to somehow safeguard sovereignty in the context of | :08:13. | :08:15. | |
legislation? Does it make sense to you as a former European leader | :08:16. | :08:23. | |
yourself? Former European and national leader so I understand the | :08:24. | :08:28. | |
issues of sovereignty, I was 12 years in my national governments | :08:29. | :08:33. | |
including as Prime Minister, so we should think it is not only Britain | :08:34. | :08:37. | |
that cares about sovereignty. We all want to have the rights of our | :08:38. | :08:41. | |
country respected. The question is how to do it. Frankly, I believe | :08:42. | :08:49. | |
that in the 21st century, in the age of globalisation, we are better | :08:50. | :08:53. | |
protecting our sovereignty, our de facto power in the world, if you are | :08:54. | :09:01. | |
together. A country of 60 or even 80 million people cannot defend its | :09:02. | :09:04. | |
rights and values in front of countries with 1.3 billion or 1.5 | :09:05. | :09:15. | |
billion as could happen soon in some countries in the world, if we are | :09:16. | :09:20. | |
alone, so we share sovereignty. At the same time I understand that in | :09:21. | :09:26. | |
the British culture, it is not only Prime Minister Cameron, it has been | :09:27. | :09:32. | |
different governments and parties, there is some kind of | :09:33. | :09:35. | |
exceptionalism. The way the British look at Europe is different from the | :09:36. | :09:41. | |
way the French, German or Spanish and Portuguese look at Europe. This | :09:42. | :09:47. | |
is a common project where Britain is one of the most important | :09:48. | :09:51. | |
shareholders, and from Tony Blair with General climate change to | :09:52. | :09:57. | |
Margaret Thatcher for enlargement and the internal market, and David | :09:58. | :10:01. | |
Cameron, Britain has been leading Europe, and I believe that is where | :10:02. | :10:07. | |
Britain should be. There was nothing incremental about Angela Merkel's | :10:08. | :10:11. | |
decision to welcome 1 million people into Germany, and if they become | :10:12. | :10:15. | |
naturalised that is 1 million people who could set out for any other | :10:16. | :10:19. | |
member state a couple of years down the line. That was not a decision | :10:20. | :10:26. | |
based on consensus, do you think she overreached herself? No, she took | :10:27. | :10:31. | |
the decision and she was entitled to do it. Let's imagine for a second | :10:32. | :10:36. | |
that the first message coming from Germany would be the opposite one. | :10:37. | :10:42. | |
How do you react? Germany closing the doors? Then I would be more | :10:43. | :10:47. | |
concerned, if I saw a nationalistic Germany. I think what Angela Merkel | :10:48. | :10:52. | |
has done was extremely important for Germany. Now they are trying to | :10:53. | :10:59. | |
adapt and they will do it. But you understand why many British voters | :11:00. | :11:04. | |
worry about the arrival in Germany and EU citizenship making them | :11:05. | :11:08. | |
possible arrivals here imminently? It is a huge issue. No, but I | :11:09. | :11:16. | |
understand the point and it has been exaggerated to some extent. It | :11:17. | :11:21. | |
hasn't been exaggerated, there are 1 million people. It does not mean | :11:22. | :11:26. | |
citizenship. What would the European Union looked like without Britain in | :11:27. | :11:33. | |
it? It can happen, I hope it will not because it will be weaker. The | :11:34. | :11:38. | |
United Kingdom is one of the most important countries in the world, | :11:39. | :11:45. | |
but everyone from Berlin to Warsaw and Madrid understands it to be | :11:46. | :11:50. | |
negative. Jose Manuel Barroso, many thanks. How much of our privacy | :11:51. | :11:54. | |
should we be prepared to surrender to agencies | :11:55. | :12:14. | |
charged with protecting us? Benjamin Franklin was addressing it | :12:15. | :12:20. | |
directly in the 18th Century. Today, though, Parliament's | :12:21. | :12:23. | |
Intelligence and Security Committee reported that Home Secretary | :12:24. | :12:25. | |
Theresa May's draft Investigatory Powers Bill does not | :12:26. | :12:27. | |
do enough to protect the privacy of ordinary citizens or address | :12:28. | :12:29. | |
concerns about spying raised by Edward Snowden's | :12:30. | :12:32. | |
recent revelations. Setting and nets to catch the guilty | :12:33. | :12:36. | |
often snares the innocent too. In this hit TV show, the police tap the | :12:37. | :12:41. | |
calls made from phone boxes, lots of data gathered, most of it useless, | :12:42. | :12:46. | |
but with the technology that existed at that time, there was an absolute | :12:47. | :12:50. | |
limit to how many targets the police could track. The ability of security | :12:51. | :12:59. | |
agencies like MI5 to eavesdrop on people is now infinitely greater | :13:00. | :13:03. | |
than putting a few devices in phone boxes. We are now most people | :13:04. | :13:09. | |
spewing out vast amounts of electronic data without even knowing | :13:10. | :13:13. | |
it, on large numbers of databases and registers, so how can the | :13:14. | :13:18. | |
agencies keep people safe without turning us into some sort of | :13:19. | :13:22. | |
surveillance data? That is the problem parliament is wrestling | :13:23. | :13:26. | |
with. In November the Government set out what it thinks is going on here | :13:27. | :13:31. | |
and at other agencies as well as the police should be regulated. The | :13:32. | :13:40. | |
legislation we are proposing is unprecedented, it will provide | :13:41. | :13:43. | |
transparency about our investigatory Powers, it will provide the | :13:44. | :13:46. | |
strongest safeguards and world leading oversight arrangements. | :13:47. | :13:52. | |
Today the Parliamentary committee gave its verdict, broadly supportive | :13:53. | :13:56. | |
but with some important criticisms. The committee says the draft bill | :13:57. | :14:00. | |
seems unclear on what it is trying to do. It has, says the committee, | :14:01. | :14:05. | |
perhaps suffered from a lack of sufficient time and preparation. The | :14:06. | :14:10. | |
committee says the report doesn't go far enough in protecting privacy, | :14:11. | :14:14. | |
which it says should form the backbone of the draft legislation | :14:15. | :14:19. | |
around which the exceptional powers are built, whilst recent terrorist | :14:20. | :14:23. | |
attacks, it goes on, have shown the importance of the work the agencies | :14:24. | :14:33. | |
do in protecting us, this cannot be used as an excuse to ignore | :14:34. | :14:34. | |
underlying principles. It is to reconcile privacy with | :14:35. | :14:43. | |
national security. We hoped there would be a general statement about | :14:44. | :14:46. | |
privacy and a demonstration as to how that that might be properly | :14:47. | :14:51. | |
intrude into and how the authorisation process would work in | :14:52. | :14:56. | |
each of the activities of agencies. Instead there are different types of | :14:57. | :15:02. | |
protections and authorisations needed for different categories of | :15:03. | :15:06. | |
information. But in some cases the same information can be gathered in | :15:07. | :15:10. | |
different ways. Sometimes I needs authorises, sometimes not. The | :15:11. | :15:16. | |
commission questioned the power for what you or I would call hacking. | :15:17. | :15:21. | |
There are two types - targeted and bulk. But the definition of targeted | :15:22. | :15:27. | |
is so wide that the committee said bulk powers are not needed. That | :15:28. | :15:32. | |
means everybody and targeted powers could mean everybody. Without | :15:33. | :15:37. | |
clarity, how can we feel safe if we are going about our day-to-day | :15:38. | :15:41. | |
business and not involved any criminal activity that we can be | :15:42. | :15:46. | |
left alone to live to be a good citizen? You swear that the | :15:47. | :15:57. | |
affidavit is true. In The Wire the cops get a judge to sign off the | :15:58. | :16:03. | |
wire taps, but with security and intelligence work is not that | :16:04. | :16:06. | |
straight forward. So much has to remain secret. Even from our elected | :16:07. | :16:11. | |
representatives. It is official. You're up. | :16:12. | :16:19. | |
It may feel as though we've already gorged on hyperbole, | :16:20. | :16:23. | |
shock tactics and unprecedented challenges to the political status | :16:24. | :16:26. | |
quo, but the story of November's American presidential | :16:27. | :16:29. | |
Just the second page will be turned later tonight when the ballot closes | :16:30. | :16:33. | |
in the New Hampshire Primary and self-styled mavericks | :16:34. | :16:35. | |
Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders discover whether they've translated | :16:36. | :16:37. | |
impressive poll leads into votes that could take them closer | :16:38. | :16:43. | |
to becoming, respectively, the Republican and Democrat | :16:44. | :16:45. | |
Emily's live in Manchester, New Hampshire, reading the runes. | :16:46. | :16:54. | |
Good evening from New Hampshire, where they have reported record | :16:55. | :16:56. | |
turnout for this first US presidential primary. | :16:57. | :16:59. | |
More than half a million people are expected to vote today - | :17:00. | :17:03. | |
many beating a path through heavy snow to do so. | :17:04. | :17:07. | |
This is a famously late deciding state - | :17:08. | :17:11. | |
a third of Republican voters still trying to decide. | :17:12. | :17:17. | |
And it's a state which lives by its own motto - | :17:18. | :17:20. | |
They like to surprise people here - none more so than pollsters. | :17:21. | :17:26. | |
All of which adds last minute volatility to a wild campaign. | :17:27. | :17:31. | |
This is the state where Barack Obama seemed a safe bet in 2008 - | :17:32. | :17:35. | |
until Hillary went from ten points behind to beating him. | :17:36. | :17:40. | |
This is the race that landed John Maccain a landslide victory | :17:41. | :17:44. | |
in 2000, but he lost the nomination to George Bush. | :17:45. | :17:49. | |
This state is overwhemlingly white and overwhelmingly secular - | :17:50. | :17:53. | |
for that reason it doesn't represent the constituecies that make up | :17:54. | :18:02. | |
the Democrats or Republicans as a whole. | :18:03. | :18:04. | |
But here's an early snapshot of polling day so far. | :18:05. | :18:06. | |
They take their role seriously here in New Hampshire. | :18:07. | :18:09. | |
As early indicators of the electoral race, and they start | :18:10. | :18:11. | |
Catherine has come here to vote, but she still doesn't know who for. | :18:12. | :18:17. | |
I guess we'll figure out once we get into the booth where my pencil | :18:18. | :18:20. | |
It's the Catherines of New Hampshire that make this | :18:21. | :18:25. | |
30% of likely Republican voters say they go to the polls | :18:26. | :18:32. | |
But some tell me their decision has been easy. | :18:33. | :18:35. | |
I want to bring the United States back to where it used to be | :18:36. | :18:39. | |
We found the man himself almost by accident when he walked | :18:40. | :18:43. | |
into a diner this morning and my cameraman threw | :18:44. | :18:45. | |
Are you done with being in second place? | :18:46. | :18:48. | |
Trump has led here in New Hampshire in the last 75 polls, | :18:49. | :18:59. | |
it would be astonishing - in polling terms - | :19:00. | :19:01. | |
But this is a state that thrives on surprise. | :19:02. | :19:04. | |
Famously independent-minded, new voters can | :19:05. | :19:05. | |
Those unregistered with either party can still vote for them today. | :19:06. | :19:10. | |
On the Democratic side, momentum may be | :19:11. | :19:13. | |
with Bernie Sanders, but all those we found | :19:14. | :19:15. | |
And was that an easy choice for you? | :19:16. | :19:20. | |
I think she is going to do the best in a general election | :19:21. | :19:26. | |
Throughout the day more than half a million people | :19:27. | :19:31. | |
But if there's one thing you need to know about the result tonight | :19:32. | :19:36. | |
it's this - the polls got Iowa wrong, historically they get | :19:37. | :19:39. | |
New Hampshire wrong too and indeed the two new ones that emerged | :19:40. | :19:42. | |
If you're waiting for a result that makes any sort of sense, | :19:43. | :19:47. | |
We get the results about 9 o'clock tonight. But let's unpick the race | :19:48. | :20:03. | |
with Caitlin Collins. She has been following the Trump campaign. You | :20:04. | :20:07. | |
were last night at the event behind us and it was an extraordinary sort | :20:08. | :20:14. | |
of thing. Yes if there is one thing about New Hampshire, they love | :20:15. | :20:19. | |
Donald Trump. He held a rally here and although it was snowing like | :20:20. | :20:24. | |
crazy, 5,000 people came to see Donald Trump. Was loud and insane | :20:25. | :20:29. | |
and it is obvious they love Donald Trump. What is it about this place | :20:30. | :20:35. | |
or him? They like how outspoken he is and refreshing and they have had | :20:36. | :20:39. | |
eight years of same thing and they're ready for a change and | :20:40. | :20:43. | |
candidates like Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders have done so well | :20:44. | :20:46. | |
here. There was expectation on him ahead of Iowa, do you think it might | :20:47. | :20:51. | |
be over hyped here? I don't think so, because innist wo, it was | :20:52. | :20:59. | |
tougher for Donald Trump to win, it is a state of conservatives and a | :21:00. | :21:05. | |
lot of his supporters are not registered with the Republican Party | :21:06. | :21:08. | |
or don't decide until the last minute. He needs those voters. It | :21:09. | :21:14. | |
makes him easier to win here. When you hear record turn out, do you | :21:15. | :21:19. | |
think that will favour people like Trump and Sanders, the less | :21:20. | :21:23. | |
conventional candidates? Yes, these are people who have never voted | :21:24. | :21:28. | |
before and every where you turn you find a Donald Trump supporters, a | :21:29. | :21:34. | |
way tress told me she voted for him. Everyone loves Donald Trump. I think | :21:35. | :21:38. | |
he is going to sweep the state. You're suggesting that he will | :21:39. | :21:43. | |
eventually be the nominee? Without a doubt. He has a good chance. If he | :21:44. | :21:48. | |
wins New Hampshire, he will take the south, because they love him there. | :21:49. | :21:53. | |
We have two guys from Florida and in Florida, Trump is polling so well | :21:54. | :22:00. | |
and beating them. One of the guys is Marco Rubio, who seemed to be on a | :22:01. | :22:03. | |
high before the debate on Saturday, when he got as it were verbally | :22:04. | :22:13. | |
knifed by Chris Christie. We have no idea of third or fourth place. Now, | :22:14. | :22:18. | |
what Trump should be worried about is who he will be his opponent in | :22:19. | :22:25. | |
the Republican Party. It could be Rubio or Cruz or Carson. You don't | :22:26. | :22:31. | |
dmoe. -- know. People need to see who is going to be in second. Thank | :22:32. | :22:36. | |
you. They say that New Hampshire doesn't always get the whippers | :22:37. | :22:41. | |
right, but it tends to get out the losers. That is still not clear, the | :22:42. | :22:47. | |
list of Republican candidates is very long and we don't have a clue | :22:48. | :22:51. | |
where second and third and fourth will take us. On the democratic side | :22:52. | :22:55. | |
there are two candidates, but that win could be just as complicated | :22:56. | :22:59. | |
going forward. Back to you. Thank you. | :23:00. | :23:02. | |
This seems to be the credo of developers determined | :23:03. | :23:10. | |
But what of the 'starchitects' and foreign billionaires behind | :23:11. | :23:13. | |
many of the mooted 250-odd tower blocks - | :23:14. | :23:15. | |
each with 20 or more storeys - set to rise | :23:16. | :23:17. | |
in the nation's capital in the next few years. | :23:18. | :23:20. | |
Are they compelling proof of a thriving economy, | :23:21. | :23:22. | |
or bankrolling sky-high vanity projects set | :23:23. | :23:25. | |
to become follies of the future while permanently polluting a vista | :23:26. | :23:28. | |
once dominated, even defined, by the dome | :23:29. | :23:30. | |
of Sir Christopher Wren's St Paul's. | :23:31. | :23:34. | |
Or, to borrow Prince Charles's description of another London | :23:35. | :23:38. | |
development, so many monstrous carbuncles? | :23:39. | :23:43. | |
Speaking of which, here's Stephen Smith. | :23:44. | :23:56. | |
Are we looking at the bright new face of nation's thriving capital? | :23:57. | :24:04. | |
Are could this be the uncle of all carbuncles? We have taken data of | :24:05. | :24:11. | |
more than 250 new high rises, either under construction or awaiting | :24:12. | :24:15. | |
approval, to reveal how some of London's best known and most | :24:16. | :24:22. | |
expensive views could change. If you're going to change the skyline, | :24:23. | :24:25. | |
you have to consider what the buildings are for. It is not enough | :24:26. | :24:31. | |
simply to have maximum construction activity and we are not making land. | :24:32. | :24:35. | |
London doesn't have enough land for homes. It would be fine if you're | :24:36. | :24:39. | |
building office towers that people will work in and boost the economy. | :24:40. | :24:47. | |
I take exception them building safety deposit boxes for rich | :24:48. | :24:50. | |
Russians and China to stash their cash. Up here on the cable car it is | :24:51. | :25:02. | |
positively alpine. The air is fresh and him pied. You can almost smell | :25:03. | :25:09. | |
the flowers. But what about the visual environment. How will it look | :25:10. | :25:14. | |
on the old industrial units in a few years if the go ahead is given for | :25:15. | :25:21. | |
all the planned skyscrapers developers want to build? Greenwich | :25:22. | :25:27. | |
is practically the home of time and time is money to developers keen on | :25:28. | :25:35. | |
a slice of it. Barbara Vice is part of a resistance movement. Much as | :25:36. | :25:39. | |
people think that these towers deliver housing and contribute to | :25:40. | :25:44. | |
making the housing shortage less severe, in fact they're only flats | :25:45. | :25:51. | |
for the very wealthy 1% and the average Londoner will never be in a | :25:52. | :25:55. | |
position to be able to afford to buy or rent in them. So we are | :25:56. | :26:01. | |
sacrificing our skyline and some of our best monuments and views, views | :26:02. | :26:06. | |
from parks, from conservation areas, for a result that does not benefit | :26:07. | :26:16. | |
London as a whole. No, it is not Newsnight's range of gifts for | :26:17. | :26:20. | |
Valentine's Day, but an ID parade of London's tallest towers. They have | :26:21. | :26:27. | |
their admirers. Well designed tower blocks are wonderful, I love them. I | :26:28. | :26:36. | |
love The Shard and the Gherkin and I think the 11 Hall building is one of | :26:37. | :26:41. | |
my favourites. I have come back from New York where there are some | :26:42. | :26:47. | |
spectacular tall buildings that enhance the skyline. We have to look | :26:48. | :26:50. | |
at the quality of the architecture and look at the location and also | :26:51. | :26:54. | |
how they hit the ground is important. The new blocks going up | :26:55. | :27:01. | |
in London right now light up the path of the Thames, spelling out a | :27:02. | :27:06. | |
welcome to foreign investment - for better or worse. This maybe be the | :27:07. | :27:13. | |
first unburstable housing bubble. Think of it this way if you live in | :27:14. | :27:20. | |
Russia and you're rich and you could wake up tomorrow and finds yourself | :27:21. | :27:25. | |
in prison. In Hong Kong it could be re-nationalised. To have half of | :27:26. | :27:30. | |
your capital secure in London or New York is a good deal. The more | :27:31. | :27:33. | |
expensive the better the investment opportunity and the more like old | :27:34. | :27:38. | |
bricks it becomes and hence these flats are people are leaving empty | :27:39. | :27:43. | |
or buying an an investment for buy-to-let. It is a commodity and no | :27:44. | :27:48. | |
longer linked with supply and demand. On a clear day, you can see | :27:49. | :27:55. | |
the work on London's high rises going like gang busters. But as to | :27:56. | :28:01. | |
exactly what it all means, and writ might ends, must of us gaze through | :28:02. | :28:04. | |
a bubble darkly. I'm joined now by the architect | :28:05. | :28:07. | |
Eric Parry, who has designed 1 Undershaft, what is set | :28:08. | :28:10. | |
to be the tallest buiding And Simon Jenkins, the former | :28:11. | :28:12. | |
chairman of the National Trust. Why do they have to be so big? In | :28:13. | :28:31. | |
the city of London it is obviously a response to a demand and to a | :28:32. | :28:40. | |
limited area that can be built on. So naturally, there has been I think | :28:41. | :28:45. | |
it is fair to say over the last 20 years a carefully thought through | :28:46. | :28:50. | |
topography that won't disturb those key views, that it is within what is | :28:51. | :28:56. | |
called the eastern cluster. It is one that has be consulted over and | :28:57. | :29:02. | |
thought through and it is coming towards a conclusion. Because there | :29:03. | :29:09. | |
isn't that much more space. So the critical element is what these | :29:10. | :29:12. | |
buildings give back in that limited territory. This is the city of | :29:13. | :29:17. | |
London, as opposed to Westminster and the other areas. And the key | :29:18. | :29:23. | |
ingredient there is the public realm, in a diminishing set of | :29:24. | :29:30. | |
circumstances. So I think the architects' responsibility in that | :29:31. | :29:34. | |
particular circumstance is to make great public space. As an urbanist, | :29:35. | :29:39. | |
that is what I feel, the buildings that rise out of that have to be as | :29:40. | :29:41. | |
good as they possibly can be. We can see some of your projections | :29:42. | :29:56. | |
for the next project. You paint a professional and responsible | :29:57. | :29:59. | |
picture, there must be some bragging rights involved. You must, when you | :30:00. | :30:04. | |
get together, boast about who has got the biggest building. There is | :30:05. | :30:11. | |
maybe a frisson of interest but it is much more the composition of the | :30:12. | :30:16. | |
whole, and I'm keen, given the density of the cluster, that this | :30:17. | :30:21. | |
and other buildings are able to be identified within that grouping. I | :30:22. | :30:26. | |
think they are buildings that identified within that grouping. I | :30:27. | :30:31. | |
speak for the civic rather than simply for the developer or the | :30:32. | :30:36. | |
individual. Simon Jenkins, do these buildings speak for the Civic for | :30:37. | :30:45. | |
you? No, they don't. Why not? The city cluster is no longer a policy | :30:46. | :30:49. | |
because they are building them everywhere. The important thing is | :30:50. | :30:56. | |
that it is just anarchy at the moment. There are 250 towers going | :30:57. | :31:05. | |
up... Not all in the Square Mile. No, but most of them are empty | :31:06. | :31:09. | |
residential, there is no planning concept at all. Nobody says we want | :31:10. | :31:20. | |
this sort of high building, there is no concept of the civic space around | :31:21. | :31:25. | |
them, they are just being crammed in as dense as they can possibly make | :31:26. | :31:32. | |
it to make money, for people most of whom don't live here. Would you be | :31:33. | :31:37. | |
comfortable with the scale of the development if people were moving | :31:38. | :31:42. | |
into them? If people living here already were moving in? There is no | :31:43. | :31:49. | |
need to build high. The Paddington shard, one of the most absurd vanity | :31:50. | :31:53. | |
projects of all time which Boris Johnson wanted, it had 330 flats in | :31:54. | :32:04. | |
it. You would get more flat in a ten story terraced house than that | :32:05. | :32:08. | |
tower, it was a total vanity project. I see with reference to | :32:09. | :32:13. | |
residential projects the wisdom of what you are saying, but you are | :32:14. | :32:18. | |
comfortable then with the 1 Undershaft? Their resistance of how | :32:19. | :32:25. | |
big do you want to go. How big do you want to go, Eric? I object to | :32:26. | :32:33. | |
the accusation that architects want to build as high as they can, that | :32:34. | :32:39. | |
is nonsense. We are between a planning system and the developers' | :32:40. | :32:44. | |
will, and it is important we take that role responsibly. Bigger isn't | :32:45. | :32:50. | |
best, it is dependent entirely where the development occurs. Are there | :32:51. | :32:56. | |
any in London you don't think should have been built? Yes, particularly a | :32:57. | :33:03. | |
number of the gated residential towers that don't know what they are | :33:04. | :33:08. | |
doing when they get to the ground, I therefore concur completely that | :33:09. | :33:11. | |
what we should be doing is building in this European city in a sense | :33:12. | :33:18. | |
street and lower rise buildings for residential use that create | :33:19. | :33:23. | |
interiors and amenities. I think there is a place for high-rise, but | :33:24. | :33:28. | |
there is also a need to plan better what happens on the ground. I should | :33:29. | :33:36. | |
ask you in the interest of balance whether you like any skyscrapers? I | :33:37. | :33:45. | |
like the Shard, but I would like to see it in the cluster. The policy | :33:46. | :33:57. | |
was a good one, broken by one government minister. You break the | :33:58. | :34:00. | |
rule once, you have broken the rules. The Shard was going to be a | :34:01. | :34:09. | |
one-off, there is now a second one. Each one of them wants to be bigger. | :34:10. | :34:14. | |
You have got to have a bigger one in the city, at Canary Wharf. You might | :34:15. | :34:25. | |
not agree, but they generate kudos from the size of their skyscraper. I | :34:26. | :34:31. | |
think that is a reality but there are equal and opposite forces in | :34:32. | :34:35. | |
this business. What I do think is the Shard is an interesting example. | :34:36. | :34:43. | |
When I think of great city skyline is like Lubeck for instance, they | :34:44. | :34:52. | |
speak of tall buildings in that gritty juxtaposition that lends | :34:53. | :34:58. | |
itself, it creates a historic moment. I think that's where we are | :34:59. | :35:06. | |
here. The Shard is an odd one. The Lubeck is nothing to do with these | :35:07. | :35:13. | |
colossal... We are going to have to continue this after the programme, I | :35:14. | :35:17. | |
look forward to it. Thank you very much indeed. | :35:18. | :35:19. | |
The row over the lack of nominations for actors and directors of colour | :35:20. | :35:22. | |
in this year's Oscars has sounded loudly on both sides | :35:23. | :35:25. | |
The ceremony on February 28th is being boycotted by actors such | :35:26. | :35:28. | |
The night before, the leading British actor Adrian Lester | :35:29. | :35:31. | |
will have taken his final bow in a production of Red Velvet | :35:32. | :35:34. | |
The play, written by the actress and writer Lolita Chakrabarti, | :35:35. | :35:38. | |
imagines the life of Ira Aldridge, the black American actor who rose | :35:39. | :35:40. | |
to fame all over Europe in the early 1830s, | :35:41. | :35:43. | |
but whose story has all but been forgotten. | :35:44. | :35:49. | |
Kirsty Wark spoke to the writer and to Kenneth Branagh, | :35:50. | :36:00. | |
in whose season at the Garrick Red Velvet is playing. | :36:01. | :36:02. | |
How did you actually find Ira Aldridge? | :36:03. | :36:04. | |
It was 1998 and Adrian Lester had done reading about him at a theatre | :36:05. | :36:07. | |
festival in Brighton, and he came back and told me a few | :36:08. | :36:10. | |
facts about Ira Aldridge and I couldn't believe I haven't | :36:11. | :36:12. | |
Once you actually researched him, what kind of character did | :36:13. | :36:18. | |
He's a construct of my own imagination really, | :36:19. | :36:24. | |
so I've taken all the facts I have found out about him over the years | :36:25. | :36:28. | |
and there are diary entries and reviews and information | :36:29. | :36:30. | |
about him, and I've infused him with my own experience as an actor. | :36:31. | :36:33. | |
Why did you want to involve it in your season? | :36:34. | :36:37. | |
We've got two or three plays in this season as well as the Shakespeare | :36:38. | :36:40. | |
plays themselves, which comment often on the theatre as a kind | :36:41. | :36:44. | |
of metaphor for human existence that's very illuminating. | :36:45. | :36:48. | |
Mostly it's because I felt the writing itself was multilayered | :36:49. | :36:51. | |
and very strong, the production is excellent, and at the centre | :36:52. | :36:54. | |
of it is a really remarkable performance by Adrian Lester as Ira. | :36:55. | :36:58. | |
You have talked about it being not about race but about being different | :36:59. | :37:15. | |
I think the central thing about being the outsider is prejudice. | :37:16. | :37:19. | |
There are lots of characters throughout it. | :37:20. | :37:23. | |
You've got the black actor in the white acting society, | :37:24. | :37:31. | |
into a male-dominated career when her country is being denied. | :37:32. | :37:34. | |
You've got a French gay theatre manager. | :37:35. | :37:37. | |
The plays that are going to be written, presumably, | :37:38. | :37:39. | |
over the next 20, 30 years are going to be about Syrians coming | :37:40. | :37:43. | |
here, going to be about Somalians coming here, | :37:44. | :37:46. | |
Do you think we're going to become more receptive to their story? | :37:47. | :37:51. | |
Gosh, you know, doing the research for Red Velvet, | :37:52. | :37:53. | |
I thought it's just the same old stuff recycled again. | :37:54. | :37:59. | |
It used to be blacks and moors, then it was the Asians, | :38:00. | :38:03. | |
then the Irish, then it turns into eastern Europeans. | :38:04. | :38:06. | |
It's the same argument that's had about immigration again and again. | :38:07. | :38:09. | |
The audience for Red Velvet are on the edge of their seats | :38:10. | :38:11. | |
as if this thing was unfolding in the streets of London right now, | :38:12. | :38:15. | |
and given in a way how little has changed, frankly it could be. | :38:16. | :38:20. | |
It's also the most diverse audience I have ever sat in. | :38:21. | :38:24. | |
But by and large audiences in London in the West End are white | :38:25. | :38:27. | |
For what it's worth, I'd throw a few statistics your way. | :38:28. | :38:32. | |
We have this ticket lottery for the first couple of rows, | :38:33. | :38:34. | |
the tickets are 15 quid, it goes on sale at midnight, | :38:35. | :38:37. | |
30,000 people have joined up for that. | :38:38. | :38:46. | |
40% of them got into it through social media, | :38:47. | :38:49. | |
which tends to be a younger demographic, a more diverse | :38:50. | :38:51. | |
demographic, and in terms of cinema screenings, | :38:52. | :38:58. | |
which are a fairly new phenomena, our Winter's Tale has now been seen | :38:59. | :39:01. | |
I think it's also about diverse voices really. | :39:02. | :39:04. | |
That's why the audience for Red Velvet is so diverse, | :39:05. | :39:07. | |
because it's a story for all of us about British history | :39:08. | :39:09. | |
A man that all this time had founded his good fortunes | :39:10. | :39:13. | |
on your love, shared dangers with you! | :39:14. | :39:17. | |
I grew up on a staple of period drama on TV and film, | :39:18. | :39:21. | |
as we all did, and there was never anyone of colour in any of them, | :39:22. | :39:26. | |
But when I was researching Red Velvet, there were so much | :39:27. | :39:33. | |
Now I look at it and I think of course there was, | :39:34. | :39:38. | |
we were the centre of international trading. | :39:39. | :39:40. | |
I found a huge diverse culture within London in my research, | :39:41. | :39:43. | |
but I did history O-level, history A-level, and I never see it | :39:44. | :39:46. | |
on TV and film and I think that's where the problem is because Ira | :39:47. | :39:49. | |
was written out of history, for whatever reason. | :39:50. | :39:52. | |
Actually we need to look back at history. | :39:53. | :39:56. | |
So I think it's a wider discussion of how we portray | :39:57. | :39:59. | |
Can we just talk a little bit about the Oscars. | :40:00. | :40:03. | |
I think the issue about the Oscars is not so much about prizes in art, | :40:04. | :40:10. | |
which are always prone to subjectivity and opinion | :40:11. | :40:15. | |
and contention, and I think really it's about inclusion and equal | :40:16. | :40:21. | |
opportunity at the grass-roots level, to be for consideration. | :40:22. | :40:29. | |
I think that that's what this issue is really about. | :40:30. | :40:37. | |
This debate, this very noisy debate right now, | :40:38. | :40:39. | |
Because the desire of the Academy is to double the representation | :40:40. | :40:44. | |
of women and ethnic minorities by 2020. | :40:45. | :40:46. | |
If the Oscars are the pinnacle, allegedly, of film achievement - | :40:47. | :40:55. | |
as you say, it's very subjective who gets a prize - | :40:56. | :40:58. | |
but it has to reflect the whole of society that it's serving | :40:59. | :41:04. | |
and that's what art and culture is about, about | :41:05. | :41:06. | |
So, when it comes to the Oscars and Clint Eastwood is telling | :41:07. | :41:10. | |
everyone to stop whining, what do you say to Clint Eastwood? | :41:11. | :41:16. | |
Come see Red Velvet, it is on right now. | :41:17. | :41:22. | |
You might want to make a film about it and hope that people jump | :41:23. | :41:25. | |
We leave you in Guangzhou City in China, where they've been | :41:26. | :41:36. | |
celebrating the Chinese Spring Festival in the traditional style | :41:37. | :41:38. | |
Happy Chinese new year to them and to you. | :41:39. | :41:41. | |
It is a fairly chilly wintry prospect for the next few days, a | :41:42. | :42:31. | |
cold start of the day. A few showers around, particularly across southern | :42:32. | :42:35. | |
and eastern areas initially. Many other | :42:36. | :42:36. |